sam hawkz we outplayed the seahawks offensively & defensively, they couldn't stop lamar in the 2nd half & they couldn't get anything going against our defense. the only thing you could consider "luck" is DK's fumble
Buff Baron there isn’t anything wrong with either of them but Nick is way more explosive and is the better back in general. Mark is the only bright spot when compared to the Browns weapons but even him dropped I think 4 passes yesterday
@@Kplattjr1 Big Ben shouldn't even be in the league at this point and definitely is not an MVP caliber player. So yeah, not in the same league at all.
Lamar would have been 15/20 at least with 200+ yards if his receivers and tight ends would have caught the ball. He was dropping straight dimes and I’m not even a Ravens fan. But fr his side armed throws are soooooo clean 🤩
Noah Quigley His receivers dropped the ball even though he threw it right in their hands 🤷🏾♂️ I mean he can’t catch them his self and they took a W so what’s your point ? Lol 🤔
Jackson will be fine! he's learning and growing and he's the best out of the draft class. They doubted Jackson so many times he keeps proving people wrong
He dont need to throw for 400 yards while losing games like most these “QBs” to get your elite status. The QB is more then throwing the ball! Lamar is only going to get better, very smart football player. Getting more impressive every start. Took lead of that offense yesterday and overcame a ton
But black people wasnt sayn that about vick, now black bmore fans like that style because thats what they got, they shouldve said that about vick, hipocrites
@@shakirb402 what? Bro idk what you are talking about don't let a certain group of people speak for another group of people don't because it makes u look stupid and it shows ignorance
IDK why there is this fascination with making LJ something that he isn't He ISN'T AN ELITE PASSER. Anyone looking objectively can see that but there are these fans who think if you don't say he's elite then your a hater or a racist. You fans are delusional. You also may want to check if you are the RACISTS. You really believe in your heart of hearts that he could win a game against an elite team with just his arm? That is what QBs who are elite do. Nobody's saying he sucks. He's just not on that level yet. That's ok.
People forget Peyton Manning lost to a second-year quarterback in Russell Wilson in the Super Bowl while in Denver. 💪 And actually Russell Wilson outplayed him in that Super Bowl win and then Peyton played horrible in his second Super Bowl appearance with Denver!💰
@@riccotherich2176 what some people don't realize is that even when Peyton played Chicago in super bowl. Kyle Orton got them there and who did lovie Smith start? Rex Grossman who lost them the game. Peyton didnt play good in that game. He caught them the game against the saints too
I agree with you. How Lamar Jackson impact the game playing quarterback. If you blitzed him and got every one cover on a third a long. Lamar Jackson still can get the first. Lamar Jackson effect on the running game and passing game is apart of the position. Does Lamar Jackson playing quarterback lift his team up to wins.
Stephen A. doesn't like black QBs period. He's always talking about Cam Newton passing not being good when his stats are identical to Andrew Luck who he praises as a great passer.
Lol they act like his passing stats are bad. 11td 5 picks good percentage. He’s elite because he strives in the most important stats Wins. Stephen A hasn’t picked a finals right in literally like 7 years and he’s supposed to be an expert in ball.
DeZ Nutz i dont love that 11 to 5 ratio. A QB isn’t elite just bc he wins. We’ve seen some shitty QBs win with a good defense or good pieces around them. Now I think Lamar’s a really quarterback and JUST BARELY falls short from being an elite QB. He will be if he continues to improve, but an elite QB needs to be more accurate. His WRs drop passes, but once he improves that QB to int ratio & throws consistently for 250+ yards every game then I’ll give it to him.
You should love it and winning is everything first off. Ravens defense is solid but not carrying them Lamar lies. Hard to throw 250 plus when you running over a 100 every game.
Stephen A never watches the games. this is the same dude who said Winston and Haskins were running QBs, talked about looking forward to player matchups between guys that hadnt been on those teams in years etc. at this point, Stephen A is just a caricature of himself, who was already a caricature to begin with.
Shine4TheCam....Snead is a possession wr who makes contested catches because he doesn’t have the speed to separate. He’s good against zone but u can’t say he’s even on Landry’s level n Cleveland as a possession guy. Boykin is still to new an marquis is young an still learning to.
Accuracy huh? So we're giving the receivers a huge slap on the wrists then. ESPECIALLY yesterday. Dropped pass after dropped pass. ACCURATE PASSES being dropped.
@@panuweston5281 to be fair...the rain afected both teams, lamar did slip, but the linebackers chasing him also slipped so you can put partial blame to the rain there and metcaf's fumble was most likely aided by the wet ball too
@@Megalopros yea seattle lost them that game. Seattle was too stubborn and trying to stay in their base defense when they should have tried to match lamar speed with more dbs. Bobby wagner kj Wright couldn't keep an eye on lamar cuz they were like 10 to 15 yards down the field.
@@victormaddox-craft5730 yes it was funny how after the game Pete Carroll was like he was faster than he showed ok tape...huh? What tape were you watching my man? Thinking Wagner and Wright could keep up with him, that's insane.
Put super glue on his teammates gloves to cut back on all the drops. Seriously though he would need a game like he had against the Dolphins but against someone like the Patriots where he throws for 5 TD's before he gets any respect.
@@mrjones422 think about this...they keep talking about the dolphins , yet no one did what he did against the dolphins yet. And also. It sure seems like the dolphins are not trying to tank to me. They just can't win a game to save their soul. I think they should get Teddy B. And I guarantee they will look completely different.
So again like the media always does not going to explain that five passes were dropped yesterday one was a touchdown pass and he threw away a couple of those 20 attempts but he still can’t throw right ... Smh🤦🏾♂️
Don't bother wasting your energy these ppl get paid millions to talk about the games and don't even watch them its futile arguing with them just like it is with any other casual on Twitter that just watched the box scores
Every week I have to say this.... STOP ASKING STEPHEN A SMITH (A DIEHARD STEELERS FAN) QUESTIONS ABOUT LAMAR JACKSON‼️ HE IS GOING TO HATE REGARDLESS‼️
@@getbuckets4252 half a season as a starter does not prove your elite, once there is game plan and they try to nurf you and you keep producing pass the season into the playoffs and the following season then your elite, how many guys have we seen go on runs. Hecks even Goff got the elite title tossed his way
Lamar Jackson destroyed Seahawks elite team Stephan A : Lamar Jackson is not Elite because he didn’t complete more pass Everyone : Andrews drops the ball 3 times. Stephane A : Lamar is not a quarter back let’s see him vs patriots Lamar Jackson wins again Stephan’s A : he’s not going to win a play off game
I’m a browns fan, and this dude a beast. Don’t know how someone can see the way he performed against Seahawks and hate is beyond me. Obviously Stephen A trying get them ratings
This is a New Day & Age, as long as the Team Believes in HIM as a Leader & he stays confident in what he can do to Lead his team to a Victory, He's A Quality/Phenomenal Quarterback! & if he played at a Top 5 College, he would've won multiple Heisman trophies! That's just how Steven A judge's a Quarterback!
The Ravens defense played well yesterday for Earl Thomas at his first game in Seattle. Lamar Jackson's test will come when he plays New England and Brady.
I am a die hard Ravens fans...been since they came into the league...NOW WHAT..WE BEAT THE PATRIOTS.... what does everyone have to say about The Ravens and Lamar..but some RESPECT ON OUR TEAM AND LAMAR
I love the fire and intensity in Lamar. Calling the field goal unit off the field and him running for the touchdown. That was his call. That is how much respect his coaches and teammates have in him. In spite of the absence of Marquise Brown, steady rain and Andrews dropping passes, Lamar put the offense on his shoulders and willed this team to victory. Imagine that in spite of being only 22 years of age! I call that elite.
Am I the only one who's tired of hearing Max bring up how young Lamar is. Im a big Ravens fan but its getting old hearing him mention HES A BABY. HES ONLY 22. Like we get it at this point. Love the lamar support but say bruh give a differenr stat. GO RAVENS
Im tired of seeing all Lamars first take videos saying “he needs to improve on throwing” He is 11-3 as a starter. Stop trying to belittle our wins. It’s pissing Baltimore fans off
Let’s not forget Stephen A’s favorite teams is the Steelers ... he will never be high on the Ravens... he’ll give us some credit but he will never rave about us or Lamar Jackson the way he raves for other players and teams...
I'm just sitting here enjoying that everyone is debating "MVP" and "Elite" for Lamar when 6 months ago most these people had him written off completely. Eat crow.
Lamar takes what the Defence gives him and has proven he can pass. The days of sitting in the pocket are over!! In this new era you have to do both!! If my offensive line don't protect, I'm taking what I see. The goal is to score more points than your opposition. Foh with this old school traditional one dimensional QBs that sit in the pocket that you can barley breath on without a flag thrown. FOH!
I still don't get the argument about what they are trying to say about Lamar Jackson. I mean, what's an elite NFL player that plays the QB position, but he's not an elite QB?? It doesn't make any sense when you put some actual thought into it. There are a lot of average NFL QB that has elite arm strength, that can sit behind the pocket all day, sling it down the field, and they still suck. So their argument is really weak about the elite QB criteria that they are trying to label Lamar Jackson.
@4Respect4Freedom4loyalty who played in more games? Which quarterback carries his team to the superbowl. Impact on the game playing quarterback cam was better.
@4Respect4Freedom4loyalty cam newton did it different. End results was superbowl and mvp. Play in more games. I am speaking facts. You not going against the facts.
@Tennessee Titans how is that simple. A "pocket quarterback " miss more games due to injuries than cam newton. He lead his team to the superbowl. Something cam never did. You can pull up x and o and i can show you results. Again being a "pocket quarterback" dosen't guarantee you success. They have to play cam newton different than Andrew luck. I give you that. But his impact was greater and had more success.
Being a true leader is even important than just being good at throwing a football. Lamar showed that in beating an elite Russell Wilson at his house. Amazing!
He is definitely not an elite passer. He throws wobbling ducks all the time. He rarely drops a true dime. His passes are often behind and high. His scouting report said he had poor mechanics. His numbers have looked good because his running ability has led to a lot of wide open passed to large TE's into the middle of the field. It's easier to catch a duck thrown off target when your not getting lit up or fairly wide open. The drop passes thing is somewhat of a myth or at least "if it hits the hands it should be caught." If you're an elite WR you may catch wobbly passes thrown behind you when running at full speed in the playoffs, but the vast majority of wr's need a spiral on target. The chances that he becomes an elite passer learning in the NFL when he isn't an elite passer now are slim. Can someone name an elite passer in the history of the NFL that started his passing career looking so poorly as Lamar? Name a HOF'er or SB winner that came out of college as an average passer but became an elite passer?
I’m convinced that Stephen A won’t say something positive about Lamar till he wins a Super Bowl
Even then he will say that the defense carried him there
He'll probably congratulate
the defense before he humbles himself and congratulates Lamar
Lamar Jackson has more total yards passing & rushing and more touchdowns than the Bears offense
A nah steven a owns up to teams when he doubts them and they win, but lamar ain’t winnin no sb anytime soon i don’t think
Facts
Lamar beats a playoff team like everyone wanted
First take : well he isn’t elite tho so it doesn’t matter
Compton 187 you are honestly stupid asf
Ravens got lucky this time
sam hawkz we outplayed the seahawks offensively & defensively, they couldn't stop lamar in the 2nd half & they couldn't get anything going against our defense. the only thing you could consider "luck" is DK's fumble
They hate to give credit to this kid bruh kid been playing good all year they still seem to over look it
GO RAVENS
if you don't think he can throw, you're clearly looking at box stats and not the whole game's .. there were so many perfect passes dropped
@Kayden Sperle you want him to run out there and catch it himself
9-20
PatsDynasty - a person who didn't watch the game
Jason Murray nah a person who knows an elite passer doesn’t attempt a measly 20 passes in the nfl on top of only completing 9
PatsDynasty Idc what he’s passing stats or running stats are. As long as they keep bringing home W that’s all that matters.
Just think about this:
Mayfields weapons
-OBJ
-Landry
-Callaway
-Chubb
-Ricky Seal-Jones
Lamars weapons
-Willie Snead
-Seth Roberts
-Miles Boykin
-Mark Ingram
-Mark Andrews
What’s wrong with mark Ingram and mark andrews
Buff Baron don’t compare to two pro bowl receivers one being a generational talent and a great rb
@Dooky clearly you didn't watch the game.
Buff Baron there isn’t anything wrong with either of them but Nick is way more explosive and is the better back in general. Mark is the only bright spot when compared to the Browns weapons but even him dropped I think 4 passes yesterday
I'll take B-More's lineup but I get your point
He had 5 dropped passes. If that was Big Ben you’d be on here defending him until you’re out of breath.
yg.meech679 SAS would be critical of Ben’s receivers. If Lamar’s receives can’t catch? Sas would say “Lamar has got to improve his game”
@@brandonbeauchamp6576 steeler fan that's why
@yg.meech679 facts
He aint even n big bens league
@@Kplattjr1 Big Ben shouldn't even be in the league at this point and definitely is not an MVP caliber player. So yeah, not in the same league at all.
Lamar would have been 15/20 at least with 200+ yards if his receivers and tight ends would have caught the ball. He was dropping straight dimes and I’m not even a Ravens fan. But fr his side armed throws are soooooo clean 🤩
A yeah that need to put sum respect on my boi name!
Plus Andrews dropped 2 tds
The turf monster was in effect, if not, he'd have 225+
Wouldves dont count. Seahawks wouldve won the game if 2 plays didnt happen
Noah Quigley His receivers dropped the ball even though he threw it right in their hands 🤷🏾♂️ I mean he can’t catch them his self and they took a W so what’s your point ? Lol 🤔
Jackson will be fine! he's learning and growing and he's the best out of the draft class. They doubted Jackson so many times he keeps proving people wrong
Maximillion I agree the argument is elite QB not elite Passer that’s the beauty in his game dual threat
He did the same thing at Louisville. This young man is amazing and he is future hall of fame material.
Tha_bayar3a - exactly Man!
Chris Nguyen that does not matter anymore. We beat them too. We are focused on the present not the past
@Chris Nguyen , as a rookie with a mediocre O line. So tell me this, can you outplay him? Or can you play at all?
I don’t like Baltimore but that dime he threw to Boykin while running was an Aaron Rodgers type throw.
Remember that time Aaron Rogers went 9-20....yeah me either
Aria Izadi aaron rodgers and lamar jackson in the same sentence 😂🤢 that should be a sin
Will Jones remember that time Aaron receivers dropped like 8 passes
@Shadow9220 thank you these people don't watch lamar just hate on him.
Was an awesome throw
He dont need to throw for 400 yards while losing games like most these “QBs” to get your elite status. The QB is more then throwing the ball! Lamar is only going to get better, very smart football player. Getting more impressive every start. Took lead of that offense yesterday and overcame a ton
Cj Welch......eggzzactly! U got a lot of qbs pass an present throwing for a million yards an don’t win sh%t
I’d take Lamar any day over Flacco. Flacco’s like the Statue of Liberty out there
Iceberg Slim cough cough Tony Romo
But black people wasnt sayn that about vick, now black bmore fans like that style because thats what they got, they shouldve said that about vick, hipocrites
@@shakirb402 what? Bro idk what you are talking about don't let a certain group of people speak for another group of people don't because it makes u look stupid and it shows ignorance
He clearly thinks criticism makes him some sort of badass.
@Dawson Jake Stephen A
naw homie. sumtime i think they have to have a controversy. then again maybe yur right???🤔
KILLA KANGZ...... eggzzactly! It’s all about ratings views n money. Most of there topics r trash
@@icebergslim3743 yep. pretty much.
IDK why there is this fascination with making LJ something that he isn't
He ISN'T AN ELITE PASSER. Anyone looking objectively can see that but there are these fans who think if you don't say he's elite then your a hater or a racist. You fans are delusional. You also may want to check if you are the RACISTS. You really believe in your heart of hearts that he could win a game against an elite team with just his arm? That is what QBs who are elite do. Nobody's saying he sucks. He's just not on that level yet. That's ok.
Stephen A clearly looked at the box score instead of watching the game.
I swear to god because lamars receivers dropped 6 passes and 2 tds
thats what stat geeks do!!!!
There are people in this world that get paid to do that
Nedim Ali-Mehmet and Stephen claims to know everything about sports yet never looks past the box score so
he doesn't have to be an Elite QB cus he's already an Elite Football player
To be a champ he HAS to be an elite QB bro which i believe he will be soon
So are at least 20 other players on 30 different football rosters
Mike Iniguez nick foles wasn’t an elite qb
FearedRez you don’t have to be an elite QB to win a SB
@@dmv_shoes7058 Neither is Joe Flacco
So we gonna pretend the TE wasn’t dropping great passes?
He's lucky they still won lol
Anonymous Automaton yea props the the defense, Lemar, and Justin tucker, people don’t understand how important the kicker is
He threw a good pass to mark Andrews for a td and he dropped it
@@briantharps2832 drops happen to everyone not just him
Why does everyone need to be Peyton to be elite?
Michael right. He’s getting it done
People forget Peyton Manning lost to a second-year quarterback in Russell Wilson in the Super Bowl while in Denver. 💪
And actually Russell Wilson outplayed him in that Super Bowl win and then Peyton played horrible in his second Super Bowl appearance with Denver!💰
@@riccotherich2176 what some people don't realize is that even when Peyton played Chicago in super bowl. Kyle Orton got them there and who did lovie Smith start? Rex Grossman who lost them the game. Peyton didnt play good in that game. He caught them the game against the saints too
@@riccotherich2176 good point
I agree with you. How Lamar Jackson impact the game playing quarterback.
If you blitzed him and got every one cover on a third a long.
Lamar Jackson still can get the first.
Lamar Jackson effect on the running game and passing game is apart of the position.
Does Lamar Jackson playing quarterback lift his team up to wins.
Stephen A. doesn't like black QBs period. He's always talking about Cam Newton passing not being good when his stats are identical to Andrew Luck who he praises as a great passer.
Deshaun Watson?
He like Watson and Patrick Mahomes
@@eile4219 everybody like mahoms
Peso Edison......the refs really like mahomes
As a black man, he's jest harder on them. He wants professional out of them.
Lol they act like his passing stats are bad. 11td 5 picks good percentage. He’s elite because he strives in the most important stats Wins. Stephen A hasn’t picked a finals right in literally like 7 years and he’s supposed to be an expert in ball.
DeZ Nutz i dont love that 11 to 5 ratio. A QB isn’t elite just bc he wins. We’ve seen some shitty QBs win with a good defense or good pieces around them.
Now I think Lamar’s a really quarterback and JUST BARELY falls short from being an elite QB. He will be if he continues to improve, but an elite QB needs to be more accurate. His WRs drop passes, but once he improves that QB to int ratio & throws consistently for 250+ yards every game then I’ll give it to him.
You should love it and winning is everything first off. Ravens defense is solid but not carrying them Lamar lies. Hard to throw 250 plus when you running over a 100 every game.
He got 2018 right
And this is why Flacco is a ravens legend
DeZ Nutz he needs to be an expert in the hair club for men and pull his hairline to the front.. he’s such a hater
Stephen A clearly didn't watch the game
Stephen A never watches the games. this is the same dude who said Winston and Haskins were running QBs, talked about looking forward to player matchups between guys that hadnt been on those teams in years etc. at this point, Stephen A is just a caricature of himself, who was already a caricature to begin with.
Yeah he’s a jackass
Clearly lol
Jordan Davis Stephen A a hater and I black saying this he always putting players dwn did he play sports cse i never herd much on him
Give him one solid WR and a healthy Hollywood Brown he’ll definitely start putting up big throwing numbers
I think myles boykin has potential. Remember it's just his rookie year. Watch him jump in his 2nd year.
No excuses
He has a solid wr in willie snead
BUSHWICK BILL Ceedee Lamb
Shine4TheCam....Snead is a possession wr who makes contested catches because he doesn’t have the speed to separate. He’s good against zone but u can’t say he’s even on Landry’s level n Cleveland as a possession guy. Boykin is still to new an marquis is young an still learning to.
The Ravens lead the NFL in 3rd and 7+ yards conversion %
Don’t give me the “behind the sticks” bs
Stephen A., you’re wrong, and let me tell you why
Sports 311 as a black man ....
Lol ha haa
Nice! 😂
The patriots didn’t win the super bowl , sas here’s why
Haa!! Gold!
Accuracy huh? So we're giving the receivers a huge slap on the wrists then. ESPECIALLY yesterday. Dropped pass after dropped pass. ACCURATE PASSES being dropped.
not gonna adress the fact that his recievers dropped like 6 of lamar's passes against seattle?
And the rain
@@panuweston5281 to be fair...the rain afected both teams, lamar did slip, but the linebackers chasing him also slipped so you can put partial blame to the rain there and metcaf's fumble was most likely aided by the wet ball too
@@Megalopros yea seattle lost them that game. Seattle was too stubborn and trying to stay in their base defense when they should have tried to match lamar speed with more dbs. Bobby wagner kj Wright couldn't keep an eye on lamar cuz they were like 10 to 15 yards down the field.
@@victormaddox-craft5730 yes it was funny how after the game Pete Carroll was like he was faster than he showed ok tape...huh? What tape were you watching my man? Thinking Wagner and Wright could keep up with him, that's insane.
If Lamar was on the Steelers all you’d here is “this brotha is special” and praise him nonstop..smh
Facts
Breaking records left and right makes you elite period.
Blade Brown, Blocked By URL I think Lamar is elite but not for that reason bcuz Nathan peterman prolly broke some interception records
Right....he's either broke a record or the 1st to do something or , the youngest and fastest to accomplish something.
I legit don’t know what more Lamar can do lol
Put super glue on his teammates gloves to cut back on all the drops.
Seriously though he would need a game like he had against the Dolphins but against someone like the Patriots where he throws for 5 TD's before he gets any respect.
Can always try throwing the perfect game like Rodgers. Except with a bunch of nobodies and a washed up Jimmy Graham
@@mrjones422 think about this...they keep talking about the dolphins , yet no one did what he did against the dolphins yet. And also. It sure seems like the dolphins are not trying to tank to me. They just can't win a game to save their soul. I think they should get Teddy B. And I guarantee they will look completely different.
So by there logic it's cool to lose long as u throw for at least 350 yards a game
This set looks like its from 2009
😂😂🤣🤣
1999
So again like the media always does not going to explain that five passes were dropped yesterday one was a touchdown pass and he threw away a couple of those 20 attempts but he still can’t throw right ... Smh🤦🏾♂️
StephonDDon_YT SAS is his biggest hater, skip and Shannon always show him love
Don't bother wasting your energy these ppl get paid millions to talk about the games and don't even watch them its futile arguing with them just like it is with any other casual on Twitter that just watched the box scores
7 dropped passes by receivers against Seattle and they act like he can’t throw
Every week I have to say this.... STOP ASKING STEPHEN A SMITH (A DIEHARD STEELERS FAN) QUESTIONS ABOUT LAMAR JACKSON‼️ HE IS GOING TO HATE REGARDLESS‼️
He puts the team in his back doe. 👑 🏈🥶😵🙌🏿✊🏿🤷🏿♂️🙅🏿♂️. Do your thang young King 🤴🏿
The most accurate QB ever so far for his age with below average receivers and average TE's.....
"He's gotta prove he can pass" - SAS
He's great for his age and has alot of potential but just because he's the most accurate at his age doesn't make him an elite QB
@eoe123321 "Ever" means everyone sir.
@@hectorgaytan2424 the season he's having is proving he's elite. No one made the point you were trying to address
@@getbuckets4252 half a season as a starter does not prove your elite, once there is game plan and they try to nurf you and you keep producing pass the season into the playoffs and the following season then your elite, how many guys have we seen go on runs. Hecks even Goff got the elite title tossed his way
@@getbuckets4252 truth is there aren't that many QBs that started age 22
Lamar Jackson destroyed Seahawks elite team
Stephan A : Lamar Jackson is not Elite because he didn’t complete more pass
Everyone : Andrews drops the ball 3 times.
Stephane A : Lamar is not a quarter back let’s see him vs patriots
Lamar Jackson wins again
Stephan’s A : he’s not going to win a play off game
Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
Max Kellerman: "Lamar Jackson is the most accurate passer at age 21 in the history of the NFL"
Dimitry Renaud so so ridiculous Kellerman has no idea what he is talking about
That’s like saying steph Curry’s not an elite point guard because he doesn’t average 8+ assists per game. Lamar produces at his position stop hating
Coach Pete Carroll said Jackson is faster in person than what they seen on tape...smh
Lol faster than Reggie bush?
Well Ravens is 5-2 & Steelers is 2-4? Of course Stephen is going to hate lol.
I’m no raven fan but Lamar played really great yesterday carried the team on his back
The Patriots have the best defense because they've played the softest schedule in the NFL.
He's the new era Michael Vick
Thats goes to Patrick mahomes
Donell Clemons not at all
Donell Clemons not even close. Mahomes is all time but he ain’t Vick
U crazy, Vick back in the day was the truth. Could launch it 70 yards and out run defenses that consisted of that superbowl Tampa defense.
Who’s here after Lamar beat the the patriots?
Here... will be a Ravens fan win or lose...and so glad we beat the PATRIOTS and their G.O.A.T..haha
He Woulda Been 12-20 Which Is 60% If Andrews Didn’t Drop 3 Passes🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Wasn’t everyone literally just raving about how he was passing really well during weeks 1-2??
I’m a browns fan, and this dude a beast. Don’t know how someone can see the way he performed against Seahawks and hate is beyond me. Obviously Stephen A trying get them ratings
This is a New Day & Age, as long as the Team Believes in HIM as a Leader & he stays confident in what he can do to Lead his team to a Victory, He's A Quality/Phenomenal Quarterback! & if he played at a Top 5 College, he would've won multiple Heisman trophies! That's just how Steven A judge's a Quarterback!
Lamar Jackson crushed the Patriots. That's elite in my book.
Lamar wins a super bowl Stephen A "I don't see him as elite quarterback."
None of these guys thought he was even draftable especially at QB. They wanted him to play at WR and they still hating even though he balling
So a QB is only a passer? The league is changing. Lamar is a rare breed and will change the definition of what an "Elite" QB is.
Exactly.
Stephen A talks like Lamar Jackson can't throw a football. Every play isn't a designed QB sneak.
Max Kellerman: Lamar Jackson is already in the MVP race!
Stephen A Smith: Smoothie King Arena....
"No I don't. I don't must say yes." I don't know why I found that funny. 🤣🤣🤣
He out played "Mr MVP Russ" Give the youngster some credit!
Not In terms of passing the ball
When Michael Irvin is the voice of reasoning, the end is near! LOL
The Ravens defense played well yesterday for Earl Thomas at his first game in Seattle. Lamar Jackson's test will come when he plays New England and Brady.
Reginald Williams Agreed
6-2
No Gronk this year, I believe Ravens win
I am a die hard Ravens fans...been since they came into the league...NOW WHAT..WE BEAT THE PATRIOTS.... what does everyone have to say about The Ravens and Lamar..but some RESPECT ON OUR TEAM AND LAMAR
Stephen A just hates the idea of the Steelers losing to Lamar
*Stephen A Smith doesn't have a Elite hairline till he proves he can shave it all OFF*
I love the fire and intensity in Lamar. Calling the field goal unit off the field and him running for the touchdown. That was his call. That is how much respect his coaches and teammates have in him. In spite of the absence of Marquise Brown, steady rain and Andrews dropping passes, Lamar put the offense on his shoulders and willed this team to victory. Imagine that in spite of being only 22 years of age! I call that elite.
this just proves they didn't watch the game but look at the box score when there was 8 drops and one was a touch down
Michael said "everytime you run, my kids ain't getting shoes" 😂😂😂😂😂
A quarterback is not just the thrower of the football he is the captain and the floor general.
Stephen A's point makes 0 point. The question is not is he an Elite thrower or passer? It's if he is a Elite QB? Are QB's not allowed to run?
The dude all season been showing he can pass
9-20
Huh?
Will Jones 8 dropped passes one for a td…
As a Ravens fan I agree with Irvin. 4:28 "He is a future Elite QB but As of Right now he is just a Bad man playing QB" Facts!
Am I the only one who's tired of hearing Max bring up how young Lamar is. Im a big Ravens fan but its getting old hearing him mention HES A BABY. HES ONLY 22. Like we get it at this point. Love the lamar support but say bruh give a differenr stat. GO RAVENS
it's just a back-handed compliment...
Im tired of seeing all Lamars first take videos saying “he needs to improve on throwing” He is 11-3 as a starter. Stop trying to belittle our wins. It’s pissing Baltimore fans off
He was breaking ankles yesterday. Enough said. Can we give him time like the other QB's
So why isn’t Dak labeled as an Elite QB when he can do it all?
Lamar Jackson>>>Baker Mayfield
Let’s not forget Stephen A’s favorite teams is the Steelers ... he will never be high on the Ravens... he’ll give us some credit but he will never rave about us or Lamar Jackson the way he raves for other players and teams...
Anyone here after they beat the patriots
his passing stats wouldve been better if it wasnt for dropped passes
Lamar could win MVP and Stephen A will still discredit him.
No, Lamar Jackson is far from elite. Still has some ways to go. On the right track though.
Stephen A is the same guy who said Dwayne Haskins is a running QB. Don’t take him too seriously.
A Initiate Facts Haskins is like Big Ben
The ravens had 9 dropped passes by WR/TE and if you watched the game you know Lamar was making amazing passes.
He’s rite there with Tom Brady but he can’t throw that’s nonsense let him be great and stop hating first take
I'm just sitting here enjoying that everyone is debating "MVP" and "Elite" for Lamar when 6 months ago most these people had him written off completely. Eat crow.
It’s becoming more and more obvious that Stephen A Smith doesn’t watch football
You right. He's a Steelers fan. And the Cowboys are winning some games.
“ I don’t must say yes” - Stephen A Smith
Lamar takes what the Defence gives him and has proven he can pass. The days of sitting in the pocket are over!! In this new era you have to do both!! If my offensive line don't protect, I'm taking what I see. The goal is to score more points than your opposition. Foh with this old school traditional one dimensional QBs that sit in the pocket that you can barley breath on without a flag thrown. FOH!
Not ready for Bill? When the Ravens have proven to be the only team to beat the Patriots in the AFC come playoffs time.... 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Don't be surprised if pats takes a loss n Bmore cause the speed man we have. You just ask Seahawks Defense.
And we did..Haha
I just watch Lamar against Patriots last night, now est ya words First Take, aaahaaaa
duh he is legit and dont forget about how many drops he had yesterday from his receivers
Michael Irvin is PREACHING!
stephen a’s takes on lamar jackson’s passing are as bad as max’s takes about how harden shouldn’t get regular season awards because of the playoffs
I still don't get the argument about what they are trying to say about Lamar Jackson. I mean, what's an elite NFL player that plays the QB position, but he's not an elite QB?? It doesn't make any sense when you put some actual thought into it. There are a lot of average NFL QB that has elite arm strength, that can sit behind the pocket all day, sling it down the field, and they still suck. So their argument is really weak about the elite QB criteria that they are trying to label Lamar Jackson.
First he can’t be Did Russell Wilson in Seattle he did it yesterday now you’re trying to find more excuses to throw him under the bus
Stephen A. Smith cant see that the game is changing...
Lol okay stephen a. If you watched the game his recievers were dropping passes and touchdowns.
I agree, I'ma need him to throw for 300 & run for another 100, he's gonna be unstoppable
How many superbowl cam newton carry his team to compare to an "elite " quarterback Andrew luck.
How many mvp doea Andrew luck have?
@4Respect4Freedom4loyalty who played in more games?
Which quarterback carries his team to the superbowl.
Impact on the game playing quarterback cam was better.
@4Respect4Freedom4loyalty cam newton did it different.
End results was superbowl and mvp. Play in more games.
I am speaking facts. You not going against the facts.
@Tennessee Titans how is that simple. A "pocket quarterback " miss more games due to injuries than cam newton.
He lead his team to the superbowl. Something cam never did.
You can pull up x and o and i can show you results.
Again being a "pocket quarterback" dosen't guarantee you success.
They have to play cam newton different than Andrew luck. I give you that. But his impact was greater and had more success.
Being a true leader is even important than just being good at throwing a football. Lamar showed that in beating an elite Russell Wilson at his house. Amazing!
3 weeks later
Nobody gets it worse from Stephen A then black QBs smfh
He’s not an elite passer, but if he’s winning and he is at high level, why no recognition... Lamar is different. Get over it
Why should he bother passing when he can bob and weave right past you and easily run into the endzone?????
He’s an elite player who plays the qb position... thus and such he’s an elite qb... smh. There’s more than one way to be successful
He is definitely not an elite passer. He throws wobbling ducks all the time. He rarely drops a true dime. His passes are often behind and high. His scouting report said he had poor mechanics. His numbers have looked good because his running ability has led to a lot of wide open passed to large TE's into the middle of the field. It's easier to catch a duck thrown off target when your not getting lit up or fairly wide open. The drop passes thing is somewhat of a myth or at least "if it hits the hands it should be caught." If you're an elite WR you may catch wobbly passes thrown behind you when running at full speed in the playoffs, but the vast majority of wr's need a spiral on target. The chances that he becomes an elite passer learning in the NFL when he isn't an elite passer now are slim. Can someone name an elite passer in the history of the NFL that started his passing career looking so poorly as Lamar? Name a HOF'er or SB winner that came out of college as an average passer but became an elite passer?