"It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned" - Bernie Sanders, Nov 6th 2024
And this is why I don't like Sanders. Harris was not running in a vacuum. Why doesn't Sanders caucus with the republicans if they represent the working class better than the democrats?
@kwaii_gamer It's the message, not the delivery. If there is one thing I can affirm with certainty living in the US, it's that our elections have nothing to do with actual policy intended to be implemented.
I'm an American and to be fair it wasn't just Fox News, but CNN and MSNBC were also covering him as early as 2011 when he had a presidential press conference addressing Obama releasing his birth certificate. Go back to that 15+ minute speech from around April of that year and you will see the seeds planted of what would become and even Bill Burr commented about it then as his speech was noticably batshit crazy for 2011. Then in 2015 I remember CNN specifically covering all of his speeches before he even had the momentum, because filming his empty pedestal was better ratings than covering say a Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio.
I’ve never heard anyone say this, but that is 100% how I remember it. It was like a little foray into politics to see if it worked, a beta test, if you will. Meanwhile he was going on WWE a reasonable amount (check out some of those clips if you haven’t seen. The way the crowd responds to him is notable).
@@joshhoffman5233 Yep in 2009 he 'bought' the WWE from Vince with the gimmick that he was going to do Monday Night Raw commercial free to the dismay of Vince.
Joe Scarborough and Mika followed Trump around like puppy dogs during the run-up to his first term, fawning over his bravado and enjoying the sweet palm beach cocktail party life that they were accustomed. EVERYONE in media is responsible.
For anyone that wants to see Bill Burr react to Trump's press conference live on air in 2011 it's /watch?v=88ktfhKYr58 at the 2:50:35 mark. It's an interesting glimpse into what people though of Trump running for President in 2011.
@@jimwest7107 An excuse or a fact? We'll never know to what extent this fact (not opinion) played into the result of course. Just something which may prove interesting as the decades go on and more women attempt it. I'm not at all left wing and I don't need to make excuses for either candidate. They each had their pros and cons, as I saw it.
I somehow don't think gender was the issue at all, actually I'm pretty sure that if Marjorie Taylor Green ran for president she'd win. Think about it, most women leaders of Western countries are from the right.
Wrong question. The right one is Why Americans voted for Trump. No matter how the opposition did, and they did well, the real issue is why people voted for a person like Trump
Obviously Trump's policies versus Kamala's. The economy and inflation, immigration, schooling and the education system, the wars, the price of energy, amongst other things - all under this administration.
Indeed, the biggest swing Trump got was men aged 18-34. Maybe the DNC should have spent more time listening to and talking with young men. Maybe young men, regardless of whether it was right or wrong, saw more of themselves in Trump than they saw in Kamala.
@@Infidel.It's true he stepped down too late but harris would never have won. She has consistently been viewed as unpopular. There was no democratic process for her to be picked. She was a bad pick.
Her promise was that under her there wouldn’t be an overhaul of rights being taken from people, but the sound of promises about more money spoke louder as it so often does in America. Trickledown economics produces kick down politics, and so on they march to that tune.
We live in a world ruled by money so obviously people want cheap goods and services and Trump delivered that last time around. Nobody cares about DEI and such...
“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party that has abandoned the working class would find that the working class has abandoned them.” Senator Bernie Sanders
Yeah, great take, but... that doesn't explain why the people vote for a candidate, who wants to abolish healthcare, destroy every protective agency the people have and vote for somebody, who has no actual economic policy apart from "tariffs", which will increase the cost of living for everybody. FFS Kamela even had an economic revitalization-plan for the rural areas... but hey "DNC abandoned working class", which they have abandoned since the 80's and still doesn't explain why everybody voted for Trump and the GOP, who never were "working-class"
The poppy is a symbol of peace from the 1914-1918 war, James. It was adopted because of the red poppies which grew on the Western Front during the war. The poppies are said to have inspired John McCrae's famous poem 'Flanders Fields' written in 1915. The poppy has nothing to do with the growth of fascism in the 1930s.
The poppy may have Originally been adopted after ww1 because of the fields of flanders but has long since come to symbolise our determination to stand in the light and pay respect to all those who have died for this country fighting against all forms of tyranny, to claim it is only about 1914-1918 is nonsense!
Thank you. So many idiots get it totally wrong. The poppy grows in disturbed ground eg somewhere that has been bombed and shelled for 4 years. That is why it is associated with the end of ww1
The 34 charges will stand. His sentence is now in question because he is now President elect. If he is able to pardon himself, he has to admit to the crime.
There is no cost of living crisis, there is a crisis of corporate greed. All the big boys are posting record profits and we're paying more for goods and services than any time in my lifetime. Coincidence?
I agree with everything said here, and I"ve been flabbergasted that there has been virtually no discussion of health care in this campaign, BUT: one substantive issue that was central in her campaign--and was SO refreshing to hear it talked about as a national crisis--was gun violence in America. And that was the main reason I voted for her.
He did, but since his track record of actually being president was way better than Biden I guess people trusted him more than they did Harris. We don't need nice leaders, we need competent ones.
He wouldn't be on the radio if he didnt believe people wanted to hear what he had to say. Not everyone is in the business of trying to make themselves smaller and less noticeable.
He’s your typical napoleon complex working the success he had . Small man never made it on big radio or tv and isn’t heralded by his peers so he rants here like a second rate James whale
The richest telling the poorest how to vote is an ironic criticism when Trump is a billionaire, and he routinely brought the richest man in the world on stage to campaign for him (and Elon was giving away a million dollars a day for a propaganda raffle).
Brother... When Trump was president the first time goods a dservices were extremely cheap meaning the poorest anong us could thrive. That and security is all we want. So why do you hate Trump?
He as said he is going to cut the tax on workers tips and overtime worked snd cut to 10% from 20% the interest on credit cards and stop tax on old age pension . That is why working class voted for him.
He's doing his job. And you're increasing his clicks. Quoting Mitchell and Webb from the Apprentice sketch "And remind me, how do these ironic, non idiots, show up in the ratings?" "They show up the same my friend, they show up just the same."
James stop waffling in self pity and just advise your mate Lammy to get into line and apologise, he's meant to be there for the country , not to display his own personal prejudices.
Harris was expected to do this and that, have policies about everything, address every issue etc... While trump all he did was make stuff up on the spot, lie through his teeth and dance for an hour while listening to music instead of answering questions and apparently that was fine. The double standards on what was the expectation from each one is so ludicrous.
People voted for him because they remember how great he was the first time and how goods and services were cheap. When Biden got in he closed all American oil so everything became expensive and then inflation rose drastically.
@@goji059 how about you name 1 trump policy? who tf knows he never mentioned one... he has a ready made healthcare plan that he needs to just fine tune the details.. which he has been saying for nearly a decade. While in reality we all know he doesn't have anything but loves to lie about it. He keeps going on about tariffs again for a decade. And we recently found out he doesn't even know how tariffs work. A decade passed and never bothered to even ask someone what it actually is. He says he is the father of IVF. Later claims he doesn't know what IVF is. It's ok donald. We already suspected that.
Yes, the Democrats next time need to put on a bigoted, misogynistic rambling fool who promises to ignore the parts of the Constitution that constrain him, wants to shut down media outlets that are critical of him, and promises to bring in the US Military to deal with the political opposition. When will they ever learn?
It’s definitely part of the process that’s missing from the Democrats’ calculus. They see all the things that should disqualify him, but they completely dismiss the idea of (or are unable to recognize) what he represents. Whether that has substance or not is immaterial; it has *great* value to American voters nonetheless. I doubt there will be any meaningful reflection from the power brokers in the Democratic Party, because they just made an eerily similar mistake as they did in 2016 without learning any lessons.
In an ideal world, a candidate with no reason to vote for (not that I agree with that characterisation) should trump a candidate with reasons not to vote for. But then, that'll require a world without misogynoir.
There were reasons, unlike what people like Jonathan Pie claimed Kamala did provide policy positions, but Republicans claimed she didn't. Apparently people like Mr. Pie listen when they speak, and believe what they hear.
Badenoch and Jenrick both said bad things about each other a few weeks ago. They are part of the same team now. She's just stirring, she knows as well as anyone that you sometimes have to work with people that you don't always agree with.
One of the talking points that I've seen come up is the absence of a compelling arguement for young men to vote for Harris, the flat refusal for women's issues being able to share the limelight with men's issues, a point that had been made hundreds of times during the campign but was shouted down by people not willing to listen, chauvanism has played a part in losing the male vote but also losing the election for Harris, the US is just not ready for a woman to lead, this is the 2nd time Trump (of all people) has run against a woman and had a convincing win.. Also people abstaining from voting as a protest for the troubles in Gaza (apologies for understating this but I don't feel like wrestling with the algorithm today), a ridiculous argument because any US President is going to side with Isreal no matter what. A 50% turnout for one of the most important elections in recent history is mindblowing.
I agree. The misogyny runs deep here and young men would rather be toxic instead of realistic and reasonable. I know so many people who voted against their own interests and I don't think they realize it. I have very little hope with humanity in America and Canada is looking better than America is right now.
I’ve never seen an election campaign like this before. Nothing even close. Blatant Psychological warfare. The right used the culture war stuff to their full advantage and played into it, with the full support of the various right wing grifters like Jordan Peterson, Piers Morgan etc. etc. amplifying the messages. They made entirely self serving billionaires like Trump, Musk etc. seem like geniuses that were going to swoop in and save the day for the average middle class and working class American. They played into the fear that their religious beliefs were under threat, their freedom, and even worse, their wallets! These billionaires don’t have an empathetic or altruistic bone in their bodies. You just have to observe their actions to see that they don’t align with what they are saying. The general publics fear and confusion was exploited, and not even in a sophisticated way. The problem we face, collectively as a species is a lack of emotional awareness. Without emotional awareness, we are vulnerable to the dark side of empathy, where psychotic, sociopathic, narcissists will pray on and manipulate anyone that isn’t capable of emotional regulation, mindfulness, logic and reason. The current state of the world reflects very poorly on us as a species…
@@MyAnnusMirabilis Have you heard of Google? Trump said he wants to be a dictator. Do away with the board of education the list is so long. His policies killed the economy last time. We the US are a very ignorant nation! But, I have hope pain is a great motivator and there's allot coming home to roost in the US.
I think this is part of a bigger problem: It was impossible for Harris, with only 3 months to campaign, to speak to / align with the multitude of single-issue voters she needed to court. It's been this way for a while. The democrats are more fractured.
"The richest were telling the poorest how to vote." First off, they're allowed to do that in a free country. Secondly, both sides were doing this. George Clooney and Julia Roberts are not short of money. If you want to understand why people voted a certain way, then you should listen to them. But this is the one thing that you never do.
He won because voters don’t understand the difference between somebody running on outcomes vs somebody running on policies to achieve those outcomes. Trump ran on “fixing” the economy, making homes affordable, lowering inflation… but his policies are to raise tariffs across the board, cancel biden’s IRA funding for manufacturing, and mass deport the people that grow food and build housing.
The UK made the same mistake before the Brexit vote. There was too much talk about how leaving the EU would make our lives worse and not nearly enough talk about why staying in the EU would make our lives better.
TBH the brexit vote practically came out as 50/50 so the whole EU set up at the time was evidentially very divisive. Something that divisive is surely not something which takes us forward. When something is that divisive the set up needs to be re modelled until say around 60% of people can at least agree with a set up. The problem was the EU is a law unto themselves and they aren't prepared to change.
German government is collapsing and so to is the EURO. International Socialism didn't work out too well for Germany in the 1930s-40s and won't work now. So it's better to be happy that we left the EU.
You're working two minimum wage jobs, you're literally struggling to put food on your table and up comes a sanctimonious, upper-middle class Californian telling you that you're a bad person because reproductive and trans rights are not your top priority. What could possibly go wrong?
@@allenmontrasio8962 wait...what class is Trump from? As for the trans thing, I didn't see that anywhere in her platform...thats a bogeyman the right looooves to talk about and weaponize. As for abortion, yup, definitely there, but as it directly impacts the lives of every woman of reproductive age, it should have been. As an outsider, one thing is abundantly clear, and has been for some time: US elections are decided largely on the cult of personality. Trump has had a decade to build and refine that - Kamala had 3 months. It was never going to work.
@@craven5328 given that there is no aristocracy in America, Trump is upper class, trans rights may not have been on the platform, but they were a constant part of the debate and of course reproductive rights are important, but please understand that there are people for whom being able to put food on the table is a very real and much more pressing issue than accessing care which they will not be able to afford anyway.
She never said either - especially trans rights- should be voters top priority. (Apparently there are all of two trans people who received treatment in prison. The whole trans thing was a red herring ginned up by MAGA. The withdrawal of reproductive rights has already killed at least two otherwise healthy women.)
did she tho she spoke vaguely about like two policy positions one time. and tepid milquetoast ones at that. she could have won on rent control and prosecuting price gouging and feeding children. She lost on cringy SNL skits instead. Classic DNC
@@Eaode So, Democrats didn't vote for her because she spoke "vaguely" (according to you) about her policies but Republicans voted for Trump although he wasn't able to give ONE coherent answer about his... Got it ,the difference between the two electorates is abysmal
@@EaodeNo, she lost as part of a global wave against incumbents that presided over post-pandemic inflation (even if it wasn’t their fault). Nothing could have prevented it. Just look at what happened to the Tories.
The main reasons I've gathered from the last day are: - Running a campaign of "joy" when 60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck - Being too involved with mainstream media and not reaching out enough to alternative/internet media - Not promising anything too "big" or different. Trump will whisper sweet lies but that's the point. It gives people hope - Wheeling out celebrities that the ordinary person cannot relate to - Being too incument/not anti-establishment enough in a zeitgeist of populism where people do not appreciate the status quo/tinkering around the edges - Working with the Cheneys etc. and not being hard enough on Israel in a very anti-war climate
Most people here in America love what Trump stands for and against. If you don’t understand why then that is your ignorance and lack of curiosity and nothing else.
I know you probably sit iv-dripped on demagogues ranting about it, but do try to at least imagine that "woke" could just be a boogeyman term. It's a made-up catch-all accusation, meant to instill the idea in you, that the opposition is always _lying or delusional._ So that you won't listen to anything "they" say. It's just paranoia, on a societal scale.
Part of it, yeah. "And here's Beyonce!" is not a great move at all. People "struggling" to pay their rent and food etc don't care about some name behind a candidate, they care about what they're able to do in their life.
@Dynasty1818 😂 and when a solution was presented she was called a communist. Trump offered tarrifs that would increase prices. Her biggest problem is that people are dumb. Really dumb. Blaming price gouging on a politician is as dumb as blaming the UKs issues on the EU.
.... "White Nationalism" - with the biggest vote share of black men, Hispanics, Jews and the Muslim vote that Republicans have ever received? 🤷 Should people vote for a woman because she's a woman, or a black woman because she is black? Don't policies matter?
You know all that stuff they talked about and prioritized? Yeah all that. People don't care about identity politics of they've got no money and a declining standard of living, plus in America you can get poor and destitute to a level we can't comprehend in the UK.
We saw the height of competence during COVID with suggestions of ingesting disinfectant and shining light inside the body? It's easy enough to make a high level accusation of incompetence, but what specific examples are you pointing to? Inflation is a global issue. Unemployment is lower than it's ever been. They've done something on prescription drugs.
I suppose the biggest problem was that people didn't feel like they had more money in their pockets. That billionaires are constantly flouting their ever growing wealth only exacerbates the obvious disparity.
@@ibexdnb2879 That was the Obama economy that Trump was killing before covid. Try doing a little bit of research. the Economy runs 2-4 years after policy, it's like a large train it doesn't start or stop on a dime!
@@HarryNottings it’s bizarre, to be sure. Incredibly self-defeating. That being said, there is an overwhelming and blinding rage at the status quo in America that has brought ruin to the general public for the greater part of three decades, and voting for another status quo candidate is the last thing that most people are willing to do. It doesn’t make a lot of sense, but desperate and angry people are rarely what could be described as rational actors.
This take is not true. Harris had a relatively strong message for the working class. People just did not believe she could deliver, and that is down to the failings of many institutions over a period of years.
1) Kamala Harris was appointed and was not chosen by the Dems through primaries, 2) She disregarded working classes' concerns about unfettered immigration, the economy, trans ideology and schooling, Israel/Gaza conflict, amongst other things.
@@fabiennemitchell2371 She never mentioned anything g about trans rights in her platform. This is a boogeyman the right has leveraged - to great effect. I'll say it again, as it is so SO obvious: The US culture is a cult of celebrity / personality. Trumo has had 8+ years to secure his base - possibly more because he's been in the public eye for so long. Kamala had 3 months to somehow magically appeal to a much broader range of single-issue voters...it was never going to work. Never.
Yep. It never mattered. The fight wasn’t on policy or even vibes. It was a fight with misinformation, and it was lost. There’s no effective way to combat relentless lies by telling the truth.
@@PityOnlyFools Absolutely this. Misinformation has prevailed. I can't envision a future now where it doesn't dominate everything else, and it's truly scary
Putting up one incompetent candidate after another was a bad move James, that and failing on the economy and border security. If people felt better off under the democrats they'd have voted for them.
@@JohnSmith-it6hj Curious as to your opinion of the bipartisan border security bill that Biden attempted to pass (the most strict in decades) but that Trump successfully urged Republican legislators to scupple? On the feelings issue - I think you are right. It's ironic though...to think that the right wing has consistently used Shapiro's "facts don't care about your feelings" against the left.
Nott was a decent man and had the guts to stand up for what was right. The type of conservative unknown in Britain 2024. Unless and until we have those sorts of people within the Tory party it'll remain the noisy child shouting from the terraces....
This wasn't an error, it was a decision. Americans have shown you what their aspirations are, what they want their kids to grow up to be. I'm genuinely sorry that you're disappointed (for the record, I am too), but the people in the US have spoken, with tens of millions of voices, and told you who they are.
Kamala would not have been capable to deliver these things let's be honest. And anyway the game is always rigged. The people don't get to decide who gets in although the illusion is there.
DNC should have pressured Biden to not run and all and had a true primary. I understand why Kamala Harris got the nomination in reality but she was never a popular candidate.
She ran on identity politics and thus had no policies, plus she was the one in power for 4 years and people obviously didn't see much improvement. Stop whining.
The grievances that Americans who voted for Trump have in their lives are global issues so voting for Trump is not going to make the price of oil go down or inflation stop rising if only they payed more attention to global issues instead of just insulating themselves in their small communities.
Lots of third parties in the battleground states. And sexism, racism, messaging. trumpf did not win many new voters but his voters voted for him. Biden/Harris voters did not all show up for Harris.
I did a cursory check of the figures and I don't think the third parties made any difference. They didn't actually get much of a vote and she lost pretty convincingly in the swing states.
They tried to make this election almost entirely about abortion. For most people, the spiralling cost of living and the looming threat of a global war are slightly more important than whether or not abortion is legal.
A failure to offer a compelling reason to vote for them, besides how bad Trump is. Very similar to the Brexit referendum and the 2016 election which is something I've only realised with the benefit of hindsight. One side offering a delusional, but positive message, whereas the other was seen as advocating the status quo during a time when ordinary voters feel both disenfranchised and feeling a squeeze on real wages and the cost of living. I'm not sure how the Democrats could have overcome those broader economic conditions (particularly when they had combatted inflation so much better than other developed nations), but their campaign was negative and their candidate only had a small window of time to state their case and acquaint themselves with the electorate. Both of those are major issues which the Dems could control and they're both issues which they can learn a lot from.
All true but not acknowledging that the republican campaign was dark while blaming the democrats for running a negative campaign. As far as learning its too late for such things...
@kwaii_gamer I'm not sure in what sense you're meaning dark? I mean, I think the implications of the things Trump was advocating for are destructive, I think there's a lot of xenophobia tied in, so those things are certainly dark; however, the overall message was 'give me all the power and join my gang, then your life will be improved'. While that's an exclusive message because an in group definitionally requires an out group, it's a positive one if you're part of the in group, and there isn't a barrier for entry to that group because you only need pledge your support and then you're in. That's the difference, Trump says he'll make everything better, whereas the Dems focused too heavily on why Trump wouldn't achieve that which meant most of their messaging was Trump-centric, rather than Harris-centric. A campaign highlighting the positives of a Harris presidency would have been more competitive because it would have provided two contrasting visions of the future, instead they built their campaign around opposing Trump, which just served to reinforce his anti-establishment rhetoric and the wider anti-establishment sentiment which is rife in global politics right now, as well as fighting the election on whichever issues he cared to raise - essentially fighting on turf of his choosing. The implication of such a strategy comes across as justifying the status quo and attacking the guy who claims he wants to improve it, so voters view an attack on that candidate as an attack on their desire for an improvement in their material conditions because that desire is what Trump claims to represent. Offering a positive case for how Harris would have improved things and focusing on that message in ways which beneficially contrast with Trump's approach would have been a far better strategy than what they ended up with. I think the root problem is that the electorate reflexively distrusts politicians, so when those politicians attack someone who claims to be different to other politicians and offers a bold positive message (even if it's delusional), then people reflexively support the outsider because they already know they distrust the 'regular' politicians and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. If someone is entertaining to you and claims to want to help you, then hearing someone you already distrust constantly talking smack about them will only push you closer to the person they're criticising - this is true of both personal relationships and how people engage with politics. Criticism only works if the audience you're appealing to already trusts you, otherwise it becomes an endorsement of who it's targeted at 🤷
Yesterday, I made a comment about democracy .This morning, James opened on the secret papers halfway to proving my point. When we vote it is to choose who will be doing the best for us. Not who will do the best for their friends and financiers. I remember the winter of discontent. Which brought Margaret Thatcher into power in 1979.
I don't see any party leader in this country struggling to pay bills, by food and clothing for their families. LBC is turning into the view on abc just with middle aged men, who earn a lot more than the working class.
@@ibexdnb2879 Oh, this is "destruction of western society (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)" or "I think we all know what we are talking about" as the Key & Peele country songs sketch put it. Of course.
As an American who voted party-line Democrat for 17 years and just switched to vote for Trump: This man got **Literally. Everything. Wrong.** EDIT: Except the one line where he said richest people telling the poorest people how to vote. Everything around that one line was wrong.
@@ImloyaltoScotlandonly Okay, and presumably Murdoch's papers are now supporting Starmer in a way that suggests that he promised something? No? Nothing to see here then.
“But don’t forget that most men without property would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich, than deal with the reality of being poor. That is why they will side with us.”-attributed to the sensibilities of Founding Father John Dickinson
@@pkia898All you have to do is go to her website... - Cut taxes for 100 million working and middle-class Americans - Build more affordable rental homes and give $25,000 to first time home buyers to help with down payments Serious question, and it's not a gotcha: Did you bother to go to her website at all over these months? Or, did you mainly listen to what Trump and other Republicans said about her?
@@HuplesCat Did you not watch Harris' mild interviews and rallies. She referred to abortion rights (mis-stating much), she referred to Trump in every answer and would not do anything different to Biden, when asked.
"It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned" - Bernie Sanders, Nov 6th 2024
Bernie 🙄
Ah well, if Bernie gets to feel smug about it then everything's great. :S
And this is why I don't like Sanders. Harris was not running in a vacuum. Why doesn't Sanders caucus with the republicans if they represent the working class better than the democrats?
@@kwaii_gamer What he said is correct though...
@kwaii_gamer It's the message, not the delivery.
If there is one thing I can affirm with certainty living in the US, it's that our elections have nothing to do with actual policy intended to be implemented.
??? If a man lies constantly it doesn't matter what he promises
I'm an American and to be fair it wasn't just Fox News, but CNN and MSNBC were also covering him as early as 2011 when he had a presidential press conference addressing Obama releasing his birth certificate. Go back to that 15+ minute speech from around April of that year and you will see the seeds planted of what would become and even Bill Burr commented about it then as his speech was noticably batshit crazy for 2011. Then in 2015 I remember CNN specifically covering all of his speeches before he even had the momentum, because filming his empty pedestal was better ratings than covering say a Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio.
I’ve never heard anyone say this, but that is 100% how I remember it. It was like a little foray into politics to see if it worked, a beta test, if you will. Meanwhile he was going on WWE a reasonable amount (check out some of those clips if you haven’t seen. The way the crowd responds to him is notable).
@@joshhoffman5233 Yep in 2009 he 'bought' the WWE from Vince with the gimmick that he was going to do Monday Night Raw commercial free to the dismay of Vince.
Joe Scarborough and Mika followed Trump around like puppy dogs during the run-up to his first term, fawning over his bravado and enjoying the sweet palm beach cocktail party life that they were accustomed. EVERYONE in media is responsible.
For anyone that wants to see Bill Burr react to Trump's press conference live on air in 2011 it's /watch?v=88ktfhKYr58 at the 2:50:35 mark. It's an interesting glimpse into what people though of Trump running for President in 2011.
"Bad for the country, but great for share prices!" as one CBS exec was rumoured to say to the stock holders in a quarterly phone conference.
One observation is that Trump defeated two women for the presidency and lost against a man.
Another observation is Trump beat the same man so badly in debate he was forced to quit before facing Trump in November.
That's a lazy left-wing excuse
@@nicholasgodleman7520 Nothing to do with Biden not being fit for purpose?
@@jimwest7107 An excuse or a fact? We'll never know to what extent this fact (not opinion) played into the result of course. Just something which may prove interesting as the decades go on and more women attempt it. I'm not at all left wing and I don't need to make excuses for either candidate. They each had their pros and cons, as I saw it.
I somehow don't think gender was the issue at all, actually I'm pretty sure that if Marjorie Taylor Green ran for president she'd win.
Think about it, most women leaders of Western countries are from the right.
Wrong question. The right one is Why Americans voted for Trump. No matter how the opposition did, and they did well, the real issue is why people voted for a person like Trump
Obviously Trump's policies versus Kamala's. The economy and inflation, immigration, schooling and the education system, the wars, the price of energy, amongst other things - all under this administration.
Indeed, the biggest swing Trump got was men aged 18-34. Maybe the DNC should have spent more time listening to and talking with young men. Maybe young men, regardless of whether it was right or wrong, saw more of themselves in Trump than they saw in Kamala.
As a nation we have no morals and a short memory or willful ignorance.
Because the alternative was even worse
Hanging onto Biden for so long. Biden needed to stand down sooner.
Exactly. Biden needed to step down early this year or last year. That would give Kamala more time to sell herself and connect with people.
That is the correct answer. Biden should have stepped down and given Kamala or anyone else at least a year to prepare.
Absolutely. They should've gone in south a plan that he would not run for a 2nd term. And Kamala needed to do more to differentiate herself from him.
@@Infidel.It's true he stepped down too late but harris would never have won. She has consistently been viewed as unpopular. There was no democratic process for her to be picked. She was a bad pick.
would not change a dam thing people just believed in trump lies
Her promise was that under her there wouldn’t be an overhaul of rights being taken from people, but the sound of promises about more money spoke louder as it so often does in America. Trickledown economics produces kick down politics, and so on they march to that tune.
We live in a world ruled by money so obviously people want cheap goods and services and Trump delivered that last time around. Nobody cares about DEI and such...
“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party that has abandoned the working class would find that the working class has abandoned them.”
Senator Bernie Sanders
Yeah, great take, but... that doesn't explain why the people vote for a candidate, who wants to abolish healthcare, destroy every protective agency the people have and vote for somebody, who has no actual economic policy apart from "tariffs", which will increase the cost of living for everybody. FFS Kamela even had an economic revitalization-plan for the rural areas... but hey "DNC abandoned working class", which they have abandoned since the 80's and still doesn't explain why everybody voted for Trump and the GOP, who never were "working-class"
And how did they abandon the working class?
The poppy is a symbol of peace from the 1914-1918 war, James. It was adopted because of the red poppies which grew on the Western Front during the war. The poppies are said to have inspired John McCrae's famous poem 'Flanders Fields' written in 1915. The poppy has nothing to do with the growth of fascism in the 1930s.
Thank you. Well said.
A Canadian, the poppy is a big deal in Canada as well
James is going bonkers.
The poppy may have Originally been adopted after ww1 because of the fields of flanders but has long since come to symbolise our determination to stand in the light and pay respect to all those who have died for this country fighting against all forms of tyranny, to claim it is only about 1914-1918 is nonsense!
Thank you. So many idiots get it totally wrong.
The poppy grows in disturbed ground eg somewhere that has been bombed and shelled for 4 years. That is why it is associated with the end of ww1
What MLK said about liberals. Liberals continue to refuse to hear it.
Well read individual
Thank you
And Malcolm X wasn't too keen either
@DanRyan-v5y indeed.
I googled it. Haven’t found it. Would you mind to clarify what you are referring to?
Odd thing for him to say since he was part & parcel, and mouth piece for the Communist of America.
Brexit was the dumbest thing I have seen a country do to its self, then the USA said hold my beer
That’s why you will always lose . Because you are so out of touch its amazing.
I’d argue brexit was far more harmful than trumps first term, we’ll see about his second
@@Cornwall1888 wrong again, keep failing
@@dufud Or because even 8 years later, far too many people refuse to look at what has happened and admit that it was a bad idea. We all lose.
@Cornwall1888 Trumps first termwas a huge success.
Why does the UK media keep pretending to be so confused about this when it is so obvious ?
Because they are paid to.
@@pengbeatz what do you think is obvious?
We're not Americans and we don't necessarily understand everything that happens in the US.
@Cornwall1888 its so obvious he doesnt feel he has to say it. Some people just act as if everybody can just read their minds.
@@Cornwall1888that trump would win
James will be furious when Trump's 34 charges are expunged
Oh yes. We live in a dictatorship now.
They already have been
The 34 charges will stand.
His sentence is now in question because he is now President elect.
If he is able to pardon himself, he has to admit to the crime.
He can't pardon himself. It's a state crime.
I haven't stopped smiling since yesterday, I think it will get better.
It's beautiful to watch James have a meltdown.
Agreed
There is no cost of living crisis, there is a crisis of corporate greed. All the big boys are posting record profits and we're paying more for goods and services than any time in my lifetime. Coincidence?
I agree with everything said here, and I"ve been flabbergasted that there has been virtually no discussion of health care in this campaign, BUT: one substantive issue that was central in her campaign--and was SO refreshing to hear it talked about as a national crisis--was gun violence in America. And that was the main reason I voted for her.
TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP GET OVER IT THE PEOPLE VOTED AND WANTED HIM END OF IT GET OVER IT WE ARE SICK OF WOLE
No, they just buy into the idea that by making himself rich, Trump will make other Americans rich.
Sure, you can "get over it" if there are no consequences, but of course there are consequences.
What is WOLE? Anything to do with the woleratie?
I don’t know. Joe Rogan and Elon Musk are pretty rich
right! I didnt get his point with this one
Outrageous that we would cast a slur on poppy wearing people who disagree with his overtly left wing views.
Donald Trump didn't promise anything either...
Oh yeah he did. He promised to be cruel to a bunch of people that Trump voters and swing voters don't care about.
Trump promised no taxes on tips and overtime.
Harris promised more bombs for Netanyahu.
Assuming that this is sarcasm?
He promised the world, and his fans won’t care when he fails to deliver.
He did, but since his track record of actually being president was way better than Biden I guess people trusted him more than they did Harris. We don't need nice leaders, we need competent ones.
My word James O’Brien has a high opinion of himself.
All narcissistic personality's do
He wouldn't be on the radio if he didnt believe people wanted to hear what he had to say. Not everyone is in the business of trying to make themselves smaller and less noticeable.
He’s your typical napoleon complex working the success he had . Small man never made it on big radio or tv and isn’t heralded by his peers so he rants here like a second rate James whale
Don’t worry James, you embarrass yourself every day when you air your condescending and smug arrogance.
He can afford luxury beliefs.
O'brien gets obsessed, this will be brexit mark 2.....
They don't talk to standard US folks and thus have no idea what they want. And it isn't what they offered.
They stopped being democratic for starters
The richest telling the poorest how to vote is an ironic criticism when Trump is a billionaire, and he routinely brought the richest man in the world on stage to campaign for him (and Elon was giving away a million dollars a day for a propaganda raffle).
But they don’t look down on the working class like the left does.
Elon Musk is a free thinker and before you say that he is not then try thinking critically rather than emotionally. ❤
@@gabet1075 yeah but they don’t look down on the working class .
Brother... When Trump was president the first time goods a dservices were extremely cheap meaning the poorest anong us could thrive. That and security is all we want. So why do you hate Trump?
He as said he is going to cut the tax on workers tips and overtime worked snd cut to 10% from 20% the interest on credit cards and stop tax on old age pension . That is why working class voted for him.
Here for *Day 2* apoplectic screeching against reality. 😂
We shouldn't make fun of those more challenged than us.
He's doing his job. And you're increasing his clicks. Quoting Mitchell and Webb from the Apprentice sketch "And remind me, how do these ironic, non idiots, show up in the ratings?" "They show up the same my friend, they show up just the same."
@@weswheel4834 Quoting two further leftie luvvies then.
Correct - The only reason I have tuned into this channel is to watch O'Brien make an a--se of himself -
President Trump living rent free at LBC 😂😂😂
A channel that covers politics is still covering politics straight after an election!?!
Insert laughing emoji at my own comment.
James stop waffling in self pity and just advise your mate Lammy to get into line and apologise, he's meant to be there for the country , not to display his own personal prejudices.
Did you know that David Lammy is a black man?
@@ibexdnb2879 yes he keeps telling us. Some people are worse than vegans for keep telling you
@@ibexdnb2879 did you know Rayner was from a council estate and a proud Mancurian ?
Liberalism is dying everywhere, it’s about to die here in Canada too
@@greenwood130 Jesus was liberal.
Harris was expected to do this and that, have policies about everything, address every issue etc... While trump all he did was make stuff up on the spot, lie through his teeth and dance for an hour while listening to music instead of answering questions and apparently that was fine. The double standards on what was the expectation from each one is so ludicrous.
1 policy....
Name 1 kackala policy
Just 1.....😮
People voted for him because they remember how great he was the first time and how goods and services were cheap. When Biden got in he closed all American oil so everything became expensive and then inflation rose drastically.
@@goji059the child tax credit.
@@JellothePallascat Actually, Trump also wanted that to continue.
@@goji059 how about you name 1 trump policy? who tf knows he never mentioned one... he has a ready made healthcare plan that he needs to just fine tune the details.. which he has been saying for nearly a decade. While in reality we all know he doesn't have anything but loves to lie about it. He keeps going on about tariffs again for a decade. And we recently found out he doesn't even know how tariffs work. A decade passed and never bothered to even ask someone what it actually is. He says he is the father of IVF. Later claims he doesn't know what IVF is. It's ok donald. We already suspected that.
13:23 they messed it up when they didn’t let Joe Biden run in 2016
Maybe the democrats should ask “What did Trump get so right”?
Asked that yesterday pretty much... Elections tend to be "lost" and not "won" though.
Racism. It’s a dumb country.
Bernie summed up exactly what I’ve been feeling for the last decade about the democrats.
Yes, the Democrats next time need to put on a bigoted, misogynistic rambling fool who promises to ignore the parts of the Constitution that constrain him, wants to shut down media outlets that are critical of him, and promises to bring in the US Military to deal with the political opposition. When will they ever learn?
It’s definitely part of the process that’s missing from the Democrats’ calculus.
They see all the things that should disqualify him, but they completely dismiss the idea of (or are unable to recognize) what he represents. Whether that has substance or not is immaterial; it has *great* value to American voters nonetheless.
I doubt there will be any meaningful reflection from the power brokers in the Democratic Party, because they just made an eerily similar mistake as they did in 2016 without learning any lessons.
James is like reeeeee reeeeee. Hw will never get it, even if explain it in laymans terms
You expect her to be without flaws . Get over yourselves. You do not even put those standards to your own families.
This is true! Even tho i have my differences with her
Quoting Van Jones “ he can be lawless, she has to be flawless “ couldn’t have been more correct
Families? We're not talking about who to choose to organise a road trip or sunday bbq!
@@lewy1name 1 policy
Just 1
Lol, should be easy, right😮😮
@@lewy1that crybaby 😂😂
'They had all the reasons not to vote for one candidate but no reasons to vote for the other' - Jonathan Pie
Pies video was a perfect summation on why they lost
Then people resorted to common sense and voted Trump in a landslide.
In an ideal world, a candidate with no reason to vote for (not that I agree with that characterisation) should trump a candidate with reasons not to vote for. But then, that'll require a world without misogynoir.
There were reasons, unlike what people like Jonathan Pie claimed Kamala did provide policy positions, but Republicans claimed she didn't. Apparently people like Mr. Pie listen when they speak, and believe what they hear.
@@mikedennis5702 Omg that's really not common sense... that's insanity.
Lammy to kiss bottom.
He won't! Many congress and senators in American really do not care about Britain. You will find out!
i expect he will be reshuffled into a home official role.
@@roathripperyeah, how incompetent of him assuming trump wouldn’t get re-elected.
Badenoch and Jenrick both said bad things about each other a few weeks ago. They are part of the same team now. She's just stirring, she knows as well as anyone that you sometimes have to work with people that you don't always agree with.
One of the talking points that I've seen come up is the absence of a compelling arguement for young men to vote for Harris, the flat refusal for women's issues being able to share the limelight with men's issues, a point that had been made hundreds of times during the campign but was shouted down by people not willing to listen, chauvanism has played a part in losing the male vote but also losing the election for Harris, the US is just not ready for a woman to lead, this is the 2nd time Trump (of all people) has run against a woman and had a convincing win.. Also people abstaining from voting as a protest for the troubles in Gaza (apologies for understating this but I don't feel like wrestling with the algorithm today), a ridiculous argument because any US President is going to side with Isreal no matter what. A 50% turnout for one of the most important elections in recent history is mindblowing.
I agree. The misogyny runs deep here and young men would rather be toxic instead of realistic and reasonable. I know so many people who voted against their own interests and I don't think they realize it. I have very little hope with humanity in America and Canada is looking better than America is right now.
@@brogren802how has any young man voted against their own interests?
I’ve never seen an election campaign like this before. Nothing even close. Blatant Psychological warfare.
The right used the culture war stuff to their full advantage and played into it, with the full support of the various right wing grifters like Jordan Peterson, Piers Morgan etc. etc. amplifying the messages.
They made entirely self serving billionaires like Trump, Musk etc. seem like geniuses that were going to swoop in and save the day for the average middle class and working class American.
They played into the fear that their religious beliefs were under threat, their freedom, and even worse, their wallets! These billionaires don’t have an empathetic or altruistic bone in their bodies. You just have to observe their actions to see that they don’t align with what they are saying.
The general publics fear and confusion was exploited, and not even in a sophisticated way.
The problem we face, collectively as a species is a lack of emotional awareness. Without emotional awareness, we are vulnerable to the dark side of empathy, where psychotic, sociopathic, narcissists will pray on and manipulate anyone that isn’t capable of emotional regulation, mindfulness, logic and reason.
The current state of the world reflects very poorly on us as a species…
@@MyAnnusMirabilis Have you heard of Google? Trump said he wants to be a dictator. Do away with the board of education the list is so long. His policies killed the economy last time. We the US are a very ignorant nation! But, I have hope pain is a great motivator and there's allot coming home to roost in the US.
I think this is part of a bigger problem:
It was impossible for Harris, with only 3 months to campaign, to speak to / align with the multitude of single-issue voters she needed to court.
It's been this way for a while. The democrats are more fractured.
"The richest were telling the poorest how to vote."
First off, they're allowed to do that in a free country.
Secondly, both sides were doing this. George Clooney and Julia Roberts are not short of money.
If you want to understand why people voted a certain way, then you should listen to them.
But this is the one thing that you never do.
James is not interested in the poor. He only cares about being right.
Ok, so why did they vote like this?
He won because voters don’t understand the difference between somebody running on outcomes vs somebody running on policies to achieve those outcomes. Trump ran on “fixing” the economy, making homes affordable, lowering inflation… but his policies are to raise tariffs across the board, cancel biden’s IRA funding for manufacturing, and mass deport the people that grow food and build housing.
@LaurenceBoyce Neither of the people you mentioned are billionaires and have zero influence in comparison with the amount of power billionaires have
@@billybeads3328 Bill Gates supported Harris. We could add up the money on either side, but it would be missing the point.
Their unelected weak candidate who speaks with word salad.
Thats all that Trump ever does - word salad. Sharks, batteries, Hannibal Lecter, pet eating .... you have 4 more years of such nonsense to come
The UK made the same mistake before the Brexit vote. There was too much talk about how leaving the EU would make our lives worse and not nearly enough talk about why staying in the EU would make our lives better.
TBH the brexit vote practically came out as 50/50 so the whole EU set up at the time was evidentially very divisive. Something that divisive is surely not something which takes us forward. When something is that divisive the set up needs to be re modelled until say around 60% of people can at least agree with a set up. The problem was the EU is a law unto themselves and they aren't prepared to change.
There wasn't anything, so no real argument from remainerd
German government is collapsing and so to is the EURO. International Socialism didn't work out too well for Germany in the 1930s-40s and won't work now. So it's better to be happy that we left the EU.
Scotland and NI voted NOT to leave the EU
that is exactly what happened in 2016 in England (not uk)
Wales 🏴 voted for Brexit as well don’t forget
You're working two minimum wage jobs, you're literally struggling to put food on your table and up comes a sanctimonious, upper-middle class Californian telling you that you're a bad person because reproductive and trans rights are not your top priority. What could possibly go wrong?
Well-said.
@@allenmontrasio8962 wait...what class is Trump from? As for the trans thing, I didn't see that anywhere in her platform...thats a bogeyman the right looooves to talk about and weaponize. As for abortion, yup, definitely there, but as it directly impacts the lives of every woman of reproductive age, it should have been.
As an outsider, one thing is abundantly clear, and has been for some time:
US elections are decided largely on the cult of personality. Trump has had a decade to build and refine that - Kamala had 3 months. It was never going to work.
@@craven5328 given that there is no aristocracy in America, Trump is upper class, trans rights may not have been on the platform, but they were a constant part of the debate and of course reproductive rights are important, but please understand that there are people for whom being able to put food on the table is a very real and much more pressing issue than accessing care which they will not be able to afford anyway.
@@bluestar6879 If only it was that simple. Do you think Trump cares about inequality?
She never said either - especially trans rights- should be voters top priority. (Apparently there are all of two trans people who received treatment in prison. The whole trans thing was a red herring ginned up by MAGA. The withdrawal of reproductive rights has already killed at least two otherwise healthy women.)
America isn’t ready to vote for a black woman
The Democrats weren't either! How democratic of them...
Race baiting again ? The ethnics voted for him more than ever before.
What does her race or gender have to do with it? She was useless regardless.
Indian Irish, not black at all😮😮😮😮
@@goji059not black at all?
Her Dad is from Jamaica?
James, Kamala promised a lot for the middle class you can´t deny that...
@@zlinos139 it's wild...I keep adding portions from her platform that addressed the middle class and working class...and they get deleted.
did she tho
she spoke vaguely about like two policy positions one time.
and tepid milquetoast ones at that.
she could have won on rent control and prosecuting price gouging and feeding children.
She lost on cringy SNL skits instead. Classic DNC
You may be unaware of this, but the working class is a larger demographic than the middle class. Add to that the upper class and you get the point.
@@Eaode So, Democrats didn't vote for her because she spoke "vaguely" (according to you) about her policies but Republicans voted for Trump although he wasn't able to give ONE coherent answer about his... Got it ,the difference between the two electorates is abysmal
@@EaodeNo, she lost as part of a global wave against incumbents that presided over post-pandemic inflation (even if it wasn’t their fault). Nothing could have prevented it. Just look at what happened to the Tories.
It seems humble pie is quite popular in the lbc canteen at the moment.......
The main reasons I've gathered from the last day are:
- Running a campaign of "joy" when 60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck
- Being too involved with mainstream media and not reaching out enough to alternative/internet media
- Not promising anything too "big" or different. Trump will whisper sweet lies but that's the point. It gives people hope
- Wheeling out celebrities that the ordinary person cannot relate to
- Being too incument/not anti-establishment enough in a zeitgeist of populism where people do not appreciate the status quo/tinkering around the edges
- Working with the Cheneys etc. and not being hard enough on Israel in a very anti-war climate
Pancake
"Not promising anything too "big" or different."
If a Democrat did promise something "big" or "different," they'd be accused of being a socialist.
Lol that's how they used to? behave .media has alot to answer for and it's still happening but u don't want to say that for some reason get fair
O’Brien is having trump deranged syndrome
Every time someone says a legitimate negative fact about Trump the only response his cult has is Trump derangement syndrome.
Most people here in America love what Trump stands for and against. If you don’t understand why then that is your ignorance and lack of curiosity and nothing else.
...because people like James refuse to honestly define what 'woke' is and it's impact on people/society
I know you probably sit iv-dripped on demagogues ranting about it, but do try to at least imagine that "woke" could just be a boogeyman term.
It's a made-up catch-all accusation, meant to instill the idea in you, that the opposition is always _lying or delusional._ So that you won't listen to anything "they" say.
It's just paranoia, on a societal scale.
The interesting thing is that this analysis could have been done a long time ago by anyone. No new information is used in the analysis.
Campaigning on one issue and relying on the magic of Oprah Winfrey will get you nowhere.
And trying to lean right with Cheney
Part of it, yeah. "And here's Beyonce!" is not a great move at all. People "struggling" to pay their rent and food etc don't care about some name behind a candidate, they care about what they're able to do in their life.
@@Dynasty1818 So why did Don bother having Hulk Hogan ripping his shirt off?
Wrong, it's the right wing propaganda that's everywhere is the problem.
@Dynasty1818 😂 and when a solution was presented she was called a communist. Trump offered tarrifs that would increase prices. Her biggest problem is that people are dumb. Really dumb. Blaming price gouging on a politician is as dumb as blaming the UKs issues on the EU.
This was a vote for wyt nationalism. No need twist yourself into a pretzel to create a scapegoat
.... "White Nationalism" - with the biggest vote share of black men, Hispanics, Jews and the Muslim vote that Republicans have ever received? 🤷
Should people vote for a woman because she's a woman, or a black woman because she is black? Don't policies matter?
The poppy is about remberance and loss not a party political broadcast for you
You know all that stuff they talked about and prioritized? Yeah all that. People don't care about identity politics of they've got no money and a declining standard of living, plus in America you can get poor and destitute to a level we can't comprehend in the UK.
Does it not occur to you that Americans just got sick of the incompetent baskets destroying their country?
Yet they put one in charge...again.
How did Biden/Harris "destroy the country" - any details?
"We're tired of it being wrecked by neglect, so we've voted for someone who will deliberately torch it for fun"
Like last time?
You do know that the ecomony was the strongest it has ever been.
Fool.
We saw the height of competence during COVID with suggestions of ingesting disinfectant and shining light inside the body?
It's easy enough to make a high level accusation of incompetence, but what specific examples are you pointing to? Inflation is a global issue. Unemployment is lower than it's ever been. They've done something on prescription drugs.
I suppose the biggest problem was that people didn't feel like they had more money in their pockets.
That billionaires are constantly flouting their ever growing wealth only exacerbates the obvious disparity.
Now we get to teach those billionaires a lesson by giving them tax breaks and letting them abuse their workers more, yeah!
When Trump was last in office the working class thrived due to cheap goods and services. I am not surprised he got voted in again.
Yes they could find 100 million dollars in an instant for the Harris campaign, but can't find anything for Joe public
@@ibexdnb2879 That was the Obama economy that Trump was killing before covid. Try doing a little bit of research. the Economy runs 2-4 years after policy, it's like a large train it doesn't start or stop on a dime!
@@HarryNottings it’s bizarre, to be sure. Incredibly self-defeating.
That being said, there is an overwhelming and blinding rage at the status quo in America that has brought ruin to the general public for the greater part of three decades, and voting for another status quo candidate is the last thing that most people are willing to do.
It doesn’t make a lot of sense, but desperate and angry people are rarely what could be described as rational actors.
This take is not true. Harris had a relatively strong message for the working class. People just did not believe she could deliver, and that is down to the failings of many institutions over a period of years.
Or not delivering anything in the past 4 years 😮
1) Kamala Harris was appointed and was not chosen by the Dems through primaries, 2) She disregarded working classes' concerns about unfettered immigration, the economy, trans ideology and schooling, Israel/Gaza conflict, amongst other things.
@@fabiennemitchell2371 She never mentioned anything g about trans rights in her platform. This is a boogeyman the right has leveraged - to great effect.
I'll say it again, as it is so SO obvious:
The US culture is a cult of celebrity / personality. Trumo has had 8+ years to secure his base - possibly more because he's been in the public eye for so long. Kamala had 3 months to somehow magically appeal to a much broader range of single-issue voters...it was never going to work. Never.
She promised to raise the minimum wage for one. Child tax credit for two.
Yep. It never mattered. The fight wasn’t on policy or even vibes. It was a fight with misinformation, and it was lost.
There’s no effective way to combat relentless lies by telling the truth.
@@PityOnlyFoolsstop lying.
She didn't oppose the lies from Trump campaign. Such as abortions on final day etc
@@PityOnlyFools Absolutely this. Misinformation has prevailed. I can't envision a future now where it doesn't dominate everything else, and it's truly scary
raising minimum wage just puts the cost of everything up though.
Jimmy Saville and Donald Trump both promised to Fix It…..
Starmer fixed it for Jimmy
@ ?
Trump will have to quit his job serving at McDonald's.
Apparently he kept pulling the fries from the fryer with his hands, he didn't know you aren't supposed to do that
@@jasonmcclatchie6877 He heard they were "hand cooked".
@@weswheel4834😂
Trump wouldnt be a thing had the Democrats listened to the people and have Bernie Sanders run for President instead of Hillary.
When i listen to James O'Brien talk i want to vote for whoever he hates
then, why do you listen to him?
@@pedroamieva8812 why did you read my comment if you don't agree with it? 😂
She promised more corporate greed instead of populism. She completely missed the mark.
Putting up one incompetent candidate after another was a bad move James, that and failing on the economy and border security. If people felt better off under the democrats they'd have voted for them.
@@JohnSmith-it6hj Curious as to your opinion of the bipartisan border security bill that Biden attempted to pass (the most strict in decades) but that Trump successfully urged Republican legislators to scupple?
On the feelings issue - I think you are right. It's ironic though...to think that the right wing has consistently used Shapiro's "facts don't care about your feelings" against the left.
Nott was a decent man and had the guts to stand up for what was right. The type of conservative unknown in Britain 2024. Unless and until we have those sorts of people within the Tory party it'll remain the noisy child shouting from the terraces....
This wasn't an error, it was a decision.
Americans have shown you what their aspirations are, what they want their kids to grow up to be.
I'm genuinely sorry that you're disappointed (for the record, I am too), but the people in the US have spoken, with tens of millions of voices, and told you who they are.
Kamala promised stability, civility, respect and progress for all
Sure, and also enthusiastic backing for continuing the massacres in Palestine and Ukraine, very nice person
@@xmathmanx She tried to appeal to the blue haired pixies of the left while abandoning the working class and lost.
But gave the opposite
Kamala would not have been capable to deliver these things let's be honest. And anyway the game is always rigged. The people don't get to decide who gets in although the illusion is there.
Promised everything, delivered nothing . Where u been the last 4 years.
What they got wrong was existing 😂
Additionally, she did not have well informed campaign advisors and strategists ,to guide her in those red states.
DNC should have pressured Biden to not run and all and had a true primary. I understand why Kamala Harris got the nomination in reality but she was never a popular candidate.
I think Xi Jing Ping, was pulling Joe's strings. Those Dem's in San Fran are very connected to the ccp.
She ran on identity politics and thus had no policies, plus she was the one in power for 4 years and people obviously didn't see much improvement. Stop whining.
You mean Trump.
@@TS-bj8my trump in power for the last 4 years? You over slept
.. so people put a con artist in power to improve things! : )
And what did tRump run on, in addition to xenophobia and racism?? The VP is not power the President is.
That obrian doesn't know says all you need to know about him and one-sided chit chat ahitshow
The grievances that Americans who voted for Trump have in their lives are global issues so voting for Trump is not going to make the price of oil go down or inflation stop rising if only they payed more attention to global issues instead of just insulating themselves in their small communities.
If America drills it's own oil then everything will become cheap again. Oil literally rules the markets since it's everything.
Oil down 9 dollars a barrel already
Anything else?
Exactly! Someone with common sense.
If he doesn’t know then he is either not very bright, or has simply not been paying attention.
Lots of third parties in the battleground states. And sexism, racism, messaging. trumpf did not win many new voters but his voters voted for him. Biden/Harris voters did not all show up for Harris.
And why do you think that is?
Cry harder
Yeah, 20 million didn't show up. Lol.
maybe you could explain where the 15m votes went...Dems 2020 81,000,000, Dems 2024 66,000,000, yet a recorded high turnout in all states
I did a cursory check of the figures and I don't think the third parties made any difference. They didn't actually get much of a vote and she lost pretty convincingly in the swing states.
For USA democrats getting it wrong please refer to UK conservatives getting it wrong.
I thank you.
Your next question please.
They tried to make this election almost entirely about abortion. For most people, the spiralling cost of living and the looming threat of a global war are slightly more important than whether or not abortion is legal.
They treat abortion as contraception it's very dark.
And i totally agree with what you said. It's not difficult to understand. We all want the same things.
Fax. Still enjoying the liberal tears though, shows how out of touch most are.
Yea had to stop a booming economy!
Brian Clough wrote in his autobiography: "I will always remain convinced that those Liverpool fans who died were killed by Liverpool people”
Amen.
that losing bet on harris is still playing on james mind🤣
The fact you need to
Ask that questions says more about how much James and LBC are out of touch with ordinary people.
I don't think he is.
Did James just start the segment by insinuating the Poppy was about WW2? Lol
When you wear a Poppy, are you just remembering the Fallen of WW1? If so, what do you wear for the Fallen of WW2?
A failure to offer a compelling reason to vote for them, besides how bad Trump is. Very similar to the Brexit referendum and the 2016 election which is something I've only realised with the benefit of hindsight.
One side offering a delusional, but positive message, whereas the other was seen as advocating the status quo during a time when ordinary voters feel both disenfranchised and feeling a squeeze on real wages and the cost of living.
I'm not sure how the Democrats could have overcome those broader economic conditions (particularly when they had combatted inflation so much better than other developed nations), but their campaign was negative and their candidate only had a small window of time to state their case and acquaint themselves with the electorate. Both of those are major issues which the Dems could control and they're both issues which they can learn a lot from.
All true but not acknowledging that the republican campaign was dark while blaming the democrats for running a negative campaign. As far as learning its too late for such things...
@kwaii_gamer I'm not sure in what sense you're meaning dark?
I mean, I think the implications of the things Trump was advocating for are destructive, I think there's a lot of xenophobia tied in, so those things are certainly dark; however, the overall message was 'give me all the power and join my gang, then your life will be improved'.
While that's an exclusive message because an in group definitionally requires an out group, it's a positive one if you're part of the in group, and there isn't a barrier for entry to that group because you only need pledge your support and then you're in.
That's the difference, Trump says he'll make everything better, whereas the Dems focused too heavily on why Trump wouldn't achieve that which meant most of their messaging was Trump-centric, rather than Harris-centric.
A campaign highlighting the positives of a Harris presidency would have been more competitive because it would have provided two contrasting visions of the future, instead they built their campaign around opposing Trump, which just served to reinforce his anti-establishment rhetoric and the wider anti-establishment sentiment which is rife in global politics right now, as well as fighting the election on whichever issues he cared to raise - essentially fighting on turf of his choosing.
The implication of such a strategy comes across as justifying the status quo and attacking the guy who claims he wants to improve it, so voters view an attack on that candidate as an attack on their desire for an improvement in their material conditions because that desire is what Trump claims to represent.
Offering a positive case for how Harris would have improved things and focusing on that message in ways which beneficially contrast with Trump's approach would have been a far better strategy than what they ended up with.
I think the root problem is that the electorate reflexively distrusts politicians, so when those politicians attack someone who claims to be different to other politicians and offers a bold positive message (even if it's delusional), then people reflexively support the outsider because they already know they distrust the 'regular' politicians and the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
If someone is entertaining to you and claims to want to help you, then hearing someone you already distrust constantly talking smack about them will only push you closer to the person they're criticising - this is true of both personal relationships and how people engage with politics. Criticism only works if the audience you're appealing to already trusts you, otherwise it becomes an endorsement of who it's targeted at 🤷
Yesterday, I made a comment about democracy .This morning, James opened on the secret papers halfway to proving my point. When we vote it is to choose who will be doing the best for us. Not who will do the best for their friends and financiers. I remember the winter of discontent. Which brought Margaret Thatcher into power in 1979.
Yeah. Thatcher didn't have the atrocious background that Trump does.
And not the best of two mascots
@prsimoibn2710 Margaret Thatcher came in because of the economy at the time, so that's the similarities.
The promise that Kamala Harris made was to be a president for the entire country, not just the part of America that voted for her.
The majority had simply just had enough of the lefty bs.
Simple.
Simple, right. I hope everyone, including those who voted for Trump, aren't hurt by this as bad as they likely are to be
Yeah, you don’t need no health care insurance but what you can buy from your own pocket, nor that wussy old age pension!
I don't see any party leader in this country struggling to pay bills, by food and clothing for their families.
LBC is turning into the view on abc just with middle aged men, who earn a lot more than the working class.
If only he held the politicians that have allowed the destruction of Western society to account as he does trump
The what?
But Orange man bad.... Remember?
@@weswheel4834 Wesley. You know full well what is being said.
@@ibexdnb2879 Oh, this is "destruction of western society (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)" or "I think we all know what we are talking about" as the Key & Peele country songs sketch put it. Of course.
Who destroyed western society? When did it happen?
As an American who voted party-line Democrat for 17 years and just switched to vote for Trump: This man got **Literally. Everything. Wrong.**
EDIT: Except the one line where he said richest people telling the poorest people how to vote. Everything around that one line was wrong.
James loves a history lesson, trouble is nobody is listening
Apparently you are
Starmer met up with his pal Rupert Murdoch before being elected
@@ImloyaltoScotlandonly Okay, and presumably Murdoch's papers are now supporting Starmer in a way that suggests that he promised something? No? Nothing to see here then.
@@weswheel4834 starmer is a corporate toadie, he'd promise anything for power
You and me are
You embarrass yourself every time you open your mouth😉
Your not as creepy as 2teir but similar on the out of touch scales
Immigration and Inflation just like every western country. Getting real tired of all of you acting confused.
“But don’t forget that most men without property would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich, than deal with the reality of being poor. That is why they will side with us.”-attributed to the sensibilities of Founding Father John Dickinson
The Democrats lost because they inhabit the same microcosm as O'Brien.
We know how he won. 16 million fewer Democrats voted. The question is did they stay home or did something happen to their votes?
Harris simply said I'm not Trump and have celebrity endorsements...beyond that she offered little.
Not true
@HuplesCat you are wrong. Name me one of her policy's
@@pkia898All you have to do is go to her website...
- Cut taxes for 100 million working and middle-class Americans
- Build more affordable rental homes and give $25,000 to first time home buyers to help with down payments
Serious question, and it's not a gotcha: Did you bother to go to her website at all over these months? Or, did you mainly listen to what Trump and other Republicans said about her?
@pkia898 25000 for first time home buyers. 50, 000for small business start up.
But this is really not the real issue is it?
Nice try though
@@HuplesCat Did you not watch Harris' mild interviews and rallies. She referred to abortion rights (mis-stating much), she referred to Trump in every answer and would not do anything different to Biden, when asked.
They should rename themselves, there was nothing democratic about Kamala even being the nominee.