Fantasy Archery: holding your bow sideways

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @josephschubert6561
    @josephschubert6561 Год назад +15182

    I like that the jarmakee looks 10x less practical than the sideways shot, but in fact it's only slightly worse than normal shooting and better than the sideways shot.

    • @nova_supreme8390
      @nova_supreme8390 Год назад +912

      It looks like it was made just to look cool as if the shooter was striking a pose while shooting. It would be perfect for a video game for style points while still being a practical style of shooting.

    • @gayusschwulius8490
      @gayusschwulius8490 Год назад +9

      It's funny, because movie directors probably decided against the jarmakee for that exact reason - in terms of allowing for the character to be fully seen and in terms of "coolness" it's at least on par to the sideways shot, but it looks so fake and impractical to an untrained person that they probably chose the sideways shot simply not to break the viewers' immersion.

    • @XonixDerps
      @XonixDerps Год назад +436

      @@nova_supreme8390 I can see a cocky archer character using it - they have the skill above most so settle for slightly less useful variant because they look good doing it lmao
      Though would make for a neat tip if they also mention as Blumineck did: "It gets you closer to full draw if needed quickly"

    • @kamikeserpentail3778
      @kamikeserpentail3778 Год назад +103

      I suspect it isn't always better than sideways, but it's still interesting how much more practical it is than it looks.

    • @Mainter23
      @Mainter23 Год назад +136

      You can say that it's better by the long shot

  • @sergeysmirnov1062
    @sergeysmirnov1062 Год назад +31469

    Jarmakee definitely is one of those stranger than fiction real things that, if I saw it in a game or movie, my instinctive reaction would 100% be "so fake, wtf are they doing" before then making an utter fool of myself when finding out that no, in fact, that's a real way to shoot a bow that has historically been used.

    • @crthejediknightninja
      @crthejediknightninja Год назад +1704

      It's actually really not much harder than a normal draw funnily enough, it's kinda like shooting behind your back in pool, if you are decent at pool it's something you can do.

    • @oOPPHOo
      @oOPPHOo Год назад +984

      I for one would never make such a mistake. Nuh-uh. No, sir. Not me.
      I am clearly a master of the Bow and That Pointy Thing You Shoot from a Bow.

    • @notoriousgoblin83
      @notoriousgoblin83 Год назад +672

      I like how there's an even more fancy looking shot that's actually more effective.

    • @mortache
      @mortache Год назад +1068

      Truth is stranger than fiction, because it doesn't need to look believable lol

    • @Meatball996
      @Meatball996 Год назад +347

      @@mortache that is some fucking wisdom

  • @PlayerZeroStart
    @PlayerZeroStart Год назад +9590

    It is so refreshing to see someone discussing about whether or not something in media is realistic without just devolving into "it's not what happens in real life, therefore it's bad."

    • @joelhoon1707
      @joelhoon1707 Год назад +487

      Instead it's "it could and might happen in real life sometimes, but it's... still kinda bad"

    • @SoloRenegade
      @SoloRenegade Год назад +15

      Lars Anderson has more on this as well

    • @bobbywilson7662
      @bobbywilson7662 Год назад +261

      oh man ive heard that excuse so much it makes me absolutely livid when they make that arguement, like i almost unsubscribed from Skallagrim cause every time something new would appear his first response was "it never happened historically" as if every single idea to ever be created was created before the year 1300.
      the guy from the slingshot channel disproved that whole concept when he made a magazine fed crossbow with medieval crafting methods, and it worked more effectively then a basic crossbow, yet somehow never existed in ye olden days.
      shadiversity thankfully never made that excuse tho so i had someone to watch while i was waiting on skallagrim to apologize (which he eventually did, lol)

    • @xensonar9652
      @xensonar9652 Год назад +174

      @@bobbywilson7662 Yeah, and not everything that ever happened was documented. I think there is value in just experimenting and seeing what could be done, rather than only sticking to what is documented.

    • @Ninjaananas
      @Ninjaananas Год назад +75

      ​@@bobbywilson7662
      Ancient China actually had a magazine fed repeating crossbow.

  • @miraihibino1277
    @miraihibino1277 Год назад +3818

    This guy just casually and consistently hitting the target while explaining is just so satisfying.

    • @defnotnaruto222
      @defnotnaruto222 Год назад +79

      And while his shirt if off 😊

    • @kbird2222
      @kbird2222 Год назад +55

      Maybe it's my quality but I can neversee where the arrows hit...just the sound

    • @kingsleycurrer
      @kingsleycurrer Год назад +93

      @@IBkeepingyesterday I tried to throw a balled piece o paper on a bin beside me… and I missed. WTH are you going on about?! This is amazing.

    • @r.r.r.r.r.r.r.
      @r.r.r.r.r.r.r. Год назад

      @@IBkeeping i'm sure he could do that too lmao. a target 60 yards away wouldn't have much use in a video where we're seeing if the arrows are hitting the target, would it? jealous bitter ass mf

    • @nanogibbon
      @nanogibbon Год назад +5

      Would thumbs up this comment, but it's currently at 666 and I don't want to ruin it.

  • @amysteriousviewer3772
    @amysteriousviewer3772 Год назад +1835

    I love how he explains it as though getting into epic archery duels is very normal and everyday occurrence.

    • @thebwahboi7616
      @thebwahboi7616 Год назад +143

      You don’t get into epic, fantastical archery duels every day??

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 Год назад +126

      He is English, so the chances aren't zero...

    • @saintsalieri
      @saintsalieri Год назад +43

      Is it an everyday occurrence? Surprisingly the answer is yes.

    • @SonicXRage
      @SonicXRage Год назад +42

      Any adventurer worth his or her salt knows how to down a couple of baddies with a bow and arrow. You can't rely on your dagger in EVERY fight, especially since some skeletons are actually fairly proficient with bows.

    • @poppers7317
      @poppers7317 Год назад +19

      ​@@SonicXRagedon't use a bow against a skeleton. Basic adventurer 101

  • @Datatwunk
    @Datatwunk Год назад +7818

    Thank you kind Wood Elf for sharing with us your elven knowledge of archery.

    • @kartikmishra1935
      @kartikmishra1935 Год назад +460

      Achievement unlocked
      'You have my bow'

    • @dischord4671
      @dischord4671 Год назад +58

      LMFAO

    • @daanfranken3520
      @daanfranken3520 Год назад +102

      Skyrim belongs to the nords!!!!!

    • @SirPano85
      @SirPano85 Год назад +5

      Then I would see a Khorne Champion teaching me how to deal with the neighbourhood.

    • @ReasonableRadio
      @ReasonableRadio Год назад +2

      ​@daanfranken3520 you are all citizens of the empire!

  • @Starlitsoul0359
    @Starlitsoul0359 Год назад +4898

    Jarmakee is the type of shot I’d look at an enemy archer doing and think.
    “Wow, that moron REALLY doesn’t know how bows work does he? Pfft, guess bringing armor was overkill for this lot.”
    Followed up immediately by being domed by the guy cause, turns out the only moron here was my ignorant self.
    If someone does something that initially looks odd, there are two options.
    They’re a novice who doesn’t know better, or they know a lot more than you.
    Never roll those dice folks, that’s how you get a nat 1.

    • @randomfox12245
      @randomfox12245 Год назад +419

      Ask any chess grand master: a novice who doesn't know any better doing something that no expert would ever dream of trying can still be a deadly opponent to go up against.

    • @Starlitsoul0359
      @Starlitsoul0359 Год назад +100

      @@randomfox12245 A fair argument indeed!

    • @demonderpz7937
      @demonderpz7937 Год назад +64

      Mfw being proficient in Jarmakee shooting grants advantage in this circumstance

    • @joelhoon1707
      @joelhoon1707 Год назад +59

      ​@@randomfox12245Guess I can now call myself someone who a Chess grandmaster would have trouble going up against. XD

    • @wesleyrose6315
      @wesleyrose6315 Год назад +98

      @@randomfox12245 "The best swordsman in the world doesn’t need to fear the second best swordsman in the world; no, the person for him to be afraid of is some ignorant antagonist who has never had a sword in his hand before; he doesn’t do the thing he ought to." - Mark Twain

  • @phillipmele8533
    @phillipmele8533 Год назад +2721

    I’m quite glad that you acknowledge the cinematic/visual reasons for the side draw in your talk. Visual shorthand in video games and actor expression in cinema are two important factors that can supersede realism in service to entertainment.

    • @sakesaurus
      @sakesaurus Год назад +63

      what's interesting is that the Mongolian draw also lets you show face while drawing the bow

    • @schrodingerskatze4308
      @schrodingerskatze4308 Год назад +53

      I agree. But I really wish some of them would have picked up that last way to draw, it just looks far too cool for not having been used and it also let's them show the face.

    • @ikillstupidcomments
      @ikillstupidcomments Год назад +65

      @@sakesaurus It would work well for cinema but probably not for stealth archers in videogames, since it would be awkward to animate and wouldn't look very good from either a first-person or over-the-shoulder perspective.

    • @JJOOKER
      @JJOOKER Год назад +9

      @@schrodingerskatze4308Its would look good in third person maybe but in first and if the game try to use the weapon sight to shoot its would look bad…

    • @schrodingerskatze4308
      @schrodingerskatze4308 Год назад +2

      @@JJOOKER That's a good point. But maybe we can at least see it in some movies.

  • @michaelblueknight1268
    @michaelblueknight1268 Год назад +653

    This video popped out of nowhere in my recommended but the amount of passion this guy puts in archery kept me watching the whole time

    • @Americanamae
      @Americanamae Год назад +4

      Right? Same! Must be trending 🤔 Hope I get more random great recs like this one 😃

    • @lorainisrael
      @lorainisrael Год назад +1

      Same here. Turned out to be much better, than some things I watch intentionally 😂

    • @althelor
      @althelor Год назад +8

      Lol same. I have never seen this guy before and don't ever watch archery videos, so I don't know why it was recommend, but he definitely had me captivated very quickly.

    • @ladyfox6705
      @ladyfox6705 Год назад

      Same haha! It's so interesting to hear him explain archery, and I do love using a bow in video games.
      He'd make a great elf!

    • @raysteal3
      @raysteal3 Год назад

      100%

  • @spaghetti_man3807
    @spaghetti_man3807 Год назад +755

    Nobody is talking about the tree shot? That’s some impressive strength holding himself up like that!

    • @wonderfulfable
      @wonderfulfable Год назад +199

      That's because he is also a very skilled pole dancer.

    • @FoamBanana
      @FoamBanana Год назад +99

      ​@@wonderfulfable I THOUGHT YOU WERE JOKING LMAO

    • @ralph2254
      @ralph2254 Год назад +37

      @@wonderfulfableholy shit it's true

    • @LilDP
      @LilDP Год назад +63

      @@wonderfulfablewhy is this more shocking than finding out jarmackee is real?

    • @meyr1992
      @meyr1992 Год назад +4

      if by impressive strength you mean “not being a lazy overweight blob” then sure

  • @nebulous9280
    @nebulous9280 Год назад +1644

    Never seen this channel before but I honestly adore how you're willing to strip off the shirt just to show your viewers how your muscles flex and contract when drawing a bow. Love the dedication.

    • @chrisogrady28
      @chrisogrady28 Год назад +302

      I enjoyed that part for other reasons

    • @LunaticLotin
      @LunaticLotin Год назад

      Man's literally flexing on us

    • @Sleepybrielle
      @Sleepybrielle Год назад +18

      That’s literally what I was thinking!

    • @RRRst97
      @RRRst97 Год назад +19

      Athleanx of archery.
      Holding it sideways killing your draws!!!

    • @Someguy028
      @Someguy028 Год назад +101

      @@chrisogrady28yea… I-I mean huh, what, no the dedication is the only reason why I like that part, no uh, no other reason.

  • @warenuhakuma1226
    @warenuhakuma1226 Год назад +7647

    One of the best videos made objectively.
    - Clear and well understandable.
    - No useless talking.
    - No sponsor.
    - Just facts.
    - Good audio quality.
    - Good video quality.

    • @troopermini
      @troopermini Год назад +87

      thats interesting, what is considered useless talking, at what point is it not considered engaging, and sponsors is apparently a negative connotation?

    • @KuroshYT
      @KuroshYT Год назад +160

      @@trooperminiBro is Starting to debate this Boy

    • @quentinrichard3568
      @quentinrichard3568 Год назад +51

      And great archery skills

    • @Gaze73
      @Gaze73 Год назад +110

      ​@@trooperminia 3 minute intro before making the first shot.

    • @RavenclawNimbus
      @RavenclawNimbus Год назад +46

      @@trooperminiI was thinking it was odd
      Like, “ugh, this person is doing something and they get money for their work 😤”

  • @solaireofastora5999
    @solaireofastora5999 Год назад +1302

    Jarmakee looks like a technique thst was invented out of either from boredom or accident but worked so well that others call the creator a genius in Archery

    • @shadowscall7758
      @shadowscall7758 Год назад +106

      It all started with "Hold my kumis" (Mongolian equivalent from that time period)

    • @BrBill
      @BrBill Год назад +43

      The archery equivalent of a behind-the-back pass

    • @Naietz
      @Naietz Год назад +66

      Before I watched this video and learned that this technique existed IRL I came up with an archer character who uses this style of shooting because her chest gets in the way of her shooting.

    • @GeekOfArabia
      @GeekOfArabia Год назад +43

      ​@@Naietzand that makes sense from a world building standpoint as well.

    • @Absoluuttinen_Totuus
      @Absoluuttinen_Totuus Год назад +44

      ​@@NaietzThat oc gotta have some ginormous honker badonkers😭 (understandable)

  • @lilhoss4reals
    @lilhoss4reals Год назад +84

    As someone with no experience in the art of the bow, I find it amusing that the jarmakee technique visually seems like an unreliable show-off trick shot but is actually a much more historically reliable shooting style when compared to the similar looking sideways kill shot portrayed in media that seems to be more practical but in reality is less effective than your lead to believe. Overall, an interesting topic of contrast with notes of irony.

  • @lisasophiekaps
    @lisasophiekaps Год назад +151

    All of this is mad impressive, but when you just suddenly dangled from that tree… that was soooooo awesome!!🤩

    • @notfeedynotlazy
      @notfeedynotlazy Год назад +17

      bear in mind, guy is actually a pro-level pole dancer and wants to show off a bit. Understandable, tho - you also would.

    • @kemalsenel4820
      @kemalsenel4820 8 месяцев назад

      He loves to dangle from things, and I love this channel because of it

  • @viablue8143
    @viablue8143 Год назад +3738

    Clear, to the point, no BS, no judgment. Just pure information and demonstration to clear up some misconceptions and answer some questions.
    Every writer’s dream when doing research (and when not doing research- I wasn’t looking for this but I’m definitely saving this for later use.)
    Instant subscribe.

    • @sebastianpadilla2975
      @sebastianpadilla2975 Год назад +20

      This. Thank you

    • @av3ngers17
      @av3ngers17 Год назад +8

      so lovely to find another writer here!

    • @kulonone3374
      @kulonone3374 Год назад

      Yeah unlike those sword nerds who always said "this move suck because i can do this instead" and forgot to describe the visual aspect of the move, fking elitists

    • @F-FL4ME
      @F-FL4ME Год назад +8

      As a writer i can confirm this and tell you i will add some of these informations in my next novel 😬

    • @Zindureth
      @Zindureth Год назад +6

      As a student going into video game design, I'm definitely saving this!

  • @olivewithana5185
    @olivewithana5185 Год назад +670

    As a competition shooter that always stand in a line with multiple other archers (in a pretty small range), we were taught not to 'tabletop' our bow like this since it messes with whoever is next to you and makes it more difficult for both of you to shoot. My friends and I, if we got the chance to shoot alone during practice, with only a few people on the line, would mix it up and bend the rules a little, just for fun (cross-shooting to someone else's target, trying to fire multiple arrows, which was pretty difficult with the compound bows we were using, other stuff like that which we would get in trouble for if we were shooting with others around or competing) and one day we all decided to try 'tabletopping' our bows and seeing who could score the highest. Shooting with a compound bow must make it a little more difficult to shoot sideways, because dang, we did pretty bad. I assumed there was no point to shooting like this, and besides, the line shooting etiquette forbade it anyway. This is the first time I've seen someone try it other than our little group and it's really impressive that you're still shooting pretty well. These videos are super cool, and it's nice to learn about all these new techniques, when we were only taught just a few.

    • @ChiliCheeseNuggies
      @ChiliCheeseNuggies Год назад +10

      super neat!

    • @Kyle-sr6jm
      @Kyle-sr6jm Год назад +8

      Traditional archery shooting off the shelf, does not suffer from having an elevated rest.

    • @---iv5gj
      @---iv5gj Год назад +2

      you should also try horse archery using the thumb draw

    • @Gamer3427
      @Gamer3427 Год назад +11

      I would imagine that trying to use a compound bow for something like this would be a lot harder than using a short or even longbow, due to how they work. Compound bows from my experience are more an "all or nothing" kind of thing, while you can more easily half draw other types of bows.

    • @ChineduOpara
      @ChineduOpara Год назад +1

      Its the difference between real-world archery and range archery

  • @bastienfelix4605
    @bastienfelix4605 Год назад +542

    I’m not a very good archer, but i usually shoot from a 45 degree-ish angle. It helps with aiming and lets you use your shoulders a bit more. With that said, the shot you showed is very fancy and cool.

    • @Fox-Mann-Fam
      @Fox-Mann-Fam Год назад +81

      This is also a great model for kids who are learning, especially if a) there's no arrow rest to hold the arrow in place and/or b) their bow is bigger than they are. Both my kids started this way before moving more vertical with practice.

    • @gayusschwulius8490
      @gayusschwulius8490 Год назад +1

      This is probably the most "intuitive" way to shoot and many primitive tribes do it exactly that way. Without an arrow holder, it is probably even the preferred version of shooting, no?

  • @fantasycreed
    @fantasycreed Год назад +126

    My BRO you just got another subscriber. I love your attention to detail, realism, and respect for an ancient practice. I absolutely love writing about medieval/fantasy characters, and I end up drawing many of them as well… especially with bows.
    You showing the engaged muscles, the different forms, and different shots that might be used is SO helpful, thank you.

  • @fauxshounen
    @fauxshounen Год назад +37

    Never seen this channel nor do I know anything about archery but this was surprisingly enjoyable. You were informative and to the point all while demonstrating the actual techniques discussed. No gimmicks, just fun facts.

  • @NoriMori1992
    @NoriMori1992 Год назад +1134

    Okay, movies and TV shows and video games _definitely_ need to start using that "Jarmakee" draw. It looks incredibly cinematic, and it looks _even more unrealistic_ and like something people would only do in movies than sideways shooting does, which will blow everyone's minds when they look it up.
    Are there any medieval fantasy movies or shows or video games in the works right now, we need to tell them about this 😂 I want this specific draw to be a trope 20 years from now! I want to be reading about it on TV Tropes because all the genre-appropriate fiction is using it!

    • @JJOOKER
      @JJOOKER Год назад +37

      I think that most companies know this by how much research they do but its would look bad in first person and in games that use the weapon sight and the cross that use to show where you re shooting would be in a weird place and the animation would be hard look how fast you shoot in those games imagine if the character use jarmakee for those shots the character would look hilarious…

    • @DanilegoPlays
      @DanilegoPlays Год назад +7

      Sideways looks way more badass

    • @Ctrekoz
      @Ctrekoz Год назад +3

      Hehe, you bet.

    • @literallythrowing3264
      @literallythrowing3264 Год назад +12

      Currently writing a book series where one of the main characters uses a bow. This fits their character so I'll totally do it! They're a bit young rn, so they proably wouldn't have learned it yet but we'll see!

    • @alexanderboulton2123
      @alexanderboulton2123 Год назад +4

      It looks like something a show-off would do

  • @solblackguy
    @solblackguy Год назад +239

    This is actually why early comic book Hawkeye actually had superhuman strength. He practiced aiming sideways with his bow so much that he can lift ~1000lbs with one arm.

  • @dagoonite
    @dagoonite Год назад +2975

    This video is a total flex. First you show the back flex, then the arm flex, then the knowledge/skill flex.
    Not a complaint! Especially the style I've never heard of!

    • @1world1heartjake
      @1world1heartjake Год назад +289

      Don't forget the tree shot

    • @aaronolson6736
      @aaronolson6736 Год назад +65

      I mean yes but he also made the video less than 5 minutes

    • @wilczus222
      @wilczus222 Год назад +77

      @@1world1heartjake I audibly gasped.

    • @StarryNighti
      @StarryNighti Год назад +29

      Also an ambidextrous

    • @artyomxiii
      @artyomxiii Год назад +28

      Also chest flex

  • @anxia-tea5846
    @anxia-tea5846 Год назад +8

    i absolutely love how he also explains the film reasons that they might do things incorrectly/less accurately before correcting them

  • @digbyskellington
    @digbyskellington Год назад +21

    This was ridiculously fun and interesting to watch. Count me among those who presumed that the sideways draw was pure filmic convenience, and it was fascinating to be proven wrong. Thanks 👍

  • @SocksAndPuppets
    @SocksAndPuppets Год назад +2796

    Jarmakee looks really visually interesting, as an artist I'd like to draw it with one of my characters at some point! Are you aware of any good visual references for it? It'd be pretty handy to have some high quality images to learn from (especially from horseback!)

    • @princeartimus6186
      @princeartimus6186 Год назад +284

      Ali Ghoorchian is a world champion horse back archer who has performed the shot. You could probably look him up to see more videos of it

    • @jeffbenton6183
      @jeffbenton6183 Год назад +55

      Honestly, this video seems to do the trick

    • @Nerobyrne
      @Nerobyrne Год назад +127

      It's really wild to me that I've been playing archers in video games for 20 years, and this is the FIRST time I have seen this way of shooting.
      I can only imagine that either nobody in the gaming industry knew about it because they based everything on European archery, or they thought it was too unrealistic.
      Despite being a real style.^^

    • @davidy22
      @davidy22 Год назад +10

      Does this video not provide satisfactory reference images?

    • @jeffbenton6183
      @jeffbenton6183 Год назад +42

      @@Nerobyrne Honestly, I don't think it even has anything to do with only looking at European archery. I think it's just a matter of not knowing anything about any history, generally (at least beyond the past 80 years, or so)

  • @theaureliasys6362
    @theaureliasys6362 Год назад +101

    This channel is just you showing off your skills in pole dancing and archery, and most important of all: posting thirst traps with the muscles you developed in the process.
    And we all love it.

  • @chrisdonovan8795
    @chrisdonovan8795 Год назад +149

    I have minimal interest in archery, but your video technique is very streamlined for delivering information. Thank you.

    • @TheEndKing
      @TheEndKing Год назад +5

      Streamlined, like an arrow hitting the target.

    • @Arkylie
      @Arkylie Год назад +2

      I have more interest in archery as a general topic and my favorite gaming styles, but I totally agree with the rest of your assessment and am about to subscribe.

  • @KodigoMadrid017
    @KodigoMadrid017 Год назад +12

    Take a like, a sub and my respect for not wasting our time and explaining so simply and deeply about the title's topic, of which I know barely nothing. Keep the great work!!

  • @l.ftshoe
    @l.ftshoe Год назад +1

    as a writer, I appreciate this video. now I can write characters who use bows accurately and make them struggle.

  • @randomcdude4430
    @randomcdude4430 Год назад +233

    Fiddling around, I have found that a sideways bow shot also works a kind of quickdraw shot if you already have an arrow nocked in Mediterranean draw and at the ready as it were. Tense the draw arm as you swing/extend the bow arm straight out. It's kind of making a pseudo crossbow. Is it ergonomic? Hell no. Is it supper accurate? Meh, good enough in a pinch. It is sort of an "oh crap they saw me! Shoot em quick!" kinda shot. A dynamic off the cuff shot to buy some time for a better shot or a getaway.

    • @useraccount333
      @useraccount333 Год назад +9

      So a "shoot from the hip" style? Not terribly accurate, but if you need to shoot someone/something NOW and you don't have time to line up a proper shot, I could see it having use.

  • @DracoInduperator
    @DracoInduperator Год назад +171

    You are so fit and strong. Those are some very impressive trees you got too, given how they supported your weight when you were just holding on with your legs

    • @TheRealMycanthrope
      @TheRealMycanthrope Год назад +14

      Guess you could say there were two strong trunks in this video

    • @woodsy4698
      @woodsy4698 Год назад +6

      You need to be very strong for archery

    • @MamadNobari
      @MamadNobari Год назад +2

      He looks really submissive and breedable

  • @LenKusov
    @LenKusov Год назад +147

    Back when I did a lot of archery, one of the competition courses I went to regularly had a lot of technical shots and I ended up getting pretty good at shooting sideways, it's a lot easier to control when shooting at high up/down angles or steep hills cause the arrow doesn't try to fall off the rest and it's pretty much the only way to shoot from something like low cover without stepping outside the start box or whacking your limbs on it. At the time I was also into blacksmithing, so while my BACK strength was trash, my arm and shoulder strength was such that shooting sideways was actually easier on me, and also meant that switching between sideways and traditional meant I could relieve whichever muscles were getting tired on a long archery course with a high shot count meant for lightweight compounds when I had an old Bear recurve. That course taught me a lot about the differences between bullseye shooting and practical archery, things like stringwalking, how to play the angles, and how horrendously even a tiny twig in your shot line can ruin everything (I'm still salty about how many arrows got eaten by the void because of a sliver of grapevine...)

    • @SandraNLN
      @SandraNLN Год назад

      That sounds so cool though, and like you gained a lot of practical knowledge. Target shooting is fun, but having a diversified course and requirements that demand extra aiming and technique thought sounds so much better (albeit maybe more frustrating). I'm jealous :D

  • @marianograsso4906
    @marianograsso4906 Год назад +1

    I don't know why RUclips recommended this but I'm grateful of what I just watched

  • @adventurekitty101
    @adventurekitty101 Год назад +1

    Got an answer to a question I haven't even thought about asking until reading the title and had zero time wasted to get the answer.

  • @klingon401
    @klingon401 Год назад +183

    I love how, while probably not intentional, he’s just flexing his body and skill while teaching and explaining. Honestly I can’t even get mad

    • @RandyRandomised
      @RandyRandomised Год назад +23

      My guy shooting a bow while sideways on a Tree💀

    • @drewg4323
      @drewg4323 Год назад +15

      It was 100% intentional lol. Taking your shirt off is not a prerequisite for shooting a bow 🤣

    • @shafaet1194
      @shafaet1194 Год назад +1

      ​@drewg4323 So? He's got an attractive body and he's flexing it, what's it got to do with you being so jelly?

    • @drewg4323
      @drewg4323 Год назад

      @@shafaet1194 Lol. The only thing I'm jelly of is those skills with a bow, I'd take that ANY day. Other than that, meh

    • @ArunaUtd
      @ArunaUtd Год назад +28

      ​@@drewg4323Nah but he was showing which muscles move when doing that type of shot so kinda had to be topless

  • @TheNightquest
    @TheNightquest Год назад +132

    I am not into archery myself... yet. But this video is absolute gold as a refference for animation or drawing in general. Thank you for the effort!

  • @Undedproduction
    @Undedproduction Год назад +74

    The importance of being able to crouch with a bow can't be overstated. One of the major shortcomings of the ancient atlatl was that you had to expose yourself by standing to properly use it. This limited its utility compared to a bow, which can be drawn in a crouched position and then fired. The bow was a huge game changer in both hunting and warfare for Paleolithic humans.

  • @Halibut86
    @Halibut86 Год назад +1

    Glad you actually tested this and other techniques instead of writing it off.
    In combat and sports, several unconventional techniques can be useful given the right circumstances!

  • @mizzwitty1042
    @mizzwitty1042 Год назад +19

    Wow, that was a very impressive video on all levels! 🤩
    From your shooting skills to your very vivid explanations of which I like most: showing the different muscles which are in use and shooting from a tree❤🤗💯👍

  • @earlymorning00
    @earlymorning00 Год назад +232

    One of the best videos I've seen. Very straight to the point, entertaing, structured, presents a clear thesis and resolution. Thank you, for being a real creator

    • @Toxicfox63
      @Toxicfox63 Год назад +1

      I feel like all of those could describe an arrow

    • @CHJ_3
      @CHJ_3 Год назад

      ​@@Toxicfox63An arrow could present a clear thesis and resolution?

    • @Enderito
      @Enderito Год назад

      ​@@CHJ_3yes

  • @hrpang
    @hrpang Год назад +361

    Honestly, Mongolian Archery is such a fascinating piece of history. The innovations they came up with weren't made for warfare, but it helped when they did use it for warfare.
    The Jarmakee was meant to help with animals getting a little too close to the guy on the horse.

    • @herm574
      @herm574 Год назад +15

      The mongolians just becoming the most fearsome force of war by combining some things pretty much every society had acces to at the time but in the right way is so dope.

    • @OathofthePeachGarden
      @OathofthePeachGarden Год назад

      They may have invented bio warfare by using plague corpses.

  • @peterheinisch2294
    @peterheinisch2294 Год назад +61

    Quick, insightful, and well voiced. You have made my day better with the knowledge that there is some practicality to the side draw, but it's basically for lower draw/less armored situations. The muscle comparison was also useful, as it definitely showed the difference in power from the draws.

  • @bob67497
    @bob67497 Год назад +3

    Thank you for that information about Jamakee- I have astigmatism in my right eye, so I have to aim instinctively anyways instead of sighting targets, and I've NEVER seen someone do that Jamakee maneuver before and it's AMAZING! I look forward to trying that out. Normally I hold my bow sideways and stand with my body bent so that I can draw the bow further into my space without any issue, but Jamakee may be a great way to get around this issue rather than the side-shot. That said, another great point with the side shot is that by holding your bow lower and horizontal instead of sticking it up in the air is that if you're hiding behind brush and picking your shot, it DOES actually make you less visible. Obviously it's not important unless you're firing from concealment anyways, but in that case, it's quite useful. Also, Jamakee seems like a great way to fire from behind solid cover without having to expose your chest unnecessarily to enemy fire.

  • @RayMak
    @RayMak Год назад +1

    Such amazing explanation bro

  • @rubenskiii
    @rubenskiii Год назад +33

    An additional reason why in movies this also might be used is because shot allignment is easier for actors who are not familiar with a bow, because the arrow rests on the wood of the bow and because of gravity naturally slides to the middle of it when holding it properly sideways (most bows in movies are based on modern bows that have handles carved out). For a film production having to do a shot over because the actor is fumbling with an arrow might get pricey real quick!
    That being said, theJarmakee way or archery would be very interesting in film because we simply don’t see it often or at all, while it solves the same issues as shooting sideways, like blocking the actors face. Probably why we won’t see it is the same reason why sometimes real life events actually have to be watered down for film because the audience would probably not believe it was real and be snapped out of their suspension of disbelief.
    Thanks for the video!
    Warm greetings from the Netherlands🇳🇱.

    • @Khaim.m
      @Khaim.m Год назад +4

      In a modern production, if the arrow is being shot then it's CGI. There's no real arrow. No one is going to shoot an actual arrow on set - way too much risk. The actor is drawing a blank string, or possibly just air.

  • @Phoniexwolf209
    @Phoniexwolf209 Год назад +41

    This man over here killing it while talking to the cam, mad respect bro. I see your quite comfortable with your craft, hitting the target every time

  • @Closer2Zero
    @Closer2Zero Год назад +56

    I never realize just how applicable stripper skills could be in a DnD setting. Makes me have ideas for my next character

    • @randomgeneration7781
      @randomgeneration7781 Год назад +15

      the party is joined by the local club's stripper who happens to be a crackshot with any bow? Heck yes I'd love to see that!

  • @konekoray9323
    @konekoray9323 7 месяцев назад

    Absolutely loving how practically every other shot in this video is done on either side of the bow, and it’s done so casually with zero attention drawn to it. I respect that a lot.

  • @mDelto
    @mDelto Год назад +1

    Thank you RUclips algorithms for blessing me with this wonderful tutorial that I may never use.

  • @HereticalKitsune
    @HereticalKitsune Год назад +64

    Jarmakee made me think of foot bows, you know, these high powered bows where you "held" them with your feet and pulled with both hands.

    • @frosthammer917
      @frosthammer917 Год назад +4

      I don't think those were really ever historically used. Or at least not on anything close to a large scale. That kind of technique was used to cock a crossbow but not with bows and also not as a way of shooting the crossbow.

    • @Demopans5990
      @Demopans5990 Год назад

      Anti tank bow

    • @useraccount333
      @useraccount333 Год назад

      ​@@frosthammer917I remember some people using them to hunt animals, since you can usually sneak up on them and take the time to line up a shot, but never in a fast-paced environment like warfare.

  • @strigoi_guhlqueen8355
    @strigoi_guhlqueen8355 Год назад +18

    Some very find archery.
    And you showing how the muscles work with the different techniques was very helpful for understanding what’s going on.
    Also, nice physique

  • @draxiss1577
    @draxiss1577 Год назад +17

    I remember noticing this about 20 years ago in Fellowship of the Ring when Lurtz (I believe was his name/the orc leader) is killing Boromir. I was confused by it when I first saw it because I'd just started learning archery, then never really thought much about it again.

  • @jiteshsingh7329
    @jiteshsingh7329 Год назад +1

    Thanks for answering my childhood question. Now i can rest in peace ✌️🕊️

  • @wanderingfawn604
    @wanderingfawn604 Год назад +11

    Loved the video!
    In the horse archery I've done (Kassai Hungarian style), I was taught to draw from the chest and use "feel" for practical reasons. The bow is also always at an angle to account for the horse, and usually smaller, I think.

  • @design8ed_nee-san977
    @design8ed_nee-san977 Год назад +6

    The lateral bow hold is actually how a former neighbor of mine was taught archery when he was a kid growing up in the Peruvian jungle. One of his daily chores was hunting a monkey for a meal, and that’s how he was taught to hold his bow. Even after decades of not using a bow, he was dead accurate compared to my father and I who had been shooting daily (vertically) for over a year. (Note: I loaned him my child-sized pulley bow, considering that’s the same size he had last used. And it’s not like we were going to start him on my father’s massive recurve.) Also, it was his first time using an arm and finger guard. He was unaware those pieces of equipment existed prior, and had been taught that if you get string smacked on release, you take it like a man and learn to not do it again. My neighbor definitely felt more comfortable shooting without either.

    • @sanitarycockroach9038
      @sanitarycockroach9038 Год назад

      I feel like that type of draw is far more suited to hunting, especially with poison, than it is against armed and armored human targets.

  • @voodoominerman
    @voodoominerman Год назад +11

    Archer here. Shooting on one knee is very, very occasionally useful in field shoots, so this can help if you can learn to aim it properly. I've tried it once, missed every shot.

  • @carlosforma5978
    @carlosforma5978 Год назад +28

    Have recently gotten the chance to practice archery with my own bow, and I've got to say: using the position of the arms in relation to each other and to the target (as in, focus on the 3 points in a more "panoramic" way) is much more effective than trying to use the arrow as an aiming aid by sight. It is, however, quite hard to get used to focusing these 3 correctly in order to get decent shots.
    I'm still at 5 meters distance, and of 3 times I practiced, with a few tens of shots per session, I only got that right 2 or 3 times, in sequence on one of the 6 arrow series, so it definitely takes getting used to.

  • @Magicdfox
    @Magicdfox Год назад +5

    great video, succinct explanation, entertaining analogies and comparison overall, and the fact you’re just taking shots the entire time while necessary for some parts was very satisfying. Love it!

  • @aaronoblad3231
    @aaronoblad3231 Год назад +5

    I literally never "like" a video. Today is the exception. Couldn't imagine a way to make this video better than it was already made. Well done!

  • @endymionisrafieldeios7362
    @endymionisrafieldeios7362 Год назад +8

    I did not know a lot of these things, but I'm glad I know them now. Thanks.

  • @quentc
    @quentc Год назад +6

    It's crazy how much depth you can portray (or fail to) with something like how the character holds and uses their weapon
    Glad to know while it isn't necessarily the most practical, the characters we see shooting in this way could realistically do so if they wanted to

  • @shannonpincombe8485
    @shannonpincombe8485 Год назад +9

    I'm sure you often find yourself firing from a tree hanging by one leg....in a battle. Loved it! Great vid, nice to your passion clearly evident.

  • @RoyConwell
    @RoyConwell Год назад +1

    This dude has the physique of someone that put all their points in dexterity.

  • @Vamilator7165
    @Vamilator7165 Год назад +4

    I like that. Interesting, skillful, and without mockery. A+ dude

  • @EeliusAstaroth
    @EeliusAstaroth Год назад +5

    Kinda hoping some entertainment creators take note so they can use that last shots in some cool scenes ❤️ it's always a + when they add in realistic aspects in wild epics like LotR and such

  • @cob4754
    @cob4754 Год назад +5

    What a great video - succint and good camera angles to explain everything. Love the shot at the end to show how far all the arrows went in too

  • @UnchainedEruption
    @UnchainedEruption 7 месяцев назад +1

    Incredible skill, but also such a good raconteur. Your voice is so pleasant to listen to.

  • @GT-tj1qg
    @GT-tj1qg Год назад +1

    I love how you explain both the pros and cons. RUclips has so much ragebait and this is much more enjoyable.

  • @nicobones9608
    @nicobones9608 Год назад +4

    "You have to rely on purely instinctive aiming," he says, as he hits the target every time. Lol. This guy is so cool!

  • @calebdoner
    @calebdoner Год назад +5

    This was actually incredibly informative and really well demonstrated.

  • @DUxMORTEM
    @DUxMORTEM Год назад +20

    Apache warriors were known for using sideways bow shots but they also used weighted arrows in more of a volley style to keep a low profile.

  • @pizzatothemax
    @pizzatothemax Год назад +1

    this just came across my youtube feed and I don't even watch archery videos... I learned something new today! this was fun and informative 🤩

  • @BrownEyedPrincess1
    @BrownEyedPrincess1 Год назад +1

    I have no idea why this was recommended to me. I’ve never searched this kind of content or watched a similar video. But I found it really impressive and concise!

  • @isaiahhellems7901
    @isaiahhellems7901 Год назад +6

    Legolas in lotr actually for the most part shoots arrows normally in the films. There are a couple of sideway shots but for the most part he stays true to how an archer would normally shoot.

  • @BranJohn98
    @BranJohn98 Год назад +30

    I noticed this when I was playing Skyrim
    If your character is standing, they hold the bow upright, but if they're crouching, (which makes your aim more steady and gives you stealth damage), they hold it sideways. It actually does make precise stealth shots way easier.

  • @FlamingLily
    @FlamingLily Год назад +24

    Sideways draw is great for VR archery because the controllers both stay within your eyesight at all times and don't go too close to the camera so you don't lose tracking

  • @edanirz
    @edanirz Год назад

    Bro, I really miss this type oy youtubing. Simple, straight to the point, clear, charismatic guys but not trying to be funny or clever all the time, no 2 minute intros. Great job.

  • @supremepatriarch9929
    @supremepatriarch9929 Год назад +1

    Dude casually shoots 27000 Arrows while explaining the benefits of holding your bow sideways. Well done.

  • @shmoshi8572
    @shmoshi8572 Год назад +7

    this was so great to learn about from you. love it!

  • @serainman
    @serainman Год назад +3

    good video, only two things i wanted to add: extremely low draw weights will tend to arc the arrows up and over your target (i assume cause gravity has more time to act on the aft of the arrow on release, causing it to tilt back and then friction shoots it up into the sky instead of forward) and you didnt mention it, but the draw stance at :07 is what speed archers use to fire faster, due to less mechanical actions/hand movements required to fire the arrows (you can shave off like 30% of time this way between shots, only thing is -- if you were speed arching, since you hold your bow with your right hand, you would want to be arrow resting on the left handle shelf of your bow instead, the purpose being, as the bow string "rolls" off your fingers during a shot, you want it to cause the arrow to "roll" into the bow stave, the way you're framed in this picture, the arrow will tend to jump off the rest as the string rolls off your fingers)

  • @CandySouvannarangsy3187
    @CandySouvannarangsy3187 Год назад +3

    I found this more interesting and useful than I should've 😮

  • @turbo8628
    @turbo8628 Год назад

    Peak content right here. No filler, provides the answer you want to know and then some.

  • @thepixelglitched
    @thepixelglitched Год назад +1

    Educational, entertaining, and _JFC_ you are a sweet archer. Your whole style was like butter. So I get a great breakdown of facts as well as a tutorial - all while you casually just nail shot after shot, many without looking.

  • @TheRentFan
    @TheRentFan Год назад +3

    Larp archer here, and this is one of the first archery commentaries that I like. I have very padded arrows that I'm aiming at people who know that I'm on the field. I frequently shoot with my bow turned either sideways or at a diagonal, anchor point at my chin. This is so much more appropriate than straight up and down because it's faster to load, draw, and shoot. I can also move around the field faster with an arrow nocked with the bow sideways, ready to shoot at a second's notice.

  • @Mufireael
    @Mufireael Год назад +5

    nice video man, love the archery skills 🔥

  • @MoonyMoonzzi
    @MoonyMoonzzi Год назад +8

    This reminds me of Elden Ring
    In that game, the character will mostly aim in the traditional vertical position, and in order to properly aim the arrow you gotta take your time and look where you’re shooting in that position. However, you can use an Ash of War to release a bunch of arrows consecutively really fast at an enemy…And THOSE will be sideways, since the goal isn’t to hit precisely in a spot but to just harass the enemy as fast as possible. Very interesting.

  • @jayuk83
    @jayuk83 Год назад

    This is the best video I’ve ever seen and I have zero interest in archery and don’t watch things to do with archery. Yet here I am, watching this video, and finding it interesting and fascinating. I think this guy wins RUclips.

  • @AlexKagarov
    @AlexKagarov Год назад

    Algorithm brought me here. Never been more entertained, never felt more educated afterwards. Thank you for this vid!

  • @viniciuspego94
    @viniciuspego94 Год назад +3

    Dude is a solid 7. Then he starts shooting and turns into at least a 9. What sorcery is this?

  • @DeadBoyHK1
    @DeadBoyHK1 Год назад +7

    You should look into Native American archery. You would be surprised to see that they drew their bows.

  • @EnderSpy007
    @EnderSpy007 Год назад +7

    Well done on the editing and shots (camera and bow). Really liked the sideways target view of Standard vs sideways vs jarmakee, great way to show the power of each. Would like to see a small window in the corner showing a more closeup of the target, particularly for shots where you are demonstrating accuracy when it isnt expected (like the sideways shot being assumed less accurate.)

  • @alexpins23
    @alexpins23 Год назад

    Just here to agree with a previous comment . This video is what youtube is all about. Personal, informative , detailed and all with a touch of personality. I appreciate it

  • @azikkii
    @azikkii Год назад

    I don’t even shoot bows or watch archery ever but for some reason I still watched this.

  • @emmledger
    @emmledger Год назад +8

    Great vid thanks! Are you lefty too?

  • @zibbitybibbitybop
    @zibbitybibbitybop Год назад +4

    The feared Comanche archers all shot with the bow held sideways, because it was what allowed them to hold multiple arrows against it at once and shoot them extremely rapid-fire. I think the guys who were arguably the best combat archers in human history have proven well enough that the technique works with enough practice. 😂

    • @jeffbenton6183
      @jeffbenton6183 Год назад +1

      They weren't using heavy longbows, and they weren't up against heavily armored opponents, though.

    • @hoangkienvu7572
      @hoangkienvu7572 Год назад

      Yeah it's kinda weird how a lot of archers seem to only use European archery as their reference, although archery was practiced in every corner of the world with different styles.

  • @H1bbe
    @H1bbe Год назад

    Might be the best video I've ever seen on youtube. And I've been on here since 2006. Thoroughly enjoyable, informative, and well crafted.

  • @hopestoryteller
    @hopestoryteller Год назад +2

    Delighted to discover you’re on RUclips too, sir, your videos are a delight and a valuable resource for writers like me. Thank you for sharing!

  • @marinaherrera7491
    @marinaherrera7491 Год назад +1

    This is easily the best video I’ve seen in a while. This dude is out here teaching me about archery, he’s in a super cool outfit, it’s super interesting to watch, he’s a frickin amazing shot and he takes his shirt off and I get to see his musclesss????? 10/10 I’m happy I found this vid. All jokes aside, really good vid. 🎉😂

  • @8Sigurd
    @8Sigurd Год назад

    Never seen your channel, nor do I plan to subscribe, but please accept my deep respect for constructive approach, clear practical demonstration and a high level of both knowledge as well as mastery of this rare skill.