Feel like theo is the only one who understood what a "breakthrough season" is. The other two were just naming who they thought would be great signings. You can't have a breakthrough season if you're not quite literally "breaking through" into the first team.
totally agree with theo, breakthrough season is for young players who have been in prem academies or who have come from other leagues and who haven't had much top tier experience, everyone knows the quality of diaby as hes played some games for France and has been in the last 2 bundersliga team of the seasons, common tom and reev L
Arsenal & some other top team were linked with him. Like how when he puts the harland & messy points forward then no it doesn't apply because they're special. Load of nonsense
It's not really Theo's list. And it's not the point of the assignment to just pick the 6 most promising youngsters. If Antony gets 20 GA next season, that's his breakthrough season.
I don't think you can have new signings (from a different league) and call them premiere league breakthru.. A breakthru is someone who's already gotten their feet wet IN THE league but NOW are fulfilling their potential. SO as an example-- Haaland didn't have a break thru season last season. But if (as an example) Richarlison now take Kane's spot and scores 35 (or something) THAT would be Richarlisons break thru season (at least in a Spurs shirt)
if that pigeon scored 35 goals in the prem then it would be the craziest thing to happen in the prem since leicester won the league haha nar I know it's just an example but what a crazy one 🤣
Im with theo. This should have been guys making their top flight breakthroughs not a guy like Moussa Diaby who has been the best player on Leverkusen for 4 years
And googling "most promising youngsters" is great? For people who might not even get to play. Evan Ferguson and Enciso would have made more sense than his shouts. The assignment was not to pick "players who might play most minutes this season than last". You can argue it's not a breakthrough when people have known about the players being talented for years so no one ever has a breakthrough
@@clauslarsen8971 evan ferguson and enciso would not be better shouts because they had their breakthrough seasons last season lol. I feel as though loads of people in this comment section are fundamentally misunderstanding what a breakthrough season is. Its when a young player quite literally "breaks through" into the first team from the academy/u21's/reserves or what have you. Evan ferguson and enciso broke though into brighton's first team last season and so can't have another breakthrough season.
@@satiricalhaz-homeofbanter4371 it's literally not. Some people have their breakout season way later. Like Vardy and Kante. You lot don't have functioning brains
Simply moving to a new league doesn't make it a breakthrough season. It's about finding relatively unknowns, that were not seen last season or were overlooked, but by the end of this season are constantly recognised when having conversations around football. Haaland didn't 'Breakthrough' last season, but Akanji did, because he was seen completely differently by the community based on his performances over the season. Young players dominate these lists, mainly because they're the least known quantities by the general football fan, so expectations are low and evidence is lacking.
I agree with almost all of your statement but I’d say Akanji was playing at the same level as haaland at Dortmund then came to city and improved I think a better analogy would be Mitoma
Agreeing with Theo on this one. 'Breaking through' is literally for players who havent showcased their talent at all before. Not necessarily young players, but you can't have an established veteran from another league have a 'break through' again when they join the Prem. Thats just a seasoned pro still playing well...
Theo is the only one who understands what breakthrough is. The others are giving a league Rookie award. Breakthrough is when a player graduates fro. a bit part role / youth team to be a key player / regular.
Theo actually making sense this time. Reev had a best new signings list. Diaby, Timber and Jackson HAD their breakthrough seasons, that’s why they have been signed on multi million pound deals. A breakthrough is a player breaking through and becoming a first team player!
Josko Gvardiol top 5 Cb in the world last season (statistically) but his not his not a established player this is his breakthrough year. The Theo hate is unreal with these guys
What fucking stats are you looking at mate? Did you watch a single minute of him outside the World Cup? He wasn't even top 10 in the Bundesliga for CBs. Sclotterbeck was clear in pretty much every single stat except dribbles.
kobbie mainoo was absolutely fantastic for manu this pre season. if hes not injured for too long he could defo establish himself in the prem this year.
Wtf are Reev are Tom on? It's not best transfers, it's breakthrough as in he'll breakthrough and establish himself in football. For once, Theo actually done the task right lmao
Normally don’t agree with Theo but to say Diaby who cost 50 mil is going to be a breakthrough player just because it’s in the prem is a reach his price means he’s going to be starter and probably they’re star player next season
Thoughts on my FPL team? Ederson Estupian Schar Pedro Porto Saka Mudryk Mitoma Diaby Harry Wilson/Joao Pedro Nunez Isak Had 4th puck thinking Kane is leaving
For once I have to agree with Theo. A breakthrough season is literally someone whose capacity is relatively unknown to most and no one expects them to have an impact but they do. Like garnacho last season. A star signing who is an international player and has had multiple seasons in a top 5 league can never be considered as a breakthrough player. The changing of the goal posts after Theos comment on messi also doesn't make sense if a player gets a sudden increase in GA like salah did at liverpool that isn't a breakthrough that's a standout cause that is when a player really sets themselves apart from the rest
Finally one of them mentioning a Burnley player considering they all have them mid table in predictions there must be at least 3 or 4 Burnley players that step up. Think Manuel benson would’ve been a better shout tho tbh
Theo is right. It’s essentially arguing Erling was a breakthrough player last season. We already knew how good he was and his potential regardless of where he “broke through.” You can argue a person can only break though once, breaking through in another league and then performing in another league means you’re merely a consistent player. In this sense break through definitely means breaking through into the first team and becoming a week in and week out, recognized player. All of the players on Reevs list have been purchased to be starters and already broken through as they wouldn’t have got the transfers then?
Breakthrough by definition means sudden & dramatic rise. It doesn't therfore have to be someone never played PL e.g. youngsters or someone established from other league like Diaby/Haland. Considering Mudryk was massively underwhelming last season and Jackson is fairly unknown entity, they both are good shout for the prospective list of Breakthrough players.
Nah reev needs to shut up usually I agree with Tom but Theo is right breakthrough isn’t players that have played 100 plus professional games it’s young guys who have come up through the system
My results for the first games on super 6 are Brighton 3-0 Luton Everton 1-2 Fulham Bournemouth 1-2 West Ham Newcastle 2-2 villa Chelsea 2-2 Liverpool Brentford 1-2 Tottenham
If the given task was “premier league breakthrough” Tom and Reev list make total sense and I don’t think the comments realize that. Theo had a good list as well but a player like Diaby who’s only 24 can 100% have a breakthrough in the Prem or he could flop depends on expectations
Why's Theo pretending he doesn't understand what a breakthrough can be when a month ago he had konate and Diego Carlos as a centre back partnership in a breakthrough 11 ...
We'll ignore that horrendous Ben Dovar bit but Ben Doak is unreal, dont think I've ever seen a 17 year old fly past defenders this easily and this regularly
Having Moussa Diaby who is a full fledged French international and champions league starter with multuple seasons of 10+ goals AND assists as a breakthrough is one of the worst takes I've ever seen on this channel. Might as well say Gvardiol, Szoboslai, Onana, Nkunku, and Tonali are "breaking through." Like wtf
Tom and reev laughing at Theo like he’s the idiot💀 Theo is the only one who understood the assignment
Feel like theo is the only one who understood what a "breakthrough season" is. The other two were just naming who they thought would be great signings. You can't have a breakthrough season if you're not quite literally "breaking through" into the first team.
Yh I’m with you on this
Never thought I'd type the words Theo is 100% right but here we are
totally agree with theo, breakthrough season is for young players who have been in prem academies or who have come from other leagues and who haven't had much top tier experience, everyone knows the quality of diaby as hes played some games for France and has been in the last 2 bundersliga team of the seasons, common tom and reev L
Arsenal & some other top team were linked with him. Like how when he puts the harland & messy points forward then no it doesn't apply because they're special. Load of nonsense
Nah Theo is the only one who actually gave a breakthrough player list. Tom and Reev have just done best transfers basically.
He might have googled it but Theo had the best list.
It's not really Theo's list. And it's not the point of the assignment to just pick the 6 most promising youngsters. If Antony gets 20 GA next season, that's his breakthrough season.
@@clauslarsen8971 no it isn't
@@clauslarsen8971 Antony getting 20 GA 😭🤣
@@rockrooster3878 so my argument makes sense. Perfect
@@satiricalhaz-homeofbanter4371 No it isn't? What are you talking about?
Kobbie Mainoo will be a breakthrough star next season
I hate United and I can't like that he's insane
Mainoo is insane for his age, he already looks able to compete in the prem
Yes sir
Love the Messi joining the league argument, and it clearly worked cause they changed the narrative straight away. Fair play Theo!
I don't think you can have new signings (from a different league) and call them premiere league breakthru.. A breakthru is someone who's already gotten their feet wet IN THE league but NOW are fulfilling their potential. SO as an example-- Haaland didn't have a break thru season last season. But if (as an example) Richarlison now take Kane's spot and scores 35 (or something) THAT would be Richarlisons break thru season (at least in a Spurs shirt)
if that pigeon scored 35 goals in the prem then it would be the craziest thing to happen in the prem since leicester won the league haha nar I know it's just an example but what a crazy one 🤣
Ya, for spurs, but its not a break through, the reason he was signed by Everton, & then does, is because he was good
Im with theo. This should have been guys making their top flight breakthroughs not a guy like Moussa Diaby who has been the best player on Leverkusen for 4 years
This is stupid, Theo is the only one who did this properly (for once). Reev and Tom just named the best transfers of the summer lmao
And googling "most promising youngsters" is great? For people who might not even get to play. Evan Ferguson and Enciso would have made more sense than his shouts. The assignment was not to pick "players who might play most minutes this season than last". You can argue it's not a breakthrough when people have known about the players being talented for years so no one ever has a breakthrough
@@clauslarsen8971 evan ferguson and enciso would not be better shouts because they had their breakthrough seasons last season lol. I feel as though loads of people in this comment section are fundamentally misunderstanding what a breakthrough season is. Its when a young player quite literally "breaks through" into the first team from the academy/u21's/reserves or what have you. Evan ferguson and enciso broke though into brighton's first team last season and so can't have another breakthrough season.
Agree, moussa diaby breakthrough 💀💀
@@jacobdean6989 premier league breakthrough. Learn to read
@@satiricalhaz-homeofbanter4371 it's literally not. Some people have their breakout season way later. Like Vardy and Kante. You lot don't have functioning brains
Ben Doak is a baller he should be on everyone’s list
Oh great another left winger for Liverpool lmao
@@arfank199 hes a right winger?
@@arfank199 he’s a right winger and he’s perfect backup for salah at this stage in his career
1 pre season doesn't automatically make a person on everyone's list of top 6 breakthrou seasons😂
@@morgankeeble3208 that’s what a breakthrough player is? A player who hasn’t got game time before who will breakthrough into the squad
Simply moving to a new league doesn't make it a breakthrough season.
It's about finding relatively unknowns, that were not seen last season or were overlooked, but by the end of this season are constantly recognised when having conversations around football. Haaland didn't 'Breakthrough' last season, but Akanji did, because he was seen completely differently by the community based on his performances over the season.
Young players dominate these lists, mainly because they're the least known quantities by the general football fan, so expectations are low and evidence is lacking.
I agree with almost all of your statement but I’d say Akanji was playing at the same level as haaland at Dortmund then came to city and improved I think a better analogy would be Mitoma
@@Urgedhorse Dortmund fans were happy to see him go because he was 4th choice for them. They couldn’t understand why City wanted him.
Agreeing with Theo on this one.
'Breaking through' is literally for players who havent showcased their talent at all before. Not necessarily young players, but you can't have an established veteran from another league have a 'break through' again when they join the Prem. Thats just a seasoned pro still playing well...
Anais zahoury is good but manual benson is incredible, everyone saying Burnley are going to miss tella but these two can beat a man
Messi is having a breakthrough season in the mls right now
Theo is the only one who understands what breakthrough is. The others are giving a league Rookie award.
Breakthrough is when a player graduates fro. a bit part role / youth team to be a key player / regular.
Breakthrough players = breaking into their careers of 1st team football, not brand new transfers. Pretty common knowledge.
Theo actually making sense this time.
Reev had a best new signings list. Diaby, Timber and Jackson HAD their breakthrough seasons, that’s why they have been signed on multi million pound deals.
A breakthrough is a player breaking through and becoming a first team player!
reev and tom didn"t understand the assignment,they just named their best transfers lol
Love the Notts County mentions :)
Josko Gvardiol top 5 Cb in the world last season (statistically) but his not his not a established player this is his breakthrough year. The Theo hate is unreal with these guys
What fucking stats are you looking at mate? Did you watch a single minute of him outside the World Cup? He wasn't even top 10 in the Bundesliga for CBs. Sclotterbeck was clear in pretty much every single stat except dribbles.
Breakthrough season is when a player establishes himself and start to accomplish his potential.
Theo has negative ball knowledge (I’ve not watched the video yet)
Your comment is totally original (I’ve not read your comment yet)
@addy5572 your reply is very accurate (I've not read your reply yet)
theo actually was the smartest in the video
kobbie mainoo was absolutely fantastic for manu this pre season. if hes not injured for too long he could defo establish himself in the prem this year.
Where’s kobie mainoo?
Was about to add the same comment.
Wtf are Reev are Tom on? It's not best transfers, it's breakthrough as in he'll breakthrough and establish himself in football. For once, Theo actually done the task right lmao
Normally don’t agree with Theo but to say Diaby who cost 50 mil is going to be a breakthrough player just because it’s in the prem is a reach his price means he’s going to be starter and probably they’re star player next season
I know his breakthrough was last season but i believe garnacho is going to have an even bigger one next season, he’s going to COOK
Thoughts on my FPL team?
Ederson
Estupian Schar Pedro Porto
Saka Mudryk Mitoma Diaby Harry Wilson/Joao Pedro
Nunez Isak
Had 4th puck thinking Kane is leaving
For once I have to agree with Theo. A breakthrough season is literally someone whose capacity is relatively unknown to most and no one expects them to have an impact but they do. Like garnacho last season. A star signing who is an international player and has had multiple seasons in a top 5 league can never be considered as a breakthrough player. The changing of the goal posts after Theos comment on messi also doesn't make sense if a player gets a sudden increase in GA like salah did at liverpool that isn't a breakthrough that's a standout cause that is when a player really sets themselves apart from the rest
Finally one of them mentioning a Burnley player considering they all have them mid table in predictions there must be at least 3 or 4 Burnley players that step up. Think Manuel benson would’ve been a better shout tho tbh
Theo is right. It’s essentially arguing Erling was a breakthrough player last season. We already knew how good he was and his potential regardless of where he “broke through.” You can argue a person can only break though once, breaking through in another league and then performing in another league means you’re merely a consistent player. In this sense break through definitely means breaking through into the first team and becoming a week in and week out, recognized player. All of the players on Reevs list have been purchased to be starters and already broken through as they wouldn’t have got the transfers then?
Ben doak as a Liverpool fan, havnt been so impressed by a teenager since sterling
Tbf I'm with Theo's definition
Breakthrough by definition means sudden & dramatic rise.
It doesn't therfore have to be someone never played PL e.g. youngsters or someone established from other league like Diaby/Haland.
Considering Mudryk was massively underwhelming last season and Jackson is fairly unknown entity, they both are good shout for the prospective list of Breakthrough players.
Theo is bang on the money.
Gustavo hamer, moussa diaby, Elliot Anderson, Cole palmer, julio enciso, joao Pedro
Ben doak is class
I love when Reev imitates the other hosts LOLOL
Nah reev needs to shut up usually I agree with Tom but Theo is right breakthrough isn’t players that have played 100 plus professional games it’s young guys who have come up through the system
Breakthrough seasons in terms of the premier league not their careers (not in order):
Adingra
Udogie
Anderson
Palmer
Kerkez
Jackson
No Kobbie mainoo is criminal
Albeit he gets game time, Andrey Santos
Mainoo is going to be insane
Jarrad Branthwaite's gonna have a breakthrough season.
I actually agree with Theo, Tom and Reev have had an L
That Lionel Messi sure has had a breakthrough in MLS this season.
Oh dear theo this is honking from you 😂
My results for the first games on super 6 are
Brighton 3-0 Luton
Everton 1-2 Fulham
Bournemouth 1-2 West Ham
Newcastle 2-2 villa
Chelsea 2-2 Liverpool
Brentford 1-2 Tottenham
Theo right for once.
moussa diaby “breakthrough” season dkm he’s 24 and established in europe 🤣🤣
Diaby was literally one of the best wingers in bundasliga 😂 how can they be saying he’s having a breakthrough in the prem, delusional
The fact they are saying it’s only a breakthrough season if it’s in the prem is crazy. The prem bias is crazy with these lot.
That got awkward at the end. Both made valid points for breakthrough. Theo was probably right though.
Kills me when Theo and Lewis are on the same page
How on earth is diaby a valid shout for a breakthrough season😂
If Theo won he'd give it to charity surely? Being such a generous guy 😂
Spot on baker!
Kobbie Maino Gonna be the BREAK
THROUGH STAR
A breakthrough season is when a player comes out of nowhere and solidifies themselves in the first XI
Dominick cloete will be a breakthrough player in laliga 29/30 season
If the given task was “premier league breakthrough” Tom and Reev list make total sense and I don’t think the comments realize that. Theo had a good list as well but a player like Diaby who’s only 24 can 100% have a breakthrough in the Prem or he could flop depends on expectations
Both of their criteria is correct tbf
Theo is the only correct 1 for once 😂. He understood the assignment
Theo is the only one who’s actually done a breakthrough player list 🤦♂️
8:37 Theo got violated
And at 10:05
Kobbie Mainoo, how wasn't he mentioned?
Udogie under Poch🫣
my eyes went so wide when he said that🤣🤣
Can’t believe I’m agreeing with Theo, breakthrough stars are players breaking into the first team, the rest are best signings clearly
Hojlund is set to miss a few games
Can’t believe Theo was the only right one in this
Theo is 100% right. Even if he googled his list
The brummie is an absolute whopper
Diaby as a breakthrough is horrific sorry Reev mate
Wouldn’t consider Mbappe a ‘premier league’ breakthrough if he joined Chelsea
Wrexham signed Mclean from Wigan
What team does Tom support?
Why's Theo pretending he doesn't understand what a breakthrough can be when a month ago he had konate and Diego Carlos as a centre back partnership in a breakthrough 11 ...
Theo can’t honestly be this thick
"I had him on fifa all the time"
Oof
We'll ignore that horrendous Ben Dovar bit but Ben Doak is unreal, dont think I've ever seen a 17 year old fly past defenders this easily and this regularly
Who are brighton beating 3-0?
How can a player he a breakthrough yet have been playing senior football for 4+ years and cost 40m+
So if messi went prem it’s a breakthrough season ?
Tom's response to everything is just "you've never seen em play" he just assumes everyone only watches prem like him he's a buffoon
Kinda with Theo on this
Nah y'all are crazy, tom and Reev understood the assignment, y'all didn't
Diaby is a horrible shout, Theo is right about that
Jarrad Branthwaite
Does Theo try and be thick or is he actually thick?
Theo fuming
Rare Theo W
Kobbie Mainoo
How tf can timber be a break through season he played every game last year and was in champs league 😂😂😂
Bruh, palmer scores one goal and plays for City, must be the best player ever = literally how people act 😂
Break through doesn’t necessarily mean young players
Theo's list was good but clearly no his opinion, him and Lewis make it so difficult to watch these
Having Moussa Diaby who is a full fledged French international and champions league starter with multuple seasons of 10+ goals AND assists as a breakthrough is one of the worst takes I've ever seen on this channel. Might as well say Gvardiol, Szoboslai, Onana, Nkunku, and Tonali are "breaking through." Like wtf
Not a single united player is shocking
I enjoy their bickering