This makes total sense. Great topic. And congratulations on having the courage to address such a controversial topic so clearly! And I think next step is, who knows when (or if), sampke libraries. We"ll probably see a revolution in that area as well!
East/West probably has it right with their Composer Cloud+ subscription. I bet we'll be seeing more of that. I bet we'll see the ability to stream sample libraries from the cloud and you'll only need to download the giant 100+ GB libraires when you want more detail.
@@BenoniStudio Yes! That as well. But what I really meant is that A.I will replace sample libraries. For an exemple, you will record a line in your DAW with any simple ordinary patch (strings, organ, whatever or even in your notation software) and with a prompt: "I want this to be a solo violin, dry, with legato, staccato, expressivo, ultra realistic, etc". I'm pretty sure we will see something like this in two or three years, probably less. Look how this process is already scaring good on voices in sites like Audimee, ElevenLabs, etc. Veru exciting topic man. Do more on this!
@@MichelBarbaro yes. I would imagine that eventually the companies that have HUGE amounts of samples like Native Instruments and IK Multimedia etc... will start training an AI model with all of their samples, loops, and patterns and either license the model or create a subscription directly so you can prompt a huge orchestral section in seconds or hum into a mic and turn it into a piano melody
you own the license, which you could sell, as described in the video. The point is that plugins use to have value that you could re-sell if needed. I started out with second hand licenses for Komplete and BFD2. Now you can't re-coup your investment from plugins, which is what Im warning about. There use to be a huge Second Hand plugin market, now it's gone with the perpetual $29 plugins.
For me personally….having thousands of plugins are a thing of the past….its just clutter having a ton of plugins when you know you barely use most of them. I’ll never go subscription personally and I have no plans of running towards AI for my music production computer just yet,
don't say never. what will you do when the plugins you use go to subscription only? Because all software is moving that way. What if there is no purchase option? Because that's what I fear is going to happen eventually.
@@BenoniStudio well if you feel the need to keep up with the latest and greatest maybe…..if plugins I use go subscription only then I just stick to the ones I have before they went subscription….I don’t have an issue with not being on the latest version of a daw or OS as long as what I have is working, I bought an M3 Max with 16 cpu and 40 gpu cores and 64 gig of unified memory and as long as it lets me record my song how I want them recorded I don’t have any problems with not updating anything
The one reason I dumped Apple was their upgrades broke stuff, I have plugins I first used on Windows XP and still work on Windows 10. AI is not as good as you might believe and will never replace a good engineer/producer, so stop worrying.
i don't know man. I've seen some AI things that are very very good. each generation has some breakthrough technology the disrupts how things have always been, and i think AI is that thing for us. I'm sure there were blacksmiths back before industrialization saying the car and tractor will never replace the horse. What plugin do you have that worked on XP and still works on 10? It has to be VST2 right?
You'll have to define "need". Can a company come up with a way to offer a perpetual license without a subscription? Sure.... will they....no. There's a reason you see more subscriptions being offered everyday. If you know about how software development is being impacted by AI you'll understand why subscriptions are coming, like it or not. The only other option is to offer "Maintenance contracts" which is basically a subscription where you get to keep the old version if you don't buy it. This is the way Waves has done it for years. Techsmith which makes Camtasia and Snagit did the Maintenance Contracts too....but they just announced they are no longer offering them and they are going subscription only. These 1-year Upgrade contracts are being phased out all through the software industry. Another option which I have not talked about yet but may in a new video, is the Freemium model. That may be where everything is moving once the paradigm fully shifts.
F that Il going hardware, Im gonna learn analog engineering and make my stuff Like a vari mu by sound skultor cost 400$, thats sound better than almost any 3k or less hardware
I hear that alot, but unless you've owned hardware before and know what it takes for upkeep and repair, it may turn out to be a huge money pit. There's a lot of cost involved with hardware beyond the initial purchase.
@@BenoniStudio Yes sorry that's what I meant when I said analog engineering, meaning learning to create, modding, upkeep and repair analog hardware, I don't know the right term.
Idk but i cant agree to anyof the points you make here. Never gonna get a subscription. I need 5 plugins imma buy 5 plugins not subscribe to 235 ones i dont need.
If you only need 5 plugins you are not who Im talking about. I'm talking about those who will make audio their whole business and will need way more than 5 plugins. What will you do if the 5 plugins you need go to subscription only? Because that's the point I'm making. What will you do when you have no option to buy and the plugins you own will no longer be updated.
This makes total sense. Great topic. And congratulations on having the courage to address such a controversial topic so clearly! And I think next step is, who knows when (or if), sampke libraries. We"ll probably see a revolution in that area as well!
East/West probably has it right with their Composer Cloud+ subscription. I bet we'll be seeing more of that. I bet we'll see the ability to stream sample libraries from the cloud and you'll only need to download the giant 100+ GB libraires when you want more detail.
@@BenoniStudio Yes! That as well. But what I really meant is that A.I will replace sample libraries. For an exemple, you will record a line in your DAW with any simple ordinary patch (strings, organ, whatever or even in your notation software) and with a prompt: "I want this to be a solo violin, dry, with legato, staccato, expressivo, ultra realistic, etc". I'm pretty sure we will see something like this in two or three years, probably less. Look how this process is already scaring good on voices in sites like Audimee, ElevenLabs, etc. Veru exciting topic man. Do more on this!
@@MichelBarbaro yes. I would imagine that eventually the companies that have HUGE amounts of samples like Native Instruments and IK Multimedia etc... will start training an AI model with all of their samples, loops, and patterns and either license the model or create a subscription directly so you can prompt a huge orchestral section in seconds or hum into a mic and turn it into a piano melody
Well you purchased plugins but you don't own them. You only own license to use them. They are never be your own like many people thinking
you own the license, which you could sell, as described in the video. The point is that plugins use to have value that you could re-sell if needed. I started out with second hand licenses for Komplete and BFD2. Now you can't re-coup your investment from plugins, which is what Im warning about. There use to be a huge Second Hand plugin market, now it's gone with the perpetual $29 plugins.
For me personally….having thousands of plugins are a thing of the past….its just clutter having a ton of plugins when you know you barely use most of them. I’ll never go subscription personally and I have no plans of running towards AI for my music production computer just yet,
don't say never. what will you do when the plugins you use go to subscription only? Because all software is moving that way. What if there is no purchase option? Because that's what I fear is going to happen eventually.
@@BenoniStudio well if you feel the need to keep up with the latest and greatest maybe…..if plugins I use go subscription only then I just stick to the ones I have before they went subscription….I don’t have an issue with not being on the latest version of a daw or OS as long as what I have is working, I bought an M3 Max with 16 cpu and 40 gpu cores and 64 gig of unified memory and as long as it lets me record my song how I want them recorded I don’t have any problems with not updating anything
The one reason I dumped Apple was their upgrades broke stuff, I have plugins I first used on Windows XP and still work on Windows 10. AI is not as good as you might believe and will never replace a good engineer/producer, so stop worrying.
i don't know man. I've seen some AI things that are very very good. each generation has some breakthrough technology the disrupts how things have always been, and i think AI is that thing for us. I'm sure there were blacksmiths back before industrialization saying the car and tractor will never replace the horse.
What plugin do you have that worked on XP and still works on 10? It has to be VST2 right?
this is such a bad faith take. not a single one of your points needs subscription as the solution.
Its been prophetize for thousands of years, He's true and youll know it deep down.
You'll have to define "need". Can a company come up with a way to offer a perpetual license without a subscription? Sure.... will they....no. There's a reason you see more subscriptions being offered everyday. If you know about how software development is being impacted by AI you'll understand why subscriptions are coming, like it or not.
The only other option is to offer "Maintenance contracts" which is basically a subscription where you get to keep the old version if you don't buy it. This is the way Waves has done it for years.
Techsmith which makes Camtasia and Snagit did the Maintenance Contracts too....but they just announced they are no longer offering them and they are going subscription only.
These 1-year Upgrade contracts are being phased out all through the software industry.
Another option which I have not talked about yet but may in a new video, is the Freemium model.
That may be where everything is moving once the paradigm fully shifts.
F that Il going hardware, Im gonna learn analog engineering and make my stuff
Like a vari mu by sound skultor cost 400$, thats sound better than almost any 3k or less hardware
I hear that alot, but unless you've owned hardware before and know what it takes for upkeep and repair, it may turn out to be a huge money pit. There's a lot of cost involved with hardware beyond the initial purchase.
@@BenoniStudio Yes sorry that's what I meant when I said analog engineering, meaning learning to create, modding, upkeep and repair analog hardware, I don't know the right term.
Idk but i cant agree to anyof the points you make here. Never gonna get a subscription. I need 5 plugins imma buy 5 plugins not subscribe to 235 ones i dont need.
If you only need 5 plugins you are not who Im talking about. I'm talking about those who will make audio their whole business and will need way more than 5 plugins.
What will you do if the 5 plugins you need go to subscription only? Because that's the point I'm making. What will you do when you have no option to buy and the plugins you own will no longer be updated.