This video is so heart breaking but people are getting it wrong, this vid does not state JYJ as traitors instead it states the struggles Homin had to face as they were called the traitors by Cassies. During the breakup almost 70 % of the fans were against Homin. They were treated horribly by those so-called fans. They had to stay in hiatus for almost 2 years, Yunho said that he saw newer generations didnt recognize them...and so they steped up their game to show people who TVXQ are
SME punished them to make an example to JYJ but those fans you speak of were the reason SME was forced to alllow them to continue their careers. The fans stuck with them even if some left we were too many for SME to ignore so they began to promote again after getting a show for 2 instead of 5.
Siimwe Abooki Stupid... Take you fake ass & go somewhere no one is going to relitigate this 8 year old story. Believe what you want . People lie you are the reason TVXQ receives bad vibes. Most people love and respect them all... just dumb idiots like you are stuck in a hole. Get lost and don''t freakig respond to me again.
Deb Libra Deb Libra lol what are u talking about ? ur not making any sense..... Why the fuck would SM punish Yunho and Changmin for something JYJ did. Homin waited for JYJ for 1.5 years but they didn't come back so they debuted as a duo. SM could never let TVXQ go so easily, they were and still are SMs biggest money maker. I know ur a JYJ fan but stop talking shit about TVXQ. Also there is proof about the entire cosmetic business shit, just cause ur a JYJ fan it doesn't mean u can deny whatever they did. I don't hate JYJ but u can't deny the truth.
Anonymousgirl150 I already told you to get lost. Never going to be able to satisfy your blindness. Go ask Kris, Luhan, Tao, Shinhwa, or Jessica if SM retaliates if you don't bow down to then and just don't freaking respond again. Done with you.
Deb Libra lolololol first you reply to my comment and then when i reply back u tell me to get lost. How about u leave us alone. If you can't deal with the truth then just shut the fuckup and stop commenting in TVXQ vids.
@@Kdrama430 Bcoz JYJ created SHIT by appealing a lawsuit file against SM... But the fact was, JYJ were blindfolded by money n greediness by choosing friends over money... It happens bocz of the FUCKING cosmetic business that JYJ were involved... Their comsetic business company used their band to promote their business including Yun Ho/Chang Min pics... When JYJ were caught by SM, JYJ were told to stop their business... Instead, JYJ went and applied a lawsuit file against SM... This is how the split happens... Blindfolded by money n greediness...
@@tienqin96 wtf do you even know anything? It was because of the slave contract and unfair treatment. If what you said were true they wouldn't have won the lawsuit. SM was and still is a piece of shit, didn't even let them (JYJ) promote in music shows but they still came so far. They still can't perform on music shows but their albums sold more than TVXQ. Stop spreading misinformations, what you said are utter bullshits.
@@Kdrama430 sorry, I'm replying late, I wouldn't have replied if the other person didn't say excessively wrong words. The reason is because of the slave contract, unfair treatment-in one word, mistreatment. We all know how shitty SM is and back in those days, they were more. This is the main reason.
@@tienqin96 lol I'm not a fan of either groups but I like some of their music and no hun, you're the one with wrong facts here. The other two members in TVXQ stayed cause their parents wouldn't let them go (more like didn't allow them to go) cause it would literally risk their careers and SuJu was treated better than TVXQ (the treatment was bad but compared to TVXQ, it was fair enough) And TVXQ got to do everything with their career when JYJ was thrown in Amsterdam and couldn't perform in music shows, appear on variety shows etc. And the way they were treated was dehumanizing. Why would someone take so much mistreatment after 7 years? Can't they put their own life first? Why would that be selfish? Are you telling them to let their life be treated like shit just for some people like you who think they are selfish? How funny and disgusting lmao. And before telling me to go support my "JYJ oppars" know that you're funny asf lol why did you even assume I'm a JYJ fan just cause I said the truth right there? Predatory behaviour lmao. And once again, I'm not a fan of either groups but I like some of their music. And it's you who's barking bullshits worse than animals for your 'oppars'.
I admire Yunho and Changmin. The way they carried themselves through hardship is remarkable. Happy they are doing well now. We stand by you TVXQ. Thanx Viv Cameron and otherss for stating facts and correcting these
i just happened to be here bec i am curious about these two when i watched analog trip.. and this story is amazing.. i am an exol.. and i was broken hearted when three of the members left.. but im still thankful that there are 9 members left.. imagine how these two felt and the fans as well when three of the members left.. 😥 these two are brave souls.. i salute them for standing up to the name of tvxq.. for their dream... for their fans who still believe in them.... you guys have my absolute respect!!
I agree EXO , SUPER JUNIOR, TVXQ and 3 fandoms really went through so hard times and always proving themselves and all are among the biggest biggest group of Kpop
Tea. The true villain is obviously SM. This has happened for so many years. H.O.T, Shinhwa (though the fact they all stayed together was fucking amazing), TVXQ, Super Junior, EXO. Almost everyone.
THAT WOULD BE SME FAULT... JUST LIKE THEY DID TO SHINHWA. THEY BROKE THEM FINANCIALLY WITH SUITS OVER THE NAME. JYJ ACCEPTED THAT THEY MAY NEVER BE ABLE TO PERFORM AGAIN RATHER THAN BE ROBBED AND BULLIED BY SME. HAPPY TVXQ STAYED STRONG AND PROTECTED THE LEGACY OF THE NAME. SORRY FOR THE CAPS... TOO LAZY TO TYPE OVER...LOL.
Deb Libra comparing tvxq to shinhwa as if you know everything about shinhwa, ppfftt 😝 whatever your opinion is, it wont change the fact that yunho & changmin are the one who kept tvxq shining. if not because of them, you wont see tvxq on kpop chart like now. take it.
Siimwe Abooki he/she wont listen to these facts, lets just admire our boys big heart, patient, hardwork, humble, we are forever grateful to have yunho & changmin protect tvxq from vanishing.
I am calling myself a Cassie. And I Love DBSK as 5. I Love TVXQ as 2 and I Love JYJ. Why? Because I love the members, I love their songs. I love them from 2003 to 2015 and not only from 2010-2015. I am fan of Yunho, Changmin, Jaejoong, Junsu and Yoochun. I don't care what happened. I want to support all members. Current and former. In my heart they all are equal.
+TakittixD I think your position is the most honest and generous. 5 guys have moved far ahead and reasonable fans do not need to return to past grievances artists because of their - fans of morbid whim.
Q: Have you ever thought of wanting to go back to your past? C: I feel the same as Yunho. The reason why I’m not interested in going back to the past is not because I’m denying my past, but rather because I feel, “I’m happier now”, “I like this moment more”. -Glamorous May Edition
The first time I watched this video was in 2012. I don't know how much I've been crying that time. I came here all over again and still my heart ache. I'm not even Yunho, Changmin or their acquitances but, I'm hurt. I found myself falling in love with them, over and over again. Today is in December 2015. They're still my number one and only one K-Pop boyband I adore. Because they're righteous. They're truthful. My role models. Waiting for them in 2017. Yunho, Changmin, we're waiting for you always.. please always be healthy there~
I remember the first video I saw of TVXQ! It was March 2016. The video I listened to was Hug, and it was right after I was listening to Replay by SHINee. I'll never forget that day, it's that day that I knew I was staning legends. In less than 8 months I knew everything about them and was caught up on everything I knew. But I still always feel left out. I know some fans were there when the breakup happened and when they had to go through all that hate and I didn't get to feel that with them. But I support JYJ and TVXQ! Especially with TVXQ!s comeback recently, I feel like I am an actual fan now and i truly stan the kings of kpop.😊
:( I miss them as 5. I do support them separately but well.. I wonder if they could still be friends. I mean, no matter which side you take, be it JYJ or HoMin or neutral, you can't disagree that they were pretty good as 5
Actually Mei Lim they were the most successful group in asia as 5 but once they broke apart they were still awesome just 1 is successful but the other has been band from performing in korea.
Been waiting for this kind of comment. I've been reading comments saying that TVXQ songs from 2011 onwards are better and some even saying they don't listen to their old songs anymore. Though I somehow agree with that (since their latest songs were bops), I felt like their harmony as 5 is unmatched. I became a fan when I heard Hug since their harmony is solid. I haven't heard a male Kpop group with such harmony. However, as I watch their new performances of old songs as HoMin, the harmony lacks another voice. Not saying it's bad, HoMin are extremely talented and enjoyable to watch. What I mean is when they sing, since they are a duo now, one has to sing the melody while the other one harmonizes (usually the low harmony). When they were 5, some members sing the melody while some harmonizes - some members sing the high part while the others sing the low part. Meaning, the harmony feels more complete and solid. I seriously miss their OT5 harmony. :(
this is a really beautiful video showing how much homin have gone through and how strong they are. but don't go hating on jyj. yes they signed those contracts, but they were young and stupid. while SM did have a large role in their success, don't even pretend that it wasn't first and foremost for the company's own profit. you can train them and put as much money into them all you want, but in the end, it was the boys' own talent and hard work that got them that success. don't forget that if they didn't succeed, SM would have easily abandoned them in the search of the next big thing. it's so cruel that people expect them to work under ridiculous conditions in the meaning of 'gratitude'. i know that NONE OF YOU HERE would ever work under some shitty boss who treats you like crap, so why would you expect that of them? JYJ have done wonders for the Korean entertainment industry in terms of rights and contracts. So many other idols have gotten out of their unfair terms and slave contracts, so instead of hating on them, you all should be grateful that they had the guts to take a stand. yes homin have had it hard, but so have jyj. i think both sides had different, but still very legitimate, reasons for their actions, and so it's not fair to blame either of them. SM is ultimately the one that broke up this group. They milked TVXQ as their cash cow for all they were worth until jyj couldn't stand it anymore so if it's anybody you should be shaming, it's SM.
If the treatment is inhumane then it's nit proper anymore. I mean yes, they are idol SM paid them but it doesn't mean you need to treat them like a puppet. I mean they are humans, they get tired as humans do, they are not robots.
Looking at most of the comments here. I feel anger and sick, when as Cassiopeia become this? We are here to hear the story of two who held on to the dear life of protecting this precious name we all followed for years. We are not here to fight and to blame each other. If you're a true Cassiopeia, every decision that they make is on them. And we just have to support it. It doesn't mean if you call JYJ or Yunho and Changmin traitors, it'll make you a good person. By turning your back on them, you, yourself has become the traitor instead. We all feel the same and I think we all know each other's feeling more than anyone else's. We're not here taking sides, we're here to hear our oppas' speak. We're Cassiopeia, where is the strong people who are supposed to lean on each other and whose supposed to pat each other in the back when they see and hear unfair things. I know we're not stuck in the past no more, but we're are still the people who still are the guardians of DBSK and JYJ.
First: to compare it with EXO-CBX case, it looks similar but internally different because at least the other members esp the leader know it before the news so actually CBX fight in peace with other EXO members. Second: I think the admin try to show the side of friendship before and after. Obviously on TVXQ case has a basic issue between members, communication. Yeah, their communication were so bad. In my point of view, including my experiences, both are divided into two type of emotions which leads them to different decision and paths. Three: at the end of the day, JYJ against SME are solved by the law and look at how Jaejoongie feels free to mention a lot of SME things, including still calling LeeSoMan in a respective manner. But ironically it's not the same with the members relationship. It feels like JYJ keep blaming the agency for their broke up when the reality is it was their own problem between Yoonho-Changmin with Jaejoong-Junsu-Yoochun. And it looks like that main problem still unsolved till now. It's not like they have a bad relationship but it quite sure that also not a good either. It's hard for me to sense of friendship between the both sides, not even for YoonJae probability. Yoonho and Changmin looks warm but the tragedy looks like make their cold side take over their main actions. They're so calm and cold. Meanwhile on the other side, JYJ looks like in a full anger and conflict with their own mind and decision. Clearly I can see a lot of struggle but because of the hot temper make it harder for them to handle. At the end, mentally JYJ was like drowning into the bad things. And I believe they have a lot of regrets because of the past. It's not about the law suit against SME anymore but it's more into their past story with Yoonho and Changmin aren't going to have any solutions. Four: the silent treatment from Yoonho and Changmin means a lot to explains. Also how the both side like have such agreement to not to mentioning their names anymore as their respect to each other sides. Yoonho and Changmin are like firm that their happiness right now is TVXQ with Yoonho and Changmin without forgetting their past. They're completely moving forward with no regrets anymore and pretty fast if I should compare to Jaejoongie, Junsu, and Yoochun. Five: the separation between Yoonho-Changmin with JYJ becomes their personal problem right now so I hope each fans can understand that and not trying to blame each other also don't play the victim card anymore especially if want to try to drag SME and LSM because obviously it's not relevant anymore. Six: personally I can see the happiness from Changminie and Yoonho also slowly getting much better and his confidence as a leader is back. Then, for the past two years, Jaejoongie looks so much happier than ever since 2010. I think he's finally found something that makes him feels healed. Meanwhile Junsu, hemm.. It's not like he's not moving forward but I think there's something left in his heart that he can't get it out easily. Yoochun, hemmm.. Honestly, I don't know him because I didn't following his career. But I want ro say that he should be more careful about his decision and how to appreciate his successful career. I wish he has some learning more about life from his tragedy at the past. Seven: the key to makes them back together, imho, Yoonho and Jaejoong need to solve their problem first. I can sense a huge disappointments. It feels like Yoonho trust Jaejoongie the most out of members but it broken. Then Jaejoongie can't believe that Yoonho didn't choose him over anyone else. He thought Yoonho will always on his side, no matter he did but it's not because Yoonho is too cold for Jaejoongie melt his heart after the conflict. If only Yoonho and Jaejoongie is clear, it's so possible for TVXQ reunion with 5 members. If still unclear like what happens to them right now, I think it's only a bad idea to keep dreaming them back together. Hehee.. It feels like a divorce. It such a complicated feelings to handle it because keep playing back and forth, replay and forward, forget it and let it go, etc. *ignore me if you disagree because you have your own believe so do I ;)
Seeing how they have struggled through their career to first build up TVXQ, and then see it fall into pieces. Yet again building it up to what it is today. It really rips my heart! You are really something amazing! Thank you for all your efforts to bring the wonderful performances to me! WTG! TVXQ!
I'm a new fan. Thank you for this. Such a great inspiration to always move forward no matter how hard the journey is. Hardwork and passion works. They realy lived up to their name, TVXQ
Thanks Yunho and Changmin for keeping TVXQ name safely until now. It must be hard just to fill the stage with just 2 person. But Cassies are never dissapointed! we love TVXQ forever! Love it whether it is 2 of you or the other 3.. Sending My Precious LOVE to TVfXQ from Malaysia.
My apology for calling Yunho and Changmin, Homin. I got used to it because fans are calling them such. I am a new TVXQ fan and I love this duo.Probably a fan for three years. Yes, I love them as 5 but I love this amazing duo more!Thanks +Slimwe for the enlightenment. I love how they started all over again and came up victorious. I love Yunho's character, one hell of a great guy aside from his amazing talents. TVXQ fighting!!!!
I really cant understand some of the commenters here, this video is about the comeback of tvxq in 2011, it doesn't diss anyone actually, it just presents the story from the point view of yunho and changmin , there are many videos presenting the point of view of jyj , i dont see any "ot5" complaining there. See this is what i call hypocrisy.
+tvxqyunhochangmin forever Its hypocrisy and selectiveness of what information they prefer. They prefer JYJ's version of story so they don't care about JYJ biased videos.
***** I don't care if you take any videos as fact or not. That is not the point here. People have the freedom to make whatever videos they want and no one is forced on them. If you don't like the content you get off the videos instead of complaining about it. The person who made this video is a TVXQ fan and does not care about JYJ or their side of the story.
***** One thing I'm not is ignorant darling. Then protest away stan. It won't make any difference. The person who made this video does not have to support JYJ because they were once TVXQ members. Its funny because the people who protest this video are mainly JYJ biased. So we have JYJ biased stans complaining on a biased TVXQ video with biased TVXQ fans and they can't see the irony lol.
+Siimwe I agree with you. I don't know when you have became a fan but I am considered to be new, and one of the reasons I chose TVXQ! is because of the hypocrisy and double standard in this fandom. LOL, one of the things that pissed me off was when I looked at a video of TVXQ singing one of their old songs and comments like "something is missing" , "poor jyj they cant promote but aktf" , never praising Yunho and Changmin for their hard work, then I went to jyj video singing one of TVXQ's old songs and comments were like " oh' they miss homin, oh they are keeping the faith, well done jyj, f** you sm " ... I mean O.o ... and Jj Lee , everyone knows this video is biased, but no, its not made to deceive people because first it presents facts and second is beacuse JYJ's side is all over RUclips and so many fansites , LOL, I have seen JYJ's side more than TVXQ's while searching about this fandom. and third, don't worry because people like you in the comments will preach every TVXQ fan about JYJ and the way they suffer, some of you guys even promote them in TVXQ videos like KYHD and Catch me, never respecting Yunho and Changmin. Oh, and if you call TVXQ/Tohoshinki/DBSK homin ... then, just please leave with JYJ and leave us and our biased video alone.. BTW, I know so many korean cassies some of them are old and none of them call TVXQ! homin... so just leave like your oppas, you can find a way to move on , like singing parrot or getting a jyj tattoo or a life ...
I love you Jung YunHo babe, and Changmin.. keep safe and healthy, we are waiting for two of you.. no matter what haters said my love for you will never change.. Yunnie my leader i will always here to defend you, just come back safe fighting..
Watching this makes me crying again , I can't imagine how difficult YH & CM at that time especially their position was in danger, shall they continue or not, and change everything from songs, choreography etc. Also their emotional feelings that time, I rlly wanna hug Homin ,that was their hardship to grow agaib as two and makes fans believe in them, they can be exist again like b4, and NOW let's see How wonderful HOMIN is! Even though they've different personality, but their teamwork is amazing & completely each others! I LOVE U BOTH TVXQ! u did well til now..
This is a very touching video about HoMin. We know that 5 of them have had depressing days due to the lawsuit but thank you for creating this video. I had goosebumps! Yunho and Changmin thank you for protecting TVXQ's name. It's been so long how I wish everyone moved on and patch things up and be friends again. Fact is fact. They separated and receive a lot of hatreds. It may be impossible to comeback as 5 again but I don't think it would be too much to hope that they can be friends again even behind the camera right? Besides we all want everyone to be happy for our beloved TVXQ. Cassiopeia was made because TVXQ exists, because five of them exists. Cassiopeia hwaiting! TVXQ hwaiting! :)
ot5, ot2, ot3 used to be a family and I still believe we are a family. why can't we just make a peace between each other?? it doesn't matter who we are supporting because we start as a family and I really hope we will end together as a family. We used to laugh and cry together but why are we fighting now?? It's really depressing to watch ot5,0t2 and ot3 fight and blame each of the idol, calling either side a traitor. we don't even know the exact things that happen back during the lawsuit time. I refuse to believe what media said because they tend to exaggerate things and they are controlled by SM. I'll only believe in what our boys(TVXQ and JYJ) said. I'm really hoping for a reunion to happen because TVXQ as five is the most mind-blowing group that ever exist in KPOP world but I also wouldn't mind if they choose to separate their way until the end because I will still support and love both side. Yunjae reunion in military proved that they already make peace between each other so why can't we as a fans also make a peace?? It doesn't matter if we are ot5,ot2 or ot3 fans because we are still a family.
Sorry, but please don't put all the blame on JYJ.You don't even know what really happened.Jaejoong said, "We are still the member of TVXQ.The 3 of us alone can't be TVXQ.Cassiopeia was created cause' they love TVXQ as a whole, not individual member." So,if you are the real Cassiopeia, you gonna support all of them, wait for them and believe it's not gonna end here.That's what the real meaing behind 'Always Keep The Faith'..
Yuuki Funako I haven't read a comment on this video that puts "all blame" on JYJ. What happens is someone will come and blame TVXQ for something they are not responsible for and TVXQ fans like me will explain how they are not to blame and try to provide evidence with the explanation. JYJ are not still members of TVXQ since they left. Cassiopeia was created for TVXQ. The members of TVXQ decreased from five to two but Cassiopeia is exclusively a TVXQ fan club. Real Cassiopeia are registered fans and no one is going to register for ex members. Don't come on a tvxq fanvid and tell us who real Cassiopeia are and who they should support. You are the one who is mistaken. Cassiopeia is not a fandom that is shared between two groups. It belongs to only one group. JYJ should get their own fandom. JYJ cannot use TVXQ only when it benefits them. When they left they should have understood that they walked out of everything that had to do with TVXQ. The group, the agency, the fan club and all benefits accompanied with TVXQ. It is what they wanted and sued for! You're wrong about aktf and the real meaning behind it. In a 2011 interview with Elle, when asked the meaning of his tattoo and the phrase ‘Always Keep The Faith’, Jaejoong answered: "The ‘Always Keep the Faith’ tattoo I have on the front represents my desire to protect my beliefs"
Sorry if my word hurt you..but,I did say before that everyone had their own right to choose what they want.And I just stated what I know.If you got your own beliefs,continue to follow on what you want.I don't want to start any conflicts between anyone.-thank you
@107789286985472576589 This isn't about my feelings or wanting to start conflicts. You think you can choose whether jyj are tvxq or not? Don't facts matter? They chose to leave the group and their former agency. They filed a lawsuit to void their contracts and isn't that what happened? Neither is Cassopeia their fanclub since they left and formed their own group with a different agency. Those are the facts, whatever you think you chose! The facts are not going to change so don't you think its time you accepted them? Don't you think its time you accepted reality? Stop deluding yourself about who jyj are. And stop calling them tvxq after they left the group and almost completely destroyed it. Yunho and Changmin had to work hard through bashing to bring it to where it is today. Jyj have no claim to tvxq at all since they left. Why do you guys insist on making jyj part of tvxq when they themselves made it clear they wanted no part of it through their actions? Isn't suing to get out of the group and moving on from it very quickly proof enough for you? Whatever jyj say about tvxq or however much they reflect, cry and be emotional about the past their actions say something else.
Yuuki Funako Please just ignore this Siimwe she is the most devoted JYJ antifan , she always spread lies about them she hates them so much you can't imagine , just ignore her because the more you talk to her the more she bash JYJ and spread lies and fake stories about them.
tbh htb You really have to stop yourself from missing me! Try love, all you have to do is try! Oh and btw you are still a liar, hypocrite and trying desperately hard to make TVXQ's achievements JYJ's. Sad, just sad!
New fan since March 2018 here. After reading all the stuff on the internet, I'm glad that I've come to this fandom this late so I can have my own decision: I WILL SUPPORT TVXQ YUNHO & CHANGMIN FOREVER! In March, when I first explored them, I still had sympathy for JYJ (I felt .. uncomfortable when my friend said they left bcuz of money). But the more I read, almost about jyj3, truetvxq, old blogs from 2011 when the likes for JYJ: TVXQ sided comments were obviously ratio 7:3 or 6:4,... the less sympathy I had. Now it is anger tbh. People all say: 3 left because of slave contract, while the other 2 stayed to protect TVXQ name. The fans merely constructed their reasons based on what happened and was told publicly. They never question why they can't protect the name TOGETHER? YH & CM love to be slaves? Think about the alternative reality when truetvxq blog was never published; will Y&C not be exculpated and be cursed because they betrayed the 3? All the "theories" were fabricated; one example was based on frivolous non-existent scenario that 3 risked their lives first then the leader and maknae can go later since they didn't want to hurt the fragile maknae (🙃) They all said they love TVXQ as a whole, blah blah sth like that but it's so contradictory here. Their actions did not match their words and I have to admit I saw that too. YH & CM just renewed their contracts after enlistment. After 15 years, it was the best time to leave that so-called hell dungeon but they didn't. I just try to think this simple: From the beginning, they did not have the same goals and it was inevitable to have a split. It is also more reasonable currently because Yunho just said in Dunia TV show that he has no interest in investing for buildings but to build schools. It's consistent with what has happened so far. And yes, down to the earth, it was the only choice. Now both parties have their own paths. TVXQ's current music has developed from concepts, to voices, etc. that suit them as duo a lot (I mean Begin Again tour and TCOL concepts,...), and they've also sung good old songs perfectly together so I just hope they'd continue with that and develop more. One thing I noticed, when we compliment TVXQ for the achievements they two just gained recently, some people always jump in and say JYJCJ or AKTF sth like that. When TVXQ's fans ask for respect, they always say TVXQ is group created by 5 members whatever... I was like: What! That is the achievements of YH & CM apparently. Tohoshinki's tour DVDs write their two names only with the staff. Two of them stood on the stage. I wonder when you apply for a job, the employer asks you for the experience you've had recently or from 10 years ago. It's a simple reality because those recent experiences shape and influence you the most so please don't mention sth 10 years ago freely. It's like you went out off a company 10 years ago but keep bragging about it at your top line in resume, maybe because the recent incredible sales the company has or you've done nothing remarkable in those 10 years? Let's say experience from 10 years shaped you significantly somehow (some will say beautiful brotherhood memories, blah blah 😕), but the employer will criticize that with such huge achievement of that 10 years ago, you've not done something to prove that? Now those fans will keep defending with sth like they're banned, TVXQ got backed up by big company, mention dozens of awards they've received recently which I found banal enough... Well, it's a vicious circle but I managed to break it when I saw TVXQ YH & CM's actions. You expected those hardships when leaving so cope with it, not an excuse. People believed 3 would definitely succeed than 2, right? I've never seen any TVXQ's fan, including me, denied the first 5 years achievement. It's always there and we respect it. But it's now your turn to respect TVXQ as duo unless you want us to kneel down and beg for it. Simply never! I just wish TVXQ all the best and hope they can attract more fans just like me 🤣 Yunho & Changmin Fighting!!! - 09 July 2018 - P.s: I'm here waiting impatiently for Begin Again tour DVD 🤗 since I couldn't make it to Nissan stadium 😭 Update: I'm currently reading the doc 1000 first days of Jyj and thinking about the media play's psychological effects. It's like I'm studying history course lvl 200 😂
This is really beautiful, and I did cry during it. But I feel that it paints JYJ as the bad ones for leaving, when they were victims also. I really love all five members, and I hope that soon they can be again as five. THAT is my promise to TVXQ. THAT is what I will wait for. And even if they don’t become TVXQ as five again, I will stand by each member. That, to me, is what a Cassie is. Jaejoong, Yunho, Changmin, Junsu, Yoochun, keep fighting! I have faith in the five of you forever!
I always appreciate them for their hard work. thank you for being tvxq. without you yunho and changmin... we would've not have had one of the most strong smtown group ever. thank you.
Thanks for making this video,really appreciate it.Thanks to Yunho and Changming who kept the name of TVXQ although they have gone through the dark times but they did not give up.Thanks for coming back even stronger and charming men!
I don't really understand why some people still think " TVXQ is five". HEY! It's 2016 now, wake up pl ! The group of 2 has already last longer than the group of 5, not mention that JYJ got a new constellation name for their fanclub(BTW it's a constellation composed from 3 stars). So if you are fan of them, just join the new fanclub, but don't call yourself Cassie, Cassies are fans of TVXQ.TVXQ are Yunho and Changmin. We are T ! Waiting for their comeback in 2017.
+Vivienne Zheng if you started loving tvxq when they're still 5 members, you would never say that. tvxq is built by 5 members, the fact is true forever.
+Tép Vô Đối Lol Tvxq built by 5 members? How stupid to say such a thing. The success of Tvxq in the past and now is the combination of hard work and effort from both group members and Sm. Tvxq did not succeed on it own. Tvxq was dreamt up and started by Sm and they invested time and money into the group. They promoted them, provided concepts, choreographies, hit songs, etc. Jyj decided they didn't want to be part of that any more and filed a lawsuit so they could stop being Tvxq members and that is what they got. After Jyj's departure from the group in 2009 and after they started their own group in 2010, it is delusional to say "Tvxq is five". They obviously aren't unless you can't count. Do you need help with that? 5-3=2. Tvxq with 2 members has lasted longer than the group of 5 did and is more successful and broken almost all the records of the past. That is fact, that is not delusional and true forever.
+Docus 300 okay, it's just my view, I respect your opinion. but I want to ask you a simple question: which is the happiest moment to you, tvxq as 5 or 2 members?
Tép Vô Đối Except its not an opinion, it is fact. Its hard to quantify happiness, Tvxq had happy times in the past and have had many happy times since Tvxq became only two members. Tvxq seem more content as two members than they were as five. They have moved on from the past. They have good and bad memories but the past is gone. Yunho: *"I detest a word called ‘in the past’. There may be excellent things done in the past but it will be over with a round of applause. It is important to keep walking."* worldbigeastcassiopeia.com/2014/02/22/trans-yunhos-interview-with-arena-homme/ Yunho: *I feel that we are here because of our past, and what we are doing now leads us to the future, so I don’t really think of going back. I have my life now because of all the hard work done in the past, and I plan to continue everyday like this.* Changmin: *I feel the same as Yunho. The reason why I’m not interested in going back to the past is not because I’m denying my past, but rather because I feel, “I’m happier now”, “I like this moment more”.* If they can move on, so should we.
+Docus 300 (y) thank you for your sharing. I deeply respect HoMin and JYJ for their working hard and their dreams. And I extremely like real fans like you :)))))) thank you.
When they sang Rising Sun, just the two of them, my heart cracked. And eyes flooded. I've only been a TVXQ fan for 3 months, so I couldn't possibly know so much about them as others, but they deserve our love and admiration for all they have been doing these years, ALL FIVE OF THEM. Always keep the faith.
10 years later and they are still going strong! Happy Anniversary and wishing many more! I wish this could be updated with the 7 crown wins they just accomplished, not to mention performing for over 1 MILLION fans in 2013 (TIME and Catch Me World Tour)! TVXQ are amazing. Yunho and Changmin have re-written history, beaten their own records, and continue to soar! Congratulations!
I would trust Jung Yunho with my life...whatever he does, he makes the decision with his heart and head combined. I believe in him, and with him as leader, TVXQ will soar their way back to the top again, as 5 or not.
When TVXQ appeared in the Tour, everything froze. I didnt feel anything. I kept staring at my screen and I couldnt even believe it. Thankyou for protecting TVXQ, you guys earned it all. You brought SM into a brighter and higher company. You guys collected all the pieces and brought it together again. Its all one. JYJ, you guys should've never left.
marie bella These KYHD lyrics sum you up. Ha, Don’t play with people like that. In front of me, all you do is speak of lies. You’re such a two-faced person.
@@turtlepacedgirl4947 I know it's an old comment section but don't you think sm also tortured homin in those years before the split? imo there must be something more substantial than the agency's treatment that made jyj left, and the cosmetic case sounds make sense
@@ebifuranism u do know sm can manipulate right? Like come on it’s obvious most idols are manipulated into staying or else lay from exo I’m sure would’ve left a long time ago
I'm glad to see Yunho and Changmin are happy, enjoy every single moments of the journey with a big smile . TVXQ, keep going stronger and bring their best for the fans... TVXQ=Yunho+Changmin fighting!!! ......We always support both of you. We Are T !!!
Congratulations Yunho and Changmin for TVXQ 10th Anniversary!!! We are T! TVXQ are Yunho and Changmin! Thank you for protecting TVXQ and we will always by your side!
Everything this video says about the new TVXQ is so true. Hard work never betrays them. They are such role models for me. Successfully went through the chaos and still stand firm on their original dreams up until now. I am so proud of TVXQ! Anyway, I was never thankful of the separation. I never thanked the three who left for leaving Yunho and Changmin. But I'm grateful that the new TVXQ soars higher after the three left. So i guess now I can finally thank them for leaving TVXQ :) lol I wish the three of them a long lasting prosperity :)
JYJ fans are also thankful they left too! They can now finally have their own say in whatever they want and do not want. No longer puppets being controlled! Oh! Did I also mentioned all the fortunes they've acquired these past years after leaving? The 3 boys are ALWAYS on the list of the riches idols in Korea . Junsu even owns his own resort in jeju lol! This will never happen if they continued to stay. They are living the best times of their lives now! So what with the ban and cockblocking? Their albums and concerts still sells like hotcakes lol😏😏😏 BEST DECISION MADE BY JYJ!
+Aziera Hassan yes of coz they will continue to live life happily. What's not to? Happiness is being with members who had the exact same mindset, stayed together amongst the hardships, bounce back together and stay strong. Having all the freedom is definitely a blessing too. JYJ has that all! Oh! Able to earn lots to put food on the table is a bonus too 😊
+misssasa829 I think +Aziera Hassan was being sarcastic. TVXQ are happy too and have freedom. Everything they do is their choice down to the choice NOT to leave with JYJ. They are rich too, yet don't show off. And money wasn't their motivation in the choices they made. They are also happy with each other because they share the same mindset too. They shared hardships which weren't even caused by themselves. Through the hard times and undeserved severe bashing they continued TVXQ as this video proves and became more successful than the group with five members making them very rich but more importantly succeeding where many doubted they ever would. We would never have seen what great performers they were if JYJ were still in the group. One question, Are you saying JYJ could not put food on the table when they were in SM? So why is it Yunho and Changmin who got paid the same money as JYJ were not broke? Sorry, that is two questions!
+Siimwe Yeap i do know she was being sarcastic. Couldn't you tell I was too? I am never one to bash homin unless I see mindless TVXQ fans throwing accusations towards JYJ. And the very comment I replied pissed me off. Don't forget they started out as 5 and all had credits in making DBSK a legend so don't go around discrediting the other 3 just because they left. And no, if you wanna compare fortunes, homin is not on JYJ's level definitely. And along the years, you could actually tell homin was no longer as happy as before and this is especially true for changmin. I've been with them for almost 10 years so you don't have to reason out between the 5 with me coz I see it very clearly.
I've almost given up on this fandom. Really, I practically lost contact with all the fellow Cassies I used to go back and forth with thru emails and PMs, didn't watch any DBSK videos for 2 years and never even googled "DBSK" for those 2 years. I dropped off the DBSK fandom. And you guys know why? Because of fans bashing each other and their mothers. I just couldn't take it. And I am 100% sure that there are A LOT of others like me. But unlike them, I looked back. I missed them and one day, on a whim, went to youtube and typed "DBSK". I watched a video of the 5 of them laughing, and I cried like a baby for 2 hours. I really missed them. I'm glad I came back, but I didn't regret leaving the fandom for a little while. My advice to all fellow Cassies: Maximize the love, minimize the hate. Hate makes people that are fans become ex-fans, and future fans become EXO fans, lol, sorry had to do it x3 Like what it says on Jaejoong's tattoo: Deferto Neminem. Accuse NO MAN, not SOO MAN. Lol...sorry, it was right there. But you guys know what I mean right? Lighten up, don't be so grumpy and finger-point-y and just enjoy the boys. I enjoy them almost every night... *cough*
Cassiopeia was a fanclub created for tvxq. Tvxq is now Yunho and Changmin. Jyj were once part of tvxq but they left of their own free will. When they left they didn't just leave Sm and tvxq, they left the fanclub as well. Its because of them that there is so much confusion with ot5's because as long as jyj are attached to the name Cassiopeia, there is still a connection between the two groups. Aren't jyj supposed to be out of tvxq completely including the fanclub? Its time for them to form...
Love & respect for tvxq ....its 2020 & homin are still together sharing the same dream..im a kpoper from 2017 ....see tvxq you didnt even have to promote ....we will find you...true kpopers will always find you & support you ..... Love from a bd exol 💛
The cause of break up of TVXQ is due to SM Entertainment management ill treatments of their artists. Instead of giving their artists some right to express what they would like to do they were forced to do only what SM wanted to do. And also these artists were over worked not having time to recuperate and not compensated enough for all their hard works. It's sad that they broke up but at the same time I'm so happy for JYJ because they have control over how they want to express their music and they are happy and doing well. I'm also happy for remaining members of TVXQ because they are also doing well. So everyone should happy for all 5 musically talented hard working members of JYJ and FVXQ.
***** If they had a 13-year contract, tell me how could they renew 5 times, tremendous liar, if you lie about it, I can say for everything else you write, there is no logic in your argument
I understand that your comment is supposed to defense jyj and blamed on everything to SM.but at the same time it also shows how great and selfless Yunho and Changmin are for Cassies.
i am a Cassiopeia since 2005, until now even. The struggling were so real back on those times, i remember my fellow cassies r like losing their hope, refusing to eat, to go to school, tears are everywhere... for me personally, they are so precious because i feel like i can reach my dream as long as i work hard and work hard just like they did. 2009 is such a dark year for every Cassie on that time, why because we hang on to something we tried so hard to believe yet we know eventually they would split up. Always keep the faith means so much to us because everywere they go, no matter what they choose to become, Cassiopeia wil always support the 5 of them.
+Niwa Ayano Always keep the faith is not a TVXQ slogan. Its a JYJ slogan and it has nothing to do with TVXQ getting back together. Jaejoong:- *The always keep the faith tattoo I have on my front is about my desire to protect my beliefs.* princejj.com/2012/09/11/trans-history-and-meaning-of-jaejoongs-tattoos/ Cassiopeia is not a fanclub for five members, it is a TVXQ fanclub that only Yunho and Changmin are members of. JYJ walked out of the group, fanclub and everything else that belonged to TVXQ and SM. They formed their own group and their own fanclub that they refuse to name for obvious reasons. Those are the facts as they are.
Nathalia Ribeiro You're wrong and everything I said was factually true but if you want to stay delusional then of course that is your choice. Why choose delusion over reality though? What do you get out of it? Is the reality that harsh for you?
SM changed their contracts because they were found out. stop defending them. it worked out for Yunho and Changmin. it's a GOOD thing FTC ordered them to change their contracts for crying out loud. now they get to choose what projects they do and reject ones they don't. and if anything (and i hope to god it doesn't) ever happened to them, they could leave, without paying the ridiculous charges they would've incurred originally.
Its because of Yunho and Changmin that TVXQ name is not something in the past. Its them that making the name as present,not something as the history. Its true the now TVXQ isn't the same as before,but the now TVXQ is still breaking the record and create the new achievement.TVXQ had became my pride since 8 years ago and and it never ceased to be so until now. TVXQ is ALIVE and its all due to the effort of only Yunho and Changmin.Thats enough for me as fan,and i'm grateful to Yunho and Changmin.
nevertheless. in my mind the one who at fault here is Sm. only if they've treated their artists better. none of this incident will be happened .of course SM plays a big role for tvxq's fame but don't forget that the ex-ceo.LSM become one of top stockholder in Korea. well nothing comes free right.yunho and changmin are the best as they can withstand all the hardships after tvxq break up but jyj are strong and brave as the fight with the ex-company .now,they have their own path.whatever they do. let's support them as best as we can.
***** if that is ur opinion.then that's it. AND i'm not biased to anyone like someone did. i said homin are the best. but if jyj don't have the gut to do so. then why they still insisted to against the big company even though they know they will face big obstacles after the law suit. eg: they were banned from being broadcast at all. i'm blaming SM, not jyj/homin. believe SM as you wish. and i'm a cassie that believe all the 5 boys.
***** okay then. you are the best cassie. you are the most hard working one. thank you for your effort. just continue your life like this. it suits you the best :)
max junnie Youre right, why we should be in other sides? why we shouldnt support them as 5? but i didnt asked by some of Changmin&Yunho's butthurted fans and i just hate SM,
***** What a pathetic Homin's butthurt fan are you i dont wanna argue with shitty girls or boys like you i just made my reply, yes i hate SM so what? but you hating Jaejoong Yuchun Junsu, you are not real fan or something, you dont care about members, lol look at your pro pic, youre just hardcore Homin fan, so i dont wanna argue with annoying girls like you so shut up
I will continue to love and support TXVQ as two, and I can't wait for their Korean comeback!! This was a wonderful video, thank you for translating and sharing =)
Don't get me wrong: I love Changmin and Yunho, and I support TVXQ just as much as I support JYJ. That being said, I hate it when people credit ONLY HoMin for TVXQ's success. Like for their 10th year anniversary when people say "Changmin and Yunho have worked so hard!" TVXQ's success didn't begin in 2010. TVXQ has been successful since they debuted in 2003. And although JYJ is no longer a part of TVXQ, and they don't deserve any of the credit for everything that TVXQ has done since the split up, they still left just as much an imprint in the world as HoMin did. Don't act like they never existed.
jyj celebrate stop at 6th anniversary but later on it's all about Yunho and Changmin,so Yunho and Changmin deserve to celebrate 10th anniversary because they are TVXQ since debut
***** i understand, i just feel like a lot of time people act like TVXQ have always just been Changmin and Yunho, and that JYJ never even wanted to be a part of the group, and that upsets me a bit. But I get that it's best to not mention JYJ because of the chaos it causes.
I am really glad youve said this! I think that HoMin get more credit than the group as a whole, and its irritating i think. As those two, ten years ago, i dont think they wouldve made he impact rhe 5 of them did. Yes, jyj left after 6 years, but that doesnt mean they were never part of tvxq. And this video was really biased, outrageously. They made it sound like jyj intentionally left tvxq to hurt the group and HoMin, which i can not imagine is the case. I know that seeing them as 5 again is impossible, but we have to remember them as 5, accept that they chose different roads, and go on accepting AND remembering then together and them as they are now.
DBSK with the 5 members still exist in my mind. Cassie will always support the five members not just 2 or 3. I don't know how i can change from that idea since i've been believing this for 5 years already.
You should submit this for the fan made video session of homin's concert. This will surely bring tears to all cassies out there.. Such a beautiful video 😢 TVXQ hwaiting! -from a ten-year cassie ❤️
OMG, this make me cry, especially those music choice that you chose for the video. It just makes the whole storytelling all the more powerful and emotional. Go TVXQ!!!
I am proud how far, both groups, TVXQ and JYJ have come. Both groups went through so much within the years. We all know, the three other members in their hearts, didnt want to leave in the first place, and that they didnt want to leave the other two. But they did what they thought was right, FOR THEMSELVES. For changmin and yunho, of course it was really hard for them to accept that, this was really happening. It was really shocking for them and heartbreaking. But instead of leaving such a legendary group in the dust, they decided that they wanted to keep the name known. And we are all glad they did. They showed us how much they have grew over the past 2 years and a half without the other 3 beside them. It was such a challenge for them cause us fans and other people didnt believe that they could bring TVXQ back alive like it was back then. But they showed us they could and that, they eventually did. For the other 3 members, it was also hard for them too. All they wanted to do was start fresh but, the battle between them and SM, brought so many challenges to them, it just slapped them in the face. Yet they didnt give up on what they wanted to do, and they didnt give up on us fans. They kept going forward cause they knew they would eventually see the light that was gonna lead them into their path. In all of our hearts, cassie hearts and us fans of JYJ, we all know we still believe in the 5. Even though they split, Jaejoong, Junsu, and Yoochun are still considered as TVXQ members in our hearts. If you still dont believe in the 5, your not a cassie or JYJ fan at all. Its heartbreaking that, when the incident happened, on both sides, The other 2 were considered as traitors and also the other 3 members. It was just so, frustrating and upseting that some of us fans, were going against each others fanbases. And it was also heartbreaking to see and know the 5 crying and feeling hopeless. It was just so chaotic. But now, we are all happy and glad both groups are doing so well and fine. And really happy that they stayed for us fans too. I will forever be a TVXQ fan and JYJ fan. Both groups went through so much, for themselves and us fans. All of us, should be hellaa proud of ours boys keepin it up for this damn long.
Tend to ignore those kind of fans. To them they're always sad,not happy, they're forcing their smiles. Even some OT5's, JYJ's TVXQ fans get annoyed with them.
This video made me cry so much! I don't know why, my heart just aches so much when watching it! I am not a TVXQ fan! I love Junsu! Funny thing is when was watching the video on JYJ & them being ban from Korean TV networks, didn't even shred a tear but here crying my eyes out! I'm never gonna take sides! I summarise myself as purely a Junsu fan. But, in the deepest part of my heart, I wish to call myself as Cassiopeia! #Waiting for DB5K to reunite# #Waiting the FIVE KINGS to come back#
Sharon Lee Cassiopeia is a Dbsk fan club and the group has two members, Yunho and Changmin. If you call yourself a Cassiopeia then you are a Yunho and Changmin fan. Dbsk does not need to reunite because all two of its members are in the group.
+Orion You are a non- Korean speaking idiot too. You live everyday of your life bashing Yunho and Changmin. You are evil. That's what evil losers do when they stan co-evil losers. It is as clear as crystals, your greedy Oppas were the ones who left them. These swell-headed ex-members thought it was over for the 2 of them. This amazing duo proved them wrong. I pity fans like you. You are so butt hurt because the duo is doing well without them and they keep on associating themselves in TVXQ's name? What a shame! They deserted them and yet they still want to be part of the name the duo tried so hard to preserve, it's pride and glory? Go to your Oppas vids, cry with all your might while listening to their boring music. That's the only thing you can do now. . . cry over a spilled milk. :P
Thank you TVXQ for making who I am now🥺🥺 you guys are my light... I will always be your fan even tho you guys far apart from each other ... I will still love all 5 of you😭😭😭❤️❤️
🙋🏻♀️. From. 🇺🇸. 2019. Beautiful tribute to the courage of not giving up. And look at you now 👏👏 Still performing with your own uniquely dynamic style. Thank you entertaining us who love you and hope for longevity in your music career.🎶🎧 🙆🏻♀️❣️
the FTC change their guidelines because k-pop has come a hell of a long way since 1996 and is constantly changing. agencies are constantly changing the ways they sign artists, the way they treat artists and the way they make contracts. that's natural, by the way.
This is not bias for me because they are telling the tvxq story if the title said tvxq-jyj then they would include the other three members point of view. This is my opinion tho
it's a big dream for the 5 of them to be together in 1 stage again..but at least i hope they have a good relationship even though they never meet each other for a long time..
Thank u !!!! Yunho and Changmin For still being here, protect the name TVXQ Without you, the name TVXQ would have been gone by now, no new generation kpop-er can know about the true legend of KPOP - TVXQ So thank u from the bottom of heart " Through the hard time, we're still standing here, we are DBSK/TVXQ "
as much as I miss changmin and yunho, I miss the blogger who translated this video, Precious We can say he was the initiator of voicing the facts, internationally, for the sake of TVXQ who had been in silent back then (2009-2011) and whose name had been tarnished as a traitor because of the 3. But, after years gone by, it's relieved thing by thing comes into light, especially for changmin and yunho, and I can't wait your comeback, tho I might not attend the concert :(
I'm curious what kind of reply you have sent me..I've got the notification but I can't see a thing..all I can read is just thank you for believing, in my notification
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This video is so heart breaking but people are getting it wrong, this vid does not state JYJ as traitors instead it states the struggles Homin had to face as they were called the traitors by Cassies. During the breakup almost 70 % of the fans were against Homin. They were treated horribly by those so-called fans. They had to stay in hiatus for almost 2 years, Yunho said that he saw newer generations didnt recognize them...and so they steped up their game to show people who TVXQ are
SME punished them to make an example to JYJ but those fans you speak of were the reason SME was forced to alllow them to continue their careers. The fans stuck with them even if some left we were too many for SME to ignore so they began to promote again after getting a show for 2 instead of 5.
Siimwe Abooki Stupid... Take you fake ass & go somewhere no one is going to relitigate this 8 year old story. Believe what you want . People lie you are the reason TVXQ receives bad vibes. Most people love and respect them all... just dumb idiots like you are stuck in a hole. Get lost and don''t freakig respond to me again.
Deb Libra Deb Libra lol what are u talking about ? ur not making any sense..... Why the fuck would SM punish Yunho and Changmin for something JYJ did. Homin waited for JYJ for 1.5 years but they didn't come back so they debuted as a duo. SM could never let TVXQ go so easily, they were and still are SMs biggest money maker. I know ur a JYJ fan but stop talking shit about TVXQ. Also there is proof about the entire cosmetic business shit, just cause ur a JYJ fan it doesn't mean u can deny whatever they did. I don't hate JYJ but u can't deny the truth.
Anonymousgirl150 I already told you to get lost. Never going to be able to satisfy your blindness. Go ask Kris, Luhan, Tao, Shinhwa, or Jessica if SM retaliates if you don't bow down to then and just don't freaking respond again. Done with you.
Deb Libra lolololol first you reply to my comment and then when i reply back u tell me to get lost. How about u leave us alone. If you can't deal with the truth then just shut the fuckup and stop commenting in TVXQ vids.
TVXQ's story shows the reality of idols life and they're strongest bond with the fans, I respect TVXQ's fans and also Yunho and Changmin.
It painful to see that YH & CM ask the 3 members to comeback to TVXQ... Thanks for protect the name of TVXQ 😭 We with youu YH & CM
Can i asked you what happened to tvxq why there are only yunho and changmin
@@Kdrama430 Bcoz JYJ created SHIT by appealing a lawsuit file against SM... But the fact was, JYJ were blindfolded by money n greediness by choosing friends over money... It happens bocz of the FUCKING cosmetic business that JYJ were involved... Their comsetic business company used their band to promote their business including Yun Ho/Chang Min pics... When JYJ were caught by SM, JYJ were told to stop their business... Instead, JYJ went and applied a lawsuit file against SM... This is how the split happens... Blindfolded by money n greediness...
@@tienqin96 wtf do you even know anything? It was because of the slave contract and unfair treatment. If what you said were true they wouldn't have won the lawsuit. SM was and still is a piece of shit, didn't even let them (JYJ) promote in music shows but they still came so far. They still can't perform on music shows but their albums sold more than TVXQ. Stop spreading misinformations, what you said are utter bullshits.
@@Kdrama430 sorry, I'm replying late, I wouldn't have replied if the other person didn't say excessively wrong words. The reason is because of the slave contract, unfair treatment-in one word, mistreatment. We all know how shitty SM is and back in those days, they were more. This is the main reason.
@@tienqin96 lol I'm not a fan of either groups but I like some of their music and no hun, you're the one with wrong facts here. The other two members in TVXQ stayed cause their parents wouldn't let them go (more like didn't allow them to go) cause it would literally risk their careers and SuJu was treated better than TVXQ (the treatment was bad but compared to TVXQ, it was fair enough) And TVXQ got to do everything with their career when JYJ was thrown in Amsterdam and couldn't perform in music shows, appear on variety shows etc. And the way they were treated was dehumanizing. Why would someone take so much mistreatment after 7 years? Can't they put their own life first? Why would that be selfish? Are you telling them to let their life be treated like shit just for some people like you who think they are selfish? How funny and disgusting lmao.
And before telling me to go support my "JYJ oppars" know that you're funny asf lol why did you even assume I'm a JYJ fan just cause I said the truth right there? Predatory behaviour lmao. And once again, I'm not a fan of either groups but I like some of their music. And it's you who's barking bullshits worse than animals for your 'oppars'.
I admire Yunho and Changmin. The way they carried themselves through hardship is remarkable. Happy they are doing well now. We stand by you TVXQ. Thanx Viv Cameron and otherss for stating facts and correcting these
i just happened to be here bec i am curious about these two when i watched analog trip.. and this story is amazing.. i am an exol.. and i was broken hearted when three of the members left.. but im still thankful that there are 9 members left.. imagine how these two felt and the fans as well when three of the members left.. 😥 these two are brave souls.. i salute them for standing up to the name of tvxq.. for their dream... for their fans who still believe in them.... you guys have my absolute respect!!
Same...
I agree EXO , SUPER JUNIOR, TVXQ and 3 fandoms really went through so hard times and always proving themselves and all are among the biggest biggest group of Kpop
"WE ARE BROTHERS, NOT MEMBERS..!!!!!"
Absolutely here admiring Yunho and Changmin...such a heartbreaking yet heartwarming video...Thank you ~ 2020
this is the lesson from TVXQ never lose hope ,,,,, anyway anytime
Honestly, I think if you're a true fan you should support all five of them because they all went through struggles at that period.
Tea. The true villain is obviously SM.
This has happened for so many years. H.O.T, Shinhwa (though the fact they all stayed together was fucking amazing), TVXQ, Super Junior, EXO.
Almost everyone.
if its not because of homin, you will never hear tvxq again.. never..
its the truth..
THAT WOULD BE SME FAULT... JUST LIKE THEY DID TO SHINHWA. THEY BROKE THEM FINANCIALLY WITH SUITS OVER THE NAME. JYJ ACCEPTED THAT THEY MAY NEVER BE ABLE TO PERFORM AGAIN RATHER THAN BE ROBBED AND BULLIED BY SME. HAPPY TVXQ STAYED STRONG AND PROTECTED THE LEGACY OF THE NAME. SORRY FOR THE CAPS... TOO LAZY TO TYPE OVER...LOL.
Deb Libra comparing tvxq to shinhwa as if you know everything about shinhwa, ppfftt 😝
whatever your opinion is, it wont change the fact that yunho & changmin are the one who kept tvxq shining. if not because of them, you wont see tvxq on kpop chart like now. take it.
Siimwe Abooki he/she wont listen to these facts, lets just admire our boys big heart, patient, hardwork, humble, we are forever grateful to have yunho & changmin protect tvxq from vanishing.
cici muii zen Go sit down somewhere kid.
Siimwe Abooki They left for their good. Don't really care what you hard cases say. We know the truth so get lost with your arguing.
I am calling myself a Cassie. And I Love DBSK as 5. I Love TVXQ as 2 and I Love JYJ. Why? Because I love the members, I love their songs. I love them from 2003 to 2015 and not only from 2010-2015. I am fan of Yunho, Changmin, Jaejoong, Junsu and Yoochun. I don't care what happened. I want to support all members. Current and former. In my heart they all are equal.
+TakittixD I think your position is the most honest and generous.
5 guys have moved far ahead and reasonable fans do not need to return to past grievances artists because of their - fans of morbid whim.
TakittixD 👏👏👏
Q: Have you ever thought of wanting to go back to your past?
C: I feel the same as Yunho. The reason why I’m not interested in going back to the past is not because I’m denying my past, but rather because I feel, “I’m happier now”, “I like this moment more”.
-Glamorous May Edition
The first time I watched this video was in 2012.
I don't know how much I've been crying that time.
I came here all over again and still my heart ache. I'm not even Yunho, Changmin or their acquitances but, I'm hurt.
I found myself falling in love with them, over and over again.
Today is in December 2015. They're still my number one and only one K-Pop boyband I adore.
Because they're righteous. They're truthful. My role models.
Waiting for them in 2017. Yunho, Changmin, we're waiting for you always.. please always be healthy there~
They still are the best.
Yunho and Changmin.
The real TVXQ.
I remember the first video I saw of TVXQ! It was March 2016. The video I listened to was Hug, and it was right after I was listening to Replay by SHINee. I'll never forget that day, it's that day that I knew I was staning legends. In less than 8 months I knew everything about them and was caught up on everything I knew. But I still always feel left out. I know some fans were there when the breakup happened and when they had to go through all that hate and I didn't get to feel that with them. But I support JYJ and TVXQ! Especially with TVXQ!s comeback recently, I feel like I am an actual fan now and i truly stan the kings of kpop.😊
2020 still we love and support them!
Thank you Jung Yunho and Shim Changmin for keeping TVXQ.
:( I miss them as 5. I do support them separately but well.. I wonder if they could still be friends. I mean, no matter which side you take, be it JYJ or HoMin or neutral, you can't disagree that they were pretty good as 5
Actually Mei Lim they were the most successful group in asia as 5 but once they broke apart they were still awesome just 1 is successful but the other has been band from performing in korea.
Yeah I know. They were the best as 5
Been waiting for this kind of comment. I've been reading comments saying that TVXQ songs from 2011 onwards are better and some even saying they don't listen to their old songs anymore. Though I somehow agree with that (since their latest songs were bops), I felt like their harmony as 5 is unmatched. I became a fan when I heard Hug since their harmony is solid. I haven't heard a male Kpop group with such harmony. However, as I watch their new performances of old songs as HoMin, the harmony lacks another voice. Not saying it's bad, HoMin are extremely talented and enjoyable to watch. What I mean is when they sing, since they are a duo now, one has to sing the melody while the other one harmonizes (usually the low harmony). When they were 5, some members sing the melody while some harmonizes - some members sing the high part while the others sing the low part. Meaning, the harmony feels more complete and solid. I seriously miss their OT5 harmony. :(
this is a really beautiful video showing how much homin have gone through and how strong they are.
but don't go hating on jyj. yes they signed those contracts, but they were young and stupid. while SM did have a large role in their success, don't even pretend that it wasn't first and foremost for the company's own profit. you can train them and put as much money into them all you want, but in the end, it was the boys' own talent and hard work that got them that success. don't forget that if they didn't succeed, SM would have easily abandoned them in the search of the next big thing. it's so cruel that people expect them to work under ridiculous conditions in the meaning of 'gratitude'. i know that NONE OF YOU HERE would ever work under some shitty boss who treats you like crap, so why would you expect that of them?
JYJ have done wonders for the Korean entertainment industry in terms of rights and contracts. So many other idols have gotten out of their unfair terms and slave contracts, so instead of hating on them, you all should be grateful that they had the guts to take a stand. yes homin have had it hard, but so have jyj.
i think both sides had different, but still very legitimate, reasons for their actions, and so it's not fair to blame either of them.
SM is ultimately the one that broke up this group. They milked TVXQ as their cash cow for all they were worth until jyj couldn't stand it anymore so if it's anybody you should be shaming, it's SM.
emily the most precise comment i could ever find about them. Always keep the faith.
If the treatment is inhumane then it's nit proper anymore. I mean yes, they are idol SM paid them but it doesn't mean you need to treat them like a puppet. I mean they are humans, they get tired as humans do, they are not robots.
emily “work for shitty bosses” if you’re in America then you know that you can get fired for no reason. So Yeah🤷🏽♀️
PERIOD
Most sensible comment under this video so far♥️
Looking at most of the comments here. I feel anger and sick, when as Cassiopeia become this? We are here to hear the story of two who held on to the dear life of protecting this precious name we all followed for years. We are not here to fight and to blame each other. If you're a true Cassiopeia, every decision that they make is on them. And we just have to support it. It doesn't mean if you call JYJ or Yunho and Changmin traitors, it'll make you a good person. By turning your back on them, you, yourself has become the traitor instead. We all feel the same and I think we all know each other's feeling more than anyone else's. We're not here taking sides, we're here to hear our oppas' speak. We're Cassiopeia, where is the strong people who are supposed to lean on each other and whose supposed to pat each other in the back when they see and hear unfair things. I know we're not stuck in the past no more, but we're are still the people who still are the guardians of DBSK and JYJ.
First: to compare it with EXO-CBX case, it looks similar but internally different because at least the other members esp the leader know it before the news so actually CBX fight in peace with other EXO members.
Second: I think the admin try to show the side of friendship before and after. Obviously on TVXQ case has a basic issue between members, communication. Yeah, their communication were so bad. In my point of view, including my experiences, both are divided into two type of emotions which leads them to different decision and paths.
Three: at the end of the day, JYJ against SME are solved by the law and look at how Jaejoongie feels free to mention a lot of SME things, including still calling LeeSoMan in a respective manner. But ironically it's not the same with the members relationship. It feels like JYJ keep blaming the agency for their broke up when the reality is it was their own problem between Yoonho-Changmin with Jaejoong-Junsu-Yoochun. And it looks like that main problem still unsolved till now. It's not like they have a bad relationship but it quite sure that also not a good either. It's hard for me to sense of friendship between the both sides, not even for YoonJae probability. Yoonho and Changmin looks warm but the tragedy looks like make their cold side take over their main actions. They're so calm and cold. Meanwhile on the other side, JYJ looks like in a full anger and conflict with their own mind and decision. Clearly I can see a lot of struggle but because of the hot temper make it harder for them to handle. At the end, mentally JYJ was like drowning into the bad things. And I believe they have a lot of regrets because of the past. It's not about the law suit against SME anymore but it's more into their past story with Yoonho and Changmin aren't going to have any solutions.
Four: the silent treatment from Yoonho and Changmin means a lot to explains. Also how the both side like have such agreement to not to mentioning their names anymore as their respect to each other sides. Yoonho and Changmin are like firm that their happiness right now is TVXQ with Yoonho and Changmin without forgetting their past. They're completely moving forward with no regrets anymore and pretty fast if I should compare to Jaejoongie, Junsu, and Yoochun.
Five: the separation between Yoonho-Changmin with JYJ becomes their personal problem right now so I hope each fans can understand that and not trying to blame each other also don't play the victim card anymore especially if want to try to drag SME and LSM because obviously it's not relevant anymore.
Six: personally I can see the happiness from Changminie and Yoonho also slowly getting much better and his confidence as a leader is back. Then, for the past two years, Jaejoongie looks so much happier than ever since 2010. I think he's finally found something that makes him feels healed. Meanwhile Junsu, hemm.. It's not like he's not moving forward but I think there's something left in his heart that he can't get it out easily. Yoochun, hemmm.. Honestly, I don't know him because I didn't following his career. But I want ro say that he should be more careful about his decision and how to appreciate his successful career. I wish he has some learning more about life from his tragedy at the past.
Seven: the key to makes them back together, imho, Yoonho and Jaejoong need to solve their problem first. I can sense a huge disappointments. It feels like Yoonho trust Jaejoongie the most out of members but it broken. Then Jaejoongie can't believe that Yoonho didn't choose him over anyone else. He thought Yoonho will always on his side, no matter he did but it's not because Yoonho is too cold for Jaejoongie melt his heart after the conflict. If only Yoonho and Jaejoongie is clear, it's so possible for TVXQ reunion with 5 members. If still unclear like what happens to them right now, I think it's only a bad idea to keep dreaming them back together. Hehee.. It feels like a divorce. It such a complicated feelings to handle it because keep playing back and forth, replay and forward, forget it and let it go, etc.
*ignore me if you disagree because you have your own believe so do I ;)
Thank you for taking the time to express your view point
Seeing how they have struggled through their career to first build up TVXQ, and then see it fall into pieces. Yet again building it up to what it is today. It really rips my heart! You are really something amazing! Thank you for all your efforts to bring the wonderful performances to me! WTG! TVXQ!
This is so freaking heartbreaking. I'm not even a Cassiopeia (I'm a Triple S) but this made me cry.
I'm a new fan. Thank you for this. Such a great inspiration to always move forward no matter how hard the journey is. Hardwork and passion works. They realy lived up to their name, TVXQ
Keep reading and looking... there’s a lot more to the story
Thanks Yunho and Changmin for keeping TVXQ name safely until now. It must be hard just to fill the stage with just 2 person. But Cassies are never dissapointed! we love TVXQ forever! Love it whether it is 2 of you or the other 3.. Sending My Precious LOVE to TVfXQ from Malaysia.
My apology for calling Yunho and Changmin, Homin. I got used to it because fans are calling them such. I am a new TVXQ fan and I love this duo.Probably a fan for three years. Yes, I love them as 5 but I love this amazing duo more!Thanks +Slimwe for the enlightenment. I love how they started all over again and came up victorious. I love Yunho's character, one hell of a great guy aside from his amazing talents. TVXQ fighting!!!!
I really cant understand some of the commenters here, this video is about the comeback of tvxq in 2011, it doesn't diss anyone actually, it just presents the story from the point view of yunho and changmin , there are many videos presenting the point of view of jyj , i dont see any "ot5" complaining there. See this is what i call hypocrisy.
+tvxqyunhochangmin forever exactly. No harsh words directed to the ex-members yet many complain that it is such a diss to jyj .__.
+tvxqyunhochangmin forever Its hypocrisy and selectiveness of what information they prefer. They prefer JYJ's version of story so they don't care about JYJ biased videos.
***** I don't care if you take any videos as fact or not. That is not the point here. People have the freedom to make whatever videos they want and no one is forced on them. If you don't like the content you get off the videos instead of complaining about it. The person who made this video is a TVXQ fan and does not care about JYJ or their side of the story.
*****
One thing I'm not is ignorant darling.
Then protest away stan. It won't make any difference. The person who made this video does not have to support JYJ because they were once TVXQ members. Its funny because the people who protest this video are mainly JYJ biased. So we have JYJ biased stans complaining on a biased TVXQ video with biased TVXQ fans and they can't see the irony lol.
+Siimwe I agree with you. I don't know when you have became a fan but I am considered to be new, and
one of the reasons I chose TVXQ! is because of the hypocrisy and double standard in this fandom.
LOL, one of the things that pissed me off was when I looked at a video of TVXQ singing one of their old songs and comments like "something is missing" , "poor jyj they cant promote but aktf" , never praising Yunho and Changmin for their hard work, then I went to jyj video singing one of TVXQ's old songs and comments were like " oh' they miss homin, oh they are keeping the faith, well done jyj, f** you sm " ... I mean O.o ...
and Jj Lee , everyone knows this video is biased, but no, its not made to deceive people because first it presents facts and second is beacuse JYJ's side is all over RUclips and so many fansites , LOL, I have seen JYJ's side more than TVXQ's while searching about this fandom. and third, don't worry because people like you in the comments will preach every TVXQ fan about JYJ and the way they suffer, some of you guys even promote them in TVXQ videos like KYHD and Catch me, never respecting Yunho and Changmin.
Oh, and if you call TVXQ/Tohoshinki/DBSK homin ... then, just please leave with JYJ and leave us and our biased video alone..
BTW, I know so many korean cassies some of them are old and none of them call TVXQ! homin... so just leave like your oppas, you can find a way to move on , like singing parrot or getting a jyj tattoo or a life ...
Watching this again in 2021. Thank you Yunho & Changmin for protecting TVXQ! till today :') 🎈🎈
I love you Jung YunHo babe, and Changmin.. keep safe and healthy, we are waiting for two of you.. no matter what haters said my love for you will never change.. Yunnie my leader i will always here to defend you, just come back safe fighting..
Watching this makes me crying again , I can't imagine how difficult YH & CM at that time especially their position was in danger, shall they continue or not, and change everything from songs, choreography etc. Also their emotional feelings that time, I rlly wanna hug Homin ,that was their hardship to grow agaib as two and makes fans believe in them, they can be exist again like b4, and NOW let's see How wonderful HOMIN is! Even though they've different personality, but their teamwork is amazing & completely each others! I LOVE U BOTH TVXQ! u did well til now..
This is a very touching video about HoMin. We know that 5 of them have had depressing days due to the lawsuit but thank you for creating this video. I had goosebumps! Yunho and Changmin thank you for protecting TVXQ's name. It's been so long how I wish everyone moved on and patch things up and be friends again. Fact is fact. They separated and receive a lot of hatreds. It may be impossible to comeback as 5 again but I don't think it would be too much to hope that they can be friends again even behind the camera right? Besides we all want everyone to be happy for our beloved TVXQ. Cassiopeia was made because TVXQ exists, because five of them exists. Cassiopeia hwaiting! TVXQ hwaiting! :)
we love u TVXQ
ot5, ot2, ot3 used to be a family and I still believe we are a family. why can't we just make a peace between each other?? it doesn't matter who we are supporting because we start as a family and I really hope we will end together as a family.
We used to laugh and cry together but why are we fighting now??
It's really depressing to watch ot5,0t2 and ot3 fight and blame each of the idol, calling either side a traitor. we don't even know the exact things that happen back during the lawsuit time. I refuse to believe what media said because they tend to exaggerate things and they are controlled by SM. I'll only believe in what our boys(TVXQ and JYJ) said.
I'm really hoping for a reunion to happen because TVXQ as five is the most mind-blowing group that ever exist in KPOP world but I also wouldn't mind if they choose to separate their way until the end because I will still support and love both side.
Yunjae reunion in military proved that they already make peace between each other so why can't we as a fans also make a peace?? It doesn't matter if we are ot5,ot2 or ot3 fans because we are still a family.
+jessica gonzalves No, because stans are retarded. JYJ fans are retarded and Homin fans are retaded. They deny everything.
Sorry, but please don't put all the blame on JYJ.You don't even know what really happened.Jaejoong said, "We are still the member of TVXQ.The 3 of us alone can't be TVXQ.Cassiopeia was created cause' they love TVXQ as a whole, not individual member."
So,if you are the real Cassiopeia, you gonna support all of them, wait for them and believe it's not gonna end here.That's what the real meaing behind 'Always Keep The Faith'..
Yuuki Funako I haven't read a comment on this video that puts "all blame" on JYJ. What happens is someone will come and blame TVXQ for something they are not responsible for and TVXQ fans like me will explain how they are not to blame and try to provide evidence with the explanation.
JYJ are not still members of TVXQ since they left. Cassiopeia was created for TVXQ. The members of TVXQ decreased from five to two but Cassiopeia is exclusively a TVXQ fan club. Real Cassiopeia are registered fans and no one is going to register for ex members. Don't come on a tvxq fanvid and tell us who real Cassiopeia are and who they should support. You are the one who is mistaken. Cassiopeia is not a fandom that is shared between two groups. It belongs to only one group. JYJ should get their own fandom. JYJ cannot use TVXQ only when it benefits them. When they left they should have understood that they walked out of everything that had to do with TVXQ. The group, the agency, the fan club and all benefits accompanied with TVXQ. It is what they wanted and sued for!
You're wrong about aktf and the real meaning behind it.
In a 2011 interview with Elle, when asked the meaning of his tattoo and the phrase ‘Always Keep The Faith’, Jaejoong answered:
"The ‘Always Keep the Faith’ tattoo I have on the front represents my desire to protect my beliefs"
Sorry if my word hurt you..but,I did say before that everyone had their own right to choose what they want.And I just stated what I know.If you got your own beliefs,continue to follow on what you want.I don't want to start any conflicts between anyone.-thank you
@107789286985472576589
This isn't about my feelings or wanting to start conflicts. You think you can choose whether jyj are tvxq or not? Don't facts matter? They chose to leave the group and their former agency. They filed a lawsuit to void their contracts and isn't that what happened? Neither is Cassopeia their fanclub since they left and formed their own group with a different agency. Those are the facts, whatever you think you chose! The facts are not going to change so don't you think its time you accepted them? Don't you think its time you accepted reality? Stop deluding yourself about who jyj are. And stop calling them tvxq after they left the group and almost completely destroyed it. Yunho and Changmin had to work hard through bashing to bring it to where it is today. Jyj have no claim to tvxq at all since they left. Why do you guys insist on making jyj part of tvxq when they themselves made it clear they wanted no part of it through their actions? Isn't suing to get out of the group and moving on from it very quickly proof enough for you? Whatever jyj say about tvxq or however much they reflect, cry and be emotional about the past their actions say something else.
Yuuki Funako
Please just ignore this Siimwe she is the most devoted JYJ antifan , she always spread lies about them she hates them so much you can't imagine , just ignore her because the more you talk to her the more she bash JYJ and spread lies and fake stories about them.
tbh htb You really have to stop yourself from missing me! Try love, all you have to do is try! Oh and btw you are still a liar, hypocrite and trying desperately hard to make TVXQ's achievements JYJ's. Sad, just sad!
you did a really really great job on this video and yes always with TVXQ no matter what
New fan since March 2018 here. After reading all the stuff on the internet, I'm glad that I've come to this fandom this late so I can have my own decision: I WILL SUPPORT TVXQ YUNHO & CHANGMIN FOREVER!
In March, when I first explored them, I still had sympathy for JYJ (I felt .. uncomfortable when my friend said they left bcuz of money). But the more I read, almost about jyj3, truetvxq, old blogs from 2011 when the likes for JYJ: TVXQ sided comments were obviously ratio 7:3 or 6:4,... the less sympathy I had. Now it is anger tbh. People all say: 3 left because of slave contract, while the other 2 stayed to protect TVXQ name. The fans merely constructed their reasons based on what happened and was told publicly. They never question why they can't protect the name TOGETHER? YH & CM love to be slaves? Think about the alternative reality when truetvxq blog was never published; will Y&C not be exculpated and be cursed because they betrayed the 3? All the "theories" were fabricated; one example was based on frivolous non-existent scenario that 3 risked their lives first then the leader and maknae can go later since they didn't want to hurt the fragile maknae (🙃) They all said they love TVXQ as a whole, blah blah sth like that but it's so contradictory here. Their actions did not match their words and I have to admit I saw that too.
YH & CM just renewed their contracts after enlistment. After 15 years, it was the best time to leave that so-called hell dungeon but they didn't. I just try to think this simple: From the beginning, they did not have the same goals and it was inevitable to have a split. It is also more reasonable currently because Yunho just said in Dunia TV show that he has no interest in investing for buildings but to build schools. It's consistent with what has happened so far. And yes, down to the earth, it was the only choice.
Now both parties have their own paths. TVXQ's current music has developed from concepts, to voices, etc. that suit them as duo a lot (I mean Begin Again tour and TCOL concepts,...), and they've also sung good old songs perfectly together so I just hope they'd continue with that and develop more.
One thing I noticed, when we compliment TVXQ for the achievements they two just gained recently, some people always jump in and say JYJCJ or AKTF sth like that. When TVXQ's fans ask for respect, they always say TVXQ is group created by 5 members whatever... I was like: What! That is the achievements of YH & CM apparently. Tohoshinki's tour DVDs write their two names only with the staff. Two of them stood on the stage. I wonder when you apply for a job, the employer asks you for the experience you've had recently or from 10 years ago. It's a simple reality because those recent experiences shape and influence you the most so please don't mention sth 10 years ago freely. It's like you went out off a company 10 years ago but keep bragging about it at your top line in resume, maybe because the recent incredible sales the company has or you've done nothing remarkable in those 10 years? Let's say experience from 10 years shaped you significantly somehow (some will say beautiful brotherhood memories, blah blah 😕), but the employer will criticize that with such huge achievement of that 10 years ago, you've not done something to prove that? Now those fans will keep defending with sth like they're banned, TVXQ got backed up by big company, mention dozens of awards they've received recently which I found banal enough... Well, it's a vicious circle but I managed to break it when I saw TVXQ YH & CM's actions. You expected those hardships when leaving so cope with it, not an excuse. People believed 3 would definitely succeed than 2, right?
I've never seen any TVXQ's fan, including me, denied the first 5 years achievement. It's always there and we respect it. But it's now your turn to respect TVXQ as duo unless you want us to kneel down and beg for it. Simply never!
I just wish TVXQ all the best and hope they can attract more fans just like me 🤣
Yunho & Changmin Fighting!!!
- 09 July 2018 -
P.s: I'm here waiting impatiently for Begin Again tour DVD 🤗 since I couldn't make it to Nissan stadium 😭
Update: I'm currently reading the doc 1000 first days of Jyj and thinking about the media play's psychological effects. It's like I'm studying history course lvl 200 😂
i love yunho and changmin so much..thank you for everything..we'll wait for you..We Are T!!
Beautiful tribute to wonderful and talented young men whose purity and passion continues to shine globally. Thank you for this.
Happy New year TVXQ fans/Cassies.
We fans, are all waiting for our boys to comeback and keep shining❤❤❤
This is really beautiful, and I did cry during it. But I feel that it paints JYJ as the bad ones for leaving, when they were victims also. I really love all five members, and I hope that soon they can be again as five. THAT is my promise to TVXQ. THAT is what I will wait for.
And even if they don’t become TVXQ as five again, I will stand by each member.
That, to me, is what a Cassie is.
Jaejoong, Yunho, Changmin, Junsu, Yoochun, keep fighting! I have faith in the five of you forever!
I cryyyy while watching this 😭😭😭
I always appreciate them for their hard work. thank you for being tvxq. without you yunho and changmin... we would've not have had one of the most strong smtown group ever. thank you.
Thanks for making this video,really appreciate it.Thanks to Yunho and Changming who kept the name of TVXQ although they have gone through the dark times but they did not give up.Thanks for coming back even stronger and charming men!
i'm not cassiopeia but i'm touched by they story. fighting TVXQ!!! i really start to love them.
TVXQ is YUNHO and CHANGMIN ❤
Yunho, Changmin, thanks for protecting TVXQ and not leaving us alone. I love you both so much.
I don't really understand why some people still think " TVXQ is five". HEY! It's 2016 now, wake up pl ! The group of 2 has already last longer than the group of 5, not mention that JYJ got a new constellation name for their fanclub(BTW it's a constellation composed from 3 stars). So if you are fan of them, just join the new fanclub, but don't call yourself Cassie, Cassies are fans of TVXQ.TVXQ are Yunho and Changmin. We are T ! Waiting for their comeback in 2017.
+Vivienne Zheng if you started loving tvxq when they're still 5 members, you would never say that.
tvxq is built by 5 members, the fact is true forever.
+Tép Vô Đối Lol Tvxq built by 5 members? How stupid to say such a thing. The success of Tvxq in the past and now is the combination of hard work and effort from both group members and Sm. Tvxq did not succeed on it own. Tvxq was dreamt up and started by Sm and they invested time and money into the group. They promoted them, provided concepts, choreographies, hit songs, etc.
Jyj decided they didn't want to be part of that any more and filed a lawsuit so they could stop being Tvxq members and that is what they got. After Jyj's departure from the group in 2009 and after they started their own group in 2010, it is delusional to say "Tvxq is five". They obviously aren't unless you can't count. Do you need help with that? 5-3=2. Tvxq with 2 members has lasted longer than the group of 5 did and is more successful and broken almost all the records of the past. That is fact, that is not delusional and true forever.
+Docus 300 okay, it's just my view, I respect your opinion.
but I want to ask you a simple question: which is the happiest moment to you, tvxq as 5 or 2 members?
Tép Vô Đối
Except its not an opinion, it is fact. Its hard to quantify happiness, Tvxq had happy times in the past and have had many happy times since Tvxq became only two members. Tvxq seem more content as two members than they were as five. They have moved on from the past. They have good and bad memories but the past is gone.
Yunho: *"I detest a word called ‘in the past’. There may be excellent things done in the past but it will be over with a round of applause. It is important to keep walking."*
worldbigeastcassiopeia.com/2014/02/22/trans-yunhos-interview-with-arena-homme/
Yunho: *I feel that we are here because of our past, and what we are doing now leads us to the future, so I don’t really think of going back. I have my life now because of all the hard work done in the past, and I plan to continue everyday like this.*
Changmin: *I feel the same as Yunho. The reason why I’m not interested in going back to the past is not because I’m denying my past, but rather because I feel, “I’m happier now”, “I like this moment more”.*
If they can move on, so should we.
+Docus 300 (y) thank you for your sharing. I deeply respect HoMin and JYJ for their working hard and their dreams. And I extremely like real fans like you :)))))) thank you.
When they sang Rising Sun, just the two of them, my heart cracked. And eyes flooded. I've only been a TVXQ fan for 3 months, so I couldn't possibly know so much about them as others, but they deserve our love and admiration for all they have been doing these years, ALL FIVE OF THEM.
Always keep the faith.
When i watch this, i cried...i felt sad for TVXQ...we will always support you!
10 years later and they are still going strong! Happy Anniversary and wishing many more! I wish this could be updated with the 7 crown wins they just accomplished, not to mention performing for over 1 MILLION fans in 2013 (TIME and Catch Me World Tour)! TVXQ are amazing. Yunho and Changmin have re-written history, beaten their own records, and continue to soar! Congratulations!
I would trust Jung Yunho with my life...whatever he does, he makes the decision with his heart and head combined. I believe in him, and with him as leader, TVXQ will soar their way back to the top again, as 5 or not.
Cassie Nguyen they are on top!
they still have the highest revenue even among all these mainstream groups nowadays!!! its just unbelievable
When TVXQ appeared in the Tour, everything froze. I didnt feel anything. I kept staring at my screen and I couldnt even believe it.
Thankyou for protecting TVXQ, you guys earned it all. You brought SM into a brighter and higher company. You guys collected all the pieces and brought it together again. Its all one.
JYJ, you guys should've never left.
Homin, you should have left together with JYJ.
marie bella These KYHD lyrics sum you up.
Ha, Don’t play with people like that.
In front of me, all you do is speak of lies.
You’re such a two-faced person.
SM was treating them like shit so don’t blame them for leaving
@@turtlepacedgirl4947 I know it's an old comment section but don't you think sm also tortured homin in those years before the split? imo there must be something more substantial than the agency's treatment that made jyj left, and the cosmetic case sounds make sense
@@ebifuranism u do know sm can manipulate right? Like come on it’s obvious most idols are manipulated into staying or else lay from exo I’m sure would’ve left a long time ago
sooo heartbreaking!! good thing...the 2 still made it, even if jyj left them. changmin & yunho!! fighthing!!
I'm glad to see Yunho and Changmin are happy, enjoy every single moments of the journey with a big smile . TVXQ, keep going stronger and bring their best for the fans...
TVXQ=Yunho+Changmin fighting!!! ......We always support both of you.
We Are T !!!
this made me cry again because of what happened they will always be my first fandom
Congratulations Yunho and Changmin for TVXQ 10th Anniversary!!!
We are T!
TVXQ are Yunho and Changmin!
Thank you for protecting TVXQ and we will always by your side!
Everything this video says about the new TVXQ is so true. Hard work never betrays them. They are such role models for me. Successfully went through the chaos and still stand firm on their original dreams up until now. I am so proud of TVXQ!
Anyway, I was never thankful of the separation. I never thanked the three who left for leaving Yunho and Changmin. But I'm grateful that the new TVXQ soars higher after the three left. So i guess now I can finally thank them for leaving TVXQ :) lol I wish the three of them a long lasting prosperity :)
JYJ fans are also thankful they left too! They can now finally have their own say in whatever they want and do not want. No longer puppets being controlled! Oh! Did I also mentioned all the fortunes they've acquired these past years after leaving? The 3 boys are ALWAYS on the list of the riches idols in Korea . Junsu even owns his own resort in jeju lol! This will never happen if they continued to stay. They are living the best times of their lives now! So what with the ban and cockblocking? Their albums and concerts still sells like hotcakes lol😏😏😏 BEST DECISION MADE BY JYJ!
+misssasa829 So, they must live this life happily. Sometimes, being rich can buy happiness too.
+Aziera Hassan yes of coz they will continue to live life happily. What's not to? Happiness is being with members who had the exact same mindset, stayed together amongst the hardships, bounce back together and stay strong. Having all the freedom is definitely a blessing too. JYJ has that all! Oh! Able to earn lots to put food on the table is a bonus too 😊
+misssasa829 I think +Aziera Hassan was being sarcastic.
TVXQ are happy too and have freedom. Everything they do is their choice down to the choice NOT to leave with JYJ. They are rich too, yet don't show off. And money wasn't their motivation in the choices they made. They are also happy with each other because they share the same mindset too. They shared hardships which weren't even caused by themselves. Through the hard times and undeserved severe bashing they continued TVXQ as this video proves and became more successful than the group with five members making them very rich but more importantly succeeding where many doubted they ever would. We would never have seen what great performers they were if JYJ were still in the group.
One question, Are you saying JYJ could not put food on the table when they were in SM? So why is it Yunho and Changmin who got paid the same money as JYJ were not broke? Sorry, that is two questions!
+Siimwe Yeap i do know she was being sarcastic. Couldn't you tell I was too? I am never one to bash homin unless I see mindless TVXQ fans throwing accusations towards JYJ. And the very comment I replied pissed me off. Don't forget they started out as 5 and all had credits in making DBSK a legend so don't go around discrediting the other 3 just because they left. And no, if you wanna compare fortunes, homin is not on JYJ's level definitely. And along the years, you could actually tell homin was no longer as happy as before and this is especially true for changmin. I've been with them for almost 10 years so you don't have to reason out between the 5 with me coz I see it very clearly.
I've almost given up on this fandom. Really, I practically lost contact with all the fellow Cassies I used to go back and forth with thru emails and PMs, didn't watch any DBSK videos for 2 years and never even googled "DBSK" for those 2 years. I dropped off the DBSK fandom. And you guys know why? Because of fans bashing each other and their mothers. I just couldn't take it. And I am 100% sure that there are A LOT of others like me. But unlike them, I looked back. I missed them and one day, on a whim, went to youtube and typed "DBSK". I watched a video of the 5 of them laughing, and I cried like a baby for 2 hours. I really missed them. I'm glad I came back, but I didn't regret leaving the fandom for a little while.
My advice to all fellow Cassies: Maximize the love, minimize the hate. Hate makes people that are fans become ex-fans, and future fans become EXO fans, lol, sorry had to do it x3 Like what it says on Jaejoong's tattoo: Deferto Neminem. Accuse NO MAN, not SOO MAN. Lol...sorry, it was right there. But you guys know what I mean right? Lighten up, don't be so grumpy and finger-point-y and just enjoy the boys. I enjoy them almost every night... *cough*
Cassiopeia was a fanclub created for tvxq. Tvxq is now Yunho and Changmin. Jyj were once part of tvxq but they left of their own free will. When they left they didn't just leave Sm and tvxq, they left the fanclub as well. Its because of them that there is so much confusion with ot5's because as long as jyj are attached to the name Cassiopeia, there is still a connection between the two groups. Aren't jyj supposed to be out of tvxq completely including the fanclub? Its time for them to form...
M soo touched and i wish them from the bottom of my heart..........their great success🏆
Love & respect for tvxq ....its 2020 & homin are still together sharing the same dream..im a kpoper from 2017 ....see tvxq you didnt even have to promote ....we will find you...true kpopers will always find you & support you ..... Love from a bd exol 💛
The cause of break up of TVXQ is due to SM Entertainment management ill treatments of their artists. Instead of giving their artists some right to express what they would like to do they were forced to do only what SM wanted to do. And also these artists were over worked not having time to recuperate and not compensated enough for all their hard works. It's sad that they broke up but at the same time I'm so happy for JYJ because they have control over how they want to express their music and they are happy and doing well. I'm also happy for remaining members of TVXQ because they are also doing well. So everyone should happy for all 5 musically talented hard working members of JYJ and FVXQ.
***** If they had a 13-year contract, tell me how could they renew 5 times, tremendous liar, if you lie about it, I can say for everything else you write, there is no logic in your argument
I understand that your comment is supposed to defense jyj and blamed on everything to SM.but at the same time it also shows how great and selfless Yunho and Changmin are for Cassies.
i am a Cassiopeia since 2005, until now even. The struggling were so real back on those times, i remember my fellow cassies r like losing their hope, refusing to eat, to go to school, tears are everywhere... for me personally, they are so precious because i feel like i can reach my dream as long as i work hard and work hard just like they did. 2009 is such a dark year for every Cassie on that time, why because we hang on to something we tried so hard to believe yet we know eventually they would split up. Always keep the faith means so much to us because everywere they go, no matter what they choose to become, Cassiopeia wil always support the 5 of them.
+Niwa Ayano Always keep the faith is not a TVXQ slogan. Its a JYJ slogan and it has nothing to do with TVXQ getting back together.
Jaejoong:- *The always keep the faith tattoo I have on my front is about my desire to protect my beliefs.* princejj.com/2012/09/11/trans-history-and-meaning-of-jaejoongs-tattoos/
Cassiopeia is not a fanclub for five members, it is a TVXQ fanclub that only Yunho and Changmin are members of. JYJ walked out of the group, fanclub and everything else that belonged to TVXQ and SM. They formed their own group and their own fanclub that they refuse to name for obvious reasons. Those are the facts as they are.
Yes girl, we'll keep the faith.
Always 5.
Nathalia Ribeiro
You're wrong and everything I said was factually true but if you want to stay delusional then of course that is your choice. Why choose delusion over reality though? What do you get out of it? Is the reality that harsh for you?
I like two man’s TVXQ !!!
Please dont say that they stopped sharing their dream. J*J never planned to breal dbsk, they only asked to end the slave contracts.
Dont living in the past...move on to make a bright futures...yunho changmin fighting \>..
2017
I'm crying...
Waiting for Changmin and still love this group
SM changed their contracts because they were found out. stop defending them. it worked out for Yunho and Changmin. it's a GOOD thing FTC ordered them to change their contracts for crying out loud. now they get to choose what projects they do and reject ones they don't. and if anything (and i hope to god it doesn't) ever happened to them, they could leave, without paying the ridiculous charges they would've incurred originally.
I love TVXQ they sing very well I get the felling of their's songs
That was beautiful!!!
Its because of Yunho and Changmin that TVXQ name is not something in the past. Its them that making the name as present,not something as the history.
Its true the now TVXQ isn't the same as before,but the now TVXQ is still breaking the record and create the new achievement.TVXQ had became my pride since 8 years ago and and it never ceased to be so until now.
TVXQ is ALIVE and its all due to the effort of only Yunho and Changmin.Thats enough for me as fan,and i'm grateful to Yunho and Changmin.
i just can say thank you..thank you..thank you TILL THE END OF WORLD..❤❤
BEAUTIFUL!
This is absolutely beautiful!! I love these guys...(all 5 of them still)
nevertheless. in my mind the one who at fault here is Sm. only if they've treated their artists better. none of this incident will be happened .of course SM plays a big role for tvxq's fame but don't forget that the ex-ceo.LSM become one of top stockholder in Korea. well nothing comes free right.yunho and changmin are the best as they can withstand all the hardships after tvxq break up but jyj are strong and brave as the fight with the ex-company .now,they have their own path.whatever they do. let's support them as best as we can.
***** if that is ur opinion.then that's it. AND i'm not biased to anyone like someone did. i said homin are the best. but if jyj don't have the gut to do so. then why they still insisted to against the big company even though they know they will face big obstacles after the law suit. eg: they were banned from being broadcast at all. i'm blaming SM, not jyj/homin. believe SM as you wish. and i'm a cassie that believe all the 5 boys.
***** okay then. you are the best cassie. you are the most hard working one. thank you for your effort. just continue your life like this. it suits you the best :)
max junnie Youre right, why we should be in other sides? why we shouldnt support them as 5? but i didnt asked by some of Changmin&Yunho's butthurted fans and i just hate SM,
INTELLIGENT GIRL, YOU ALL REASON
***** What a pathetic Homin's butthurt fan are you i dont wanna argue with shitty girls or boys like you i just made my reply, yes i hate SM so what? but you hating Jaejoong Yuchun Junsu, you are not real fan or something, you dont care about members, lol look at your pro pic, youre just hardcore Homin fan, so i dont wanna argue with annoying girls like you so shut up
They are so precious!
I will continue to love and support TXVQ as two, and I can't wait for their Korean comeback!! This was a wonderful video, thank you for translating and sharing =)
Don't get me wrong: I love Changmin and Yunho, and I support TVXQ just as much as I support JYJ. That being said, I hate it when people credit ONLY HoMin for TVXQ's success. Like for their 10th year anniversary when people say "Changmin and Yunho have worked so hard!" TVXQ's success didn't begin in 2010. TVXQ has been successful since they debuted in 2003. And although JYJ is no longer a part of TVXQ, and they don't deserve any of the credit for everything that TVXQ has done since the split up, they still left just as much an imprint in the world as HoMin did. Don't act like they never existed.
jyj celebrate stop at 6th anniversary but later on it's all about Yunho and Changmin,so Yunho and Changmin deserve to celebrate 10th anniversary because they are TVXQ since debut
Y3Kletsgo i get that and i completely agree, jyj isn't a part of TVXQ, but they still deserve credit for all the great things they did while in TVXQ.
***** i understand, i just feel like a lot of time people act like TVXQ have always just been Changmin and Yunho, and that JYJ never even wanted to be a part of the group, and that upsets me a bit. But I get that it's best to not mention JYJ because of the chaos it causes.
what you said is 100% true
I am really glad youve said this! I think that HoMin get more credit than the group as a whole, and its irritating i think. As those two, ten years ago, i dont think they wouldve made he impact rhe 5 of them did. Yes, jyj left after 6 years, but that doesnt mean they were never part of tvxq.
And this video was really biased, outrageously. They made it sound like jyj intentionally left tvxq to hurt the group and HoMin, which i can not imagine is the case.
I know that seeing them as 5 again is impossible, but we have to remember them as 5, accept that they chose different roads, and go on accepting AND remembering then together and them as they are now.
Happy 10th Anniversary DBSK!!
DBSK with the 5 members still exist in my mind. Cassie will always support the five members not just 2 or 3. I don't know how i can change from that idea since i've been believing this for 5 years already.
No, juz let JYJ go... They created SHITS, n, yet, u still want to back up them... Oh, no...
with YH and CM forever..
You should submit this for the fan made video session of homin's concert. This will surely bring tears to all cassies out there.. Such a beautiful video 😢 TVXQ hwaiting! -from a ten-year cassie ❤️
OMG, this make me cry, especially those music choice that you chose for the video. It just makes the whole storytelling all the more powerful and emotional. Go TVXQ!!!
This is beautiful and it made me cry but I still pity JYJ as well..they all must have been hurting so much..All the best TVXQ.. ^-^
Heart moving Video.
as soon as the video start, i also start crying
I am proud how far, both groups, TVXQ and JYJ have come. Both groups went through so much within the years. We all know, the three other members in their hearts, didnt want to leave in the first place, and that they didnt want to leave the other two. But they did what they thought was right, FOR THEMSELVES. For changmin and yunho, of course it was really hard for them to accept that, this was really happening. It was really shocking for them and heartbreaking. But instead of leaving such a legendary group in the dust, they decided that they wanted to keep the name known. And we are all glad they did. They showed us how much they have grew over the past 2 years and a half without the other 3 beside them. It was such a challenge for them cause us fans and other people didnt believe that they could bring TVXQ back alive like it was back then. But they showed us they could and that, they eventually did. For the other 3 members, it was also hard for them too. All they wanted to do was start fresh but, the battle between them and SM, brought so many challenges to them, it just slapped them in the face. Yet they didnt give up on what they wanted to do, and they didnt give up on us fans. They kept going forward cause they knew they would eventually see the light that was gonna lead them into their path. In all of our hearts, cassie hearts and us fans of JYJ, we all know we still believe in the 5. Even though they split, Jaejoong, Junsu, and Yoochun are still considered as TVXQ members in our hearts. If you still dont believe in the 5, your not a cassie or JYJ fan at all. Its heartbreaking that, when the incident happened, on both sides, The other 2 were considered as traitors and also the other 3 members. It was just so, frustrating and upseting that some of us fans, were going against each others fanbases. And it was also heartbreaking to see and know the 5 crying and feeling hopeless. It was just so chaotic. But now, we are all happy and glad both groups are doing so well and fine. And really happy that they stayed for us fans too. I will forever be a TVXQ fan and JYJ fan. Both groups went through so much, for themselves and us fans. All of us, should be hellaa proud of ours boys keepin it up for this damn long.
I cried watching this.
I still believe in DBSK as 5 but have come to accept them as TVXQ HoMin and JYJ.
yes, i do support both groups. I was only reminiscing Dbsk due to the video. :]
Please don't say HoMin. I really hate this. They have group name now DBSK. Face on the reality.
Tend to ignore those kind of fans. To them they're always sad,not happy, they're forcing their smiles. Even some OT5's, JYJ's TVXQ fans get annoyed with them.
This video made me cry so much! I don't know why, my heart just aches so much when watching it! I am not a TVXQ fan! I love Junsu! Funny thing is when was watching the video on JYJ & them being ban from Korean TV networks, didn't even shred a tear but here crying my eyes out! I'm never gonna take sides! I summarise myself as purely a Junsu fan. But, in the deepest part of my heart, I wish to call myself as Cassiopeia! #Waiting for DB5K to reunite# #Waiting the FIVE KINGS to come back#
Sharon Lee Cassiopeia is a Dbsk fan club and the group has two members, Yunho and Changmin. If you call yourself a Cassiopeia then you are a Yunho and Changmin fan. Dbsk does not need to reunite because all two of its members are in the group.
@@docus3009 dbsk is literally tvxq lmao if you’re a Cassie you’re a tvxq fan
I dont hate JYJ but this vid is true
+Orion You are a non- Korean speaking idiot too. You live everyday of your life bashing Yunho and Changmin. You are evil. That's what evil losers do when they stan co-evil losers. It is as clear as crystals, your greedy Oppas were the ones who left them. These swell-headed ex-members thought it was over for the 2 of them. This amazing duo proved them wrong. I pity fans like you. You are so butt hurt because the duo is doing well without them and they keep on associating themselves in TVXQ's name? What a shame! They deserted them and yet they still want to be part of the name the duo tried so hard to preserve, it's pride and glory? Go to your Oppas vids, cry with all your might while listening to their boring music. That's the only thing you can do now. . . cry over a spilled milk. :P
Dear Orion, you need life, friends, and parents. go get a life
Thank you TVXQ for making who I am now🥺🥺 you guys are my light... I will always be your fan even tho you guys far apart from each other ... I will still love all 5 of you😭😭😭❤️❤️
Yasss!!! TVXQ are Yunho and Changmin... We Are T forever❤❤❤
🙋🏻♀️. From. 🇺🇸. 2019. Beautiful tribute to the courage of not giving up. And look at you now 👏👏 Still performing with your own uniquely dynamic style. Thank you entertaining us who love you and hope for longevity in your music career.🎶🎧 🙆🏻♀️❣️
the FTC change their guidelines because k-pop has come a hell of a long way since 1996 and is constantly changing. agencies are constantly changing the ways they sign artists, the way they treat artists and the way they make contracts. that's natural, by the way.
This is not bias for me because they are telling the tvxq story if the title said tvxq-jyj then they would include the other three members point of view. This is my opinion tho
it's a big dream for the 5 of them to be together in 1 stage again..but at least i hope they have a good relationship even though they never meet each other for a long time..
This made me cry big old ugly tears. Thank you so much for this beautiful video!
Keep the faith!
They are wonderful I love the music
+marie bella
Do you see how impossible it is to reply you with a short reply? You made too many false allegations against TVXQ
Thank u !!!! Yunho and Changmin
For still being here, protect the name TVXQ
Without you, the name TVXQ would have been gone by now, no new generation kpop-er can know about the true legend of KPOP - TVXQ
So thank u from the bottom of heart
" Through the hard time, we're still standing here, we are DBSK/TVXQ "
as much as I miss changmin and yunho, I miss the blogger who translated this video, Precious
We can say he was the initiator of voicing the facts, internationally, for the sake of TVXQ who had been in silent back then (2009-2011) and whose name had been tarnished as a traitor because of the 3.
But, after years gone by, it's relieved thing by thing comes into light, especially for changmin and yunho, and I can't wait your comeback, tho I might not attend the concert :(
I'm curious what kind of reply you have sent me..I've got the notification but I can't see a thing..all I can read is just thank you for believing, in my notification