Fun fact about Kup: his original voice actor, Lional Stander, was the oldest born voice actor to ever be involved in the franchise, having been born the 11th of January 1908 snd passing away on the 30th of November 1994 at the age 86. So if he were still alive today, he would have be 116 years old, which would make him definitively the oldest voice actor in the franchise even more so.
There was a scene in the Dreamwave comics where the two of them met up and chatted for a bit before going off to do separate things which sort of alluded to them doing that later.
Just Kup, Landshark, Stratosphere, Ratchet, ETC Just sitting in the Cybertronian Retirement Home, and they ALL shout in unison; *"THIS REMINDS ME OF THE TIME-"*
Quintesson: You are the Autobot called Kup. You are Cybertron's chief of security. Kup (sarcastically): Nah, my name's Teaspoon and I'm Cybertron's chief dishwasher!
It’s insane that Kup hasn’t shown up in more media. He would fit perfectly in Animated and Prime. Here’s hoping he can make the jump to live action. Great video!
I feel like his role was given to Ratchet in Animated and then in Prime; as the shellshocked war vet. Kup would be kinda dissonant across from those versions of Ratchet. Also, Bayverse Hound was clearly meant to be Bulkhead at first.
One of my favorite characters from the movie. Every scene with him was a treat, and I can understand why the Dinobots were so interested in his stories
One of my favorite Kup scenes of all time is still him showing Guzzle how to effortlessly knock out multiple Decepticons in the span of a few seconds in Last Stand of the Wreckers. "Hold this (hands Guzzle his cygar), stay there, an' get ready to take notes... An' that my lad, is how it's done, old-school style."
Kup: Why I had the rust plague before we even had cog stabilizers! Ah well, them dame-bots at Macdamen's didn't seem to mind.. as long as I had enough weep grana on my nini bong! Say.. why are the Autobots yelling "MAXIMIZE!" all of a sudden?! Grimlock: uh, me Grimlock no doctor but it's probably time for Kups meds again. Thank you for such an awesome upload!
As a former soldier myself, I love the way Kup's character is written. By default, every unit has that one old soldier, based solely on how units are built. If Rodimus is the Commanding Officer with Magnus as his XO, Kup is essentially the Sergeant Major/Master Chief. The grizzled, old head with all the knowledge gained from experience.
Definitely a Sergeant Major lol! The OG toy is even given the rank of sergeant; the most recent version that’s also a GI Joe fusion names him Sergeant Kup partnered with Sgt. Slaughter as his driver in vehicle mode
Growing up all my Transformer toys where hand-me-downs from my dad. He was a lifelong fan of the series and had a giant collection of figures he'd collected over the years that I was absolutely not allowed to touch under any circumstances (a wise choice, given my reputation of destroying my toys). I wouldn't buy myself a figure until two years ago, a little over a year after my dad had passed. It was a Studio Series Kup I found in a Walmart. I wasn't particularly that fond of Kup when I bought the figure, and he was almost left behind in favor of a Studio Series Blurr. Flash forward a few months, I'm on the phone with my mom catching up on life events since I hadn't seen her since she moved out of state earlier that same year. I offhandedly mentioned that I'm slowly turning into my dad, unable to go into a store without walking out with a new Transformers figure, mentioning the Kup figure still sitting in his box on my bookshelf (I refused to open it for sentimental purposes. He was the first figure I ever bought myself after all). I will never forget the few moments of silence that passed before my mom had quietly said "you do know that was the first figure your dad ever bought, right?" I absolutely did not. I didn't even know he HAD a Kup in his collection, that's how big it was. My mom once told me that whenever you see a Cardinal, it's a loved one who had long since passed coming down from Heaven to see you. I haven't seen very many Cardinals since he passed in 2021, but I sure have seen a large amount of Kup figures. So sometimes, whenever I'm in a store's toy section and I see a Kup figure, I think it's a sign my dad is still watching over me
Kup is one of those characters that fits whatever role he's placed, be it Mentor, Elite Guard, or Wrecker. But above all else, he'd make a prime chronicler.
@Loremastrful Kup: "But here, youngun, lemme give ya a piece of advice." Hot Rod: "Yeah?" Kup: "Never deal with angels either". Hot Rod: "Why?" Kup: "Made that mistake. Once. Never again, not as long as I function. 'Cause, youngun, devils can be jerks... but angels are effin' IMPOSSIBLE!!!"
@charlieseely3464 Really? Where? Because, honestly, I thought I made that up. TBH, I didn't know I was pirating a reference from somewhere until you brought it up.
Kup's a favourite of mine via IDW, I adored his dynamic with Action Man and the rest of the Revolutionaries. His editorially-mandated stunt-death remains one of the greatest storytelling bummers from IDW's tenure, but I like to think that he eventually came back to life somehow, after the events of the Unicron mini. "That ain't even the first time they tried killin' me off in some kinda cockamamie crossover event, kid!"
@@JoleneBlakeisn't that bayverse barricade? That guy never dies. (Either that or Optimus Primes since they somehow keep getting oofed and revived somehow)
I think if Kup were to make a media come back sporting a realistic alt-mode, a Kei truck would fit him much better than a huge American pickup truck. Like a Kei truck, Kup is strong yet compact, low-profile and not that flashy but can always be relied on.
@@charlieseely3464 or a Ford Ranchero! Look up a 69 or 70 Ranchero GT with the hood scoop? Otherwise the Ranchero is just waaay too big! Haha when I was a kid, and Rodimus Prime first transforms (mind you I'm at the theatre, and my mom is still teary eyed over the disembodied "Arise, Rodimus Prime") my dad says "oh.. so he went from a Pantera to a Winnebago?!" And my mind was forever cursed that Rodimus is a recreational vehicle..
I restore classic cars, andni love Chevelle, Malibu, and El-Camino.. my fascination started when i would always ride past a flat nosed semi rhat was red, and a 1959 El-Camino just a block behind. It was blue, primer grey, and had a lot of rust. I was only about 6 or so and my mom would have me wave hi and say "Hi Optimus, and hi Kup!" To me I started identifying Kup as an El-Camino but a futuristic take since it was in the late 80's and my mom explained that the movie takes place in the 2000's.
@@DCMarvelMultiverse I think the first time I saw him as a toy was at Lionel Play World. Then I had to get him as a Target Master. I remember him, and Sureshot being shelf warmers at Zares along with Prowl in the gold packaging. But my uncle even thought of an El-Camino. It was the first time I was able to get a double of a figure.
Absolutely loved how he had an almost grandfatherly-esque relationship with the Dinobots in the movie. Makes me kinda wanna see a continuity where he's the literal grandfather of some of the Dinobots.
That IDW one shot comic is absolutely brilliant. In fact that entire comic run of one shots was so well thought out and really fleshed out even well known bots. All hail megatron is a high bar for me also. “As usual star scream you talk big, when all around you is small”
That IDW Spotlight issue was a bit disturbing, but it also provided a very good reason for his ever-present cygar and a little insight into just how much of a combat veteran he really is.
Great episode as always Chris. It's nice how despite his involvement in the franchise being somewhat scattered, Kup's involvement changes a great deal. As of late seem to be more involved in the comics than the shows which is not a bad thing, makes you sort of hope that as years progress we'll see him pop up in the Skybound run. But it's great that a character that was involved in the 86 movie has remained an integral part of the franchise, especially as there's always something so positively affirming about a grandfather character that's been there and done that and wants to continuously talk about it to the younger generation.
Two lines from Kup that always stand out. Both from The Movie. First was darkly humorous, when asked how he got out of a situation "I'm trying to remember, there were a lot of casualties that day." The other was just a great character moment, when asked whether Unicron reminded him of anything, he just quietly said "Nope, never seen anything like this, before.'
Ahh Kup old wiley and usually angry Kup....but in a good way. My sister got this toy back in the day but I got the Titans Return figure when it came out. Reminds me of my grandfather....an old timer who always had a story when it seemed us kids needed a lesson or two. And despite being early 70's when I was like 6-10 years old still stuck me out in baseball with a fastball that was clocked at 81 mph! WTF all my teammates laughed at me but no one else stepped up to the plate to test out the "old man" and get their "vapors" from him!! I miss you "pop-pop" but I will never forget you and all that you taught me. Semper Fi
I love the "pickup" pun being the origin of his name! "Of all the circuit-blown diode dimwittery, YOU LEFT A PIECE OUT!" Well, this video certainly didn't leave a thing out. LOL! Edit: I made a mistake of making the alliteration "double-crunching diode dimwittery", cuz it just sounds better to me.
Another great episode, and the only thing I would have suggested adding was the kerfuffle over how bad a lot of people thought the Studio Series toy looked, and how we got an 'apology' from Hasbro in the form of the Buzzworthy Bumblebee toy.
An absolute favorite of mine since I got his original toy back in the 80s. Now that I'm an old fart myself, I identify with Kup even more. Great episode.
An other great basics video. And also one other personal favorite character of mine, specially sense I now relate to Kups personality, age and love of telling stories of old. Hope that one day he will be in a new tv show or have a new major roll in a new movie in the future. Now where’s my cygar?
I believe it was Neil Ross (Springer) that told this story; Since Kup was Lionel Standers first ever voice acting job, he had a tendency to turn his head away from the mic toward whichever character he talking to during the ensemble recording. Much to the annoyance of voice direct Wally Burr So seeing that they didn't share many scenes Ross would get up from his spot at the table and sit across from Standers so he had someone to "talk to"
Kup is the most underappreciated member of the movie cast. His interactions with Hod Rod and the Dinobots were always fun to watch, and his bravery was admirable.
Kup’s spotlight story with the monster bots was in my elementary school library and I read it over and over again. I was also convinced that some of the highlighted words/letters spelled out a secret code and if I wrote them all down I could figure it out.
Kup is a great character, who in my view never truly filled the characters true role in the G1 cartoon. That being the father figure for Rodimus and then becoming his main adviser. With a more personal touch and eyes on the ground. While Magus did fill the same position he came with the position of Prime. Kup was the closest thing to family and if you look at history. There have been similar people that would try to keep them grounded. Kup on the other hand would do a far better job.
Right? I'd never really thought about it before but as I was going over old episodes writing the script for this vid, it really did strike me as odd how they completely jettisoned Kup from that "advisor to Rod" role. There's a little bit in "The Burden Hardest to Bear," which just highlights how missed of an opportunity it was for Roddy to have a real old friend he could speak candidly with about his worries.
@@ChrisMcFeely It was a real lost opportunity. Could have led down to some interesting stories. And without a father figure has always been the one thing Rodimus lacked as a character. Optimus Prime had Alpha Trion and his character is better for it. I always feel a lead character needs such a figure to fade into the background when they have played their part. Or to help change the character, the best example would be the father figures death. That would keep the hero on the path or to turn to evil. Which could lead to their destruction or a sacrifice for the greater good.
I have an idea for Kup myself in my Reveal the Shield storyline. My idea, basically, is that Kup used to be Sentinal Prime, who led the autobots before Optimus, and later on it was brought to light that while he was a Prime, he colluded with the decepticons. Kinda like an homage to the Dark of the Moon Sentinal Prime. I was originally gonna go the Animated route and have Sentinal be on the Elite Guard, being a Prime by rank, while Optimus is a Prime by the Matrix. But then when I decided to put an Avatar The Last Airbender spin on it, it worked better to have Sentinal Prime be the predecessor of Optimus Prime.
Hello there Chris McFeely and fellow Transformers fans of this channel. I do apologize for the tardiness of my comment, but when this video dropped I was busy getting ready and on my way to work and I had to save it to my watch later list. Of course, I am definitely glad that I did, because this video on Kup was absolutely amazing. Kup was a character that I saw in the Transformers Animated Movie and really thought that the character was a shining light in the Transformers Animated Movie, just because he helped Hot Rod out . However, I have to admit that I don't know much about this character and really enjoyed the fact that this video gave us that information on such a wonderful and wise cracking Autobot that I do hope shows up in a future Transformers Movie or animated series. Anyways thank you so much for this great video. I hope that you and everyone in the community has a great day and terrific weekend. Until then, I can't wait for the next exciting and informative Transformers video that comes our way. So Until All Are One. Peace Out and Maximize.
I feel like I started life as Hot Rod: Brash, Headstrong, leaping in before I look... These days I'm more like Kup: Old, Cranky, and always trying straighten out the youngsters! Oh, and not to mention, boring them to death with old stories! LOL
Kup: *If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Optimus Tzu said that. And I’d say he knows a little more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no living bot could best him in the ring of honour!* *And then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on Cybertron. And then he herded them onto a starship, and then he beat the SCRAP out of every single one!* *and from that day forward, any time a bunch of animals are together in one place, it’s called a ZOO!* Hot Rod: *…what?*
I loved the history in which he was teaching young Orion Pax to shoot his first blaster. And I can´t avoid imagining him with the voice of old Silvester Stallone from the new Creed movies, it fits him so well...
for a series about long lived alien Robots who have been at war for LITERALLY EONS, it says a lot about how tough the likes of Kup and Ironhide have to be to be among the few "grizzled old veterans" that we actually get to see
One thing I've always wondered about Kup in G1 is a how much older he was or wasn't in relation to season 1 characters like, say, Optimus Prime. Optimus was Orion Pax during the Golden Age of Cybertron 9 million years ago. So is Kup as old as Optimus? Based on the movie, it seemed he was even older than Optimus. Perhaps he's as old as Alpha Trion, already active since the time of Quintesson rule on Cybertron, 11 million years ago when Alpha Trion was A-3.
That's the SENSIBLE way to look at it, but things like "Chaos" and the BotCon stories actually peg him as younger than a lot of the Ark crew, and only BECOMING old and crusty during the four million years they were offline. Which doesn't make any sense when you look at all the other bots who were around pre-war who DIDN'T become that old.
Considering Alpha Trion is also considered an old man and he was part of the generation of Transformers who rebelled against the Quintessons, one could put him as at least as old as the First Golden Age, aka the period immediately after the Transformers first drove the Quintessons off Cybertron, before the Decepticons went to war with the Autobots the first time. The only problem with going that route is one would think he would know who the Quintessons are if that were the case.
@@Troublethecat Indeed. So Kup is most likely from a generation well after the Quintessons were driven out of Cybertron but before the rise of Megatron and birth of Optimus Prime.
As someone who was first introduced to Transformers from VHS episodes of season three of G1, Kup was one of my favourites, and I'm really hoping he gets involved in a cast of Autobots in some future show again 😊
I always liked Kup, that old scratchy voice was endearing to me and his tall tales were amusing. The interaction between him and Grimlock was always something that made me smile. I'm hoping at some point Kup will be involved in the new Energon Universe TF comics but that will have to be down the road a while I think.
Amazing job as per usual, Chris, amazing...! I've said it before and I'll say it again, you know you're getting older when you start identifying more with Kup than you do with Hot Rod, yes...? 'Kup's Story' has always been one of my favourite Marvel UK tales alongside the likes of 'Crisis of Command', and it was always interesting to see how Kup's more cynical/aggressive personality clashed on occasion with more idealistic 'bots like Optimus or even Rodimus Prime, yes...? (Also, as an ex-teacher myself, the urge to yell Kup's classic 'Turbo-revving young punks! I'll straighten you out yet...!' at your students is very familiar...still, it was always nice when they finally passed their exams and you could say 'I knew you had potential, lad/lass' to them instead, yes...? PS: The RUclips Unicron ate my previous comment to this effect, so sorry if this comment is a retelling like one of Kup's old war stories...but in the meantime, hope to see you at TFNation in August, yes...?)
Kup and Ironhide from the G1 series and movie, teamed up with Hound from the Bayverse movies. 3 grumpy old veterans knocking back some high octane energon drinks, trying to outdo each other telling tall tales.
"Reminds me of that time I had to fight sonic bats on Rigel 7." "Oh? How'd you win?" "I dunno; memory's a bit fuzzy. We had a lot of casualties that day."
great basics video. i love Kup. you left out out one version of Kup. After the studio series version there was the Buzzworthy Bumblebee redeco to make him more animation accurate. "There was this giant ickyak.....GRIMLOCK! get your noodle out of my face!"
I know they are different characters but I'm surprised you didn't mention the homage from RID, Dropforge. The sawed off, pint size police officer that literally looked like he was supposed to be Kup and then maybe got changed into a new character. Awesome video, I love Kup, definitely one of my faves!
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Fun fact about Kup: his original voice actor, Lional Stander, was the oldest born voice actor to ever be involved in the franchise, having been born the 11th of January 1908 snd passing away on the 30th of November 1994 at the age 86. So if he were still alive today, he would have be 116 years old, which would make him definitively the oldest voice actor in the franchise even more so.
Cool
So basically, the casting was accurate?
Some people would remember him as Max from the TV series Hart to Hart.
@@erikbihari3625 I was referring to how he is the single oldest person to have been part of the franchise, voice acting wise.
I now desperately wish he'd ever worked with Ernest Borgnine. Battle of the Gravelly Voiced Curmudgeons.
Hot rod: "Every place we go to remind you of someplace."
Kup: "Experience kid. You should learn to appreciate it."
Then when they finally see Unicron:
Hot Rod: "Doesn't this remind you of anything, Kup?"
Kup: "Nope, I've never seen anything like this before."
@@VCXZ883 That's one of my favorite lines in the movie, it's just such an excellent pay off to Kup's running gag.
@@VCXZ883Shit like this can only be seen once in a lifetime, and then not for anyone
Lad, experience Lad
Beware an old bot in a field were bots offline young
Kup is the best example of
" Respect the old in a profession were man die young ". He was a badass trough and trough.
Through and through
Imagine Kup and Ironhide knocking back the drinks at a bar, trying to out-do each other with there old war stories.
I always imagined that being a great story.
There was a scene in the Dreamwave comics where the two of them met up and chatted for a bit before going off to do separate things which sort of alluded to them doing that later.
I have drawn them fighting side by side...
Just Kup, Landshark, Stratosphere, Ratchet, ETC
Just sitting in the Cybertronian Retirement Home, and they ALL shout in unison;
*"THIS REMINDS ME OF THE TIME-"*
And then Springer tries to join in but both Kup and Ironhide know the ending to all of Springers war stories end "and then her husband came home."
Quintesson: You are the Autobot called Kup. You are Cybertron's chief of security.
Kup (sarcastically): Nah, my name's Teaspoon and I'm Cybertron's chief dishwasher!
Sounds like a smartass line *I'd* use. 😀
@@BennyLlama39 In my headcanon Kup probably taught Springer all he knows about wisecracks.
I though his name was shitpeice
Zero percent probability of truth. Identification positive ;)
Despite kup maybe old but he's got sass 😜 but that name would fit a pacifist bot. Or that was the bot first aid met
Hot Rod - Heh! Not bad for an old timer...!!!
Kup - Old Timer? That's something you'll never be if you don't get back to the city....!!!
Hot Rod - …Save it Kup!
@@SouljahUK let's burn rubber...!!!
"Curmudgeonly" is such a great word.
I had "crotchety" in there right until the final edit, until I decided "no, that simply won't do" and changed it right before uploading. 😆
@@ChrisMcFeely Good change. It's a good change. ~ Prince John, Robin Hood: Men In Tights
@@ChrisMcFeelydid you know what in the TFWiki all of Kup’s captions are Grandpa Simpson quotes?
We need a quote about bees when he's facing Insecticons. It's from the Union Leader Homer Episode. @akumaking1
Along with flabbergasted and persnickety
Hot Rod: This remind you of anything, Kup?
Kup: Nope, I’ve never seen anything like this before!
That's one of those great lines.
It's such a chilling moment when you give it some thought, and I never truly appreciated it until the last time I watched the movie.
It’s insane that Kup hasn’t shown up in more media. He would fit perfectly in Animated and Prime. Here’s hoping he can make the jump to live action. Great video!
He kinda got usurped by Hound...
@@martl8615someone considered bayverse hound to be if Kup became a bit more trigger happy in rodimus video on hounds
I feel like his role was given to Ratchet in Animated and then in Prime; as the shellshocked war vet. Kup would be kinda dissonant across from those versions of Ratchet.
Also, Bayverse Hound was clearly meant to be Bulkhead at first.
It's mostly because his role as the seasoned Veteran and advisor to Hot Rod has been given to other bots like Optimus and Ironhide and Rachet.
Considering how the live action movies have treated the old timer bots... I'd rather he not and retain some dignity.
One of my favorite characters from the movie. Every scene with him was a treat, and I can understand why the Dinobots were so interested in his stories
One of my favorite Kup scenes of all time is still him showing Guzzle how to effortlessly knock out multiple Decepticons in the span of a few seconds in Last Stand of the Wreckers.
"Hold this (hands Guzzle his cygar), stay there, an' get ready to take notes...
An' that my lad, is how it's done, old-school style."
Kup: Why I had the rust plague before we even had cog stabilizers! Ah well, them dame-bots at Macdamen's didn't seem to mind.. as long as I had enough weep grana on my nini bong! Say.. why are the Autobots yelling "MAXIMIZE!" all of a sudden?!
Grimlock: uh, me Grimlock no doctor but it's probably time for Kups meds again.
Thank you for such an awesome upload!
Still have my original Kup from my birthday in 1986, he truly is an old timer amongst my Transformer collection.
"Back in my day we didn't need no fancy ball 'n socket joints."
As a former soldier myself, I love the way Kup's character is written. By default, every unit has that one old soldier, based solely on how units are built. If Rodimus is the Commanding Officer with Magnus as his XO, Kup is essentially the Sergeant Major/Master Chief. The grizzled, old head with all the knowledge gained from experience.
Kups got huge CW5 energy
Definitely a Sergeant Major lol! The OG toy is even given the rank of sergeant; the most recent version that’s also a GI Joe fusion names him Sergeant Kup partnered with Sgt. Slaughter as his driver in vehicle mode
Growing up all my Transformer toys where hand-me-downs from my dad. He was a lifelong fan of the series and had a giant collection of figures he'd collected over the years that I was absolutely not allowed to touch under any circumstances (a wise choice, given my reputation of destroying my toys). I wouldn't buy myself a figure until two years ago, a little over a year after my dad had passed. It was a Studio Series Kup I found in a Walmart. I wasn't particularly that fond of Kup when I bought the figure, and he was almost left behind in favor of a Studio Series Blurr. Flash forward a few months, I'm on the phone with my mom catching up on life events since I hadn't seen her since she moved out of state earlier that same year. I offhandedly mentioned that I'm slowly turning into my dad, unable to go into a store without walking out with a new Transformers figure, mentioning the Kup figure still sitting in his box on my bookshelf (I refused to open it for sentimental purposes. He was the first figure I ever bought myself after all). I will never forget the few moments of silence that passed before my mom had quietly said "you do know that was the first figure your dad ever bought, right?" I absolutely did not. I didn't even know he HAD a Kup in his collection, that's how big it was.
My mom once told me that whenever you see a Cardinal, it's a loved one who had long since passed coming down from Heaven to see you. I haven't seen very many Cardinals since he passed in 2021, but I sure have seen a large amount of Kup figures. So sometimes, whenever I'm in a store's toy section and I see a Kup figure, I think it's a sign my dad is still watching over me
Kup always has and always will be the greatest of Cybertron's old war veterans, even Ironhide has learned from Kup's combat stories.
Kup is one of those characters that fits whatever role he's placed, be it Mentor, Elite Guard, or Wrecker. But above all else, he'd make a prime chronicler.
His underrated with so much potential for stories and deserve a spot light
Still disappointed that we've never gotten a flashback story revealing that Kup once had a partner named Mug.
Yeah... considering him and Mug used to be friends. Until a fembot named G'lass got between them...
Kup: Did I ever tell you about the deal I made with the Devil?
Hot Rod: No.
Kup: That's right. I didn't because only a fool would deal with that jerk.
@Loremastrful Kup: "But here, youngun, lemme give ya a piece of advice."
Hot Rod: "Yeah?"
Kup: "Never deal with angels either".
Hot Rod: "Why?"
Kup: "Made that mistake. Once. Never again, not as long as I function. 'Cause, youngun, devils can be jerks... but angels are effin' IMPOSSIBLE!!!"
I know this reference
@charlieseely3464 Really? Where?
Because, honestly, I thought I made that up. TBH, I didn't know I was pirating a reference from somewhere until you brought it up.
Kup? This is clearly Teaspoon.
You didn't even mention he's Cybertron's chief dish washer.
Kup's a favourite of mine via IDW, I adored his dynamic with Action Man and the rest of the Revolutionaries. His editorially-mandated stunt-death remains one of the greatest storytelling bummers from IDW's tenure, but I like to think that he eventually came back to life somehow, after the events of the Unicron mini. "That ain't even the first time they tried killin' me off in some kinda cockamamie crossover event, kid!"
Kup has the Outlier power of death not being able to take him.
@@JoleneBlakeisn't that bayverse barricade? That guy never dies.
(Either that or Optimus Primes since they somehow keep getting oofed and revived somehow)
I think if Kup were to make a media come back sporting a realistic alt-mode, a Kei truck would fit him much better than a huge American pickup truck. Like a Kei truck, Kup is strong yet compact, low-profile and not that flashy but can always be relied on.
I can see that but I always thought of him as a futuristic rusty 59 El-Camino, myself.
I used to think the Tesla Cybertruck was somewhat based on Kup
Who gonna voice actor
Or a Ford Ranger. Those are pretty small trucks
@@charlieseely3464 or a Ford Ranchero! Look up a 69 or 70 Ranchero GT with the hood scoop? Otherwise the Ranchero is just waaay too big! Haha when I was a kid, and Rodimus Prime first transforms (mind you I'm at the theatre, and my mom is still teary eyed over the disembodied "Arise, Rodimus Prime") my dad says "oh.. so he went from a Pantera to a Winnebago?!" And my mind was forever cursed that Rodimus is a recreational vehicle..
An underrated Autobot imo
Who else agrees?
Here-here!
100%
Kup is my favorite Transformer and it makes me sad that so many people don't know who he is.
@@beepo111 exactly
I restore classic cars, andni love Chevelle, Malibu, and El-Camino.. my fascination started when i would always ride past a flat nosed semi rhat was red, and a 1959 El-Camino just a block behind. It was blue, primer grey, and had a lot of rust. I was only about 6 or so and my mom would have me wave hi and say "Hi Optimus, and hi Kup!" To me I started identifying Kup as an El-Camino but a futuristic take since it was in the late 80's and my mom explained that the movie takes place in the 2000's.
I thought he was a futuristic El Camino when I first saw the toy at K-Mart.
@@DCMarvelMultiverse I think the first time I saw him as a toy was at Lionel Play World. Then I had to get him as a Target Master. I remember him, and Sureshot being shelf warmers at Zares along with Prowl in the gold packaging. But my uncle even thought of an El-Camino. It was the first time I was able to get a double of a figure.
“Turbo-revvin’ young punk! I’ll straighten you out yet!” 🤨
Absolutely loved how he had an almost grandfatherly-esque relationship with the Dinobots in the movie. Makes me kinda wanna see a continuity where he's the literal grandfather of some of the Dinobots.
Kup is one of my favourite Transformers that was introduced in 1986. It's about time for him to appear in the live action movie universe.
They had the spotlight comic in my local library. 7 year old me having only seen the cartoon, that comic still kinda sits with me whenever i think kup
Now don't touch that Dial, we'll be right back with Kup and his amazing adventures....right after this!
Grimlock: OH BOY!!!❤
Kup is easily the best character of the '86 Autobot cast introduced in the movie
As much as I love Ultra Magnus, I have to agree, Kup was pretty fantastic.
@@ShinGallon UM was a cool toy, but the movie giving him the catchphrase, "I can't deal with that now," didn't do him any favors.
"...So I tied an energon cube to my belt, which was a style in those days."
Ah yes everyone’s favourite robo grandpa who goes on adventures and tells stories of “well back in my day I would…..”
Awesome episode!
I was wondering when you'd get to him. He's one of my favorite autobots, and I think he should be in more cartoons
That IDW one shot comic is absolutely brilliant.
In fact that entire comic run of one shots was so well thought out and really fleshed out even well known bots. All hail megatron is a high bar for me also.
“As usual star scream you talk big, when all around you is small”
I love the story where he teams up with Arcee and Elita-1. 2 girls 1 Kup.
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He is the grumpy old warrior type that I love. I still remember watching him for the first time when I watched the movie.
That IDW Spotlight issue was a bit disturbing, but it also provided a very good reason for his ever-present cygar and a little insight into just how much of a combat veteran he really is.
Glad to see the old grouch is finally getting a basics video
He deserves more love
Great episode as always Chris.
It's nice how despite his involvement in the franchise being somewhat scattered, Kup's involvement changes a great deal. As of late seem to be more involved in the comics than the shows which is not a bad thing, makes you sort of hope that as years progress we'll see him pop up in the Skybound run.
But it's great that a character that was involved in the 86 movie has remained an integral part of the franchise, especially as there's always something so positively affirming about a grandfather character that's been there and done that and wants to continuously talk about it to the younger generation.
Two lines from Kup that always stand out. Both from The Movie.
First was darkly humorous, when asked how he got out of a situation "I'm trying to remember, there were a lot of casualties that day."
The other was just a great character moment, when asked whether Unicron reminded him of anything, he just quietly said "Nope, never seen anything like this, before.'
"Turbo-Revvin' young punk, I'll straighten you out yet!" Guess some old bots still got what it takes and Kup sure is one of them!
Ahh Kup old wiley and usually angry Kup....but in a good way. My sister got this toy back in the day but I got the Titans Return figure when it came out. Reminds me of my grandfather....an old timer who always had a story when it seemed us kids needed a lesson or two. And despite being early 70's when I was like 6-10 years old still stuck me out in baseball with a fastball that was clocked at 81 mph! WTF all my teammates laughed at me but no one else stepped up to the plate to test out the "old man" and get their "vapors" from him!! I miss you "pop-pop" but I will never forget you and all that you taught me. Semper Fi
I love the "pickup" pun being the origin of his name!
"Of all the circuit-blown diode dimwittery, YOU LEFT A PIECE OUT!" Well, this video certainly didn't leave a thing out. LOL!
Edit: I made a mistake of making the alliteration "double-crunching diode dimwittery", cuz it just sounds better to me.
Dimwittery? That's what he says! Well, that took me decades to be told. :)
Better late than never as they say!
Another great episode, and the only thing I would have suggested adding was the kerfuffle over how bad a lot of people thought the Studio Series toy looked, and how we got an 'apology' from Hasbro in the form of the Buzzworthy Bumblebee toy.
Kup's cygar + Bulkhead's shape + Hound's paintjob and military alt-mode = Bayverse Hound.
Change my mind.
1960 Ford F- 100.
@@ericdunn7352 Perfect.
Thanks
An absolute favorite of mine since I got his original toy back in the 80s. Now that I'm an old fart myself, I identify with Kup even more. Great episode.
Well with the release of Cyberverse Windblade in Legacy, maybe Cyberverse Kup has a shot of being released in the future.
An other great basics video. And also one other personal favorite character of mine, specially sense I now relate to Kups personality, age and love of telling stories of old. Hope that one day he will be in a new tv show or have a new major roll in a new movie in the future. Now where’s my cygar?
THIS IS MY FAVORITE BOT THANK YOU BRO!!!!!
Any bot who survives SEVERAL missions with the Wreckers is one to respect.
On my life I was hopin we would get a basics on Kup cuz I loved him in the IDW comics
OMG MY ALL TIME FAVORITE! MCFEELY YOU'VE MADE ME SO HAPPY!!!!
I believe it was Neil Ross (Springer) that told this story;
Since Kup was Lionel Standers first ever voice acting job, he had a tendency to turn his head away from the mic toward whichever character he talking to during the ensemble recording. Much to the annoyance of voice direct Wally Burr
So seeing that they didn't share many scenes Ross would get up from his spot at the table and sit across from Standers so he had someone to "talk to"
It was literally within the last five years that I finally realized why Kup is named Kup. I am older than his existence as a character. Derp. >.
This was great! Thanks Chris!
Another amazing video
Kup is the most underappreciated member of the movie cast. His interactions with Hod Rod and the Dinobots were always fun to watch, and his bravery was admirable.
I really want a thing where Kup is at Mcaddams and him and Mac are just one upping each other with stories
Kup’s spotlight story with the monster bots was in my elementary school library and I read it over and over again. I was also convinced that some of the highlighted words/letters spelled out a secret code and if I wrote them all down I could figure it out.
Kup is a great character, who in my view never truly filled the characters true role in the G1 cartoon. That being the father figure for Rodimus and then becoming his main adviser. With a more personal touch and eyes on the ground. While Magus did fill the same position he came with the position of Prime. Kup was the closest thing to family and if you look at history. There have been similar people that would try to keep them grounded. Kup on the other hand would do a far better job.
Right? I'd never really thought about it before but as I was going over old episodes writing the script for this vid, it really did strike me as odd how they completely jettisoned Kup from that "advisor to Rod" role. There's a little bit in "The Burden Hardest to Bear," which just highlights how missed of an opportunity it was for Roddy to have a real old friend he could speak candidly with about his worries.
@@ChrisMcFeely It was a real lost opportunity. Could have led down to some interesting stories. And without a father figure has always been the one thing Rodimus lacked as a character. Optimus Prime had Alpha Trion and his character is better for it. I always feel a lead character needs such a figure to fade into the background when they have played their part. Or to help change the character, the best example would be the father figures death. That would keep the hero on the path or to turn to evil. Which could lead to their destruction or a sacrifice for the greater good.
We do get a bit more of the old set up between them in season 4 when he's Hot Rod again.
Kup is another character who needs to be revisited. We haven't seen him in ages.
Generations Kup is such a good figure man. Genuinely the most underrated mould of all time in my opinion.
I have an idea for Kup myself in my Reveal the Shield storyline.
My idea, basically, is that Kup used to be Sentinal Prime, who led the autobots before Optimus, and later on it was brought to light that while he was a Prime, he colluded with the decepticons.
Kinda like an homage to the Dark of the Moon Sentinal Prime.
I was originally gonna go the Animated route and have Sentinal be on the Elite Guard, being a Prime by rank, while Optimus is a Prime by the Matrix.
But then when I decided to put an Avatar The Last Airbender spin on it, it worked better to have Sentinal Prime be the predecessor of Optimus Prime.
Hello there Chris McFeely and fellow Transformers fans of this channel. I do apologize for the tardiness of my comment, but when this video dropped I was busy getting ready and on my way to work and I had to save it to my watch later list.
Of course, I am definitely glad that I did, because this video on Kup was absolutely amazing. Kup was a character that I saw in the Transformers Animated Movie and really thought that the character was a shining light in the Transformers Animated Movie, just because he helped Hot Rod out . However, I have to admit that I don't know much about this character and really enjoyed the fact that this video gave us that information on such a wonderful and wise cracking Autobot that I do hope shows up in a future Transformers Movie or animated series.
Anyways thank you so much for this great video. I hope that you and everyone in the community has a great day and terrific weekend. Until then, I can't wait for the next exciting and informative Transformers video that comes our way. So Until All Are One. Peace Out and Maximize.
Good thing this video came out i needed inspiration to finish my kup build
I feel like I started life as Hot Rod: Brash, Headstrong, leaping in before I look... These days I'm more like Kup: Old, Cranky, and always trying straighten out the youngsters! Oh, and not to mention, boring them to death with old stories! LOL
Kup: *If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Optimus Tzu said that. And I’d say he knows a little more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no living bot could best him in the ring of honour!*
*And then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on Cybertron. And then he herded them onto a starship, and then he beat the SCRAP out of every single one!*
*and from that day forward, any time a bunch of animals are together in one place, it’s called a ZOO!*
Hot Rod: *…what?*
0:14 These are the Basics Of 🥤.
Thank you for covering Kup! 🙏
I loved the history in which he was teaching young Orion Pax to shoot his first blaster. And I can´t avoid imagining him with the voice of old Silvester Stallone from the new Creed movies, it fits him so well...
I do love how he is essentially Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime's Ironhide
Old war veteran who have plenty of experience and knows how to take charge
We haven't seen the Elite Guard in fiction for a hot minute. I miss them.
Aye that would be great
for a series about long lived alien Robots who have been at war for LITERALLY EONS, it says a lot about how tough the likes of Kup and Ironhide have to be to be among the few "grizzled old veterans" that we actually get to see
One thing I've always wondered about Kup in G1 is a how much older he was or wasn't in relation to season 1 characters like, say, Optimus Prime. Optimus was Orion Pax during the Golden Age of Cybertron 9 million years ago.
So is Kup as old as Optimus? Based on the movie, it seemed he was even older than Optimus. Perhaps he's as old as Alpha Trion, already active since the time of Quintesson rule on Cybertron, 11 million years ago when Alpha Trion was A-3.
That's the SENSIBLE way to look at it, but things like "Chaos" and the BotCon stories actually peg him as younger than a lot of the Ark crew, and only BECOMING old and crusty during the four million years they were offline. Which doesn't make any sense when you look at all the other bots who were around pre-war who DIDN'T become that old.
Considering Alpha Trion is also considered an old man and he was part of the generation of Transformers who rebelled against the Quintessons, one could put him as at least as old as the First Golden Age, aka the period immediately after the Transformers first drove the Quintessons off Cybertron, before the Decepticons went to war with the Autobots the first time. The only problem with going that route is one would think he would know who the Quintessons are if that were the case.
@@Troublethecat Indeed. So Kup is most likely from a generation well after the Quintessons were driven out of Cybertron but before the rise of Megatron and birth of Optimus Prime.
As someone who was first introduced to Transformers from VHS episodes of season three of G1, Kup was one of my favourites, and I'm really hoping he gets involved in a cast of Autobots in some future show again 😊
One of my fave 'bots!
I always liked Kup, that old scratchy voice was endearing to me and his tall tales were amusing. The interaction between him and Grimlock was always something that made me smile.
I'm hoping at some point Kup will be involved in the new Energon Universe TF comics but that will have to be down the road a while I think.
Kup is a true badass. And a great leader as well.
He's like the Transformers equivalent to Wolverine.
Amazing job as per usual, Chris, amazing...! I've said it before and I'll say it again, you know you're getting older when you start identifying more with Kup than you do with Hot Rod, yes...?
'Kup's Story' has always been one of my favourite Marvel UK tales alongside the likes of 'Crisis of Command', and it was always interesting to see how Kup's more cynical/aggressive personality clashed on occasion with more idealistic 'bots like Optimus or even Rodimus Prime, yes...?
(Also, as an ex-teacher myself, the urge to yell Kup's classic 'Turbo-revving young punks! I'll straighten you out yet...!' at your students is very familiar...still, it was always nice when they finally passed their exams and you could say 'I knew you had potential, lad/lass' to them instead, yes...?
PS: The RUclips Unicron ate my previous comment to this effect, so sorry if this comment is a retelling like one of Kup's old war stories...but in the meantime, hope to see you at TFNation in August, yes...?)
My favourite bot in the whole franchise, surprised there hasn't been been a basics video till now, was tempted to ask for it on patreon
The old Autobot warrior gets the spotlight.
Thank's a lot for doing another Autobot.
I remember when I had the war for cybertion on ds a character would always meantion kup and I had no idea for the longest time who that was
We were robbed of a Bayformers Kup in The Last Knight!
Yeah, Hound or Bulldog would have make more sense as Kup
@@Karver26definitely should have been Bulldog just due to how old he is, he might have some stories left in his memory banks
I wondered when this would come out.
Please do Tracks and the Technobots/Computron next week! 🙏🏻
Kup is an amazing character of the Transformers franchise!👍🏻
I believe after this the only 86 movie character yet to get the basics treatment is Wreck-Gar.
Kup and Ironhide from the G1 series and movie, teamed up with Hound from the Bayverse movies. 3 grumpy old veterans knocking back some high octane energon drinks, trying to outdo each other telling tall tales.
I’ve had the toy from the Generations line, as he was a modern style truck.
"Reminds me of that time I had to fight sonic bats on Rigel 7."
"Oh? How'd you win?"
"I dunno; memory's a bit fuzzy. We had a lot of casualties that day."
great basics video. i love Kup. you left out out one version of Kup. After the studio series version there was the Buzzworthy Bumblebee redeco to make him more animation accurate. "There was this giant ickyak.....GRIMLOCK! get your noodle out of my face!"
I know they are different characters but I'm surprised you didn't mention the homage from RID, Dropforge. The sawed off, pint size police officer that literally looked like he was supposed to be Kup and then maybe got changed into a new character. Awesome video, I love Kup, definitely one of my faves!
1:15 This is the first time I think the final version actually looks more like the toy. At least he had the big windshield on the chest.
It's been a long while waiting for Kup to have the Basics.
I don't know why but I always had this headcanon that it was Kup's adventures through space that gave the inspiration for the Wreckers to be created.
Kups spotlight story is one of my favorites I have all of the 4 volumes for spotlight
I still chuckle when Kup talks about the giant Ick-Yak monster to the dinobots in the 1986 movie.
On the TFWiki, all of Kup’s captions are Granda Simpson quotes.