Great news from Helsinki - new tram line built faster than planned!
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- Опубликовано: 30 окт 2023
- Helsinki has launched a new tram line and that's great. But this news is quite unique because all works were made a year sooner than planned and for lower budget. All cities should learn from Helsinki.
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Finland: We built a light railway ahead of schedule and under budget! 🙂
USA, Canada, UK, Australia and NZ: 😭😭😭😭
add Germany to the list
add the rest of the world to this
And it's huge!!! 34 stations - crazy.
Corrupt bureaucratic nations p much.
it's not light rail, you, american, it's a tram
"Raide Jokeri", as it's called, isn't actually the first such project to be completed under budget and opened sooner than planned. Tampere did it first a couple years ago with its tram / lightrail, which has been a huge success! An extension is under construction and many more currently under planning.
This is very cool. Everyone should learn from Finland how to implement such large projects.
@@cityforall For transit projects, yes! For nuclear power plants, only if you wish to break the record for the most expensive building. OL3 Nuclear reactor opened just recently in 2023, when it was originally meant to open in 2009. Then again, to be fair, it is a French design.
@@NeonNion And Helsinki-Espoo Länsimetro (first phase)…
@@nori8627 That is very much true, but lessons were learned and the second phase went smoothly.
@@NeonNion nuclear plants is the place where it's better to check everything twice and then once more :)
Well done Finland,if this was the UK they would still be talking about it 10 years from now, and the price would have gone up fourfold.
Well done Helsinki you mean. My home town in Finland, Turku, had trams but took them all down in the 70s. Now they’ve been talking about building them again for like 20 years but as of right now there are no plans nor budget for the project. The idea of finishing something ahead of schedule and under budget is a completely alien concept for me lol. Turku does absolutely everything wrong, slow and over budget when it comes to transport projects.
Yet in England, the Elizabeth line, Heathrow Terminal 5 and Edinburgh trams were all over budget, behind schedule. Don't get me started on HS2.
But interestingly HS1 was delivered within the budget and on time. Miracles do happen sometimes!
And the Conservative government are trying to find a way to scuttle the whole thing, after cancelling 2/3rds of the project 😭
The tram line was originally proposed in 1990 but for some reasons it was delayed and it was implemented as a bus line in 2003.
meanwhile in greece the railway is being abandoned, as a greek i am screwed
All the railway is abandoned? Omg
Oh hey, it's the tram in my pfp! Thanks for covering our new tram!
meanwhile in Toronto… 🫠
Green tram tracks
I love 'em
Maybe the US should contract out any tram/light rail projects to the Finns.
The "north link" in Stockholm, a huge motorway tunnel around the northern parts of the city, also went underbudget when it was finished in 2014! it ended up costing 9.3 bln SEK (820 mln €) which was 2.6 bln SEK (230 mln €) under budget! That's more than 20% under budget! I think much of that was the lower interest rates and easy access to labour following the lehman brothers crash. Although then again I'm sure raidejokeri benefited from the pandemic as well with much less traffic and all that.
Hi! You should take a look to Tampere’s tram project as much of new Helsinki line is actually like a copy of theirs. Tampere built their first line within the budget and schedule too. Anyway Helsinki Espoo metro was very different story in contrast. :)
And they also use Skoda trams as I know
Cries in Poznań
Because of renovation at the city center?
@@cityforall The fact of renovating is good and I'm happy Poznań tram infrastructure is better than in other Polish cities. But the fact that it takes so long is very inconvenient. Instead of having shifts, the workers work from morning to evening 4 days a week.
You should look into the Durchmesserlinie in Zürich which was built under budget and on time or the Gotthard base tunnel
Really excellent work .
Coming early and under budget is rare, but not impossible. It happened in Utah in the US about 10 years ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Transit_Authority#FrontLines_2015
That's interesting, I'm actually working on video about Salt Lake City LRT.
This is how it works when there is no corruption!!!!1111
Light Rail is the best.
Find some Finnish person and tell them they will not be allowed in a sauna unless they reveal the secret! This sounds like deep, dark and ancient magic! Or did they just multiply their first estimate with pi as you probably should?
Oh easy. It's because of the alliance model.
Alliance model also demands a reliable budged estimate which both of the parties can believe in, so the final budget held. There were some grumblings when that was locked, because the initial estimates to win the bid were, surprise: grossly underestimated.
Covid helped to speed up the works. Due to reduced traffic some roads could be closed for works completely.
@@Eeroke A reliable budget that both parties can believe in? Shouldn't the contractor just underbid like crazy to get the contract, and then come up with a few hundred excuses for why everything unfortunately turned out more expensive, and they have to be compensated for these factors totally beyond their control? And shouldn't the city just forget about including about half of the details and much of the wider consequences of a big infrastructure project? Finnish people are strange.. Usually in a good way! 😅
@@geirmyrvagnes8718
Sorry, I fumbled it. The initial estimate was 275 million to get the project approved. Then some more planning was done, the bids rolled in and the price was set 386 million, which the politicians swallowed with some hiccups. Oh, and the vehicles were 95 million more, but those were on the transit agency.
I don't know how the alliance model does the penalties for budget overruns and delays in such a way that the builders can't just hold the half finished work site as a hostage. I suppose it's yet another buzzword for bunch of best practises, like that someone is actually tasked to monitor what the contractors are up to.
there's a mistake at 3:11 - it's guaranteed there'll be new development along the tram route
Wth? We in Linz, Austria are planning a 4-5km tram-train (really a tram) line with 1-2km of tunnels for 1 billion Euros. Being discussed for 30 years and now planning to be opened in 2032 (which is incredibly unrealistic).
edit: ok so it's not clear wether the billion is also meant for the S7 regional-city rail project. This would be a ~25km new tram-train line that will be built after the 4-5km section I was referring to.
It's far from my home😢. Luckily Helsinki is going to build tram "Länsi-Helsingin" raitiotiet near me.
It's insane how this is the first time i come across one of these project where they're in budget and on time.
They might give a lesson or two to the Belgians, with the construction of the new metro line in Brussels now in limbo. It's behind schedule, the budget is skyrocketing out of control, the authorties just don't have a clue how to solve the technical and financial challenges they're facing... For short, it's a disaster and a total quagmire.
Oh don't worry, our (now finished) metro extension exceeded the budget by 25% in both phases.
Not to mention that the recently finished nuclear reactor was delayed by 14 years.
But HOW?
There's nothing to learn, if you don't tell how they did it.
I'll try to make more detailed video about it in the future
@@cityforall I'm looking forward to it, thanks in advance :)
The official story goes something like this: The new light rail was implemented with the alliance, formed by 2 cities, the planners and the implementers. The principles of the project: early integration, mutual targets, contract and mutual commercial model, shared risks and benefits and mutual development phase. The operating principles were working for the best for the project, building trust and continuous improvement.
The key words probably are "shared risks and benefits", all members of the alliance were motivated to work effectively, in all parts of the project.
@@mikrokupu That sounds plausible. The "get paid by time" model just doesn't work well in projects.
I just want to know, in most countries, are building of trams and metros a work of the sub-national jurisdictions, such as municipalities or counties or a function of the national government? This is because when it is the national government planning, delays due to fiscal pressure and local politics can surface and cause delays. If it is from the sub-national jurisdictions, both problems can also arise and cause similar delays. So which is better?
The details may vary from country to country, but in general, local authorities are responsible for planning, and the government helps financially by compensating part of the construction costs.
In NYC, it would take 20 years to build.
But you have a nice underground, don't you?
And it squeaks very loudly in corners. So loudly that a lot of people are complaining because you can hear it even inside very loudly
"Great news from Helsinki - new tram line built faster than planned!" - or to put it another way, "Construction will Finnish earlier"
I'll get my coat
@oc_transpo, compare and learn!