cmon guys why are you so lazy, you have reviewed a lot of rx 580 and none of them got the performance this card has, its clearly a rx580 2304 sp. I have also a rx580 2048 sp and there is a big difference. Please do some testing and compare it. Dont just eyeball it. You are professionals !!
you do know that there are versions of rx 580 2304sp now what they are talking about is getting ripped off when you can just get the rx 580 2304sp rather than the fake 590 which cost more
@@Akira14496 These cards only make sense being sold in Asia. Over here, the 590 GME is $1-5 more expensive than a regular USED 580 2304SP and it's brand new with a warranty. It's a little bit faster too. I love the Toastt Bros but this one did not hit the mark
So I looked up the actual model and the 590 GME is a real thing. This was a China exclusive GPU and it sits directly between a regular 590 and a 580 (closer to 580 tho), having same base clock as the 580 but slightly higher boost clock. Not sure how it is a scam when the GME was in the listing title. Edit: Alex Hus bought the same card and looked up the GPU hardware ID, it is the ID of the regular 580.
If you watched to the end they said this card doesn’t perform like the 590 GME…. Its slower, closer in performance to an rx570 8gb. Flashing the bios doesn’t give it more transistors and its not faster than the rx580 2048 that costs less…. So scammy.
I just got my MLLSE RX580 8GB today for a new customer build. Newegg has a special on them for $69.99 plus a $5 gift card. So not terrible even though they're slightly cut down.
I have the card, it has a RX 580 2304 (215-0910038) die, 590 GME should have (215-0910066) I made a video with evidence. ruclips.net/video/4GGq2AwF6E8/видео.html
I remember when that 590 GME was announced as a chinese only card, most tech review outlets were confused why they were basically just releasing another rx 580 in 2020. It's not really the brand that's scamming, it's AMD releasing this RX 590 GME and calling it a 590
No no MLLSE denying the truth I showed them the evidence, I have this card, Toastybros are kinda right but wrong about the 2048. It has a RX 580 2304 (215-0910038) die, 590 GME should have (215-0910066) I made a video with evidence.
@@AlexHusTech You seem to be the only commenter/reviewer bothering to crack these open and simply check the serial number printed on the chip. Why are all these other comments filled with people making assumptions based on GPU-Z ? Respect.
@@KomradeMikhail Yeah, it's quite easy to fake the software, some sellers are going to extreme & scratching off the serial number! Very shady sellers/warehouse sellers!
I don't think that's a 2048SP model tbh. Your GPU-Z footage says 2304, which is the correct amount for a "real" 580, 590 or 590 GME. The main silicon difference with the 590 from the 580 was the process shrink, and the GME simply undoes that. So, it's basically a 580 made a couple of years later. You're right, AMD could have called it the 590 GME a 580 and they could have called the 580 2048SP a 570, and been far less shady about it. That's AMD's fault, however, not MLLSE's. MLLSE, Aisurix etc. are possibly selling salvaged ex-mining cards as new, which is IMO far more egregious anyway!
As a tech channel, you should know that 2304 SP has RX580. So that GPU isn't actually RX590 but somehow re-branded and flashed RX580. And you also mentioned that GPU is most likely flashed RX580 2048SP. RX570 has 2048SP not RX580. So these Chinese RX580s are actually RX570s..
... or they are using the shorthand for converting Compute Units to Stream Processors when they mad the box and label. What they should have done was open up the card and check the die. All the info they were shown on the software could be correct. All the 590 GME was was a slightly tuned 580 for better mining than a vanilla 580. Still if that is the fact it doesn't look good for the seller, but this stuff happens with some of the rebuild motherboards as well, so I could see them seeing it as normal business. Now if these cards didn't get 36 CU, well then yes they are a scam. Seen no evidence other than possibly incorrect packaging who someone who buys from China a bunch, isn't abnormal.
It's not a scam, you should have done a proper research before condemning this card, RX 590 GME is notably slower than a proper RX 590 - about 10% slower, on paper. MLLSE makes decent and cheap gpu for budget gamers in China.
I have one of this companies videocards lying around. An RTX2060 super for something like 200 USD. I bought to see how these rechipped GPU's do... And I wasn't disappointed actually. It works as a normal RTX2060. And no issues at all. I also fitted a PC with a RX5700XT and the performance was pretty similar (as you would expect). I therefore dont think its fair to call these people scammers.
I have the card, it has a RX 580 2304 (215-0910038) die, 590 GME should have (215-0910066) I made a video with evidence. TB are right they are scamming, I showed MLLSE the evidence but they kept denying it.
I watched this entire vid and not a single head to head comparison vs a 570, 580, 580 2048 or gd forbid an actual true rx590. Very disappointing. Ive never thumbed down a toasty bros vid before but this was close.
I love this, not just because you pointed out a a scam, but because you said “draws the question.” The rest of RUclips would have said “begs the question” and not even realized how stupid that would be in context.
You keep calling this a scam several times throughout the video, and even pointing out the seller as being dodgy for that. This is simply unprofessional. If you've done a couple seconds of googling you'd find out that this is a legit card. You keep claiming that you're pretty sure this is an edited 580 2048SP, which is in reality an RX 570 (or 480), but then throughout the benchmarks you keep getting surprised about how it performs better than you expected for "what it is". In every single title it performed better than a stock RX 580, as it should (because it is pretty much a factory overclocked 580), meanwhile you keep preaching about how dodgy it is to rebrand an 2048SP as 590. Quote of the year must be "Even though it may not be ok with AMD". Adrenaline & GPU-Z both show very clearly that this is a legit version of the card. You can't fathom the fact that AMD (and Nvidia for that matter) re-release the same processing unit as several GPUs even though they've been doing this for literally years and ALL the indicators pointed to you being wrong. You're blaming the seller for selling you a genuine product, driving customers away from Chinese GPU sellers when they've finally started being clear about what they're selling. This just makes me question your reliability as a product reviewer, nothing more.
I call them Frankenstein RX580 GPU around $100 this type of GPU for someone currently who is building budget will solve a very big problem. The fact that new games are getting Vram hunger very soon 8GB GPU will not work if you wish to player the newer AAA games So you just spent around $300+ on GPU that has only 8GB Vram a GPU that soon will no longer hit minimum requirements aka 12GB vram. So RX580 8GB Frankenstein GPU for under 100 you save a lot of money and we all know 8GB GPU are soon going to have to upgrade but you can game for now Research on what it get parts to look at you tube review and remember when shopping on line bad review are not fake so read the bad review as they can a better guide the ***** reviews . Having save now self $150 to $200 this can be saved toward a upgrade GPU a 12GB or 16GB GPU or you can use the cash to upgrade the rest of you system and save up a bit longer
You were lucky to get a 580. This is not always the case. The buy bulk used/ defective GPU boards and slap the new BIOS regardless of what card it was. Someone else might have got a 6750, who knows.
I had my pc built already when I ordered it without gpu card, where do I find the cables that I plug it in to when I have placed it?! Are they just hanging somewhere or do I need to plug them out of somewhere then plug it into the gpu someone help please!
ou kept saying 2048 shading units, when your own CPU-Z results showed 2304 at 4:26. Where did you get the 2048 number from, stuck in your head from a RX 570? What you showed seemed to meet all the specs of a RX 590 GME which was a Chinese up tune of a western RX 580, with all the same base specs, process/architecture, transistor count, shading units, etc., but with a bit higher boost clock. The only thing you seemed to have to go on to say it was an actual RX 580 instead, even though your performance showed unexpected improvements on a 580, as you’d expect from a 580 with a higher boost clock that a 590 GME is, was the date on it. But, that could suggest just as well that AMD simply repurposed 580s with better yields as 590 GMEs themselves. I think you lose some credibility yourself by calling it a “scam card” when the evidence you yourself show suggests otherwise.
A bit harsh calling it a fake card, since they used AMD's own designations for the processor. TechPowerUp's listing for the 590GME says it is the Polaris 20XTR chip;the RX 580 is the Polaris 20 XTX; and only the RX 590 is Polaris 30. Seems less like a manufacturer's scam, than AMD trying to leverage a smaller chip for extra cash. The 580, 590, and 590 GME ALL list as 2304 shaders.
I have the card, it has a RX 580 2304 (215-0910038) die, 590 GME should have (215-0910066) I made a video with evidence, check again the "GPU variant" bit...
This is not a Radeon RX 580 2048SP, this card is a bios flashed Radeon RX 480. GPU-z reports the chip as an Ellesmere which is from the Artic Islands graphics cards. The reason why you flash bios to Radeon RX 580 GME is because you get the latest driver support. Remember that AMD set its driver support cut off at Radeon RX 4XX series cards. AKA Artic Island graphics cards.
@@buildyourcomputer I'm not sure I have a MLLSE 5500XT & it performs really well, I have other brands & their services have been good, only MLLSE keep denying it, so won't buy from them in future.
These companies have millions of these things and they aren’t selling great because not nvidia. So why not lie a little to get a competitive advantage? US authorities aren’t going to fly over to china and stop them. Already misleading these things as new products. But hey, at least they work. Id buy one for $89 if I didn’t already buy a used rx570 for $79 four years ago. Im actually glad these things are out stealing at least a few sales from gt 1030
@@AlexHusTech Alex, them toasty bros are trippin, this is clearle an rx580 2304sp and not a 580 2048sp, dont know why they didnt compare them. But they look really unprofessional slipping like that
Idk I kinda feel like it was an accident lol they prolly actually thought they were 590 gme's cuz I mean those cards are so close together and the price difference is non-existent so it's like y? I actually really feel like they were told or some how under the impression that they were
i bought one off newegg few months ago it was same brand as in video, claimed to be a rx580 and once installed drivers just fine and went into Gpuz and it was a RX570 so beaware lol (it was for my budget build just a low budget build but still! scammy) @toastybros
cmon guys why are you so lazy, you have reviewed a lot of rx 580 and none of them got the performance this card has, its clearly a rx580 2304 sp. I have also a rx580 2048 sp and there is a big difference. Please do some testing and compare it. Dont just eyeball it. You are professionals !!
:)
you do know that there are versions of rx 580 2304sp now what they are talking about is getting ripped off when you can just get the rx 580 2304sp rather than the fake 590 which cost more
@@Akira14496 These cards only make sense being sold in Asia. Over here, the 590 GME is $1-5 more expensive than a regular USED 580 2304SP and it's brand new with a warranty. It's a little bit faster too. I love the Toastt Bros but this one did not hit the mark
So I looked up the actual model and the 590 GME is a real thing. This was a China exclusive GPU and it sits directly between a regular 590 and a 580 (closer to 580 tho), having same base clock as the 580 but slightly higher boost clock. Not sure how it is a scam when the GME was in the listing title.
Edit: Alex Hus bought the same card and looked up the GPU hardware ID, it is the ID of the regular 580.
dam impressive research props to you
If you watched to the end they said this card doesn’t perform like the 590 GME…. Its slower, closer in performance to an rx570 8gb. Flashing the bios doesn’t give it more transistors and its not faster than the rx580 2048 that costs less…. So scammy.
@@evers6214 they did? I didn't watch the whole video. props to you as well 👏👏👏
Because AMD didn't sponsored 😂.but Intel did well that is why no ture gaming test video on channel about Intel arc a380😎
the rx590 is 12nm gf chip but the 590 gme is a 14m gf chip just wanted to add this too
I just got my MLLSE RX580 8GB today for a new customer build. Newegg has a special on them for $69.99 plus a $5 gift card. So not terrible even though they're slightly cut down.
Can you send me the link pls
Stop assuming what it is by only checking software.
Crack it open and look at the serial number on the chip itself... Problem Solved.
I have the card, it has a RX 580 2304 (215-0910038) die, 590 GME should have (215-0910066) I made a video with evidence.
ruclips.net/video/4GGq2AwF6E8/видео.html
@@AlexHusTech Nice! Will check out your video! 👍👍
AMD doesn't etch the serials number on the chip like nvidia
@@flightsimpro8979 Correct... AMD etch it on the metal rim surrounding the chip, instead of directly on the die like nvidia.
Honestly what do u expect from causal pc clowns
me with a gt 730 hearing him talk how trash it is. *cries inside* i know. . . .
590, 580, and 570 are all really great cards
even in 2023 they are still decent cards
I remember when that 590 GME was announced as a chinese only card, most tech review outlets were confused why they were basically just releasing another rx 580 in 2020. It's not really the brand that's scamming, it's AMD releasing this RX 590 GME and calling it a 590
The 590 was on 12nm, looks like the 590 GME was on 14nm like the 580.
@@thepezfeo yup yup, but AMD was still the one to label the product as a 590 gme
No no MLLSE denying the truth I showed them the evidence, I have this card, Toastybros are kinda right but wrong about the 2048.
It has a RX 580 2304 (215-0910038) die, 590 GME should have (215-0910066) I made a video with evidence.
@@AlexHusTech
You seem to be the only commenter/reviewer bothering to crack these open and simply check the serial number printed on the chip.
Why are all these other comments filled with people making assumptions based on GPU-Z ?
Respect.
@@KomradeMikhail Yeah, it's quite easy to fake the software, some sellers are going to extreme & scratching off the serial number! Very shady sellers/warehouse sellers!
I don't think that's a 2048SP model tbh. Your GPU-Z footage says 2304, which is the correct amount for a "real" 580, 590 or 590 GME. The main silicon difference with the 590 from the 580 was the process shrink, and the GME simply undoes that. So, it's basically a 580 made a couple of years later.
You're right, AMD could have called it the 590 GME a 580 and they could have called the 580 2048SP a 570, and been far less shady about it. That's AMD's fault, however, not MLLSE's. MLLSE, Aisurix etc. are possibly selling salvaged ex-mining cards as new, which is IMO far more egregious anyway!
It's basically a slightly lower clocked RX 590 but instead of being a Polaris 30, its Polaris 20 its fine.
As a tech channel, you should know that 2304 SP has RX580. So that GPU isn't actually RX590 but somehow re-branded and flashed RX580. And you also mentioned that GPU is most likely flashed RX580 2048SP. RX570 has 2048SP not RX580. So these Chinese RX580s are actually RX570s..
... or they are using the shorthand for converting Compute Units to Stream Processors when they mad the box and label. What they should have done was open up the card and check the die. All the info they were shown on the software could be correct. All the 590 GME was was a slightly tuned 580 for better mining than a vanilla 580.
Still if that is the fact it doesn't look good for the seller, but this stuff happens with some of the rebuild motherboards as well, so I could see them seeing it as normal business.
Now if these cards didn't get 36 CU, well then yes they are a scam. Seen no evidence other than possibly incorrect packaging who someone who buys from China a bunch, isn't abnormal.
It's not a scam, you should have done a proper research before condemning this card, RX 590 GME is notably slower than a proper RX 590 - about 10% slower, on paper. MLLSE makes decent and cheap gpu for budget gamers in China.
Nope, I've opened mine up, this is a RX580 2304 with a 590GME vbios.
I explain it in this video.
ruclips.net/video/4GGq2AwF6E8/видео.html
I have one of this companies videocards lying around. An RTX2060 super for something like 200 USD. I bought to see how these rechipped GPU's do...
And I wasn't disappointed actually. It works as a normal RTX2060. And no issues at all. I also fitted a PC with a RX5700XT and the performance was pretty similar (as you would expect).
I therefore dont think its fair to call these people scammers.
Did u get it off Ali express I'm looking at one that says it's a rx5700xt but below says it is a 2060
I have the card, it has a RX 580 2304 (215-0910038) die, 590 GME should have (215-0910066) I made a video with evidence.
TB are right they are scamming, I showed MLLSE the evidence but they kept denying it.
I watched this entire vid and not a single head to head comparison vs a 570, 580, 580 2048 or gd forbid an actual true rx590. Very disappointing. Ive never thumbed down a toasty bros vid before but this was close.
I love this, not just because you pointed out a a scam, but because you said “draws the question.”
The rest of RUclips would have said “begs the question” and not even realized how stupid that would be in context.
The problem is this isn't a scam. They just didn't know the history of the model of that card.
Take the thing apart and check the die number.
I have the card, it has a RX 580 2304 (215-0910038) die, 590 GME should have (215-0910066) I made a video with evidence.
@@AlexHusTech Thanks thats the best way to be sure.
@@AlexHusTech Can't trust people these days.
Runs too cool for a 590, I have a Sapphire pulse in my media pc and it run's in the 70's even with a scaled up fan curve. (at 100% load)
That is because this is Chinese "590" designed for mining while it was profitable. Now being sold cheap to gamers in a new card.
i'd like to see how this card would hold up in the last scam system.
I just got my ASUS Rx 590 GME 8g for 75$ don't know if it's a good deal but I really don't like how the seller only told me this is Rx 590.
Am I the only one who can't find the link to the giveaway?
I seen this card before... I kind of knew it looked sketchy for that price...
You keep calling this a scam several times throughout the video, and even pointing out the seller as being dodgy for that. This is simply unprofessional. If you've done a couple seconds of googling you'd find out that this is a legit card.
You keep claiming that you're pretty sure this is an edited 580 2048SP, which is in reality an RX 570 (or 480), but then throughout the benchmarks you keep getting surprised about how it performs better than you expected for "what it is". In every single title it performed better than a stock RX 580, as it should (because it is pretty much a factory overclocked 580), meanwhile you keep preaching about how dodgy it is to rebrand an 2048SP as 590.
Quote of the year must be "Even though it may not be ok with AMD". Adrenaline & GPU-Z both show very clearly that this is a legit version of the card. You can't fathom the fact that AMD (and Nvidia for that matter) re-release the same processing unit as several GPUs even though they've been doing this for literally years and ALL the indicators pointed to you being wrong.
You're blaming the seller for selling you a genuine product, driving customers away from Chinese GPU sellers when they've finally started being clear about what they're selling. This just makes me question your reliability as a product reviewer, nothing more.
I call them Frankenstein RX580 GPU around $100 this type of GPU for someone currently who is building budget will solve a very big problem.
The fact that new games are getting Vram hunger very soon 8GB GPU will not work if you wish to player the newer AAA games So you just spent around $300+ on GPU that has only 8GB Vram a GPU that soon will no longer hit minimum requirements aka 12GB vram.
So RX580 8GB Frankenstein GPU for under 100 you save a lot of money and we all know 8GB GPU are soon going to have to upgrade but you can game for now
Research on what it get parts to look at you tube review and remember when shopping on line bad review are not fake so read the bad review as they can a better guide the ***** reviews .
Having save now self $150 to $200 this can be saved toward a upgrade GPU a 12GB or 16GB GPU or you can use the cash to upgrade the rest of you system and save up a bit longer
yes please upgrade that poor thing it was screaming for a more powerful gpu.
That's all that you can get from getting something that It's to good to be true
You were lucky to get a 580. This is not always the case. The buy bulk used/ defective GPU boards and slap the new BIOS regardless of what card it was. Someone else might have got a 6750, who knows.
Not a scam card. Literally what the software said it was.
I had my pc built already when I ordered it without gpu card, where do I find the cables that I plug it in to when I have placed it?! Are they just hanging somewhere or do I need to plug them out of somewhere then plug it into the gpu someone help please!
ou kept saying 2048 shading units, when your own CPU-Z results showed 2304 at 4:26. Where did you get the 2048 number from, stuck in your head from a RX 570? What you showed seemed to meet all the specs of a RX 590 GME which was a Chinese up tune of a western RX 580, with all the same base specs, process/architecture, transistor count, shading units, etc., but with a bit higher boost clock. The only thing you seemed to have to go on to say it was an actual RX 580 instead, even though your performance showed unexpected improvements on a 580, as you’d expect from a 580 with a higher boost clock that a 590 GME is, was the date on it. But, that could suggest just as well that AMD simply repurposed 580s with better yields as 590 GMEs themselves.
I think you lose some credibility yourself by calling it a “scam card” when the evidence you yourself show suggests otherwise.
I have the card, it has a RX 580 2304 (215-0910038) die, 590 GME should have (215-0910066) I made a video with evidence.
how much would yall charge for 16gb of ddr3 1600??
A bit harsh calling it a fake card, since they used AMD's own designations for the processor. TechPowerUp's listing for the 590GME says it is the Polaris 20XTR chip;the RX 580 is the Polaris 20 XTX; and only the RX 590 is Polaris 30. Seems less like a manufacturer's scam, than AMD trying to leverage a smaller chip for extra cash. The 580, 590, and 590 GME ALL list as 2304 shaders.
I have the card, it has a RX 580 2304 (215-0910038) die, 590 GME should have (215-0910066) I made a video with evidence, check again the "GPU variant" bit...
You should show the VRAM in your benchmark videos.
I've noticed while watching your videos, that the fellow on screen left with black shirt has a mic that sounds very muffled.
Digging trenches and listening to toasty bros it doesn't get much better than that.
China no. 1
This is not a Radeon RX 580 2048SP, this card is a bios flashed Radeon RX 480. GPU-z reports the chip as an Ellesmere which is from the Artic Islands graphics cards. The reason why you flash bios to Radeon RX 580 GME is because you get the latest driver support. Remember that AMD set its driver support cut off at Radeon RX 4XX series cards. AKA Artic Island graphics cards.
So did mllse label it as a 590 or was it a reseller of the card saying it's a 590 or something?
Not an accident, I made a video & also provided them evidence but still were saying I was wrong!
ruclips.net/video/4GGq2AwF6E8/видео.html
@@AlexHusTech are there other mislabeled mllse cards? Unfortunately I mentioned using them in a b450 budget build.
@@buildyourcomputer I'm not sure I have a MLLSE 5500XT & it performs really well, I have other brands & their services have been good, only MLLSE keep denying it, so won't buy from them in future.
And why don't you expose Intel a380 as well by showing it ture performance 😊 1080p at all settings 😋
Companies intentionally misrepresenting products do not foster any consumer confidence.
In market names as rx580 2048SP also available which are actually rx570 factory over clocked 😂😂😂
I’m taking notes 📝
Also straighten your RUclips thing. Wouldn’t have noticed if you didn’t put something else underneath. It’s now all I can see haha
RX 585
:)
I’ll take it😂😂😂
But why company, but why?
These companies have millions of these things and they aren’t selling great because not nvidia. So why not lie a little to get a competitive advantage? US authorities aren’t going to fly over to china and stop them. Already misleading these things as new products.
But hey, at least they work. Id buy one for $89 if I didn’t already buy a used rx570 for $79 four years ago.
Im actually glad these things are out stealing at least a few sales from gt 1030
maybe flashing to a 590 increases the clockspeed or powerbudget, and they just decided to do that from factory.
still scammy though.
It doesn't I made various videos.
@@AlexHusTech Alex, them toasty bros are trippin, this is clearle an rx580 2304sp and not a 580 2048sp, dont know why they didnt compare them. But they look really unprofessional slipping like that
@@loganpaul3330 Yeah, I done my own test as I have the Red Devil RX 580 & 2 other fake 590 GME they performs all the same on the benchmarks.
Scammers need the slammer Fosho 😂
The real ones know the title was changed 🌚
Show the scam system combo for it !
I sold my rx580 in 2021 for $300
One day I'll be the first to comment, but being 11th is better then being a Bud Light.
Has anyone tried out the 51risc rx580 thats 90?
Not too much different than what nvidia does, bait-n-switch.
Idk I kinda feel like it was an accident lol they prolly actually thought they were 590 gme's cuz I mean those cards are so close together and the price difference is non-existent so it's like y? I actually really feel like they were told or some how under the impression that they were
Not an accident, I made a video & also provided them evidence but still were saying I was wrong!
ruclips.net/video/4GGq2AwF6E8/видео.html
rah im first
i would have loved to see how it runs fortnite
Love ur content wish i could buy some stuff
Mmm that's a interesting scam😅
Damn
RX580 identifies as an RX590, don't be so offensive! 😅
I have to be at least 12th
Toes
Toasty toes
Yo i love ur vids 😮
Amazing
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Would this card fit/work in a HP Pavilion i7 8700 8th gen? I just want to be able to play GW2 and WoW on decent settings.
Thank you for not wasting my life on skipping passed fortnight for the first time. Much appreciated.
i bought one off newegg few months ago it was same brand as in video, claimed to be a rx580 and once installed drivers just fine and went into Gpuz and it was a RX570 so beaware lol (it was for my budget build just a low budget build but still! scammy) @toastybros
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