Just a note. This vehicle is a great buy for what you get. Couple positive points. The power is adequate, it's not like we can drag race on the street anyway. Suspension and handling, cornering on the new platform is more refined than Kona, HRV, Kicks, and very close to cx 3. Cx3 is too small in comparison to space in the CHR. Let's see if the Hyundai Venue can compare when released. I read some comments comparing to the Corolla. Seating HEIGHT was not mentioned and it's much easier than the average sedan to get in and out of. Now the negatives. Styling depends, it's an individual decision, personally I think it's unique and different and does not look like a juke. Refresh inside was completed one year after release with three models and new infotainment with rear cam moved from rear view mirror to touch screen. Gas mileage not the best but hiway at best is 6.8 litres per 100 if you are not a lead foot all the time. Yes infotainment needs improving. This vehicle is very popular in Europe and fastest selling in Japan as there are many engine options. In North America only one option and too competitive in comparison to other subcompact cuvs. No awd for city folks is not a big deal. Overall great vehicle for its uniqueness and not a vanilla cuv. I give kudos to Toyota for being just different with build quality and quiet ride . A pleasure to drive and worth the look.
And that's why these vehicles sell, not every car is right for every buyer, and a lot of people find the options and features offered on the C-HR compelling for what they need. For what we look for in a subcompact crossover it ticks some of the boxes, but headlight performance and navigation are two points that need improvement. The addition of a hybrid powertrain from the European models would also make this compelling for buyers looking to save fuel costs.
@@PRNTestDrive Not only fuel costs but the price of the vehicle as well. Why it sells so well in Europe. The lights I don't think is a deal breaker. There are buyers like myself who barely drive at night. Most cars out there regardless of the new hid are still weak anyway.Good points tho.
@@PRNTestDrive Another major point is i hardly see any on the road coming from a Civic. It's like can't anybody drive something else that's reliable.. Like to be different not a sheep.Better value in fact cheaper with CHR than Corolla depending on model. Deals a plenty by Toyota.
Was in the market for a sub compact early this year...looked at this, Kona, CX3 and HRV...ended up with CX3! The CX3 vs this C-HR had : AWD, LED headlights, heated steering wheel, AC and AA, rear center armrest, better rear window visibility, better engine HP, 6-speed auto vs CVT...and yeah a sunroof! Also got a great deal on the CX3 ($2400 off MSRP) with zero down and zero percent lease rate!
Glad to hear it, congrats on the purchase! The competition in the subcompact crossover segment is intense right now, lots of new vehicles, a lot of which are getting EV/PHEV options. I think Toyota has had a lot of success with this model in Canada despite it lacking most of the features a lot of us expect, as their core buyers coming from older Corollas see this as a nice upgrade.
PRN_TestDrive, thanks! Agree with all your observations on the C-HR review..btw am also from Cda (MB to be exact). I just felt too that CX3 had better styling than the C-HR and while C-HR is newer platform than the 2019 Corolla and older gens, the design both inside and out was too funky for me..preferred a more safe, elegant, sporty but classic look! Yes Toyota has the reliability and resale value going for it that’s why it has a loyal following in the industry. Another factor I chose CX3 was all the rest, HRV, Kona and C-HR would’ve cost me more to own (spec’d the same) due to limited incentives, discounts and higher interest rates. My second close choice was the Kona...
Much better and sophisticated suspension which in Canada makes up for other missing features. It is easy ingress and egress for older people which is such a surprise and a huge positive.
I think that's why the C-HRs I see on the road are often driven by older drivers. It clearly works for buyers as it seems to be a popular choice in the subcompact crossover market.
In Europa the C-HR comes only as a hybrid with 2 options a 1.8 122 hp and a 2.0 184 hp. Both versions are selling very good because of the low consumption ( 3.8 or 4.0 liters per 100 km). The awd 1.2 Liter turbo has been discontinued
The hybrid honestly makes the most sense for this vehicle, it confuses me that Toyota doesn't offer it here in North America. There aren't many subcompact crossovers with only FWD here in Canada, the Hyundai Venue is new, and the Nissan Kicks competes with this too, but the Kia Niro comes as a hybrid here without any direct competition.
Hi Nile, it's been a while since watching your channel; it's nice to see that Toyota has finally let you review their vehicles. In comparison to its competitors (e.g., HR-V, Kicks, CX-3, Kona, Soul), I think the C-HR is less practical, particularly for buyers with kids. The rear seat and cargo space is limited. Rearward visibility is poor, in my view, with the sharply rising beltline. The elevated rear door handles are out of reach of a child (this may be good or bad, depending on one's perspective). The rated fuel efficiency is lower than some of these competitors when similarly equipped with FWD. That being said, I think this C-HR is well suited for Toyota-loyal buyers that want a uniquely styled vehicle, with a higher seating position, at a relatively affordable price. In certain colour combinations with the contrasting roof, the C-HR is quite striking. Otherwise, the Corolla hatchback may be a better choice for many.
Hopefully we can keep you coming back to the Channel! I agree 100% that this is a vehicle best suited for Toyota buyers. I was really hoping to make the Showdown happen with the Kicks though. I don’t expect major changes for the C-HR at least here in North America. If it’s working for Toyota there’s no sense in them changing!
Keep the same shape just make it a little bigger , just a little bigger. Give it the old reliable Toyota v6 engine and give an all wheel drive version. Put some good audio system in .Then finally do some work on the stability and just touch up the suspension a notch . Then that's vehicular perfection right there!!!!!!
I was surprised it didn't come with one. We get a lot of mixed comments about sunroof and mooroofs so for some it might be a good thing not to have it.
My thoughts exactly, and we've had a number of recent vehicles with halogen-only headlights which end up getting a low rating from us. The 2020 Corolla is looking really good either way.
We ended up filming this the day before that major snow storm we got a couple weeks back on Tuesday, definitely wasn't Spring time, my sarcasm in the video might have been a little too subtle. Either way it's finally starting to warm up here, wet, but warm at least.
Why halogen only for US/Canada? Well according to my good friend who works in R&D center in Toyota, they made the LED headlamp a bit too expensive for what it is. How expensive? $2,400 a set!! They reckoned that’s too much for US/Canada market because these kind of cars are considered as budget car
That makes sense, it's crazy how expensive those LED lights are though. I always assume it would be cheaper for a manufacturer to design/build one set of lights for a car, rather than making a cheap set of halogens and an upgraded version for LED, but it seems lighting is still something manufacturers calculate they can cheap out on for some markets on some cars.
i think this car without hybrid powertrain make much less sense... with this traditional powertrain is just another small crossover, meanwhile with prius powertrain is the best hybrid crossover, basicaly all chr i ever see on the road (quite a good amount) was the hybrid one, the other engine, the 1.2 liter turbo didn't sold much
I don't know why Toyota doesn't sell the hybrid here, unless it ultimately comes down to cost. We see these on the road often enough, but perhaps the market data shows buyers aren't interested in a hybrid (more expensive) version. At the same time though Kia is doing very well with their Niro which would compete directly against a C-HR FWD Hybrid.
@@PRNTestDrive but this is not the niro, chr is perceived and designed to be more "fashionable" than other small crossover, usualy car like this are bought by man in mid life crysis or couple in their late 20's/30's with no kids, that's why the appeal and exclusitivy of Hybrid fits better in this car, is the cooler and trendy version of the (quite ugly) prius, people in the downtowns would certanly like those cars.
The demographic out here for this is slightly older, usually I see retirees driving these. Either way the hybrid would make it more appealing at least to me.
i dont want to buy that because it only has only 144hp and it can only do 31mpg highway....while the camry has 203hp and can do up to 39mpg highway......toyota should just stop using that less efficient engine in that chr
Especially since they only offer this as FWD, the Kia Soul is looking seriously good as a competitor. We're hoping to get one from the press fleet soon, I've already spotted a handful of 2020 models on the road.
Give the Soul about a year. Unproven cvt and known for many recalls in the past. Also the revision to some may have the same sediments as the chr plus resell value can't compare to Toyota.
Just a note. This vehicle is a great buy for what you get. Couple positive points. The power is adequate, it's not like we can drag race on the street anyway. Suspension and handling, cornering on the new platform is more refined than Kona, HRV, Kicks, and very close to cx 3. Cx3 is too small in comparison to space in the CHR. Let's see if the Hyundai Venue can compare when released. I read some comments comparing to the Corolla. Seating HEIGHT was not mentioned and it's much easier than the average sedan to get in and out of. Now the negatives. Styling depends, it's an individual decision, personally I think it's unique and different and does not look like a juke. Refresh inside was completed one year after release with three models and new infotainment with rear cam moved from rear view mirror to touch screen. Gas mileage not the best but hiway at best is 6.8 litres per 100 if you are not a lead foot all the time. Yes infotainment needs improving. This vehicle is very popular in Europe and fastest selling in Japan as there are many engine options. In North America only one option and too competitive in comparison to other subcompact cuvs. No awd for city folks is not a big deal.
Overall great vehicle for its uniqueness and not a vanilla cuv. I give kudos to Toyota for being just different with build quality and quiet ride . A pleasure to drive and worth the look.
And that's why these vehicles sell, not every car is right for every buyer, and a lot of people find the options and features offered on the C-HR compelling for what they need. For what we look for in a subcompact crossover it ticks some of the boxes, but headlight performance and navigation are two points that need improvement. The addition of a hybrid powertrain from the European models would also make this compelling for buyers looking to save fuel costs.
@@PRNTestDrive Not only fuel costs but the price of the vehicle as well. Why it sells so well in Europe. The lights I don't think is a deal breaker. There are buyers like myself who barely drive at night. Most cars out there regardless of the new hid are still weak anyway.Good points tho.
@@PRNTestDrive Another major point is i hardly see any on the road coming from a Civic. It's like can't anybody drive something else that's reliable.. Like to be different not a sheep.Better value in fact cheaper with CHR than Corolla depending on model. Deals a plenty by Toyota.
Was in the market for a sub compact early this year...looked at this, Kona, CX3 and HRV...ended up with CX3! The CX3 vs this C-HR had : AWD, LED headlights, heated steering wheel, AC and AA, rear center armrest, better rear window visibility, better engine HP, 6-speed auto vs CVT...and yeah a sunroof! Also got a great deal on the CX3 ($2400 off MSRP) with zero down and zero percent lease rate!
Glad to hear it, congrats on the purchase! The competition in the subcompact crossover segment is intense right now, lots of new vehicles, a lot of which are getting EV/PHEV options. I think Toyota has had a lot of success with this model in Canada despite it lacking most of the features a lot of us expect, as their core buyers coming from older Corollas see this as a nice upgrade.
PRN_TestDrive, thanks! Agree with all your observations on the C-HR review..btw am also from Cda (MB to be exact). I just felt too that CX3 had better styling than the C-HR and while C-HR is newer platform than the 2019 Corolla and older gens, the design both inside and out was too funky for me..preferred a more safe, elegant, sporty but classic look! Yes Toyota has the reliability and resale value going for it that’s why it has a loyal following in the industry. Another factor I chose CX3 was all the rest, HRV, Kona and C-HR would’ve cost me more to own (spec’d the same) due to limited incentives, discounts and higher interest rates. My second close choice was the Kona...
Love my C-HR!!!❤️
Glad to hear it!
that color with that black top is super beautiful in actual
They do offer some nice colour combinations, this did look good in person!
@@PRNTestDrive the one i saw on the freeway today here in los angeles i not actually silver....its a bit like light titanium
Oh I almost forgot please Toyota put a darn sunroof in the chr . Still a cool car had mine for a few months and still loving it more everyday.
Fair enough!
Much better and sophisticated suspension which in Canada makes up for other missing features. It is easy ingress and egress for older people which is such a surprise and a huge positive.
I think that's why the C-HRs I see on the road are often driven by older drivers. It clearly works for buyers as it seems to be a popular choice in the subcompact crossover market.
In Europa the C-HR comes only as a hybrid with 2 options a 1.8 122 hp and a 2.0 184 hp. Both versions are selling very good because of the low consumption ( 3.8 or 4.0 liters per 100 km). The awd 1.2 Liter turbo has been discontinued
The hybrid honestly makes the most sense for this vehicle, it confuses me that Toyota doesn't offer it here in North America. There aren't many subcompact crossovers with only FWD here in Canada, the Hyundai Venue is new, and the Nissan Kicks competes with this too, but the Kia Niro comes as a hybrid here without any direct competition.
Hi Nile, it's been a while since watching your channel; it's nice to see that Toyota has finally let you review their vehicles. In comparison to its competitors (e.g., HR-V, Kicks, CX-3, Kona, Soul), I think the C-HR is less practical, particularly for buyers with kids. The rear seat and cargo space is limited. Rearward visibility is poor, in my view, with the sharply rising beltline. The elevated rear door handles are out of reach of a child (this may be good or bad, depending on one's perspective). The rated fuel efficiency is lower than some of these competitors when similarly equipped with FWD. That being said, I think this C-HR is well suited for Toyota-loyal buyers that want a uniquely styled vehicle, with a higher seating position, at a relatively affordable price. In certain colour combinations with the contrasting roof, the C-HR is quite striking. Otherwise, the Corolla hatchback may be a better choice for many.
Hopefully we can keep you coming back to the Channel! I agree 100% that this is a vehicle best suited for Toyota buyers. I was really hoping to make the Showdown happen with the Kicks though. I don’t expect major changes for the C-HR at least here in North America. If it’s working for Toyota there’s no sense in them changing!
Keep the same shape just make it a little bigger , just a little bigger. Give it the old reliable Toyota v6 engine and give an all wheel drive version. Put some good audio system in .Then finally do some work on the stability and just touch up the suspension a notch . Then that's vehicular perfection right there!!!!!!
I think Toyota was going in that direction with the Corolla Cross they came out with.
All I need is adding a sunroof like the new version promoted in Asia, otherwise it is excellent.
I was surprised it didn't come with one. We get a lot of mixed comments about sunroof and mooroofs so for some it might be a good thing not to have it.
PRN_TestDrive I just think it’s better have one regardless we use it or not, young people might love to have it.
No awd option kinda defeats the purpose for this car, just get a corolla instead and it comes with led headlights which is not even an option on this.
My thoughts exactly, and we've had a number of recent vehicles with halogen-only headlights which end up getting a low rating from us. The 2020 Corolla is looking really good either way.
I don't get why people like the idea of these small crossovers. Just get a sedan; bigger, more for your money, probably better mileage.
Agreed. The fuel economy on this wasn't very good at all, I can guarantee the new Corolla hatch would do better than it.
I live about 100km south of you and so not consider it spring, no matter the calendar date, if snow is on the ground lol
We ended up filming this the day before that major snow storm we got a couple weeks back on Tuesday, definitely wasn't Spring time, my sarcasm in the video might have been a little too subtle. Either way it's finally starting to warm up here, wet, but warm at least.
Why halogen only for US/Canada? Well according to my good friend who works in R&D center in Toyota, they made the LED headlamp a bit too expensive for what it is. How expensive? $2,400 a set!! They reckoned that’s too much for US/Canada market because these kind of cars are considered as budget car
That makes sense, it's crazy how expensive those LED lights are though. I always assume it would be cheaper for a manufacturer to design/build one set of lights for a car, rather than making a cheap set of halogens and an upgraded version for LED, but it seems lighting is still something manufacturers calculate they can cheap out on for some markets on some cars.
i think this car without hybrid powertrain make much less sense... with this traditional powertrain is just another small crossover, meanwhile with prius powertrain is the best hybrid crossover, basicaly all chr i ever see on the road (quite a good amount) was the hybrid one, the other engine, the 1.2 liter turbo didn't sold much
I don't know why Toyota doesn't sell the hybrid here, unless it ultimately comes down to cost. We see these on the road often enough, but perhaps the market data shows buyers aren't interested in a hybrid (more expensive) version. At the same time though Kia is doing very well with their Niro which would compete directly against a C-HR FWD Hybrid.
@@PRNTestDrive but this is not the niro, chr is perceived and designed to be more "fashionable" than other small crossover, usualy car like this are bought by man in mid life crysis or couple in their late 20's/30's with no kids, that's why the appeal and exclusitivy of Hybrid fits better in this car, is the cooler and trendy version of the (quite ugly) prius, people in the downtowns would certanly like those cars.
The demographic out here for this is slightly older, usually I see retirees driving these. Either way the hybrid would make it more appealing at least to me.
J'ai aime la tour de vieux Montreal
Did I really drive this there? I thought I brought it home for a couple days and took it back, I remember this being a shorter loan.
i dont want to buy that because it only has only 144hp and it can only do 31mpg highway....while the camry has 203hp and can do up to 39mpg highway......toyota should just stop using that less efficient engine in that chr
Or at least add the Hybrid option here in Canada. Low HP engine + CVT doesn't help much when trying to merge onto the highway.
My 2012 Nissan Juke handles better and much more HP. I will wait till the Chr is much higher hp.
Shoutout to the Juke! We featured it recently in an episode of TestDrive Showdown, it's a fun little crossover with the NISMO kit.
It’s a lot of fun 7 yrs. of fun👍🏻 never had any problems and I love the fact it has ump for a 188 HP Nissan Juke SL😀
I take a Kia Soul over any sub-compact CUV including this very strange Toyota.
Especially since they only offer this as FWD, the Kia Soul is looking seriously good as a competitor. We're hoping to get one from the press fleet soon, I've already spotted a handful of 2020 models on the road.
Give the Soul about a year. Unproven cvt and known for many recalls in the past. Also the revision to some may have the same sediments as the chr plus resell value can't compare to Toyota.
that has a nice tail light.....but at night when its on there is only a very small area that is lighted..... its the ugliest light in the universe LOL
We'll have to see if we can spot one of these on the road at night from behind to see.