Valorant doesn't reward spraying at all. The rifles in this game are designed to make sure that you shoot enemies in a 2-3 bullet burst, that is if you kill them. When the 4th bullet comes, all the bullets that will come right after are all going to spray randomly.
it takes 4 vandal shots to the body to kill? the first 9-10 bullets with the vandal is just a downward pull. long range valorant is easier because u dont need to counterstrafe for accurate taps short range valorant is easier because spray is shorter and easier to be accurate.
Yeah I’ve found that out, I think the reason is because most of the weapons do more damage so it’s meant to reward aim/crosshair placement instead. Half of the rifles and even a few pistols will kill in 1 or 2 headshots, and to balance this they made the recoil more uncontrollable
Valorant's vandal spray is designed to be more random because you are expected to do more controlled bursts to reward peeking and crosshair placement. CSGO is more oriented to reward open gun duels rather than utility usage. The difference is simple Edit: congratulations to everyone who missed the point in the replies
There are some theories it’s also RNG due to engagement optimized matchmaking. There’s a thought that the pattern and latency advantage is more in your favor if you’re intended to win the match.
valorant has basically the cs 1.6 gun mechanics... Yet i rather disagree about cs's utility, it is as important as gunfights and has more depth in creativity than valorant. Even today people still find new lineups for flashes, mollys and smokes on the good'ol dust2
he wasn’t tapping, he was bursting. instead of tapping the mouse per bullet, he held for 3 bullets. if he tapped it would be the same. valorant may have random spray patterns, but it’s actually more tactical given you need to tap shots and hit heads rather than the spray meta of cs
CSGO spray is easier for me because of muscle memory but it's not necessarily better. I'm having a hard time with engagements in Valorant because I shift spray or crouch spray too much. Currently MGE in CS and Gold 3 in Valorant.
yo I was global when I played mm and now 2200 elo on faceit and gold 3 in valo hahahah still working out how it works tho but it's very true what you portrayed, sometimes i tend to do a lot of sprays that really doesnt work on valorant. Is really tap and burst only
I found Vandal recoil is somewhat random after 5 shoots . it is more rewarding for those who good at tapping and bursting but not for someone who love to hold mouse1
I feel like it would be hard to make spraying viable in valorant because the pattern is so easy it would be tough for devs to walk the line of balanced and OP
You mistake spacing with difficulty. Both of these movements are so slow that the spacing just doesn't matter you're getting used to 1 movement or the other, the reason why sprays are harder or easier with different guns is far more reliant on the horizontal movements and in that case val sprays are actually just harder. Was LEM btw
@@Blueisoji The spread is more random. It has a pattern but since it has a random spread, it doesn't make spraying appealing enough. That''s why no one sprays with a Vandal.
I long quitted csgo and I didn't play it that much. I have like 96 hours of playtime. The hardest part in csgo for me is movement while the spray is pretty easy once you remember the pattern. In valorant, it's pretty hard to shoot. The first few bullets like 3-6 shots, it's kinda accurate and the bullets after that is kinda random.
@@4ll_Pretty_0_Ability "the hardest part in csgo for me is movement", learn how to counter strafe my dude, if you know how to counter strafe + good aim + know how to spraying with the Ak, then it's no big deal
For me, the CSGO spray pattern is more easier, I don’t know why but I can’t spray with a Vandal or Phantom on Valorant. The vandal spray is comparable to the galil in csgo
Just a potential note CSGO FOV on 16x9 is 90, while Valorant is locked at 103 no matter the resolution. The CSGO spray might look harder/taller because there isn't as much horizontal:vertical room on the screen
I think things like random recoil patterns and first shot inaccuracy are inherently anti-competitive. I get Val is more tapping than spraying, but you could solve that by making the recoil pattern very hard to learn. Combined with slower movement speed, Val feels very slow and precise. Which is better for some, but CS will always *_feel_* better than Val.
It's a very specific way of keeping lower skilled players interested in the game, some days your spray will hit everyone, someday it won't, it does take away competitiveness but for the vast majority that doesn't matter because they will never play competitively/professionally
i feel like when you move slightly while shooting in csgo, the bullet still fly only little bit off the center of your crosshair, but in valorant, if you "Slightly" move even a little bit, the bullet just fly waaaaaay out of your crosshair
He's right, Valo movement impacts shot accuracy much much more, not sure why you guys are talking outta your asses haha doesn't mean either game is worse
hat still doesn't change the fact that there are 49million kangaroos in Australia and 3.5million people in Uruguay which means if the kangaroos were to invade Uruguay each person will have to fight 14 kangaroos
Valorant is a child of csgo, just to extract silvers and to make them play against each other, so they can enjoy the game and have discussion about the smoke lineup they did, when all they had to do is pull out a device and mark area to throw smoke.
Vandal is better vertically but the horizontal spread is horrible, AK spray is fairly standard with both horizontal and vertical inaccuracy being easily to control assuming enough practice. That being said vandal is far superior in quick bursts firing off 3 to 5 shots as the vertical recoil is so easy to control on the initial shot. As for those who want to spray just use phantom a lot tighter and easier to use than both imo
My highest in csgo is dmg and Diamond in Valorant. One thing I must say is that csgo felt a lot more competitive than playing valorant. The reason for that is why add randomness and one shot ability to a competitive game?
Because the games made for casuals very clearly, Once it dies like fortnite did (also made for casuals) maybe they will fix it and actually make the game competitive and non-rng. Then it will be a real CS-GO rival.
The only difference between these games - the AK-47 has a very strong recoil (the scope twitches almost on half of the screen), and Vandal has a random spread after 4-5 bullets, but very little recoil.
Csgo PROs - Better sprays - better knives - better community (no surrender culture) - better guns - better movement mechanics - can trade Csgo CONs - dogshit anti cheat - mm takes 4 billion years to find a match - All new maps are absolute and utterly dogshit -skins cost an arm and a leg Valorant PROs -Variety of skins -Skins are cheaper -new agents keep the game fresh -new maps aren't always dogshit -better anti cheat -God speed mm -more variety in movement mechanics Valorant CONs -MASSIVELY DOGSHIT spray (rng) -too low of a skill ceiling (debatable) a little higher would make it more fun to learn the game. -surrender culture -Fracture -too many glitches and bugs.
@@xoan7278 You can see many streamers and pros who have played a ton of both games and even they say csgo is harder. Flashes can curve around and shit which makes peeking easier than bounces flashes. Moving while shooting is more friendly in valorant than csgo.
if you played cs a lot valorant is so easy, especially if you have a stack. i swear that until you get to like immortal, everyone is aiming with their toes and doesn't use their ears
cs: patterns to master for insane spray transfer clips and rewards commiting and spraying if u have practiced. val: shoot few shots hope u got head brr
Why everybody saying that if vandal has random recoil paterns just like in cs 1.6? What does that mean? It's pretty the same like ak-47 in csgo to me Cs 1.6 is much more way random and harder than vandal in valorant, they literally have like 27 patterns for a single rifle like m4a1 and ak
The spray pattern is better in csgo, and it's a whole lot easier to tap heads my shots register a lot more, considering since I'm a casual player. The servers don't feel like a laggy/inconsistent mess, the movement is a lot faster too. If only riot were to make the gunplay and servers feel just as fluid as csgo I would go back to the game in a heartbeat.
@@kardiacc not from my experience.. now unless if ur talking about faceit csgo then yes I agree the servers are absolutely, other than that I surprisingly almost never encounter any cheaters in normal mm csgo, I ended up killing wallers most of the time anyway.
valorant spray becomes random after like 8-10th bullet and cs stays. But the cs also has a con. There's RNG, even at the first bullet you might not hit your target if he's really far away.
I ALWAYS hit all my taps in cs go with AK in long distance. go in the range on valorant and shoot 30m on the target bot who gives you the damage. 1 out 4 bullets miss
@@Rodinho37 you don't ALWAYS hit all your taps in cs go. There's literally an rng system that prevents you from doing it. Open weapon debug with crosshairstyle 2 and you'll see it that even if you crouch, and double scope with awp you still have a tiny bit of chance to miss your target
To those saying valorant spray is easier. It's not. Starting on valorant comapred to csgo spraying wise it is easier imo but once you learn the spray in cs it is easy. But with valorant it's so inconsistent I find myself whiffing hard sometimes because of the spray compared to cs. (I'm immortal btw).
@@crayoneater1717 STG. I've had so many games where round after round i get run and gun'd with a vandal. Its frustrating. Sometimes you can punish it but most of the time i just get one tapped while they are doing it. Where as in CS if someone is run and gunning its easy to punish people. Out of all my problems with val that is the biggest complaint I have. It has no place in a game like Val or CS.
no??? csgo has a pattern to it, valorant made it random so we dont just see people standing in the open dueling each other from distance without utility
@@tescomealdeal5234 yeah, CS also have a randomized pattern actually but its very miniscule in comparable to Valorant, but they do follow the similiar pattern as the center of the randomized shot
I saw someone say that he has a bad habit pf crouch spraying, and I can tell you, a habit of crouch spraying is bad on both games. It makes you a bigger target and it slows you down. But Upon practicing my csgo sprays, I learned to rarely crouch spray. Relying on the results ive got from weeks of spray practice. Crouch spraying to me now is very sutuational. Either wide swing-ing an awper or transferring the spray. This new habit of not crouch spraying made me more relaxed, and more relied on my crosshair placement and definitely helped a lot in valorant where spraying doesn't reward you much as much as in cs. I am at DMG, and currently solo grinding my val account from silver, and currently plat 1.(coz i rarely play val 😂) + if u really have a pretty low sens like me, you would rather focus on crosshair placement first than actual spraying. CSGO sens: 0.50 | 800 Dpi | 400 eDpi Valo sens: 0.16 | 800 Dpi | 128 eDpi
dude thank you, people comparing things like the spray pattern (not the uploader) always just bring up that it being random takes away from the completive aspect but in csgo spraying is a skill but in valorant spraying is a way to get killed fast, tapping is so important in valorant but people gloss over the fact that they are two different games
@@pvthon hard agree everyone in the comments are comparing apples to oranges, CSGO is about spray control while in valorant your not meant to spray since it's easier to kill with almost any gun it's all about precise aim
Idk man, i feel like i get killed in valorant more than CS due to the run and gun spray with either a vandal or phantom. I wish they would make the run and gun more inconsistent and maybe touch up on the spray patterns a bit as well. It's rough to headshot someone when they just run up at me and spray but thats just imo
@@MingLee101 When he refers to run and gun hes referring to people not even bothering to counter strafe when you're equipped with a rifle such as the vandal or phantom because they know that the enemy wont punish them for it
Probably because the armor punch is way over the top. You might as well be stunned in Valorant if a bullet evens gets near you. It's not like you can even try to reposition.
You can't say otherwise since these are two different games. If it was a dumbed down version of csgo then that would be Counterblox. And no, you can't say csgo is more difficult in general because both games depend on different play styles.
Idk but for me csgo spraying is hella easier. But maybe thats becouse i was growing up on it. Still valorant is more clean for me, like it more overall now
as a radiant player, global elite, lv10 faceit, i admit val spray isnt as csgo but u need to a lot of spray training, then youre gonna dominate in every game,
a lot of ppl are gonna hate me for this but most valorant players (except the pros) cant even spray its like they're too dumb to learn about it in immo lobbies you can still see players burst firing when their enemy is literally 10-15 meters away and watching them die is just plain a*s stup*d XD
Why do people keep saying spray is random when there is a very clear pattern just like in CS? Each shot lands in a slightly different spot, but it's still very predictable if you know the spray pattern. The shot inaccuracy rewards spray with control at close to mid ranges, and punishes you at long ranges. Imo that is perfectly reasonable. It's not Call of Duty. You shouldn't be spraying your gun across the map.
Ikr, they do even compare it to cs 1.6 and then saying valo is the same while it's completely not, cs 1.6 is much more way random, they have like atleast 4-5 recoil patterns for a single gun. I think what they're trying to say is "4 bullets and it goes random" not the pattern
After spraying like 9 bullets in val the rest of the bullets dont really have a pattern. They do stay at the same height but whether the bullet goes left or right is completely random so people say val spray is random.
@@yulechoi if that's the case then it's not "completely random" pattern, basically they're just the same, betwen T or 7 pattern, so it's not the same like cs 1.6 had, which a single rifle could totally has atleast 3-4 different patterns, it could be \ like this, or 7, or even T,etc.
Valorant is foking easy tbh when u play for first time as compared to CS go....... I saw many players saying I am from valo and saying fok m leaving on first day 🤣🤣🤣 CS go players be proud in one of the toughest games
Nah you can barely see the bullets in csgo. Its just wierd. The way the hands and gun moves when you shoot looks old and weird. It doesnt look good in a way.
If abilities in Valorant were more Utilitity based and not just freebies then gunplay would be more important or at most skillbased. There would be more skill involved, imo. But because of char like Raze/KillJoy/Chamber etc, they have to make guns more accurate than they should because those characters are literally counter intuitive to the genre. That's why when I first started playing CSGO then Valorant, I immediately appreciated CSGO more, simply because of the players effort & skill required to be consistent. It was just pure skill with accuracy and precision plus reaction timing. I was never good at these games but enjoyed watching them. However, in Valorant, it's really more of just the game carrying you. The only effort I've seen and experienced is the effort placed into just sitting in one of 11 different corners of highly congested/claustrophobic maps. Everyone slow walking through uninteresting hallways. Zero skill and overall just boring to play, nevermind watch.
In my opinion, csgo and valorant spray have pattern, it only easier at csgo because of us playing csgo for a long time while valorant is hard because it still new to us. In my case it because of the other way the starting bullets go
Remember valorant is not pure shooting, there are also utilities usage for every agent and if the spray gun is just like csgo, i think it will gonna be difficult to play because valorant needs more speed movement than csgo... (just my opinion, correct me if i'm wrong)
@@christiansmemefactory1513 never played it but if its anything like valorant then yes. Anything that doesnt reward you for putting time into learning the mechanics is dog shit. These games only semi-reward you. Why should you ever lose to a lower skilled player in some gun fights just because your bullets didnt go where you intended even when you did everything right? While the low skilled player just run and guns and instantly headshots you? Dont be delusional, i dont care how many skins you bought or how hard you want to cope. Ive bought skins to and spent money but The games gunplay is fucking horrible and the game will die if it decides to keep it. Fortnite had tons of success for 2-3 years also. Nothings invincible. When a better game comes out, everyone will be gone along with it. Only winning because the current game market is stale.
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin CSGO has the most dumbed down recoil system of all CS games. CSS and 1.6 rewarded you for learning the feel of the weapon and how to respond to the kick. The weapon didn't kick the same way every time, but you had the necessary weapon feedback to adjust your spray. The massive irony is both 1.6 and CSS have more spraydowns and spray transfers than CSGO, despite not having 1 consistent recoil pattern. Spraying in CSGO has more rng ie bullet spread. Spray transfers continue to be a rarity in CSGO even at the high level, especially compared to it's predecessors. CSGO kids thinking "cs is when you do the same mouse movement over and over again and spray at every range" is hilarious. I don't play Valorant. The little experience I have with it shows the weapon feedback is bad to adjust your spray. But CSGO kids would complain even if they had proper weapon feedback, the same way they complain they can't spray when the play 1.6, because CS nowadays is spray spray spray, which quite frankly is a joke. Valorant is a joke, but CSGO as a CS game is a joke as well. The only thing Valorant needs to do is have proper weapon feedback. If they fixed that, shooting in Valorant would feel more like a Counter-Strike game than CSGO.
@@christiansmemefactory1513 sure then, i didnt play so i didnt know. But thats not really rng is it? Thats something more like real life. Adjusting on the fly. Valorant as you know doesnt have that and its just pure RNG. They list out their guns RNG percentage when you hover over the guns. Like you said, the games a complete joke. The fact its a esport is funny to me. You have teams losing rounds and games because their guns didnt want to work for them. A game of luck is a gamble and i dont like gambling.
@@deez7829its more about what to do if your entring site not knowing if an angle has a enemy you single tap or pre fire if theres a smoke or something blocking the way you spray which happens all the time so basically its k just spray and pray
In cs you dont allign the tracers with your enemy, you actually learn the spray and focus on crosshair more than anything. U can even play with tracers off, and still hit spray transfers without any problem.
People don't understand Valorant spray is not as impactful as CSGO because Valorant is a mix of Abilities and Guns where as CSGO is purely a gunfight game. Therefore sprays being hard in Valo is justified because you can dash, tp, blind before / after the duel where as in CSGO you have to commit. This explains why gun control is better in CSGO as gun mechanism is important for a fair play but in Valo you got a lot of options and to balance the ability advantage, guns have to fall short after 2-3 seconds.
CSGO players being bitter in the comments cuz their game is dead asf Edit: You can tell how idiotic CSGO fandom by reading in this comment section XD. Imagine crying over in a troll comment
Bruh, if you cannot aim in cs you are trash in val also. Trust me. Skills in valorant are more effective than ultilities in cs but they're also on limited amount just like nades. Which means you still need to click head tho. If you cant then there's iron rank xD
@@Tanukii94 i dunno how about you, i onetap in val more consitently and much more often than in cs... I wonder whats the reason, because im pretty sure its not because "valorant better"
As someone who is good at games, CS is better, with better maps for competitive, more mechanics and a higher skill ceiling. Got immortal on val in a month and deleted the game. Val is just CS:GO for casuals
@@axelstad4662 Completely preference, but with CS:GO being from 2013 and having a higher player base it seems the preference is in CS:GO's favor. Most of the abilities are flashes, smokes and mollys which CS has, they just take more skill to use, making the game have a higher skill ceiling. CS also has better gunplay for a comp fps game.
@@notkwcly1368 okay, I'd say competitively CS:GO is better, but for fun (as games were created for) Valorant is a better game, Valorant is a better game, CS:GO is a better "Sport"
Im just hoping we can spray crouch in valorant :) FIX run and gun riot, im done with player running around 1 kilometers from me and and kills me with a phantom
idk what people see in the comments but valo spray is like straight up ez mode it just goes up and left and not even fast its like the m4a1-s in csgo literally no recoil at all
Phantom vs M4A1 in next video? 😏😏😏
@@leo.z 🤓
@@leo.z 🤓
@@leo.z there is lmao
@@leo.z There is
@@leo.z S it's from supressor smartass, remove the supressor and u will have a m4a1 xD
Valorant doesn't reward spraying at all. The rifles in this game are designed to make sure that you shoot enemies in a 2-3 bullet burst, that is if you kill them. When the 4th bullet comes, all the bullets that will come right after are all going to spray randomly.
it takes 4 vandal shots to the body to kill? the first 9-10 bullets with the vandal is just a downward pull. long range valorant is easier because u dont need to counterstrafe for accurate taps short range valorant is easier because spray is shorter and easier to be accurate.
@@leo.z you shouldnt use more than 3 if you have good aim
Yeah I’ve found that out, I think the reason is because most of the weapons do more damage so it’s meant to reward aim/crosshair placement instead. Half of the rifles and even a few pistols will kill in 1 or 2 headshots, and to balance this they made the recoil more uncontrollable
@@Wspre_ Thats because Val's healthbar only goes up to 150 and helmet doesn't exist.
@@ssorinn yeah, but they were still designed that way lol it doesn’t matter about the healthbar
Valorant's vandal spray is designed to be more random because you are expected to do more controlled bursts to reward peeking and crosshair placement. CSGO is more oriented to reward open gun duels rather than utility usage. The difference is simple
Edit: congratulations to everyone who missed the point in the replies
There are some theories it’s also RNG due to engagement optimized matchmaking. There’s a thought that the pattern and latency advantage is more in your favor if you’re intended to win the match.
@@JustSujC this honestly scares me. I feel like there should be laws against this. It's almost like gambling for kids addicted to video games.
@@Woodwender455 there are spray patterns lol
@@Woodwender455 it’s certainly unethical but not illegal. People just need to be aware of it and speak up against it.
valorant has basically the cs 1.6 gun mechanics...
Yet i rather disagree about cs's utility, it is as important as gunfights and has more depth in creativity than valorant.
Even today people still find new lineups for flashes, mollys and smokes on the good'ol dust2
Didn't realize how slow the vandal is when tapping compared to the ak. that's nuts
nah, its the exact same. He just shot in bursts of 3 in CS and 4 in Val
@@terrancemarron4832 it's not the same.
Ak-47 in CS:GO has 10 bullets per second
Vandal has 9.75 bullets per second
The vandal in Valorant is actually a different model of the AK that is usually used by modern and heavy equipped military. It's called the AK 103
@OnlyFatSnapz *"actually"* 😎
he wasn’t tapping, he was bursting. instead of tapping the mouse per bullet, he held for 3 bullets. if he tapped it would be the same. valorant may have random spray patterns, but it’s actually more tactical given you need to tap shots and hit heads rather than the spray meta of cs
CSGO spray is easier for me because of muscle memory but it's not necessarily better. I'm having a hard time with engagements in Valorant because I shift spray or crouch spray too much. Currently MGE in CS and Gold 3 in Valorant.
I had the same problem, do some dm's and unbind crouch
rebind it when you get back into a comp match of course
Nova in cs dia in valo xd
That isn't a very good tactic to use on CSGO either. It was good, but since Valve nerfed, it is much more situational now.
Valorant spray is random
yo I was global when I played mm and now 2200 elo on faceit and gold 3 in valo hahahah still working out how it works tho but it's very true what you portrayed, sometimes i tend to do a lot of sprays that really doesnt work on valorant. Is really tap and burst only
I found Vandal recoil is somewhat random after 5 shoots . it is more rewarding for those who good at tapping and bursting but not for someone who love to hold mouse1
use phantom instead if you prefer to spray
Spectre will be in your best interest.
You can even r&g with that
@@Ryunis_ that's the problem , rng in recoil is dumb
@@s0meRand0m129 yea... It's annoying... Everytime I get players who r&g, the back of my mind yells "FKIN' Go play CS:GO".
@@s0meRand0m129 even dumber when it even affects your taps, YOUR ONETAPS ARE LITERALLY RNG
I feel like it would be hard to make spraying viable in valorant because the pattern is so easy it would be tough for devs to walk the line of balanced and OP
You mistake spacing with difficulty. Both of these movements are so slow that the spacing just doesn't matter you're getting used to 1 movement or the other, the reason why sprays are harder or easier with different guns is far more reliant on the horizontal movements and in that case val sprays are actually just harder. Was LEM btw
@@TheInfectous ok but they dont have actual sprays that arent random to actually learn past like 5 bullets lmfao
Valorant is garbage just say it
When people say "I'm not consistent in my game" it's usually beacuse of the gun's rng spay patterns
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i like how i pay attention to the bang bang ak47 and the pew pew vandal instead of the recoil pattern
Spray in CSGO is better and its easier to control and has a pattern. Valorant on the other hand is just random ig
It’s more random due to the left and right but still pretty controllable
its very controllable on the first 8 shots, but after 8 shots uhhh not so much
Val easier version of cs and nothing else.
@@Warrior-b7d Lmao people like you again xD
@@Blueisoji The spread is more random. It has a pattern but since it has a random spread, it doesn't make spraying appealing enough. That''s why no one sprays with a Vandal.
valorant spray = ez 4 casu / csgo spray = hard to master BUT WOW SOOO mutch better, bcs he got P A T T E R N !!!
True.....that what i saw while reading the comments
I long quitted csgo and I didn't play it that much. I have like 96 hours of playtime. The hardest part in csgo for me is movement while the spray is pretty easy once you remember the pattern. In valorant, it's pretty hard to shoot. The first few bullets like 3-6 shots, it's kinda accurate and the bullets after that is kinda random.
@@4ll_Pretty_0_Ability "the hardest part in csgo for me is movement", learn how to counter strafe my dude, if you know how to counter strafe + good aim + know how to spraying with the Ak, then it's no big deal
For me, the CSGO spray pattern is more easier, I don’t know why but I can’t spray with a Vandal or Phantom on Valorant. The vandal spray is comparable to the galil in csgo
Cause in val the sway is random
Val spray is the easiest it's just like cod where as csgo sprays r lot hard to master.
@@Warrior-b7d like cod ??? 😂
valo devpdo that on porpse they want to everyone play burst
@@Warrior-b7d i play val cod cs, and i can say you're bs.
Just a potential note
CSGO FOV on 16x9 is 90, while Valorant is locked at 103 no matter the resolution. The CSGO spray might look harder/taller because there isn't as much horizontal:vertical room on the screen
Around 6 bullets on ak47 itspretty much controlled but after 3 bullets on vandal it goes kinda random
Yeah I think it’s to try to reward aim over recoil control because in in valorant most guns 1 or 2 tap headshots
@@Wspre_ yeah people don't understand, valorant is more trying to teach us how to one tap enemies or you suck.
@@OrRainoValorant has huge hit boxes, making it easy to headshot. It is not teaching anything. It is designed to be easier.
@@OrRaino maybe i suck lol
@@Pradyumna-e8r doesn't that encourage to do more headshot than bodyshots? Is it bad that it is meant to be easier?
That controlled spray on ak-47 long distance looks 💀💀💀
I think things like random recoil patterns and first shot inaccuracy are inherently anti-competitive. I get Val is more tapping than spraying, but you could solve that by making the recoil pattern very hard to learn. Combined with slower movement speed, Val feels very slow and precise. Which is better for some, but CS will always *_feel_* better than Val.
Literally both games have first shot inaccuracies
@@daxie__3210 ik
It's a very specific way of keeping lower skilled players interested in the game, some days your spray will hit everyone, someday it won't, it does take away competitiveness but for the vast majority that doesn't matter because they will never play competitively/professionally
I thought it was funny that you basically wrote it's personal preference then said fuck it, cs go better lmao.
@@silvermeta2421 cs will truly always feel way better. But valorant has many nice features that cs doesn't such as buy menu selling
i feel like when you move slightly while shooting in csgo, the bullet still fly only little bit off the center of your crosshair, but in valorant, if you "Slightly" move even a little bit, the bullet just fly waaaaaay out of your crosshair
odd i have the opposite experience
Lol i think you had it backwards
the other way around
He's right, Valo movement impacts shot accuracy much much more, not sure why you guys are talking outta your asses haha doesn't mean either game is worse
@@MoXy33 run n gun way worse in val
hat still doesn't change the fact that there are 49million kangaroos in Australia and 3.5million people in Uruguay which means if the kangaroos were to invade Uruguay each person will have to fight 14 kangaroos
the prime vandal skin is more accurate than the default one...
Imagine believing this
@@gliterott imagine not
@@gliterott literally imagine believing this
feels more accurate, it is not more accurate than the default
@@bigboytimm literally imagine not believing this
hard to get used to bursting when i could just spray in csgo cuz theres actually a fuckin fixed spray pattern
Valorant is a child of csgo, just to extract silvers and to make them play against each other, so they can enjoy the game and have discussion about the smoke lineup they did, when all they had to do is pull out a device and mark area to throw smoke.
You're acting like smoke lineups is hard to do
Do you have issues?
cs is easy
@@Stamtos it is hard to learn for each map and remember every smoke line up.
@@Stamtos some smoke requires walk/run+jump timings
I feel like they are very similar but the spray in csgo is much more open and valorant has a more tap shots
Vandal is better vertically but the horizontal spread is horrible, AK spray is fairly standard with both horizontal and vertical inaccuracy being easily to control assuming enough practice. That being said vandal is far superior in quick bursts firing off 3 to 5 shots as the vertical recoil is so easy to control on the initial shot.
As for those who want to spray just use phantom a lot tighter and easier to use than both imo
this guy really made up his own recoil pattern for the vandal lmao, after the 4th bullet it just goes random fyi
My highest in csgo is dmg and Diamond in Valorant. One thing I must say is that csgo felt a lot more competitive than playing valorant. The reason for that is why add randomness and one shot ability to a competitive game?
to focus more on tapping, its intended to punish you for spraying to push you twords trying to hit the first head shot
Because the games made for casuals very clearly, Once it dies like fortnite did (also made for casuals) maybe they will fix it and actually make the game competitive and non-rng. Then it will be a real CS-GO rival.
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin Fortnite didn't die bro, it's still in the hundreds of millions monthly players lol
@@justa9560 it’s dead
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin Proof? Cause you don't play it anymore?
The only difference between these games - the AK-47 has a very strong recoil (the scope twitches almost on half of the screen), and Vandal has a random spread after 4-5 bullets, but very little recoil.
In Valo you just need to run from side to side with the Vandal, then easy headshots
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counter strafing would be a better term to use
@@Mel-jl1bs There is no counter strafing in valorant, its useless!
@@mr_kesal uh what LMAO
bro i knew ur spray control wasnt good when i saw the close range control attempt and i started laughing when u did the long range one im sorry lmaoo
Csgo PROs
- Better sprays
- better knives
- better community (no surrender culture)
- better guns
- better movement mechanics
- can trade
Csgo CONs
- dogshit anti cheat
- mm takes 4 billion years to find a match
- All new maps are absolute and utterly dogshit
-skins cost an arm and a leg
Valorant PROs
-Variety of skins
-Skins are cheaper
-new agents keep the game fresh
-new maps aren't always dogshit
-better anti cheat
-God speed mm
-more variety in movement mechanics
Valorant CONs
-MASSIVELY DOGSHIT spray (rng)
-too low of a skill ceiling (debatable) a little higher would make it more fun to learn the game.
-surrender culture
-Fracture
-too many glitches and bugs.
Nah val does not have a lower skill ceiling
Also rng spray makes u have to tap and actually aim instead of spraying
@@xoan7278 yeah it does lol
@@AugurStratus y
@@xoan7278 You can see many streamers and pros who have played a ton of both games and even they say csgo is harder. Flashes can curve around and shit which makes peeking easier than bounces flashes. Moving while shooting is more friendly in valorant than csgo.
when you have no skins on csgo makes me scared but has on val
ok long "spray control" with the ak that is not controlled in the tinniest bit 😅😂 just kidding good vid ;)
Ahahah, sorry, my spray is not best 😂🙂
if you played cs a lot valorant is so easy, especially if you have a stack. i swear that until you get to like immortal, everyone is aiming with their toes and doesn't use their ears
cs: patterns to master for insane spray transfer clips and rewards commiting and spraying if u have practiced.
val: shoot few shots hope u got head brr
Valorant is the mobile equivalent to cs
How is ur uncontrolled like that and mine be fuck up HAHAHAHHA
bussin vandal skin tho
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lol look at that controlled long range, but still uncontrolled
Spray in valorant? No way
Why everybody saying that if vandal has random recoil paterns just like in cs 1.6? What does that mean? It's pretty the same like ak-47 in csgo to me
Cs 1.6 is much more way random and harder than vandal in valorant, they literally have like 27 patterns for a single rifle like m4a1 and ak
The spray pattern is better in csgo, and it's a whole lot easier to tap heads my shots register a lot more, considering since I'm a casual player. The servers don't feel like a laggy/inconsistent mess, the movement is a lot faster too. If only riot were to make the gunplay and servers feel just as fluid as csgo I would go back to the game in a heartbeat.
u said csgo servers are good and they register shots? The case is actually opposite.
@@kardiacc 128 tick csgo servers feel really good
@@chikencs2 yeah but he said he is a casual csgo gamer
@@chikencs2 csgo runs at a consistent 64 server tick rate, valorant runs on an inconsistent 128 tick.
@@kardiacc not from my experience.. now unless if ur talking about faceit csgo then yes I agree the servers are absolutely, other than that I surprisingly almost never encounter any cheaters in normal mm csgo, I ended up killing wallers most of the time anyway.
the spray in valorant is so random makes it difficult for me to get used to because i play both csgo and valorant
valorant spray becomes random after like 8-10th bullet and cs stays. But the cs also has a con. There's RNG, even at the first bullet you might not hit your target if he's really far away.
Valorant has the same rng on the first shot. The vandals being .25. So valorant has the same mechanic while also just being worse
@@ficedulamortis6434 didn't know that, thanks for the information
I ALWAYS hit all my taps in cs go with AK in long distance. go in the range on valorant and shoot 30m on the target bot who gives you the damage. 1 out 4 bullets miss
@@Rodinho37 you don't ALWAYS hit all your taps in cs go. There's literally an rng system that prevents you from doing it. Open weapon debug with crosshairstyle 2 and you'll see it that even if you crouch, and double scope with awp you still have a tiny bit of chance to miss your target
@@ficedulamortis6434 depends on the gun, for something like a phantom its a little lower, while with the guardian its 100% accuracy if you are ads
i dont understand why the uncontrolled spray type is like a T (or umbrella-like shape)
To those saying valorant spray is easier. It's not. Starting on valorant comapred to csgo spraying wise it is easier imo but once you learn the spray in cs it is easy. But with valorant it's so inconsistent I find myself whiffing hard sometimes because of the spray compared to cs. (I'm immortal btw).
but theres no skill in spraying in val u just pull down im im 2 and csgo faciet 8
@@crayoneater1717 exactly there is no skil it's easy but also rng which I hate
@@XerreL_OCE ya ive actually left game cuz i got run n gun 3 rounds in a row
like insta hs full sprint
@@crayoneater1717 yeah that's Val. I have such a love hate relationship with it.
@@crayoneater1717 STG. I've had so many games where round after round i get run and gun'd with a vandal. Its frustrating. Sometimes you can punish it but most of the time i just get one tapped while they are doing it. Where as in CS if someone is run and gunning its easy to punish people. Out of all my problems with val that is the biggest complaint I have. It has no place in a game like Val or CS.
Yoo you show off the vandal skin
no one's talking about how valorant just flipped the recoil lol
no???
csgo has a pattern to it, valorant made it random so we dont just see people standing in the open dueling each other from distance without utility
@@Piohh sort of?
While the shooting in Valorant is more random, there is still a clear reoccurring recoil pattern in the spray.
@@tescomealdeal5234 yeah, CS also have a randomized pattern actually but its very miniscule in comparable to Valorant, but they do follow the similiar pattern as the center of the randomized shot
@@Piohh its not random what are you taling about. spray it 5 times it looks like a 7 every time. I can tell you arent very good lmao
@@bryanfortino completely wrong, play the game and actually test it
it seems identical but idk why when I play valorant compared to csgo the recoil feels so different.
Spray in valorant is trash asf
same in csgo 😁
@@thechrom007 no
Yes. At least CSGO has a pattern.
valorant more ez spray than csgo
valorant half gun have scope make more ez
@@LempuyunganAsalPekanbaru what are u sayin, scopes are trash
I saw someone say that he has a bad habit pf crouch spraying, and I can tell you, a habit of crouch spraying is bad on both games. It makes you a bigger target and it slows you down. But Upon practicing my csgo sprays, I learned to rarely crouch spray. Relying on the results ive got from weeks of spray practice. Crouch spraying to me now is very sutuational. Either wide swing-ing an awper or transferring the spray. This new habit of not crouch spraying made me more relaxed, and more relied on my crosshair placement and definitely helped a lot in valorant where spraying doesn't reward you much as much as in cs.
I am at DMG, and currently solo grinding my val account from silver, and currently plat 1.(coz i rarely play val 😂)
+ if u really have a pretty low sens like me, you would rather focus on crosshair placement first than actual spraying.
CSGO sens: 0.50 | 800 Dpi | 400 eDpi
Valo sens: 0.16 | 800 Dpi | 128 eDpi
You will destroy your aim if you keep having different edpi for each game
@@alizaka1467 nope, valorant has a different edpi calculation than cs. Valorant counts lower edpi. I just did what feels the same as my sens at cs
Wtf 400 edpi, bro arm damage 😂
@@sev6353 for me even in 600edpi playing close range combats become very tough. So i am using currently 800 dpi with 1.10 in game sens.
not me making rainbows around the enemies when i spray D:
Also its bursting not tapping and include counter strafing and without counter strafing in both games so different
You’re not supposed to spray in valorant especially with vandal
dude thank you, people comparing things like the spray pattern (not the uploader) always just bring up that it being random takes away from the completive aspect but in csgo spraying is a skill but in valorant spraying is a way to get killed fast, tapping is so important in valorant but people gloss over the fact that they are two different games
@@pvthon hard agree everyone in the comments are comparing apples to oranges, CSGO is about spray control while in valorant your not meant to spray since it's easier to kill with almost any gun it's all about precise aim
So no body will talk about how valorant look like csgo but in 2099 mode ? Its like space weapons
Idk man, i feel like i get killed in valorant more than CS due to the run and gun spray with either a vandal or phantom. I wish they would make the run and gun more inconsistent and maybe touch up on the spray patterns a bit as well. It's rough to headshot someone when they just run up at me and spray but thats just imo
Sounds like u need to get better if you die to run and gun lmao its balaneced as it is now tbh
p90, mac10 and mp7:
@@MingLee101 When he refers to run and gun hes referring to people not even bothering to counter strafe when you're equipped with a rifle such as the vandal or phantom because they know that the enemy wont punish them for it
skill issue
for me its simple - one tap is always better in both games
literally lol
Valo guns just makes you wanna spray... Whenever i hop on cs i am way more discipline with my guns
Probably because the armor punch is way over the top. You might as well be stunned in Valorant if a bullet evens gets near you. It's not like you can even try to reposition.
@@james3003 true ... I guess this might be the issue
Yeah the prime really looks good 🌝
Valorant is just CSGO dumbed down to make it easier for kids.
How is it dumbed down
Average cs:go player pretending to be mature since he plays cs:go
You can't say otherwise since these are two different games. If it was a dumbed down version of csgo then that would be Counterblox. And no, you can't say csgo is more difficult in general because both games depend on different play styles.
@@buia499 it’s true valorant is 10 x easier.
@@buia499 and 90 percent of valo players are teens lol so he got a point.
It definitely does not seem to me that they stole the main essence from CSGO
Idk but for me csgo spraying is hella easier. But maybe thats becouse i was growing up on it. Still valorant is more clean for me, like it more overall now
it’s easy because you have thosands of hrs and lots of experience. Mastering spray in csgo takes years of practice
why im seeing only cs go when name of video is "Valorant vs CS:GO spray (Vandal & AK-47)"???
what. are you saying theres valorant right there
as a radiant player, global elite, lv10 faceit, i admit val spray isnt as csgo but u need to a lot of spray training, then youre gonna dominate in every game,
a lot of ppl are gonna hate me for this but most valorant players (except the pros) cant even spray its like they're too dumb to learn about it in immo lobbies you can still see players burst firing when their enemy is literally 10-15 meters away and watching them die is just plain a*s stup*d XD
Why do people keep saying spray is random when there is a very clear pattern just like in CS? Each shot lands in a slightly different spot, but it's still very predictable if you know the spray pattern. The shot inaccuracy rewards spray with control at close to mid ranges, and punishes you at long ranges. Imo that is perfectly reasonable. It's not Call of Duty. You shouldn't be spraying your gun across the map.
Ikr, they do even compare it to cs 1.6 and then saying valo is the same while it's completely not, cs 1.6 is much more way random, they have like atleast 4-5 recoil patterns for a single gun.
I think what they're trying to say is "4 bullets and it goes random" not the pattern
After spraying like 9 bullets in val the rest of the bullets dont really have a pattern. They do stay at the same height but whether the bullet goes left or right is completely random so people say val spray is random.
@@yulechoi if that's the case then it's not "completely random" pattern, basically they're just the same, betwen T or 7 pattern, so it's not the same like cs 1.6 had, which a single rifle could totally has atleast 3-4 different patterns, it could be \ like this, or 7, or even T,etc.
@@thedude9534 it’s random lol shut up
Csgo actually has a pattern for u to control it valorant doesn’t
yes
Awp vs Operator pls, no problem with awp but when using op its so awkward
oh dear, i seem to have spotted a comment war. good day!
Yeah...i saw a 2 same comment say "vandal's spray trash af" (in different word arrange)
ОН ВЕРНУЛСЯ!!!!!!
Valorant is foking easy tbh when u play for first time as compared to CS go....... I saw many players saying I am from valo and saying fok m leaving on first day 🤣🤣🤣 CS go players be proud in one of the toughest games
basically all they did was ported over counter strike and changed the recoil a little bit.
Valorant with skin is not valid = no recoil XD
this is true
Why is he making a 4 bullet burst in vandal while the ak is 3 bullet burst not even the same 🙄
I dont play csgo, I play val but csgo is better
based.
Nah you can barely see the bullets in csgo. Its just wierd. The way the hands and gun moves when you shoot looks old and weird. It doesnt look good in a way.
@@crimsonvirgo doesnt need to look good if it feels good
would be cool if the vandal were called ak-48
If abilities in Valorant were more Utilitity based and not just freebies then gunplay would be more important or at most skillbased. There would be more skill involved, imo.
But because of char like Raze/KillJoy/Chamber etc, they have to make guns more accurate than they should because those characters are literally counter intuitive to the genre.
That's why when I first started playing CSGO then Valorant, I immediately appreciated CSGO more, simply because of the players effort & skill required to be consistent. It was just pure skill with accuracy and precision plus reaction timing. I was never good at these games but enjoyed watching them.
However, in Valorant, it's really more of just the game carrying you. The only effort I've seen and experienced is the effort placed into just sitting in one of 11 different corners of highly congested/claustrophobic maps. Everyone slow walking through uninteresting hallways.
Zero skill and overall just boring to play, nevermind watch.
Let's say it, none of us asked for it and still clicked it
In my opinion, csgo and valorant spray have pattern, it only easier at csgo because of us playing csgo for a long time while valorant is hard because it still new to us. In my case it because of the other way the starting bullets go
The spray in valorant is random after 9 bullets you never know if its gonna go to the right or left that's why its easier to master the cs spray
@@NoName-O1OOO11O you can’t in Val it’s random.
Its been 10 years since you last made a video about terraria
feels like the vandal is more easier to control
nah it's way harder in valorant.
@@wowulam7411 no lmao
Its dogshit compared to ak
@@wowulam7411 it’s not harder your not even meant to spray in Val it’s random.
@@wowulam7411 just tap and burst in Val
can u try have no vandal skin? There is really a big difference between the two.
as you can see one spray is fun, rewarding and easy to remember and the other is some bullshit
valorant spray is trash
Remember valorant is not pure shooting, there are also utilities usage for every agent and if the spray gun is just like csgo, i think it will gonna be difficult to play because valorant needs more speed movement than csgo... (just my opinion, correct me if i'm wrong)
Nah RNG is bad for any games with guns period
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin so CS 1.6 is bad because it didn't have 1 consistent spray pattern?
@@christiansmemefactory1513 never played it but if its anything like valorant then yes. Anything that doesnt reward you for putting time into learning the mechanics is dog shit. These games only semi-reward you. Why should you ever lose to a lower skilled player in some gun fights just because your bullets didnt go where you intended even when you did everything right? While the low skilled player just run and guns and instantly headshots you? Dont be delusional, i dont care how many skins you bought or how hard you want to cope. Ive bought skins to and spent money but The games gunplay is fucking horrible and the game will die if it decides to keep it. Fortnite had tons of success for 2-3 years also. Nothings invincible. When a better game comes out, everyone will be gone along with it. Only winning because the current game market is stale.
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin CSGO has the most dumbed down recoil system of all CS games. CSS and 1.6 rewarded you for learning the feel of the weapon and how to respond to the kick. The weapon didn't kick the same way every time, but you had the necessary weapon feedback to adjust your spray.
The massive irony is both 1.6 and CSS have more spraydowns and spray transfers than CSGO, despite not having 1 consistent recoil pattern. Spraying in CSGO has more rng ie bullet spread. Spray transfers continue to be a rarity in CSGO even at the high level, especially compared to it's predecessors.
CSGO kids thinking "cs is when you do the same mouse movement over and over again and spray at every range" is hilarious. I don't play Valorant. The little experience I have with it shows the weapon feedback is bad to adjust your spray. But CSGO kids would complain even if they had proper weapon feedback, the same way they complain they can't spray when the play 1.6, because CS nowadays is spray spray spray, which quite frankly is a joke. Valorant is a joke, but CSGO as a CS game is a joke as well.
The only thing Valorant needs to do is have proper weapon feedback. If they fixed that, shooting in Valorant would feel more like a Counter-Strike game than CSGO.
@@christiansmemefactory1513 sure then, i didnt play so i didnt know. But thats not really rng is it? Thats something more like real life. Adjusting on the fly. Valorant as you know doesnt have that and its just pure RNG. They list out their guns RNG percentage when you hover over the guns. Like you said, the games a complete joke. The fact its a esport is funny to me. You have teams losing rounds and games because their guns didnt want to work for them. A game of luck is a gamble and i dont like gambling.
Valorant: Tenz counterpart spray
CSGO: s1mple 1 tap with 1x pixel
valorant pro play isnt just gun fights it's strategic ability play to counter the enimies own abilities
@@Gunt0_0 Yes I agree, but I was talking about the accuracy and the spray pattern is way different than CSGO
@@deez7829its more about what to do if your entring site not knowing if an angle has a enemy you single tap or pre fire if theres a smoke or something blocking the way you spray which happens all the time so basically its k
just spray and pray
i prefer the valorant spray because the bullet tracers are brighter and easier to see so its easier to allign with the target unlike csgo
in csgo guns are meant to be mastered, in valorant they're meant to be beginner friendly
In cs you dont allign the tracers with your enemy, you actually learn the spray and focus on crosshair more than anything. U can even play with tracers off, and still hit spray transfers without any problem.
@@El1as-- not really bruh, idk what you do. but nah. pretty sure anyone below face it 7 do use tracerss every now and then
Negev has tracers
All mad csgo players in comments lmfao
i can smell somethings burning, i wonder what it might be...
bruh this is ak vs prime vendal. you need to show individual vendal skin spray in valo.. .:(
heres a proof why vandal spray needs to be fixed
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@smartiesbest reject modernity, return back to cs 1.6 mechanics you say?
I dont see anything wrong with it wdym
@Knot Robin because you're supposed to get one taps, you buy the phantom for spraying and the vandal is supposed to be a head shot machine
People don't understand Valorant spray is not as impactful as CSGO because Valorant is a mix of Abilities and Guns where as CSGO is purely a gunfight game.
Therefore sprays being hard in Valo is justified because you can dash, tp, blind before / after the duel where as in CSGO you have to commit.
This explains why gun control is better in CSGO as gun mechanism is important for a fair play but in Valo you got a lot of options and to balance the ability advantage, guns have to fall short after 2-3 seconds.
Lol in my opinion vandal gun sound effect sounds like it's a lazer
that's a skin
it's because of the skin, her normal sound is like a real weapon
CSGO players being bitter in the comments cuz their game is dead asf
Edit: You can tell how idiotic CSGO fandom by reading in this comment section XD. Imagine crying over in a troll comment
Lmao, you talking mad shit if you think cs is dead. Funniest thing I have heard today. Thanks for making me laugh tho.
Valorant players when they realise CS has more players:
CSGO: bad, old, dead, bad skins
Valorant: good, the best, more players, good skins
@@skylo5777 you're tripping the fuck out u prolly haven't seen sunlight in weeks i feel bad
lol csgo is a 10 year old game and still has 600k+ consistent player base.
If in valorantcie was movement with csa recoil action awp deagle would be the best game
valorant spray trash
is it just me or something but i never burst in valorant just tap or spray
Val is literally shitty and easy clone of csgo which was made to impress childern who can't play csgo properly.
Bruh, if you cannot aim in cs you are trash in val also. Trust me. Skills in valorant are more effective than ultilities in cs but they're also on limited amount just like nades. Which means you still need to click head tho. If you cant then there's iron rank xD
@@Tanukii94 val is just easier version of csgo and nothing else. Only washed csgo pros play val because they can't compete in csgo anymore.
@@Warrior-b7d no doubt im barely winning in level 1 faceit in csgo lmfao
@@Warrior-b7d just like shroud?
@@Tanukii94 i dunno how about you, i onetap in val more consitently and much more often than in cs... I wonder whats the reason, because im pretty sure its not because "valorant better"
What we're going to take from here is the valorant player.
As a former CS player, valorant has better spray and gameplay
Hahahaha val is child's game and a shitty clone of csgo.
As someone who is good at games, CS is better, with better maps for competitive, more mechanics and a higher skill ceiling. Got immortal on val in a month and deleted the game. Val is just CS:GO for casuals
@@notkwcly1368 valorant is more fun to play with more possibilities with abilities
@@axelstad4662 Completely preference, but with CS:GO being from 2013 and having a higher player base it seems the preference is in CS:GO's favor. Most of the abilities are flashes, smokes and mollys which CS has, they just take more skill to use, making the game have a higher skill ceiling. CS also has better gunplay for a comp fps game.
@@notkwcly1368 okay, I'd say competitively CS:GO is better, but for fun (as games were created for) Valorant is a better game, Valorant is a better game, CS:GO is a better "Sport"
Im just hoping we can spray crouch in valorant :) FIX run and gun riot, im done with player running around 1 kilometers from me and and kills me with a phantom
Valorant spray > csgo :)
at least one correct comment 😂
worst take ive ever seen as a valorant and cs player that plays valorant more
watch your keyboard, csgo simps are coming 💀💀
of course not, csgo spray is very better than valorant spray
@@xdcriptic5771 as a former csgo player and a valorant player, I prefer Valorant spray :)
im barely seeing differences
idk what people see in the comments but valo spray is like straight up ez mode it just goes up and left and not even fast its like the m4a1-s in csgo literally no recoil at all
Tried this in real life...
Ended up shooting my toes