It's just like Cuba and every other communist dictatorship. You're the governments property, you're not a person. They're not going to give you up. Why would they? You're an asset. the people who are able to leave are more valuable assets than the ones who stay only because they don't have the resources to leave.
@pahlavi riche yep, they're basically a second-class citizen in their own country because of systemic racism. Only worse because they aren't second class. They're "last class" or 20th class or whatever. The government even treats Americans trying to move there better than they treat part of their own people.
Not gonna like i thought this was to get into iran. And i was like ok who cares nobody want to go anyways. Dangerous stuff. Probably beautiful landscape though. In some places, like all. But to get out of iran, dang. If you run u just get sent back as a refugee i guess and then punished by government. Sounds like iran could use a civil war and have the moraly correct side win. Funny history is alway shone in a positive light. Because its writen by the victor, right. Guess we can just hope that the light will shine out the ever encroaching darkness.
@@jonslg240name a leader that wasnt trump that gave their personal money when in office. He just came to mind because community notes lately. Not supposed to be a gotcha. Im saying what leader in this day in age is actually walking the talk. Its 0 or close to. Be lucky to get .5 of a person that is worthy to hold the role these days. Thats very sad. They keep all of the people occupied with petty abstract squabble like race. I see others, the same as me. Just another freakin person. Maybe having a good day but most likely not...
long story short: if the final step of ANY process is the government granting you permission to do your right then it wasn't your right, either an option or your future to begin with.
Depends, in Italy getting a firearms license requires "permission from the local police station" and they can refuse, without any reason required, and they can revoke your license and seize your weapons for any reason, at any time. Still managed to get mine. It feels more like they need that for extreme cases where a lengthy legal process to seize weapons would endanger people.
@@minefoxc4015 But that, if im not mistaken (which is probably yes) a license, not self defense which is a right or should be, idk each country is a world.
@@They_Call_Me_HeartFace self defense here is supposed to be "proportional". So if you get robbed, and the target is only your money, you cannot defend yourself. Only when your health or life is threatened you can use any means. If someone wants to take your phone at gunpoint, you cannot defend yourself unless it can be proved that your health was at risk regardless of the robbery. This has brought us to the point that police are afraid to use their guns, even against armed suspects. It doesn't help that our police are not issued less lethal, apart from batons. Usually people defending themselves from home invasions by using firearms, are jailed for "excessive force in self defense". Only recently the law has changed, which allows people to use firearms for home defense, but only at night.
@@minefoxc4015 im, absolutely, in loss of words. I expected something bad but not this bad. I thought Spain, where I live, was the only country broken enough to reach that point but Italy clearly proved me wrong and went beyond that. I seriously wish for better in that regard in Italy, thats sadly everything I can do.
I mean the USA demands big money to get rid of their citizenship and many Americans had waited for years to get their renounction of citizenship processed. it's even worse. They don't process your renounciation while you ow the IRS money...and the USA taxes it's citizens even if they don't live in the USA. So taking time to get rnounciations processed is basically a stealing money scheme the USA employs to get more tax revenue... If Iran would adopt the the USA taxation system it would be an inifinite money trick. Someone should tell the mullahs.
As an Iranian, this was the first time I've heard about it! Anyway, Iranians usually go for dual citizenship. Some bolder ones go for fugitive status but still keep the Iranian passport so that they can travel to the motherland when they feel the need for mom's food
Some "bolder" one. I live in germany and the practice of dual citizenship is widely known amongst fugitives here. They say they need to fled from their country but return to it every year for vacation. These people are everything but "bold".
@Grauer1510 bold as in accepting the fact that you might get caught and have your residence renounced, but you do it anyway. Not meant as a positive adjective here
I know of an Australian politician who have established the "exhausted all possibilities" of giving up foreign citizenship, which is a requirement to run for federal parliament because he is of Iranian descent. Edit: His name is Sam Dastyari if you're interested in looking up.
@@ThatGuyMagnum because he isn’t Iranian per se. His father may be Iranian and in Iran law, the father being Iranian is enough to grant the son citizenship regardless of birth country. So this politician may have lived in Australia for his whole life yet still have Iranian citizenship.
@@90skidcultist "Iran" is the Persian word for Persia... They always called it "Iran"... "Persia" is the English name for it... 1935 is when Reza Shah Pahlavi requested foreign delegates to use the term "Iran" as well, thus changing its official Western name from "Persia" to "Iran"
In Brazil it’s in the constitution that if you’re born in Brazilian soil, you’re a citizen. If you give up your citizenship, they give you a form where you can declare you gave it up. But because of the constitution, you can just ask for it back at any time lmao. The only reason they allow you to “give it up” is for your convenience… because technically speaking, due to the constitution, you can’t lose it.
They honestly makes sense. Many countries require you to renounce your citizenship just to get theirs even though it doesn't actually benefit anyone. Its an easy way to end up stateless if said country revoked your citizenship because it's given and not born 😅
Why do I keep finding Brazilians who love to talk about stuff like it's some exclusive quirky characteristic of their country when it's common place in dozens of countries around the world? Nothing you just said is interesting enough to preface it like "here in Brazil, we actually do this obscure thing, not sure if the rest of the works knows this method, but anyway here in Brazil we actually put salt and pepper in our meat! Incredible method right? Brazil is so different"
@@ivoc3993Here in Brazil we do actually put salt and pepper in our meat, it's kinda revolutionary to be honest but wait you guys around the world have meat? 😨😨😨😨😨
@@marmitacomunista5247 yeah man wait until you find out that there were no cows, horses, sheep and chicken in the Americas, they were introduced by Portugal and Spain so you're welcome
My friend who is Iranian successfully gave up his citizenship, his dad is Iranian and her mom is an Indonesian immigrant who lived in Canada for a long time, he does not know how to speak Persian nor Arabic, the only reason he had any Iranian citizenship in the first place was because he was born in Iran, the Iranian government agreed to remove his citizenship simply because he does not know any of their languages and literally speaks English with a perfect american/canadian accent.
@@onesevenninewest step 8: wait for your leader to get assassinated by a supposedly weaker neighbor, blame them, let the west protect the said weaker neighbor, send an ultimatum that no way will be agreed upon, start a great war, make the war a stalemate, eventually lose the war, get an ideology that will make the world hate you, start taking lands from your neighbors, let one of your neighbors get protected, start another great war, win for a few years, lose the war, get split up, wait for reunification. And just like that, democracy.
@electroAM but if they are to say say move to that country then ask for it now the Iranian government. Would be more likely to do so since either way just stay in the country or idk maybe?😅
Not at all. Each country has it's own rules about citizenship. Whatever another country decides is completely not relevant, except maybe some countries won't strip you of your citizenship if that makes you stateless.
Damn it took me a full year trying to get my passport here before i finished my military service. The government services employee's would just lie to me and direct me to someone who was irrelevant to my request and just throw me in an endless loop of delivering papers from one ministry to the other! Until i finally managed to find someone in the inside of the ministry of foreign affairs and he helped me by making a few phone calls. If you're a normal guy trying to get his passport before completing your mandatory military service you're either have to be really lucky or have contacts that can pull some strings for you. Not to mention the mandatory safety deposit you have to leave behind wich can vary between 300 to 500 dollars which is determined by the type of traveling you're going to have, you get to leave the country for a maximum of 1 month and you have to notify the relevant authorities when you're back in the country.
@@AhnafAbid-g8f Ah yes, the state has definitely never shot anyone in Iran. It's definitely not something that constantly gets international coverage.
Being an Iranian is like being in a relationship with an abusive country. First it makes your life a living hell, then it does its best not to let you leave with its useless passport and currency, and _if_ you manage get past all the hurdles and leave, it makes it costly as hell, and even after you've left, you will be haunted by its bad reputation and nightmares everywhere you go for the rest of your life.
@Ardashir The Great Calling the British Empire poor is like calling Modern Day US economy bad. The British empire were one of the most powerful empires to exist, They definitely were not poor. Resource wise, The Main Islands might be lacking but they had vast resources gained through their incredible Military and Trading prowess. As well as their land spanning multiple continents. Progress of anything requires research. And research requires funds. Military research and advancement of weapons require an incredible amount of funding that Nations without money definitely couldn't do at the level the British Empire did. So yeah, they British Empire was fucking loaded when compared to others in that time period. I might not be a fan of the whole colonisation and exploitation bit of their rise to power, But you've got to admit, They were pretty incredible.
@Ardashir The GreatThe Bengal Region was not wealthier than The British Empire, Let alone the whole of Europe. Bengal, while prosperous in its own right, did not possess the same level of economic power as the British Empire. Bengal was an important region for trade and had a thriving agricultural and textile industry, but its wealth was relatively localized. It had economic links with other regions, but it did not have the extensive global reach and economic dominance that the British Empire had. Their incredible economical prowess gained through extensive colonisation efforts of resource rich regions like North America, Africa etc. Made them one of the strongest powerhouses of the 18th century. And about Bengal being richer than whole of Europe, That was also very much not true, Just as I've said before. Although the Bengal Region was prosperous enough to be wealthier than many European powers, Lots of european countries were richer than Bengal. The Dutch Republic, also known as the Netherlands, was one such European power. The Dutch Republic had a robust economy and was known for its global trade dominance, particularly in the 17th century. Dutch merchants and companies, such as the Dutch East India Company, engaged in extensive trade with Asia, including the Indian subcontinent. While the Dutch presence in Bengal was not as pronounced as that of the British, their economic power and wealth surpassed that of Bengal. Another European power that could be considered wealthier than Bengal during the 18th century were the Spanish. Spain had accumulated vast wealth from its colonies in the Americas, particularly through the extraction of precious metals like gold and silver. This influx of wealth from the New World contributed to Spain's economic prosperity and made it one of the wealthiest European powers of the time. So yeah, Get your head out of the illusion you've created for yourself.
Years ago Germany had stricter laws against dual citizenship. But even then one execption was inability or undue hardship to drop the other. This included cases like Iran, but also US, where it costs several thousands of dollars.
I was scrolling through the comments hoping there'll be a country that realizes that countries that make it impossible to leave are awful and honestly shouldn't have their citizenships taken seriously. Like if someone sold all their holdings, paid past debts, doesn't have a criminal record, cut all ties, and took off with their family, it seems pretty clear they have nothing to do with their past life.
@@Dovenchiko even with a criminal record, this are countries that can not be trusted. A felony that made you spend 20 years in prison might be making a joke, smoking a joint or being gay.
$2350 ain't that much... It's like 1.5 paychecks from an entry-level factory job... The only hard part about it is finding the time to do all the paperwork properly... The US wants you to be SURE because it is PERMANENT... They also want to avoid a lawsuit later from you claiming that you didn't renounce citizenship and have been unlawfully denied certain rights...
My dad got lucky. He was born in Iran and when he was in medical school, he was sent permission to complete his medical school in the U.S and I don’t know how, but he was somehow able to stay here. (This was all b4 he meet my mom and I was born). Love from the U.S 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Have you ever seen the movie ‘Not without my Daughter’? It details the struggle of an American woman to get herself and her daughter out of Iran after her Iranian husband becomes abusive. Among the struggles she faces is finding out that according to Iran under Iranian law she became an Iranian citizen the moment she married her husband. So they don’t see her as an American woman trying to return home but rather as an Iranian woman trying to abandon her country.
When the woke left thinks it's a good idea to move to a Muslim country and get married it's on them that they didn't research how barbaric these places are.
Why would you renounce your passport 🤣. There is no difference . Literally. Or you can just get a Russian citizenship and renounce iranian in a f*ing click of a mouse and then get any citizenship in the world.
@@Based-d4u uh.... Getting Russian citizenship is the easiest thing in the world. You just need to know the language. After that you have no restrictions on getting any citizenship you like. 🙄🙄🙄 And Russia is much better than Iran or Nigeria or Colombia .
@@dust_gale3108 so if you get russian citizenship your iranian citizenship immediately goes poof? what about this video which literally says you need permission and everything?
I think that even though our governments are very different I live in Canada I think that young people think the same way all over the world they're very Fed Up
@@randomworld4662 Yes and our people regret it deeply. But the Sha at the time was so weak that the people rioted in protest. The government that replaced it was way worse, which was mostly the fault of the western countries, such as the US and UK interfering at that time. The whole mess in the middle east is the fault of the US. We aren’t the reason of all these wars.
What's more problematic is that Iran considers citizenship to be hereditary. This means that someone born to Iranian parents, even outside Iran, lets say in Germany, may be regarded as an Iranian citizen by birth by the government and might be handed over an Iranian passport at the border when they ever enter the country. Many Persian migrants are concerned about this, particularly men, who may fear the risk of being drafted into the military. As a result, many just choose not to return even for vacation or family visits, which is unfortunate.
I'd seen my dad give up his Iranian citizenship in 2006. They sent him a stinker saying "even if you come here on holiday we'll prosecute you, you don't have the right" Good thing he never went back after 1980. He wanted to go to his former home once, eat the fresh cherries you get in the ancestral hometown near Shiraz. Man died in 2011. He'd say Inshallah, Azadi. Being half Iranian in India means I am the human equivalent of biriyani.
@@rustomkanishka irans population is not that much... just 8 crores and most north Indians have Irani dna... none of my ancestors ever visited iran but my dna test said i ave 45% neolithic irani farmer dna i am not from north India i am from Kolkata
My girlfriend's dad is from Iran. They're a Jewish family and fled the country in 1979, first to Israel, then USA. We still love the culture, but not the government. Love to India 🇮🇳🧡
I know Iranians who were denied entry back into Iran because they visited Israel. For my barber and his family it worked out well because they have no desire to return to that hellhole
@@eylon1967 Israel does background checks on citizens from those countries but they can enter Israel if there are no red flags. Israel doesn't even stamp the passport now anymore so that those living in Muslim countries who don't have ties with Israel, could travel to Israel with no repercussions
@@historyandmusic8646 no you don't. An Israeli-Russian woman was just abducted in Iraq because she entered with her Russian passport but was still technically an Israeli citizen. The government warned her not to go
They’re not preventing you from leaving, they’re preventing you from giving up citizenship. Some countries will only let you become a citizen if you give up any prior citizenship. So this would make it impossible for you to become a citizen there.
I could be wrong but you could, in theory, renounce it by asking a different country for citizenship. To give an example, Japan doesn't allow dual citizenship. If you want Japanese citizenship, you need to renounce any other citizenship you have. The Iranian government might still recognise you as an Iranian citizen but the Japanese government won't in theory
Of course, the described process is only what the Iranian government thinks how the process goes. I think the process goes, you throw passport into the fire and be done with it. The Japanese government probably thinks something like, give old passport to immigration office, get new one, or something like that.
@@kadirzhanl "... for a lot of money" - so this would be relevant for only a very small number of Iranians who seek a new citizenship. Most Iranian refugees surely don't have that money.
I'm from northern Iran 🇮🇷 ( rasht ) and i have completed My military service or ارتش now I'm at my final year into the maritime institute And I'm hoping after all this i can move somewhere good like The united states or Canada And hopefully get citizenship 😬 i just want to get out of this hell hole And start my life and maritime Job somewhere good that won't kill you because you disagree with them 😅😂 Also getting rid of My citizenship is very important for me.
@@santinosalamanca4378 not only sounds, but İS economy is total horse ******, inflation is OFF THE CHARTS, no social media (not even Whatsapp for god's sake)
hey im an immigrant from Iran so I left before I could do military service so I still have iranian citizenship. Even if you go through this process you still can't leave the country. I won a lottery that allowed me to leave.
At this point with the supervillains trying to end everyone that is not in their club. The wilds or even living in a bunker is looking a lot more attractive now more than ever. 🤣🤣🤣
Most countries are not good to live in for differing reasons and none is perfect 'EVER', but some are completly daunting and literally hopeless to live in.
If they were a traitor to the Iranian « Republic » (Republic is a bit…. unfitting with recent events), why would they keep the factor that makes you an Iranian, and make you stay in Iran, as a traitor who supposedly doesn’t have any respect for it (in the authoritarian Iran’s eyes)?
Because you stop being a traitor when you stop being a citizen. As you can't be traitor to a nation you aren't even part of and aren't loyal to. If they keep you as a citizen they can keep tabs on you and abuse you and have plausible deniability as "keeping track of a traitorous citizen".
From what I've seen, totalitarian governments always try to keep people trapped in the country and use fear to keep them subservient. If people could just renounce their citizenship and leave the country, then the populace wouldn't live in fear of the government, they'd just leave.
Take it from someone who has visited there a few times: They love control. They want to be able to control you somehow and the citizenship is the best way. They want to be able to detain you, torture you and maybe even kill you without other countries being able to interfere (which is why they don't recognise dual citizenship either). As you mentioned yourself, it's authoritarian, they do love their authority over you as a human being.
Same in Romania. The president or prime minister (dont remember which) has to sign your renounciation. Yeah good luck getting them to personally sign your stuff.
@@UhrBushaltestelle for the most part,yeah.but some content like pornography and some websites like RUclips are filtered and can only be accessed by a VPN.
My friend’s father was a commercial airline pilot in Iran in the late 70s or early 80s. One day he and a copilot flew to Japan and said fuck it we’re defecting. He eventually settled in the US but he couldn’t contact his family for years in fear of retaliation against them. Eventually everyone was able to make it to the US.
The problem: If you ever visit - family, friends, or to see your birthplace - you can fear for what may happen to you as you are just an ordinary citizen. It is different from the situation of a EU-citizen or a US citizen gettung into trouble there.
Any other country whose police doesn't officially cooperate with the Iranian police will be pissed if Iran arrested one of their citizens for the wrong reasons. Heck, even if the other state recognizes the reason for the arrest as a legitimate crime, it still often causes a diplomatic crisis, for instance if they don't agree with the intended punishment (eg. death penalty or torture) or when the evidence presented does not convince them of their citizen's guilt. Legally prosecuting foreign citizen can be a very tricky and delicate affair.
Very true, but we've seen that it does happen that the Iranian government detains foreign nationals and holds them in terrible conditions until a deal is made. Very recently a Belgian NGO-worker was imprisoned there for months until the Belgian government agreed to exchange him for an Iranian national convicted for terrorist activities...
@@jphenry3404 sure... I dont see, how that would be an argument against having Iranian citizenship being a bad thing when visiting Iranian jurisdiction.
Had my Australian passport stolen in Iran, the nightmare you have to go thru to get an EMERGENCY PASSPORT is disgrace. Authorities makes things very very difficult for absolutely no reason, an officer was very suspicious and said we have lost our passport intentionally 😕😕. The taxi driver kicked me out of his taxi because I was speaking foreign language to my brother in Australia. It doesn't get more racist.
Have fun when you run into the authorities where you flee to. Even if you live under a rock and don't go out much, you need money to eat and you will be taking a major risk when you get paid. There are some semi-anonymous ways to get paid through various apps, but it is difficult and requires the person paying you to agree to help a criminal. So, sure, go ahead. You are an illegal immigrant. Now you have to eat. Now what?
Anyone who thinks of someone renouncing their citizenship as a “traitor” should not be allowed within 50 miles of any process that could give them any ability to decide such cases. What the actual fuck is wrong with humanity. At this point there should just be some internationally recognized process to “renounce” your citizenship some other way for anything that requires it, regardless of what Iran says, and they can go cry about it if they don’t like it, because this is unjustifiable on any level.
Bruh tell that to American South back then in the 19th century. They wanted to secede from the Union but they are labelled traitors and got invaded instead.
@@kaikart123 I think you’re missing a few very important parts. 1. They didn’t leave, they tried to force the US to give up the territory. Major difference. You have a right to leave, but not to make the country itself leave. 2, and VASTLY more important but also more situational: they were TRYING TO PRESERVE SLAVERY. ANYTHING done for that sake should be crushed without hesitation. They weren’t just traitors to the US- in trying to preserve slavery they were traitors to humanity itself. Good things are in fact different from bad things
I wonder how that works for Iranians who want to become Austrian citizens? (Could be thinking of the wrong country, but…) I believe they require you to give up your original citizenship in order to become a citizen.
Especially when you consider that most Iranian citizens who moved to Austria or Germany, etc. are refugees who have fled from the Iranian state ... They surely can't expect any help from the same administration that they had to escape from.
Some countries have back-up rules that exclude citizenships which are intentionally designed to be near impossible to revoke e.g. Iranian citizenship. Not sure if Austria does though.
That’s correct: Austria 🇦🇹. And they require an authenticated letter of acceptance of citizenship renunciation. But let’s say you are successful, if Austria finds out that you were in trouble with the law at any moment in your 10 year residency, even many driving fines or a suspended license, they can deny your citizenship application and you’ll be a person without a country and you’ll have to apply as a person without a country until your brilliant lawyer somehow helps you become a citizen, after 5 years of court hearings appeals and thousands of Euros In Lawyer fees. 😂 Austria is no piece of cake to become a citizen. Even if you want to buy Austrian citizenship, after meeting all criteria (clean record, have a lot of assets, etc) they then say ‘Okay that’ll be € 10Million!’ 🤣 it’s basically an “F-you, it’s not for sale.”
I actually know someone who just left Iran. They still try to bill him and try to get him back. But till they physically come to canada and remove him. He won't go back
It's just like trying to legally buy a gun in Brazil. It's an extremely long and expensive process that can take years and the last step is presenting the authorities with a good reason as to why you need a gun. Then they decide if they like your reason enough to say yes or no (or they just ignore you).
Do a video on why Morocco won't ever let you go, because as a Moroccan I wonder why. And no, I don't plan on getting rid of my citizenship, that's just idiotic.
Hey man i am an Iranian and the smallest help in iran would change peoples lives. For example one American dollar right now worths around half a million Iranian rial. So if you want to help it would mean the world to us. Thank you very much
@@gravy3858 I would tell you to attend protests or give donations but at this point nothing seems to be working. We need the help of Europe or America, someone who would start a war. Without the incursion of an outside secular influence, we are helpless.
I feel you bro, I have Russian citizenship which is equally bad nowadays. However, if it doesn't stop you from traveling and getting residence permits in other countries, it's not that bad
The chess kid had to runaway from Iran just to play a tournament because Iran didn't want him competing against Israelis in the tournament. You think that if Iran hates Israel so much they would want to beat them at chess which is a much better option than real war .
Turkey also makes it rather difficult. At least if you haven't done the military service. Thing is that they automatically give citizenship if either of your parents have it. Friend of mine is not able to go to Turkey because he would be arrested for dodging the military service. His father dealt with the same problem (also had dual citizenship) so gave up his citizenship after paying off his military service (rather expensive). But his mother didn't. And my friend refuses to pay up just so he can visit distant cousins in Turkey. According to him: "I'll just never again go to that shithole".
Paying off his military service would be no big deal with today's eur/tl exchange rate. Turkey is not exactly a shthole, only shtty things are the government and the economy. He should just pay it up and get rid of the citizenship and go on a vacation to Marmaris LMAO
being an iranian is a curse this hell hole just takes from you (your life,happiness,money,freedom,dignity, dreams every thing) if any body in western think there life is hard remember 80 million iranian exist(yes exist not living ) in iran
Sad.. i work as an engineer (semiconductor) and i have coworkers from Iraq (most common), Afghanistan, Syria, and Saudi Arabia. They are all PROUD (SUPER PROUD) Americans now but i work/know no one from Iran. It is possible to leave but there are barriers. I wish the best for all the good men out their and their families.
That military service is not like a military service from other countries, it's more like a unsafe prison 😂. You can not eat good quality food You may get killed in borders You may get killed by road accidents And... And most importantly your main task is just cleaning toilets Basically that 2 years will pass like 5 years. Many saying that, their character after and befor military service has a huge difference.
Apparently it can be a way to punish the "traitor" even after he left the country... for example by preventing him from obtaining the citizenship of the country that he's living in now.
By allowing a "traitor" to renounce their citizenship of your state, you give up your legal authority over them and thus your ability to punish them for their "betrayal", should they ever set foot into your territory (or an allied country that agreed to arrest and extradite people for you) again. Hence they don't do that.
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It's just like Cuba and every other communist dictatorship.
You're the governments property, you're not a person.
They're not going to give you up. Why would they? You're an asset. the people who are able to leave are more valuable assets than the ones who stay only because they don't have the resources to leave.
@pahlavi riche yep, they're basically a second-class citizen in their own country because of systemic racism.
Only worse because they aren't second class. They're "last class" or 20th class or whatever.
The government even treats Americans trying to move there better than they treat part of their own people.
You should’ve have to complete military service or give up real estate .
Not gonna like i thought this was to get into iran. And i was like ok who cares nobody want to go anyways. Dangerous stuff. Probably beautiful landscape though. In some places, like all. But to get out of iran, dang. If you run u just get sent back as a refugee i guess and then punished by government. Sounds like iran could use a civil war and have the moraly correct side win. Funny history is alway shone in a positive light. Because its writen by the victor, right. Guess we can just hope that the light will shine out the ever encroaching darkness.
@@jonslg240name a leader that wasnt trump that gave their personal money when in office. He just came to mind because community notes lately. Not supposed to be a gotcha. Im saying what leader in this day in age is actually walking the talk. Its 0 or close to. Be lucky to get .5 of a person that is worthy to hold the role these days. Thats very sad. They keep all of the people occupied with petty abstract squabble like race. I see others, the same as me. Just another freakin person. Maybe having a good day but most likely not...
POV: you’re trying to cancel your Amazon prime membership
Iran and Bezos, dark pattern buddies!
It only takes two steps to cancel your membership
Adobe subscriptions are worse
@@kamal01Yes,
1) open the digital cancellation form
and
2) sell your soul.
@@kamal01 bro forgot to add 2 0's
If the final step of a process is "permission" then it's probably not an easy process
Did you just not watch the video?
@@Legitpride69420I accept your apology
@@Legitpride69420 indeed
@@Legitpride69420 it's okay, and if it's not, it will be okay... you are loved.
@@Legitpride69420 oh... You're British?
long story short: if the final step of ANY process is the government granting you permission to do your right then it wasn't your right, either an option or your future to begin with.
Depends, in Italy getting a firearms license requires "permission from the local police station" and they can refuse, without any reason required, and they can revoke your license and seize your weapons for any reason, at any time. Still managed to get mine. It feels more like they need that for extreme cases where a lengthy legal process to seize weapons would endanger people.
@@minefoxc4015 But that, if im not mistaken (which is probably yes) a license, not self defense which is a right or should be, idk each country is a world.
@@They_Call_Me_HeartFace self defense here is supposed to be "proportional". So if you get robbed, and the target is only your money, you cannot defend yourself. Only when your health or life is threatened you can use any means. If someone wants to take your phone at gunpoint, you cannot defend yourself unless it can be proved that your health was at risk regardless of the robbery. This has brought us to the point that police are afraid to use their guns, even against armed suspects. It doesn't help that our police are not issued less lethal, apart from batons. Usually people defending themselves from home invasions by using firearms, are jailed for "excessive force in self defense". Only recently the law has changed, which allows people to use firearms for home defense, but only at night.
@@minefoxc4015 im, absolutely, in loss of words. I expected something bad but not this bad. I thought Spain, where I live, was the only country broken enough to reach that point but Italy clearly proved me wrong and went beyond that.
I seriously wish for better in that regard in Italy, thats sadly everything I can do.
@@minefoxc4015someone pointing a gun at you is a clear risk to your health though 😂
There are actually THREE links for forms on the renunciation of citizenship page … and each link leads to that same “404 Not Found” message.
Is there some other unofficial pirate site where you can download them?
@@M0rtanius can't find it
@@M0rtaniushow is it a pirate website
they’re asking “is” not claiming “it’s”, please reread
I mean the USA demands big money to get rid of their citizenship and many Americans had waited for years to get their renounction of citizenship processed.
it's even worse. They don't process your renounciation while you ow the IRS money...and the USA taxes it's citizens even if they don't live in the USA.
So taking time to get rnounciations processed is basically a stealing money scheme the USA employs to get more tax revenue...
If Iran would adopt the the USA taxation system it would be an inifinite money trick.
Someone should tell the mullahs.
Iranian citizenship has curse of binding on it
True
"Just die and respawn duh period 💅💅💅💅"
The Binding Of Isaac- i mean, The Binding Of Iran.
You should consider checking out North Korea
so if you die it goes away
As an Iranian, this was the first time I've heard about it! Anyway, Iranians usually go for dual citizenship. Some bolder ones go for fugitive status but still keep the Iranian passport so that they can travel to the motherland when they feel the need for mom's food
Some countries do not allow dual citizenship.
@@dumant7975Many of those have exception for citizenships that it is almost impossible to renounce, such as the Iranian one.
Some "bolder" one.
I live in germany and the practice of dual citizenship is widely known amongst fugitives here.
They say they need to fled from their country but return to it every year for vacation.
These people are everything but "bold".
@Grauer1510 bold as in accepting the fact that you might get caught and have your residence renounced, but you do it anyway. Not meant as a positive adjective here
This right here is the problem with western society. Shite like this is possible, when it shouldnt be.
I know of an Australian politician who have established the "exhausted all possibilities" of giving up foreign citizenship, which is a requirement to run for federal parliament because he is of Iranian descent.
Edit: His name is Sam Dastyari if you're interested in looking up.
that sounds a bit interesting
Exactly what I was thinking! How do you run for parliament in Australia if you're Iranian?
@@ThatGuyMagnum If you're*
@@gtc239 whoops! In my defence, I'd just woken up!
@@ThatGuyMagnum because he isn’t Iranian per se. His father may be Iranian and in Iran law, the father being Iranian is enough to grant the son citizenship regardless of birth country. So this politician may have lived in Australia for his whole life yet still have Iranian citizenship.
-And how did you finally manage it?
-I ran.
Underrated
-O man, that must've been terrifying!
-Ye men were chasing me
Very punny
Why didn’t they keep the name “Persia”😭
@@90skidcultist "Iran" is the Persian word for Persia... They always called it "Iran"... "Persia" is the English name for it... 1935 is when Reza Shah Pahlavi requested foreign delegates to use the term "Iran" as well, thus changing its official Western name from "Persia" to "Iran"
In Brazil it’s in the constitution that if you’re born in Brazilian soil, you’re a citizen. If you give up your citizenship, they give you a form where you can declare you gave it up. But because of the constitution, you can just ask for it back at any time lmao. The only reason they allow you to “give it up” is for your convenience… because technically speaking, due to the constitution, you can’t lose it.
They honestly makes sense. Many countries require you to renounce your citizenship just to get theirs even though it doesn't actually benefit anyone. Its an easy way to end up stateless if said country revoked your citizenship because it's given and not born 😅
Why do I keep finding Brazilians who love to talk about stuff like it's some exclusive quirky characteristic of their country when it's common place in dozens of countries around the world? Nothing you just said is interesting enough to preface it like "here in Brazil, we actually do this obscure thing, not sure if the rest of the works knows this method, but anyway here in Brazil we actually put salt and pepper in our meat! Incredible method right? Brazil is so different"
@@ivoc3993Here in Brazil we do actually put salt and pepper in our meat, it's kinda revolutionary to be honest but wait you guys around the world have meat? 😨😨😨😨😨
@@marmitacomunista5247 yeah man wait until you find out that there were no cows, horses, sheep and chicken in the Americas, they were introduced by Portugal and Spain so you're welcome
@@ivoc3993give us back the tomato and potatoes then...
My friend who is Iranian successfully gave up his citizenship, his dad is Iranian and her mom is an Indonesian immigrant who lived in Canada for a long time, he does not know how to speak Persian nor Arabic, the only reason he had any Iranian citizenship in the first place was because he was born in Iran, the Iranian government agreed to remove his citizenship simply because he does not know any of their languages and literally speaks English with a perfect american/canadian accent.
Bro. How do you think most people have Iranian citizenship. By being born there....
"her mom"?
@@nickvang7I think, it's just a small misstype, don't mind it
@@davidchalmers6753some places don’t do citizenship by birth such as the US some places will only grant it if you apply or your parents are citizens
I'm indonesian
Imagine selling all you realstate just for some person to say NO😂
Its funny until it happens
@@hkardwst you have to laugh so you don't cry.
IK. That’s what I was thinking
Mate, it’s real estate in Iran, what’re you gonna do with it if you don’t wanna live there anyways
Might as well get some cash for it
@@whatisthisayoutubechannel But you wont leave the country if they say no. You will still live there - without your real estate.
the last is just basically every single goverment app
Step 5. Wait for a regime change
step 6. get tired of waiting and Cause a regime change
@@kilemeinocalvire9898step 7: the regime change goes wrong and we end up back where we started 😭
@@onesevenninewest step 8: wait for your leader to get assassinated by a supposedly weaker neighbor, blame them, let the west protect the said weaker neighbor, send an ultimatum that no way will be agreed upon, start a great war, make the war a stalemate, eventually lose the war, get an ideology that will make the world hate you, start taking lands from your neighbors, let one of your neighbors get protected, start another great war, win for a few years, lose the war, get split up, wait for reunification. And just like that, democracy.
@@onesevenninewest step 7. wait for another regime change with usa intervention
@@alipiodomingo7458 step 8: lose
Iran? Man, i cant even walk
Are you from iran
If you are منظورت از اینکه نمیتونم راه برم چیه؟ اگه منظورت حجاب که اوکی
HAH!
@@Hy_3123 the commentor joked that Iran when you split the name apart is I ran as in running
@@Hy_3123 الشيعه هم كفار و ليسو مسلمين
@@Hy_3123it’s a pun on the past tense of the word „run“.
As every Iranian says, living in Iran is like playing on hardcore mode.
Dawg even hardcore feels like a paradise to us
What mode is North Korea?
@@agent466 Survival
@@agent466 adventure hardcore💀
@@agent466 impossible
Easiest way to get rid of your Iranian nationality is basically getting a nationality in a place that doesn't allow dual nationality
but they need you to get rid of your current nationality, hence the problem
@electroAM but if they are to say say move to that country then ask for it now the Iranian government. Would be more likely to do so since either way just stay in the country or idk maybe?😅
@@yandere2345 no
Not at all. Each country has it's own rules about citizenship. Whatever another country decides is completely not relevant, except maybe some countries won't strip you of your citizenship if that makes you stateless.
@@Hauketal I mean ei , at least it isn't like Brazil,
You don't let me live , you don't let me die
I said as a Iranian
No
Keep suffering for your country
@@TheBlackLionTv what
It's meme it's meme a joke okay
Look at there see?
A camera
*an
@@TheBlackLionTvI’m concerned for the 16 people who liked your comment. RUclips, I guess.
Damn it took me a full year trying to get my passport here before i finished my military service. The government services employee's would just lie to me and direct me to someone who was irrelevant to my request and just throw me in an endless loop of delivering papers from one ministry to the other! Until i finally managed to find someone in the inside of the ministry of foreign affairs and he helped me by making a few phone calls. If you're a normal guy trying to get his passport before completing your mandatory military service you're either have to be really lucky or have contacts that can pull some strings for you. Not to mention the mandatory safety deposit you have to leave behind wich can vary between 300 to 500 dollars which is determined by the type of traveling you're going to have, you get to leave the country for a maximum of 1 month and you have to notify the relevant authorities when you're back in the country.
“What’s the worst that can happen? They say no?”
Council: [loads gun]
There are tortures and worse ways to die.
Why would councillors have gun😂😂. Iranian people can't carry gun that easily like Americans does
@@AhnafAbid-g8f That is true, but there are many security forces around, many of them are probably armed.
@@AhnafAbid-g8f Ah yes, the state has definitely never shot anyone in Iran. It's definitely not something that constantly gets international coverage.
@@chavzone Not like Us. School shootings, citizen gun fight doesnt happen there
Being an Iranian is like being in a relationship with an abusive country. First it makes your life a living hell, then it does its best not to let you leave with its useless passport and currency, and _if_ you manage get past all the hurdles and leave, it makes it costly as hell, and even after you've left, you will be haunted by its bad reputation and nightmares everywhere you go for the rest of your life.
@Ardashir The Great ancient
@Ardashir The Great i don't recall us having advanced weapons back then, Might be one of the reasons we got colonised
@Ardashir The Great Calling the British Empire poor is like calling Modern Day US economy bad.
The British empire were one of the most powerful empires to exist, They definitely were not poor. Resource wise, The Main Islands might be lacking but they had vast resources gained through their incredible Military and Trading prowess. As well as their land spanning multiple continents.
Progress of anything requires research. And research requires funds. Military research and advancement of weapons require an incredible amount of funding that Nations without money definitely couldn't do at the level the British Empire did.
So yeah, they British Empire was fucking loaded when compared to others in that time period.
I might not be a fan of the whole colonisation and exploitation bit of their rise to power, But you've got to admit, They were pretty incredible.
@Ardashir The GreatThe Bengal Region was not wealthier than The British Empire, Let alone the whole of Europe.
Bengal, while prosperous in its own right, did not possess the same level of economic power as the British Empire. Bengal was an important region for trade and had a thriving agricultural and textile industry, but its wealth was relatively localized. It had economic links with other regions, but it did not have the extensive global reach and economic dominance that the British Empire had.
Their incredible economical prowess gained through extensive colonisation efforts of resource rich regions like North America, Africa etc. Made them one of the strongest powerhouses of the 18th century.
And about Bengal being richer than whole of Europe, That was also very much not true, Just as I've said before. Although the Bengal Region was prosperous enough to be wealthier than many European powers, Lots of european countries were richer than Bengal.
The Dutch Republic, also known as the Netherlands, was one such European power. The Dutch Republic had a robust economy and was known for its global trade dominance, particularly in the 17th century. Dutch merchants and companies, such as the Dutch East India Company, engaged in extensive trade with Asia, including the Indian subcontinent. While the Dutch presence in Bengal was not as pronounced as that of the British, their economic power and wealth surpassed that of Bengal.
Another European power that could be considered wealthier than Bengal during the 18th century were the Spanish. Spain had accumulated vast wealth from its colonies in the Americas, particularly through the extraction of precious metals like gold and silver. This influx of wealth from the New World contributed to Spain's economic prosperity and made it one of the wealthiest European powers of the time.
So yeah, Get your head out of the illusion you've created for yourself.
@Ardashir The Great ok indian propagandist
I would be proud to be Iranian.. persian.. the proudest 🇮🇷
I want to attempt a speed run of renouncing Iranian citizenship, I think I could do an official time of 25-40 years
Na sub 30 ain't possible bro
im at 13 years I think im on top 10 pace
You can also expect to spend 25-40 years acquiring Canadian citizenship whereas others only need 4
Years ago Germany had stricter laws against dual citizenship. But even then one execption was inability or undue hardship to drop the other. This included cases like Iran, but also US, where it costs several thousands of dollars.
because of course the US found a way to drain money out of people with it.
I was scrolling through the comments hoping there'll be a country that realizes that countries that make it impossible to leave are awful and honestly shouldn't have their citizenships taken seriously. Like if someone sold all their holdings, paid past debts, doesn't have a criminal record, cut all ties, and took off with their family, it seems pretty clear they have nothing to do with their past life.
@@Dovenchiko even with a criminal record, this are countries that can not be trusted. A felony that made you spend 20 years in prison might be making a joke, smoking a joint or being gay.
$2350 ain't that much... It's like 1.5 paychecks from an entry-level factory job... The only hard part about it is finding the time to do all the paperwork properly... The US wants you to be SURE because it is PERMANENT... They also want to avoid a lawsuit later from you claiming that you didn't renounce citizenship and have been unlawfully denied certain rights...
@@benjaminmorris4962
Typical American, they always have excuses for their country but never try to give any to other countries.
My dad got lucky. He was born in Iran and when he was in medical school, he was sent permission to complete his medical school in the U.S and I don’t know how, but he was somehow able to stay here. (This was all b4 he meet my mom and I was born).
Love from the U.S 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Have you ever seen the movie ‘Not without my Daughter’? It details the struggle of an American woman to get herself and her daughter out of Iran after her Iranian husband becomes abusive. Among the struggles she faces is finding out that according to Iran under Iranian law she became an Iranian citizen the moment she married her husband. So they don’t see her as an American woman trying to return home but rather as an Iranian woman trying to abandon her country.
Yeah, they aren't immigrants, they are just abandoning their countries and their families at home.
Skill issue
Oh yeah I saw that on tiktok it’s a good movie
It's her skill issues bozo L 😂
When the woke left thinks it's a good idea to move to a Muslim country and get married it's on them that they didn't research how barbaric these places are.
How do people in the comments not know the difference between renouncing a passport and leaving the country?
I am genuinely confused as well
Why would you renounce your passport 🤣. There is no difference . Literally.
Or you can just get a Russian citizenship and renounce iranian in a f*ing click of a mouse and then get any citizenship in the world.
@@dust_gale3108dude, remove your pink glasses
@@Based-d4u uh.... Getting Russian citizenship is the easiest thing in the world. You just need to know the language.
After that you have no restrictions on getting any citizenship you like.
🙄🙄🙄
And Russia is much better than Iran or Nigeria or Colombia .
@@dust_gale3108 so if you get russian citizenship your iranian citizenship immediately goes poof? what about this video which literally says you need permission and everything?
Iran will never give you up, never gonna let you down, never gonna run around and desert you
404
Ah lmao that's why
Found the files btw
How about the *ultra-impossible* countries, like North Korea, where if you're a North Korean citizen, you can't legally leave North Korea.
You apply for citizenship as a refugee on the basis that you cannot safely return or stay in your country
You can, it's just very difficult
@@osheridan I said legally, I didn't mean illegal ways to leave the country.
@@pabblo1 there are actually special cases where you can, it's just incredibly unlikely and you have to be someone incredibly powerful
technically, the South recognizes you as a citizen, so you defect and swap passports
Iran be like "ohhhh... I won le u goooo~"
Phhhhhhhtt
In Mother Russia, citizenship renounces you
I… I think that’s called deportation😅
@@evangorski7992
No, it's exile. Deportations are only for foreigners in foreign soil.
@@evangorski7992 go to siberia men .
in mother russia jokes are funny
How can I learn this magic
Iranian here, I really love my country, but we all hate the government controlling it. Revolution is needed and its needed fast.
I think that even though our governments are very different I live in Canada I think that young people think the same way all over the world they're very Fed Up
Your ancestor did a mistake in 1979
@@randomworld4662facts.
@@randomworld4662 Yes and our people regret it deeply. But the Sha at the time was so weak that the people rioted in protest. The government that replaced it was way worse, which was mostly the fault of the western countries, such as the US and UK interfering at that time.
The whole mess in the middle east is the fault of the US. We aren’t the reason of all these wars.
@@Daniel-gk1dpMajority people support that historical revolution. If it has not happened your counrty could be another iraq
What's more problematic is that Iran considers citizenship to be hereditary. This means that someone born to Iranian parents, even outside Iran, lets say in Germany, may be regarded as an Iranian citizen by birth by the government and might be handed over an Iranian passport at the border when they ever enter the country. Many Persian migrants are concerned about this, particularly men, who may fear the risk of being drafted into the military. As a result, many just choose not to return even for vacation or family visits, which is unfortunate.
I'd seen my dad give up his Iranian citizenship in 2006.
They sent him a stinker saying "even if you come here on holiday we'll prosecute you, you don't have the right"
Good thing he never went back after 1980.
He wanted to go to his former home once, eat the fresh cherries you get in the ancestral hometown near Shiraz. Man died in 2011. He'd say Inshallah,
Azadi.
Being half Iranian in India means I am the human equivalent of biriyani.
most iranis now live in india
@@Iamalemonwhy there's an entire country called Iran my dear fellow. I'm sure there are more Iranians there.
@@rustomkanishka irans population is not that much... just 8 crores and most north Indians have Irani dna... none of my ancestors ever visited iran but my dna test said i ave 45% neolithic irani farmer dna i am not from north India i am from Kolkata
O you don’t have the right O you don’t have the right
My girlfriend's dad is from Iran. They're a Jewish family and fled the country in 1979, first to Israel, then USA.
We still love the culture, but not the government.
Love to India 🇮🇳🧡
Iranian government literally just went ''Never gonna give you up never gonna let you go.''
Always gonna let u down 🎶
Desert you 🎶
imagine being rickrolled just after you are born... by your country😂😂
You know the rules and so do I
Never gonna say goodbye
Say goodbye
Step 5 get in a ride in the helicopter with the president
That's WILD💀💀
I know Iranians who were denied entry back into Iran because they visited Israel. For my barber and his family it worked out well because they have no desire to return to that hellhole
Israel also denies entry to people who visited Iran (and many other countries like Syria, Lebanon and Iraq)
@@eylon1967 Israel does background checks on citizens from those countries but they can enter Israel if there are no red flags. Israel doesn't even stamp the passport now anymore so that those living in Muslim countries who don't have ties with Israel, could travel to Israel with no repercussions
Israeli here. If you visit enemy countries (Iraq, Iran, Pakistan etc) you automatically lose your Israeli citizenship
@@historyandmusic8646 no you don't. An Israeli-Russian woman was just abducted in Iraq because she entered with her Russian passport but was still technically an Israeli citizen. The government warned her not to go
@@ren2871 I have read that in some cases you can be considered a traitor and lose it
Imagine a dude selling all his stuff for in the end they just say, "Nah g, you'll stay here with us. Can't leave."
They’re not preventing you from leaving, they’re preventing you from giving up citizenship. Some countries will only let you become a citizen if you give up any prior citizenship. So this would make it impossible for you to become a citizen there.
no yeah thats what they do no matter what the only way to leave Iran is to get a workers visa to the UAE or australia and canada or win a visa lottery
@@bubbledoubletrouble the passport is only allowed to go into 40 countries (almost only poor ones) and they make it almost impossible to leave
@@80xdplays88 And from what I've heard, the Iranian elite has dual-passports.
@@souvikrc4499 many do
I could be wrong but you could, in theory, renounce it by asking a different country for citizenship. To give an example, Japan doesn't allow dual citizenship. If you want Japanese citizenship, you need to renounce any other citizenship you have. The Iranian government might still recognise you as an Iranian citizen but the Japanese government won't in theory
Of course, the described process is only what the Iranian government thinks how the process goes.
I think the process goes, you throw passport into the fire and be done with it.
The Japanese government probably thinks something like, give old passport to immigration office, get new one, or something like that.
Ancient Persia and India would facepalm looking at how far they've fell from glory.
Yea I agree. Like india was the world spice center but now they’re the world scam center
Why India? India is still glorious. Atleast it's developing from its own hardwork and not genocide of people of colour, like Europe.
Correct
I would say India, politics aside, is doing alright these days.
Iran, on the other hand...yeah...
@Sasen fastest growing economy STOMP STOMP
If a person never talks, gets rid of their passport and purchases another citizenship (i.e. golden passport), does it matter?
It probably can influence how difficult it becomes to "purchase" another citizenship...
what do you mean by "golden passport"?
@@tobyk.4911 as far as I know, it is when you basically can buy a citizenship of certain countries for a lot of money
No, you can't get the golden passport as an Iranian
@@kadirzhanl "... for a lot of money" - so this would be relevant for only a very small number of Iranians who seek a new citizenship. Most Iranian refugees surely don't have that money.
@@kadirzhanl yea I mean illegal means are always available does that mean it’s good idea not usually.
Thanks for reminding
I'm from northern Iran 🇮🇷 ( rasht ) and i have completed My military service or ارتش
now I'm at my final year into the maritime institute And I'm hoping after all this i can move somewhere good like The united states or Canada And hopefully get citizenship 😬 i just want to get out of this hell hole And start my life and maritime Job somewhere good that won't kill you because you disagree with them 😅😂 Also getting rid of My citizenship is very important for me.
Movafagh baashi
hey If you can't get into america or canada australia is a little easier my aunt is trying to move there right now! امیدوارم بتونی ترک کنی
Go to Australia.
@@seferino no that place is scary as hell. too many Big SPIDERS 😅
@@Sina.575 nothing is more scarier than a Islamic dictatorship.
It's also impossible to give up your citizen ship in Argentina
Messi almost played for Spain so I'm sure there is a way
honestly at least argentina has some reasons to stay there
iran just sounds like a hellholr
@@santinosalamanca4378 not only sounds, but İS
economy is total horse ******, inflation is OFF THE CHARTS, no social media (not even Whatsapp for god's sake)
Thank to reminding me 💀(I'm Iranian)
hey im an immigrant from Iran so I left before I could do military service so I still have iranian citizenship. Even if you go through this process you still can't leave the country. I won a lottery that allowed me to leave.
Just cross into Turkey or Azerbaijan or Pakistan 🤷♂️
@@ラーメンのボス bro it's not that simple, you know how much mountains there is?
At this point with the supervillains trying to end everyone that is not in their club. The wilds or even living in a bunker is looking a lot more attractive now more than ever. 🤣🤣🤣
im not sure if im just happy for you or it has this sad aftertaste you needed to win a lottery for that...
@@mugnuz yeah it’s great that I got the opportunity but the system is messed up
Damn videos like these kinds make me glad im Greek. Not the perfect country but it could have been a lot worse
Most countries are not good to live in for differing reasons and none is perfect 'EVER', but some are completly daunting and literally hopeless to live in.
Same here. Just a little bit to the right and I would have been screwed.
Glad I’m a saudi.
At least your country has cool history. And if i remember right, great food.
True
I may not agree with the rulers of the country but I will never renounce my heritage and culture - gifted to me by my parents. Proud to be Iranian
TLDR you need to be rich with connections, aka the guy that's deciding if your citizenship is renounced is your dad's best friend or your uncle
And that's what Iran is nowadays: an oligarchy in clerical garb.
Being Iranian is my identity and I am proud of it, and I am also proud that I was born and live in Iran
I'll try it later
Speedrun
So did they get you? Are you still alive?
@@-_-._.-. I'm under witness protection
@@amirmirzaei3940 💀
@@amirmirzaei3940 باو گفتم جی تی ای وی نزن زیاد💀💀
This used to be my home, but Iran
Bro 😭😭😭😭😭
The last bit is wrong. The renounciation form page redirects you to the IRGC Intelligence Division.
If they were a traitor to the Iranian « Republic » (Republic is a bit…. unfitting with recent events), why would they keep the factor that makes you an Iranian, and make you stay in Iran, as a traitor who supposedly doesn’t have any respect for it (in the authoritarian Iran’s eyes)?
cause they want to make you suffer maybe?
Because you stop being a traitor when you stop being a citizen. As you can't be traitor to a nation you aren't even part of and aren't loyal to. If they keep you as a citizen they can keep tabs on you and abuse you and have plausible deniability as "keeping track of a traitorous citizen".
From what I've seen, totalitarian governments always try to keep people trapped in the country and use fear to keep them subservient. If people could just renounce their citizenship and leave the country, then the populace wouldn't live in fear of the government, they'd just leave.
Take it from someone who has visited there a few times: They love control. They want to be able to control you somehow and the citizenship is the best way. They want to be able to detain you, torture you and maybe even kill you without other countries being able to interfere (which is why they don't recognise dual citizenship either). As you mentioned yourself, it's authoritarian, they do love their authority over you as a human being.
It was a comedic overexaturation
Same in Romania. The president or prime minister (dont remember which) has to sign your renounciation. Yeah good luck getting them to personally sign your stuff.
I don't think an EU country is comparable with an authoritarian state like Iran
how ridiculous, the people who made those laws have no shame
Wait is it still like that
That sounds like someone wrote those rules out on a parchment on the 1200s and then no one ever considered it again
“How the hell did you get out of Iran?”
“I ran”
“Damn”
As an Iranian that error 404 hit hard😂😂
Y'all should figure out 1st world tech
@@accelerator1666 we haven't researched that technology yet
Google is allowed in Iran?
@@UhrBushaltestelle for the most part,yeah.but some content like pornography and some websites like RUclips are filtered and can only be accessed by a VPN.
@@UhrBushaltestelle google it self is allowed
But most websites and some apps (like yt or play store) are banned
As an Iranian I am guessing that the URL for the form is probably only accessible from Iranian IP addresses 😂
@@oslavqThe 404 is the official document... 😂
نه بابا پول نداشتن سروراشو نگه دارن💀
@@TacommanderSarvaresh nigeh daran wow they're noticing
@@amaanhussainbarbhuyan9628 erm, wrong
My friend’s father was a commercial airline pilot in Iran in the late 70s or early 80s. One day he and a copilot flew to Japan and said fuck it we’re defecting. He eventually settled in the US but he couldn’t contact his family for years in fear of retaliation against them. Eventually everyone was able to make it to the US.
The problem: If you ever visit - family, friends, or to see your birthplace - you can fear for what may happen to you as you are just an ordinary citizen. It is different from the situation of a EU-citizen or a US citizen gettung into trouble there.
Any other country whose police doesn't officially cooperate with the Iranian police will be pissed if Iran arrested one of their citizens for the wrong reasons.
Heck, even if the other state recognizes the reason for the arrest as a legitimate crime, it still often causes a diplomatic crisis, for instance if they don't agree with the intended punishment (eg. death penalty or torture) or when the evidence presented does not convince them of their citizen's guilt.
Legally prosecuting foreign citizen can be a very tricky and delicate affair.
Very true, but we've seen that it does happen that the Iranian government detains foreign nationals and holds them in terrible conditions until a deal is made. Very recently a Belgian NGO-worker was imprisoned there for months until the Belgian government agreed to exchange him for an Iranian national convicted for terrorist activities...
@@jphenry3404 sure... I dont see, how that would be an argument against having Iranian citizenship being a bad thing when visiting Iranian jurisdiction.
There are honor kills in Iran. If you left, don't ever return.
No, a lot of people visit friends and family.
I never asked to be Iranian
No one asked to exist.
Don't be sad, there was a time where every merchant from Mombasa to Bali spoke Persian
Who even asked you?
You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave
i bet its easier to topple them down than get their permission
🤣
Well, there are no citizens of the Soviet Union despite what Putin may think.
Facts
Had my Australian passport stolen in Iran, the nightmare you have to go thru to get an EMERGENCY PASSPORT is disgrace. Authorities makes things very very difficult for absolutely no reason, an officer was very suspicious and said we have lost our passport intentionally 😕😕. The taxi driver kicked me out of his taxi because I was speaking foreign language to my brother in Australia. It doesn't get more racist.
when you go to turkiey and see how they speak with syrian you will see one of the most racism in the world , (not all of them but a lot of them)
Good, hope you learned not to visit islamic countries after that.
Taxi driver probably didn't want to be questioned etc, additionally.
Always have a photo of your passport on your phone and a backup with family and friends. Then just go to an embassy and they will sort it out.
didnt knew australia doesnt have some embassy there or its that poorly handled...
God bless Iran.
Cant you just, leave by plane to make "some vacations" and never come back? Lmao
While tdchnichally yes, you still wouldnt have gotten rid of your citizenship and still be a citezen of iran (correct me if im wrong)
Have fun when you run into the authorities where you flee to. Even if you live under a rock and don't go out much, you need money to eat and you will be taking a major risk when you get paid. There are some semi-anonymous ways to get paid through various apps, but it is difficult and requires the person paying you to agree to help a criminal.
So, sure, go ahead. You are an illegal immigrant. Now you have to eat. Now what?
You can leave the country but you’ll still be an irani citizen forever 😔
Taxxxx
@@cadzi.projects citizenship tax is only an American thing if I remember correctly
One way that works is by joining a country's that is hostile to the country your trying to leave..once you do ..run ..run as fast as you can
To the IRI though, that type of action would mean you would by subject to arrest.
@@souvikrc4499thats why i said run
Iranian citizenship is basically a Meridia's beacon
Lmao, true. 😂
Anyone who thinks of someone renouncing their citizenship as a “traitor” should not be allowed within 50 miles of any process that could give them any ability to decide such cases. What the actual fuck is wrong with humanity.
At this point there should just be some internationally recognized process to “renounce” your citizenship some other way for anything that requires it, regardless of what Iran says, and they can go cry about it if they don’t like it, because this is unjustifiable on any level.
Sadly, this idea would go nowhere in the UN Security Council.
Nah, that's just imperialism with extra steps. Every country is free to decide how to handle its own matters.
@@apakuamita17 “You can’t try to lock your people into your country” isn’t imperialist. What next, blocking attempts at genocide is imperialist?
Bruh tell that to American South back then in the 19th century. They wanted to secede from the Union but they are labelled traitors and got invaded instead.
@@kaikart123 I think you’re missing a few very important parts.
1. They didn’t leave, they tried to force the US to give up the territory. Major difference. You have a right to leave, but not to make the country itself leave.
2, and VASTLY more important but also more situational: they were TRYING TO PRESERVE SLAVERY. ANYTHING done for that sake should be crushed without hesitation. They weren’t just traitors to the US- in trying to preserve slavery they were traitors to humanity itself.
Good things are in fact different from bad things
Why do you need permission to renounce a citizenship? Why should a country have any say if you wish to keep your citizenship or not?
North Korea: finally a worthy opponent
I wonder how that works for Iranians who want to become Austrian citizens?
(Could be thinking of the wrong country, but…) I believe they require you to give up your original citizenship in order to become a citizen.
Especially when you consider that most Iranian citizens who moved to Austria or Germany, etc. are refugees who have fled from the Iranian state ... They surely can't expect any help from the same administration that they had to escape from.
How do they check do disclose do they go to the embassy of the nation you drop?
india does
Some countries have back-up rules that exclude citizenships which are intentionally designed to be near impossible to revoke e.g. Iranian citizenship.
Not sure if Austria does though.
That’s correct: Austria 🇦🇹. And they require an authenticated letter of acceptance of citizenship renunciation.
But let’s say you are successful, if Austria finds out that you were in trouble with the law at any moment in your 10 year residency, even many driving fines or a suspended license, they can deny your citizenship application and you’ll be a person without a country and you’ll have to apply as a person without a country until your brilliant lawyer somehow helps you become a citizen, after 5 years of court hearings appeals and thousands of Euros In Lawyer fees. 😂 Austria is no piece of cake to become a citizen. Even if you want to buy Austrian citizenship, after meeting all criteria (clean record, have a lot of assets, etc) they then say ‘Okay that’ll be € 10Million!’ 🤣 it’s basically an “F-you, it’s not for sale.”
I actually know someone who just left Iran. They still try to bill him and try to get him back. But till they physically come to canada and remove him. He won't go back
my family are immigrants from iran to canada, can you still live in another country while being a citizen of iran?
When people choose hell mode in their playthrough.
“You’re not going anywhere…”-Iran
Yea It's generally quite tricky and time consuming to get out of here
It's just like trying to legally buy a gun in Brazil. It's an extremely long and expensive process that can take years and the last step is presenting the authorities with a good reason as to why you need a gun. Then they decide if they like your reason enough to say yes or no (or they just ignore you).
Do a video on why Morocco won't ever let you go, because as a Moroccan I wonder why.
And no, I don't plan on getting rid of my citizenship, that's just idiotic.
aye another moroccan
@@tacomuncher I never expected us to be this common on the internet
"And I ran. I ran so far away...
I just ran. Iran all night and day...
couldn't get away"
Bob Bob Bob, Bob Bob Iran... 😛
Thank you for getting that song stuck in my head
I ran, you ran, we all ran
Haha nice show clowns
"Alright then, ill do it myself"
**equips backpack**
I so wish I had the ability to send them 25 million applications.
Unfortinately, that would likely attract unwelcome attention from the Iranian government.
Hey man i am an Iranian and the smallest help in iran would change peoples lives. For example one American dollar right now worths around half a million Iranian rial. So if you want to help it would mean the world to us. Thank you very much
@@ArashIsHerehow can one help
@@gravy3858 I would tell you to attend protests or give donations but at this point nothing seems to be working. We need the help of Europe or America, someone who would start a war.
Without the incursion of an outside secular influence, we are helpless.
Step 1: be lucky (unlike us) to not be born here
I feel you bro, I have Russian citizenship which is equally bad nowadays. However, if it doesn't stop you from traveling and getting residence permits in other countries, it's not that bad
I heard Iran is a living hell
What’s even going on there?
Step 2. If unlucky and born in Iran, be at least lucky enough to acquire a plane(even if by theft)...
I studied with some Iranians in the US during my Master's degree. I am wondering how they are doing now
or alternative step one manage to win the Visa lottery
i am from iran and i can say its true
it's really hard to Live here😢
It’s like asking someone if you can punch them before you do it if you want to punch someone (metaphorically) just do it
co-worker of mine had his revoked by the Iran themselves when he was just a baby. His father fled to eastern germany in the 80s - socialist activist.
The Iranian leftists basically got the short-end of the stick after 1979.
My grandpa is from Iran 🇮🇷 and I’m Iranian
All citizenships are hard to renounce. Unless you have more than one.
The chess kid had to runaway from Iran just to play a tournament because Iran didn't want him competing against Israelis in the tournament. You think that if Iran hates Israel so much they would want to beat them at chess which is a much better option than real war .
But apparently, to the Iranian govermnent, competing against Israel is tantamount to recognition, and thus is hersey.
I mean similar story if you’re not from a race or country of Israel’s liking. If you’re Muslim or come from a list of countries good luck.
Same thing here in the U.S.
you still have to pay I.R.S taxes even if you renounce citizenship and live abroad.
Turkey also makes it rather difficult. At least if you haven't done the military service. Thing is that they automatically give citizenship if either of your parents have it.
Friend of mine is not able to go to Turkey because he would be arrested for dodging the military service. His father dealt with the same problem (also had dual citizenship) so gave up his citizenship after paying off his military service (rather expensive). But his mother didn't. And my friend refuses to pay up just so he can visit distant cousins in Turkey. According to him: "I'll just never again go to that shithole".
Always an option, as long as you don't enter a country that has an extradition treaty and cooperates with the Turkish police.
Paying off his military service would be no big deal with today's eur/tl exchange rate. Turkey is not exactly a shthole, only shtty things are the government and the economy. He should just pay it up and get rid of the citizenship and go on a vacation to Marmaris LMAO
being an iranian is a curse this hell hole just takes from you (your life,happiness,money,freedom,dignity, dreams every thing) if any body in western think there life is hard remember 80 million iranian exist(yes exist not living ) in iran
Sad.. i work as an engineer (semiconductor) and i have coworkers from Iraq (most common), Afghanistan, Syria, and Saudi Arabia. They are all PROUD (SUPER PROUD) Americans now but i work/know no one from Iran.
It is possible to leave but there are barriers. I wish the best for all the good men out their and their families.
"Ooooh (Ooooh), I won't let you gooooo!
Ooooh! (Ooooh), I won't let you gooooo!"
-Iran
Mock Renounciations
hahahha the way mashtag jumped down like a little frog trying to mininize the fall 💀💀
Dance Dance Revolution, Revolution? *404 error page* Overthrow the government, uh... I THINK SO
In America you have to file with the State department and it is also a lengthy process , it is difficult in many countries
That military service is not like a military service from other countries, it's more like a unsafe prison 😂.
You can not eat good quality food
You may get killed in borders
You may get killed by road accidents
And...
And most importantly your main task is just cleaning toilets
Basically that 2 years will pass like 5 years.
Many saying that, their character after and befor military service has a huge difference.
Wouldn’t it be preferable to allow a traitor to renounce their citizenship rather than keeping that traitor among your ranks?
Apparently it can be a way to punish the "traitor" even after he left the country... for example by preventing him from obtaining the citizenship of the country that he's living in now.
By allowing a "traitor" to renounce their citizenship of your state, you give up your legal authority over them and thus your ability to punish them for their "betrayal", should they ever set foot into your territory (or an allied country that agreed to arrest and extradite people for you) again.
Hence they don't do that.
@@LRM12o8 This, it also prevents the buildup of a diaspora that would be hostile to the IRI.
@@souvikrc4499But it failed, since there are many Iranian communities in the west.