Joe Burrow QB Record 29-22-1 Lamar Jackson QB Record 58-19 Please make me understand how Joe Burrow is better since play on the field speaks for itself. Lamar is a 2x MVP 3x Pro Bowl 2x All pro while Joe Burrow has 1 Pro Bowl.
There’s no way they are still using this burrow superbowl nonsense if burrows superbowl put him above lamar. Then that would mean Matthew Stafford would be above Burrow Matt literally was the qb who outplayed snd best burrow in the same super bowl.
@@andrewstacy3937 nah lamar won mvp because when any other qb would have been sacked or forced to throw the football away, lamar buys time and makes a play. Lamars clutch ability to win in close games, like the rams, for example, are another big reason he won mvp.
@@andrewstacy3937dumbest comment I’ve ever seen. Calling someone a participant when they are literally the entire offense just shows us how casual of a fan you are. Just copy and paste whatever ESPN says
Burrow only beat Lamar once and that’s because Lamar was playing with 15 injured players. I guess we didn’t see them play twice last year 😂Lamar won twice even when Joe got hurt they were losing.
Exactly if I recall correctly wasn’t the guy STEPHEN A SMITH SAY CANT THROW OUT DUEL THE GUY WITH BETTER WEAPONS AND TO WHAT STEPHEN A SMITH SAY A BETTER ARM. Lamar always out playes burrow idk why this is an argument Lamar torches burrow If yall don’t believe me go watch WEEK 2 of last year burrow vs Jackson and tell me who the better qb the guy who everyone says can’t throw he can just run beat the guy who just throws to his top 10 WRs also Lamar does this with less weapons
@@guyfromnewarkneither is lamar. the only time lamars been to the afccg is when burrow wasn't in his way cause he was injured. only difference is that burrow beat mahomes
All I know is Lamar won his first MVP at the age of 22 with his best WR being a guy named Willie Snead, his second with a 5'10 rookie WR. Joe Burrow has 3 legit number 1 WR core. There is no comparison
It's hilarious. You force that man to play from the pocket and he's mediocre. There is this whole racist thing going on with Lamar Jackson too where black commentators seem to feel they have to promote him regardless of his glaringly obvious flaws. He's a talented athlete, but he'll never win a super bowl.
If burrow is better than Lamar in totality, then goff is better than burrow. End of story. Get some slop at your local skyline with your friends and vent about this. Rest of us have better stuff to do.
Tyler Huntley would have Baltimore in the lottery stop lying and when in SPORTS HISTORY have EVER seen a backup as good as u say not get scooped up by a team make him a starter, nice try bro 😂
So it’s all about the regular season?? Joe is carrying one of the worst franchise in NFL history. Lamar went to one of the 3 most well run organization’s over the last 25 years. Context is everything.
Winning MVP is not THE goal for any team or player. Winning the Super Bowl is THE goal. Everything in the regular season: the stats, team record, seeding, the accolades, awards, etc. - all of that happens in pursuit of winning a championship. It’s not meaningless it’s just not the most important. I guarantee Lamar would trade both MVPs for just 1 Super Bowl victory
@ryanmartin6878 Winning the championship is a team goal and accomplishment. We agree that is the most important thing. Winning the mvp is an individual goal and accomplishment that should be the deciding factor on individual ranking lists. If that makes sense. Losing the championship game isn't an actual accomplishment. Do we agree about that?
Kimberly been smoking some serious weed laced with a hallucinogen. LMAO!!! Lamar owns Joe Borrow. He is 4-1 vs He has 3 Pro Bowls, 2 All Pro selections and 2 MVP selections. Both should have been unanimous. One of the writers could not stand it and voted for Josh Allen. She just put Joe in Lamar's crosshairs again.
Football aside , Joe has leaned into his Joe Sheisty persona a little too far. I rocked with Bureaux who kept it cool when they were doing the get the gat song and he just puffed his stogie.
@@Kelvin-k8n Burrow fans love to glorify a player that LOST a SB. They love giving out PARTICIPATION awards! Lol Grown men don't give or care about PARTICIPATION awards, save that for the kids. This is the NFL. Burrow is an injury/bad season away of being your average overrated yt QB.
I just don't get why they always bring up that Joe been to a super bowl and lost btw, if we going on that knowledge why isn't Jalen hurts ain't up there 😭😭😭
@@jtbear77 and how many times joe been out for the season, I'm just saying they always bring up a super bowl that happened 2years ago. If Joe don't get it done this year the window finna be small
@@Zotiy that’s what you think 🤣 Burrow put on 15lbs of muscle he won’t have a significant injury for a while bud . I can say the same thing for Lamar but is window has always been closed same for Allen . Joe only focused on Mahomes and winning a championship for Cincinnati . It’s inevitable
the nfl wont give him another mvp till he wins a superbowl he could have the best stats next year n record but it wont matter. at this point he just has to go win a sb, now if he wins the sb next year lets say then the year after that hed prob be the favorite to win an mvp but till he gets the job done they wont allow him to win another one
@@AnthonyMercado-1988They are stacked in the run game. Decent in passing game. Most QBs have a true world class WR1. Ravens have a lot of good WR2 and an elite TE who's injured. It will still be a struggle passing late in games so long as they don't pull the trigger on a WR1 ranked in the top 15. But we shall see. They do look unbeatable with Henry 😂
@@AnthonyMercado-1988the team is not stacked. Lamar is so great you think the team is stacked. The o-line is trash and Lamar’s best weapon is a second year zay flowers. If Lamar wins a SB it will be inspite of his GM and Head coach.
LJ not even a question! Burrow has the same amount of rings as Lamar but Lamar has 2 MVP’s 😂. And stop saying you love someone then disrespect them the very next sentence
Kimberly's only reasoning that Joe Burrow should be the second best QB in the league is that he went to the Superbowl 3 years ago? If that's the case why don't we rank the guy that won that Superbowl (Matthew Stafford) in the top 2? What about Jalen Hurts who has been to a Superbowl more recently than Burrow? Or how about Brock Purdy? If all it takes to be the second best QB is losing in the Superbowl we have some people who have done that more recently than Burrow and had better games in the Superbowl. Plus the other guys have been healthy Burrow has been in the league four seasons and already had two season ending injuries the truth is people put Burrow on this pedestal because he "beat Mahomes" but quarterbacks dont play each other because if that was the case Lamar is 4-1 vs Joe Burrow and we wouldn't be debating whose better between the two, the standard changes for Burrow magically.
@@Cartierhendrix_ 2 years go actually . Smart one . And uh cause he had a cool name , throws accurately , poised , swagger , and has changed the franchise which the media was wrong about him saying they’d ruin his career . Y’all must have forgot what all the media was saying if Burrow gets drafted to the Bengals . “Ahh they’ll ruin his career” “Ahh boycott” “Bengals are a horrible franchise , they aren’t gonna do right with Joe” The media was terribly wrong . And in his first full season he had a magical run to the sb while doing so beating Mahomes to get there . And second season he was seconds away to going to back to SBs if it wasn’t for that controversial call. Mane y’all gonna have to respect that boy Burrow . Talking mad crazy . and in his 4th season ahh season ending injury .
it's not disrespectful to say he's a playoff choker (it's reality) and I'm not even talking about his playoff record. he has a 75 passer rating in his playoff career.
Sorry Kimberley, but when ranking QBs saying "he made it to a Super Bowl" is a poor argument. Eli Manning won 2 Super Bowls, and I don't think he was ever considered better than Drew Brees, Rodgers, and you can make a serious argument for Philip Rivers. It's not like Lamar is letting his team down every time. Even after Brady's first 2 Super Bowls, it was obvious Peyton was the better QB.
@@archer5834 and you know this how? Give most people that team nd the team isn’t that good burrow has always had top flight weapons around him we dont kno what he’d do without it
The fact that ppl act like this is a debate is hilarious. Lamar just won his 2nd MVP and was 1 game away from the Super Bowl. Meanwhile Burrow is still living off a victory over Mahomes that happened 3 years ago. What are we doing man😂
Forget what Kim is saying, when it comes to a professional athlete you have to look at the consistent performance year after year. In football it takes a whole team to win a championship
@vidi2845 people now a days don't know what an elite qb is. Lamar is more ofva game manager who team wins because of the entire team. His numbers are game manager numbers.
@vidi2845 passing yards is a volume stats he throws considerably less than most of the other starters because his presence always ensures that his team will be one of if not the best rushing teams in the league. If your counter argument is based on counting stats as opposed to actually watching the games there's no discussion to be had. Lamar's impact is undeniable
It's Mahomes and everyone elese. The other qbs are all fighting for second. Lamars bad playoff performances eliminate him from bring 2 and his medicore numbers , his a game manger who makes some flash plays
That has to happen first. Patty be kicking Lamar and Josh Allen nem ahhs. Burrow the ONLY one that has beaten Patty in the playoffs. That’s why Joe better 😂
@@bluesky7333 Lamar gets the 1st seed so ge's not gonna get the chance to pad his playoff record like burrow he's 1-1 in the wc matchup so let's tell the whole truth
@@truzzprod.8191 Burrow is 5-2 in postseason. Lamar 2-4. Lamar has 9 total td's and 8 turnovers in 6 games. Not good enough. Stop making excuses for the man. It's always this or that. Bottom line, he is not a winner in the postseason. Not debateable.
@@NemoRackkz Burrow's won more games on the road in the playoffs than Lamar won period. 5-2 in the playoffs vs 2-4 in the playoffs. You want to talk about teams, well, the Ravens seem to have Burrow's number, but that doesn't mean Jackson's a better QB. When you really have to win, he can. I'm eager to see what Burrow does after a healthy training camp with a revamped line this season.
Jackson has a great record because of a historically great team defense. Lamar doesn't show up in playoffs because playoff teams are good. Lamar and Ravens get a good record for beating the teams they're supposed to beat. Playoffs teams know how to stop Lamar. When Burrow is healthy (2 out of 4 years in league) he's been to AFCCG twice and went to the super bowl. Lamar chokes in big games. That's a fact. Lamar can be the greatest regular season QB. No one plays football for the regular season.
So if were going by losing Superbowls, Goeff, Jimmy G, Hurts, Kaepernick, Ryan, all of these guys are better than. Where does that make sense!?? Losing is losing. That means Jim Kelly is top 5 because he lost 4 Superbowls.... anybody can get hot once, but what about being consistent?? Too much credit for losing.
Molly stay disrespecting Lamar arm. Lamar is the highest rated intermediate passer. The highest rated passer with more than 2 sec. The most perfect passer rating games in the league and only trails by 1 for the all time record. Lead the league in TD passes his second year.
@@TjFreely2 different type of offense not his fault and last year he won the MVP with Mark Andrews and his top RB went down and had no one to go over 1000 yards.
Lamar Jackson may not have had the same caliber of weapons as Joe Burrow, but Lamar Jackson has had the best record in the nfl 2x with those weapons. So they were good enough, but Lamar’s play ALWAYS takes a step back in the playoffs. It’s like clockwork. If he played to the standard he set in the regular season the ravens would’ve been superbowl champions by now
Cuz the ravens play the weirdest style of offense in the league and it don't work in the playoffs when defenses are locked in planning for it. The ravens be catching ppl off guard with that gimmick shtt
Cuz coaching takes a step back in the playoffs. I've watched every game since Lamar has been the QB and aside from his rookie year, every time the Ravens get to the playoffs they do the opposite of what got them there in the first place.
Wake up fam, when in today's sports does being number 1 in the REGULAR SEASON mattered? U win with top notch talent PERIOD. Baltimore has never in the HISTORY of the franchise had a Jamar Chase player, EVER. Case closed.
Burrow is 5-2 in postseason and 1-1 in AFC Championship. Burrow beat MAHOMES in his 2nd year for AFC Championship. Lamar is 2-4 in postseason and 0-1 in AFC Championship. Not many can say they beat Mahomes in the AFC Championship. Easy decision for me. The better passer and more clutch player in postseason is Burrow. Regular season doesn't matter in postseason. It is a new season.
Burrow is a much better passer. Lamar is a much better runner. Lamar wins MVP's because of great running and mediocre passing. One of the two styles has proven to win it all. The better passer is who I want in the postseason. I'd pick Joe Burrow. He has proven to be a champion in college and took the Bengals to the SB. His playoff record is 5-2. Lamar has 2-4 record with awful stats in postseason. To me, this is a very easy decision. You pick the better passer of the two, that is Joe Burrow. If I was choosing from Mahomes and Lamar, I'd go with the better passer- Mahomes.
Lamar is above burrow, and the simplest way to put it is this: Both good regular season qbs but Lamar has the accolades(fully aware his second mvp was extremely mediocre stat wise) When it comes to playoffs both suck, Lamar performs poorly and so does burrow. only difference is burrow has better weapons offensively and a better coaching staff that helped him squeak by the chiefs once just to get smacked in the bowl.
Joe is a mere 29-22(average Joe) Lamar is a whopping 58-19(Hall of Fame pace). Oh yeah, Joe is a pitiful 1-4 vs Lamar. Lamar is only QB in history to throw 400 yards and 85% completion. Lamar is 1 of 3 QBs to have 3 perfect ratings.
@@aaronbutler9373 all this just to choke with that crazy defense he always has smh how does he forget how to score in the post season? Post his post season numbers
Lamar is so good he hasnt had the privelage of beating up on bad teams in wildcard round because Lamar gets his team a bye so his stats arent padded like other QBS.
Lamar what 6-2 vs burrow Burrow 29-22-1 Lamar 58-19 Don’t give the playoff excuse when burrow played in 2 playoff years and had a bowl run and they lost. Don’t give the injury excuse either when burrow missed more time then Lamar too
Instead of taking Chase, they should have taken Sewell or Slater. Worried about his security blanket in stead of fixing the o line. It's their own fault.
The Bengals were better than the Ravens one year, but Burrow hasn't ever been a better player than Lamar Jackson individually. Win an mvp or two or a championship game or something, and then come back and discuss.
@@jtbear77 bruh 29-22-1 could never compare to 58-19 convo dead and don't speak on playoff wins if he ain't come out wit a ring so them shits don't matter
no excuse for 2-4 in the playoffs we gotta be better so its not a bad take to give burrow the nod but also look at the fact that lamar is 4-1 vs burrow. 2 MVPS to his none with less talent. And this misconception that these other qbs throw “better” is getting out of hand, they just throw MORE because they can’t do what LJ can, and people have been using this since LJ got in the nfl but watch the film. Btw they’re both 27 but Lamar is younger 😭 so cmon now. He is the 2nd best behind mahomes.
It’s funny the Burrow naysayers keep saying that his defense carried him to a Super Bowl. The Bengals defense hasn’t even been ranked top 15 since he’s been in the league. If that’s the argument, how do you explain Lamar not making the Super Bowl with a consistently top 5 ranked defense? Wouldn’t that still make Lamar worse? Last year they were ranked #1 and he still couldn’t do it.
Lamar has a way better supporting cast on ALL positions . Disclosing wr😅 but had many all pros and bro bowlers on his team and yet still can win when it counts . Seems like a loser to me . Give Burrow a top 5/10 defense every season .😮 Lamar has everything at his disposal and chokes chokes chokes
@@jtbear77 Burrow spent 4+ years playing in Zac Taylor's offense. Lamar spent four years playing in Greg Roman's offense. It's night and day when it comes to the passing scheme and passing development.
@@segagenesis7708 what about skill positions for both bengals and ravens mhm ? And also it’s not a passing the ball scheme for Lamar but yet y’all complaining he has no wrs. Ravens aren’t a pass first offense. Lamars team in totality all the skill position players are more talented except Bengals wr took is of the best in the league . You wanna bring up head coaches 😂 Lamar has a top 5 coach every year in Jim harbaugh . He has way more help than Burrow
@@soda8736 just by your comment already know you’re another beta male who barely watches sports. By that logic, you’re another Joe Burrow fanboy 100%. You’re the type of clown that keeps making excuses. And not only that but Joe Burrow kept getting injured. You guys said nothing Lamar barely even got injured and you and you guys call him injury prone yet Joe Burrow you touch him and he breaks like glass. He has never been healthy. Just admit you don’t like black players versus the white ones and we can move forward after that. And trust me I already know you’re not black. Have a good day.
All we learned last year is that every QB in the NFL melts under Lamar Jackson other than mahomes. 😂 So that makes him number 2! Literally no QB beat mahomes in the playoffs!!! And every QB got OBLITTERATED by Lamar during the season and the playoffs. Had Lamar been in the NFC. The super bowl would have been Lamar vs mahomes. We all know this to be true!
JOE BURROW TOOK THE WORST TEAM IN THE NFL TO A SUPER BOWL... The Bengals had the 1st Pick in that draft for a reason... Yes... the Bengals are talented... NOW!!! But they weren't when they first drafted him. They had potential... and Burrow got them there. The Baltimore Ravens... the KC Chiefs... these teams were good BEFORE MAHOMES AND JACKSON got there. Neither of them had to deal with the same level of adversity that Burrow has over the course of his time with the NFL.
Keep him. Lamar beats the breaks off him on the regular. The only way Joey beats him is when he plays him and Lamar has 15 players on IR. If Joe gets credit for owning Mahomes, Lamar gets the same credit for owning Joe. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best.
@@keymold4405 Boyd ain't a number 1 receiver. Just because Joe Burrow has better receivers doesn't mean his team is better. The ravens had more players in the top 100 rankings than any other team not including the 49ers. Ravens is like the early 2000's patriots and Steelers teams Bengals are like the early 2000's colts but with a bad Offensive line.
Why do people blame the OC for not running in the AFC Championship? What didn’t Lamar the leader stand up and say we are running the ball. You think Peyton, Brady, or any great leader just go along if they disagree as a game is slipping away. Do they not at points will their teams to victory as great leaders? Last year was Lamar’s best chance to stand up and say I’m Here. And he didn’t.
@@raynmaker629 yea we’ve been to more sbs . Joe Flacco is better than Lamar . And uh Lamar as NEVER been to a sb considering he’s been playing since 2019 . He has no team accomplishments at all . Zero , nadah. He’s has two self deserving awards to himself . Burrow has set the bar high for Cincinnati and has actually performed in the playoffs and wins . Has broken many records for the Bengals and uh will win a SB this season or def next soo I hope you enjoy the show
Damien Woody knocking Burrow for not staying healthy doesn't make sense when Lamar had season ending injuries 2 of the last 3 years. And then saying you can't hold losing to Mahomes against Lamar cause Mahomes is a god.... ok and Burrow beat the god and Lamar didn't. Again he is making the point for Burrow
When you have to succeed despite playing in the worst passing scheme in the league, that's not an excuse. Greg Roman's offense has never produced a top passing offense or developed a high quality WR. Put Burrow, Allen, anybody in that offense and we'll never hear the end of how much the coaching is failing their passing development. Thank God for Todd Monken.
@@soda8736 I’ll agree cuz I thought the same but two is still two and even if it was one that’s still more tho the QBs whole get pushed ahead of him besides Mahomes
Affirmative action MVPs don't count my guy. Can't have the best oline best D and best run game in the leauge (both times ) and think MVP means something. He got them shits (especially the 2nd one ) for different reasons. And everyone knows it
Lamar is great… but his team can’t beat good teams. Burrow plays a style that can beat good teams. If they both are healthy and had the same roster around them….Burrow wins everytime. It’s a team game at the end of the day. Burrow plays the better team ball.
That’s completely false .. because burrow literally had prolly the best WR trio everytime they’ve played.. Lamar never had that.. but yet Lamar 4-1 against Joe
@@nevillecoley4976 And the worst offensive line in football. If Burrow had the line Lamar has had, he could have high school receivers and win in the NFL.
Atleast they’ve had a chance. Lamar is literally a playoff choker. Every single one of his stats does down the drain the moment the playoffs arrive. He’s not that guy. Yk it’s a problem when CJ Stroud and Jordan Love have half the playoff wins as him already after 1 year of starting.
@@nevillecoley4976 ur logic is flawed that’s like saying if ur not gonna make the SB you might as well not make the playoffs. Like what’s the difference between Baker Mayfield and Lamar Jackson. What’s better none or none
Here they go making excuses for Lamar again. If he was such a good passer why did the Ravens go out and get Derrick Henry. And watch Hollywood Brown put up numbers this year with a real QB.
He isn’t an elite passer but he is much improved. He will always be better at running and that is why the Ravens are a run first team. They got Henry because all their running backs kept getting injured. Henry has been one of the most durable and productive running backs in the nfl.
Any and every team that has a chance to sign derrick henry will sign him even the chiefs you have no argument and a big reason why they lost the afc last year was because of a fumble by zay flowers
The most protected QBs in the league are Jackson, Allen, and Tua we’re about to see another year of Ravens hype just so they can melt in the playoffs….the ravens could go 17-0 and I would still bet them to not reach the Super Bowl
With her logic, Jalen Hurts is better than Lamar. He been to the Bowl, AND he played better than Burrow did.. Is Hurts better than Lamar? NO It’s amazing how Burrow missing all these games doesn’t matter, because God knows they cared when it was Lamar.. Burrow has ZERO MVPs… Lamar > Burrow I have Burrow 3rd imo
How can joe burrow be ahead of lamar jackson? He has jamar chase and tee higgins and had a legit RB! Even on that playoff run, the bengals forced like 13 turnovers and shut teams down in the second half! The defense won most of burrows playoff games anyways! They beat the titans 19-16 because Tannehill inexplicably threw 3 picks! They beat the Ravens backup QB because he fumbled the ball on the goal line and the bengals defense ran it back 99 yards! Lamar Jacksons first playoff list shouldn’t even count! The second one they had about 6 drops and gave up like 200 yards on the ground to derek henry! He still had 500 total yards in defeat! This past year, if flowers doesn’t fumble the ball at the goal line, the ravens win!
lol people love to point out how “bad” Lamar’s receivers are but forget to mention he always has a top 5 defense and a top rated run game (which means a good line to throw behind) - the reason burrow has been hurt so much is the horrible O lines year after year - not to mention JB is a more accurate passer and has higher QB ratings than Lamar has ever had
So give Jackson all the credit and none of the blame? Jackson was great last year. 3 years prior, average. He won MVP in 2019. So the base for Jackson is MVP 2x and can't do anything in the playoffs. Why doesn't he get that James hate for it?
Joe Burrow QB Record 29-22-1
Lamar Jackson QB Record 58-19
Please make me understand how Joe Burrow is better since play on the field speaks for itself. Lamar is a 2x MVP 3x Pro Bowl 2x All pro while Joe Burrow has 1 Pro Bowl.
@@AnthonyMercado-1988burrow ain won shii in the playoffs how’s he a better playoff performer?😂
@@AnthonyMercado-1988bro only played in the playoffs two seasons smh
They really just hating when Lamar win they going act like they been believing all along
Preach, Joe has a BETTER TEAM, idiots struggle to understand that 😂
@@AnthonyMercado-1988 So That means Jalen Hurts is also better then Lamar?
There’s no way they are still using this burrow superbowl nonsense
if burrows superbowl put him above lamar.
Then that would mean Matthew Stafford would be above Burrow
Matt literally was the qb who outplayed snd best burrow in the same super bowl.
It’s just ridiculous how much credit he gets for making it to the Super Bowl and losing
@@wavemanj14 that defense got Burrow to the Super Bowl.
Stafford is better than both lets be real. Theres a reason all of his receivers look amazing each year. Stafford is criminally underrated
@@nevillecoley4976fax. Burrow has one pro bowl to his name. That is it.
If that’s the case Jalen hurts should be right there with them then
Giving Joe Burrow a participation trophy is crazy 🤣
Lamar's MVP's are pretty much participation trophies too
@@andrewstacy3937 nah lamar won mvp because when any other qb would have been sacked or forced to throw the football away, lamar buys time and makes a play. Lamars clutch ability to win in close games, like the rams, for example, are another big reason he won mvp.
@@alexwinters5362 you know Joe Burrow is the #1 ranked QB in the clutch metric.
AFC Championship trophy isn't a participation award
@@andrewstacy3937dumbest comment I’ve ever seen. Calling someone a participant when they are literally the entire offense just shows us how casual of a fan you are. Just copy and paste whatever ESPN says
Burrow only beat Lamar once and that’s because Lamar was playing with 15 injured players. I guess we didn’t see them play twice last year 😂Lamar won twice even when Joe got hurt they were losing.
Exactly if I recall correctly wasn’t the guy STEPHEN A SMITH SAY CANT THROW OUT DUEL THE GUY WITH BETTER WEAPONS AND TO WHAT STEPHEN A SMITH SAY A BETTER ARM. Lamar always out playes burrow idk why this is an argument Lamar torches burrow
If yall don’t believe me go watch WEEK 2 of last year burrow vs Jackson and tell me who the better qb the guy who everyone says can’t throw he can just run beat the guy who just throws to his top 10 WRs also Lamar does this with less weapons
Burrow wasn't healthy for either game last year.
@@MDK384Hes never healthy. Also the one time hes went to a SB Lamar wasn't in his way cuz he was injured
@@guyfromnewarkneither is lamar. the only time lamars been to the afccg is when burrow wasn't in his way cause he was injured. only difference is that burrow beat mahomes
@@MDK384 Burrow is never in the way.
All I know is Lamar won his first MVP at the age of 22 with his best WR being a guy named Willie Snead, his second with a 5'10 rookie WR. Joe Burrow has 3 legit number 1 WR core. There is no comparison
who throws better, who plays better in postseason
Lamar has a better supporting cast . O line , defense , that’s enough to win games (playoffs . Give burrow an elite defense. Yea
Lamar has had a better line defense and coach too but sure I guess 😂
@@fyilando854Lamar has a stronger arm unquestionably
@@donovangarrett3506 does stronger arm mean better thrower??? NO SO YOUR POINT IS STUPID
"Have you not seen what he does in the pocket?" Shows 5 consecutive qb run highlights lol
It's hilarious. You force that man to play from the pocket and he's mediocre. There is this whole racist thing going on with Lamar Jackson too where black commentators seem to feel they have to promote him regardless of his glaringly obvious flaws. He's a talented athlete, but he'll never win a super bowl.
I used to work at ESPN those Voice overs or VOs are premade and they probably have reused that one for months and haven’t updated it 😂😂😂
@@volcanicmax007 lamar is weak
@@parrisrobinson5083 weak like that comment 🥱🥱🥱
If burrow is better than Lamar in totality, then goff is better than burrow.
End of story. Get some slop at your local skyline with your friends and vent about this. Rest of us have better stuff to do.
Gauff has a larger sample size, yall have seen his sealing
Then Stafford is definitely better cuz Bengals lost to the Rams in the SB
Y’all stupid
@@Cells.Interlink makes zero sense but hey whatever floats your boat . Talking crazy on Burrow is insane . Hi watch football you slug
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Yall forgot Tyler Huntley was a fumble away from beating the Bengals that year?
@@4TBuck but they don't hear ya doe
Tyler Huntley would have Baltimore in the lottery stop lying and when in SPORTS HISTORY have EVER seen a backup as good as u say not get scooped up by a team make him a starter, nice try bro 😂
@@brettthomas6327 bro that has nothin to do with nothing he still was a fumble away frm beating the Bengals that year 🤷🏿♂️
@@brettthomas6327yo just say you ain’t watch the game lol you clearly don’t even know what I’m talking about
lmao we want to talk about that 2022 team with and without Lamar?
Why is this even a discussion? Lamar is the second best QB in the league.
So it’s all about the regular season?? Joe is carrying one of the worst franchise in NFL history. Lamar went to one of the 3 most well run organization’s over the last 25 years. Context is everything.
Maybe regular season he's 2nd. Wouldn't give him that honor in the post season.
Ja sorry buddy
So if we wanna go off ur “context” then cj is better than Lamar huh? Jared Goff better? Come on dawg
@@BonySopraneauxcarrying? Only 2 good seasons
Ridiculous argument that winning 2 mvps means a double standard that lowers you beneath a non winner.
Ngl his second MVP was so fraudulent. Dak had way better numbers than him
💯💯@@nashefore1912
Winning MVP is not THE goal for any team or player. Winning the Super Bowl is THE goal. Everything in the regular season: the stats, team record, seeding, the accolades, awards, etc. - all of that happens in pursuit of winning a championship. It’s not meaningless it’s just not the most important. I guarantee Lamar would trade both MVPs for just 1 Super Bowl victory
@@nashefore1912 Lamar beat better teams, that's why he won MVP over Dak...
@ryanmartin6878 Winning the championship is a team goal and accomplishment. We agree that is the most important thing. Winning the mvp is an individual goal and accomplishment that should be the deciding factor on individual ranking lists. If that makes sense. Losing the championship game isn't an actual accomplishment. Do we agree about that?
Stop letting Kimberly talk though. I’m so serious.
Soon as she started her talking point she lost me.
This is why not playing the game matters. She doesn’t know what she is talking about !
@@Blacklat58 exactly
Kimberly been smoking some serious weed laced with a hallucinogen. LMAO!!! Lamar owns Joe Borrow. He is 4-1 vs He has 3 Pro Bowls, 2 All Pro selections and 2 MVP selections. Both should have been unanimous. One of the writers could not stand it and voted for Josh Allen. She just put Joe in Lamar's crosshairs again.
@@AskMeWhyFDI she probably does something stronger than that.
1. Pat
2. Lamar
3. Allen
4. Burrow
EASY
3.Rodgers 4.Burrow 😴
@@MaarSRT I’d prob put burrow over Allen just bc he made the Super Bowl and his LSU career but everything else spot on💯
Burrow isn’t top 5, he’s a mid injury prone qb with elite WRs. People give him way to much credit for going to a superbowl that he didn’t even win.
Allen at #2
Joe Burrow : 14,083 pass yds 97 tds 37 ints 68% / 605 rushing yds 10 tds
29 -22 - 1 (1×probowl) 0 rings
LAMAR JACKSON 15887 passing yds 125 passing tds 45 ints 64.5 % / 5258 rush yds 29 tds 58 -19 record (3×probowl, 2×all pro, 2×mvp) 0 rings
Lamar owns burrow … 4-1 and he owns the bengals 8-2 ….
Thank you!
As much as I love lamar I have him as the 3rd best behind Allen, Josh been going crazy these past 3 seasons just has to stop throwing ints
@@oaklandtraphousewe need to see what Allen does without an elite wr. Since Diggs joined Allen has been going crazy.
@@Talik7278-1
Why is this even a topic? One is a 2x MVP.. the other is an injury prone Slim Shady Impersonator… what TF are we talking about!!?
2 mvp was a joke , Lamar was a game manager with some flash plays. It was a team award
@@soda8736 you're a joke...
One been to a superbowl and one hasn’t! One can run real good but can’t pass in crunch time the other can take 10 sacks and still win the game!
Football aside , Joe has leaned into his Joe Sheisty persona a little too far. I rocked with Bureaux who kept it cool when they were doing the get the gat song and he just puffed his stogie.
@@Kelvin-k8n Burrow fans love to glorify a player that LOST a SB. They love giving out PARTICIPATION awards! Lol Grown men don't give or care about PARTICIPATION awards, save that for the kids. This is the NFL. Burrow is an injury/bad season away of being your average overrated yt QB.
The disrespect for Lamar is insane.
Totally. Saying he may be the 3rd best QB in the world instead of the 2nd is SOOO disrespectful... Grow up.
@@ronknapkee5019 "SOOO disrespectful"
You are telling me to grow up 😂😂😂
@@doctorkhumalo7730 If you think someone disagreeing with you is disrespectful, then yes, you need to grow up.
I just don't get why they always bring up that Joe been to a super bowl and lost btw, if we going on that knowledge why isn't Jalen hurts ain't up there 😭😭😭
@@Zotiy facts and I'm a ravens fan
Hurts missed the playoffs last season while healthy . And uh had the eagles had the biggest collapse in history
@@jtbear77 and how many times joe been out for the season, I'm just saying they always bring up a super bowl that happened 2years ago. If Joe don't get it done this year the window finna be small
@@Zotiy that’s what you think 🤣 Burrow put on 15lbs of muscle he won’t have a significant injury for a while bud . I can say the same thing for Lamar but is window has always been closed same for Allen . Joe only focused on Mahomes and winning a championship for Cincinnati . It’s inevitable
@@jtbear77 just hope he can because Ja'marr Chase and tee Higgins not finna be together forever gotta get it done now 🤣😭
Lamar Jackson Winning His Third MVP And Ravens Winning The Superbowl
🤞🏾💙🖤🐦⬛💯
the nfl wont give him another mvp till he wins a superbowl he could have the best stats next year n record but it wont matter. at this point he just has to go win a sb, now if he wins the sb next year lets say then the year after that hed prob be the favorite to win an mvp but till he gets the job done they wont allow him to win another one
@@AnthonyMercado-1988They are stacked in the run game. Decent in passing game. Most QBs have a true world class WR1. Ravens have a lot of good WR2 and an elite TE who's injured. It will still be a struggle passing late in games so long as they don't pull the trigger on a WR1 ranked in the top 15. But we shall see. They do look unbeatable with Henry 😂
@@AnthonyMercado-1988the team is not stacked. Lamar is so great you think the team is stacked. The o-line is trash and Lamar’s best weapon is a second year zay flowers. If Lamar wins a SB it will be inspite of his GM and Head coach.
MVP probably. They just give it to him because he's black at this point
LJ not even a question! Burrow has the same amount of rings as Lamar but Lamar has 2 MVP’s 😂. And stop saying you love someone then disrespect them the very next sentence
its 3&8, 4th quarter in the playoffs u need a QB to get a crucial first down.. u picking Lamar over Burrow???
@@fyilando854 Didn't know game were one down lol
@@truzzprod.8191 Bro who you taking on a 2 minute drive & you need to score??? Lamar or Burrow?? Com on be honest dont be scared
@@fyilando854 Lamar , especially if he has Jamar Chase & Tee Higgins
Kimberly's only reasoning that Joe Burrow should be the second best QB in the league is that he went to the Superbowl 3 years ago? If that's the case why don't we rank the guy that won that Superbowl (Matthew Stafford) in the top 2? What about Jalen Hurts who has been to a Superbowl more recently than Burrow? Or how about Brock Purdy? If all it takes to be the second best QB is losing in the Superbowl we have some people who have done that more recently than Burrow and had better games in the Superbowl. Plus the other guys have been healthy Burrow has been in the league four seasons and already had two season ending injuries the truth is people put Burrow on this pedestal because he "beat Mahomes" but quarterbacks dont play each other because if that was the case Lamar is 4-1 vs Joe Burrow and we wouldn't be debating whose better between the two, the standard changes for Burrow magically.
Amen brother. Preach your knowledge.
@@Cartierhendrix_ 2 years go actually . Smart one . And uh cause he had a cool name , throws accurately , poised , swagger , and has changed the franchise which the media was wrong about him saying they’d ruin his career . Y’all must have forgot what all the media was saying if Burrow gets drafted to the Bengals .
“Ahh they’ll ruin his career”
“Ahh boycott”
“Bengals are a horrible franchise , they aren’t gonna do right with Joe”
The media was terribly wrong . And in his first full season he had a magical run to the sb while doing so beating Mahomes to get there . And second season he was seconds away to going to back to SBs if it wasn’t for that controversial call. Mane y’all gonna have to respect that boy Burrow . Talking mad crazy . and in his 4th season ahh season ending injury .
@@Cartierhendrix_ I wonder what’s in store for him and in his team this season . I guarantee afc chip and a easy afc north title . Must’ve forgot
@@jtbear77 When Lamar's healthy he's never won the north
@@Cartierhendrix_ Burrow owns the north
The Lamar disrespect needs to stop! 🤦♀️
He was gifted an mvp with game manager numbers
it's not disrespectful to say he's a playoff choker (it's reality) and I'm not even talking about his playoff record. he has a 75 passer rating in his playoff career.
The overhyping of your 2 time mvp but only has 2 playoff wins in his career NEEDS TOO STOP.
@@TripleG12398when I said I see you everywhere, I meant it
@@RAZZPR0D I haven't been on the internet in multiple days (until now)😂but nice try
Sorry Kimberley, but when ranking QBs saying "he made it to a Super Bowl" is a poor argument. Eli Manning won 2 Super Bowls, and I don't think he was ever considered better than Drew Brees, Rodgers, and you can make a serious argument for Philip Rivers. It's not like Lamar is letting his team down every time. Even after Brady's first 2 Super Bowls, it was obvious Peyton was the better QB.
i mean, lamar has largely been letting them down in the playoffs. he's been bad in all their losses
@@MDK384 the coaching let them down, not lamar...
Joe is the reason they made it to the super bowl Eli wasn’t the reason giants won
@@marlonbrando33 that’s a separate argument.
@@MDK384Yes it's Lamar fault that the #1 rushing team decided to not run the ball in the AFC championship game.
People like burrow because again he looks the part let’s be honest imagine what Lamar could do with 2 number 1 receivers
Burrow always have weapons Lamar has done more with less
@jeanpaul7223 THANK YOU!!!
Give burrow last years ravens team and he doesn’t choke like Lamar does
@@jeanpaul7223lies ravens had a historic defense that carried Lamar to a MVP(cause he didn't deserve it)
@@archer5834 and you know this how? Give most people that team nd the team isn’t that good burrow has always had top flight weapons around him we dont kno what he’d do without it
The fact that ppl act like this is a debate is hilarious. Lamar just won his 2nd MVP and was 1 game away from the Super Bowl. Meanwhile Burrow is still living off a victory over Mahomes that happened 3 years ago. What are we doing man😂
Forget what Kim is saying, when it comes to a professional athlete you have to look at the consistent performance year after year. In football it takes a whole team to win a championship
lamar literally owns burrow but ok😂🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
& everyone owns Lamar in the postseason. Just stop
@@BonySopraneauxlike who??
In the regular season sure
@@BonySopraneaux Patrick Owns Josh WTF are you talking about 😕
@@LavxbesdolpA Tannehill & Rivers just to name a few 🥴
Lamar is the second best QB in the league, let's cut this out.
In the regular season
My boy hitting those drugs early 😂. Lamar top5. No 1 regular season qb
Is he??? He was tied for 15th in passing TDs and wasn't even top 15 in passing yards 😂
@vidi2845 people now a days don't know what an elite qb is. Lamar is more ofva game manager who team wins because of the entire team. His numbers are game manager numbers.
@vidi2845 passing yards is a volume stats he throws considerably less than most of the other starters because his presence always ensures that his team will be one of if not the best rushing teams in the league. If your counter argument is based on counting stats as opposed to actually watching the games there's no discussion to be had. Lamar's impact is undeniable
It’s so refreshing seeing SAS show some competence instead yelling nonsense in the camera, Lamar def the best after mahomes
It's Mahomes and everyone elese. The other qbs are all fighting for second. Lamars bad playoff performances eliminate him from bring 2 and his medicore numbers , his a game manger who makes some flash plays
@@soda8736😂😂 troll
@@soda8736no fight , Lamar is clearly 3
SAS said it perfectly without disrespecting anybody else
I think we are gonna see. If Lamar does beat Pat and wins a SB there is no more argument. No more BS. Nobody can say anything.
They will move the goalpost. He will win and then it will be Lamar has to win multiple SB Games.
@@AskMeWhyFDI Lol I hope not.
@@AskMeWhyFDIhe not beating mahomes..cant throw
That has to happen first. Patty be kicking Lamar and Josh Allen nem ahhs. Burrow the ONLY one that has beaten Patty in the playoffs. That’s why Joe better 😂
@@t_will348 I think Joe is better too but a lot of people don't.
“He only lost by three points” it doesn’t matter the bengals still lost and have never won a Super Bowl
Yeah, and Lamar is 2-4 in the playoffs and Burrow is 5-2. Lamar loses and Burrow wins in the postseason.
@@bluesky7333 didn’t win that superbowl 😂
@@bluesky7333 Lamar gets the 1st seed so ge's not gonna get the chance to pad his playoff record like burrow he's 1-1 in the wc matchup so let's tell the whole truth
Lamar has never step foot in the big game
@@truzzprod.8191 Burrow is 5-2 in postseason. Lamar 2-4. Lamar has 9 total td's and 8 turnovers in 6 games. Not good enough. Stop making excuses for the man. It's always this or that. Bottom line, he is not a winner in the postseason. Not debateable.
Lamar Jackson has also not finished 2 seasons just like Joe Burrow.
He did in 2019 and 2023 that’s literally 2 seasons …..
And yet Lamar has 2 MVP's..... Where are the Burrow MVP's again?
@@NemoRackkz Burrow's won more games on the road in the playoffs than Lamar won period. 5-2 in the playoffs vs 2-4 in the playoffs. You want to talk about teams, well, the Ravens seem to have Burrow's number, but that doesn't mean Jackson's a better QB. When you really have to win, he can. I'm eager to see what Burrow does after a healthy training camp with a revamped line this season.
Jackson has a great record because of a historically great team defense. Lamar doesn't show up in playoffs because playoff teams are good. Lamar and Ravens get a good record for beating the teams they're supposed to beat. Playoffs teams know how to stop Lamar. When Burrow is healthy (2 out of 4 years in league) he's been to AFCCG twice and went to the super bowl. Lamar chokes in big games. That's a fact. Lamar can be the greatest regular season QB. No one plays football for the regular season.
How’s burrow doing this year I’m curious?
@@justinbellamy1399 Is this the Justin Bellamy that I went to school with?
So if were going by losing Superbowls, Goeff, Jimmy G, Hurts, Kaepernick, Ryan, all of these guys are better than. Where does that make sense!?? Losing is losing. That means Jim Kelly is top 5 because he lost 4 Superbowls.... anybody can get hot once, but what about being consistent?? Too much credit for losing.
so if were going by consistent jimy g brock purdy better than allen and lamar bc there consistenly in the final 4
Lamar is the best RB in the league now doubt. Stop pretending he’s better than Joey B.
Molly stay disrespecting Lamar arm.
Lamar is the highest rated intermediate passer.
The highest rated passer with more than 2 sec.
The most perfect passer rating games in the league and only trails by 1 for the all time record.
Lead the league in TD passes his second year.
It’s like ppl completely over look how efficient Lamar is a passer.
@@Finnissee0122 he never throws. He has thrown for 3k 2 times in 6 years. That is God aweful for a passer. Lamar is a rb with decent arm talent
Doesn't even have a 3800 yard season he's overrated
@@Finnissee0122 bro in the game against HOU Lamar was historic throwing for 2TD and rushing for 2 while having a Qbr over 100 and 100 rushing yards
@@TjFreely2 different type of offense not his fault and last year he won the MVP with Mark Andrews and his top RB went down and had no one to go over 1000 yards.
It’s insane that Molly literally asked SAS a question and then answered it also 😭😂
😂😂
Lamar Jackson may not have had the same caliber of weapons as Joe Burrow, but Lamar Jackson has had the best record in the nfl 2x with those weapons. So they were good enough, but Lamar’s play ALWAYS takes a step back in the playoffs. It’s like clockwork. If he played to the standard he set in the regular season the ravens would’ve been superbowl champions by now
What did those weapons do in the playoffs? It’s always he had help compared to guys who had hella help
Do you think the playoffs is better teams ? Better coached?
Cuz the ravens play the weirdest style of offense in the league and it don't work in the playoffs when defenses are locked in planning for it. The ravens be catching ppl off guard with that gimmick shtt
Cuz coaching takes a step back in the playoffs. I've watched every game since Lamar has been the QB and aside from his rookie year, every time the Ravens get to the playoffs they do the opposite of what got them there in the first place.
Wake up fam, when in today's sports does being number 1 in the REGULAR SEASON mattered? U win with top notch talent PERIOD. Baltimore has never in the HISTORY of the franchise had a Jamar Chase player, EVER. Case closed.
Burrow is 5-2 in postseason and 1-1 in AFC Championship. Burrow beat MAHOMES in his 2nd year for AFC Championship. Lamar is 2-4 in postseason and 0-1 in AFC Championship. Not many can say they beat Mahomes in the AFC Championship. Easy decision for me. The better passer and more clutch player in postseason is Burrow. Regular season doesn't matter in postseason. It is a new season.
2:37 Haha Stephen A’s on his phone during the debate? 😂
Most people keep their notes on their phone nowadays. He was probably just reading through his notes
That’s why this year is important if both players are healthy the winner of the division this year is the better QB.
Not hard to disagree with k Martin and in this case it’s really easy
Burrow is a much better passer. Lamar is a much better runner. Lamar wins MVP's because of great running and mediocre passing. One of the two styles has proven to win it all. The better passer is who I want in the postseason. I'd pick Joe Burrow. He has proven to be a champion in college and took the Bengals to the SB. His playoff record is 5-2. Lamar has 2-4 record with awful stats in postseason.
To me, this is a very easy decision. You pick the better passer of the two, that is Joe Burrow. If I was choosing from Mahomes and Lamar, I'd go with the better passer- Mahomes.
Joe Burrow better than Lamar Jackson
In what world?
I love Molly! "It's Joe Burrow, because he can throw the ball" 🤣😂🤣😂😂
With the game on the line yal pick burrow? Then stop saying Lamar is better. He's not
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Lamar is above burrow, and the simplest way to put it is this:
Both good regular season qbs but Lamar has the accolades(fully aware his second mvp was extremely mediocre stat wise)
When it comes to playoffs both suck, Lamar performs poorly and so does burrow. only difference is burrow has better weapons offensively and a better coaching staff that helped him squeak by the chiefs once just to get smacked in the bowl.
did molly just ask and answer her own question?
molly been really hating on lamar lately...
yes, that was kind of disrespectful how she did it as well
😂😂
I'm taking a healthy jor borrow over LJ
Joe is a mere 29-22(average Joe)
Lamar is a whopping 58-19(Hall of Fame pace). Oh yeah, Joe is a pitiful 1-4 vs Lamar. Lamar is only QB in history to throw 400 yards and 85% completion. Lamar is 1 of 3 QBs to have 3 perfect ratings.
I was waiting for you miserable man 😂😂😂
What’s it all for if he can’t win the games that matter?
@@aaronbutler9373 Almosy sounds like you're making a case fot Dak. 🤣
@@aaronbutler9373 all this just to choke with that crazy defense he always has smh how does he forget how to score in the post season? Post his post season numbers
@@aaronbutler9373 2-6
6 touchdowns 6 INTS with a passer rating of 75.7 that’s the stats we want to hear
Lamar is so good he hasnt had the privelage of beating up on bad teams in wildcard round because Lamar gets his team a bye so his stats arent padded like other QBS.
Burrow. I can’t wait for Joe to shut up the naysayers this season.
He won't last through the season
@@guyfromnewark 🧢
He'll shut us up for 4 games then get hurt again.
@@getmoney3806 cap
Haha Lamar owns Burrow
Lamar what 6-2 vs burrow
Burrow 29-22-1
Lamar 58-19
Don’t give the playoff excuse when burrow played in 2 playoff years and had a bowl run and they lost. Don’t give the injury excuse either when burrow missed more time then Lamar too
She shouldn’t be debating
The last line says it all
Joe burrow is better … he actually beat the chiefs .. and went to the Super Bowl ..
Does he beat Lamar?…. Nope
The comparison is Joe v Lamar slow poke
Do Joe got a ring?
Still hanging on to the one playoff win 3 years ago.
It’s ridiculous bruh
Burrow got to the SB being sacked the most in the league tf are we talking about Beat Pat and Josh at their house
not in the same year, he lossed
Instead of taking Chase, they should have taken Sewell or Slater. Worried about his security blanket in stead of fixing the o line. It's their own fault.
and lost.... what did he do? He lost to Mathew Stafford.... Mathew Stafford by default is better than Joe Burrow simply due to that fact.
Joe had the best Wr core + prime Mixon.
Burrow gets sacked more than Lamar Patty Lamar & Josh because he’s too quarterbacky…
@@NemoRackkzLet’s be real. He lost to Aaron Donald because the Bengals had the worst offensive line in Super Bowl history.
Lamar is my guy I love how he plays 2 time MVP yes I know his playoff record is 2-4 but I still believe he can win the superbowl
The Bengals were better than the Ravens one year, but Burrow hasn't ever been a better player than Lamar Jackson individually. Win an mvp or two or a championship game or something, and then come back and discuss.
@@jeremiahw1369 and be honest that 1 year they were better Lamar wasn't present he was hurt 🤷🏿♂️
Even as a team Bengals havent been better than the Ravens.
@@teddy2xs160I can say the same thing when Burrow was hurt this past season haha .😂 you see
@@jtbear77 bruh 29-22-1 could never compare to 58-19 convo dead and don't speak on playoff wins if he ain't come out wit a ring so them shits don't matter
basically what people be saying is , beating mahomes in the playoffs 3 years ago > 2 MVPs…sound ridiculous
no excuse for 2-4 in the playoffs we gotta be better so its not a bad take to give burrow the nod but also look at the fact that lamar is 4-1 vs burrow. 2 MVPS to his none with less talent. And this misconception that these other qbs throw “better” is getting out of hand, they just throw MORE because they can’t do what LJ can, and people have been using this since LJ got in the nfl but watch the film. Btw they’re both 27 but Lamar is younger 😭 so cmon now. He is the 2nd best behind mahomes.
What Superbowl has burrow won?
The Ravens had 6 all-pro's last year. The Bengals have had 2 in Burrow's whole career. The idea lamar is playing with less talent is absurd
@@MDK384 c'mon man...
Number 1
@@MDK384 that's crazy😂😂😂
It’s funny the Burrow naysayers keep saying that his defense carried him to a Super Bowl. The Bengals defense hasn’t even been ranked top 15 since he’s been in the league. If that’s the argument, how do you explain Lamar not making the Super Bowl with a consistently top 5 ranked defense? Wouldn’t that still make Lamar worse? Last year they were ranked #1 and he still couldn’t do it.
Lamar has a way better supporting cast on ALL positions . Disclosing wr😅 but had many all pros and bro bowlers on his team and yet still can win when it counts . Seems like a loser to me . Give Burrow a top 5/10 defense every season .😮 Lamar has everything at his disposal and chokes chokes chokes
@@jtbear77 Burrow spent 4+ years playing in Zac Taylor's offense. Lamar spent four years playing in Greg Roman's offense. It's night and day when it comes to the passing scheme and passing development.
@@segagenesis7708 what about skill positions for both bengals and ravens mhm ? And also it’s not a passing the ball scheme for Lamar but yet y’all complaining he has no wrs. Ravens aren’t a pass first offense. Lamars team in totality all the skill position players are more talented except Bengals wr took is of the best in the league . You wanna bring up head coaches 😂 Lamar has a top 5 coach every year in Jim harbaugh . He has way more help than Burrow
Burrow is wayyy better than Lamar. LAMAR CANT BEAT MAHOMES. And definitely can’t win big games
@MohamedDiallo-c5k and somehow he can't beat who Burrow beats lol. Sit back and learn fool
Lamar beat Mahomes in 2020
@@itsmeDoug02 no he didn't
Lamar is 4-1 vs Burrow
@@ParadoxicalUnitybro burrow stats against the chiefs are mid asf burrow defense carries
Personally i like lamar but im go with joe because he did beat patrick mahomes
2nd best QB and the game plan should be to run the ball more. Hmm🤔
The Chiefs shut down everybody’s passing game.
The Lamar fans boys don't understand they contradict themselves
They ran the ball 6 times. You mfs are dumb
so running the ball 6 times is sufficient, stfu...
@@soda8736 just by your comment already know you’re another beta male who barely watches sports. By that logic, you’re another Joe Burrow fanboy 100%. You’re the type of clown that keeps making excuses. And not only that but Joe Burrow kept getting injured. You guys said nothing Lamar barely even got injured and you and you guys call him injury prone yet Joe Burrow you touch him and he breaks like glass. He has never been healthy. Just admit you don’t like black players versus the white ones and we can move forward after that. And trust me I already know you’re not black. Have a good day.
Molly asking, “game on the line who would you rather have?“ in these discussions doesn’t make sense. It’s a totally different question.
It's crazy right?! Game on the line, 1min to go, some might choose rodgers over brady and that just doesn't mean rodgers is better than brady
Lamar melts under pressure like an ice cream sandwich 🙄😂
No play makers like Joe has you all never mention the teammates Joe has but as they start to leave we will see how good he really is
And burrow melts under Lamar 😂
All we learned last year is that every QB in the NFL melts under Lamar Jackson other than mahomes. 😂 So that makes him number 2! Literally no QB beat mahomes in the playoffs!!! And every QB got OBLITTERATED by Lamar during the season and the playoffs. Had Lamar been in the NFC. The super bowl would have been Lamar vs mahomes. We all know this to be true!
JOE BURROW TOOK THE WORST TEAM IN THE NFL TO A SUPER BOWL... The Bengals had the 1st Pick in that draft for a reason... Yes... the Bengals are talented... NOW!!! But they weren't when they first drafted him. They had potential... and Burrow got them there. The Baltimore Ravens... the KC Chiefs... these teams were good BEFORE MAHOMES AND JACKSON got there. Neither of them had to deal with the same level of adversity that Burrow has over the course of his time with the NFL.
Give me Burrow everyday of the week…
Wrong 😂
Keep him. Lamar beats the breaks off him on the regular. The only way Joey beats him is when he plays him and Lamar has 15 players on IR. If Joe gets credit for owning Mahomes, Lamar gets the same credit for owning Joe. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best.
@@AskMeWhyFDIMaybe because the ravens are better than the Bengals?
@@deonterectorshow me the ravens 3 number 1 receivers or even a receiver with 1000 yards
@@keymold4405 Boyd ain't a number 1 receiver.
Just because Joe Burrow has better receivers doesn't mean his team is better.
The ravens had more players in the top 100 rankings than any other team not including the 49ers.
Ravens is like the early 2000's patriots and Steelers teams
Bengals are like the early 2000's colts but with a bad Offensive line.
Stephen A contradicted himself with the game on the line I picked Joe burrow. Joe burrow is the second best that's why you pick him.
Lamar is the 2nd best QB in the League 💯🔥 #Ravensflock
I agree
Why do people blame the OC for not running in the AFC Championship? What didn’t Lamar the leader stand up and say we are running the ball. You think Peyton, Brady, or any great leader just go along if they disagree as a game is slipping away. Do they not at points will their teams to victory as great leaders? Last year was Lamar’s best chance to stand up and say I’m Here. And he didn’t.
What the record between the two...say less😂😂😂
whats Lamar playoff record vs Burrow playoff record…
@@fyilando854and the Bengals have NO rings.....ever....😂😂
There’s many teams that don’t have no championships 🤣 when the last time the ravens been to a bowl ?
@@jtbear77 2012...and they WON....2-0 in Superbowls. Bengals 0-4
@@raynmaker629 yea we’ve been to more sbs . Joe Flacco is better than Lamar . And uh Lamar as NEVER been to a sb considering he’s been playing since 2019 . He has no team accomplishments at all . Zero , nadah. He’s has two self deserving awards to himself . Burrow has set the bar high for Cincinnati and has actually performed in the playoffs and wins . Has broken many records for the Bengals and uh will win a SB this season or def next soo I hope you enjoy the show
Damien Woody knocking Burrow for not staying healthy doesn't make sense when Lamar had season ending injuries 2 of the last 3 years. And then saying you can't hold losing to Mahomes against Lamar cause Mahomes is a god.... ok and Burrow beat the god and Lamar didn't. Again he is making the point for Burrow
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And Burrow has missed more time than Lamar
They keep talking about the fumble but what about that pick into triple coverage?
Lamars a beast but its the same excuses every year
The gameplan suck and Lamar has to win spite of harbaugh
That was pass interference.
You mean the clear pass interference that wasn’t called?
@Aneeshtherave appreciate you proving my point lol
Go watch the tape and you can easily see Likely getting hit before the ball gets there. It is one of the worst calls in the game.
She Just Has A Attitude And Runs Her Mouth Joe Burrow Ain’t Won A Super Bowl SO EXCUSES FOR JOE BUT CANT HAVE EXCUSES FOR LAMAR
Too many excuses for Lamar.
You have 2 number 1 wide outs and yall still lose to us.... you mfs suck....
When you have to succeed despite playing in the worst passing scheme in the league, that's not an excuse. Greg Roman's offense has never produced a top passing offense or developed a high quality WR. Put Burrow, Allen, anybody in that offense and we'll never hear the end of how much the coaching is failing their passing development. Thank God for Todd Monken.
That last point about game on the line is factual. No way you pick lamar in that situation.
Worked out pretty good for the Ravens last year against the Rams
If the men on the panel were cutting Kimberly off and being as condescending as she is. People would be going crazy!
Sick of these people giving praise to dudes who ain’t even win an MVP while Lamar has two
Second 1 was a joke. Media contrived that award for Lamar. Mvp is stat and wins award, he had the wins , not the stats
@@soda8736so why was he 1st team all pro then lol ?
@@soda8736 I’ll agree cuz I thought the same but two is still two and even if it was one that’s still more tho the QBs whole get pushed ahead of him besides Mahomes
@@Finnissee0122 because people don't know how to evaluate qb any more, they think it's all about flash plays
Affirmative action MVPs don't count my guy. Can't have the best oline best D and best run game in the leauge (both times ) and think MVP means something. He got them shits (especially the 2nd one ) for different reasons. And everyone knows it
Lamar can’t beat the best QB in the league 😂🤦🏻♂️. He’s 2-4 in the playoffs
Burrow is 5-2 in the playoffs in less time & he’s gotten to a SB
Speak on it
@@jtbear77 like how is this even an arguement
Lamar is great… but his team can’t beat good teams. Burrow plays a style that can beat good teams.
If they both are healthy and had the same roster around them….Burrow wins everytime. It’s a team game at the end of the day. Burrow plays the better team ball.
Well when healthy burrow barely ever beats Lamar nd he has two 1s at receiver to make life easy
Facts
That’s completely false .. because burrow literally had prolly the best WR trio everytime they’ve played.. Lamar never had that.. but yet Lamar 4-1 against Joe
@@nevillecoley4976 And the worst offensive line in football. If Burrow had the line Lamar has had, he could have high school receivers and win in the NFL.
@@jakenbake9878 but he didn’t have high school receivers he has 2 numbers 1that help to make his job extremely easy even without a good oline
Woody just had four qb’s ahead of him. He says he couldn’t throw from the pocket. What?
I’m crying borrow Lamar owns him omg who cares if u make Super Bowl u ain’t win it
Atleast they’ve had a chance. Lamar is literally a playoff choker. Every single one of his stats does down the drain the moment the playoffs arrive. He’s not that guy. Yk it’s a problem when CJ Stroud and Jordan Love have half the playoff wins as him already after 1 year of starting.
Exactly he get alot of credit for a “got to the Super Bowl ring”
@@sakthithanigai5036true and they both have no rings which one is better none or none?
@@nevillecoley4976 Joe Burrow’s 1 SB appearance >>> Lamar’s 0
@@nevillecoley4976 ur logic is flawed that’s like saying if ur not gonna make the SB you might as well not make the playoffs. Like what’s the difference between Baker Mayfield and Lamar Jackson. What’s better none or none
What does John do exactly again?
Here they go making excuses for Lamar again. If he was such a good passer why did the Ravens go out and get Derrick Henry. And watch Hollywood Brown put up numbers this year with a real QB.
He isn’t an elite passer but he is much improved. He will always be better at running and that is why the Ravens are a run first team. They got Henry because all their running backs kept getting injured. Henry has been one of the most durable and productive running backs in the nfl.
😂They literally hate on Lamar every show, what excuses. Boy shut up.
Ahh i get it so when the patriots had Brady and held a top running game every year that was because his passing was very subpar thanks for the insight
Any and every team that has a chance to sign derrick henry will sign him even the chiefs you have no argument and a big reason why they lost the afc last year was because of a fumble by zay flowers
The most protected QBs in the league are Jackson, Allen, and Tua we’re about to see another year of Ravens hype just so they can melt in the playoffs….the ravens could go 17-0 and I would still bet them to not reach the Super Bowl
All it comes to rn is who was closer to a Super Bowl and that’s Burrow
Please get kim off tv
Joe burrow has been to the superbowl
Lamar isn't even top 5 right now.
He’s talking about how good Lamar is passing and they steady showing him running the ball lmao🤣
I play a game with Stephen A. The first time he says the word “mercurial”, I stop listening. Never fails.
Burrow is not better than Jackson. Is not even close
Idiotic
Why does Molly always sound so annoyed when someone is giving Lamar credit lmao
SA said all that just to agree with her at the very end😂
With her logic, Jalen Hurts is better than Lamar. He been to the Bowl, AND he played better than Burrow did..
Is Hurts better than Lamar? NO
It’s amazing how Burrow missing all these games doesn’t matter, because God knows they cared when it was Lamar..
Burrow has ZERO MVPs…
Lamar > Burrow
I have Burrow 3rd imo
How can joe burrow be ahead of lamar jackson? He has jamar chase and tee higgins and had a legit RB!
Even on that playoff run, the bengals forced like 13 turnovers and shut teams down in the second half! The defense won most of burrows playoff games anyways! They beat the titans 19-16 because Tannehill inexplicably threw 3 picks!
They beat the Ravens backup QB because he fumbled the ball on the goal line and the bengals defense ran it back 99 yards!
Lamar Jacksons first playoff list shouldn’t even count! The second one they had about 6 drops and gave up like 200 yards on the ground to derek henry! He still had 500 total yards in defeat!
This past year, if flowers doesn’t fumble the ball at the goal line, the ravens win!
lol people love to point out how “bad” Lamar’s receivers are but forget to mention he always has a top 5 defense and a top rated run game (which means a good line to throw behind) - the reason burrow has been hurt so much is the horrible O lines year after year - not to mention JB is a more accurate passer and has higher QB ratings than Lamar has ever had
So give Jackson all the credit and none of the blame? Jackson was great last year. 3 years prior, average. He won MVP in 2019. So the base for Jackson is MVP 2x and can't do anything in the playoffs. Why doesn't he get that James hate for it?
I guess Damien Woody change his mind because l’m remember him saying about a month ago that Lamar wasn’t even in his top 5 QB list.