Orval (a beer geek's guide to Trappist Beer ep3) | The Craft Beer Channel
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 2 май 2023
- It's the third in our series all about Trappist beer - beers made in Trappist monasteries under the supervision of monks for good causes. This time we're looking at one of the most iconic beers in the world, Orval! Join us to learn the story of the fish, why cleaning your fermenters can be a bad idea, and about how Orval is dry hopped!
Support us on Patreon (get cool merch): / craftbeerchannel
Buy our favourite craft beer gear!
Our first book, Beer School: amzn.to/3lqF0kd
Our second book, The London Craft Beer Guide: amzn.to/3nn8VLQ
Best bottle opener ever: amzn.to/2EEW0QF
Our camera: amzn.to/2JHJsfk
Best lens ever: amzn.to/30MszWl
Our second fav lens: amzn.to/30P5yC0
Best shotgun mic ever: amzn.to/2JHlGQX
Lapel mic for your phone (!): amzn.to/2MdgA0V
FOLLOW US!
Twitter - @beerchannel
Facebook - / thecraftbeerchannel
Instagram - @craftbeerchannel @jonnygarrett @mrbradevans
Remember to drink responsibly(ish) and not be that guy... 
Хобби
Being a post-grad student in economic history, I know the amount of research and effort it takes to do justice in representing the long history span of something. And you sure did do the history justice. So well narrated and effortlessly explained! Love the balance these historic episodes bring to the channel. Keep it up!
Thanks so much Kaveendra! This took a long time to get right in the research, on the day and in the edit!
Agreed. I'm sure it is a lot of work but I always love to hear the backstory of the beers. Thanks chaps!
AI.
I visited the abbey in 2019 on a bicycle trip to Trappist breweries in Belgium and The Netherlands. I was able to sit next to the spring where the trout found the ring. Unfortunately, I didn't get to see the toilet where her husband was speared. Now THAT would have been worth seeing! Also, the Petite Orval on draft was AMAZING! Another great video!
Not sure he was speared on site... I think it was at his home.
I wasn't sure if you were going to continue this series or not. Thank you so much for picking it back up and spreading the word! I adore Trappist and Belgian beer and think more people should know about it!
A Blue Chimay (9% ABV) is priced at almost $10 for a small stubby (330 mL)
Only flaw is the high price.
@@PetraKann oh wow. Belgian beer is disproportionately inexpensive in the UK and Ireland (and probably most of the rest of Europe). Supermarkets often sell Belgian beer for around $3 for 330ml. I assume the import charges must be high but not sure if it's import tax or shipping.
It is the alcohol duty and VAT in the Republic of Ireland and UK
@@oscarosullivan4513 but that's much higher in UK and Ireland isn't it? Wouldn't that make Belgian beer more expensive?
@@oracleoftruth I assume Alchaeon is in Australia like me as that's what I recently saw it on sale for, and it's a combination of import/shipping fees and Australia having weird alcohol tax laws that tax beer and spirits very highly and wine a lot less.
I lived in Belgium as part of a business rotation and made it my quest to visit every Trappist brewery there. Orval is, above and beyond, my favorite beer is the world. Just amazing! It is waaaay in the boondocks of Belgium. Took quite an effort to,go to the Ardennes to see it.
But, like a t bone steak, you can only have 1 or 2 …;-) … per sitting. Super powerful and complex taste. I also used Michael Jackson’s guide to beer as my guide as I navigated Europe.
Trappist and Belgium beers are my favorite. Thanks for sharing!
Nice, for me
Belgian
German
English
In that order
My wife has only raided my beer stash once, she saw loads of Orval and assumed I wouldn’t miss one, managed to take my oldest bottle, also 2016, so nice to enjoy it with you boys vicariously. And could you do next one in monk outfits, with or without skateboards (preferably with)
Damn I hope she enjoyed it!
I was able to put my hands on 4 bottles. Absolutely delicious. After trying the first one, I was able to collect the dregs of the other three. Needless to say, a brew project is in the works! Cheers 🍻
Absolutely loved this episode of the cult classic beer. There is truly nothing like it. Got ten bottles in my stash at the moment, only 2 months old mind. Great insight and history lesson chaps. Love the bottles and always save them for homebrew!
One of my favourite beers ever. Complex, yet super drinkable.
Love me a fresh bottle of Orval, had a 2 monther and it was amazing
I had to run out and buy a few Orval's to rewatch this. What a history lesson! Thanks Brad (and Jonny ;)
Great to hear more about the crazy history. Details of the process are very interesting and well explained at the visitor center. Small correction, it's not Petit Orval, but Orval Vert (meaning green) and it's a Patersbier (trappist single).
What a show! Love this series!! Love Trappist ales. :)
This channel is fantastic. I appreciate ALL of your content please keep it up
skate monks is absolutely the name of my next belgian homebrew
One of my favorites, I store quite a few in the cellar. I can't wait for the other trappist! 😁
Fascinating. I always thought Orval was the closest in style to a British beer, now I know why. Excellent series.
Great video on the history of Orval, might buy a few bottles & save them for few years just to see the flavour profile
I think you're spot on with the hop monk bro's. I visited Orval last month and drank a green Orval they only serve at the restaurant near the Abbey. It tasted like a dry hopped American pale ale. I did not expect that! It was delicious. If you're there make sure to try it.
Brilliant video! Thanks for these.
Now I have to buy some Orval. Haven't had one in a while. Great video!
Great history!
I have a few aged orvals that I should start consider drinking (2017/2018/2019), will do and see if i find this jammy-fruity -oxydated notes thay you had with your 2016 one
My all time fav beer got loads of different vintages in the cellar. Great that you guys are doing this series, only gripe is that you didnt source the glassware!
love this channel love your content
The king of beers! Maybe? Yes. Great episode anyway fellas. Thanks for reminding me i need to stock up.
Cracking video, forgot just how amazing Orval is!
I reckon you should approach Lego. A new series of mini-figures - the Monk Series!! Brew Monk, Admin Monk, Scuba Monk, Business Monk....!!!! It's an irresistible proposition - endless opportunities to extend the Monking Series!! Stop Monking around and get on the blower to Lego!!
Haha. I know this is a joke, but as a friend of the guy who runs the excellent Beer Farts insta which tells the story of beers through lego, I know that the company won't work with any alcohol brands. Their loss! The Brew Monk range would be killer.
Since watching your old video trying 3 vintages of Orval in Lockdown I've been buying a bottle every year for the #beerstash! 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022 so far. Was going to stop at 5 years (i.e this year) but after watching this it sounds like 7 years may have to be the way forward 😂
Man the quality and depth of this channel just keeps increasing, you are beating out actual television in quality and focus. Not all episodes are like this, or should be but damn you are killing it.
Thanks so much! Always trying to up our game especially with the history episodes!
After 4 years, the "Brett" kicked in yo!😂🍻
Its here!! Wahoo!
I home brew and can make some decent Belgian style beers. But Orval is difficult. I haven’t made one even close. And yes I’ve tried using Brett for secondary ferm and/or the bottle conditioning side of it. Still no luck.
Delicious. I have a - what for it - whisky barrel aged imperial stout braggot with brett in the cellar. What do you think the brett might do to such a mammoth beer as it continues aging?
Many years ago, I tasted one Orval 16 years old!!!
I'll join Patron to keep the shenanigans going 😂
Did you guys record a lot of videos in a row, the same day or does Johnny really love his Budvar-shirt?
Haha we always bulk record so we are in the ZONE! Sometimes we change outfit, sometimes we get over excited and forget.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel Damn! And you guys drank some heavy beers in the last couple of videos! The day after must have been heavy. 😅
Johnie and Brad, I’m outfitting my taproom with 16 oz and 12 oz glassware it I’d love your input on glass style/shape.
Willi Becher for pints, stemless wine glasses (like what we use) or Brussels shaped goblets for everything else! We will eventually do a video on glassware, just trying to get it right
On a sad note : they changed the processes/recipe during the last ten years : for starters, they now filter the water and add back the salts later to adjust for the water profile, but they still lose some minerals in the process. And secondly, the "garde" is only one/two weeks long instead of 2/3 month (not sure of the exact durations, but you get the idea). That doesn't diminish the work of the brewmistress (?) in any way, who has an enormously tremendous knowledge of brewing.
The yeast and rafters story is how Cantillon developed their yeast character I believe.
It's definitely an Orval story, but also a cliche that a lot of breweries have used.
LoL 😂 Would be a great name for a Beer 😉🍻. Scuba Monk 😁.
I’ve had on Orval Day an Orval that sat for 6 months in my cellar, and it was delicious. 😋😋😋😋 It was the first time that I’ve aged an Orval. I will age more bottles in the future. I’ve also got a book at home that’s called Trappist the ten wonderful beers by author and one of the owners of the Glazen toren brewery Jef van den Steen who got to visit most of the Trappist monasteries and tells about their history and their beers, I’ve got to mention that the book is dated a bit, because he went to Spencer trappist brewery and to Achel which aren’t trappist breweries anymore. I believe that the book is from 2015, back then those two were still considered to be Trappists and Tynt meadow and Tre fontane didn’t exist then yet. It’s pretty interesting, I would recommend it to anyone who is interested in the history of the Trappist monasteries and their respective breweries.
Aging Orval is sublime!
@@bogdanradoi590 yes indeed, it is!
That book is amazing and where a lot of this info came from. I met Jef once when I toured his brewery. He is... well... the experience will stay with me for a long time. A true Belgian brewer if ever there was one.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel wow cool Jonny! Would love to meet him, I really love his way of writing regarding the Trappist monasteries with their respective monastery. His knowledge is amazing!
I apologize this has nothing to do with Trappist beers but it is your most recent so I thought I would throw you guys a question about A Yank going over to Dublin and doing a Craft brewery tour... Any suggestions on where to start? Is there a tour company that specializes in doing it right? Thanks
I’m local Porterhouse temple bar, underdog legal eagle, JR Mahon’s, The Four provinces, Doyles of fleet street, the Galway bay brewery pubs, and Dunphy’s of Dun Laoghaire
@@oscarosullivan4513 Thank you!!!
All good recommendations! I'd add the Whiplash bar, Fidelity, and the Palace bar for Guinness.
What hops are used to make it? Also this may be controversial but would love to see new world hops being used like Nelson Sauvin
Their website tells me Bavarian Hallertau, the Slovenian Styrian Golding and the Alsacian Strisselspalt
How about combining the Trappist angle with Doppelbock and do a vid on Andechs Doppelbock?
Well they aren't trappists but it might well be worth a video about abbey beers once we're done with the Trappists!
Great vid as usual. I love a Trappist beer but have you tried beers brewed or under the supervision of Jedi’s? Obiers 😉 🍻😋#oneforbrad
I’ve listened half a dozen times and can’t figure out when your bottle was brewed? 202012? 😂 2:09
Haha apologies. December 2022.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel don’t apologise, I found it funny! 🍻
Sorry to be that guy but sure we're all geeks here: the process of carbonation described is spunding not krausening. Krausening is when instead of adding sugar you add wort to carbonate (for reinheitsgebot reasons i assume). Fermenting under pressure to carbonate (or for other reasons) is spunding. I'm 100% sure Johnny knows this and just said the wrong word.
Totes apologies! Even clocked it in the edit and forgot to amend in subtitles!
Can you review Worthington White Shield
If we can find an angle, sure!
24:30 must be the aftertaste of trout that puts people off
You didn't get any of the sediment from the 7y old bottle 😢
I mean it's all down to taste, but we don't like pouring the sediment into our beers, and the bottle tells you not to drink it either so we try to drink as the brewer intended!
@@TheCraftBeerChannel Each his own I suppose, but I find there's a lot of flavour in the sediment. Usually all the good stuff.
Am I the only one hearing the first one was brewed in “December 202012” ?
Love the Oval beer and cheese, but the visit to the monastery/ brewery was a bit underwhelming.
Indeed, thought Orval is one of the more open monasteries. we have to respect that their main focus is their way of life, not tourism.
I like the Term! I will have a Crack At It! 🤔😲✌️😎
Plot twist: God was the trout
Mind blown.
This might be controversial…Orval is my least favourite of the trappist beers. But still interesting to watch.
I agree, though I haven't had anything from Tre Fontane yet.
@@Zepp914 I should've added trappist beers of Belgium. I also have not had Tre Fontane.
But it's the best. Which one is your best?
It's not that weird and I didn't like it at first either. It grew on me and is probably my go to beer now in any regular or traditional beer bar here in Belgium. The Tre Fontane ones are interesting as they are very herbal. The few one-of beers they brewed did interest me a lot more though. They did a collab with Westmalle that was just mind blowing.
@@Doupyourflies It is very difficult for me to answer which one is the best. Ito Tripel, it is Chimay. Dark strong/Quad, I am not so sure. Probably between Rochefort 10 or Westvleteren 12, but I also enjoy Chimay Blue. I have never had them side by side to truly try to decide on a favourite. My favourite Belgian styles in general is dubbel and dark strong/quad.
Orval has that weird funky taste I don’t like. Give me Chimay or St Bernardus any day over it.
British people just casually making imperial and metric conversions in their head
Nickelback
Orval has a sublte aroma of horse crap. It has not been my favourite trappist beer.
Up there with some of the worst takes in the history of RUclips. Good going to be fair
Don't mean to brag, but I'm going to Unibroe Brewery this week 😂