Exactly what I do Josh, try to leave the “good fouling” in the barrel. Only remove carbon ring. If groups open up at a few k rounds, then I scrub entire barrel with nylon brush and start the “good fouling” rebuild process. I’m using Rimfire blend and C4. Normally only C4 unless I’m stripping the whole barrel. Great video. Our tendency is to overclean the barrel, as shooters, which with rimfire we need the good fouling. I also follow the school of thought of not mixing ammo down a barrel. Keep it all Lapua or all Eley. Intermixing causes good fouling issues. I soak a bore mop just as you do by the way, to sit in chamber. C4 does the work.
Hey Josh, I just started using those small squeeze bottles with the long needle like spout for my cleaning fluids and oil for my patches it seems I'm using way less and with the cost of that stuff it helps. I just fill them up from the original bottles I'm trying to remember where I got them to give you a link or part # but they were super cheap and have a real nice cap that goes on the needle tip so they don't leak.
Another that uses the Amazon needle tip bottles for my gun related cleaning chemicals and oils. Practically eliminates all the waste and the expensive fluids last a lot longer.
Thank you for (1) Using a Bore Mop. Don't seem to be too many guys that like Bore Mops. Agree to let the Bore Mop sit in the chamber for a while to help soften up gunk and therefore easier to remove the gunk. (2) Agree with use of Nylon Brush instead of Brass Brush. (3) Agree with use of 1 piece Cleaning Rod with Swivel Handle. Keep them vids coming.
Appreciate the video. it's reinforced my cleaning technique. only difference between me and you i twist the rod in the chamber vs short stroking it. as always thx and cheers.
Off topic but want to say thanks for showing the Hold Up Display stuff. I got it after watching your video and the stuff is fantastic. Installation is easy.
Similar process and set up as you. I use the Boretech carbon cleaner first to soak up the carbon ring first then use the thoroflush/clean just to remove the top and loose layer of gunk. Dont get down to metal like I do on my centerfire because my Vudoo does best fouled without a ring.. Loving the new Teslong too, the focus ring in fantastic vs the old set up.
Thank you for getting back to me. Just picking up different ammunition but the Eley and Lapua is hard to find most suppliers are out of stock. But did find someone who has a few bricks
I shoot 2 ARA matches, one small bore silhouette and one to two NRL22 matches a month. After each, which can be 60-160 rounds I do a very similar cleaning. I hit the bore with two patches of shooters choice and the area just ahead of the chamber with 3 patches wet with BoreTech carbon remover. The carbon remover sits for about 10 min each then I run dry patches. Want the carbon ring down to nothing and try not to hit the seasoning in the bore two hard.
I have got to get one of those monitors. I hate wagging a laptop out to the shop to use my Teslong scope. I have been using the mops on a pistol cleaning rod to soak the chamber area. I also use bore mops to lube the inside of cases when sizing centerfire brass.
If you haven't tried a parker hale jag for cleaning the carbon ring I highly recommend trying one. I find it works better than using a mop and I rarely (if ever) need to brush. I just wrap the patch around it, move it around a bit, let the c4 sit for a while and then twirl it a couple times after.
Great work buddy clean mine almost identical this routine. More worried about the chamber and any loose debris in the barrel. That usually comes out the the first wet patch.
I’d recommend one final step- use Wipe-Out Brushless Bore Cleaner with the optional applicator spout to fill the chamber (it’s like shaving cream) and let it sit overnight at an angle. Even if you do nothing else, that will do wonders to clearing out the fouling in the rest of the barrel to have it shooting its best I’ve heard both Jayden Quinlan at Hornady and Bryan Litz at Berger/Lapua/SK swear by it for the barrels they use for ammo development. I’ve had great results on all of my firearms but I usually follow the instructions to the letter. However I’ve tested this method and seen 90% of the benefit.
Thanks for Sharing was pretty much going by your last Vid.on cleaning Gotta love evolution stuff changing constantly solvents have come a long way it’s amazing on the Odorless Strong acting Solvents 🤯
Would love if you would build a list of this stuff you use. I've been totally useless in the office this morning searching the net. LOL. Boretech is out of the bore guides so I've looked all over for another that would work for y 457...any ideas would be helpful. Keep doing what you do man. Love the vids.
I was excited to try this in my centerfire, and disappointed to find the solvent did virtually nothing! The abrasive solution works after using a decent solvent.
I just cleaned my AR 223 with just the thorro clean and it knocked the carbon and copper right out of it. I brushed it with a nylon brush about 100 strokes. Patched it and it was clean
I use C4 and a bore mop. I let it sit In the chamber/throat area for about an hour. I use a brass brush rather than a nylon brush. I don't understand why people are afraid of a brass brush. It cannot harm your barrel.
Newish shooter > How often do you clean the .22, I’m getting lots of conflicting comments. Usual I shoot every second week and can put anything between 100-200 rounds at a time through it in a session. I’ve been cleaning after every use using your original cleansing video. As always loving the content, your y go to RUclips video for anything rimfire lol
Thanks Josh... bore scope is on the list, and I appreciate your approach to efficient effective cleaning. Saves time and money for other things. Do you use the same approach with semi auto's?
Josh great videos - why did you stop running a nylon brush all the way down the bore as you did in your prior cleaning video? Do you still brush the whole barrel at anytime now? Thanks
Hey Josh. Really like your videos. Been following them for a while. Great tip on cleaning. I will try it. But I have a question on long range ammunition. You did a video with you and another fellow shooting 🥚 eggs out to 400 yards. But I can’t remember what ammunition you used? Your thoughts on the centre X and Eley Team for extended range. Just setting up a B14 R steel Picking up different types of ammunition to try. Your input would be appreciated. Cheers.
Gday all the way from australia !!! Love the content mate keep it coming and yes we do have guns down here just restricted as FU(K, interested in that suction ball head mate that looks very handy can you send me a link or the name. Cheers Beau
Great video ! I'm new to 22 LR, and I learned a lot about your method. What do you think about, or do you have an opinion using the Otis cable method ? Thanks !!!
I like hoppes but its very strong smelling and the solvent smell ends up filtering upstairs and the complaints quickly follow. The ones i use have no real smell
Josh, I live in Texas, I am having a heck of a time finding CZ .22’s. Looking at the CZ 457 At One 24.8” barrel. Seems no one has them…or is there a place you would suggest. I have a dealer I can have it shipped to…
I haven’t a AT-one for sale in years. I wouldn’t recommend that stock though. Everyone ends up hating it. Unless you’re cash strapped, just grab any 457 you can find and put it in a good stock/chassis
How well does the BoreTech 22RF rod do for you in FACTORY CZ457 guns? I know some folks have a hard time with them and the tight CZ bores and end up with 17cal rods just for CZ’s. Also have you run into any ejector interference using the BoreTech on CZ’s?
Josh, i have come to understand thorro clean is an abrasive? (iosso) i have j-b bore paste and have been very reluctant to use it in my match barrel! been using C4 and Rimfire Blend. have you swapped bore tech for thorro clean now? i almost ordered some... would really like to hear your thoughts on abrasives...
I use both because they both work really well for me. I don't think you need to worry about abrasives as long as your using them sparingly. I'm maybe using the thorro clean once every 2 or 3 months
Can someone please point me to the source of the non-swivel boretech rod used to brush the chamber. For some reason I cannot find it. Thanks in advance.
300-500 is pretty common, but mostly when I see my accuracy going away, if its shooting great, I'd just keep shooting. And when I do clean, I focus on the chamber or the first 2" from the breech to clean the carbon ring mostly, a fouled in barrel works best for me, Josh did an excellent job explaining the cleaning process
@@PursuitofAccuracy oh thanks sometimes out of my .22s I noticed it doesn’t eject but I noticed it’s only with the ones I use my silencer on and those barrels get dirty way faster I learned and I just thought maybe that’s it
I have found an effective and efficient solution to bore clean and that is to use a smaller bore brush with the patch wrapped around the copper brush with some old Hoppes Solvent and that gets the bore spotless and the chamber spotless as well. One can use a larger brush and or an extra patch or two and that cleans everything with no metal to metal contact. A wet swab and a couple minutes soak time and the bore will be spotless. Now if one still has an issue one can use a dab of Flitz metal polish on the bore patch and that will remove anything remaining in the bore and then a patch or two with Hoppes Solvent and a couple of dry patches and the bore should be clean. One other thing which can up performance is to dip one's rounds in a lube. Even a molybdenum disulfide, or Teflon or certain other lubes of varying thixatropic properties can improve internal, external and terminal ballistics performance.
Exactly what I do Josh, try to leave the “good fouling” in the barrel. Only remove carbon ring. If groups open up at a few k rounds, then I scrub entire barrel with nylon brush and start the “good fouling” rebuild process. I’m using Rimfire blend and C4. Normally only C4 unless I’m stripping the whole barrel. Great video. Our tendency is to overclean the barrel, as shooters, which with rimfire we need the good fouling. I also follow the school of thought of not mixing ammo down a barrel. Keep it all Lapua or all Eley. Intermixing causes good fouling issues. I soak a bore mop just as you do by the way, to sit in chamber. C4 does the work.
I soak the chamber for 10 minutes with Boretech C4 on a mop. Removing the carbon ring solves the primary problem.
I have the same Teslong borescope. Besides using while cleaning my firearms I used it to find a water leak under the dash of my Jeep.
Hey Josh, I just started using those small squeeze bottles with the long needle like spout for my cleaning fluids and oil for my patches it seems I'm using way less and with the cost of that stuff it helps. I just fill them up from the original bottles I'm trying to remember where I got them to give you a link or part # but they were super cheap and have a real nice cap that goes on the needle tip so they don't leak.
I bought some of those, found them on Amazon!
I started with bottles from Brownell's. Switched over to Amazon bottles. Have to see if they hold up.
Another that uses the Amazon needle tip bottles for my gun related cleaning chemicals and oils.
Practically eliminates all the waste and the expensive fluids last a lot longer.
Great video! Teslong was fantastic with a technical issue that I had and not only fixed it, upgraded it. Great company. Thanks Josh!
I've used my Teslong about a year, I am glad they sponsored this video, it is a must have if you are serious about cleaning
Thank you for (1) Using a Bore Mop. Don't seem to be too many guys that like Bore Mops. Agree to let the Bore Mop sit in the chamber for a while to help soften up gunk and therefore easier to remove the gunk. (2) Agree with use of Nylon Brush instead of Brass Brush. (3) Agree with use of 1 piece Cleaning Rod with Swivel Handle. Keep them vids coming.
Appreciate the video. it's reinforced my cleaning technique. only difference between me and you i twist the rod in the chamber vs short stroking it. as always thx and cheers.
Great Video as always Josh Thanks Mate.
Excellent video Josh! Salute!
Off topic but want to say thanks for showing the Hold Up Display stuff. I got it after watching your video and the stuff is fantastic. Installation is easy.
Its crazy nice
Thanks Josh!
Great concise and quality video. Thanks for all the great content you give us!
Similar process and set up as you. I use the Boretech carbon cleaner first to soak up the carbon ring first then use the thoroflush/clean just to remove the top and loose layer of gunk. Dont get down to metal like I do on my centerfire because my Vudoo does best fouled without a ring.. Loving the new Teslong too, the focus ring in fantastic vs the old set up.
Thank you for getting back to me.
Just picking up different ammunition but the Eley and Lapua is hard to find most suppliers are out of stock. But did find someone who has a few bricks
The process looks pretty easy, but it sure helps to have a nice after market barrel instead of a factory barrel to clean. Nice video!
I shoot 2 ARA matches, one small bore silhouette and one to two NRL22 matches a month. After each, which can be 60-160 rounds I do a very similar cleaning. I hit the bore with two patches of shooters choice and the area just ahead of the chamber with 3 patches wet with BoreTech carbon remover. The carbon remover sits for about 10 min each then I run dry patches. Want the carbon ring down to nothing and try not to hit the seasoning in the bore two hard.
Nicely done!
I have got to get one of those monitors. I hate wagging a laptop out to the shop to use my Teslong scope. I have been using the mops on a pistol cleaning rod to soak the chamber area. I also use bore mops to lube the inside of cases when sizing centerfire brass.
If you haven't tried a parker hale jag for cleaning the carbon ring I highly recommend trying one. I find it works better than using a mop and I rarely (if ever) need to brush. I just wrap the patch around it, move it around a bit, let the c4 sit for a while and then twirl it a couple times after.
Will check it out
Great work buddy clean mine almost identical this routine. More worried about the chamber and any loose debris in the barrel. That usually comes out the the first wet patch.
I have been using the thrro clean stuff for a year or so now on my centerfire's.. its the best i have found..
I was surprised how well it works
What bore guides do you recommend for a rim x action and for a Cz 457
Perfectly done 👍
I’d recommend one final step- use Wipe-Out Brushless Bore Cleaner with the optional applicator spout to fill the chamber (it’s like shaving cream) and let it sit overnight at an angle. Even if you do nothing else, that will do wonders to clearing out the fouling in the rest of the barrel to have it shooting its best
I’ve heard both Jayden Quinlan at Hornady and Bryan Litz at Berger/Lapua/SK swear by it for the barrels they use for ammo development.
I’ve had great results on all of my firearms but I usually follow the instructions to the letter. However I’ve tested this method and seen 90% of the benefit.
I actually purposefully leave the barrel dirty and just clean the carbon ring, just seems more consistent for me, not saying its the right way
Thanks for Sharing was pretty much going by your last Vid.on cleaning Gotta love evolution stuff changing constantly solvents have come a long way it’s amazing on the Odorless Strong acting Solvents 🤯
Great Video as always Josh
Thanks Josh
Would love if you would build a list of this stuff you use. I've been totally useless in the office this morning searching the net. LOL. Boretech is out of the bore guides so I've looked all over for another that would work for y 457...any ideas would be helpful. Keep doing what you do man. Love the vids.
Great Video Josh
I was excited to try this in my centerfire, and disappointed to find the solvent did virtually nothing! The abrasive solution works after using a decent solvent.
I just cleaned my AR 223 with just the thorro clean and it knocked the carbon and copper right out of it.
I brushed it with a nylon brush about 100 strokes. Patched it and it was clean
I use C4 and a bore mop. I let it sit In the chamber/throat area for about an hour. I use a brass brush rather than a nylon brush. I don't understand why people are afraid of a brass brush. It cannot harm your barrel.
It wont hurt the barrel but the nylon is easier for me to scrub just the chamber with
how important is using a bore guide. I have a rpr ive been plinking with and i thinks its about due for a cleaning. Great video by the way
Thanks josh
Newish shooter >
How often do you clean the .22, I’m getting lots of conflicting comments. Usual I shoot every second week and can put anything between 100-200 rounds at a time through it in a session. I’ve been cleaning after every use using your original cleansing video.
As always loving the content, your y go to RUclips video for anything rimfire lol
Well it just really depends. If you don't mind fouling it back in clean as often as you like. Sounds like you could be cleaning a lot less too though.
Can you do a video on what to look for on the numbers that you look for on a conograph
Yeah i think I can put that in a vid
Thanks Josh... bore scope is on the list, and I appreciate your approach to efficient effective cleaning. Saves time and money for other things. Do you use the same approach with semi auto's?
Yeah same approach on all my rimfires
Josh great videos - why did you stop running a nylon brush all the way down the bore as you did in your prior cleaning video?
Do you still brush the whole barrel at anytime now?
Thanks
@@PFlick-n4k now I do scrub the whole barrel every two or three cleanings
I like to use canned air and blow out the Breach area to get any cleaner and lube out at the end
Good idea
Hey Josh.
Really like your videos.
Been following them for a while.
Great tip on cleaning.
I will try it.
But I have a question on long range ammunition.
You did a video with you and another fellow shooting 🥚 eggs out to 400 yards.
But I can’t remember what ammunition you used? Your thoughts on the centre X and Eley Team for extended range. Just setting up a B14 R steel Picking up different types of ammunition to try.
Your input would be appreciated.
Cheers.
I was shooting eley match and he was shooting rws r50.
All the big companies make great ammo, test all of them and see what your gun likes
Gday all the way from australia !!! Love the content mate keep it coming and yes we do have guns down here just restricted as FU(K, interested in that suction ball head mate that looks very handy can you send me a link or the name. Cheers Beau
Thanks. sunwayfoto.com/products/sunwayfoto-bs-01-suction-cup-mount-ball-head-for-dslr-camera-phone-holder-gopro-for-car-load-22lbs-10kg
Great video ! I'm new to 22 LR, and I learned a lot about your method. What do you think about, or do you have an opinion using the Otis cable method ? Thanks !!!
I dont like the pull throughs for regular cleaning. I pefer a rod and attachments. The pull throughs work for on the spot touch ups
My process isn't much different. I do a solid 20min soak of the chamber. Everything else is spot on.
What about Hoppes no.9 and Montana gun oil great for centre fires and rim fires Great videos Josh long time subscriber from Ireland 🇮🇪.
I like hoppes but its very strong smelling and the solvent smell ends up filtering upstairs and the complaints quickly follow. The ones i use have no real smell
Josh, I live in Texas, I am having a heck of a time finding CZ .22’s. Looking at the CZ 457 At One 24.8” barrel. Seems no one has them…or is there a place you would suggest. I have a dealer I can have it shipped to…
I thought that was only a "Canada" problem?! Cheers...
It's probably a worldwide problem as we can't get many of the 457 models (esp the MTR) in New Zealand either.
I haven’t a AT-one for sale in years. I wouldn’t recommend that stock though. Everyone ends up hating it. Unless you’re cash strapped, just grab any 457 you can find and put it in a good stock/chassis
If you're open to a CZ 457 Varmint GrabAGun has in stock.
I do the same as you’ve described here except the grease on the lugs. Any particular grease you use? White lithium?
I use a pistol grease but any firearms safe grease should be fine
We are suppose to clean them 😂😂😜 jk great video!
Good info.. How often are you doing a deep clean on the bolt?
I dont really have a schedule on it, just when i have the time and cant remember when i did it last
How well does the BoreTech 22RF rod do for you in FACTORY CZ457 guns? I know some folks have a hard time with them and the tight CZ bores and end up with 17cal rods just for CZ’s. Also have you run into any ejector interference using the BoreTech on CZ’s?
It rubs if im not careful
Josh, i have come to understand thorro clean is an abrasive? (iosso) i have j-b bore paste and have been very reluctant to use it in my match barrel! been using C4 and Rimfire Blend. have you swapped bore tech for thorro clean now? i almost ordered some... would really like to hear your thoughts on abrasives...
I use both because they both work really well for me. I don't think you need to worry about abrasives as long as your using them sparingly. I'm maybe using the thorro clean once every 2 or 3 months
I wonder if JB is more abrasive than thorro clean… i use it in my AR and other center fire rifles.. hmm
@@nelsonm5032 from what I recall on both of them the jb is much more abbrasive
5:21 Thanks for the closeup? 😅
Can someone please point me to the source of the non-swivel boretech rod used to brush the chamber. For some reason I cannot find it. Thanks in advance.
They call it an action brush i think
Josh well done 👍 typically how many shots between cleaning?
300-500 is pretty common, but mostly when I see my accuracy going away, if its shooting great, I'd just keep shooting. And when I do clean, I focus on the chamber or the first 2" from the breech to clean the carbon ring mostly, a fouled in barrel works best for me, Josh did an excellent job explaining the cleaning process
Was that the NTG 400H or the NTG450 H i could not find the 400
Seems its now called the ntg200h
How much time do you wait to push the 2nd patch. After you push the first wet patch
Right after
Josh are you cleaning the bore mop water use?
I clean the mop every few uses with contact cleaner
@@PursuitofAccuracy what is contact cleaner? Thanks
@@davelyons8092 its like carb cleaner, dries really fast. I blast the chemicals and dirt off with it and it dries off by itself
@@PursuitofAccuracy so it’s an automotive product?
@@davelyons8092 no boretech makes the one i use
what mount are you using to hold the rifle on the bench top?
It's a sunway photo suction cup arca mount
@@PursuitofAccuracy cheers mate
You didn’t clean the most important part,the crown?
Is there anything wrong with a bore snake?
Its ok for quick cleans i suppose. I guess if you ran it through enough it could scrub out a carbon ring
@@PursuitofAccuracy does the carbon ring have anything to do with the bass not ejecting out of chamber sometimes
@@charlotteresidentr6799 no it shouldnt, forms ahead of the brass
@@PursuitofAccuracy oh thanks sometimes out of my .22s I noticed it doesn’t eject but I noticed it’s only with the ones I use my silencer on and those barrels get dirty way faster I learned and I just thought maybe that’s it
What vice were you using?
Thats a suction cup arca mount from sunway foto
I have found an effective and efficient solution to bore clean and that is to use a smaller bore brush with the patch wrapped around the copper brush with some old Hoppes Solvent and that gets the bore spotless and the chamber spotless as well. One can use a larger brush and or an extra patch or two and that cleans everything with no metal to metal contact. A wet swab and a couple minutes soak time and the bore will be spotless. Now if one still has an issue one can use a dab of Flitz metal polish on the bore patch and that will remove anything remaining in the bore and then a patch or two with Hoppes Solvent and a couple of dry patches and the bore should be clean. One other thing which can up performance is to dip one's rounds in a lube. Even a molybdenum disulfide, or Teflon or certain other lubes of varying thixatropic properties can improve internal, external and terminal ballistics performance.
So you gotta clean them? 😂😂😂 oops 😂
Well ya dont got to lol
@@PursuitofAccuracy But Thunderbolts are such clean rounds as we all know 🤣 accurate too. 🤣