Does On-Court Coaching Make Pro Tennis Better or Worse? | MMTR
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Guess the racquet next to me ⬇️⬇️
prince phantom!
During play I give my students simple coaching tips. Example really cold day had told student to hit drop shots to the back hand to opponent. Nothing too much. Later keep notes to fix later and review film.
Prince Graphite Michael Chang Longbody! 👏🏽❤
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Prince Graphite. That was the racquet 35 years ago. Every good player I knew played with that racquet.
Always found On-court coaching to be unfair to the lower ranked players as they can't afford the superstar coaches like the top players do. The odds are already against them and this makes it worse. Figuring out a way yourself over 5 sets is such a fascinating aspect of the game which this is taking away from.
Absolutely, Agree!!!💯👍🏻
Would love to go back to no coaching at all, and maintain the gladiatorial aspect of tennis.
I agree. Since coaching is allowed, the coach should be allowed to sit on the bench. Or ban coaching again.
I agree with this
As a teaching pro, I can’t stand on court coaching, esp at the pro level. The better players can figure it out, or need to learn how to figure it out. That’s how they grow. Also, as a 50+ year old fan of watching TV broadcasts, I can’t really stomach it anymore, and a big part of it is the pro players constantly bitching to their “boxes” literally after every point. Get the coaches out of ear and eyesight of the players! Ruined the beauty of the game watching pro athletes crying after each missed point.
Agree completely. I watch Tennis very little now. I also don't care for the constant drama coming from the broadcasting booth today. The commentators back in the days of Stan Smith and Bjorn Borg were better on many levels.
Exactly and it stops becoming an individual sport!
Even Michael Jordan had a coach who has an outside perspective of the game and can see what’s going on and make adjustments
Players have the right to express their emotions. Playing tennis at that level is a lot of pressure, I think is better for any human being to "cry" after a frustrating point than to eat it. But you have a valid point of view, and because of that just stop watching it and crying online
The junior level is already a disgrace with parents coaching on side lines and interfering. So if pros are allowed to do it sets a precedent
Thanks for your insight your spot on bud you kick ass 🔥🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍
No coaching during matches. Tennis is an individual sport. When I go play a match as a recreational player I won’t have a coach to help me. I have to manage myself and my emotions. That is one of the most unique aspects of the sport and it is what makes tennis more than a sport. When you add coaching during an ATP/WTA match, it becomes a different, team, sport. It’s already so hard to relate to ATP/WTA players even when they are playing the same sport.
Coaching is going to happen whether it's allowed or not. The question isn't whether or not we want coaching or not, the question is whether we want it to happen courtside or if we want coaching in the form of, "If you look up to the stands and see me with my hat turned to the right side, I want you to hit higher over the net with more topspin, but if I take the sunglasses off, that means I want you to flatten out your shots more."
What is your opinion on medical time-out? The rule is that a player can not receive treatment for loss of conditioning/fitness or fatigue. Loss of conditioning basically means tiredness, cramping, and sore muscles. However, in tournaments, we see how this rule is interpreted in ways that lead to discrepancies in what is allowed. Becker once said: if I have tried for hours to tire up my opponent, I would like to see him taking a medical time-out
I understand the argument against medical timeouts for cramps. However, once they set it the player is usually toast anyway.
I very much like the idea you are proposing. Extend the set break a bit and allow time for tactical changes without all the yelling/signaling across the court. It is embarrassing watching some of the interactions from the top professionals.
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I like the idea of a longer break between sets. More time for the fans hit the bathroom and grab another beer!! Most events should be down for this.. Nobody complains about coaching during a rain break or other long stoppages like your example.
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Let me ask you a question Coach, Do you think that they should live Coaching in Chess Tournaments?
Because in my opinion it doesn’t become an individual sport anymore if there’s on court coaching in live tennis matches. It would be like live coaching in a Chess tournament, in my opinion. Wow is that old Prince Graphite next to you Coach Nick?
It is 🙌
Your analogy is deeply flawed. In chess, you could swap out the player and the coach and it would make little difference because the biomechanics of chess are not taxing. In tennis you can't switch the player and the coach and expect to win.
In the French against Sinner, Alcaraz was 6-2 & 2-0 down he was frustrated and looked out of it! The fact the coaches can now speak or signal to the players during a match I think saved Alacaraz in that match! His head had gone he was being blasted of the court until he was getting constant chat from his coach!
No way to know if that way the reason. Alcaraz is able to turn a match around on his own.
@@IntuitiveTennis And yet when his coach couldn't be there for a few months (can't remember the health problem) He didn't fair well? after he won Wimbledon I believe?
I'm old school (or maybe I'm just old), but i find it extremely annoying when players look to their box for "answers". Yes, it's legal. And I think it should stay legal, because otherwise, some coaches and players will just figure out how to cheat (subtle hand signals, clapping a certain number of times or with a certain cadence, etc). But I would think that by the time someone has got to the ATP / WTA level, they have practiced for tens of thousands of hours, hit millions of balls, and played countless matches under high pressure....and therefore should be keenly aware of what is working and what is not working during the match at hand, so they shouldn't need any outside advice in real-time during the match. Tennis is an individual sport. The player should be looking inward, not outward, for answers during the match. Just my two cents.
I also find it extremely annoying when players look to their box "with conviction" after hitting a winner or winning a crucial point, or when the player looks at their box and points a finger up to their head to indicate that they are playing "smart tennis". Paaaaaaaaalease!
I couldn’t agree you more, and i’m glad someone is bringing this up.
I always saw the mental challenges of tennis as what makes it special from other sports. A champion to me then, was literally someone who could figure out how to win when not playing their best…so when the WTA first introduced non slam coaching, I felt like they single handedly change the sport. Its kind of disrespectful in my opinion as well, as it kinda shows that they don’t think the players can depend on their own mental game or tennis IQ…yet they love to boast about the “depth” in the women’s game which to me is highly arguable.
It seems like they don’t know what to do…not too long ago they made a big deal about Serena’s coach gesturing her to move further off the baseline, and now we have this 🤦🏽♂️
I agree it was very disrespectful to allow coaching on WTA tour and not on ATP. It’s like saying the women are incapable of figuring tennis out on their own and need help. The men on the other hand are fine and don’t need help.
They couldn't stop Apo from coaching so they just made it legal.
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Just dont let him in the stadium / court
Not a fan personally I actually think it can hinder players sometimes , certainly didn’t do coco any favors the other day
I'm definitely of the opinion that no coaching is allowed. In fact, get rid of the player's box and not allow their entourage into the stadium. That would permanently fix the whole coaching problem during a match.
I’d be ok with Davis cup style coaching but with microphones so we can all hear what is being said
I don't have an opinion about it, but I'm glad the charade is out in the open and the fake secrecy is done.
Good point. Since it was always happening anyway, allowing it is logical conclusion.
Good explanation, thank you. 👍
Thank you Angela
I don't know how long you have been watching Coco but she usually figures out things on her own on court.Yes in the Navarro match she was talking to her box because in the presser she said their game plan wasn't working.Coco Gauff doesn't rely on oncourt coaching every match.She was down a set during the USO final and didn't even get coaching but won the match
I’ve been aware of Coco since she was 8 years old. She’s from Delray. Of course she figures it out, she’s a champ. I used the Navarro match as an example of how inefficient the current coaching system is. No diss, I’m a Coco supporter and fan.
Let me ask you a question Coach, Do you think that they should live Coaching in Chess Tournaments?
Because in my opinion it doesn’t become an individual sport anymore if there’s on court coaching in live tennis matches. It would be like live coaching in a Chess tournament, in my opinion.
I don’t know about chess, but they allow coaching now and coaching was happening when it was not allowed. Need a better coaching system. Still an individual sport tho even with the coaching.
@@IntuitiveTennis I am not a fan of on court coaching, because of ego as you mentioned in your video Coach Nick!
This is a terrible analogy chess and tennis isnt comparable at all.
Chess isnt even a physical sport. Why would a coach give advice to a chess player as far as tactics and advice as chess is 100 percent strategy where as tennis is strategy and execution.
It doesn’t take much physical execution to move a chess piece.
@@abhireddy2552 you don’t use strategies when you play? Our school system needs to be abolished!
@@Shaunsweeney-Kubach71 yes but chess is 100% strategy whereas tennis is not. Tennis is physical execution. There is nothing difficult about moving a chess piece
I have a question. How come almost every baseball pitcher who only pitch every 5 days ends up getting Tommy John surgery while tennis players serve more times in a match and serve everyday without hurting their elbow ligaments?
I’m not a baseball expert, but in tennis the arm is supported by the body (baseball too), however there are biomechanical differences between striking and throwing. The object that is striking the ball helps with the effortlessness of the swing and is less invasive on the body compared to throwing.
@@IntuitiveTennis yes, clearly. Any solution to the injuries in baseball without changing biomechanics would be worth billions.
@@michaels.2331 Solution is to let the pitchers use those throwing gadgets you see at the dog parks. In all seriousness, you bring up a good question. I have a buddy who is a PT and I'm gonna ask him and I'll post back his thoughts in the near future.
Federer for me was the best, he didn't look at his box constantly and also he was greeting his opponent at the end of the match before anybody else which was much more respectful than players greetings their team before the opponent nowadays
I personally don’t like the on court coaching. I think it’s more watchable if it’s just the player figuring it out on their own. I don’t like people peering at their camp after every bad point, it’s childish.
There should
Be plenty of coaching before the match.
Not everyone WANTS a coach
Not all players of all levels can afford their own individual coach.
I don’t really see any upside to the coaching other than nepotism and catering to the mentally weak
Coaching being an issue is awfull. Man up player, your getting smoked off the court.. The bratty bickering with ones coaching box is just poor sportsmanship. They are cooked...
I agree with Your suggestion of more of a 1on1 talk like davis cup , would help some players more..
Emma's game is a joy to watch . Hopefully her legs continue to feel fresh and gets a shot in the finals
just ban coaching
To me it’s a level playing field. Coaching is only as useful as a players execution, this idea that Alcaraz is nothing without Alcaraz is ridiculous and most of problem solving happens during the point, not before. The advice is usually generic like aim for his backhand or hit more drop shots.
Then why does he depend on it?
@@makeitlucid there is a difference between leveraging it and depending on it. He leverages to help him win like any other player, y’all just single him out for it because he’s winning and you don’t like it. Sinner, zverev, and djokovic do it too but y’all don’t say a word about it.
At the end of the day he has to execute, ferrero can’t play the game for him.
Ban coaching. Have the coach sit far away or off the court.
COACHing should not be allowed. Figure the game out yourself.
I'm good with banning coaching again. I think it's ruined Stephano T, although that may be the father coach issue and not just the coaching. Their relationship seems so toxic, I don't know why he is wasting his prime years sticking with his dad.
Get rid of coaching. The only purpose to coaching is to entertain the audience so having this off court or off camera, it doesn't help the tennis sport in general. I enjoyed the Shamir rematch, but honestly the coaching you gave was more helpful to the viewer as a commentary on what we should do or focus. Shamir didn't really benefit from it during the match.
Nonsense. That was a practice match and this is where we work on things. He would have rushed through the whole thing without me slowing him down. He won points on his serve when he took time to make a plan.
Tennis development takes time. He will take the lessons from that match and apply the corrections down the road until we see big improvements.
Coco was absolutely pathetic begging for coaching. Alcaraz isn’t much better.
Tennis especially singles is called singles for a reason. You are by yourself. And if this was brought back many players would not be ranked where they are now. It’s a false crutch for weak minded players.
Worse.
This generation is just a bunch of whiners. It´s time to grow up and wear some pants.
Alcarez wouldn't win without his coach telling him how to play in his matches.
The ball moves too fast during a point to rely on guidance from your coach, they can't tell you what to do in every split second, and it's those split seconds where important decisions are made. At the end of the day you still have to execute and problem-solve in real time.
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Alcaraz will be lost without on court coaching 😏
Interesting concept. Maybe he should try it. This idea that he is incapable of playing tennis without his coaches makes no sense. Think about it.
That’s crap because
1. Every single player on tour receives coaching even before it was legal. Sinner does, zverev does, and djokovic does. Alcaraz just gets singled out for it.
2. Alcaraz still has to execute at the end of the day and he has all the shots and variety and athleticism to win matches.
3. Majority of the problem solving happens during the point as they have to often think on their feet, so coaching doesn’t help there.
Alcaraz seems to be the only player singled out for leveraging coaching, people just won’t admit he’s better.
Considering his stamina, strength, variety, shot selection, and mental toughness, it’s absolutely ignorant to say he only wins because of coaching especially when he’s not the only one who receives it.
Sinner receives coaching and so does djokovic, so why isn’t sinner winning as much.
FYI he won Miami 2022 and queens 2023 and ferrero wasn’t even at either tournament but whatever helps you sleep at night.
yes, Carlitos relies on coaching more than most of the top male players (at least it's more obvious in his case). But he would still win many titles and grand slams if they banned coaching again. Might he win fewer? Maybe. But he'd still be great, still be a top 5 player. His skillset is quite complete, other than being an ace machine like Hubie.
@@cjd2555 people who say this just don’t like Alcaraz and it’s a level playing field.
Medvedev took a locker room break and received coaching just to lose the 4th set, so at the end of the day it’s execution.
Folks that say he only wins cause of coaching are overlooking the following
1. Alcarazs insane athleticism and physical conditioning
2. Alcarazs forehand
3. Alcarazs shot selection and variety
4. Alcarazs ability to anticipate
5. Mental toughness
Majority of players don’t have remotely the skills and athleticism Alcaraz has