travis hylton hmm. What were your stock temps and motherboard? Another user had similar issue where his Asus motherboard wouldn’t do anything to lower the voltages. He has to use method two instead :(
travis hylton what we’re you able to offset your voltage by? -0.075v? Also the chip might be pushing harder since it sense headroom. So although you opened up some temp range it might be reutilizing it to give you more performance. You might want to track your before average frequency and after average frequency. Method 2 will certainly give you better temp results across the board if you are comfortable with that. But you could always modify your fan curve to help improve noise levels too
Thanks! This means a lot to me. I'm excited for the day we blow up haha. I have a lot planned for this channel and am excited to see where we go hahah.
Good information! Honestly didn't even know about this haha. I typically just smash delete sooooo I never searched for other ways to enter the BIOS haha.
Thanks for this comment. I actually learned this a few days ago from another viewer haha. It’s nice to see you guys adding to the value of the video :). Never even knew about that until I saw the other comment too! I get to learn something new every day haha
@@TheCuttz1984 for sure! And yeah its actually super nice. My test bench loads so fast that often times I miss the splash screen to jump in the BIOS so this is def useful lol
@Sabol Anton 84C isn’t even bad man. As long as you’re not very close to the max limit then you’re fine. And considering it’s cinebench, that’s a pretty good max temp. Mine was 86C when I undervolted 0.05 volts, so I decided to just set my Ryzen cpu to eco mode. I didn’t lose too much performance, and I got 76C as my max limit in cinebench multi core. I’d say to do that if undervolting isn’t working for you.
My Ryzen 3600, combined with its stock cooler and MSI B450 A Pro motherboard, was remarkably tolerant to undervolting, and was able to be stable at an offset of -0.125 V. This dropped my peak Cinebench R20 temperature by about 10 degrees, and oddly increased my Cinebench scores a tiny bit. My procedure and results are as follows: No offset: 3514 multi/479 single, peak temp 87.8 C -.05 V: 3501 multi/477 single, peak temp 83.8 C -.0625 V: 3515 multi/477 single, peak temp 82.8 C -.075 V: 3515 multi/480 single, peak temp 81.4 C -.0875 V: 3522 multi/481 single, peak temp 80.5 C -.100 V: 3532 multi/483 single, peak temp 78.9 C -.1125 V: 3532 multi/483 single, peak temp 78.8 C -.125 V: 3540 multi/483 single, peak temp 77.5 C .... but later crashed -.1375 V: crashed to blue screen during Cinebench However, I noticed in HWiNFO that my peak core frequencies were reduced by about 25 MHz across all cores from this undervolt. I’m guessing that in order to achieve those peak boosts of 4150 to 4200 MHz, my CPU required a burst of 1.475 V, and my manual offset limited this to 1.35 V. Nevertheless, this undervolting project was fruitful since I am getting the same performance but with lower temperature. I was also able to run through free PCMark10 software with my -.1125 V undervolt without crashing or performance loss. With regard to manually setting the voltage and frequency, this is something I also experimented with recently, but later decided to undo those changes due to fear of degrading my chip. This was due to a recent video at ruclips.net/video/tXV09dF79Kw/видео.html. My comment on that video was as follows: “Yesterday I discovered that, with my Ryzen 3600 plus its stock cooler, I could achieve the following all-core manual overclocks at the following voltages: 4100 MHz at 1.23125 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3722 with peak temperature of 69.4 C 4150 MHz at 1.26875 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3769 with peak temperature of 74.3 C 4200 MHz at 1.34375 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3806 with peak temperature of 84.9 C Today after watching this video, I removed my all-core overclock and returned to stock. At stock, I get Cinebench scores around 3450 with peak temperature around 80 C. Although I get better performance with all-core OC, I am concerned about the long-term effects of constant voltage, even though my temperature looks cooler. I agree that the way to manage the annoying change in fan RPM is to set my CPU fan to a 75% from 0-70 degrees C, then set it at 100% at 75 degrees C.”
These are great results. I might have another offset method coming in the future that might help your temps even more =) Someone made a comment on this video with some insightful information so I'm testing some stuff to see if it works!! So stay tuned for part 2 perhaps haha.
Niiiice! I got worried when seeing 88°C while playing far cry 4 and borderlands 3. I set the voltage to 1.25 and multiplier to 40. Running at constant 60°C now with the stock cooler. Thank you so much man!
Mines been going from 82-91 so I stopped using my computer for a little bit just cuz I didnt want to damage my new cpu will try this now. I will update you
Thank you.. I used the second method and i am able to reduce the CPU temp from 94 to 77 (max) on cinebench R20..also the benchmark result improved from 3518 to 3575. Changes I did: CPU speed : Increased to 4 Ghz from default 3.6 Ghz CPU voltage: Set to 1.120V My setup: Ryzen 5 3600 MSI B450 Tomahawk max 2X8Gb G.skill 3200mhz RAM RX580 graphics CPU stock cooler ( wraith stealth)
ALL STOCK: oc to 4.1, voltage 1.15, during Cinebench temperature down from max 92 to max 83, score increased from 3534 to 3678. I want to say THANK YOU a lot to take away my OCD to always watching at temperature during game time. Now average temperature during game 60-70, down from 75-90, thanks again!
Now I understand what Jayztwocents meant when he said “overclocking amd can hurt performance”, you explained the single/multi core performance so much better. Thanks!
Jay was referring to overclocking memory/Fclock passed 3733 MHz will have a negative effect on performance. Overclocking your CPU frequency will still give a positive outcome but setting your offset correctly you can overclock all cores to it's known turbo boost.
@@tskraj3190 actually check Gamer nexus, best performance are with fclk to 1900 and memory to 3800mhz and those are my settings, i also gained 20° on load temps bimy son volting my 3600 to 1.16 volt i have all cores at 4200mhs
@@ViperVenoM13 hi bro, could you give me more details on the method you used to make that undervolt and getting 4.2ghz? I'm about to install my 3600x with the freezer esports duo and I doubt I need to touch the cpu ratio since the Temps will be good enough with that cooler
@@jotazrendipia1184 yes if you have a good cooling you can just use PBO with manual value to max . i mut this values 1.225 core volt and 1.11 i hit 4.4 on two cores sometimes more i went down to 1833 fclk and 3666 mhz ram
Thank you so much, funny how easy it was when someone explains to those like that didn't know too much about it. I also have a tomahawk max and a r5 3600x. With 0.0600 V I got about a drop from 74C to 65C which made me really happy. Cinebench was the same. No noticeable difference in games either. You rock man thanks again. You got a subscriber.
@@LehmonMedia So would 0.06v be a good/standard under volt to have set on the 3600x? Have couple pc's but we do use them a bit so just don't really have enough time to run all the test and repeat unfortunately. I do have a 360 aio.. but would still apppreciate the cooler cpu temps. :D
Due to cooler temps and higher core clocks, i immediately saw a 15-20°C drop at idle, 20-30 in games, and ~10fps increase so far. Impressive stuff, thanks a lot man. I was worried I was gonna have to buy a new cpu cooler! Previously, I was getting up to 85-105°C in games. I was getting really worried
Thank you so much, my temps went from 80-85º playing AC: Valhalla to nearly 65º. Quite simple method but yet very effective. Perfect explanation as well. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for this. I did the first one and I am getting 5 degrees less with a ryzen 5 3600. It's not much but it really made a differnce as I am just hovering around 47-58 degrees while browsing and playing Genshin Impact. I'd say the really big difference is the lesser temperature spike that is really common with my cpu
Thank you so much. I had around 80 degrees playing forza 7 with only 20% usage. Stock cooler on 100%. I changed as you said to 3.9ghz and 1.15v and now I have around 55 to 60 degrees even though the cooler runs at around half the speed now. Performance feels the same as before :D
This video saved my life! My Ryzen 5 3600 was shooting up to around 65°-72° in the middle of a game, which was the hottest I’ve seen it get. I ended up using Ryzen master cause I didn’t wanna figure out the bios settings, but now it’s down to low 40s-50s while gaming which is the lowest I’ve seen. I ended up clocking it at 4100mhz & 1.15v. The idle also went from around 45° to mid-low 30s° getting higher scores on cinebench too. I thought my AIO was failing but I guess not. Thing runs ice cold now & haven’t seen much of a performance drop.
Hey man! I actually did see your video and it was a really good too! I get a lot of questions about temps so I figured I'd make a video on it. In fact, I thought it was funny because after I got done writing my script I started doing keyword research (which I typically do before writing my script to make sure it's worth it) and ran into your video. And I was like WHOA... This topic has more interest than I thought and has basically one video specifically on it. And your video had like 40k views on it at the time so I was like the title must be pretty solid... So I mayyyy have borrowed parts of the title haha.. hope you don't mind 😅 Congrats on 1k btw
@@LehmonMedia Dont mind at all! I love the tech community on youtube and really just love adding to the conversation. We can all learn and grow together. at the end of the day its all about our love of tech. And thanks hope both our channels keep growing!
Totally agree man. The tech community rocks. I try to comment here and there to different videos throughout the community. Meet new creators! I’m actually really glad you commented here. I was gonna comment on your video but I wasn’t sure how you’d take it that I was making a similar video haha. But you are right we can all learn from each other and continue to grow and help each other grow 👍🏼👍🏼
@@rub900 some applications may not have the volume to put a large cooler in it. I found it very informative and interesting that it's possible to shave a fair number of degrees c simply by reducing voltage. Perhaps I could recommend a nice video of a baby puking or other such "now this" nonsense since I think that would be more enjoyable to your oxygen deprived mind.
I thought this was clickbait but oh my oh my it actually works. I was surprise by how it went from 95* c to 70* c. Previously, at idle it would be around 78* c. Now, idle is at around 50 - 55* c
hey i also Have ryzen 7 3700x with msi 240r aio and my idle temp usually between 41-55 and At full load its max to 85° at 4ghz!! Is it normal or just fine? Also Its on 1.26 volts!!
@@hritik7080 240 aio and 85 degree at 4ghz lol.. When Gaming It barely Reach 70 degree with 4.1ghz Cooler noctua nh 15 While Benchmarking it shouldnt go above 80 degrer either... However if 1.3volt or plus While benchmarking it should reach 85 degree maybe.. I m Using Arctic Mx 4 paste n Noctua nh1 paste...on Cpu U should Replace paste every 1 year or 10 months
@@AgoxGaming Bro i just build this pc few days ago but i don't know how to Fix this & i know my Aio is good in cooling but don't know how to solve this problem:-( Also Its on 1.26 volts at full load
This is the only video of yours that I've ever watched. Based on this video alone, I've subscribed to your channel. BRAVO! Interestingly, with my Ryzen 7 2700X system, before seeing your video, I pretty much tried both of your approaches. I settled on approach 2. In the multi-week (spare time) experimentation, I learned something quite interesting. Voltage dramatically impacts power draw and temperatures. Load dramatically impacts power and temperatures. Clock speed - not so much. ... Takeaway-I can run reasonably high clock speeds yet power and temps stay quite moderate except under load. With my water cooled 2700X, I ultimately settled on a 4.0 GHz clock speed and a 1.18125 voltage. So far those settings have made my computer COMPLETELY stable. At idle, power consumption vacillates between 9.5 and 14 watts. With a stock configuration, power draw vacillated between 14 and 20 watts. (I WAS SHOCKED.) SHOCKER 2: In stock configuration, a Handbrake load resulted in about a 130 watt draw, an average core clock speed of about 3.95 GHz and maximum temps of about 67 degrees C. Compared to stock my under-volt-overclock runs were just over one percent faster with approximately a 35 watt lower power draw and high core temps about 11 degrees C cooler. Who said there's no free lunch? I got two full sized free lunches plus an appetizer.
Side note: The most intensive load I ever expose my computer to is Handbrake. I don't care whether or not AIDA 64 or Prime 95 would blue screen my computer; I never run them. All my testing was done with Handbrake. For me, qualifying AIDA 64 or Prime 95 stability is unnecessary and would probably have resulted in me running a slightly higher static voltage. Good luck all.
Thanks man =) And I love your thorough testing haha. I totally agree with you on the fact AIDA64/P95 are kind of unnecessary. As long as your system is 100% stable in the applications you use then you are solid IMO The reason I mostly recommend those things in my video is because most new users need it to be 100% and the reason I say this is, they don't know how a blue screen feels haha. Your first ever blue screen and your heart drops into your stomach and you think your PC blew up when in reality it's fine lol. It's even worse if you are in the middle of a game or something. You'd probably be surprised at how many times my buddies have called or texted me freaking out after a blue screen lol. And also thats why I love undervolting. Save yourself heat and power usage while gaining a bit of performance most of the time =)
Thank you for this video. I recently spent 1300$ on a PC and was upset that I couldn't play a lot of the games I love without frying my PC. I set my stuff to 3.9ghz and 1.15v and It lowered my temps by 20c ! Thank you very much because now I don't have to spend a bunch of money on a cooler and I can enjoy more games 😁 subbed!
Great video! I had heard that AMD runs hot so I was expecting high temps. My air-cooled 3950x build was 60 degrees C at idle. Adding another pwm case fan did not help. I have an additional CPU cooler fan in the wings. This is a video editing machine. ASUS x570 BIOS is set to defaults or AUTO. (I wanted nothing to do with overclocking). Temps were starting to peak higher now that spring is here and the room has higher ambient temps. I stumbled upon an article to lower the voltage. Turns out the default/AUTO voltage is 1.4+. The article was about the offset method. I set the BIOS to offset negative by an "AUTO" amount. I didn't know what a good offset was because "every pc is different". Also as I said, I knew about overclocking but nothing about "best practices". Anyway, whatever "AUTO" means, it resulted in 20 degree drop at idle and peaks have been lower. (I have to be vague because I am observing real world temps and work loads which are not repeatable easily) All the content I've read/viewed has said that 1.4 is a ridiculously high voltage that is (probably) used to ensure that there won't be undervoltage instability. So now I find I need/want to know what is happening in the BIOS/chip. This video is one of the better video as it is easily understood and do-able. Thanks
I set my Ryzen 5 3600 (stock cooler) to 4,000mhz and 1.15v. It's stable and dropped my idle CPU temps from 60c to 45c edit: 3,900mhz to 1.18 volts is stable for me too (stock cooler) for a more modest overclock.
Followed step 2 Ryzen-5 3600 stock cooler, MSI B550 Gaming plus MB, Asus 1660 Super build Xigmatek trident case with 4 RGB fans with approximately 30-35°C room temperature (Im living at Middle East). CinebenchR20 with default settings, score was 3464 multicore and 481 single core, CPU temp peaked at 88°C. Cinebench R20 CPU set to 4Ghz and 1.2V, score was 3438 multicore and 459 single core, CPU temp peaked at 76°C. Did Aida64 stress test for 5hrs and system was stable with no error, average temperature during stress test was 85°C on 100% CPU workload. Overall, 12°C decrease in CPU temperature following step 2. Thanks dude. Subscribed.
Your welcome man! Good results! Especially being in a higher ambient area. Your system would be in mid 60s in my area so that's incredible! And you are welcome! Welcome to the community! Feel free to let me know if you have any questions!
hey i got problem with my temp. i use asrock B450 Pro 4 with ryzen 5 3600 with stock AMD cooler. before i reduce the core voltage my temp reach almost to 101°C while normal gaming. and i follow ur step and reduce the voltage to 1.1000 and the clock speed is 4.0 Ghz and now its around 75°C while gaming and 60°C-65°C when idle and for me its still hot. and with my current temp is it affecting my processor long term durability? can u help me with my problem? thanks (and sorry for bad English)
Hey, you really helped me. I were getting 75°C while playing with only a 45% CPU usage. Now i set my r5 3600 at 1.35V and 4.1 GHz and i'm getting 61°C while playing and 72°C at 100%
@@laszlobedo929 Do you have any questions? Depending on your ambient temps that might be pretty decent results. I think you should be able to push that voltage lower (depending on your motherboard) though.
@@LehmonMedia I set this in ryzen master,doesnt in my motherboard (Msi b450 Gaming plus max),i have Zalmann z9 neo case with 5 12cm fans,and Alpenfön Broken Eco Advanced, i bought for the cpu coller a second fan (Arctic bionix P120 ACFAN00116A), just a little strange the same settings and it is looks hot.
Best guide I’ve ever seen to lowering temps simplified. You helped me shed 25 degrees Celsius, while performing better according to cinabench by 250 points
@@LehmonMedia thx so much it works verry stable ım using stock ryzen 3000 cooler even with that cooler its stable also gained extra perfomance ı got higher scores on bench mark test
Randomly stumbled upon this video,I guess it got recommened since I was doing reasearch on this same exact topic couple of weeks ago. Quality is for sure up there with the big channels and I got really surprised when I noticed you replied to every single comment so I decided to give you a like and subscribe.
Haha. Thanks man! Welcome to the community and if there’s anything you’d like to see let me know. I have a long list at this point but I try to cover many topics that you guys have questions on haha :) And I certainly try to answer as much as I can. I won’t lie the last month has been VERY difficult to keep up haha. Buttt I do my best :)
Man, just watched the video and read a bunch of comments and you answer almost every one of them (including the same question over and over) that's really impressive; taking time to answer, that makes you a great person. Thanks for the tips, I'll turn down a little the temps on my 3600 which reaches 80C on some games with stock cooler, not that much of a enthusiast but want to keep lower temps.
Thanks for the compliment but I am just a normal guy trying to help out haha. My goal is to help answer as many questions as I can so you guys can enjoy PCs as much as I do lol! I hope that you get some solid results with the stock cooler and if you have any questions feel free to let me know!
I don't see any offset settings in ASRock B450m Steel Legend. I have an Advanced tab, and an AMD Overclocking tab, but I don't see anything about Offset or any option that let's me change those values.
There is a section under OC Tweaker called "CPU Frequency and Voltage (VID) Change" The Frequency is there to be change. Towards the bottom of OC Tweaker you should see the VCore set to auto which you should be able to change to fixed mode or offset mode. Let me know if that helps. The only ASRock board I have is the B550M Pro4 so the BIOS could be a bit different.
4K may push your GPU a little harder depending on what you are doing which will increase temps on your system. In general though you shouldn't see higher max temps at 4K than at 1080p
I would say not on that. I did my testing that way but it still force's a restart every time you change voltages so you might as well just do it in the bios.
@@hugopolo-lecoffredugeek8318 you can't. You still need to boot into your OS to test. But either way using ryzen master or bios to set you voltage you have to reboot.
I have the same CPU and apparently I'm very lucky. Cause it runs stable at 4.2Ghz all cores with 1.18 CPU core voltage. I have the stock cooler and an MSI x470 Gaming Pro Max motherboard. Stock settings were on 1.38 voltage. Temps went down by 10-12 Celsius. Games like Cyberpunk were running at 70C with spikes on 80+ C. Now it barely exceeds 57C. Thank you very much for this vid! I was going for a better cooler and you just saved me money.
Yeah sounds like you have a solid chip. I get about 4.2Ghz at 1.25v-1.3v on mine, but it could also be your motherboard too being as you have an x470 vs the B450 tomahawk I have. Sometimes the cheaper boards may have more VDROOP under load and so under load it'll make the chip unstable. If your board has a better power delivery you probably don't have as dramatic of a drop as I do and thus gives you better results =D. Glad you were able to get great results though and I hope you have a good time gaming!
I built my first rig two months ago and noticed this too. You can get rid of tradeoff too, if you overclock further. I have a 4,25GHz overclock at 1,20V stable. I use a coolermaster Hyper212 though. I noticed that the cheapest way to cool the system more effectively, is to have more airflow in the room, and having a PC Case that lets much air through (or put some air coolers for 5€ in there). In regular use I don't get more than 70C (doing data analysis).
I agree with that. Having better ambient and better airflow is a great idea! And you are certainly right. If you clock it higher it does remove the single core disadvantage. I'm shocked you got 1.2v stable at 4.25GHz on the 3600. That's pretty good. You ran Prime95/AIDA64 & R20 stress test for a while to confirm stable?
How big a performance drop sets the line? From base line to first iteration with a offset of 0,05V i get a 4,5 C drop but also a drop in performance of 60. Should i go further?
Did you run it multiple times? Often times the first run will not be as good as runs after that. I wouldn't say 60 is a big drop. Kind of within margin of error IMO. You should see a 300+ point drop. That's what I've noticed in my testing.
is it normal for my cpu to jump 10 degrees just doing browsing, ive noticed this. its never 45 then slowly increasing, its always bouncing. stock cooler, when gaming sits around 60 degrees then bounces betwen 60-75. i have not tweaked any other settings. you should make a new video with msi motherboard with all the settings that should be turned on. i dont know what half of them do. like collaborative power and amd quietncold.
I was thinking of doing a more thorough video but wanted to keep it as simple as possible haha. Maybe I’ll make a video series going over each brand motherboards bios :). I think that would help quite a bit for people so great idea. So what have you changed in your settings so far? When core boosting is on (so default or method 1) it can spike hear and there because your cores boost
@@LehmonMedia i appreciate the reply! honestly amd has given me hassle, ive turn precision boost off before and it was nice. the only thing i have changed is the voltage to 1.350 with 3700x. just wish i had someone doing more reviews on the new amd chip/mobo i was so lost when it first came out. i also have the mag ace x570 on ultra COD:warzone i get 144 but in normal multiplayer im hitting 200+ which doesnt make any sense to me. 2070 super and 3700x.
Fernace yeah that would be a great subject to make videos now that you mention it. I’ve never done a motherboard review so maybe I’ll try some in the near future :). Could be a good topic to cover :) And honestly it’s just ryzen 3000. It’s all normal for temps to go up and stuff as it does but I think a lot of the issue lie with fan curves in the bios that aren’t very tailored for each chip like it should be. Like it’s okay for your chip to hit 85C but it’s annoyingly cause fans run up when it does. It’s the cost of having a 7nm chip right now. I hope we see improvements on this (which we likely will) with ryzen 4th gen. Overall though it’s minor growing pains compared to first gen ryzen haha As for warzone it’s just really poorly optimized from my testing. It’s much better since last patch but on my 2060 FE it plays like junk. I have it in my benchmarking videos but I almost scrapped it because it had such bad 0.1% lows at first. Must be how large the map is? I’m not quite sure to be honest lol
Found this video on my home screen. I am going to give it a go on my 3900x. I've been wanting to tame it a bit. Thanks man I am subscribed and looking forward to more quality content!
@@LehmonMedia so I wanted to report with a -.1 offset (and also fixing DRAM voltage) CPU clocks are 4375 in Farcry 5 as I writing this and the Cinebench went up about 175 points on MT. And temps went doen about 7 C. Stoked thanks again awsome bday present lol!
@@basswolf2331 I gave that a try and it tanked my performance. My CPU at load is pulling about 1.4ish with the offset so I think that is the sweet spot for my chip. I was thinking the same thing tho, was kind of surprised how much it hurt my CB score and how low the clocks went down at 1.35 v override
So, after watching it twice, I'm going to try it today. Have already set up the Baseline. Also going to try lowering the PPT. Do you have any suggestions for that?
Ankur Kaushik some people claim it helps. I’ve had nothing but bad experiences with PPT. Mostly losing performance due to it with only decent temp drops. I’m not sure though. I’ve only tested it on like 5 to 10 different boards with the 3600, 3700x, and 3900x so YMMV
Def a huge improvement overall. I am using a 3900x @ 4.4mhz OC, EVGA RTX 2080ti FTW3 Ultra OC, 32GB 3600hz RAM, on an ASUS x570 MB ROG Crosshair VIII Hero. went into the BIOS and set it to CPU Voltage 1.25. Booted up, ran RYZEN Master, changed my profile from Game Mode to Profile 1. Set my Voltage to 1.25v @ 4.4mhz for my CPU. This allowed my cores to go from 6 to 12. In essence ccu0 and ccu1 are now 12 core as intended. After applying and stress testing, booted up, went down 15° and even improved the FPS in CoD Warzone. I'm now stable and running great 4.4mhz at 55° - 61° while gaming and running a few programs. 190-205 fps on CoD Warzone med to high settings. Cinebench R20 score - all cores 6821 (No GPU OC) and 491 for Single Core. Thankyou so much for the info and details. I may leave it as is unless you think I can push the CPU to 4.5 or 4.6 at a slightly higher Voltage but stable and also low temps, let me know, greatly appreciate it
I think I’d keep it where you are now. Going higher would require tons for voltage and I don’t think you’d be comfortable moving that high (not would I). What CPU cooler do you have at this time?
Awesome video man, helped me a lot. Really appreciate it 👍🏽 I also have a R5 3600, I used the first method and dropped my avg cpu temp by 14 degrees Celsius
Just wanted to echo everyone else's comments here... this worked so well for me! I built my first PC 5 days ago with a Ryzen 7 3700x CPU. I found that when playing games (Skater XL especially), the CPU temp was hitting up to 87 degrees! I tweaked my settings using your advice and it's reduced the temp by 20 degrees! Thanks so much 🙏
I don't exactly understand all these results people are finding with undervolting. With my 3600 i set a fixed voltage at 1.2 and set the offset speed to 4200mhz and so far i am receiving better temperatures and a higher cinebench score than when i left everything stock or used PBO.
I'd like to note that single threaded tasks are few and far between. Most games released in the past few years are multithreaded and as soon as you start using more than 1 core, you lose the extra single core boosts.
Eshaan Vasanthakumar seeing your results is a good enough thank you for me :). If you have any friends with a ryzen 3000 series chip feel free to share it to them haha. Thanks buddy and happy gaming’
@@LehmonMedia love your support even after few months. I am from India and it is kind of difficult to find this info there ase everyone is a intel fanboy so I will propagate this as much as possible
Hi. I am from India too. I recently got a R5 3600 CPU and found out that temps go around 75 degrees for some games even on medium settings. Let's say I undervolt the CPU and keep its clock speed as what you've done to lower the temperature, will it deteriorate the CPU over time quickly or further increase its longevity??
@@khunii2188 se like that is the same what happened to me but I undervolting to 1.1 volts and then boosted it to 4gzh. It has reduced the tems for high 70s to hight 50s while gaming and then while cinebench r20 it was at hight 90s and now at low 70s. Undervolting will increase life span as it runs at lower tems and I only over clocked it a little as there was no big diffrebce forn 3.95 volts to 4.gzh
Great video man, great production quality feel! Stumbled on you because I’m doing my first Ryzen 3000 build and was really shocked to see the thermals I am getting over the past Ryzen builds I’ve done.
Yeah thermals are certainly up there haha. The annoying part is when it boosts and temps spike up causing all the fans to ramp up lol And thanks man I appreciate it :)
Hi Guys! @VonTech - great video!! My build: R5 3600 cooled with Cryorig M9a through Grizzly Kryonaut ITX Aorus B540i Pro WIFI RX580 Nitro+ All that stuff packed into Cougar QBX - so it's pretty crowdy. On All auto settings: ambient ~18DegC idle 35 DegC full load 85 DegC Voltage offset (option 1) full load 82-83 DegC Fixed voltage to 1.15V and CPU 3.9GHz (option 2) ambient ~18DegC idle 40 DegC full load 67 DegC I'm stunned! In that build, Ryzen on auto is unusable noise-wise. The temps don't bother me much as it can safely go to 95 DegC according to manual. However, those temps bursts (followed by all fans ramping up RPM) were driving me crazy. PC starting - all fans taking off, Opening Firefox - all fans taking off, opening anything CPU hungry - same story. I tried to solve it with custom fan curves initially but no luck there. Now with option 2 it's all nice cool and quiet! - Thanks VonTech! Some questions: 1. Do you know how exactly those settings impact power consumption? 2. Do those setting degrade silicon faster than normal use? 3. I think the golden bullet here would be to offset V by 0.05-0.075 and limit max auto boost freq to 4.0 from 4.2. Is it possible to apply something like that? Thanks!
This is exactly why I made the video ---> "I'm stunned! In that build, Ryzen on auto is unusable noise-wise. The temps don't bother me much as it can safely go to 95 DegC according to manual. However, those temps bursts (followed by all fans ramping up RPM) were driving me crazy. PC starting - all fans taking off, Opening Firefox - all fans taking off, opening anything CPU hungry - same story. I tried to solve it with custom fan curves initially but no luck there." Fans ramping is so annoying lol. Anyway I'm glad it helped and here are my responses to your questions. 1) I do not know exact numbers but from my testing power consumption actually goes down. SOME Motherboards will actually keep downclocking and lowering voltage if you use an offset voltage. So like you would set a manual cpu ratio and then set an offset voltage instead of manual one where it sets the voltage exactly to the same number as your manual voltage (does that make sense?. Basically if you manually set it to 1.0v, you would then do a offset voltage of -0.1v which would equal 1.0v because the stock voltage is 1.1v). In any case not all motherboards do this and some just do it whether its on offset or manual. If your board does it'll spend less power no matter what, even if it doesn't from my testing, power consumption still goes down. 2) I should really make a video on this by now lol. I have had this question probably 100 times by now lol, but overall no. It will not. I'll leave a link to a good read on how Silicon Degradation happens. The TLDR is it always happens no matter what it just depends on how fast it does and TEMPERATURE is basically main cause. Lower temps should IMPROVE lifespan although you will out grow the chip before it becomes useless. You can also look up electromigration of CPUs. Important too. Degradation: rb.gy/lrcfqk Electromigration: rb.gy/xne6wg 3) I have tested different variations and I couldn't figure that out either because I totally agree with you. Capping the max boost clock would be awesome and much more effective IMO than setting a manual "overclock". If I find something out I'll be sure to let you know haha.
Damn this video is a money saver. Got my 3600 last month and noticed that its 95°C while gaming so I bought a Cooler Master HYPER TX3 EVO and my temps only lowered to 85°C and now during summer my room was like a sauna. I was thinking about buying a more expensive noctua cpu cooler and this video was in my recommended. Now my temps are 60-70°C and not even a performance drop! Thank you so much for this video, really appreciate you :)
Hahah Thanks Nugget! This truly means a lot to me... It takes time to grow and one day we will get there. If my quality ever slips make sure you let me know haha =)
@@conter888 Vcore is set at 1.25 volts. Also before installing the cooler I scraped off the thermal pad, lapped the plate on the cooler, and used artic silver. Other then that, got one front 120mm intake fan, 120mn exhaust fan, and a 80mm on the side cover to pull air out.
I am firmly in the camp of the override/fixed multiplier undervolt - offsets can be stable at full load, but fail at partial load, and there's no way to test this. You just have to wait for the crash. Override mode covers all scenarios - if it's stable with all-core, it'll be stable with single-thread. Just make sure you run your VRM frequencies as high as safely possible (helps with voltage stability), and use MODERATE loadline calibration - enough to give SOME droop when all the cores are loaded (which is why it's crash-proof - single-threaded workloads get very slightly higher volts than multi-threaded.)
You are welcome! I'm glad it helped! Since your temps were hitting 101C I imagine you live in a high ambient temperature area. With that said, I would recommend you invest in something like the Hyper 212 Black Edition as well as do this method to allow you to get more out of your chip. If you don't live in a high ambient temp area, try reseating your CPU cooler... 101C is way high for the stock cooler if your ambient temp is around 23C
@@qcenn Absolutely! Just a suggestion ofc too. I just noticed how hot your system was getting before so I assumed you had like 30C ambient temps and unfortunately with those ambient temps you can only do sooooo much without the better cooling you know? 70C is perfectly safe and honestly you don't really need a cooler with those temps, it just would be helpful is all.
@@LehmonMedia Hi, I recently upgraded from Wraith Prism cooler on Ryzen 5 3600 (stock) cuz of 87C stress test temps to Noctua NH-D15 (reviewed as equal to high end AIO) and my temps are just the same ! This is not my first build and tried reinstalling this cooler several times everytime with new Arctic MX4 (spread across CPU or dot or X) and while Idle it is 46-65 C and under CPU-Z stress bench it hits 87C while Noctua fan spins at 100%. Like have no clue at all what could be wrong but used to have FX8350 at 4,5Ghz with much more TDP paired with basic range air cooler Gelid Tranquillo 7 and temps were like 35-70 C....Please help.
@@Ruthless23fly sounds like a mounting pressure issue. I’ve used coolers a lot less effective and they’ve done much better than that in the 3600 without using these two methods Also you can’t compare CPUs from one gen to another. Especially a 8000 series fx chip. Different architectures different processes make them and so different temps. Like apples to oranges kind of comparison haha.
I did the 1st method offset on my 3700x and i got a roughly 1 Celcius lower temperature (75C to 74C) with a -0.1V offset lol. Although my cinebench score actually did improve a tiny bit, so ill probably just keep it at that. If anyone is wondering, i prefer not to do the 2nd overclock method because ive noticed that PBO in the past has caused my games to crash, i didnt want to bother with that risk. My max cinebnech stress temp is only 75C anyway.
Yeah the first method is really YMMV because of the boosting algorithm. Sometimes you save some, other times it just pushes your chip to higher boost clock speed which doesn’t help with temps. In any case your temps aren’t bad anyways so you really don’t need to do anything if you didn’t want. Also PBO isn’t used in either method. It’s left at auto which is equivalent (from what I can tell) as off
@@LehmonMedia Yea i know PBO isnt technically used but PBO is also an overlock which has caused a lot of trouble for me. I also game almost exclusively anyway so i dont really care about productivity scores but more so single core scores if anything (for games).
I can see you needing single core. I always recommend playing games at stock as well as with a manual clock/undervolt and see what the average drop is (if any). Make sure to do multiple tests to get a good idea too. I’ve found a lot of games wont see much of a fps drop at all and that’s with my 3900x at 4GHz. It’s always going to be up to you and that’s why building PCs and tinkering is so powerful. You get to customize your experience which is boss haha
Dude this is awesome! I built my 1st pc before 2 weeks (ryzen 3600, 2070 super, asrock b450, 275r airflow case ) and couple of days ago thought of doing a stress test and check on the temps, cpu was easily reaching 90 degree, idling at 50 and barely could let myself to complete cinebench with 95 degree! Got 3488 point, after doing your 2nd method heat won't go more than 67 degree!! Which is amazing with the crappy stock cooler (thinking of getting evo 212) there was a drop in cinebench 3366 but wouldn't mind it at all, playing my games with such relief now
@@LehmonMedia thx man, unfortunately couldn't find the evo 212 so i bought thermaletake contactsilent 12, sadly there isn't much of a difference (5 degree or so) but I'm sticking with your method at 3.9ghz running like a beast with temp at 30's
@@youldash1602 Bummer.... I have never tested that cooler but 5C is at least a slight drop. Probably with a quieter fan too... so at least you have that haha.
You got my sub! I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and Hyper EVO 212 Black Edition. I settled at 4.0GHz and 1,2V. Got the score around 3550 and temps peaked on 63C now instead of 77C on stock settings (ambient temps at 19-20C). Much thanks dude!
Would you recommend lowering the PPT with the Ryzen Master to lower the temp? I got a 3300X and found out on a video about this particular CPU optimization from Optimum Tech's channel. He said its better to lower the PPT with Ryzen Master rather than undervolting the 3300X in BIOS to lower the temp as it would give instability.
Naofal Nirvana you could. I haven’t tested PPT all that much yet because when I was testing it it was smashing the performance of my 3600. I have new motherboards coming in so I’ll probably be messing around with it when they get in. Give it a shot and see how it does for you :)
I have a node 202 case and ryzen 5 3600. I was getting 90+ degrees whilst gaming. I have just turned off cpu boost in the bios, locking it to 3.6ghz instead of 4.2ghz and I’m now getting temps of 55!! Absolutely mental reduction, and no ones mentioned it. No FPS decrease either!
That's an easy way of decreasing temps haha. You do lose some performance overall, but if you don't mind or don't notice it in games then it's no big deal! Glad to see you improved your temps =)
i have a ryzen 3 3600 and 1660super. my cpu temp goes high 80s to low 90s. when i made the cpu go 3.9ghz and 1.15v as the video did to himself, will this destroy my cpu faster?
The multicore performance of the 3600 @3.9ghz all core is about equal to stock settings. Single core performance will be impacted a bit but I doubt you’ll notice it in gaming or anything.
Hey man! Do you have a spare card around to use while you wait? It looks like big Navi is supposed to come out end of then year and we don’t even know if it’ll be any good (rumors say it will but we don’t know for sure) Also thanks :)
Couldn't get it but override mode wasn't the solution for me. It changed nothing but doing ofset method my cpu runs faster and -22 cooler even with the -0.500 settings. that was amazing. thx :)
Yeah haha. I learned this from a few other viewers. Never knew that until then and that's the best part of RUclips. You guys learn some stuff and so do I =) It's always awesome to learn new stuff.
If you're afraid on playing around with the BIOS settings, you can still use AMD Ryzen Master software to test things and after you find the ideal settings, apply them on your BIOS. Here's a great video on what I just said: ruclips.net/video/5JTuxMnrqds/видео.html
@@LehmonMedia I tried it out and wasn't getting results. Turned out my case airflow was bad and the stock cooler of my AMD Ryzen 5 3600 wasn't enough. After switching to a Cooler Master Hyper H410R RGB and adding another exhaust fan, temps went down quite a lot when tweaking voltage. I'm running 4GHz at 1.1 Volts.
My CPU was running at 95°C while gaming. Run the OC app on Gigabyte Aouros and it boost my CPU to about 4G and it reduce my temperature by 10 to 20 degrees. Second method works, thanks for your help.
Schmidty_Fps your welcome! I hope it helped a lot! Also it is normal for temps to be higher because of PBO. And it leads you to needing powerful cooling. This just helps a bit with that
Can I use these method using Ryzen Master so I dont need to boot everytime?Then when I am satisfy with the setting then that the time I change it in the UEFI.
This could be a good option for you but keep in mind not all chips will be able to run it at that voltage. You'll have to mess around with it to see how it does for you. In any case these are good guidelines.
For the third method I think to overclock and under volt, if you have Ryzen master you can do it though there instead of bios. So you don’t gotta jump forward and back!
Yeah I like the idea of messing around with it in Ryzen master and then using the settings in the BIOS. I certainly should have mentioned you could do it on ryzen master too!
VonTech Thanks again. I didn’t play around with it though, I just went straight into BIOS and changed to that and it’s stable and I used 3D Mark to run benchmark. Only lost a few points but didn’t really see a difference in gaming.
I tried doing that before this video came out and it didn't help as much so I ended adding 3 more fans to my rig plus a deepcool CPU cooler and now I sit around the 40 to 50s and Max temp is 70
Hi! I've got a 3600 just a week ago. This video is a right on time! So the ambient temperature is around 30 degrees celsius (June in Pakistan). Just installed an H55 Liquid Cooler. Getting an idle temperature of 45 degrees celsius. Gaming temps get to max 80 degrees. All in all, I will definitely try method 1 for sure! Also, are these methods also possible with the Ryzen Master? Does only enabling the 'Precision Boost Overdrive' also help manage temperatures as well? Great content! Thanks for helping the 3600 budget crowd :)
Im glad I posted this at the right time haha and thanks!! =) So Method 1 is NOT possible in Ryzen Master. I found it improved my temps by about 8-10C. You should see similar results I'd imagine (if your board can do a -0.075 offset). Method 2 on the other hand can certainly be done in Ryzen Master. You legit would do the same thing as Method 2 but within the Ryzen Master software. Thinking about it, I should have added that to this video as well haha. Honestly from all the testing I did I'm not even sure what PBO does lol. I know it's supposed to optimize your performance depending on where your temps are at but my systems did NOTHING different when I had PBO enabled or disabled so I'm not sure about that. For you since you live in an area with higher ambient temps, I would probably suggest Method 2. You can try method one to see what it does for you, but since it's a bit hotter in your area getting the lower temps would probably be much better IMO (performance will still be about spot on). I have my testing results in the description box if you need a starting place! Let me know what you end up doing and how it does!
Those temperatures are acceptable. I have an air-cooled 3600 and I live in Florida and we don't run the air conditioner at a very high setting (around 25 celsius). The CPU idles around 40 celsius using the older style copper-bottom Wraith Spire, given those ambient air temperatures.
@@Magnulus76 running a 3700x all core 4.3ghz all the time, stock cooler, idles at around 34C, has never gone over 60C at full bore. Runs fine on a 1.25 vcore stable.
Why do I see allot of people include this comment and in the vid say put it to 4,1GHz and not the boost clock this cpu is "made for " 4,2Ghz ? Ive set my R5 3600 to 1.3V at 4,2 GHZ, the same clock it will boost to stock. Do i miss something here why everyone says put clock on 4,1 instead of 4,2 ? it runs just fine for me
Nothing is wrong with doing that. But that is more like overclocking then. This video is focused on bringing temps down while keeping same performance (or increasing a tad) The problem for the mass majority of people is they don’t like how hot it’s running and how it’s causing their fans to ramp up randomly while doing basic tasks. That as well as they don’t have the cooling power to keep it at 1.3v and 4.2GHz all core overclock. At stock the chip only boosts one core to 4.2Ghz so an all core overclock of 4.2Ghz is much more performance than at stock. And with that likely comes with more heat. I know with the stock cooler and at stock settings my chip will only boost up to around 4025Mhz on all cores (Max). This brings a ton of heat though and a simple 4.1Ghz overclock gives less heat and better thermals Hope this makes sense and feel free to ask any questions if you have any additional ones
@@LehmonMedia Thank you for the fast reply! I get it now although I think I got confused cuz my 3600 got to 4,2 on stock settings and with the stock cooler. thing is on stock voltages it will get 70 - 80 degrees while playing. now ive set it to 1.3V at all core 4,2 and it will get same performance but the temps only go up to 66. so it def brengs down the temps for me at 1.3V at 4.2GHz. Maybe I got luckly with a cpu out of the box with stock cooler that already runned pretty fast, but tbh I thought it was way too hot going up until 80 degrees thats how I came onto your vid!
Yeah if you do single core tasks at stock settings you likely will get that 4.2Ghz for sure with the higher temps. Really just depends how many cores are working so it’s super normal Also I’d make sure you are getting same performance. Run cinebench R20 before and after to ensure similar scores. The ryzen 3000 chips have a “bug” that sometimes they say they are running at 4.2Ghz but the reality is the true speed is 3.9 or 4.0. You only know by running benchmarking software to ensure you aren’t losing performance Also programs like HWinfo have a clock speed number and the “actual” run speed in it
@@LehmonMedia Yea ive done benchmarks before and after, didnt lost performance , only lost about 15 degrees in temps. One thing I dont understand tho is why would AMD do not do this out of the box if this fix is so simple ? its just 2 clicks to breng down the Volt to 1,25 - 1,30V and its solved. again my cores are all running at 4,2GHz set. temps are low on stock cooler. I dont get it how can it be so easy im starting to thinks something isnt right? is it bad for the cpu to run at 4,2GHz / 1.3V all the time ? I mean temps are lower than out of the box so id say no ? but i dont get it why it wont come standart like this then. Thanks in advance for answering this / you have been very helpfull deff deserved a sub ;)
I think AMD likes to caution on the side of having it super stable. They had A LOT of bad years after the FX series was released and they’ve basically been repairing the company up until this point. The big thing here though is motherboard manufacturers not AMD itself. A benefit of having an X570 board (at least a decent one) is that they typically have better voltage management because they were built for the 3000 series and beyond chips. When you go under load on those you typically see voltage drop to like 1.3v which is perfect and doesn’t cause as much heat. My b450 tomahawk is a great board but when I go under load it only drops to 1.38v(ish). That’s a lot of extra voltage for the same chip and means extra heat. To answer your question of if it’s safe. The easy answer is yes. I don’t recommend over like 1.325v-1.35v. But in reality CPU degradation will mostly lie with amount of heat the CPU generations and so the lower your temps the better.
One thing if your playing just games, especially esport games your don't need all 12 threads. Can turn off SMT and get a better overclock, temps, or lower voltages.
I am incredibly late to this and I didnt have to deal with high idle and load temps for a year, but I did. ): Got a new air cooler and case recently and I noticed my temps only dropped a little which disappointed me and led me to this video. This video did wonders to my temps and for that you have my greatest appreciation and a sub. (: The baseline for my Ryzen 5 3600: 73c - 8924 score (multi core) 66c - 1225 score (single core) I went with the 2nd method and got to 1.2000v with clocks set at 4000MHz: 63c - 9273 score (multi core) 58c - 1194 score (single core) I stopped there because I was already happy with the improved temps at 1.2v and I didn't want to keep dropping my single core performance too much. I do have a few questions, if you'll ever see this. My Ryzen 5 3600 had always been running at 4GHz but I don't remember ever changing it. Am I wrong and does the CPU at stock run only at that speed under load? If so, should I raise or lower the speed in my BIOS settings (maybe by like 100MHz increments?). Also, since I stopped decreasing the voltage prematurely, should I keep going lower until my CPU can't handle it anymore or am I good where I am at the moment? Again, thank you so much for this video. Out of the many videos I've seen about improving temps and such, non have made as big of an impact as yours did. For that I am forever grateful.
What type of results did you get from doing these methods? Post your results below so that others can learn from YOUR experiences too! Thanks =)
i did method one on my 3600 (im using hyper 212 cooler) and it only lowered my temps by 2 degrees =( but i did gain 35 pts in multicore performance!
travis hylton hmm. What were your stock temps and motherboard? Another user had similar issue where his Asus motherboard wouldn’t do anything to lower the voltages. He has to use method two instead :(
@@LehmonMedia stock temps were 76 degrees and im running b450 tomahawk max. nzxt h510 case, its a hot box =/
travis hylton what we’re you able to offset your voltage by? -0.075v?
Also the chip might be pushing harder since it sense headroom. So although you opened up some temp range it might be reutilizing it to give you more performance. You might want to track your before average frequency and after average frequency. Method 2 will certainly give you better temp results across the board if you are comfortable with that. But you could always modify your fan curve to help improve noise levels too
@@LehmonMedia yea, i just done that first since you stated it was stable, didnt try to go any further
One day you will see this channel get 100k instantly out of the blue. Keep it up man
Thanks! This means a lot to me. I'm excited for the day we blow up haha. I have a lot planned for this channel and am excited to see where we go hahah.
Hold LEFT SHIFT while selecting the RESTART will take you to the "Choose an option" screen.
Good information! Honestly didn't even know about this haha. I typically just smash delete sooooo I never searched for other ways to enter the BIOS haha.
@@LehmonMedia its not bios. its win10 boot options
Anatolij Sergejev although your statement is true I meant that it can take you to the screen that leads you to the BIOS (like in method 2 haha)
@@LehmonMedia i got that after I watched the video.
before that I thought that you are disinformated
Legend.
Fyi you can hold shift before clicking the restart button. That will bring up recovery options to restart into the bios.
Thanks for this comment. I actually learned this a few days ago from another viewer haha. It’s nice to see you guys adding to the value of the video :). Never even knew about that until I saw the other comment too! I get to learn something new every day haha
@@LehmonMedia thats what its all about my friend. I learnt that from RUclips a while back but yeah use it alot now
@@TheCuttz1984 for sure!
And yeah its actually super nice. My test bench loads so fast that often times I miss the splash screen to jump in the BIOS so this is def useful lol
I dont care about losing a frame or two, I care about cpu not being 80 degrees idle.
Yes YES YES this is true omg thanks !
@Sabol Anton did you guys use this method in the video and did it work for you?
@Sabol Anton 84C isn’t even bad man. As long as you’re not very close to the max limit then you’re fine. And considering it’s cinebench, that’s a pretty good max temp. Mine was 86C when I undervolted 0.05 volts, so I decided to just set my Ryzen cpu to eco mode. I didn’t lose too much performance, and I got 76C as my max limit in cinebench multi core. I’d say to do that if undervolting isn’t working for you.
My Ryzen 3600, combined with its stock cooler and MSI B450 A Pro motherboard, was remarkably tolerant to undervolting, and was able to be stable at an offset of -0.125 V. This dropped my peak Cinebench R20 temperature by about 10 degrees, and oddly increased my Cinebench scores a tiny bit. My procedure and results are as follows:
No offset: 3514 multi/479 single, peak temp 87.8 C
-.05 V: 3501 multi/477 single, peak temp 83.8 C
-.0625 V: 3515 multi/477 single, peak temp 82.8 C
-.075 V: 3515 multi/480 single, peak temp 81.4 C
-.0875 V: 3522 multi/481 single, peak temp 80.5 C
-.100 V: 3532 multi/483 single, peak temp 78.9 C
-.1125 V: 3532 multi/483 single, peak temp 78.8 C
-.125 V: 3540 multi/483 single, peak temp 77.5 C .... but later crashed
-.1375 V: crashed to blue screen during Cinebench
However, I noticed in HWiNFO that my peak core frequencies were reduced by about 25 MHz across all cores from this undervolt. I’m guessing that in order to achieve those peak boosts of 4150 to 4200 MHz, my CPU required a burst of 1.475 V, and my manual offset limited this to 1.35 V. Nevertheless, this undervolting project was fruitful since I am getting the same performance but with lower temperature. I was also able to run through free PCMark10 software with my -.1125 V undervolt without crashing or performance loss.
With regard to manually setting the voltage and frequency, this is something I also experimented with recently, but later decided to undo those changes due to fear of degrading my chip. This was due to a recent video at ruclips.net/video/tXV09dF79Kw/видео.html.
My comment on that video was as follows:
“Yesterday I discovered that, with my Ryzen 3600 plus its stock cooler, I could achieve the following all-core manual overclocks at the following voltages:
4100 MHz at 1.23125 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3722 with peak temperature of 69.4 C
4150 MHz at 1.26875 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3769 with peak temperature of 74.3 C
4200 MHz at 1.34375 volts ---> Cinebench R20 score of 3806 with peak temperature of 84.9 C
Today after watching this video, I removed my all-core overclock and returned to stock. At stock, I get Cinebench scores around 3450 with peak temperature around 80 C. Although I get better performance with all-core OC, I am concerned about the long-term effects of constant voltage, even though my temperature looks cooler. I agree that the way to manage the annoying change in fan RPM is to set my CPU fan to a 75% from 0-70 degrees C, then set it at 100% at 75 degrees C.”
These are great results. I might have another offset method coming in the future that might help your temps even more =) Someone made a comment on this video with some insightful information so I'm testing some stuff to see if it works!! So stay tuned for part 2 perhaps haha.
Thanks man, my 3600 gets upto 90 celcius when gaming and has also hit 💯 s a couple time
@@straightdot is your fan on properly? my cpu was doing that, the clip needs to be latched all the way.
it might feel like you are breaking the lever but it will clip in place.
@@holisticfern i have the fan with screws, not clip one. Anyway i have bought an aftermarket cooler and the temps are now 30-35 C lesser
One of the best videos about vcore offset that i saw until now, thank you
You are welcome! Let me know if you have any questions!
Niiiice! I got worried when seeing 88°C while playing far cry 4 and borderlands 3. I set the voltage to 1.25 and multiplier to 40. Running at constant 60°C now with the stock cooler. Thank you so much man!
Kevin Knoll your welcome! Make sure you do some stress testing to ensure it’s stable :) but overall sounds like you got some great results!
Mines been going from 82-91 so I stopped using my computer for a little bit just cuz I didnt want to damage my new cpu will try this now. I will update you
Thank you.. I used the second method and i am able to reduce the CPU temp from 94 to 77 (max) on cinebench R20..also the benchmark result improved from 3518 to 3575.
Changes I did:
CPU speed : Increased to 4 Ghz from default 3.6 Ghz
CPU voltage: Set to 1.120V
My setup:
Ryzen 5 3600
MSI B450 Tomahawk max
2X8Gb G.skill 3200mhz RAM
RX580 graphics
CPU stock cooler ( wraith stealth)
Awesome man! I'm glad it helped you. If you notice any instability don't be afraid to increase voltage a tad. Some systems need it hah.
ALL STOCK: oc to 4.1, voltage 1.15, during Cinebench temperature down from max 92 to max 83, score increased from 3534 to 3678. I want to say THANK YOU a lot to take away my OCD to always watching at temperature during game time. Now average temperature during game 60-70, down from 75-90, thanks again!
zangorajura glad this helped!!! :) let me know if you have any additional questions
Now I understand what Jayztwocents meant when he said “overclocking amd can hurt performance”, you explained the single/multi core performance so much better. Thanks!
Your welcome! Yeah current gen overclocking is kind of odd lol. Means less work for us if you have really good cooling though lol
Jay was referring to overclocking memory/Fclock passed 3733 MHz will have a negative effect on performance. Overclocking your CPU frequency will still give a positive outcome but setting your offset correctly you can overclock all cores to it's known turbo boost.
@@tskraj3190 actually check Gamer nexus, best performance are with fclk to 1900 and memory to 3800mhz and those are my settings, i also gained 20° on load temps bimy son volting my 3600 to 1.16 volt i have all cores at 4200mhs
@@ViperVenoM13 hi bro, could you give me more details on the method you used to make that undervolt and getting 4.2ghz? I'm about to install my 3600x with the freezer esports duo and I doubt I need to touch the cpu ratio since the Temps will be good enough with that cooler
@@jotazrendipia1184 yes if you have a good cooling you can just use PBO with manual value to max .
i mut this values 1.225 core volt and 1.11
i hit 4.4 on two cores sometimes more
i went down to 1833 fclk and 3666 mhz ram
Thank you so much, funny how easy it was when someone explains to those like that didn't know too much about it. I also have a tomahawk max and a r5 3600x. With 0.0600 V I got about a drop from 74C to 65C which made me really happy. Cinebench was the same. No noticeable difference in games either. You rock man thanks again. You got a subscriber.
I’m glad I was able to help and got some pretty solid results!! Welcome to the community!
@@LehmonMedia So would 0.06v be a good/standard under volt to have set on the 3600x? Have couple pc's but we do use them a bit so just don't really have enough time to run all the test and repeat unfortunately. I do have a 360 aio.. but would still apppreciate the cooler cpu temps. :D
hi oxidhian, is 74c in idle time?? if not what is the temp while idle time.
Man, finally I found one guy that was capable to explain the way to do Under-volt. Congratulation! Cheers!
Thanks :)
Is it an under volt or is it just that the board manufactures are just stock setting the voltages to high?
Due to cooler temps and higher core clocks, i immediately saw a 15-20°C drop at idle, 20-30 in games, and ~10fps increase so far. Impressive stuff, thanks a lot man. I was worried I was gonna have to buy a new cpu cooler!
Previously, I was getting up to 85-105°C in games. I was getting really worried
Thanks for sharing! Glad it helped!
You can get advanced startup by simply holding shift while clicking restart from atart
Thanks for this comment. I didn't know this before I posted the video but I had a few nice viewers (such as yourself) inform me of this!
Thank you so much, my temps went from 80-85º playing AC: Valhalla to nearly 65º. Quite simple method but yet very effective. Perfect explanation as well. Keep up the good work!
Thanks man! Happy gaming!
Was that with the first or second method?
1st or 2nd method?
Thank you for this. I did the first one and I am getting 5 degrees less with a ryzen 5 3600. It's not much but it really made a differnce as I am just hovering around 47-58 degrees while browsing and playing Genshin Impact. I'd say the really big difference is the lesser temperature spike that is really common with my cpu
Glad it helped!
Great Video. Got my temperatures down by 17°C and got a even better score in Cinebench. Keep up the good work. :D
Alexander Zernack im glad it helped :). Happy trails and thanks I plan to haha
Thank you so much. I had around 80 degrees playing forza 7 with only 20% usage. Stock cooler on 100%. I changed as you said to 3.9ghz and 1.15v and now I have around 55 to 60 degrees even though the cooler runs at around half the speed now. Performance feels the same as before :D
Dude Thank you!!
Went from 4868 / 83c to 4939 / 74c with a -0.1500 v offset, -0.1750 wouldnt let me boot into windows.
3800x w/wraith prism
Antonio Vargas glad this helped :). Let me know if you have any questions!
This video saved my life! My Ryzen 5 3600 was shooting up to around 65°-72° in the middle of a game, which was the hottest I’ve seen it get. I ended up using Ryzen master cause I didn’t wanna figure out the bios settings, but now it’s down to low 40s-50s while gaming which is the lowest I’ve seen. I ended up clocking it at 4100mhz & 1.15v.
The idle also went from around 45° to mid-low 30s° getting higher scores on cinebench too. I thought my AIO was failing but I guess not. Thing runs ice cold now & haven’t seen much of a performance drop.
I'm sure it didn't save your life, but I'm glad it helepd haha =)
made a similar video a few months ago, glad to see im not the only one trying to figure out the best way to bring down temps. Great video!!
Hey man! I actually did see your video and it was a really good too! I get a lot of questions about temps so I figured I'd make a video on it.
In fact, I thought it was funny because after I got done writing my script I started doing keyword research (which I typically do before writing my script to make sure it's worth it) and ran into your video. And I was like WHOA... This topic has more interest than I thought and has basically one video specifically on it. And your video had like 40k views on it at the time so I was like the title must be pretty solid...
So I mayyyy have borrowed parts of the title haha.. hope you don't mind 😅
Congrats on 1k btw
@@LehmonMedia Dont mind at all! I love the tech community on youtube and really just love adding to the conversation. We can all learn and grow together. at the end of the day its all about our love of tech. And thanks hope both our channels keep growing!
Totally agree man. The tech community rocks. I try to comment here and there to different videos throughout the community. Meet new creators!
I’m actually really glad you commented here. I was gonna comment on your video but I wasn’t sure how you’d take it that I was making a similar video haha. But you are right we can all learn from each other and continue to grow and help each other grow 👍🏼👍🏼
How about spend the money and get a better cooler. I am blocking this channel and reporting it.
@@rub900 some applications may not have the volume to put a large cooler in it. I found it very informative and interesting that it's possible to shave a fair number of degrees c simply by reducing voltage.
Perhaps I could recommend a nice video of a baby puking or other such "now this" nonsense since I think that would be more enjoyable to your oxygen deprived mind.
I thought this was clickbait but oh my oh my it actually works. I was surprise by how it went from 95* c to 70* c. Previously, at idle it would be around 78* c. Now, idle is at around 50 - 55* c
is 50 - 60 degrees normal at idle for 3600?
@@KobeBryantt237 yes
hey i also Have ryzen 7 3700x with msi 240r aio and my idle temp usually between 41-55 and At full load its max to 85° at 4ghz!!
Is it normal or just fine?
Also Its on 1.26 volts!!
@@hritik7080 240 aio and 85 degree at 4ghz lol.. When Gaming It barely Reach 70 degree with 4.1ghz
Cooler noctua nh 15
While Benchmarking it shouldnt go above 80 degrer either...
However if 1.3volt or plus
While benchmarking it should reach 85 degree maybe..
I m Using Arctic Mx 4 paste n Noctua nh1 paste...on Cpu
U should Replace paste every 1 year or 10 months
@@AgoxGaming Bro i just build this pc few days ago but i don't know how to Fix this & i know my Aio is good in cooling but don't know how to solve this problem:-(
Also Its on 1.26 volts at full load
This is the only video of yours that I've ever watched. Based on this video alone, I've subscribed to your channel. BRAVO!
Interestingly, with my Ryzen 7 2700X system, before seeing your video, I pretty much tried both of your approaches. I settled on approach 2. In the multi-week (spare time) experimentation, I learned something quite interesting. Voltage dramatically impacts power draw and temperatures. Load dramatically impacts power and temperatures. Clock speed - not so much. ... Takeaway-I can run reasonably high clock speeds yet power and temps stay quite moderate except under load.
With my water cooled 2700X, I ultimately settled on a 4.0 GHz clock speed and a 1.18125 voltage. So far those settings have made my computer COMPLETELY stable. At idle, power consumption vacillates between 9.5 and 14 watts. With a stock configuration, power draw vacillated between 14 and 20 watts. (I WAS SHOCKED.)
SHOCKER 2: In stock configuration, a Handbrake load resulted in about a 130 watt draw, an average core clock speed of about 3.95 GHz and maximum temps of about 67 degrees C. Compared to stock my under-volt-overclock runs were just over one percent faster with approximately a 35 watt lower power draw and high core temps about 11 degrees C cooler. Who said there's no free lunch? I got two full sized free lunches plus an appetizer.
Side note: The most intensive load I ever expose my computer to is Handbrake. I don't care whether or not AIDA 64 or Prime 95 would blue screen my computer; I never run them. All my testing was done with Handbrake. For me, qualifying AIDA 64 or Prime 95 stability is unnecessary and would probably have resulted in me running a slightly higher static voltage.
Good luck all.
Thanks man =)
And I love your thorough testing haha. I totally agree with you on the fact AIDA64/P95 are kind of unnecessary. As long as your system is 100% stable in the applications you use then you are solid IMO
The reason I mostly recommend those things in my video is because most new users need it to be 100% and the reason I say this is, they don't know how a blue screen feels haha. Your first ever blue screen and your heart drops into your stomach and you think your PC blew up when in reality it's fine lol. It's even worse if you are in the middle of a game or something. You'd probably be surprised at how many times my buddies have called or texted me freaking out after a blue screen lol.
And also thats why I love undervolting. Save yourself heat and power usage while gaining a bit of performance most of the time =)
But could it handle prime 95?
Thank you for this video. I recently spent 1300$ on a PC and was upset that I couldn't play a lot of the games I love without frying my PC. I set my stuff to 3.9ghz and 1.15v and It lowered my temps by 20c ! Thank you very much because now I don't have to spend a bunch of money on a cooler and I can enjoy more games 😁 subbed!
I'm glad it helped!!! If you have any questions let me know =) Happy gaming my friend!
did you do this using amd master?? im having the same issue..im a first time pc builder/ user.
@@vansiire no
Great video!
I had heard that AMD runs hot so I was expecting high temps. My air-cooled 3950x build was 60 degrees C at idle. Adding another pwm case fan did not help. I have an additional CPU cooler fan in the wings. This is a video editing machine. ASUS x570 BIOS is set to defaults or AUTO. (I wanted nothing to do with overclocking).
Temps were starting to peak higher now that spring is here and the room has higher ambient temps.
I stumbled upon an article to lower the voltage. Turns out the default/AUTO voltage is 1.4+. The article was about the offset method. I set the BIOS to offset negative by an "AUTO" amount. I didn't know what a good offset was because "every pc is different". Also as I said, I knew about overclocking but nothing about "best practices". Anyway, whatever "AUTO" means, it resulted in 20 degree drop at idle and peaks have been lower. (I have to be vague because I am observing real world temps and work loads which are not repeatable easily)
All the content I've read/viewed has said that 1.4 is a ridiculously high voltage that is (probably) used to ensure that there won't be undervoltage instability.
So now I find I need/want to know what is happening in the BIOS/chip.
This video is one of the better video as it is easily understood and do-able.
Thanks
I set my Ryzen 5 3600 (stock cooler) to 4,000mhz and 1.15v. It's stable and dropped my idle CPU temps from 60c to 45c
edit: 3,900mhz to 1.18 volts is stable for me too (stock cooler) for a more modest overclock.
Very underrated channel. This is highly impressive video on voltage tinkering.
Thanks man :). Much appreciated
Followed step 2 Ryzen-5 3600 stock cooler, MSI B550 Gaming plus MB, Asus 1660 Super build Xigmatek trident case with 4 RGB fans with approximately 30-35°C room temperature (Im living at Middle East). CinebenchR20 with default settings, score was 3464 multicore and 481 single core, CPU temp peaked at 88°C. Cinebench R20 CPU set to 4Ghz and 1.2V, score was 3438 multicore and 459 single core, CPU temp peaked at 76°C. Did Aida64 stress test for 5hrs and system was stable with no error, average temperature during stress test was 85°C on 100% CPU workload. Overall, 12°C decrease in CPU temperature following step 2. Thanks dude. Subscribed.
Your welcome man! Good results! Especially being in a higher ambient area. Your system would be in mid 60s in my area so that's incredible!
And you are welcome! Welcome to the community! Feel free to let me know if you have any questions!
hey i got problem with my temp. i use asrock B450 Pro 4 with ryzen 5 3600 with stock AMD cooler. before i reduce the core voltage my temp reach almost to 101°C while normal gaming. and i follow ur step and reduce the voltage to 1.1000 and the clock speed is 4.0 Ghz and now its around 75°C while gaming and 60°C-65°C when idle and for me its still hot. and with my current temp is it affecting my processor long term durability? can u help me with my problem? thanks (and sorry for bad English)
are u replying my comment? i got notification that u replied my comment but nothing here. sorry for that
Hey, you really helped me. I were getting 75°C while playing with only a 45% CPU usage. Now i set my r5 3600 at 1.35V and 4.1 GHz and i'm getting 61°C while playing and 72°C at 100%
In glad I was able to help :) happy trails and feel to let me know if you have any more questions!
Hy. Interested,i have the same settings ryzen r5 3600 1,35v 4,1ghz 100% 79-80 C, playing 72C maximum hard game,lighter about 66C.
@@laszlobedo929 Do you have any questions? Depending on your ambient temps that might be pretty decent results. I think you should be able to push that voltage lower (depending on your motherboard) though.
May i know which method did you used? Is it the first method which is offset?
@@LehmonMedia I set this in ryzen master,doesnt in my motherboard (Msi b450 Gaming plus max),i have Zalmann z9 neo case with 5 12cm fans,and Alpenfön Broken Eco Advanced, i bought for the cpu coller a second fan (Arctic bionix P120 ACFAN00116A), just a little strange the same settings and it is looks hot.
Best guide I’ve ever seen to lowering temps simplified. You helped me shed 25 degrees Celsius, while performing better according to cinabench by 250 points
Thanks man! I’m glad it helped you :)
Omg thx it worked verry well did second method perfect genius idea n also i gaind bit more performance on it (ryzen5)
@@IGD91 Im so glad it helped =) Please let me know if you end up having any questions!
@@LehmonMedia thx so much it works verry stable ım using stock ryzen 3000 cooler even with that cooler its stable also gained extra perfomance ı got higher scores on bench mark test
has this still worked well/ been good for you with the lower voltages ect. knowing that would be amazing
Randomly stumbled upon this video,I guess it got recommened since I was doing reasearch on this same exact topic couple of weeks ago. Quality is for sure up there with the big channels and I got really surprised when I noticed you replied to every single comment so I decided to give you a like and subscribe.
Haha. Thanks man! Welcome to the community and if there’s anything you’d like to see let me know. I have a long list at this point but I try to cover many topics that you guys have questions on haha :)
And I certainly try to answer as much as I can. I won’t lie the last month has been VERY difficult to keep up haha. Buttt I do my best :)
Man, just watched the video and read a bunch of comments and you answer almost every one of them (including the same question over and over) that's really impressive; taking time to answer, that makes you a great person. Thanks for the tips, I'll turn down a little the temps on my 3600 which reaches 80C on some games with stock cooler, not that much of a enthusiast but want to keep lower temps.
Thanks for the compliment but I am just a normal guy trying to help out haha. My goal is to help answer as many questions as I can so you guys can enjoy PCs as much as I do lol!
I hope that you get some solid results with the stock cooler and if you have any questions feel free to let me know!
I don't see any offset settings in ASRock B450m Steel Legend. I have an Advanced tab, and an AMD Overclocking tab, but I don't see anything about Offset or any option that let's me change those values.
There is a section under OC Tweaker called "CPU Frequency and Voltage (VID) Change"
The Frequency is there to be change. Towards the bottom of OC Tweaker you should see the VCore set to auto which you should be able to change to fixed mode or offset mode. Let me know if that helps. The only ASRock board I have is the B550M Pro4 so the BIOS could be a bit different.
Sweet! Great video. Thanks for including the results in the description 👍🏼
Your welcome and I’m glad it helped!! :)
I can totally relate to everything you've said. Does using 4K res increases temps on the CPU and GPU compared to using 1080 res monitor?
4K may push your GPU a little harder depending on what you are doing which will increase temps on your system. In general though you shouldn't see higher max temps at 4K than at 1080p
Isn't it easier to do all the undervolting with the Ryzen Master then copy paste those values to the bios ?
Yeah that’s a good idea 👍🏼. Help you test stuff out and go from there. I like it
I would say not on that. I did my testing that way but it still force's a restart every time you change voltages so you might as well just do it in the bios.
@@viodfirion how do you test temps in the bios ?
@@hugopolo-lecoffredugeek8318 you can't. You still need to boot into your OS to test. But either way using ryzen master or bios to set you voltage you have to reboot.
Holy crap! This works so good! It took 15 degrees off my 3900x! Thank you so much!
Great to hear!
Have a blessed day!
I have the same CPU and apparently I'm very lucky. Cause it runs stable at 4.2Ghz all cores with 1.18 CPU core voltage. I have the stock cooler and an MSI x470 Gaming Pro Max motherboard. Stock settings were on 1.38 voltage. Temps went down by 10-12 Celsius. Games like Cyberpunk were running at 70C with spikes on 80+ C. Now it barely exceeds 57C. Thank you very much for this vid! I was going for a better cooler and you just saved me money.
Yeah sounds like you have a solid chip. I get about 4.2Ghz at 1.25v-1.3v on mine, but it could also be your motherboard too being as you have an x470 vs the B450 tomahawk I have. Sometimes the cheaper boards may have more VDROOP under load and so under load it'll make the chip unstable. If your board has a better power delivery you probably don't have as dramatic of a drop as I do and thus gives you better results =D.
Glad you were able to get great results though and I hope you have a good time gaming!
You can restart into uefi bios by holding shift and pressing restart in normal area. Shortcut to the pc setting method
I have a b450m steel legend mobo and there is no offset option so do I just lower my voltage and set the frequency at what Is stable?
Basically that's what you would do. You'll have to follow the second method in your case.
I have a steel legend too. The bios has it. It's under dram options. It has the image of a file.
I built my first rig two months ago and noticed this too. You can get rid of tradeoff too, if you overclock further. I have a 4,25GHz overclock at 1,20V stable. I use a coolermaster Hyper212 though. I noticed that the cheapest way to cool the system more effectively, is to have more airflow in the room, and having a PC Case that lets much air through (or put some air coolers for 5€ in there). In regular use I don't get more than 70C (doing data analysis).
I agree with that. Having better ambient and better airflow is a great idea!
And you are certainly right. If you clock it higher it does remove the single core disadvantage. I'm shocked you got 1.2v stable at 4.25GHz on the 3600. That's pretty good. You ran Prime95/AIDA64 & R20 stress test for a while to confirm stable?
How big a performance drop sets the line? From base line to first iteration with a offset of 0,05V i get a 4,5 C drop but also a drop in performance of 60. Should i go further?
Did you run it multiple times? Often times the first run will not be as good as runs after that. I wouldn't say 60 is a big drop. Kind of within margin of error IMO. You should see a 300+ point drop. That's what I've noticed in my testing.
@@LehmonMedia i went further down to 0,075 and performance increased without noticeable change in temp, I'll try going lower 👍
is it normal for my cpu to jump 10 degrees just doing browsing, ive noticed this. its never 45 then slowly increasing, its always bouncing. stock cooler, when gaming sits around 60 degrees then bounces betwen 60-75. i have not tweaked any other settings. you should make a new video with msi motherboard with all the settings that should be turned on. i dont know what half of them do. like collaborative power and amd quietncold.
I was thinking of doing a more thorough video but wanted to keep it as simple as possible haha. Maybe I’ll make a video series going over each brand motherboards bios :). I think that would help quite a bit for people so great idea.
So what have you changed in your settings so far? When core boosting is on (so default or method 1) it can spike hear and there because your cores boost
@@LehmonMedia i appreciate the reply! honestly amd has given me hassle, ive turn precision boost off before and it was nice. the only thing i have changed is the voltage to 1.350 with 3700x. just wish i had someone doing more reviews on the new amd chip/mobo
i was so lost when it first came out.
i also have the mag ace x570
on ultra COD:warzone i get 144 but in normal multiplayer im hitting 200+ which doesnt make any sense to me. 2070 super and 3700x.
Fernace yeah that would be a great subject to make videos now that you mention it. I’ve never done a motherboard review so maybe I’ll try some in the near future :). Could be a good topic to cover :)
And honestly it’s just ryzen 3000. It’s all normal for temps to go up and stuff as it does but I think a lot of the issue lie with fan curves in the bios that aren’t very tailored for each chip like it should be. Like it’s okay for your chip to hit 85C but it’s annoyingly cause fans run up when it does.
It’s the cost of having a 7nm chip right now. I hope we see improvements on this (which we likely will) with ryzen 4th gen. Overall though it’s minor growing pains compared to first gen ryzen haha
As for warzone it’s just really poorly optimized from my testing. It’s much better since last patch but on my 2060 FE it plays like junk. I have it in my benchmarking videos but I almost scrapped it because it had such bad 0.1% lows at first. Must be how large the map is? I’m not quite sure to be honest lol
Your video quality gets better and better.
Thanks! I appreciate the kind comment!
Found this video on my home screen. I am going to give it a go on my 3900x. I've been wanting to tame it a bit. Thanks man I am subscribed and looking forward to more quality content!
Thanks man and I hope you get solid results! If there's anything you have questions on or want to see let me know! =)
@@LehmonMedia I really appreciate that 🙏
@@LehmonMedia so I wanted to report with a -.1 offset (and also fixing DRAM voltage) CPU clocks are 4375 in Farcry 5 as I writing this and the Cinebench went up about 175 points on MT. And temps went doen about 7 C. Stoked thanks again awsome bday present lol!
@@EricHostile change cpu voltage from 1.5 to 1.35 = profit
@@basswolf2331 I gave that a try and it tanked my performance. My CPU at load is pulling about 1.4ish with the offset so I think that is the sweet spot for my chip. I was thinking the same thing tho, was kind of surprised how much it hurt my CB score and how low the clocks went down at 1.35 v override
So, after watching it twice, I'm going to try it today.
Have already set up the Baseline.
Also going to try lowering the PPT.
Do you have any suggestions for that?
Ankur Kaushik some people claim it helps. I’ve had nothing but bad experiences with PPT. Mostly losing performance due to it with only decent temp drops. I’m not sure though. I’ve only tested it on like 5 to 10 different boards with the 3600, 3700x, and 3900x so YMMV
Def a huge improvement overall. I am using a 3900x @ 4.4mhz OC, EVGA RTX 2080ti FTW3 Ultra OC, 32GB 3600hz RAM, on an ASUS x570 MB ROG Crosshair VIII Hero. went into the BIOS and set it to CPU Voltage 1.25. Booted up, ran RYZEN Master, changed my profile from Game Mode to Profile 1. Set my Voltage to 1.25v @ 4.4mhz for my CPU. This allowed my cores to go from 6 to 12. In essence ccu0 and ccu1 are now 12 core as intended. After applying and stress testing, booted up, went down 15° and even improved the FPS in CoD Warzone. I'm now stable and running great 4.4mhz at 55° - 61° while gaming and running a few programs. 190-205 fps on CoD Warzone med to high settings. Cinebench R20 score - all cores 6821 (No GPU OC) and 491 for Single Core. Thankyou so much for the info and details. I may leave it as is unless you think I can push the CPU to 4.5 or 4.6 at a slightly higher Voltage but stable and also low temps, let me know, greatly appreciate it
I think I’d keep it where you are now. Going higher would require tons for voltage and I don’t think you’d be comfortable moving that high (not would I). What CPU cooler do you have at this time?
@@LehmonMedia I'm using a NZXT Kraken X73 360mm AIO cooler
Advanced startup can also be obtained by holding SHIFT & clicking on restart. It's that easy.
Awesome video man, helped me a lot. Really appreciate it 👍🏽 I also have a R5 3600, I used the first method and dropped my avg cpu temp by 14 degrees Celsius
Thanks man! I'm glad you found the video helpful and got good results!
has this still worked well/ been good for you with the lower voltages ect. knowing that would be amazing
I have been running my 3900x for a while using this and it has worked very well. It's been quite a while since I set it up.
@@LehmonMedia Hi, what's your 3900x setting? I also have 3900x but your video was using 3600. I want to try it to my PC.
Fiy: you can also shift-press restart to get into the menu for going into the bios
Just wanted to echo everyone else's comments here... this worked so well for me! I built my first PC 5 days ago with a Ryzen 7 3700x CPU. I found that when playing games (Skater XL especially), the CPU temp was hitting up to 87 degrees! I tweaked my settings using your advice and it's reduced the temp by 20 degrees! Thanks so much 🙏
You are welcome! I’m glad it helped :)
Hi do you remember what method and how much of the settings you changed for it, I have the same cpu
I don't exactly understand all these results people are finding with undervolting. With my 3600 i set a fixed voltage at 1.2 and set the offset speed to 4200mhz and so far i am receiving better temperatures and a higher cinebench score than when i left everything stock or used PBO.
I'd like to note that single threaded tasks are few and far between. Most games released in the past few years are multithreaded and as soon as you start using more than 1 core, you lose the extra single core boosts.
The Slightly Hilly Rider this is true and that’s why this method is effective 👍🏼👍🏼😁
Dude how can I thank you
I ran cinebench and was at 95 degrees at 3.95
But now I am at 4 with 1.15 voltes with only 62 degrees
My cpu is ryzen 5 3600
Eshaan Vasanthakumar seeing your results is a good enough thank you for me :). If you have any friends with a ryzen 3000 series chip feel free to share it to them haha. Thanks buddy and happy gaming’
@@LehmonMedia love your support even after few months. I am from India and it is kind of difficult to find this info there ase everyone is a intel fanboy so I will propagate this as much as possible
Hi. I am from India too. I recently got a R5 3600 CPU and found out that temps go around 75 degrees for some games even on medium settings. Let's say I undervolt the CPU and keep its clock speed as what you've done to lower the temperature, will it deteriorate the CPU over time quickly or further increase its longevity??
@@khunii2188 se like that is the same what happened to me but I undervolting to 1.1 volts and then boosted it to 4gzh. It has reduced the tems for high 70s to hight 50s while gaming and then while cinebench r20 it was at hight 90s and now at low 70s. Undervolting will increase life span as it runs at lower tems and I only over clocked it a little as there was no big diffrebce forn 3.95 volts to 4.gzh
@@eshaan1515 Thanks man. Did you do it from the BIOS or from Ryzen Master??
Great video man, great production quality feel! Stumbled on you because I’m doing my first Ryzen 3000 build and was really shocked to see the thermals I am getting over the past Ryzen builds I’ve done.
Yeah thermals are certainly up there haha. The annoying part is when it boosts and temps spike up causing all the fans to ramp up lol
And thanks man I appreciate it :)
Hi Guys!
@VonTech - great video!!
My build:
R5 3600 cooled with Cryorig M9a through Grizzly Kryonaut
ITX Aorus B540i Pro WIFI
RX580 Nitro+
All that stuff packed into Cougar QBX - so it's pretty crowdy.
On All auto settings:
ambient ~18DegC
idle 35 DegC
full load 85 DegC
Voltage offset (option 1)
full load 82-83 DegC
Fixed voltage to 1.15V and CPU 3.9GHz (option 2)
ambient ~18DegC
idle 40 DegC
full load 67 DegC
I'm stunned! In that build, Ryzen on auto is unusable noise-wise. The temps don't bother me much as it can safely go to 95 DegC according to manual. However, those temps bursts (followed by all fans ramping up RPM) were driving me crazy. PC starting - all fans taking off, Opening Firefox - all fans taking off, opening anything CPU hungry - same story. I tried to solve it with custom fan curves initially but no luck there.
Now with option 2 it's all nice cool and quiet! - Thanks VonTech!
Some questions:
1. Do you know how exactly those settings impact power consumption?
2. Do those setting degrade silicon faster than normal use?
3. I think the golden bullet here would be to offset V by 0.05-0.075 and limit max auto boost freq to 4.0 from 4.2. Is it possible to apply something like that?
Thanks!
This is exactly why I made the video ---> "I'm stunned! In that build, Ryzen on auto is unusable noise-wise. The temps don't bother me much as it can safely go to 95 DegC according to manual. However, those temps bursts (followed by all fans ramping up RPM) were driving me crazy. PC starting - all fans taking off, Opening Firefox - all fans taking off, opening anything CPU hungry - same story. I tried to solve it with custom fan curves initially but no luck there."
Fans ramping is so annoying lol.
Anyway I'm glad it helped and here are my responses to your questions.
1) I do not know exact numbers but from my testing power consumption actually goes down. SOME Motherboards will actually keep downclocking and lowering voltage if you use an offset voltage. So like you would set a manual cpu ratio and then set an offset voltage instead of manual one where it sets the voltage exactly to the same number as your manual voltage (does that make sense?. Basically if you manually set it to 1.0v, you would then do a offset voltage of -0.1v which would equal 1.0v because the stock voltage is 1.1v). In any case not all motherboards do this and some just do it whether its on offset or manual. If your board does it'll spend less power no matter what, even if it doesn't from my testing, power consumption still goes down.
2) I should really make a video on this by now lol. I have had this question probably 100 times by now lol, but overall no. It will not. I'll leave a link to a good read on how Silicon Degradation happens. The TLDR is it always happens no matter what it just depends on how fast it does and TEMPERATURE is basically main cause. Lower temps should IMPROVE lifespan although you will out grow the chip before it becomes useless. You can also look up electromigration of CPUs. Important too.
Degradation: rb.gy/lrcfqk
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3) I have tested different variations and I couldn't figure that out either because I totally agree with you. Capping the max boost clock would be awesome and much more effective IMO than setting a manual "overclock". If I find something out I'll be sure to let you know haha.
Damn this video is a money saver. Got my 3600 last month and noticed that its 95°C while gaming so I bought a Cooler Master HYPER TX3 EVO and my temps only lowered to 85°C and now during summer my room was like a sauna. I was thinking about buying a more expensive noctua cpu cooler and this video was in my recommended. Now my temps are 60-70°C and not even a performance drop! Thank you so much for this video, really appreciate you :)
H2 you are welcome :). I’m glad the video was able to help and I wish you happy gaming! Haha
did you do 1st or 2nd method?
Tell me how you have under 600k subs because your channel is the same quality as theirs
Hahah Thanks Nugget! This truly means a lot to me... It takes time to grow and one day we will get there. If my quality ever slips make sure you let me know haha =)
@@LehmonMedia He is right, good quality bro
Craig Walker thabks man much appreciated :)
This guy really points out how helpful offset and override settings are
Thanks :)
I will let BIOS handles everything and i just put ETS-T50 bang for buck heatsink. 4GHZ 65°C max p95 for 30 minutes
3700x 4.3ghz all core all the time, stock cooler, never gets over 60C.
@@michaelkeudel8770 How? What voltage? I have same ryzen 75C when downloading game on steam. Stock cooler and good airflow case.
@@conter888 Vcore is set at 1.25 volts. Also before installing the cooler I scraped off the thermal pad, lapped the plate on the cooler, and used artic silver. Other then that, got one front 120mm intake fan, 120mn exhaust fan, and a 80mm on the side cover to pull air out.
@@michaelkeudel8770 Thank you, I will try.
@@michaelkeudel8770 what motherboard?
I am firmly in the camp of the override/fixed multiplier undervolt - offsets can be stable at full load, but fail at partial load, and there's no way to test this. You just have to wait for the crash.
Override mode covers all scenarios - if it's stable with all-core, it'll be stable with single-thread.
Just make sure you run your VRM frequencies as high as safely possible (helps with voltage stability), and use MODERATE loadline calibration - enough to give SOME droop when all the cores are loaded (which is why it's crash-proof - single-threaded workloads get very slightly higher volts than multi-threaded.)
Went from 75C-85C underload, to 55C underload for my 3700x 👍 My room is finally cool now, thx
Awesome to hear!
Awesome vid. Wasn't able to use my emulator due to scorching high 90 temps. now it sits at 70-75.
I’m glad I was able to help :). Let me know if you have any questions
thank you so much, i searched up this video when i was on gta and i saw my cpu was 101C! now on gta i get 70C!
You are welcome! I'm glad it helped!
Since your temps were hitting 101C I imagine you live in a high ambient temperature area. With that said, I would recommend you invest in something like the Hyper 212 Black Edition as well as do this method to allow you to get more out of your chip.
If you don't live in a high ambient temp area, try reseating your CPU cooler... 101C is way high for the stock cooler if your ambient temp is around 23C
VonTech yeah i’m gonna order it when i have enough money but this still helps alot
@@qcenn Absolutely! Just a suggestion ofc too. I just noticed how hot your system was getting before so I assumed you had like 30C ambient temps and unfortunately with those ambient temps you can only do sooooo much without the better cooling you know? 70C is perfectly safe and honestly you don't really need a cooler with those temps, it just would be helpful is all.
@@LehmonMedia Hi, I recently upgraded from Wraith Prism cooler on Ryzen 5 3600 (stock) cuz of 87C stress test temps to Noctua NH-D15 (reviewed as equal to high end AIO) and my temps are just the same ! This is not my first build and tried reinstalling this cooler several times everytime with new Arctic MX4 (spread across CPU or dot or X) and while Idle it is 46-65 C and under CPU-Z stress bench it hits 87C while Noctua fan spins at 100%. Like have no clue at all what could be wrong but used to have FX8350 at 4,5Ghz with much more TDP paired with basic range air cooler Gelid Tranquillo 7 and temps were like 35-70 C....Please help.
@@Ruthless23fly sounds like a mounting pressure issue. I’ve used coolers a lot less effective and they’ve done much better than that in the 3600 without using these two methods
Also you can’t compare CPUs from one gen to another. Especially a 8000 series fx chip. Different architectures different processes make them and so different temps. Like apples to oranges kind of comparison haha.
I did the 1st method offset on my 3700x and i got a roughly 1 Celcius lower temperature (75C to 74C) with a -0.1V offset lol. Although my cinebench score actually did improve a tiny bit, so ill probably just keep it at that. If anyone is wondering, i prefer not to do the 2nd overclock method because ive noticed that PBO in the past has caused my games to crash, i didnt want to bother with that risk. My max cinebnech stress temp is only 75C anyway.
Yeah the first method is really YMMV because of the boosting algorithm. Sometimes you save some, other times it just pushes your chip to higher boost clock speed which doesn’t help with temps. In any case your temps aren’t bad anyways so you really don’t need to do anything if you didn’t want. Also PBO isn’t used in either method. It’s left at auto which is equivalent (from what I can tell) as off
@@LehmonMedia Yea i know PBO isnt technically used but PBO is also an overlock which has caused a lot of trouble for me. I also game almost exclusively anyway so i dont really care about productivity scores but more so single core scores if anything (for games).
I can see you needing single core. I always recommend playing games at stock as well as with a manual clock/undervolt and see what the average drop is (if any). Make sure to do multiple tests to get a good idea too. I’ve found a lot of games wont see much of a fps drop at all and that’s with my 3900x at 4GHz. It’s always going to be up to you and that’s why building PCs and tinkering is so powerful. You get to customize your experience which is boss haha
Bro you are a life saver, the fans would go to full speed and temp spike to 80c then down to 45. Now it's steady under load.
Glad to hear that =D
Dude this is awesome! I built my 1st pc before 2 weeks (ryzen 3600, 2070 super, asrock b450, 275r airflow case ) and couple of days ago thought of doing a stress test and check on the temps, cpu was easily reaching 90 degree, idling at 50 and barely could let myself to complete cinebench with 95 degree! Got 3488 point, after doing your 2nd method heat won't go more than 67 degree!! Which is amazing with the crappy stock cooler (thinking of getting evo 212) there was a drop in cinebench 3366 but wouldn't mind it at all, playing my games with such relief now
I’m glad it helped and yeah the hyper 212 black edition will help even more! Btw it sounds like you have a pretty nice build so I hope you enjoy it!
@@LehmonMedia thx man, unfortunately couldn't find the evo 212 so i bought thermaletake contactsilent 12, sadly there isn't much of a difference (5 degree or so) but I'm sticking with your method at 3.9ghz running like a beast with temp at 30's
@@youldash1602 Bummer.... I have never tested that cooler but 5C is at least a slight drop. Probably with a quieter fan too... so at least you have that haha.
You got my sub!
I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and Hyper EVO 212 Black Edition.
I settled at 4.0GHz and 1,2V. Got the score around 3550 and temps peaked on 63C now instead of 77C on stock settings (ambient temps at 19-20C). Much thanks dude!
Awesome to hear man! I'm glad you got some solid results!
Welcome to the community! Discord coming soon!! =)
Wow! It literally lower down my cpu temps! Good job!
I'm glad it helped!
Used the method 2, it lower down my temps from 88°c to 74°c. CinebenchR20 score from 3400 to 3500.
Mark Alcantara oh nice! Great 14C drop! You just be stoked haha :)
Would you recommend lowering the PPT with the Ryzen Master to lower the temp? I got a 3300X and found out on a video about this particular CPU optimization from Optimum Tech's channel. He said its better to lower the PPT with Ryzen Master rather than undervolting the 3300X in BIOS to lower the temp as it would give instability.
Naofal Nirvana you could. I haven’t tested PPT all that much yet because when I was testing it it was smashing the performance of my 3600. I have new motherboards coming in so I’ll probably be messing around with it when they get in. Give it a shot and see how it does for you :)
i have the same 3300x my tip to you is buy air cooler and have a poaitive air flow set up it.. from my 70-80 degress to 40 - 60
my 3300x get pretty hot with stock cooler, will undervolt it work? or what worked for you guys?
@@reychua7538 Yeah, I think a lot of people here in the comments are suffering from poor case cooling\pressure calibration.
I have a node 202 case and ryzen 5 3600. I was getting 90+ degrees whilst gaming. I have just turned off cpu boost in the bios, locking it to 3.6ghz instead of 4.2ghz and I’m now getting temps of 55!! Absolutely mental reduction, and no ones mentioned it. No FPS decrease either!
That's an easy way of decreasing temps haha. You do lose some performance overall, but if you don't mind or don't notice it in games then it's no big deal!
Glad to see you improved your temps =)
i have a ryzen 3 3600 and 1660super. my cpu temp goes high 80s to low 90s. when i made the cpu go 3.9ghz and 1.15v as the video did to himself, will this destroy my cpu faster?
The multicore performance of the 3600 @3.9ghz all core is about equal to stock settings. Single core performance will be impacted a bit but I doubt you’ll notice it in gaming or anything.
Bro I've got rx 5700 sapphire pulse do you recommend me sell my card and wait for big navi?
Nice content there.
Hey man! Do you have a spare card around to use while you wait? It looks like big Navi is supposed to come out end of then year and we don’t even know if it’ll be any good (rumors say it will but we don’t know for sure)
Also thanks :)
Don’t sell it! Hold onto it. Unless you already got a new one don’t sell it. Massive shortages on GPUs globally
Couldn't get it but override mode wasn't the solution for me. It changed nothing but doing ofset method my cpu runs faster and -22 cooler even with the -0.500 settings. that was amazing. thx :)
Awesome! I’m glad you were able to save some temps with method one!
I subscribed to him so i can say I’m an og when he hits 1 mil
Hahahha. Thanks man I appreciate it :). Screenshotting this!
Yeet
You can get a bit faster into your bios if you hold shift when you click restart on menu . You will end up in same place
Yeah haha. I learned this from a few other viewers. Never knew that until then and that's the best part of RUclips. You guys learn some stuff and so do I =) It's always awesome to learn new stuff.
Legit got temp down by 7 degrees on multi core benchmark and 11 degrees on single core benchmark also performance increased by 8% . Love it
If you're afraid on playing around with the BIOS settings, you can still use AMD Ryzen Master software to test things and after you find the ideal settings, apply them on your BIOS. Here's a great video on what I just said: ruclips.net/video/5JTuxMnrqds/видео.html
Fisnik Sylka this is a good suggestion and a great video 👍🏼
@@LehmonMedia I tried it out and wasn't getting results. Turned out my case airflow was bad and the stock cooler of my AMD Ryzen 5 3600 wasn't enough. After switching to a Cooler Master Hyper H410R RGB and adding another exhaust fan, temps went down quite a lot when tweaking voltage. I'm running 4GHz at 1.1 Volts.
Finally good explanation.
Юрий Мятлин thanks :)
Simple and concise. Great tutorial!
Thanks :). Much appreciated!
after searching for so long i found this, thank you i can finally enjoy my r5 3500x at 3.9ghz 1.05v
My CPU was running at 95°C while gaming. Run the OC app on Gigabyte Aouros and it boost my CPU to about 4G and it reduce my temperature by 10 to 20 degrees. Second method works, thanks for your help.
I’m glad it helped! And yeah the 3000 series chips run pretty toasty with stock cooler due to the boosting.
This was actually really helpful, thanks heaps. I just recently got the 3700x and x570 ultra my first build and have been stressing about temps.
Schmidty_Fps your welcome! I hope it helped a lot!
Also it is normal for temps to be higher because of PBO. And it leads you to needing powerful cooling. This just helps a bit with that
I got they same setup. Which method did you use?
@@merwinpique I'm using 3700x on msi b550itx board using method 2 with 4.2ghz at 1.2v running all core r23 test my temps dropped from 88C to 74C
Can I use these method using Ryzen Master so I dont need to boot everytime?Then when I am satisfy with the setting then that the time I change it in the UEFI.
Yup. That should work.
Here is my table on my AMD ryzen 5 3600
MHZ V Temp Score
3600 1.2 90 3528
4000 1.2 80 3526
4000 1.15 77 3549
4000 1.125 74 3560
4000 1.1 74 3536
4100 1.25 93 3640
4100 1.15 74 3637
This could be a good option for you but keep in mind not all chips will be able to run it at that voltage. You'll have to mess around with it to see how it does for you. In any case these are good guidelines.
For the third method I think to overclock and under volt, if you have Ryzen master you can do it though there instead of bios. So you don’t gotta jump forward and back!
Yeah I like the idea of messing around with it in Ryzen master and then using the settings in the BIOS. I certainly should have mentioned you could do it on ryzen master too!
My Ryzen 5 3600 is now sitting pretty at 3.9 GHz at 1.15v. Under full load with a H55 AIO cooler I’m at 52c max while gaming. Thanks bud.
Your welcome! Glad you got some great results! Happy gaming!
VonTech Thanks again. I didn’t play around with it though, I just went straight into BIOS and changed to that and it’s stable and I used 3D Mark to run benchmark. Only lost a few points but didn’t really see a difference in gaming.
I tried doing that before this video came out and it didn't help as much so I ended adding 3 more fans to my rig plus a deepcool CPU cooler and now I sit around the 40 to 50s and Max temp is 70
Well I’m sure the fans and cooler will help a lot too. Did you try method two as well? With no luck?
Prateek Bagri that’s not too bad for 4.2GHz. Be careful with voltage though. Not sure where you landed but I don’t recommend being over 1.325-1.35v
the undervolt helped me a lot.
Glad it helped =)
Hi! I've got a 3600 just a week ago. This video is a right on time!
So the ambient temperature is around 30 degrees celsius (June in Pakistan). Just installed an H55 Liquid Cooler. Getting an idle temperature of 45 degrees celsius. Gaming temps get to max 80 degrees.
All in all, I will definitely try method 1 for sure!
Also, are these methods also possible with the Ryzen Master? Does only enabling the 'Precision Boost Overdrive' also help manage temperatures as well?
Great content! Thanks for helping the 3600 budget crowd :)
Im glad I posted this at the right time haha and thanks!! =)
So Method 1 is NOT possible in Ryzen Master. I found it improved my temps by about 8-10C. You should see similar results I'd imagine (if your board can do a -0.075 offset).
Method 2 on the other hand can certainly be done in Ryzen Master. You legit would do the same thing as Method 2 but within the Ryzen Master software. Thinking about it, I should have added that to this video as well haha.
Honestly from all the testing I did I'm not even sure what PBO does lol. I know it's supposed to optimize your performance depending on where your temps are at but my systems did NOTHING different when I had PBO enabled or disabled so I'm not sure about that.
For you since you live in an area with higher ambient temps, I would probably suggest Method 2. You can try method one to see what it does for you, but since it's a bit hotter in your area getting the lower temps would probably be much better IMO (performance will still be about spot on). I have my testing results in the description box if you need a starting place!
Let me know what you end up doing and how it does!
Those temperatures are acceptable.
I have an air-cooled 3600 and I live in Florida and we don't run the air conditioner at a very high setting (around 25 celsius). The CPU idles around 40 celsius using the older style copper-bottom Wraith Spire, given those ambient air temperatures.
@@LehmonMedia Gamers Nexus should have some in depth content explaining PBO criteria and Auto OC
@@Magnulus76 running a 3700x all core 4.3ghz all the time, stock cooler, idles at around 34C, has never gone over 60C at full bore. Runs fine on a 1.25 vcore stable.
Why do I see allot of people include this comment and in the vid say put it to 4,1GHz and not the boost clock this cpu is "made for " 4,2Ghz ?
Ive set my R5 3600 to 1.3V at 4,2 GHZ, the same clock it will boost to stock. Do i miss something here why everyone says put clock on 4,1 instead of 4,2 ? it runs just fine for me
Nothing is wrong with doing that. But that is more like overclocking then. This video is focused on bringing temps down while keeping same performance (or increasing a tad)
The problem for the mass majority of people is they don’t like how hot it’s running and how it’s causing their fans to ramp up randomly while doing basic tasks. That as well as they don’t have the cooling power to keep it at 1.3v and 4.2GHz all core overclock.
At stock the chip only boosts one core to 4.2Ghz so an all core overclock of 4.2Ghz is much more performance than at stock. And with that likely comes with more heat.
I know with the stock cooler and at stock settings my chip will only boost up to around 4025Mhz on all cores (Max). This brings a ton of heat though and a simple 4.1Ghz overclock gives less heat and better thermals
Hope this makes sense and feel free to ask any questions if you have any additional ones
@@LehmonMedia Thank you for the fast reply! I get it now although I think I got confused cuz my 3600 got to 4,2 on stock settings and with the stock cooler. thing is on stock voltages it will get 70 - 80 degrees while playing. now ive set it to 1.3V at all core 4,2 and it will get same performance but the temps only go up to 66. so it def brengs down the temps for me at 1.3V at 4.2GHz. Maybe I got luckly with a cpu out of the box with stock cooler that already runned pretty fast, but tbh I thought it was way too hot going up until 80 degrees thats how I came onto your vid!
Yeah if you do single core tasks at stock settings you likely will get that 4.2Ghz for sure with the higher temps. Really just depends how many cores are working so it’s super normal
Also I’d make sure you are getting same performance. Run cinebench R20 before and after to ensure similar scores. The ryzen 3000 chips have a “bug” that sometimes they say they are running at 4.2Ghz but the reality is the true speed is 3.9 or 4.0. You only know by running benchmarking software to ensure you aren’t losing performance
Also programs like HWinfo have a clock speed number and the “actual” run speed in it
@@LehmonMedia Yea ive done benchmarks before and after, didnt lost performance , only lost about 15 degrees in temps. One thing I dont understand tho is why would AMD do not do this out of the box if this fix is so simple ? its just 2 clicks to breng down the Volt to 1,25 - 1,30V and its solved. again my cores are all running at 4,2GHz set. temps are low on stock cooler. I dont get it how can it be so easy im starting to thinks something isnt right? is it bad for the cpu to run at 4,2GHz / 1.3V all the time ? I mean temps are lower than out of the box so id say no ? but i dont get it why it wont come standart like this then.
Thanks in advance for answering this / you have been very helpfull deff deserved a sub ;)
I think AMD likes to caution on the side of having it super stable. They had A LOT of bad years after the FX series was released and they’ve basically been repairing the company up until this point.
The big thing here though is motherboard manufacturers not AMD itself. A benefit of having an X570 board (at least a decent one) is that they typically have better voltage management because they were built for the 3000 series and beyond chips. When you go under load on those you typically see voltage drop to like 1.3v which is perfect and doesn’t cause as much heat. My b450 tomahawk is a great board but when I go under load it only drops to 1.38v(ish). That’s a lot of extra voltage for the same chip and means extra heat.
To answer your question of if it’s safe. The easy answer is yes. I don’t recommend over like 1.325v-1.35v. But in reality CPU degradation will mostly lie with amount of heat the CPU generations and so the lower your temps the better.
Will this stop my stock 3600x cooler ramping up and down for no reason? The sound is unbareable. Or just buy a new cooler? Thanks man.
@@James-er4si you could go either route. This tends to help it though.
Set mine at 4000mzh at 1.1125, stable at the moment
What chip do you have?
now i need help on HWInfo it says i have around 60/65°C but on speecy it says 110°C :l
help.
You probably are looking at different sensors. The 110C may be the VRM? What is your motherboard?
8 to 10 celsius is a LOT!
One thing if your playing just games, especially esport games your don't need all 12 threads. Can turn off SMT and get a better overclock, temps, or lower voltages.
Good advice. I think this comment can help some people only wanting to game with best temps and such.
Thanks!
I am incredibly late to this and I didnt have to deal with high idle and load temps for a year, but I did. ):
Got a new air cooler and case recently and I noticed my temps only dropped a little which disappointed me and led me to this video. This video did wonders to my temps and for that you have my greatest appreciation and a sub. (:
The baseline for my Ryzen 5 3600:
73c - 8924 score (multi core)
66c - 1225 score (single core)
I went with the 2nd method and got to 1.2000v with clocks set at 4000MHz:
63c - 9273 score (multi core)
58c - 1194 score (single core)
I stopped there because I was already happy with the improved temps at 1.2v and I didn't want to keep dropping my single core performance too much. I do have a few questions, if you'll ever see this. My Ryzen 5 3600 had always been running at 4GHz but I don't remember ever changing it. Am I wrong and does the CPU at stock run only at that speed under load? If so, should I raise or lower the speed in my BIOS settings (maybe by like 100MHz increments?). Also, since I stopped decreasing the voltage prematurely, should I keep going lower until my CPU can't handle it anymore or am I good where I am at the moment?
Again, thank you so much for this video. Out of the many videos I've seen about improving temps and such, non have made as big of an impact as yours did. For that I am forever grateful.