Here's why you don't put an aftermarket stereo in a Ferrari
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#Ferrari #FerrariDealer #AftermarketElectronics 
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Ferrari owner: I want a stereo with bass that hits so hard it will blow the windows out.
Stereo shop: We can do that.
Seeing this comment made me think of a scene from DC Cab where Gary Busey's character is blasting the new stereo system he had installed and blows out the windows....lol
For some reason I read that in Arnold's Schwarzenegger Voice.
I remember working at HiFi Buys in the early 2000s, and an installer at a different store ran into a small problem. The newest 7 BMW 745i had come out at that time, and he was installing something into it, maybe an aftermarket sub or something--I can't recall. But whatever it was, he accidentally tapped into the wrong wire in a harness, and it fried the harness and also set off the airbags. One of the airbags that deployed hit the installer and knocked him out cold. I believe the price to replace just the harness was around $4,500 on this brand new car. That was way worse than any mistake I ever made as an installer.
Reminds me of this Menonite dude that used to bring his tricked out Horse n Buggy to the Royal Farms to blast his system.
@@theriotartist hate to see what a short circuit does to Mr. Ed......
Should have taken it to Sounds Good Stereo in Woodland Hills, CA. We worked on high end cars all the time, including the 360 and 550 with zero issues. Most car audio shops have absolute morons for installers. 40% of our net income was fixing other shop's crappy work, lol.
Well seeing as that they’re in Central Florida, I doubt the dude would’ve taken it to Cali. Although, the dudes collection sounded pretty nice, so who knows.
Do you guys do all types like muscle cars or JDM or just European Sports Cars
Totally accurate. Majority of installers are hired because they installed a radio once so they have "experience" and they hire who will do the job for the least money. You usually have 1 guy that knows what's going on that the others go to for help. Central Florida is king of "I know a guy", where anyone you'll give $25 will put your stereo in.
Why not 40% of gross
@@K1ng1995 I haven't worked there in 15 years, but we did all kinds of vehicles. Classic cars, modern daily drivers, sports cars, boats, offroad vehicles, motorhomes... anything that could roll into our shop pretty much. Not sure if they're still around TBH.
Back in the day, Italian cars were notorious for electrical systems installed by a toddler group!,😕 Alpha Romeo and Lancias spring to mind
When I hear Ferrari I think car that will spend more time on a shop floor than it will on public roads. I've heard of one super car going 90k miles, a Lamborghini Gallardo. And then the motor had a nice valve dinner at 91k. Race motors are fun, till you realize they'll need head and timing work frequently.
So surely the dealer is at fault for not showing a new owner a specific starting procedure
Re the guy who couldn’t start his car properly. Sounds like the dealer may have not thoroughly familiarized him with the car or it was a private sale.
That's what I was thinking
So what is the proper procedure?
That's a design failure. Even if there's a reason to want a slow mode, the means of engaging it should differ from normal operation sufficiently that it should never be engaged by accident.
@@MatthewStinar totally agree!
Ok, I just searched all the internet and I could not find the "Incorrect" way to start a Ferrari. I don´t know what he is talking about. I know some cars like Bugatti and some Dodge cars have a switch or special key to get all the HP but I really can not imagine how can you start a Ferrari and only have 4 cylinders working!!!
Heres why you dont let the WRONG person put an aftermarket stereo in your Ferrari
My first thought was, "Did the shop not know how to disable the airbag when doing that kind of work?" Screwing through a wire and shorting everything out is more of, "Did the F***ing installer not know how to do their job?"
Exactly, maybe don't take your Ferrari to an audio shop that doesn't typically deal with those types of vehicles .
So Ferarri and automotive bigbox store parking lot mechanic is not a good combo?
@@lycossurfer8851 lol , best buy knows what their doing ok ? 😆
This is why, no matter the car, you disconnect the battery whilst working with electrics.
The first time I set off an airbag I thought, "That's the loudest speaker I've ever heard." Then it hit me.
They are single-use Subwoofers
Lmfaooooo
Yep, it literally hits you, right in the face!
boom - tish
Underrated comment
The real reason you don't install an aftermarket stereo in your Ferrari:
You don't own a Ferrari 🤣
"So we were putting some screws and the car imploded..."
Dealing with the electronic and build quality quirks of 90s and 2000s supercars is a very unique ownership experience but oh so worth it!
Hi Ed, I hope you have a great day :) you're a nice guy
Goodmorning ed
Can only imagine the look of the owner of the shop!!
I'm putting an sub behind my head and an amp in the frunk of my Aventador (if I ever get one lol). I've seen it done before. Don't get me wrong, I would like the sound of the V12 but I need my techno too
morning love the videos
Now I want the Italian dressed version of Hoovie on VinWiki
Who is Hoovie?
@@rickintexas1584 Tyler Hoover, from Hoovie's Garage
@@djsonicc thanks. I’ll check him out.
An Italian dressed version of Hoovie would explain the car that drove poorly but he would not have purchased a new Ferrari, only a hooptie .
@@velvetjones1856 I can see him now..."Weezard, Weezard....I broke something."
I worked for a Ferrari, Aston Martin, Jaguar, range rover, Lotus dealership from 1988-1997.
My job for the dealership was installing aftermarket sound systems, alarms, cell phone, radar detector, and TeleTrac.
Back than Ferraris did not come with a sound system. Cell phones started out the size of a small briefcase.
To this day it was one of my favorite places to have worked.
The ghost of Enzo was like you no like a listen my engine I’ma show you!!
My father in law has a 1982 Ducati S2. An amazing bike to experience and ride. I went to a ducati dealership, very nice, beautiful bikes on display, got chatting to the parts and service guy while sorting out some bits for a newer bike. 'Hey, do you guys work on older b..' before I could even finish he replied 'not the bevel drives' ( referring to the shaft driven cams of older ducatis).
Its not about taking it to a dealer necessarily, its about taking it to the right shop that knows what they're doing
It takes a good mechanic to know his limits. If a guy knows that "that" thing is above him, I'll trust that guy more than some guy who says he can fix absolutely everything.
@@Ephoros while I don't disagree, a dealership should be able to work on their own Marquee.
@@CrackedCandy agreed.
But as far as i can tell from a quick google search, those things are insanely complicated, and uses a ton of shims that can easilly ruin your day. My guess is that they probably can be talked into working on them, but they cant really guarantee work quality.
Finding some gray haired Italian engine guru would probably be easier and faster.
Ducati’s are like Italian women, passionate, highly strung and liable to breakdown in a spectacular fashion
Those motors were amazing
You know that the story’s gonna be a good one when you see, “ former employee” in the description of Eric. Edd’s given us some …
Indeed
Having done audio video for many many years. Installing on these cars is quite simple. Hitting the wire is just a careful job. The dealership technicians are usually no better.
Wouldn't it be easier to call ahead?
I was going to say, this sounds more like a careless installation tech than anything else
"Being Careful" involves having experience in understanding Ferrari wiring.....Indie installers, by their nature, will NOT have a wealth of experience working on various Ferraris.
@@Kidsinamerica in most high end cars from the 80s and 90s. Mind you I was out of the game around s 2003. The wiring was pure crap. Especially english cars. A good installer period would have no issue installing a head and Amp on any of those late 90s Ferrari or lambos
A test light💡 is all you need ,12v is 12v right, as your 💲💰💲car Now drives erratically to the Beat of your(poor) 🤣music of choice./.do not tap into ECM loom, aux. fuse panel access or to battery & always a fused zap
Hearing him describe the cars is so enjoyable. We get it.
Totally agree, his passion shines through and makes the story 1000x better
great story teller
The tittle doesnt make sense, it isnt the car fault, it was the guy that was installing it fault...
Wait so how do you start it “incorrectly”?
I always assumed you turn the key and press the red button on the steering if it’s not a normal key start model
I've worked on dozens of brand new Ferrari's, over the past 20+ years, fitting high-end aftermarket electronics. Never once have I had so much as a service code come up as a result of my work.
They may require patience and skill to work with, but that's certainly not the exclusive domain of a Ferrari service center.
Shame that lovely car was subjected to such egregious indignities.
I never heard anyone putting an aftermarket stereo in a Ferrari lol
I would just keep the original stereo and keep the OEM look imo
Or add something Bluetooth hidden in glove box or somewhere.
@@fastinradfordable Good point or use AUX if it had one.
Well if you go to a proper audio guy you can still upgrade your stereo and have an OEM look.
@@pherron7471 I think by now, there is a bracket & harness set for almost any car made right?
@@MikinessAnalog These days yes. The car audio industry had to up their game with all these new touch screen, control your whole car factory systems.
Never been this early
What is your dream Ferrari?
458
812 SF
F12tdf
Testarosa
488 Pista
I remember that American cars couldn't be imported into Italy when airbags first came out because they wouldn't allow importation of the"explosive" devices that set them off. I was shipping cars in the very early 90's, and it took a few years to get it figured out.
Love the videos, but we are due for a new Christopher Michales on again. I have watched the drug dodge video at least 20 times. He can really tell a story lol
...weird.
This has nothing to do with Ferrari, this could happen to ANY car!
Man, I bet that aftermarket audio shop had a field day with their insurance company.
I would pay a shiny penny to see security camera footage of the air bag pop. And you know you would too.
Regards,
Marky
You can short out any wire from stereo to amp and it will only blow fuses or stereo/amp will go into protection mode to stop any damage, I can guarantee the screw that he said sent through a wire would have been a yellow air bag wire when shorted to ground that would set of the air bags,or the installer lied and said the bags went of when putting in the trim screw and really he tapped into the airbag wire thinking it was a speaker and when turning the amp on that would have triggered the airbag pretty common fault when people try and cut corners, I run a car audio business
I've always wondered about this. My cousin's husband does sound systems and he wouldn't work on any of their vehicles bc of all the new electronics in them. He had the same thing happen in a CTS-V.
This has nothing to do with an after market stereo, it has to do with veing extremely careful with who you allow to work in your car if you are not capable of doing things yourself
I’ve owned two 360’s and it needed the key fob to be used to disable the security system before starting. There was no scenario where it ran on 4 cylinders so I don’t know what he’s talking about.
Man is it me or have these vin wiki stories been sucking the last few months? Like was this even a story?
I see a garage liability claim here to be filed against the installing shop. Gee, I just retired from over 40 years in claims, and I still look at the insurance angle...
im a med student knowing jack shit about insurance and still viewed this from the insurance angle. Kinda impossible to view this any other way, someone’s gotta hang for that lol
AV installation paperwork definitely has a signature section so that the shop isn't liable, pretty standard in the business.
That being said, so is making sure you don't drill into a wire, so who knows if the shop even had the waiver.
Never even practiced law but just from going through law school I cannot unsee the liability and negligence angles on everything.
I just redid all the audio in my F430, very straight forward!
The installer literally must have shit himself when it happened. Or he prob thought he was dead until his ears stopped ringing lol.
He probly saw Enzo
6 minute anti-tint and anti-audio opinion piece
As someone who's having issues with tint on one of their windows (reflected and focused sunlight from a neighbor's AC unit. Long story, don't ask.), I'd rather have the tint baked into the glass itself instead of the normal paste on tint.
Plenty of Mom-and-Pop-around-the-corner businesses out there could easily put dealers to shame in terms of their technical capabilities and work quality. That said, stereo installers have a really bad rep for really good reasons (there are exceptions).
A bunch of years ago I used to do vehicle conversions on direct import (grey market) vehicles. In order to pass emissions the fuel injection had to be modified. Often, the easiest way to do this (as OEM parts were generally not available) was with add-on systems that were connected to the engine ECU. After modification, the vehicles were tested at an EPA approved facility. It was such a facility that I saw a vehicle that had been modified with an add-on system for the fuel injection - connected to the ABS ECU rather than the engine's ECU. I always wondered if the guy who had done that job was a stereo installer in his day job.
Ferrari Owners Manual :
If you want to listen to the weather report, turn on the radio*. If you want to listen to music, start the engine, and drive the vehicle.
* DO NOT attempt to upgrade the radio, to listen to music.
Amen to that!
The real lesson here is don't let people who don't know what they are doing work on your car. My son and his buddy tried to install an under-glow kit on a Mitsubishi Eclipse he owned in the early 2000s. At some point during the installation process they drilled a hole from under the car, through the floor board, and right into the cars computer. When you are drilling holes in a car make sure you know what's on the other side.
Now that I've heard the story, I want to know how to start the Ferrari properly??? I bet I'm not the only one( talk about leaving yr audience hanging 🤔🤬😯😀)
What is the 'correct' starting procedure then? How would you get to run on half the cylinders. Doesn't sound right to me
it runs in limp mode essentially if you don't start it correctly
@@fcscouto Read as, poorly engineered car fails to start correctly.
When I was working for honda had a guy come in with a 2005 s2k he just bought 2 months ago. He said he got an evap code. Opened the trunk and it reeked of gas fumes. Pretty much looked at the ground screw they put in the back. They drilled into the gas tank when they did it.
holy shit... that must've *sucked*
a little jb weld here, a little rtv there... just like new! 😄
That’s dangerous too holy shit
I had this happen on a 2013 Nissan Frontier - customers took it to Best Buy to have a remote starter installed and they set off all the airbags
Who the hell brings a car to Best Buy????????? God damn that’s embarrassing as hell
Really pays to listen to your sales delivery person, when you pick up your car, Rj in Oz
I don't think comparing them to Hoovie as "an Italian version of Hoovie" is a good comparison and kinda a slight / insult to Hoovie. He might not mind, but, in my opinion, find a more appropriate comparison.
The 360 start procedure is you leave the key in the 2nd position for 30 seconds to let all the pumps get fully started then start the car
Don't know of you guys are searching for stories but, I accidentally broke commercial export law over a slice of pizza
That was not the fault of the aftermarket stereo though. A rule when working on anything is know where your screws are going. Especially with a car like that from that era. There is no way to confirm where any wire factory harnesses are ran unless you physically check for it first. But as far as electronics they don't know or care if it is in a Yugo or a Bugatti. Helps if the tech doing the work follows the rules. People should be able to upgrade their tunes in anything and not deploy airbags or break windows but a mess up like that can happen in any make vehicle.
Shouldn’t you vet these stories before you put them on your channel? There’s no four cylinder/half engine immobilizer on a 360! The remote is integrated into the key but it works EXACTLY like a 355/456/550 in that you have to disable the alarm before starting or it doesn’t start at all, period...it just cranks. I’ve been in at LEAST 15 of them and probably more, and a couple dozen Ferraris of that era (I work at a high volume exotic car dealer) and have never, ever experienced anything like what he’s describing.
And I’ve also seen custom stereos in Ferraris from a 512BBi to a 430 scud and everything in between...you just have to not be an idiot when you do it.
This guy doesn't know crap about the Ferrari 360. If you do not disarm it properly it DOES NOT start on 4 cylinders. (I'm a Ferrari 360 owner, 2000 Ferrari Modena F1)
I saw a 360 with air bag suspension, ugly custom color, matching 20 inch wheels for $36k. No one wanted it haha! This is why you don't mess with Ferrari.
So the aftermarket radio didnt tear it up, a bad installer drove a screw through a wire.
Change the title to Don't let a bad installer work on your car, period.
Just do your due diligence and research.... many great shops that can do an upgrade the right way ...
"Let the dealership work on them."
*Tavarish has entered the chat*
Underrated comment 😂
Speaking as someone that installed aftermarket stereos systems in cars of this level around that time frame, it's not hard to do you just need to not be a hack. I bet they fucked up stereo installs in Neons just as bad.
This would simply be the result pure incompetence that could have happened regardless of whether or not someone has done installation work on a Ferrari.
The installer could have just a easily made this mistake on any kind of car with airbags.
Doesn't wound like a Ferrari problem. Sounds like an installation mistake.. I'm sure the Ferrari dealership has made mistakes. At $300 an hour !
The reliability of these kinds of cars is honestly ridiculous...how hard can it possibly be to make something that just works??? There are plenty of powerful but reliable engines out there, and Ferrari makes none of em.
"Ferrari discouraged this" I wonder why...looks at 5K "premium" stereo option.
I remember the days when you had to use a bypass module and put the stock deck under the seat and install the aftermarket deck as some smarty at Ford put the anti theft module in the dam head unit thanks ford
A good installer doesn't run in sound systems with Tec screws. We use Rivnuts, we clearance everything, we use connectors rather than hack a harness.
Somebody just didn't know what they were doing lol
That Ferrari 360 in the pics was a friend of mines, great spec!
I'm guessing it was just speakers and tweeters? How TF does anyone mess up a simple install like that 😂🤦
2:23 best joke ever made on the internet
Sees new vinwiki video*
*Why you don't do **____** to a Ferrari*
Me: lemme guess it caught fire
This title should be "why you dont let incompetant people work on your ferarri."
Such a misleading title. He clearly said it that the installation/shop messed up during installation.
Maaaann I always put aftermarket stereo in my Ferrari’s
the worst part is the stock head unit in the 360s are garbage
he should have chosen a reputable, experienced shop. Careless mistakes like the one that installer made is an amatuer mistake.
Eric: "So in the year 2000..."
Me: "In the year two thouuuuuusssannnnndddddddddd."
Whats that in reference to haha?
@@theherrderr It was a Conan bit in the late 90's.
Don’t urban your Italian leave that to the basketball players kids!!
Great story, I actually feel sorry for that owner!! 😳
I feel sorrier for the shop that tried to install the stereo.
01 Audi immobilizer is a nightmare. Wouldn't wish that on my own mother in law
If you replace the stock radio on BMW E36, you no longer get the "audible alerts" for:
-low fuel pressure
-low fuel level
-low/high oil pressure
-freezing cold start warmup warning
-door open chimes
-and possibly more.
Friends don't let friends put janky systems in
I had aftermarket stereos in both my 97 and 98 M3’s and none of that happened. That chime isn’t integrated into the speaker system.
Why you don't bring your car to a incompetent audio installer period
Honestly tho that would happen to any car if you drill through a crash sensor
Great story. Great shirt. Thanks for visiting Athens.
In the immortal words of the man himself "anyone who buys my cars, is an idiot"
lololol "they demand respect", sure thats what we will call that.
My buddy’s 2019 5.0 10spd walked a stock 360 lmao. As a ford guy tho, id still take the 360 anyday.
F360= 3 ford mustangs,🤣
The not knowing how to start story reminded me of when I was in middle school my dad flipped cars and I worked on them. There was a v6 new edge mustang listed as a no crank no start. He won the bid for super cheap. Went to the lot and drove it out. It was a manual. Nobody in the entire auction house, nor the company selling it. Could figure out how to drive, let alone start, a manual transmission vehicle. We made a good amount of money on that car as there was nothing wrong with it. Perfectly running and driving vehicle. I honestly kinda liked it. Don't get me wrong. It was just the v6, it was not fast. However, the 5 speed trans made it very fun and exciting to drive. It gave that v6 some pep. I've driven a similar v6 new edge mustang but an auto and it was a total dog. Probably as slow as a Prius.
I just spent $700 to replace a $60 speaker in the door of my 575.
Honestly, why do you need any sort of sound system in a Ferrari? The sound of the engine is all the music I need.
Ferrari stereos sound like garbage, but don't go to an audio shop to have them upgrade it, go to the dealer for non-audio people to do it so they can tell you they won't do it. Ah the circle of life.
2:00 - Salesman's utter failure at time of purchase. That customer should have left the dealership with that knowledge, not just informed of it, but had it demonstrated by the salesman. Followed with the customer themselves doing it. Someone had terrible delivery skills. The customer had an even worse delivery experience.
The dislikes are the people who put aftermarket stereos in there own Ferrari’s
Yes, I realize the problem in this case was bad installation (running the wires under the trim pieces and not reinstalling the trim correctly). However, when it comes to possible issues, it doesn't have to be a Ferrari or other supercar/hyper luxury vehicle. Wiring aftermarket stereos into most cars can be problematic, especially if you're not careful about what you're doing. This is because it seems that each manufacturer has their own standards for wiring. This is nothing new. I remember the time I put a stereo into my brother's 1975 Buick Century to replace the AM radio. Two wires, yellow and grey, came from the original connector. Got positive 13.9 volts from the yellow wire and a ground connection from the grey wire, so I hooked the power leads from the new stereo up accordingly. Next time my brother turned the headlights on, the fuse for the instrument lights blew. So I double checked everything. Turns out, the grey wire I got a ground connecton on was actually the positive wire for the instrument bulb in the factory radio, and the radio itself actually grounded to the frame. Once I realized that, it was a fairly easy matter to connect the negaative wire to the frame (I'd used a two wire trailer connector for the power leads), but getting ground from a positive wire is still screwy.
The only way to work on enough of these cars to get real experience is to have dealers sending you work. Find out who your dealer uses for LoJack/radar detectors/etc and you've just found a shop with experience.
Damn, it almost seems like the dealership failed to fully explain a new car to the customer. I just bought a brand new Mazda. MAZDA. And the dealership spent about two hours with me making sure I knew every function and ability the car has. Seems like an exotic car dealership could do the same for cars that cost 10x as much
or guy said "i dont need any introduction, im rich and i want my ferrari" and they just let him go on his merry way, after paying for the car.
@@bedeckt That is also a very viable suggestion. I know how some guys buying a high class car want to seem like they know their shit, when they really don’t. But you’d think the dealer or someone there would see the dude couldn’t start it right when he left
Because it's tacky. End of story.
Interesting to see a Mama's Boy T shirt. Great restaurant. Had lunch there last weekend!
There is one shop in the world that does audio perfect,its called brian’s custom audio in The Netherlands.
Its crazy good
Hey Brian, how's the weather over there.
Ok, I just searched all the internet and I could not find the "Incorrect" way to start a Ferrari. I don´t know what he is talking about. I know some cars like Bugatti and some Dodge cars have a switch or special key to get all the HP but I really can not imagine how can you start a Ferrari and only have 4 cylinders working!!!
I disagree. This is just a case of incompetence. I love 550's!
My first guess before watching is...Ferrari will send you a cease and desist letter because "there is no such thing as a better radio than our factory system" and "if we dont stop this now, theyll be putting full sound systems in! And thatd ruin our rep"
Alternate title : "The Most Expensive Stereo Installation Ever". I sure hope the stereo shop had good insurance.
4:54 reminds me of when I put my service jack in the trunk of my xk8 and it shorted out the starter and alternator fuse. when I tried to start it up it just ticked.