i just want to say i’m totally obsessed with your vids i’ve watched the 1972 oscar’s deep dive multiple times now because i’m such an oscar and stats nerd and i personally love going through years of the oscars and seeing how everything worked out. thanks for the great content!
10. Triangle of sadness B 8/10 09. All quiet on the western front A- 9/10 08. Avatar the way of water A 9/10 07. Tar A 9/10 06. Women talking A+ 9/10 05. Top Gun Maverick A+ 9/10 04. Elvis A+ 9/10 03. Banchies of Inisherin S 10/10 02. The Fablmens S 10/10 01. Everything everywhere all at once S 10/10
Certainly appreciated EEATO more than you did, but I can still understand finding the movie off-putting (both visually and thematically). It has so much that works on so many levels for viewers (myself included), but it's easy to see how it could be equally repellent.
All quiet on the western front is so much more than just another war movie. At least for us Germans. The book is regarded as one of the most important works of german literature here and this movie is a perfect visualization of the collective memory Germans have of the first world war. The brutality, the meaninglessness, the unreasonability. Enthusiasticly dying for nothing. This movie (and the book that I read in 8th grade) really moved me and I do hope that it wins this year.
Totally agree w/ you on Women Talking. Felt like the screenwriter speaking to the audience for most of its runtime. Also had elements that felt derivative of other great classics (i.e. 12 Angry Men). It's well-intentioned and well-performed but I don't see myself ever watching it again
I have never had someone speak my mind so exactly! I'm only two videos in but I think you have some the most astute observations on youtube.Just your love of "Ordinary People" was enough, but you have made great recommendations of films I've never seen and I'm so impressed! Looking forward to your future!
Tár is definitely the best film of the year: funny, insightful, surprising without causing an eye-roll, the writing is smart and original and also informative (you can learn a thing or two about music), the character of Lydia is just so in focus and in control, just as memorable as a Scarlet or a Sophie. But because all of that it won't win. That's Oscars logic. Hopefully, Cate Blanchett will win although Todd Field should at least get Best Original Screenplay.
agreed! itll almost definitely age the best out of all the nominees, a movie with this sort of tone never wins so i was at least happy it got nominated in some inspired places (director, cinematography, etc). the probable cate loss will be rough though. its crazy that none of todd field's nominated actresses (all fantastic) have ever won
I was completely switched on to the Oscars this year, because of the amount of talent on show - so many exciting, challenging, interesting, exciting and colourful films! Wow! Your views on EEAAO were SO refreshing. I don't share them.... but it was really enjoyable to hear a different point of view. I adored the film. It spoke to me, my sensibilities. I enjoyed that it didn't want to challenge me, as such, but understood me (I guess that's where you might view it as coddling). Elvis was a crazy journey for me. I am a big Baz fan. And I have always been a very big detractor of Elvis. I've always dismissed him. The film showed me a totally different viewpoint, and I feel completely in love with him as a man and as an artist. But then again, I am also finally starting to get in to the Beatles and the Rolling Stones. I have no idea who I am anymore haha..... I am loving the journey regardless. All Quiet, Tar, Banshees, Fablemans, Top Gun, Triangle - wow, all so good! A big surprise for me was Avatar. The first third gave me a headache.... but the whole thing worked beautifully as a whole. I was blown away and cried a LOT. I am stick and tired when people say they think cinema is shit these days. They clearly need to unsubscribe for gross, depressing streaming platforms and leave the house, I think.
I'm not personally someone that gets extremely invested in the Oscars but your videos do a really good job of really showcasing how the awards are better framed as time capsules of the industry trends, I really like the in-depth approach of 1972, I was only really familiar with the Marlan Brando & Bob Fosse stuff but not the rest. As for this 2022, it was definitely an extremely interesting one, a mixture films that under normal circumstances would have far larger audiences but struggled post-pandemic and then 3 juggernauts declaring the return of MoviesTM. Haven't seen All Quiet, felt the same way about Women Talking, just didn't feel like anyone was an actual Mennonite and lacked tension which is bizarre given the subject matter. Personally loved EEAAO but I completely get that it's not going to be people's thing, I do agree with the 2010s internet aesthetic/humour point, that alligns with the Daniels own trajectory I think and I guess it feels somewhat formative in the sense that it hadn't really been done in a feature film format. Was lukewarm on Top Gun & Triangle of Sadness unfortunately but I pretty much felt the same as you did with all the other nominees, Tar also being my personal pick. I am happy to see that we're now in our 5th consecutive year of Oscars where there's at least one Non-english language Best Picture nomination and four out of five for International productions, I think the expansion in membership has at least seen a slightly better attempt of recognising global cinema (BAFTAs used to be good at that too before they started tethering themselves to the Oscar hype machine). Excellent video, I can't wait to see what's next!
One note: The "Dances With Smurfs" accusation about AVATAR (which I myself agree with) is 100% about the writing. And the writing is exactly the reason why I disliked AVATAR and refuse to see WAY OF WATER. I completely respect the visual effects, and I understand Cameron's intent with the film. My biggest complaint is, though, that he absolutely could have made those statements and paired those visual effects with a script in which the characters were not cartoonish, trite caricatures. It's frustrating because we KNOW from his earlier work with THE TERMINATOR, THE ABYSS, and ALIENS that he is capable of writing realistic characters and dialog - but in AVATAR, every character is so....LAZILY written, that I was put off. (I think my exact quote when I walked out of AVATAR was to turn to a friend and wonder aloud why we didn't see Giovanni Ribisi steal candy from a little Na'avi baby because that was the only "bad guy" stereotype he DIDN'T do.) I commend his VFX achievements and respect his themes; I just need there to be a script that doesn't insult my intelligence along with that.
So we disagree on Everything Everywhere Etc, but it's more a difference in taste than a disagreement. And I don't think Avatar Age Of Ultron deserved its nomination: it's gorgeous obviously (JC definitely knows how to sink a ship!), but the script is unfocused, with too many dangling threads. I do appreciate your insightful criticism of all other movies - especially your #10.
Great video! I really love how upfront and consistent you are with your tastes and perspective, they felt super well communicated so even when I disagreed with a lot of these rankings I could understand why and it didn’t like bother me or anything. Real quick, I’d also love to add my own ranking in: - EEAO (so uniquely exciting and heartfelt, “modern” humor done right and very much so just my thing) - Banshees (perfectly balanced tone, Irish maximalism, grieved more for that one character (iykyk) than any other character from anything this year) - TÁR (pretty good but dragged more than it needed to, enough story for a tight 90, Blanchet elevates this a lot for me) - AQWF (a decent adaptation of one of my favorite books, great spectacle but Nope should be here instead tbh) - Top Gun (just really fun and solid, didn’t connect with it much emotionally but seeing that third act in the theater was worth it alone) - Fablemans (felt like a great set-up to an unfinished story, though glad to see Spielberg diverting from Ready Player One territory for once) - Avatar 2 (great visuals but a sloppy story particularly by Cameron’s own standards, too messy and broad in its structure for how shallow and aggressively mainstream it is-tho tbf I need to rewatch in IMAX 2D bc the 3D ruined my immersion completely-but the masses deserve better writing!!) - Women Talking (felt like a decent one act play stretched into a feature without justifying its runtime or medium much at all, some good performances but its world and characters all felt so surface level and oddly performative-like they were clearly actors acting, not real people just being) - Triangle of Sadness (obnoxiously on the nose and rarely funny, easily the most drawn-out slog of this list with only a handful of semi-interesting but totally underdeveloped things to say-the only nominee that truly makes me mad about snubs like Aftersun and Nope) *a few grammar edits
Yes, love for Tár! We don't have much similar in our rankings, but we do agree on this for #1 :) I thought it was so thought provoking, somehow both current and timeless (in the sense I think it'll be great to revisit down the line), and overall so well crafted. I agree with all your thoughts on its strengths too. Keep up the vids, I enjoy all your stuff.
Out of this lineup I have a definitive top 4 that I quite like, and I'd be more than happy with any of them winning - three of them are in your own top 4 (TÁR, Fabelmans, Banshees), and the other film would be EEAAO. I think your reasons for disliking it are many of the reasons why I like it - the shameless silliness of it, the in-your-face sense of humor, and the courage to just be earnest. And I think the boldness of its choices and the wild disparity of its tones is actually quite challenging, so I would not agree that it's a film that just "coddles" the viewer either. Then we have four decent-to-good films in Avatar, Triangle of Sadness, Top Gun and Women Talking (I have the same issues with the latter as you, but I still appreciate it as pure, cut-the-bullshit ideological debate too). Then there's All Quiet, which I find somewhat competent but in a very sleep-inducing and uninspired way; and Elvis, which to me is another extremely predictable, Anthony McCarten-esque, I'd-rather-just-read-the-Wikipedia-page musical biopic that just happens to be beefed up by Luhrmann's spectacle (and unlike you, I'm not a fan of his visual antics - at least here). Two turkeys out of 10 is actually a pretty good ratio as far as Best Picture lineups go, to be honest, so I agree with you that this one is at least above average.
I feel the same way about EEAAO! It has a mix of modernity and sincerity that feels very fresh because of how so much of modern pop culture has been about avoiding sincerity
Women Talking is second only to Everything Everywhere All At Once for me . They are easily my favorites . The rest I cared for far less or not at all. I am trying to rank the rest of them but it’s not easy.
very glad to hear someone with a similar reading of elvis, works so much better as a cult of celebrity film with elvis as god than as a music biopic, baz luhrmann’s best in years (although i agree the last third kills it) while i don’t love every film nominated there is certainly lots to appreciate in each nomination so it’s immediately the best list of noms since 2017’s. TÁR should sweep my ranking: 1. TÁR 2. the fabelmans 3. banshees 4. elvis 5. avatar 6. top gun 7. eeaao 8. women talking 9. triangle of sadness (haven’t seen all quiet)
Women Talking was really great imo :(. Sad to hear you didn't enjoy. My favorite nominee is Everything Everywhere All At Once easily. Not juts my favorite movie nominated but my favorite movie of 2022
Honestly, I haven't really gotten around to watching the nominees this year. I'm really coming back to cinephilia after about a decade of mostly concentrating on watching anime. At this point I kind of want to balance both hobbies better. I have enjoyed all your videos so far and will keep watching your career with great interest.
i don't have much to offer bc i've only seen everything, everywhere and banshees, but i do agree with your thoughts on both. i think i enjoyed everything, everywhere slightly more than you did, but we are so on the same page when it comes to the humor in the film. it's not for me. it was delightful to see key quan again, as someone who watched the goonies approximately 100 times as a kid. banshees is a beautiful film with beautiful performances that i'd recommend to just about anyone. i did just recently watch decision to leave, which i thought was pretty brilliant. every detail was so immaculate that i kept rewinding and re-watching scenes trying to pick up on every little thing. and tang wei gave such a compelling performance. i could barely take my eyes off her!
When you put Women Talking in last place, I was like, "Finally, someone else says what I have been saying since I saw this movie. Agree completely". Then you put Everything Everywhere All At Once in 9th and I was like, "Urge to kill rising!" You gave me whiplash. Everything Everywhere was my #1 movie of last year. To each his own though. Great videos by the way. Keep it up.
Love your videos. Your extensive knowledge of movie and Oscars history is impressive, as a student of the show myself. Even though we disagree on some (I love EEAAO) I really love how you explain what you liked/didn’t like from each nominee. Would be curious for your thoughts on Babylon getting little to no love; I personally loved it. What a great year for movies! Please keep releasing videos!!
loved babylon! like the fabelmans i think its a movie thats been mischaracterized, and its really personal/introspective as opposed to just a send-up of hollywood decadence
honest, intelligent ranking - you’re becoming one of the only people who’s taste I respect when it comes to film criticism (even though that may not be your direct intention); keep the videos coming!
I really like your analysis and thoughtful articulation, I think this past year has been really fantastic! My favorite movie eeoao, but I respect your thoughts. My hot take is that the batman and the menu should have made it in. I just randomly found your channel and I love it
I have been trying to figure out my feelings about EEAAO and I think you might have sneaked into my head and stolen the thoughts I could not put into words. Really well made ranking.
I really like EEAAO, but I understand the points you raise about it. I think it also makes sense that you mentioned finding the comedy grating because it reminded you of early social media. If you choose to watch it again, I encourage you to try watching it almost like a character study of Evelyn. She's a person who's disconnected from that cultural attitude, who never made the conceptual leap into the Internet Age, and it comes crashing into her life and forces her into action in a way that speaks to a widespread desire for agency in a modern world that often seems to suppress it. I think that's the key to the movie's magic for me; if the protagonist was a young, tuned-in character, I feel like I wouldn't have liked it as much.
thanks! i think thats a compelling way to look at it. i needed it to slow down and flesh out ideas like that in a more focused way, like ive gone back and watched the big climactic moments in isolation and think they work a lot better than when i watched the full thing, when im in the middle of 2+ hours of cutaway gags all of the thematic threads get clouded for me
Wow, 4 of your top half is in my bottom half! 1) EEAAO 2) Tàr 3) Women Talking 4) Top Gun: Maverick 5) Triangle of Sadness 6) All Quiet 7) Banshees 8) The Fabelmans 9) Elvis 10) Avatar: The Way of Water I would love to hear more of your thoughts about Cameron because I just cannot get into any of his films (only haven't seen Titanic, True Lies, and The Abyss)
I think in the future 2022 is gonna be looked at as one of the best "best picture" line-ups ever. One of those "all killer no filler" lists in the vein of 1964, 1972, 1994 and 2007. I am 8/10 into them with All Quiet and Women Talking to go, but so far the movies I thought I would like exceeded my expectations, the movies I went into determined I was gonna hate (Top Gun) were delightful and moving and my far and away favourites from previous years (Licorice Pizza, The Artist, The Favourite) have several movies on their level. Elvis, The Fablemans and EEAAO are my favourites this year. Couple try too hard to be "universal stories" but all go off on enough weird, personal tangents for them to feel like the work of artists really nakedly putting themselves out there. Edit: Also, nothing has brought me more joy this year than the Randy Newman song on the Everything Everywhere soundtrack.
totally, the average quality is really high, like you said i think 2007 is another recent standout, i like 2013, 2015, but this year blows the past 7 years or so out of the water imo
I kinda respect how different your rankings are. I completely disagree often but grey commentary nonetheless. I haven't seen Women Talking yet but my ranking is: 1. EEAAO 2. Tar 3. Triangle of Sadness 4. All Quiet 5. Banshees 6. The Fabelmans 7. Elvis 8. Top Gun: Maverick 9. Avatar 2
Great video! My personal ranking (very different from yours :) ) is 1. Everything Everywhere All at Once 2. Tar 3. The Banshees of Inisherin 4. Top Gun: Maverick 5. The Fabelmans 6. Women Talking 7. All Quiet on the Western Front 8. Triangle of Sadness 9. Avatar 2 10. Elvis If I had my way with the nominations, I'd take out the last 3 and slide in RRR, Babylon and Aftersun. EEAAO felt like I was watching a movie about my Mom (Evelyn in the main timeline; the version without all the powers). It really pushes the limits of what cinema can do. I'm also so happy that a sci-fi movie has won Best Picture. What are the movies that you would have nominated?
this is one of the rare years where the best picture noms and the movies i love mostly align, so i honestly wouldnt change the lineup that much, i'd remove the bottom 2 from my ranked list and replace those with Babylon and Decision to Leave probably, or Close
I discovered your channel today and I love it !!!! It would be cool if you could do analysis of movies, genres of movies, or a large period of movies. Keep going with your videos :))))
I know that this is three months too late, but I just discovered your chanel and really like it. I was kind of surprised how similar our lists are, considering that I originally took you as being very high-brow while I'd consider myself a film populist.
thank you! i do usually skew toward arty stuff but also to me gone with the wind and titanic are both among the top 5 american movies ever made, so i have a real fixation on big popular spectacles too
@@alltalkingpictures Thanks for responding! In your future Oscar breakdowns, do you have any interest in 1952 (High Noon vs. Greatest Show) or 1998 (SPR vs. Shakespeare)?
1952 for sure, since there's a ton to talk about and i'm a big fan of high noon too. 1998 is one of those notorious years so maybe eventually, im just less drawn to recent years since they're more frequently talked about and have been covered already in other places
I respect you thinking Charlib dean is the best performance in the film she’s definitely like 3 or 4 for me but woody harlson and Zlatko burik had my favorite dynamic of the year and there delivery of the already hilarious lines was just 😩
Good video! Like somebody else here guessed, I probably got served your first video thanks to my Be Kind Rewind subscription, although I'm subscribed to some other film channels as well. I feel the same about EEAAO; it didn't match the hype it was getting and that the humor didn't do it for me, and I'm not above low-brow/silly or multiversal stuff (I like the MCU lol, my taste is not so discerning). Nothing about it really resonated with me. I don't feel as warmly about Tár as you though. It started so strong too; Cate Blanchett just talking about music is something I never knew I needed, and I could've watched two hours each of the interview and Juilliard scenes. Then it got less interesting fast, and at the mid point, when I felt I knew what the conflict of the story was shaping up to be, I just stopped out of disinterest. So what did I like? Banshees of Inisherin, the Fabelmans and Triangle of Sadness were probably my top three. Banshees has great performances (Keoghan's performance stuck with me especially too), and Triangle just had some quality about it that kept me engrossed the whole way through. I guess I like comedies. The Fabelmans is up there because it's a coming of age story and I'm easy to please that way. I would've put the Whale up there too, Fraser's performance was amazing and I don't care what critics or anyone have to say about the rest of the movie.
My ranking: 1.- EEAAO 2.- Banshees of Inisherin 3.- The Fabelmans 4.- Top Gun: Maverick 5.- Avatar way of water 6.- Triangle of Sadness 7.- Tár 8.- Elvis 9.- AQOTWF 10.- Women Talking
I'm going to go in another direction and state my biggest snub of 2022 : The Northman. This movie should have gotten nominated for its technical aspects at the very least. The set and even the costumes were created with actual experts in Norse architecture and Norse wear to ensure as much accuracy as possible. I would have loved to see all this work be recognized by the Academy.
From the ones I've seen: 1. The Banshees of Inisherin 2. Everything Everywhere all at Once 3.The Fablemens 4.Top Gun Maverick 5. Avatar The Way of Water
I found your channel through your first video (think the algorithm boosted it for a lot of people, I also watch a lot of be kind rewinds channel, which covers similar stuff) & love your deep dives. I’ve learned a lot from your channel & hope you do more.
I love how well thought out and researched your videos have been so far. Keep it up. I enjoyed hearing your thoughts on our current batch of nominees. Surprised by how different our ranking looks but that makes it more interesting honestly. We both agree that this is a strong year for movies. My ranking is… 1. Everything Everywhere All at Once 2. The Banshees of Inisherin 3. Tar 4. All Quiet on the Western Front 5. Women Talking 6. Triangle of Sadness 7. The Fabelmans 8. Top Gun: Maverick 9. Elvis 10. (You do make me feel as though I’m missing out but…) Avatar: The Way of Water
I really liked tar. Saw your video on 72 Oscars. I am renting cabaret tonight. I saw tenet last night at Chinese in Hollyood. They have all the best pictures on the walls. Made me think of this channel.
Banshees of Inisherin was my favorite movie of this lineup. I love the way Martin McDonaugh writes characters and his brand of dark humor just always hits for me. I really wanted it to win original screenplay and supporting actress for Kerry Condon (Jamie Lee Curtis had no business winning that Oscar, she's not even the best supporting actress in her own movie. I'm still mad about it.). Honestly Colin Farrell would've been my pick for best actor as well.
*Totally* agree on Harris Dickinson. If you haven't seen them, I highly recommend _Beach Rats_ and _Postcards from London_ -- at least in order to see him do some terrific acting (and be hawtt). Also, I love your mashed-up title for this vid.
I think your perspective is kind of opposite to mine in this but I do appreciate your videos very much and your insight on each movie. I still have to see all of the nominees but I can say that after watching EEAAO I got the feeling that there was nothing else quite like it, and its mix of playfulness and seriousness while talking about motherhood and family really hit me. I also enjoyed triangle of sadness although I think that some scenes could have been better edited. I did not know, however about the reference so I guess it makes sense to not rank it that high. I am kind of a sucker for socioeconomic commentary so yeah, I was happy when parasite won an Oscar and I am not surprised at the amount of praise that EEAAO got. I guess I would have liked for Cate Blanchett to win best actress even tho I didn’t enjoy Tar that much. I’ll be waiting for your next video, thank you for this ranking!
no offense, but lists like this scare me lol. after scrubbing through, i might have to wait until after the oscars and after #9 wins best picture, just as a superstition thing 🤣🤣
lol i doubt most academy members have a list that looks like this tbh--even though i know there must be some people who really dislike EEAAO and put it at the bottom like me, the amount of #1 votes its getting alone will carry it
I don’t like Tar the same reason that I don’t like The power of the dog, it represents some personal issues that without the hopeful tones or saccharines retraumatize me.
I totally agree with your EEAAO take, but not entirely with the placement. I wanted so badly to click with the movie, but yeah, it felt totally like 'The Oatmeal.' Generally though, I disagree with your blockbuster placements. While technically impressive, I felt Top Gun and Avatar were soulless husks. My ranking is as follows: 1. Tár 2. Banshees of Innisheran 3. Triangle of Sadness 4. Fablemans 5. All Quiet on the Western Front 6. Women Talking 7. EEAAO 8. Elvis 9. Avatar 10. Top Gun: Maverick
Really liked listening to you talk about these films. I really enjoyed The Banshees of Inisherin and All Quiet on the Western Front. I haven't seen Tar but will have to now!
2022 has been my second favorite Oscars year (2nd only to 2019). Here's my list btw. 1. EEAAO - no words can describe how this movie made me feel! 2. All Quiet on the Western Front 3. Top Gun: Maverick 4. Triangle of Sadness 5. Tar* 6. The Fabelmans* 7. Banshees of Inisherin* *not a fan of slow-paced films. I would literally doze off. Haven't seen 3 of the nominees: Elvis & Women Talking - heard bad reviews but planning to watch it Avatar: Way of Water - have absolutely no plans of watching it ever. To date, I haven't even watched the first Avatar.
I am interested in the hyper-detailed stuff you are interested. This was great, even if we diverged a few times on movies. You’re 3 for 3. Looking forward to #4.
My biggest problem with the first Avatar was that it is designed to be seen in 3D in the cinema. As someone who already wears glasses the addition of the 3D glasses is at best uncomfortable and by the end of the film impractical. The bridge of my nose simply isn't designed to hold two pairs of glasses for hours. Hence when a film is designed to be shown in the cinema as 3D, I opt out completely and get my reduced experienced cheaper at home, on a future date. Avatar 2 falls squarely into that category of streaming/TV only movie for me.
I find your comments SO insightful and think you really get to the heart of things which I love! I also resonate so deeply with your distaste for EEAAO’s brand of maximalist absurdism and I think it’s best seen in Jobu Tupaki’s intro scene. I don’t think we should be using words like “original” to describe an idea of “everything” whose scope feels so limited-namely 1) cringe 2) millennial 3) American. *checks notes* a wrestler, dildo combat, and a samba dancer with the Carmen Miranda banana hat? Not to mention the samba costumes were paired with generic “Latin” stock music which is actually Mexican ranchera music… it all comes across so cursory and soulless to me 😭 it makes me even more upset because the dialogue and exposition going on in the scene is so fun, but I can barely see past the confetti vomit frankly.
Ooh forgot to put my ranking! Haven’t seen Elvis or all quiet, so: 1. Fabelmans 2. Avatar 3. Tar 4. Banshees 5. Top gun 6. Triangle 7. EEAAO 8. Women talking I actually more or less loved them all though-great year like you mentioned!!
I knew you were a Tar boy! God I loved that movie! I think you are the only other person that shares my take on Women Talking. I love Sarah Polley and was rooting for her to win all season without seeing the film. Finally, LAST WEEK I watched it on a day my boyfriend was working late and I had had a glass of wine or two and was in the mood to cry it out. I was shocked that a movie with such powerful subject matter could leave me so unaffected. I couldn't believe how stilted and unnatural a lot of the moments were. Ben Whishaw is usually someone I think can do no wrong as an actor but it was painful watching him over act so much--my guess was to make up for how underwritten his character was. The moment where they all laughed felt so forced and written, but I thought all of those actresses were doing their absolute best to sell it. On the plus side, my disappointment over that film helped me to find your channel which I absolutely love! I'm a huge old Hollywood fan and I adore all the detail and passion you put into your videos! Please keep them coming!
For me the best film out of the nominees was The Banshees of Inisherin and also captured a really prominent mindset in our current culture of hopelessness and making fun of it as well. The other film that captured this sentiment quite well was probably the actual winner EEAAO, but probably won bc it’s much more optimistic and hopeful. I quite enjoyed it too, but I wouldn’t say it’s my favorite of the year looking back. My actual favorite of the year was probably Babylon or Close.
It’s interesting the critiques you got for women talking and EEAO is the exact criticism I had for avatar 2 and James Cameron entire talent as a filmmaker. To me his direction doesn’t translate to his screenwriting he’s great at world building through the visuals but his screenplays by adding depth and understanding to the world he’s building end up falling extremely flat and clumsy. That’s the opposite I felt EEEAO did the symbolism and maximum usages enhances the story that is depicted, I feel the different from women talking the dialogue and characters actually felt extremely real especially when they tell their monologue the screenwriting feels less like a play or a movie and more like a real life window into a isolated community making a shift. I do agree with putting banishes and tar in the top 5
i guess i think the movie plays around with irony throughout (in an unfunny way) before settling on this 3rd act earnestness which is ultimately facile and designed to coddle rather than challenge its audience
Even though I haven't seen Avatar 2, Women Talking or All Quiet on the Western Front. I pretty much agree with the others, I was really disappointed when I watched EEAAO and have the same thoughts as you do. Elvis was fine, Tom Hank's voice over was a pain to get through. Triangle of Sadness was a fun (full) theatre experience. Top Gun: Maverick is good blockbuster filmmaking but that's as much as you'll get out of it. Banshees sits with you and all four performances are very good, out of the five, Kerry is my personal pick. The Fabelmans is a film that I think was kinda marketed/thought of wrong, it's not too much about the 'magic' of movies but quite a focused look at his upbringing and use of filmmaking because of that. To me, the high school stuff was fleshed out, Chloe East has good comedic timing. Really shocking that Gabriel is not at least nominated for best actor. TAR is one of the best of the year, it's so carefully crafted and it's one that pulls you in from the first frame. Nina Hoss should should have been nominated instead of Jamie Lee Curtis, her stares tell so much. It seems the Academy isn't too keen on it which is a shame. Shame Nope wasn't up for at least technical stuff and pitiful that Decision to Leave didn't get nominated for anything. Thanks for your videos, I really enjoy all that you've talked about so far and I am patiently waiting for more!
yes totally, the fabelmans is much more about the dysfunctional/pathological elements of moviemaking versus just the "magic" of it. and chloe east was also perfect i forgot to mention her!
@@alltalkingpictures that bedroom scene is hilarious as well as when she breaks up with him at prom. i love the cameos from judd hirsch (ordinary people lovers rise) and david lynch. the more i think about it, the more i love it.
I haven’t seen them all but - 6) Top Gun: Maverick 5) Elvis 4) Everything Everywhere All At Once 3) The Banshees of Inisherin 2) All Quiet On The Western Front 1) The Fabelmans I would like to get to TÁR, Triangle of Sadness and Women Talking at some point, though. I really don’t have much interest in Avatar so I’m really putting that off, I guess. I also disagree that this year was the best in a decade, mostly because I think 2019 was a really strong year but that’s neither here nor there.
Very interesting takes! I dont agree with a lot (EEAAO was a near perfect movie for me and TGM was probably the worst Best Picture nomination ive ever seen) but your points are well reasoned and justified. Excited to watch the rest of your channels!
This all feels like longer than a year ago. I liked the staged artificiality of Women Talking (down to its wooden title) from what I remember, the interest and tension for me was all about the message straining against the form. I watched it on a plane though, was pretty tired, and haven't seen it since. I thought I would have seen all of these nominees by now, but I still haven't seen Elvis or the Fabelmans. And I still haven't seen The Whale.
Just gotta say, for your #9, you're my GOAT, lmao. You more or less described everything that I disliked about this movie in such a succinct way that I was too afraid to say at the time because everyone seemingly loved it. I was going to subscribe when checking your 1972 Oscars video out, but turns out, I already did! I have to say, after watching all these videos so far, you are doing fantastic work at diving into these niche elements of Hollywood, particularly its politics and some of its meta trends in relation with history. But something I was very pleasantly surprised with this video is how good your film criticism is. Though I don't share the same love for it as you did (personally Top Gun Maverick was my favorite of the populous blockbusters), it was fascinating to here you argue for Avatar 2 and the brilliance of James Cameron and his ambitions of making sensory loading spectacles. I would love to see you make a video on James Cameron/Avatar or even some occasional reviews or analysis on other films you love. Everything you've made so far is great and I hope you do more soon!
thank you! doing a smaller scale casual set of reviews like this was fun so i'd love to figure out a way to do more of them in between my bigger projects
You’re the only person I’ve been able to find with me who agrees on the fact that Tár was the best of the year, and EEAAO was one of, if not, the worst. I love the long, drawn out overture of Tár which almost acts like a screening mechanism for people who just won’t get it. Only through a neurotic lesbian can this story be delivered to journalists at The Cut and NYT Magazine. (I kind of can’t believe so many critics have it high praise, as it seemed to be a pretty searing indictment of the professional critic class, but whatever). And well said - it very much portrays the kind of culture we live in now and will be such a perfect time capsule for future years to revisit. It is also brilliant to have a lesbian movie without a single sex scene.
Even though there’s some different views than mine, but I understand fully! BTW, I was so dizzy by the time Elvis ended and it was my least favorite of the best picture 10 but saved me from leaving the thanks to Austin Butler and the costume. Oh Måneskin end credit theme made me happy as a Eurovision fan :) Top Gun Maverick had the luck to get an 2022 release. People were thinking about war (albeit in Ukraine) and wanted “our side” to win. I 100% agree that Condon should’ve got Best Supporting Actress. Hands Down.
I agree with what you said about EEAAO, but at the same time, I'm glad that such a wild movie menaged to win Best Picture. Considering how the Oscars are usually said to be very conservative (genre-wise), it's a good sign that The Academy is now capable of picking something rather unexpected. My personal ranking (haven't seem Avatar 2): 1. The Banshees of Inisherin 2. Elvis 3. The Fabelmans 4. Tar 5. Everything Everywhere All At Once 6. Triangle of Sadness 7. Top Gun: Maverick 8. All Quiet on The Western Front 9. Women Talking
My list looks PRETTY different, but I get what you’re saying about EEAAO seeming a little behind the curve-I think that’s kinda just the nature of Oscar’s getting made by not gen z maybe? Still love the movie, but I get your point-maybe a little overhyped (but so are a lot of movies that enter the “film bro” canon) Love the first performance scene in Elvis, love the beach day premiere/hallway scene in Fabelmans, also enjoyed All Quiets score, triangle of sadness is the good version of women talking (a movie version of your favorite literature book) Can’t get behind avatar because it’s just not my thing (also what’s the deal with all the weird gender stereotypes?? ) But Tar is amazing!! She definitely deserves best actress Love the variety in this years best pictures-I like the list of 10
LOVE those parts of the fabelmans + elvis. and yes definitely true about EEAAO, it verrrrrry much feels like a product of two millennial directors who saw the rise of facebook/twitter while they were in college, graduated during the recession, etc
My ranking is: 1. Tár 2. The Fabelmans 3. Women Talking 4. The Banshees of Inisherin 5. Everything Everywhere All at Once 6. Triangle of Sadness 7. All Quiet on the Western Front 8. Top Gun: Maverick 9. Avatar: The Way of Water 10. Elvis
Your spot on about EEAAO. Watching that for me was akin to being hit over the head non stop with a cast iron frying pan for nearly 2 hours. A kinetic mess.
This is my ranking btw if anyone cares 1 year later lol 10.Elvis 9. Triangle of Sadness 8. All Quiet on the Western Front 7. Avatar 6. Women Talking 5. Tar 4. Top Gun 3. Everything Everywhere All At Once 2. The Fabelmans 1. The Banshees of Inisherin
Man, after watching a lot of these, I feel really validated hearing your thoughts of EEAAO, which are similar to mine. It’s a movie I wanted to like so badly but just couldn’t. I think the actors did a great job and love the recognition they’re getting, but the writing was so grating to me, it was one of the worst paced third acts I’ve ever seen in a movie with this much acclaim. It has its merits, but it felt like watching a Rick and Morty episode stretched out to two and a half hours.
I couldn't agree with your analysis more! Everything Everywhere All At Once totally has a peak millennial/Gen Z social media sensibility which was pretty unbearable to watch. It's the ultimate self-affirmation movie for perpetually online people who wonder why they're depressed all the time. It's going to age about as well as cringey Tumblr posts from 2013. Tar was hands down the best film of the year.
Can’t say how much I appreciate ur videos… even if I TOTALLY disagree with your ratings (Everything Everywhere All at Once is totally YES for me, either Elvis is a totally NOT). Can’t wait for next contents!
I didn't like EEAAO for the exact same reasons-- usually a mismatch in humor is the first thing to put me off of a movie. Also had Women Talking near the bottom though my least favorite of the bunch is Triangle of Sadness. Tar is my favorite & Banshees is a close second. Still need to see Avatar, Elvis, & All Quiet.
Coming by months after the results and I definitely had a different list. I won’t say it’s wrong bc it’s subjective with who they picked BUT I gotta be honest, Avatar at #2 is a choice. I’ll chalk it up to the James Cameron stanning but I personally did not see how Avatar even got a nomination. It really didn’t make sense like even by blockbusters we have had so many spectacle films far more deserving. I heard what you’re coming from but it’s meh
01. EEAAO - 9/10 02. The Banshees of Inisherin - 8/10 03. TÁR - 8/10 04. Triangle of Sadness - 5/10 05. All Quiet on the Western Front - 5/10 06. Women Talking - 5/10 07. The Fabelmans - 5/10 08. Avatar:The Way of Water - 5/10 09. Top Gun: Maverick - 5/10 10. Elvis - 4/10
I know this is a year later and not so relevant but I honestly wonder how the discussion of Women Talking would be if they changed which characters were played by famous actors. I feel like we completely focus on the three women played by famous people and it colors the way people read the movie. I agree, those three women are bland and tropey and all the performances are pretty terrible. But if you look at all the other characters I feel like they do have stronger performances with more nuanced perspectives and they elevate the movie every time Claire Foy seeks to destroy it.
For me it's the exact opposite .The only ones I denfinely lrank high are Everything Everywhere All at Once and Women Talking. I think previous years had a stronger field . My choices for three through seven would rank lower against past nominees .It was also harder to rank the middle of the of the pack.I liked some things about them but overall didn't like them much. 1.Everything Everywhere All At Once 2.Women Talking 3.The Banshees of Inisherin 4. All Quiet On The Western Front 5.Avatar The Way of Water 6. The Fablemans 7.Top Gun Mavrick 8.Elvis 9. Triangle of Sadness 10.Tar
i just want to say i’m totally obsessed with your vids i’ve watched the 1972 oscar’s deep dive multiple times now because i’m such an oscar and stats nerd and i personally love going through years of the oscars and seeing how everything worked out. thanks for the great content!
10. Triangle of sadness B 8/10
09. All quiet on the western front A- 9/10
08. Avatar the way of water A 9/10
07. Tar A 9/10
06. Women talking A+ 9/10
05. Top Gun Maverick A+ 9/10
04. Elvis A+ 9/10
03. Banchies of Inisherin S 10/10
02. The Fablmens S 10/10
01. Everything everywhere all at once S 10/10
Certainly appreciated EEATO more than you did, but I can still understand finding the movie off-putting (both visually and thematically). It has so much that works on so many levels for viewers (myself included), but it's easy to see how it could be equally repellent.
All quiet on the western front is so much more than just another war movie. At least for us Germans. The book is regarded as one of the most important works of german literature here and this movie is a perfect visualization of the collective memory Germans have of the first world war. The brutality, the meaninglessness, the unreasonability. Enthusiasticly dying for nothing. This movie (and the book that I read in 8th grade) really moved me and I do hope that it wins this year.
Loved this! Coming back to say that I hope you do one for this year! Adore hearing your thoughts on movies
Totally agree w/ you on Women Talking. Felt like the screenwriter speaking to the audience for most of its runtime. Also had elements that felt derivative of other great classics (i.e. 12 Angry Men). It's well-intentioned and well-performed but I don't see myself ever watching it again
I have never had someone speak my mind so exactly! I'm only two videos in but I think you have some the most astute observations on youtube.Just your love of "Ordinary People" was enough, but you have made great recommendations of films I've never seen and I'm so impressed! Looking forward to your future!
Tár is definitely the best film of the year: funny, insightful, surprising without causing an eye-roll, the writing is smart and original and also informative (you can learn a thing or two about music), the character of Lydia is just so in focus and in control, just as memorable as a Scarlet or a Sophie.
But because all of that it won't win. That's Oscars logic. Hopefully, Cate Blanchett will win although Todd Field should at least get Best Original Screenplay.
agreed! itll almost definitely age the best out of all the nominees, a movie with this sort of tone never wins so i was at least happy it got nominated in some inspired places (director, cinematography, etc). the probable cate loss will be rough though. its crazy that none of todd field's nominated actresses (all fantastic) have ever won
I was completely switched on to the Oscars this year, because of the amount of talent on show - so many exciting, challenging, interesting, exciting and colourful films!
Wow! Your views on EEAAO were SO refreshing. I don't share them.... but it was really enjoyable to hear a different point of view. I adored the film. It spoke to me, my sensibilities. I enjoyed that it didn't want to challenge me, as such, but understood me (I guess that's where you might view it as coddling).
Elvis was a crazy journey for me. I am a big Baz fan. And I have always been a very big detractor of Elvis. I've always dismissed him. The film showed me a totally different viewpoint, and I feel completely in love with him as a man and as an artist. But then again, I am also finally starting to get in to the Beatles and the Rolling Stones. I have no idea who I am anymore haha..... I am loving the journey regardless.
All Quiet, Tar, Banshees, Fablemans, Top Gun, Triangle - wow, all so good!
A big surprise for me was Avatar. The first third gave me a headache.... but the whole thing worked beautifully as a whole. I was blown away and cried a LOT.
I am stick and tired when people say they think cinema is shit these days. They clearly need to unsubscribe for gross, depressing streaming platforms and leave the house, I think.
I'm not personally someone that gets extremely invested in the Oscars but your videos do a really good job of really showcasing how the awards are better framed as time capsules of the industry trends, I really like the in-depth approach of 1972, I was only really familiar with the Marlan Brando & Bob Fosse stuff but not the rest. As for this 2022, it was definitely an extremely interesting one, a mixture films that under normal circumstances would have far larger audiences but struggled post-pandemic and then 3 juggernauts declaring the return of MoviesTM. Haven't seen All Quiet, felt the same way about Women Talking, just didn't feel like anyone was an actual Mennonite and lacked tension which is bizarre given the subject matter. Personally loved EEAAO but I completely get that it's not going to be people's thing, I do agree with the 2010s internet aesthetic/humour point, that alligns with the Daniels own trajectory I think and I guess it feels somewhat formative in the sense that it hadn't really been done in a feature film format. Was lukewarm on Top Gun & Triangle of Sadness unfortunately but I pretty much felt the same as you did with all the other nominees, Tar also being my personal pick. I am happy to see that we're now in our 5th consecutive year of Oscars where there's at least one Non-english language Best Picture nomination and four out of five for International productions, I think the expansion in membership has at least seen a slightly better attempt of recognising global cinema (BAFTAs used to be good at that too before they started tethering themselves to the Oscar hype machine). Excellent video, I can't wait to see what's next!
One note:
The "Dances With Smurfs" accusation about AVATAR (which I myself agree with) is 100% about the writing. And the writing is exactly the reason why I disliked AVATAR and refuse to see WAY OF WATER.
I completely respect the visual effects, and I understand Cameron's intent with the film. My biggest complaint is, though, that he absolutely could have made those statements and paired those visual effects with a script in which the characters were not cartoonish, trite caricatures. It's frustrating because we KNOW from his earlier work with THE TERMINATOR, THE ABYSS, and ALIENS that he is capable of writing realistic characters and dialog - but in AVATAR, every character is so....LAZILY written, that I was put off. (I think my exact quote when I walked out of AVATAR was to turn to a friend and wonder aloud why we didn't see Giovanni Ribisi steal candy from a little Na'avi baby because that was the only "bad guy" stereotype he DIDN'T do.)
I commend his VFX achievements and respect his themes; I just need there to be a script that doesn't insult my intelligence along with that.
So we disagree on Everything Everywhere Etc, but it's more a difference in taste than a disagreement. And I don't think Avatar Age Of Ultron deserved its nomination: it's gorgeous obviously (JC definitely knows how to sink a ship!), but the script is unfocused, with too many dangling threads. I do appreciate your insightful criticism of all other movies - especially your #10.
Great video! I really love how upfront and consistent you are with your tastes and perspective, they felt super well communicated so even when I disagreed with a lot of these rankings I could understand why and it didn’t like bother me or anything.
Real quick, I’d also love to add my own ranking in:
- EEAO (so uniquely exciting and heartfelt, “modern” humor done right and very much so just my thing)
- Banshees (perfectly balanced tone, Irish maximalism, grieved more for that one character (iykyk) than any other character from anything this year)
- TÁR (pretty good but dragged more than it needed to, enough story for a tight 90, Blanchet elevates this a lot for me)
- AQWF (a decent adaptation of one of my favorite books, great spectacle but Nope should be here instead tbh)
- Top Gun (just really fun and solid, didn’t connect with it much emotionally but seeing that third act in the theater was worth it alone)
- Fablemans (felt like a great set-up to an unfinished story, though glad to see Spielberg diverting from Ready Player One territory for once)
- Avatar 2 (great visuals but a sloppy story particularly by Cameron’s own standards, too messy and broad in its structure for how shallow and aggressively mainstream it is-tho tbf I need to rewatch in IMAX 2D bc the 3D ruined my immersion completely-but the masses deserve better writing!!)
- Women Talking (felt like a decent one act play stretched into a feature without justifying its runtime or medium much at all, some good performances but its world and characters all felt so surface level and oddly performative-like they were clearly actors acting, not real people just being)
- Triangle of Sadness (obnoxiously on the nose and rarely funny, easily the most drawn-out slog of this list with only a handful of semi-interesting but totally underdeveloped things to say-the only nominee that truly makes me mad about snubs like Aftersun and Nope)
*a few grammar edits
So glad to see another video by you! I loved your last two videos, and I can’t wait for more.
Yes, love for Tár! We don't have much similar in our rankings, but we do agree on this for #1 :) I thought it was so thought provoking, somehow both current and timeless (in the sense I think it'll be great to revisit down the line), and overall so well crafted. I agree with all your thoughts on its strengths too. Keep up the vids, I enjoy all your stuff.
Out of this lineup I have a definitive top 4 that I quite like, and I'd be more than happy with any of them winning - three of them are in your own top 4 (TÁR, Fabelmans, Banshees), and the other film would be EEAAO. I think your reasons for disliking it are many of the reasons why I like it - the shameless silliness of it, the in-your-face sense of humor, and the courage to just be earnest. And I think the boldness of its choices and the wild disparity of its tones is actually quite challenging, so I would not agree that it's a film that just "coddles" the viewer either.
Then we have four decent-to-good films in Avatar, Triangle of Sadness, Top Gun and Women Talking (I have the same issues with the latter as you, but I still appreciate it as pure, cut-the-bullshit ideological debate too).
Then there's All Quiet, which I find somewhat competent but in a very sleep-inducing and uninspired way; and Elvis, which to me is another extremely predictable, Anthony McCarten-esque, I'd-rather-just-read-the-Wikipedia-page musical biopic that just happens to be beefed up by Luhrmann's spectacle (and unlike you, I'm not a fan of his visual antics - at least here).
Two turkeys out of 10 is actually a pretty good ratio as far as Best Picture lineups go, to be honest, so I agree with you that this one is at least above average.
I feel the same way about EEAAO! It has a mix of modernity and sincerity that feels very fresh because of how so much of modern pop culture has been about avoiding sincerity
I preferred the Fabelmans, but I think EEAAO was objectively the best. I also think I’m the only person who absolutely loved Women Talking.
Women Talking is second only to Everything Everywhere All At Once for me . They are easily my favorites . The rest I cared for far less or not at all. I am trying to rank the rest of them but it’s not easy.
very glad to hear someone with a similar reading of elvis, works so much better as a cult of celebrity film with elvis as god than as a music biopic, baz luhrmann’s best in years (although i agree the last third kills it) while i don’t love every film nominated there is certainly lots to appreciate in each nomination so it’s immediately the best list of noms since 2017’s. TÁR should sweep
my ranking:
1. TÁR
2. the fabelmans
3. banshees
4. elvis
5. avatar
6. top gun
7. eeaao
8. women talking
9. triangle of sadness
(haven’t seen all quiet)
Women Talking was really great imo :(. Sad to hear you didn't enjoy. My favorite nominee is Everything Everywhere All At Once easily. Not juts my favorite movie nominated but my favorite movie of 2022
Honestly, I haven't really gotten around to watching the nominees this year. I'm really coming back to cinephilia after about a decade of mostly concentrating on watching anime. At this point I kind of want to balance both hobbies better. I have enjoyed all your videos so far and will keep watching your career with great interest.
i don't have much to offer bc i've only seen everything, everywhere and banshees, but i do agree with your thoughts on both. i think i enjoyed everything, everywhere slightly more than you did, but we are so on the same page when it comes to the humor in the film. it's not for me. it was delightful to see key quan again, as someone who watched the goonies approximately 100 times as a kid. banshees is a beautiful film with beautiful performances that i'd recommend to just about anyone.
i did just recently watch decision to leave, which i thought was pretty brilliant. every detail was so immaculate that i kept rewinding and re-watching scenes trying to pick up on every little thing. and tang wei gave such a compelling performance. i could barely take my eyes off her!
im obsessed with tang wei's performance its easily top 5 of the year, probably my fave next to cate
When you put Women Talking in last place, I was like, "Finally, someone else says what I have been saying since I saw this movie. Agree completely". Then you put Everything Everywhere All At Once in 9th and I was like, "Urge to kill rising!" You gave me whiplash. Everything Everywhere was my #1 movie of last year. To each his own though. Great videos by the way. Keep it up.
Love your videos. Your extensive knowledge of movie and Oscars history is impressive, as a student of the show myself. Even though we disagree on some (I love EEAAO) I really love how you explain what you liked/didn’t like from each nominee. Would be curious for your thoughts on Babylon getting little to no love; I personally loved it.
What a great year for movies! Please keep releasing videos!!
I said love a million times 🙃
loved babylon! like the fabelmans i think its a movie thats been mischaracterized, and its really personal/introspective as opposed to just a send-up of hollywood decadence
honest, intelligent ranking - you’re becoming one of the only people who’s taste I respect when it comes to film criticism (even though that may not be your direct intention); keep the videos coming!
I really like your analysis and thoughtful articulation, I think this past year has been really fantastic! My favorite movie eeoao, but I respect your thoughts. My hot take is that the batman and the menu should have made it in.
I just randomly found your channel and I love it
I have been trying to figure out my feelings about EEAAO and I think you might have sneaked into my head and stolen the thoughts I could not put into words. Really well made ranking.
I really like EEAAO, but I understand the points you raise about it. I think it also makes sense that you mentioned finding the comedy grating because it reminded you of early social media. If you choose to watch it again, I encourage you to try watching it almost like a character study of Evelyn. She's a person who's disconnected from that cultural attitude, who never made the conceptual leap into the Internet Age, and it comes crashing into her life and forces her into action in a way that speaks to a widespread desire for agency in a modern world that often seems to suppress it. I think that's the key to the movie's magic for me; if the protagonist was a young, tuned-in character, I feel like I wouldn't have liked it as much.
thanks! i think thats a compelling way to look at it. i needed it to slow down and flesh out ideas like that in a more focused way, like ive gone back and watched the big climactic moments in isolation and think they work a lot better than when i watched the full thing, when im in the middle of 2+ hours of cutaway gags all of the thematic threads get clouded for me
@@alltalkingpictures Makes total sense!
I would defo say 2019 was better. To me, Parasite, 1917, OUTIH and Marriage Story are pretty much masterpieces
Wow, 4 of your top half is in my bottom half!
1) EEAAO
2) Tàr
3) Women Talking
4) Top Gun: Maverick
5) Triangle of Sadness
6) All Quiet
7) Banshees
8) The Fabelmans
9) Elvis
10) Avatar: The Way of Water
I would love to hear more of your thoughts about Cameron because I just cannot get into any of his films (only haven't seen Titanic, True Lies, and The Abyss)
I think in the future 2022 is gonna be looked at as one of the best "best picture" line-ups ever. One of those "all killer no filler" lists in the vein of 1964, 1972, 1994 and 2007.
I am 8/10 into them with All Quiet and Women Talking to go, but so far the movies I thought I would like exceeded my expectations, the movies I went into determined I was gonna hate (Top Gun) were delightful and moving and my far and away favourites from previous years (Licorice Pizza, The Artist, The Favourite) have several movies on their level.
Elvis, The Fablemans and EEAAO are my favourites this year. Couple try too hard to be "universal stories" but all go off on enough weird, personal tangents for them to feel like the work of artists really nakedly putting themselves out there.
Edit: Also, nothing has brought me more joy this year than the Randy Newman song on the Everything Everywhere soundtrack.
totally, the average quality is really high, like you said i think 2007 is another recent standout, i like 2013, 2015, but this year blows the past 7 years or so out of the water imo
I kinda respect how different your rankings are. I completely disagree often but grey commentary nonetheless. I haven't seen Women Talking yet but my ranking is:
1. EEAAO
2. Tar
3. Triangle of Sadness
4. All Quiet
5. Banshees
6. The Fabelmans
7. Elvis
8. Top Gun: Maverick
9. Avatar 2
Great video!
My personal ranking (very different from yours :) ) is
1. Everything Everywhere All at Once
2. Tar
3. The Banshees of Inisherin
4. Top Gun: Maverick
5. The Fabelmans
6. Women Talking
7. All Quiet on the Western Front
8. Triangle of Sadness
9. Avatar 2
10. Elvis
If I had my way with the nominations, I'd take out the last 3 and slide in RRR, Babylon and Aftersun.
EEAAO felt like I was watching a movie about my Mom (Evelyn in the main timeline; the version without all the powers). It really pushes the limits of what cinema can do. I'm also so happy that a sci-fi movie has won Best Picture.
What are the movies that you would have nominated?
this is one of the rare years where the best picture noms and the movies i love mostly align, so i honestly wouldnt change the lineup that much, i'd remove the bottom 2 from my ranked list and replace those with Babylon and Decision to Leave probably, or Close
Just wanted to say I have really enjoyed your videos and I hope you can find the time to do more.
I discovered your channel today and I love it !!!! It would be cool if you could do analysis of movies, genres of movies, or a large period of movies. Keep going with your videos :))))
I know that this is three months too late, but I just discovered your chanel and really like it. I was kind of surprised how similar our lists are, considering that I originally took you as being very high-brow while I'd consider myself a film populist.
thank you! i do usually skew toward arty stuff but also to me gone with the wind and titanic are both among the top 5 american movies ever made, so i have a real fixation on big popular spectacles too
@@alltalkingpictures Thanks for responding! In your future Oscar breakdowns, do you have any interest in 1952 (High Noon vs. Greatest Show) or 1998 (SPR vs. Shakespeare)?
1952 for sure, since there's a ton to talk about and i'm a big fan of high noon too. 1998 is one of those notorious years so maybe eventually, im just less drawn to recent years since they're more frequently talked about and have been covered already in other places
I thought I was alone when I wasn’t the biggest fan of everything everywhere all at once. Found it off-putting and messy for the most part.
I respect you thinking Charlib dean is the best performance in the film she’s definitely like 3 or 4 for me but woody harlson and Zlatko burik had my favorite dynamic of the year and there delivery of the already hilarious lines was just 😩
Good video! Like somebody else here guessed, I probably got served your first video thanks to my Be Kind Rewind subscription, although I'm subscribed to some other film channels as well.
I feel the same about EEAAO; it didn't match the hype it was getting and that the humor didn't do it for me, and I'm not above low-brow/silly or multiversal stuff (I like the MCU lol, my taste is not so discerning). Nothing about it really resonated with me.
I don't feel as warmly about Tár as you though. It started so strong too; Cate Blanchett just talking about music is something I never knew I needed, and I could've watched two hours each of the interview and Juilliard scenes. Then it got less interesting fast, and at the mid point, when I felt I knew what the conflict of the story was shaping up to be, I just stopped out of disinterest.
So what did I like? Banshees of Inisherin, the Fabelmans and Triangle of Sadness were probably my top three. Banshees has great performances (Keoghan's performance stuck with me especially too), and Triangle just had some quality about it that kept me engrossed the whole way through. I guess I like comedies. The Fabelmans is up there because it's a coming of age story and I'm easy to please that way. I would've put the Whale up there too, Fraser's performance was amazing and I don't care what critics or anyone have to say about the rest of the movie.
even though we don't agree very much on this list, It's very refreshing to see someone who seems to have an actual take. love your videos man
thanks i appreciate it!
My ranking:
1.- EEAAO
2.- Banshees of Inisherin
3.- The Fabelmans
4.- Top Gun: Maverick
5.- Avatar way of water
6.- Triangle of Sadness
7.- Tár
8.- Elvis
9.- AQOTWF
10.- Women Talking
I'm going to go in another direction and state my biggest snub of 2022 : The Northman. This movie should have gotten nominated for its technical aspects at the very least. The set and even the costumes were created with actual experts in Norse architecture and Norse wear to ensure as much accuracy as possible. I would have loved to see all this work be recognized by the Academy.
From the ones I've seen:
1. The Banshees of Inisherin
2. Everything Everywhere all at Once
3.The Fablemens
4.Top Gun Maverick
5. Avatar The Way of Water
That's how many my friend has seen
For now
I found your channel through your first video (think the algorithm boosted it for a lot of people, I also watch a lot of be kind rewinds channel, which covers similar stuff) & love your deep dives. I’ve learned a lot from your channel & hope you do more.
I love how well thought out and researched your videos have been so far. Keep it up.
I enjoyed hearing your thoughts on our current batch of nominees. Surprised by how different our ranking looks but that makes it more interesting honestly. We both agree that this is a strong year for movies. My ranking is…
1. Everything Everywhere All at Once
2. The Banshees of Inisherin
3. Tar
4. All Quiet on the Western Front
5. Women Talking
6. Triangle of Sadness
7. The Fabelmans
8. Top Gun: Maverick
9. Elvis
10. (You do make me feel as though I’m missing out but…) Avatar: The Way of Water
I really liked tar. Saw your video on 72 Oscars. I am renting cabaret tonight. I saw tenet last night at Chinese in Hollyood. They have all the best pictures on the walls. Made me think of this channel.
Banshees of Inisherin was my favorite movie of this lineup. I love the way Martin McDonaugh writes characters and his brand of dark humor just always hits for me. I really wanted it to win original screenplay and supporting actress for Kerry Condon (Jamie Lee Curtis had no business winning that Oscar, she's not even the best supporting actress in her own movie. I'm still mad about it.). Honestly Colin Farrell would've been my pick for best actor as well.
*Totally* agree on Harris Dickinson. If you haven't seen them, I highly recommend _Beach Rats_ and _Postcards from London_ -- at least in order to see him do some terrific acting (and be hawtt).
Also, I love your mashed-up title for this vid.
I think your perspective is kind of opposite to mine in this but I do appreciate your videos very much and your insight on each movie. I still have to see all of the nominees but I can say that after watching EEAAO I got the feeling that there was nothing else quite like it, and its mix of playfulness and seriousness while talking about motherhood and family really hit me.
I also enjoyed triangle of sadness although I think that some scenes could have been better edited. I did not know, however about the reference so I guess it makes sense to not rank it that high. I am kind of a sucker for socioeconomic commentary so yeah, I was happy when parasite won an Oscar and I am not surprised at the amount of praise that EEAAO got. I guess I would have liked for Cate Blanchett to win best actress even tho I didn’t enjoy Tar that much.
I’ll be waiting for your next video, thank you for this ranking!
no offense, but lists like this scare me lol. after scrubbing through, i might have to wait until after the oscars and after #9 wins best picture, just as a superstition thing 🤣🤣
lol i doubt most academy members have a list that looks like this tbh--even though i know there must be some people who really dislike EEAAO and put it at the bottom like me, the amount of #1 votes its getting alone will carry it
YES! NEW ALL TALKING PICTURES
100% agree with #9 ranking. i feel like i didn’t trust myself with this ranking because everyone in the film world loves this movie.
I don’t like Tar the same reason that I don’t like The power of the dog, it represents some personal issues that without the hopeful tones or saccharines retraumatize me.
I totally agree with your EEAAO take, but not entirely with the placement. I wanted so badly to click with the movie, but yeah, it felt totally like 'The Oatmeal.' Generally though, I disagree with your blockbuster placements. While technically impressive, I felt Top Gun and Avatar were soulless husks. My ranking is as follows:
1. Tár
2. Banshees of Innisheran
3. Triangle of Sadness
4. Fablemans
5. All Quiet on the Western Front
6. Women Talking
7. EEAAO
8. Elvis
9. Avatar
10. Top Gun: Maverick
Really liked listening to you talk about these films. I really enjoyed The Banshees of Inisherin and All Quiet on the Western Front. I haven't seen Tar but will have to now!
2022 has been my second favorite Oscars year (2nd only to 2019). Here's my list btw.
1. EEAAO - no words can describe how this movie made me feel!
2. All Quiet on the Western Front
3. Top Gun: Maverick
4. Triangle of Sadness
5. Tar*
6. The Fabelmans*
7. Banshees of Inisherin*
*not a fan of slow-paced films. I would literally doze off.
Haven't seen 3 of the nominees:
Elvis & Women Talking - heard bad reviews but planning to watch it
Avatar: Way of Water - have absolutely no plans of watching it ever. To date, I haven't even watched the first Avatar.
I am interested in the hyper-detailed stuff you are interested. This was great, even if we diverged a few times on movies. You’re 3 for 3. Looking forward to #4.
thanks!! i appreciate it
My biggest problem with the first Avatar was that it is designed to be seen in 3D in the cinema. As someone who already wears glasses the addition of the 3D glasses is at best uncomfortable and by the end of the film impractical. The bridge of my nose simply isn't designed to hold two pairs of glasses for hours.
Hence when a film is designed to be shown in the cinema as 3D, I opt out completely and get my reduced experienced cheaper at home, on a future date. Avatar 2 falls squarely into that category of streaming/TV only movie for me.
I find your comments SO insightful and think you really get to the heart of things which I love!
I also resonate so deeply with your distaste for EEAAO’s brand of maximalist absurdism and I think it’s best seen in Jobu Tupaki’s intro scene. I don’t think we should be using words like “original” to describe an idea of “everything” whose scope feels so limited-namely 1) cringe 2) millennial 3) American. *checks notes* a wrestler, dildo combat, and a samba dancer with the Carmen Miranda banana hat? Not to mention the samba costumes were paired with generic “Latin” stock music which is actually Mexican ranchera music… it all comes across so cursory and soulless to me 😭 it makes me even more upset because the dialogue and exposition going on in the scene is so fun, but I can barely see past the confetti vomit frankly.
Ooh forgot to put my ranking! Haven’t seen Elvis or all quiet, so:
1. Fabelmans
2. Avatar
3. Tar
4. Banshees
5. Top gun
6. Triangle
7. EEAAO
8. Women talking
I actually more or less loved them all though-great year like you mentioned!!
thank you! and this is the first ranking ive seen that looks pretty much like mine lol congrats on being CORRECT!
I knew you were a Tar boy! God I loved that movie! I think you are the only other person that shares my take on Women Talking. I love Sarah Polley and was rooting for her to win all season without seeing the film. Finally, LAST WEEK I watched it on a day my boyfriend was working late and I had had a glass of wine or two and was in the mood to cry it out. I was shocked that a movie with such powerful subject matter could leave me so unaffected. I couldn't believe how stilted and unnatural a lot of the moments were. Ben Whishaw is usually someone I think can do no wrong as an actor but it was painful watching him over act so much--my guess was to make up for how underwritten his character was. The moment where they all laughed felt so forced and written, but I thought all of those actresses were doing their absolute best to sell it. On the plus side, my disappointment over that film helped me to find your channel which I absolutely love! I'm a huge old Hollywood fan and I adore all the detail and passion you put into your videos! Please keep them coming!
Not gonna lie, I loudly gasped at your #9 pick. Definitive disagreements here, but great commentary as expected!
thank you!
For me the best film out of the nominees was The Banshees of Inisherin and also captured a really prominent mindset in our current culture of hopelessness and making fun of it as well.
The other film that captured this sentiment quite well was probably the actual winner EEAAO, but probably won bc it’s much more optimistic and hopeful. I quite enjoyed it too, but I wouldn’t say it’s my favorite of the year looking back.
My actual favorite of the year was probably Babylon or Close.
It’s interesting the critiques you got for women talking and EEAO is the exact criticism I had for avatar 2 and James Cameron entire talent as a filmmaker. To me his direction doesn’t translate to his screenwriting he’s great at world building through the visuals but his screenplays by adding depth and understanding to the world he’s building end up falling extremely flat and clumsy. That’s the opposite I felt EEEAO did the symbolism and maximum usages enhances the story that is depicted, I feel the different from women talking the dialogue and characters actually felt extremely real especially when they tell their monologue the screenwriting feels less like a play or a movie and more like a real life window into a isolated community making a shift.
I do agree with putting banishes and tar in the top 5
I feel like "extreme earnestness" and "irony" are two things that can't coexist, so I find it weird you saw both in EEAAO.
i guess i think the movie plays around with irony throughout (in an unfunny way) before settling on this 3rd act earnestness which is ultimately facile and designed to coddle rather than challenge its audience
Even though I haven't seen Avatar 2, Women Talking or All Quiet on the Western Front. I pretty much agree with the others, I was really disappointed when I watched EEAAO and have the same thoughts as you do. Elvis was fine, Tom Hank's voice over was a pain to get through. Triangle of Sadness was a fun (full) theatre experience. Top Gun: Maverick is good blockbuster filmmaking but that's as much as you'll get out of it.
Banshees sits with you and all four performances are very good, out of the five, Kerry is my personal pick. The Fabelmans is a film that I think was kinda marketed/thought of wrong, it's not too much about the 'magic' of movies but quite a focused look at his upbringing and use of filmmaking because of that. To me, the high school stuff was fleshed out, Chloe East has good comedic timing. Really shocking that Gabriel is not at least nominated for best actor.
TAR is one of the best of the year, it's so carefully crafted and it's one that pulls you in from the first frame. Nina Hoss should should have been nominated instead of Jamie Lee Curtis, her stares tell so much. It seems the Academy isn't too keen on it which is a shame.
Shame Nope wasn't up for at least technical stuff and pitiful that Decision to Leave didn't get nominated for anything.
Thanks for your videos, I really enjoy all that you've talked about so far and I am patiently waiting for more!
yes totally, the fabelmans is much more about the dysfunctional/pathological elements of moviemaking versus just the "magic" of it. and chloe east was also perfect i forgot to mention her!
@@alltalkingpictures that bedroom scene is hilarious as well as when she breaks up with him at prom. i love the cameos from judd hirsch (ordinary people lovers rise) and david lynch. the more i think about it, the more i love it.
I haven’t seen them all but -
6) Top Gun: Maverick
5) Elvis
4) Everything Everywhere All At Once
3) The Banshees of Inisherin
2) All Quiet On The Western Front
1) The Fabelmans
I would like to get to TÁR, Triangle of Sadness and Women Talking at some point, though. I really don’t have much interest in Avatar so I’m really putting that off, I guess. I also disagree that this year was the best in a decade, mostly because I think 2019 was a really strong year but that’s neither here nor there.
Very interesting takes! I dont agree with a lot (EEAAO was a near perfect movie for me and TGM was probably the worst Best Picture nomination ive ever seen) but your points are well reasoned and justified. Excited to watch the rest of your channels!
This all feels like longer than a year ago. I liked the staged artificiality of Women Talking (down to its wooden title) from what I remember, the interest and tension for me was all about the message straining against the form. I watched it on a plane though, was pretty tired, and haven't seen it since. I thought I would have seen all of these nominees by now, but I still haven't seen Elvis or the Fabelmans. And I still haven't seen The Whale.
Just gotta say, for your #9, you're my GOAT, lmao. You more or less described everything that I disliked about this movie in such a succinct way that I was too afraid to say at the time because everyone seemingly loved it.
I was going to subscribe when checking your 1972 Oscars video out, but turns out, I already did!
I have to say, after watching all these videos so far, you are doing fantastic work at diving into these niche elements of Hollywood, particularly its politics and some of its meta trends in relation with history. But something I was very pleasantly surprised with this video is how good your film criticism is. Though I don't share the same love for it as you did (personally Top Gun Maverick was my favorite of the populous blockbusters), it was fascinating to here you argue for Avatar 2 and the brilliance of James Cameron and his ambitions of making sensory loading spectacles. I would love to see you make a video on James Cameron/Avatar or even some occasional reviews or analysis on other films you love. Everything you've made so far is great and I hope you do more soon!
thank you! doing a smaller scale casual set of reviews like this was fun so i'd love to figure out a way to do more of them in between my bigger projects
You’re the only person I’ve been able to find with me who agrees on the fact that Tár was the best of the year, and EEAAO was one of, if not, the worst. I love the long, drawn out overture of Tár which almost acts like a screening mechanism for people who just won’t get it. Only through a neurotic lesbian can this story be delivered to journalists at The Cut and NYT Magazine. (I kind of can’t believe so many critics have it high praise, as it seemed to be a pretty searing indictment of the professional critic class, but whatever). And well said - it very much portrays the kind of culture we live in now and will be such a perfect time capsule for future years to revisit. It is also brilliant to have a lesbian movie without a single sex scene.
Even though there’s some different views than mine, but I understand fully!
BTW, I was so dizzy by the time Elvis ended and it was my least favorite of the best picture 10 but saved me from leaving the thanks to Austin Butler and the costume. Oh Måneskin end credit theme made me happy as a Eurovision fan :)
Top Gun Maverick had the luck to get an 2022 release. People were thinking about war (albeit in Ukraine) and wanted “our side” to win.
I 100% agree that Condon should’ve got Best Supporting Actress. Hands Down.
Im hoping that Everything everywhere all at once wins
Edit: uh uh what
Secret silent 5th letter in an EGOT.
It’d be hilarious if someone actually just commented “I think that you’re stupid”.
That corny ass movie at #9...... get em.... get em for me
Absolutely spot on about Everything Everywhere
Excellent ranking ❤
Do you have a Letterboxd? BC I would definitely follow you on that.
TÁR is literally the best film of the lineup. I'd vote for it in Picture, Director, Actress and Editing.
Thank God it didn't win any Oscar!
I agree with what you said about EEAAO, but at the same time, I'm glad that such a wild movie menaged to win Best Picture. Considering how the Oscars are usually said to be very conservative (genre-wise), it's a good sign that The Academy is now capable of picking something rather unexpected.
My personal ranking (haven't seem Avatar 2):
1. The Banshees of Inisherin
2. Elvis
3. The Fabelmans
4. Tar
5. Everything Everywhere All At Once
6. Triangle of Sadness
7. Top Gun: Maverick
8. All Quiet on The Western Front
9. Women Talking
could not be more in agreement about fabelmans
My list looks PRETTY different, but I get what you’re saying about EEAAO seeming a little behind the curve-I think that’s kinda just the nature of Oscar’s getting made by not gen z maybe? Still love the movie, but I get your point-maybe a little overhyped (but so are a lot of movies that enter the “film bro” canon)
Love the first performance scene in Elvis, love the beach day premiere/hallway scene in Fabelmans, also enjoyed All Quiets score, triangle of sadness is the good version of women talking (a movie version of your favorite literature book)
Can’t get behind avatar because it’s just not my thing (also what’s the deal with all the weird gender stereotypes?? )
But Tar is amazing!! She definitely deserves best actress
Love the variety in this years best pictures-I like the list of 10
LOVE those parts of the fabelmans + elvis. and yes definitely true about EEAAO, it verrrrrry much feels like a product of two millennial directors who saw the rise of facebook/twitter while they were in college, graduated during the recession, etc
ur so real
My ranking is:
1. Tár
2. The Fabelmans
3. Women Talking
4. The Banshees of Inisherin
5. Everything Everywhere All at Once
6. Triangle of Sadness
7. All Quiet on the Western Front
8. Top Gun: Maverick
9. Avatar: The Way of Water
10. Elvis
Your spot on about EEAAO. Watching that for me was akin to being hit over the head non stop with a cast iron frying pan for nearly 2 hours. A kinetic mess.
Just because a film isn’t you doesn’t make it a bad film.
This is my ranking btw if anyone cares 1 year later lol
10.Elvis
9. Triangle of Sadness
8. All Quiet on the Western Front
7. Avatar
6. Women Talking
5. Tar
4. Top Gun
3. Everything Everywhere All At Once
2. The Fabelmans
1. The Banshees of Inisherin
Man, after watching a lot of these, I feel really validated hearing your thoughts of EEAAO, which are similar to mine. It’s a movie I wanted to like so badly but just couldn’t. I think the actors did a great job and love the recognition they’re getting, but the writing was so grating to me, it was one of the worst paced third acts I’ve ever seen in a movie with this much acclaim. It has its merits, but it felt like watching a Rick and Morty episode stretched out to two and a half hours.
yep the third act definitely has like 5 different moments where it feels like it could end but then keeps going
I couldn't agree with your analysis more! Everything Everywhere All At Once totally has a peak millennial/Gen Z social media sensibility which was pretty unbearable to watch. It's the ultimate self-affirmation movie for perpetually online people who wonder why they're depressed all the time. It's going to age about as well as cringey Tumblr posts from 2013. Tar was hands down the best film of the year.
Can’t say how much I appreciate ur videos… even if I TOTALLY disagree with your ratings (Everything Everywhere All at Once is totally YES for me, either Elvis is a totally NOT). Can’t wait for next contents!
I didn't like EEAAO for the exact same reasons-- usually a mismatch in humor is the first thing to put me off of a movie. Also had Women Talking near the bottom though my least favorite of the bunch is Triangle of Sadness. Tar is my favorite & Banshees is a close second. Still need to see Avatar, Elvis, & All Quiet.
Coming by months after the results and I definitely had a different list. I won’t say it’s wrong bc it’s subjective with who they picked BUT I gotta be honest, Avatar at #2 is a choice. I’ll chalk it up to the James Cameron stanning but I personally did not see how Avatar even got a nomination. It really didn’t make sense like even by blockbusters we have had so many spectacle films far more deserving. I heard what you’re coming from but it’s meh
TERRIFIC Channel!!..i will certainly keep coming back for more!!!! keep it up!!!
EEAAO: "... so not for me... grating,.. naval gazing? ." Excuset me while I wash the pretention out of my ears.
01. EEAAO - 9/10
02. The Banshees of Inisherin - 8/10
03. TÁR - 8/10
04. Triangle of Sadness - 5/10
05. All Quiet on the Western Front - 5/10
06. Women Talking - 5/10
07. The Fabelmans - 5/10
08. Avatar:The Way of Water - 5/10
09. Top Gun: Maverick - 5/10
10. Elvis - 4/10
Mad respect putting that god awful eeaao at #9 👏
I know this is a year later and not so relevant but I honestly wonder how the discussion of Women Talking would be if they changed which characters were played by famous actors. I feel like we completely focus on the three women played by famous people and it colors the way people read the movie. I agree, those three women are bland and tropey and all the performances are pretty terrible. But if you look at all the other characters I feel like they do have stronger performances with more nuanced perspectives and they elevate the movie every time Claire Foy seeks to destroy it.
I can watch or hear about movies all day long. Your voice is pleasant and I enjoy your perspective, even when we don’t agree. Great job! 👏👏👏
Everything, Everywhere, All at Once deserved more wins. That said, your analysis on the other movies were wellsaid and has inspired some rewatching
For me it's the exact opposite .The only ones I denfinely lrank high are Everything Everywhere All at Once and Women Talking. I think previous years had a stronger field . My choices for three through seven would rank lower against past nominees .It was also harder to rank the middle of the of the pack.I liked some things about them but overall didn't like them much.
1.Everything Everywhere All At Once
2.Women Talking
3.The Banshees of Inisherin
4. All Quiet On The Western Front
5.Avatar The Way of Water
6. The Fablemans
7.Top Gun Mavrick
8.Elvis
9. Triangle of Sadness
10.Tar
the mindset that "everything is too much" is a very american liberal mindset, completely ignoring any history that may have lead to the current state