Set up is always mission specific. I ran fuel convoys in Iraq for 18 months between 2003-2005. If you got caught in a kill zone and had to un-ass your vehicle, all you had is what was on you. So I carried a double basic load. 12 Mags on my vest, 1 in the weapon and 1 on the but stock. Keep in mind your primary mission, as a transporter, is getting your cargo from point A to Point B, not to maneuver against the enemy, but suppress the enemy until a gun truck or QRF team shows up. Suppression fire exhaust ammo very quickly, but keeps the bad guys from maneuvering against you, until you run out...hence a double basic load.
Setting up my LE gear is something I still juggle around with being a rookie but also having a decade of military experience with a couple of deployments sprinkled in. They don’t correlate well when it comes to setting up gear IMO.
100% every setup is mission dependent, if you think about what the different rolls were overseas and what each guy would be carrying they weren't the same by any means. I am sure there was some crossover, but a medic and a breacher are going to carry different shit.
Realistic setup. Often times newbies think that carrying extra “just in case” gear is going to make them operate better. Secondly, the amount of ammo is realistic based on their LE mission. Thank you for sharing and keeping it real.
I have been running the BlackHawk first responder placard. It fits really well into the fast and slick set up. The only modification i made to it was the mag retention insert. If you run polymer mags they can get stuck using their insert.
Tell me more about that sling hook! I have tried many things to prevent the sling bite! You know, unless it's double-secret G19 classified type stuff...
People need to remember that plate carriers are not a one size fits all thing, if you are doing SWAT shit then I am sure this is plenty. But if you want to know what a Ranger uses when they are doing shit in country then you can check out people like Jeff Gurwitch who had lots of operational experience overseas. I have yet to hear a former SOF guy say that you can build out a loadout that covers everything, the message has been that your setup is mission dependent and you shouldn't fool yourself into thinking you can just copy something you saw on the internet and not put any thought into it based on what YOU will be dealing with. Plenty of great information out there, we live in a golden age of information with some very generous individuals who are willing to provide you as much as they can without getting themselves in trouble. Of course you can probably find out some of the more hush hush stuff if you go get training from some of these groups.
@@joehadenough1642 I use them for a belt setup and love em. As you probably already know if your carrier isn’t adjusted to your body on all sides all the extra movement can cause pressure points. Do you have the aero or classic?
@@joehadenough1642 Did you check for any slack on both front, back and side of your carrier? If the load is properly set around your entire body then there usually shouldn’t be any digging as the weight is transferred all throughout and not just the shoulders. Hope that helps!
@@joehadenough1642 I have a pair as well. They are murder for long durations as sold. Get some good 100MPH tape or hockey tape and tape over the scrapping sides that dig into your shoulders and neck. MUCH more comfortable.
Being slick and highspeed is cool and all until the opfor can actually aim and fight while using small arms capable of making that kevlar and UHMPWE turn into tissue paper.
Yeah thats how you know these guys probably do warrants for wannabe pot dealers. Anyone actually taking fire is wearing side plates, and carrying at least 5 mags. And i say this as someone who has been in a plethora of gun fights. Worst feeling in the world is running out of ammo
@@RickSanchez167 I dont think they would require as much ammo, 3 mags + 1 in the gun should be enough given police will outnumber suspects but given the unpredicatbility of the situation full upscaled armor should be used given they are attacking defended suspects and dont expect to be wearing the kit for extended length (nor moving in it much compared to military).
You guys really got thought into the things, I love that! i'd like to see more warehouse training while warehouse is open *hehe* maybe good for recruiting them while their size still small or so. ;)
"Primary threat is rifles" Him: ....doesnt have side plates, and carries 3 mags. Me: stops listening immediately. As someone who has been in a plethora of actual gun fights, you want side plates in CQB, and i would never carry less than 5 mags. The worst feeling in the world is running out of ammo
I never considered how much of my setup is constructed around time. I have water and snacks because sometimes I'm out for an entire day. If you're SWAT and you have infinite water bottles in the truck to access during a standoff, of course you dont need a bladder. Time is a great conscious consideration.
Only two mags? For a person that doesn’t know if he will be stuck in a room or building.. that’s a horrible idea minimal 3 mags and some pistol mags. Would love to see a duty belt set up.
My hook is exactly the same. I bought it when Botach had a "yard" sale in here Vegas. it was already attached on a used carrier. It has the inscription AE on it and that's it. I googled through a lot of photo, can't find the actual product online.
That steel hook makes it damn near impossible to switch the rifle between shoulders, doesnt it? Also, I decided against the Agilite due to them not having 11x14 plate size pockets available. I went with the AR500 Testudo Gen 2 instead.
Haw, colorist! :) Good review, and love to see the input from the people that do the job regularly for sure. Better than a dude throwing bottles of water on it. Also love the whole minimallst part of the review. Don't see that often either. Good stuff, Officer Tommy!
ich gehe mittlerweile davon weg 3 magazine vorne zu haben sie sind noch da aber - der plattenträger kommt über den smock und wo sind dann die 2x brusttaschen - sorry, da reicht keine adminpouch im plattenträger daher kommen vorne 2 grosse taschen hin darauf eine triple pouch und fertig ist es.
May have answered it but what is that sling catch called? Is that a piece your buddy and you made or can you purchase it? If so can you put the name of sling catch I appreciate it and can’t wait for the next video!
Remembering your old video you was talking about private policing with the trains in New Jersey and New York New Jersey got New Jersey Transit Police and they take care of all railroads and buses and that's even the regular railroad and New York got their police the Amtrak please so those are in private police what's the difference between these states and other states
I love how you sarcastically emphasized “part time team”. I think it’s hilarious that guys in the community now feel the need to say they’re on a “full time team” as if anyone gives a shit. Another ego stroke to differentiate themselves. Great video man!
I live in Milwaukee, student at UWM and I had a question. Is it possible to join swat when I'm in college. Does swat in Milwaukee let people do part-time?
You must be a police officer for a period of time (a number of years) before you will even be considered for special duties. I was a cop for 11 years and still couldn't get on my counties SERT/SWAT unit. Best I could get was drug task force.
Yep. I watch this kind of stuff so I can formulate counter plans for when the alphabet agencies get sent to confiscate our guns. So far, it seems like I just need to add side plates and carry 6 or more mags and I'll already be in a better position. I generally carried 8 when in the USMC with 4 more in my day bag.
Enjoyable video until you complained about the people you are supposed to protect and serve. Why do cops always have a chip on their shoulder about anyone knowing anything better than they do? Know it alls, or small penis syndrome? You only need one guess it's both. My other question is with all that gear & ammo what was the weight of that "minimalist" setup?
Set up is always mission specific. I ran fuel convoys in Iraq for 18 months between 2003-2005. If you got caught in a kill zone and had to un-ass your vehicle, all you had is what was on you. So I carried a double basic load. 12 Mags on my vest, 1 in the weapon and 1 on the but stock. Keep in mind your primary mission, as a transporter, is getting your cargo from point A to Point B, not to maneuver against the enemy, but suppress the enemy until a gun truck or QRF team shows up. Suppression fire exhaust ammo very quickly, but keeps the bad guys from maneuvering against you, until you run out...hence a double basic load.
Setting up my LE gear is something I still juggle around with being a rookie but also having a decade of military experience with a couple of deployments sprinkled in. They don’t correlate well when it comes to setting up gear IMO.
I'm just realizing how different it is myself.
100% every setup is mission dependent, if you think about what the different rolls were overseas and what each guy would be carrying they weren't the same by any means. I am sure there was some crossover, but a medic and a breacher are going to carry different shit.
Realistic setup. Often times newbies think that carrying extra “just in case” gear is going to make them operate better. Secondly, the amount of ammo is realistic based on their LE mission. Thank you for sharing and keeping it real.
keep in mind weight and speed were factors when he built it
Thanks, Tommy. Good video. A perfect example of what experience in the real-world can teach you.
I have been running the BlackHawk first responder placard. It fits really well into the fast and slick set up. The only modification i made to it was the mag retention insert. If you run polymer mags they can get stuck using their insert.
Tell me more about that sling hook! I have tried many things to prevent the sling bite! You know, unless it's double-secret G19 classified type stuff...
People need to remember that plate carriers are not a one size fits all thing, if you are doing SWAT shit then I am sure this is plenty. But if you want to know what a Ranger uses when they are doing shit in country then you can check out people like Jeff Gurwitch who had lots of operational experience overseas. I have yet to hear a former SOF guy say that you can build out a loadout that covers everything, the message has been that your setup is mission dependent and you shouldn't fool yourself into thinking you can just copy something you saw on the internet and not put any thought into it based on what YOU will be dealing with.
Plenty of great information out there, we live in a golden age of information with some very generous individuals who are willing to provide you as much as they can without getting themselves in trouble. Of course you can probably find out some of the more hush hush stuff if you go get training from some of these groups.
Plate carrier is an Agilite K19 carrier with their minimal cummerbund with an AMAP III backpanel on the back.
The Qore Performance Ice Vents are a game changer for padding and ventilation. They would be perfect for the shoulders.
You like them? I don’t know even with a proper combat shirt they seem to dig in a little bit. I have a set
@@joehadenough1642 I use them for a belt setup and love em. As you probably already know if your carrier isn’t adjusted to your body on all sides all the extra movement can cause pressure points. Do you have the aero or classic?
@@Steven_M. I have the classic heavy load out version
@@joehadenough1642 Did you check for any slack on both front, back and side of your carrier? If the load is properly set around your entire body then there usually shouldn’t be any digging as the weight is transferred all throughout and not just the shoulders. Hope that helps!
@@joehadenough1642 I have a pair as well. They are murder for long durations as sold. Get some good 100MPH tape or hockey tape and tape over the scrapping sides that dig into your shoulders and neck. MUCH more comfortable.
7:02
You mentioned they're primary threats are explosives and rifle rounds.
Perhaps he should change the side armor to hard level III+ or IV plates?
Being slick and highspeed is cool and all until the opfor can actually aim and fight while using small arms capable of making that kevlar and UHMPWE turn into tissue paper.
Yeah thats how you know these guys probably do warrants for wannabe pot dealers. Anyone actually taking fire is wearing side plates, and carrying at least 5 mags.
And i say this as someone who has been in a plethora of gun fights.
Worst feeling in the world is running out of ammo
@@RickSanchez167 I dont think they would require as much ammo, 3 mags + 1 in the gun should be enough given police will outnumber suspects but given the unpredicatbility of the situation full upscaled armor should be used given they are attacking defended suspects and dont expect to be wearing the kit for extended length (nor moving in it much compared to military).
You guys really got thought into the things, I love that! i'd like to see more warehouse training while warehouse is open *hehe* maybe good for recruiting them while their size still small or so. ;)
We need more videos like this
Last time you did review on the K5 carrier, you convinced me to buy it. And now convinced me to buy the K19 lol
You seem to be very influenceable.
"Primary threat is rifles"
Him: ....doesnt have side plates, and carries 3 mags.
Me: stops listening immediately.
As someone who has been in a plethora of actual gun fights, you want side plates in CQB, and i would never carry less than 5 mags. The worst feeling in the world is running out of ammo
He very clearly has side plates
@@doggystyle454 no he has soft armor in the sides
I never considered how much of my setup is constructed around time. I have water and snacks because sometimes I'm out for an entire day. If you're SWAT and you have infinite water bottles in the truck to access during a standoff, of course you dont need a bladder. Time is a great conscious consideration.
Only two mags? For a person that doesn’t know if he will be stuck in a room or building.. that’s a horrible idea minimal 3 mags and some pistol mags. Would love to see a duty belt set up.
My hook is exactly the same. I bought it when Botach had a "yard" sale in here Vegas. it was already attached on a used carrier. It has the inscription AE on it and that's it. I googled through a lot of photo, can't find the actual product online.
I got the K19 gen.3 in black 😊👌🏻
Same here bro I love it.
Any help on that sling hook? Neat piece of kit my neck would love for me to buy. Thanks
"spider monkey somebody gave an energy drink to" LOL!
That steel hook makes it damn near impossible to switch the rifle between shoulders, doesnt it? Also, I decided against the Agilite due to them not having 11x14 plate size pockets available. I went with the AR500 Testudo Gen 2 instead.
Hey man, dunno if you'll get this. But what are them extra gel pads? In the market for some more cushion
Are there snack bags and centralized water that the SWAT guys have access to?
Yes, good idea.
We keep ice cooler in our bearcat when we are working.
What tf is this, kindergarten? No wonder y'all suck so much at your jobs and crime rates are at all time highs.
Haw, colorist! :) Good review, and love to see the input from the people that do the job regularly for sure. Better than a dude throwing bottles of water on it. Also love the whole minimallst part of the review. Don't see that often either. Good stuff, Officer Tommy!
What’s wrong with carrying water with you?
Does most SWAT use NIJ 3 or 4 plates. My county swat uses safeline’s FRAS i heard lol
ich gehe mittlerweile davon weg 3 magazine vorne zu haben sie sind noch da aber - der plattenträger kommt über den smock und wo sind dann die 2x brusttaschen - sorry, da reicht keine adminpouch im plattenträger daher kommen vorne 2 grosse taschen hin darauf eine triple pouch und fertig ist es.
Who makes those gel shoulder pads? I could totally see those on my camera bag and my main tool bag.
HSGI
Great video!
Would definitely like to know where I can get one of those shoulder hooks for the sling?? Thanks!
He said that he "tactically acquired" them. meaning he somehow took it off from something. Lol
@@user-it4nx3fv2x 🤣👍
Strike Industries make something similar
May have answered it but what is that sling catch called? Is that a piece your buddy and you made or can you purchase it? If so can you put the name of sling catch I appreciate it and can’t wait for the next video!
Strike Industries make something similar
Remembering your old video you was talking about private policing with the trains in New Jersey and New York New Jersey got New Jersey Transit Police and they take care of all railroads and buses and that's even the regular railroad and New York got their police the Amtrak please so those are in private police what's the difference between these states and other states
I love how you sarcastically emphasized “part time team”. I think it’s hilarious that guys in the community now feel the need to say they’re on a “full time team” as if anyone gives a shit. Another ego stroke to differentiate themselves. Great video man!
Tactically acquired bullshit!! We need to know about that steel clip for the slang!!!
Strike Industries make something similar
Love this set up and the plate carrier but isn't it a problem that there is no protection on both sides ?
6:49 he mentions there’s soft body armor on the sides
where did the steel hook come from?
He said that he "tactically acquired" them. meaning he somehow took it off from something. Lol
Strike Industries make something similar
Where's the paint can opener?
Hello, Tommy! Where we can buy those police pathces?
They are from "tactically suited" www.tacticallysuited.com/collections/patches-and-embroidery
Pe Amazon gasesti o gramada de chestii.
where do I find the shoulder hook for the sling?, I've been looking for them, and I can't seem to find them.
Strike Industries make something similar
@@kingofzion Thank you
Arlyfreefieldtrainng
Anyone know where can I get that steel hook for keeping my sling off my neck?
Strike Industries make something similar
I live in Milwaukee, student at UWM and I had a question.
Is it possible to join swat when I'm in college. Does swat in Milwaukee let people do part-time?
You must be a police officer for a period of time (a number of years) before you will even be considered for special duties. I was a cop for 11 years and still couldn't get on my counties SERT/SWAT unit. Best I could get was drug task force.
Dude no lol.
What you got so much stuff because you got a lot of job you like your jobs and I'm a big fan I'm a big fan and I love your videos 🤩 I got
Who makes the gel shoulder pads?
HSGI
This isn't Multicam Black so I can't really take it that seriously.
Jesvin
You're gonna need more ammo and training, Redcoat.
6:32 speak for yourself
It is very important to be well armored when trampling all over people's Fourth Amendment rights.
Yep. I watch this kind of stuff so I can formulate counter plans for when the alphabet agencies get sent to confiscate our guns. So far, it seems like I just need to add side plates and carry 6 or more mags and I'll already be in a better position. I generally carried 8 when in the USMC with 4 more in my day bag.
@@smithsmith1956 Taut fishing line, weakened floorboards, and IR strobes will absolutely destroy any home invasion unit
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Enjoyable video until you complained about the people you are supposed to protect and serve. Why do cops always have a chip on their shoulder about anyone knowing anything better than they do? Know it alls, or small penis syndrome? You only need one guess it's both. My other question is with all that gear & ammo what was the weight of that "minimalist" setup?
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