Sorry but I just have to ask .. some people say that adding uv lights to your leds is good for the grow but then some people say it's bad for it .. what's the truth .. ? Thank you ..
@@GodSlayer-vq7pk Manipulating light spectrum can be beneficial and harmful. Blue light will stunt a plant (can be used to control height.) and after a couple months will kill it. Red light spectrum (including part of the UV spectrum) increases foliage and flower growth. A couple months of red light will finish a growing season nicely. Be sure to prune the rain leaves to allow light into the bush. Don't manipulate the light spectrum until after you have cut off the clones and always grow them in a separate chamber as the lighting requirements are much different. Clones require full light spectrum 18--24 hours per day for several weeks whereas flowering plants can only have light 12-14 hours before they revert back to foliage cycling at 15-16 hours per day. I was able to cause 2 30" tall indica plants to produce a quarter ounce of bud each week for 11 1/2 months. (I had to stop due to bug infestation.) I suspect that in a good chamber, you can cause a couple plants to produce each week indefinitely.
I have done the same thing exactly as you.. never a problem. I found 2 seeds out of 15 oz's. I bought it from a buddy after I smoked it simply amazing in 2017 November I put 1 seed in water for 2 days couldn't believe it it's popping. The strain is Headband 22. I take what these people say with a grain of salt. Been growing outside for 45 years 72 now.
I started doing that a couple years ago and while it does damage the structure it keeps them sooooo fresh. The first time I popped one open after a few months of storage it stank up my entire basement!
Remember, moisture is your enemy for long term storage. A 5 gallon vacuum chamber will easily and effectively vacuum seal half gallon mason jars and evey other size needed . Much better than bags over jars..
I am assuming from the general message that using plastic containers (like Tupperware) sealed in vacuum bags would also be a viable option, so long as the plastic doesn't crush?
I've had problems before with vacuum sealing. I've had it get moldy, giving it a windex smell. I think it's an anaerobic reaction because of the lack of oxygen. Might not have been dried out enough is my guess to what was causing it.
Yes likelihood is it wasn't dried properly average is 12 days to ensure its well dried I have noticed with really dense nugs I have to dri it so much and then I place it in a paper bag to helps wick the inner moisture out some almost seems like the nugs were Slightly moistened as those nugs wick the inner moisture out to the surface
At the point of vacuum sealing the conditions of the bud should be "ideal" as the sealing process will preserve them. In a true vacuum there will be no air so the humidity packs would have minimal effectiveness.
Do you have any experience with storing ground herb? We're undergoing a study and discovered most of the degradation happens during the grind. We put whole buds in a jar and ground flower in a smoothee container and discovered that over the course of three months: THC is perfectly preserved and terpenes degraded slowly in smoothee container because of zero headspace. No need to vacuum out the air when the material completely fills the vessel :)
How can you hold the desired 62% humidity in the product if you vacuum the air? As I know the vacuum will dry the product, simply said it is sucking humidity from inside the bud to its outside
@@DeBaccoUniversity As air is pulled out of the system, the pressure in the system drops below the air pressure outside. In other words, a vacuum has less than atmospheric pressure. Lower atmospheric pressure means a lower boiling point of water. If you want to vacuum dry a product you use this effect by sending additional heat waves to the product and let it steam at 30-40°C, high-energy water molecules diffuse to the surface of the product and evaporate due to the low pressure. Vacuumized vegetables are cooled down to 3°C to avoid the drying during transport (customers don't want to see a dried curcumber in a sweaty wet plastic foil). A vacuumized bud should be stored in a freezer to keep its desired properties, but keep in mind that trichomes like to break away in the cold, so defrost first, open pack second.
When you say vacuum seal jars. There are a couple ways. Which way are you referring to? Pull the air out of the jar like in this video ruclips.net/video/q4Rie59gp7g/видео.html or place the jar in a bag and vac seal that way you have in the picture in your video?
Either way will result in the same quality results. The one with the jars that have the lid to pull the air out do help increase the overall sustainability and eliminate the need for the bags, but both will work just fine.
Vacuum sealing is an excellent way to store it, but remember that THC breaks down from uv light--store in dark and cool area for best results
Good point!
Sorry but I just have to ask .. some people say that adding uv lights to your leds is good for the grow but then some people say it's bad for it .. what's the truth .. ? Thank you ..
@@GodSlayer-vq7pk All plants require UV while growing. Eliminating this part of the light spectrum is detrimental
@@tomsanders9491 Thank you for your answer .. 🙏🙌👍💯😊
@@GodSlayer-vq7pk Manipulating light spectrum can be beneficial and harmful. Blue light will stunt a plant (can be used to control height.) and after a couple months will kill it. Red light spectrum (including part of the UV spectrum) increases foliage and flower growth. A couple months of red light will finish a growing season nicely. Be sure to prune the rain leaves to allow light into the bush. Don't manipulate the light spectrum until after you have cut off the clones and always grow them in a separate chamber as the lighting requirements are much different. Clones require full light spectrum 18--24 hours per day for several weeks whereas flowering plants can only have light 12-14 hours before they revert back to foliage cycling at 15-16 hours per day. I was able to cause 2 30" tall indica plants to produce a quarter ounce of bud each week for 11 1/2 months. (I had to stop due to bug infestation.) I suspect that in a good chamber, you can cause a couple plants to produce each week indefinitely.
This is exactly the video I needed to see. I just got a vacuum sealer for this purpose, and I get to preserve my groceries, too ! Thanks.
Always great to know that people are directly applying the content presented!
Ive always vacuum packed me herbs and put them in the freezer ...never had a bad batch always fresh as can be ! I started doing it that way since 2004
Thanks for sharing!
I have done the same thing exactly as you.. never a problem. I found 2 seeds out of 15 oz's. I bought it from a buddy after I smoked it simply amazing in 2017 November I put 1 seed in water for 2 days couldn't believe it it's popping. The strain is Headband 22. I take what these people say with a grain of salt. Been growing outside for 45 years 72 now.
I started doing that a couple years ago and while it does damage the structure it keeps them sooooo fresh. The first time I popped one open after a few months of storage it stank up my entire basement!
Now way
@@breakthebank6086yes way. There is no air in a vacuum sealed bag, so no worries about the bud getting icy or wet.
Ive been using Grove bags. Love to see a video on those type of bags for storage.
On initial review these seem like they would be effective for cannabis bud storage.
My friend thanks as always for the invaluable information
No problem 👍
it works good just don't suck all the air out
Air tight is key along with minimal light exposure.
Cool video 👍
Thanks 👍
I have an attachment for my vacuum sealer that works on mason jar lids. Works great
Great tip!
Remember, moisture is your enemy for long term storage. A 5 gallon vacuum chamber will easily and effectively vacuum seal half gallon mason jars and evey other size needed . Much better than bags over jars..
Good point to remind others about the moisture factor.
Great subject professor, and thank you for your work. But can you elaborate on where to store and what temperature would be ideal
Check out this video... ruclips.net/video/2tI5W_RGIuA/видео.html
Another great vid. Thanks
Thank you!
I am assuming from the general message that using plastic containers (like Tupperware) sealed in vacuum bags would also be a viable option, so long as the plastic doesn't crush?
Food grade plastic is the "best" plastic option, but also make sure the storage it out of harsh direct light for long term preservation.
Thank you for sharing
Thanks for commenting!
I've had problems before with vacuum sealing. I've had it get moldy, giving it a windex smell. I think it's an anaerobic reaction because of the lack of oxygen. Might not have been dried out enough is my guess to what was causing it.
Key is to start with clean product.
Yes likelihood is it wasn't dried properly average is 12 days to ensure its well dried I have noticed with really dense nugs I have to dri it so much and then I place it in a paper bag to helps wick the inner moisture out some almost seems like the nugs were Slightly moistened as those nugs wick the inner moisture out to the surface
Probably not dry
If the stems don't snap. It's not ready for sealing in with the mealer. You can't burp it...
@@robertthegrowguy7115 Depends on the humidity you're drying in and if you keep a fan on them. I get them dry in 5-7 days.
Random question. Can you vaccum seal your bud with a boveda pack with it or is it better to leave it out?
Technically yes, but the goal is to get the humidity correct and then seal it since once sealed the conditions should remain the same.
answers to questions=possibilities and outcome
So true.
Do you recommend placing the humidity packs in the jar as well or avoid using them with vacuum sealing?
Good question i would like to know as well
At the point of vacuum sealing the conditions of the bud should be "ideal" as the sealing process will preserve them. In a true vacuum there will be no air so the humidity packs would have minimal effectiveness.
@@DeBaccoUniversity thanks for the info, that should save me a few bucks!
I heard you should leave a little bit of air in the vacuum seal bag because weed needs to breath like diamonds
Do you have any experience with storing ground herb? We're undergoing a study and discovered most of the degradation happens during the grind. We put whole buds in a jar and ground flower in a smoothee container and discovered that over the course of three months: THC is perfectly preserved and terpenes degraded slowly in smoothee container because of zero headspace. No need to vacuum out the air when the material completely fills the vessel :)
Temperature can also play a role in desegregation.
Just got a mason jar vacuum sealer.
Just missing on ingredient;-)
What your feelings on the c-vault tubs that's what I use seems like it preserves it the best
These seem like a good system, but may be cost-prohibitive on a large scale.
I put it in a zip lock back then I vacuumed sealed it . Is that ok ?
In general it is ok but this system typically physically crushes (damages) the final product.
when is the earliest time after harvesting/drying/curing that it can be vacuum sealed is the real question!
Once the product is determined to be "finished" by the grower/producer.
Is the jar in the vacuum bag, vacuumed with a lid on it or just open top in the bag?
The lid is what is recommended to prevent buds from being physically damaged and adds another layer of protection.
What is best for Bubble Hash and Smash Rosin? I was told put in freezer
For that product, you have been told correct.
How can you hold the desired 62% humidity in the product if you vacuum the air? As I know the vacuum will dry the product, simply said it is sucking humidity from inside the bud to its outside
Vacuum removes the air, so the goal is to have the bud be at a stable 62% humidity and then you essentially seal it at that level.
@@DeBaccoUniversity As air is pulled out of the system, the pressure in the system drops below the air pressure outside. In other words, a vacuum has less than atmospheric pressure. Lower atmospheric pressure means a lower boiling point of water.
If you want to vacuum dry a product you use this effect by sending additional heat waves to the product and let it steam at 30-40°C, high-energy water molecules diffuse to the surface of the product and evaporate due to the low pressure.
Vacuumized vegetables are cooled down to 3°C to avoid the drying during transport (customers don't want to see a dried curcumber in a sweaty wet plastic foil).
A vacuumized bud should be stored in a freezer to keep its desired properties, but keep in mind that trichomes like to break away in the cold, so defrost first, open pack second.
I was just curious... Do you need an oxygen absorber in it if it's in a jar or do you need an oxygen absorber. If you don't use a jar
An oxygen absorber is not needed, but in some cases growers are sealing their harvest with nitrogen gas.
In addition, store in your freezer and it will last even longer.
Cooler temps will help increase storage life.
Does vacuum sealing once or even 3 times does it prevent smelling breaching out of the bag?.
This can depend on the type of bag used, but typically it will reduce the smell once sealed.
How do I as we’d have to be before you store it
No sure what you are asking.
Mildew?
If not present at time of sealing it will not be able to get in.
Put it in the freezer until all moisture is gone then vacuum seal who am I kidding it's never around long enough it's always in my pocket
Demand can often exceed supply reducing the need for long term storage in some cases.
When you say vacuum seal jars. There are a couple ways. Which way are you referring to? Pull the air out of the jar like in this video ruclips.net/video/q4Rie59gp7g/видео.html or place the jar in a bag and vac seal that way you have in the picture in your video?
Either way will result in the same quality results. The one with the jars that have the lid to pull the air out do help increase the overall sustainability and eliminate the need for the bags, but both will work just fine.
@@DeBaccoUniversity ok thank you
Do you leave any air in vaccum sealed bag? will buds fluff after opening?
Ideally no, and you want to seal in a container that will not crush the buds for the best long term storage.
@@DeBaccoUniversity too late. I screwed up big time. Thanks for response!