Ballerina to Teacher [2] - Agrippina Vaganova

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  • Опубликовано: 2 янв 2025
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  • @TVY2013
    @TVY2013 Год назад +4

    Valuable footage, indeed!

  • @simaraft7373
    @simaraft7373 10 лет назад +8

    Oh my! I've been away a few days and look what gem I missed. I just read a bio of Vaganova and she said that she developed her technique to accommodate what was happening in choreography. So certainly both Imperial and Soviet!

    • @JohnRaymondHall
      @JohnRaymondHall  10 лет назад

      hi Sima - hope you enjoyed your few days away. that's so interesting that she developed her method to compliment developments in chore - i guess it's something a good teacher would try to do. i wonder if she was Imperial and Soviet (with an Imperial centre?) - worked within the new system as she could?

    • @simaraft7373
      @simaraft7373 10 лет назад

      Perhaps her genius was to make "the system" irrelevant to ballet.

    • @JohnRaymondHall
      @JohnRaymondHall  10 лет назад

      Sima Raft yes, i think that is right - it is relevant only if you let it be - easier said than done though. leading two parallel lives - when i lived in China work colleagues would invite me to their homes where they sloughed off their Mao suits - they were still wearing them at Beijing Uni in 1988 - and slipped into jeans and tee-shirts from the black market - nothing was said, as though a collective unspoken understanding.

    • @simaraft7373
      @simaraft7373 10 лет назад

      Oh yes I know about that first hand! For the past thirty something years people have had double lives in Iran. Luckily in recent years it's become more don't ask don't tell. A lot less dangerous!

    • @JohnRaymondHall
      @JohnRaymondHall  10 лет назад

      Sima Raft i may have mentioned a photographer friend was involved with a doco about women in Iran 'today' (though a few years back now) made by George Negus for ABC TV here - those who allowed the TV crew into their homes of course would be of a liberal outward-looking kind and not necessarily typical - the crew would travel with the covered women to their homes, where their clothes were changed and make-up applied. very much people living double lives.

  • @juanjosefarina
    @juanjosefarina 6 лет назад +3

    I don't think she could be labeled as either "imperial" or "soviet". In her way of teaching you can see a lot of link to danish, french and italian schools, she herself says so in her book. There were also a lot of german teachers going in and out of st. petersbourg. She grabbed everything, mixed it in a comprehensive way to be teached and learned and modified what she thought was for the better. Always with the focus on ease of learning and preserving the art. I guess she can be considered the LINK between imperial and soviet, but she was one of a kind really. By the way, a documentary of Vaganova Academy released one or two months ago showed this same footage along with a few more glimpses... Could there be more ?

  • @pediatrapaola
    @pediatrapaola 10 лет назад +1

    l know ,petipa described her like that

    • @JohnRaymondHall
      @JohnRaymondHall  10 лет назад

      i read she was a very strong technician (hence 'queen of the variations') so i wonder what it was that made Petipa react to her the way he did.
      was it that she did not put such proficiency to good expressive use?

  • @TracyChitupatham60SD
    @TracyChitupatham60SD Год назад

    Hello, I would like to see if I can license a part of this film for a documentary feature. What is the best way to contact you? Thank you.

    • @JohnRaymondHall
      @JohnRaymondHall  Год назад

      hi Tracy. a lawyer friend whose specialty is intellectual property tells me that copyright expires 50 after the death of the last major participants and cannot be passed on - things then go into the public domain. so i suspect you may be able to use this without license

  • @paolacastelli899
    @paolacastelli899 9 лет назад

    Song?

  • @barbaraalinetexeiradossant7088
    @barbaraalinetexeiradossant7088 6 лет назад

    Ooii

  • @Kelly-dg5xl
    @Kelly-dg5xl 10 лет назад +3

    unlike George Balanchine who was Imperial throughout his whole life Aggrippina Vaganova was just the opposite : soviet !

    • @JohnRaymondHall
      @JohnRaymondHall  10 лет назад +1

      yes that's right - i guess though that Vaganova worked within the Imperial system up till 1917 - Soviet from then on. :)

    • @riccardoriccardi1965
      @riccardoriccardi1965 4 года назад

      I THINK THAT IT'S NOT RIGHT