I don’t think the 7600x is worth it right now. The prices for the motherboards and ram is too high right now. I have a 12600k with ddr5 ram, and the performance is almost exactly the same as with the 7600x in this video with what I have on my 12600k. I saved $150 (cad) compared to the 7600x, with the ram and motherboard. Wait a few months before getting the 7600x and buy it from the used market in order to get a better worth from it if you’re gonna go 7000 series
@@texast1tan377 I got ddr5 for future proofing. Same way on my old rig I got ddr4 when it was brand new, and after a few years it scaled well. It was good future proofing practise. For now ddr4 is good, but for future proofing I’d go with ddr5. I have a z690-p wifi with Kingston 1x16 ddr5 5200mhz. I’m gonna upgrade to 32gb soon, but I’m on 16gb rn.
@@HayyanPro167 ive got ddr4 with 12600k and motherboard supports the ram to go upto 5333mhz so ig its alr if i wanted performance of some base ddr5 but still its enough for what im doing "playing valorant at 400 fps" and water cooler is so good 40 degrees playing val
I will be getting the 7600X. It’s future proof and I use this app called Amazon shopper panel which u upload 10 receipts every month and at the start of a new month u get a $10 to your Amazon account. If you do this for 5 months that’s $50. So I will be using those rewards to get some money off the 7600X this it’s perfect. And theirs other reward apps such as survery junkie and fetch rewards.
Thanks for the 4k charts. Many other reviewers leave them out, but seeing that it changes the order of the results in some cases, I'm very glad you included them.
I know this is a year late, but for posterity 4k results are entirely about the graphics card, as you are graphics bound. 1080p Results show you your processor performance, as the graphics card can run at much higher frame rates. He had it backwards in this video.
The 13600k will be the ABSOLUTE gaming king holy shit...... still, so many good cpus out now so we as consumers should enjoy, imagine a 12400 performing as good as my i9 10900k in gaming, that is just MAD .......
13th Gen is coming soon, since details and pricing are released, so i would suggest everyone to hold your horses and let the dust settle and then come back to this channel once that series is released and then weigh your options. Good Luck to everyone who is going to build a PC.
I'm leaning more toward the 7600x simply because AMD is proven they will support the mb platform for a lot longer than Intel. Buy into AM5 now and can probably get 7000, 9000, 11000, maybe even 13000 series CPU support. The 12th and 13th gen intel having board compatibility is the first time intel has every supported their mb platform for multiple generation. Intel usually always makes you buy a new mb if you upgrade your cpu.
They are making 8000 series cpus for 2024, but Intel is still on lga 1700. Intel might make one more gen (15th gen) and move on to a new socket. Which tbh, If the 13900k and the current 7000 series can use 4090's and everything before, I don't see the reason to upgrade. If you pickup a ryzen 5600x and say a 4060ti, 3060, 6700xt, 7800xt and are happy, there isn't much more to do. I'm going to purchase a i5 12600kf ($195) and a 7800xt ($559.99 red devil) to dabble in some 1440p and 2k gaming. And since intel hasn't left lga just yet if i really need to i can just get a i7 12700k or something along those lines. But since 8000 series is coming out, we should see price cuts across the board like with what they did to 6000 series radeon. Which would be amazing, same with intel on 14th gen. Something i think would be cool though is if Ryzen adapted E Cores like what intel has. The i5 12600kf is a nice option because of those 4 E cores mocking 10 cores for workstation application. Seeing a Ryzen 3 with just even 2 or 4 E cores would be nuts.
I have my i5 12600k overclocked to 5.1ghz all core and it beats the 7600x in nearly everything, even on single core, on every benchmarking programme i can find. loses in some games though
@@nTnz_ I was about to order the r7 5700x to replace my 3600!just ordering a new cabinet and psu to start up!the new mobos for 7600x costs about the same as the cpu right?little over 300 dollars!
@@johnbernhardtsen3008 yep, though zen 3 works as the low-end of zen 4. Plus, the new mobo-gen is gonna last for at least 4 years before any new chipset is released.
if you're already on AM4, go with 5800X3D! if you don't have a PC, go for i5-12600k, cheaper platform and DDR4 for better work. 7600x is very expensive and on a very expensive platform.
@@jokerquy2998 pcie 4 gpu with pcie 3 would be a problem if the gpu has only 8 lanes like the 6600, i dont know the difference for 16 lanes gpus but there prolly are tests
@@sitecontact9653 12600k is still a very capable cpu, the truth is even a 10400f is good, my 3600 still works good, it depends what you do, if you really need the performance, then go for it, but if you only play games, then you wont really need those cpus (for me the best gaming is at least high settings with 60+ fps always, if i achieve that i can also get 144 fps in competitive games because i have 144hz)
Bro In 4k, games are more GPU Bound not CPU Bound,if you really want to know the CPU performance difference put the games resolution to 1080p and put the games preset to low, then we get the real CPU performance difference
You forgot to mention that no gpu currently released and not even the rtx 4000 series supports pci-e 5.0 so there is no difference whether you have it or not
So the conclusion is, in order for AMD ryzen 7000 series to be on par with intel 12th gen CPUs or in some instances, to beat intel 12th gen counterparts, you need EXPENSIVE MOTHERBOARDS ( Motherboards that cost over the price of the CPU ) , and you need DDR5 RAMs ( Which will cost x3 to x4 times the price of DDR4 RAMs ) . I very much apreciate AMD architectural achievement here, higher base clock speeds, higher all core boost speed. But a customer who buys an expensive AM5 motherboard today, can they trust AMD and have faith that they will not have to change their motherboard again after like 3 years. On intel side, 13th gen CPUs support previous generation CPU socket ( LGA 1700 ) and it will support both DDR4 and DDR5 RAMs. But the downsize is, in order for intel to achieve those claimed perfomance numbers, like Nvidia did, they have to use more power. So customers have to decide whether to buy an expensive motherboard and DDR5 RAMs which will cost them one time and be efficient in running AMD 7000 series or customers who has motherboards which has LGA 1700 socket do not have to spend money on expensive motherboards and RAMs but have to bear the electricity bill every month. LOL
which is better ...... Ryzen 5 5600x and RTX 3060 ti or intel 12600k and RTX 3060 gaming pc build? (Same price in both case in India) For games like csgo, valorant, gta 5, cyberpunk etc .... someone with knowledge please clarify, since I am planning to get this build soon.
But if you have other things you would like to do like video editing or not business oriented things having more cores will be better! Having a flexible computer that can do both even if you don’t think you will is a good option
I went from a i7 8700k to an i7 11700k before I moved to an i5 12600k and it was a nice little performance boost, not much but just overall felt smoother and the 1% lows was better as you get a nice little ipc improvement but to be fair it isn’t worth it for the long run and I have an rtx 3070ti. Plus you can have a gen4 nvme ssd but if you are going to do that you might as well upgrade to alder lake as you are going to need a new motherboard anyway or wait for raptor lake
I think that the only difference between this two cpu are one comes with inner grated graphics and other doesn’t. Other than that, I think everything is similar
In performance, they are the same. The "F" at the end means that it doesn't come with integrated graphics which means you need a dedicated graphics card. This leads to it being cheaper and it's a great deal if you were going to buy a GPU anyway.
@@billyeats267 if you want a cpu in that price range, I'd recommend an i5-12400F: it is a bit cheaper, has around the same performance. You could also pair the 12400f with a 3060 (Geeka has a video about cpu and gpu combos)
Is 5600X still worth it over i5-2600k for gaming and light editing(After effects)? The 5600X is 229€ and i5-12600k is 379€ in my country but I also have to get the motherboard for both of them. Is it worth to get extra cores or go with 5600 and get slightly better GPU?
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I don’t think the 7600x is worth it right now. The prices for the motherboards and ram is too high right now. I have a 12600k with ddr5 ram, and the performance is almost exactly the same as with the 7600x in this video with what I have on my 12600k. I saved $150 (cad) compared to the 7600x, with the ram and motherboard. Wait a few months before getting the 7600x and buy it from the used market in order to get a better worth from it if you’re gonna go 7000 series
Does the ddr5 really make a big difference on the 12600k? And also what speed and motherboard do u recommend? Thanks in advance btw
@@texast1tan377 I got ddr5 for future proofing. Same way on my old rig I got ddr4 when it was brand new, and after a few years it scaled well. It was good future proofing practise. For now ddr4 is good, but for future proofing I’d go with ddr5. I have a z690-p wifi with Kingston 1x16 ddr5 5200mhz. I’m gonna upgrade to 32gb soon, but I’m on 16gb rn.
@@HayyanPro167 gotcha!! Thanks for the help
@@HayyanPro167 ive got ddr4 with 12600k and motherboard supports the ram to go upto 5333mhz so ig its alr if i wanted performance of some base ddr5 but still its enough for what im doing "playing valorant at 400 fps" and water cooler is so good 40 degrees playing val
I will be getting the 7600X. It’s future proof and I use this app called Amazon shopper panel which u upload 10 receipts every month and at the start of a new month u get a $10 to your Amazon account. If you do this for 5 months that’s $50. So I will be using those rewards to get some money off the 7600X this it’s perfect. And theirs other reward apps such as survery junkie and fetch rewards.
Thanks for the 4k charts. Many other reviewers leave them out, but seeing that it changes the order of the results in some cases, I'm very glad you included them.
I know this is a year late, but for posterity 4k results are entirely about the graphics card, as you are graphics bound. 1080p Results show you your processor performance, as the graphics card can run at much higher frame rates. He had it backwards in this video.
The 13600k will be the ABSOLUTE gaming king holy shit...... still, so many good cpus out now so we as consumers should enjoy, imagine a 12400 performing as good as my i9 10900k in gaming, that is just MAD .......
everyone wants to know about 1440p not 4k not everyone can do 4k
not everyone can do 2k also, so...
I like how this guy isn't a team red or team blue guy. Just spits the fax and no bs. Unlike other tech channels, I prefer getting updates from here
13th Gen is coming soon, since details and pricing are released, so i would suggest everyone to hold your horses and let the dust settle and then come back to this channel once that series is released and then weigh your options. Good Luck to everyone who is going to build a PC.
I'm leaning more toward the 7600x simply because AMD is proven they will support the mb platform for a lot longer than Intel. Buy into AM5 now and can probably get 7000, 9000, 11000, maybe even 13000 series CPU support. The 12th and 13th gen intel having board compatibility is the first time intel has every supported their mb platform for multiple generation. Intel usually always makes you buy a new mb if you upgrade your cpu.
They are making 8000 series cpus for 2024, but Intel is still on lga 1700. Intel might make one more gen (15th gen) and move on to a new socket. Which tbh, If the 13900k and the current 7000 series can use 4090's and everything before, I don't see the reason to upgrade. If you pickup a ryzen 5600x and say a 4060ti, 3060, 6700xt, 7800xt and are happy, there isn't much more to do. I'm going to purchase a i5 12600kf ($195) and a 7800xt ($559.99 red devil) to dabble in some 1440p and 2k gaming. And since intel hasn't left lga just yet if i really need to i can just get a i7 12700k or something along those lines.
But since 8000 series is coming out, we should see price cuts across the board like with what they did to 6000 series radeon. Which would be amazing, same with intel on 14th gen. Something i think would be cool though is if Ryzen adapted E Cores like what intel has. The i5 12600kf is a nice option because of those 4 E cores mocking 10 cores for workstation application. Seeing a Ryzen 3 with just even 2 or 4 E cores would be nuts.
I have my i5 12600k overclocked to 5.1ghz all core and it beats the 7600x in nearly everything, even on single core, on every benchmarking programme i can find. loses in some games though
Yeah but think. Urs is overclocked this one isn’t
@@lime2877 I didn’t say he’s was overclocked that’s why I’m saying that I have mine at 5.1ghz.
@@JamieTDC My overclocked 5900x is faster than a stock 12700k as well
@@nTnz_ I was about to order the r7 5700x to replace my 3600!just ordering a new cabinet and psu to start up!the new mobos for 7600x costs about the same as the cpu right?little over 300 dollars!
@@johnbernhardtsen3008 yep, though zen 3 works as the low-end of zen 4. Plus, the new mobo-gen is gonna last for at least 4 years before any new chipset is released.
The only guy who would show Apex benchmark, exactly what I want
obviously the 7600x is going to out perform the 5600x or why would amd bother releasing it
Still interesting to see by how much.
This is hilarious 8months later when Nvidia released the 4060ti 8gb that sometimes loses to the 3060ti Lmao
if you're already on AM4, go with 5800X3D!
if you don't have a PC, go for i5-12600k, cheaper platform and DDR4 for better work.
7600x is very expensive and on a very expensive platform.
Am4 but im using b450 tomahawk and pair it with rtx 3080. Is it worth jumping to pcie 4.0 mainboard
I dont think so, not for gaming
@@jokerquy2998 pcie 4 gpu with pcie 3 would be a problem if the gpu has only 8 lanes like the 6600, i dont know the difference for 16 lanes gpus but there prolly are tests
I like my 12600k. I need to liquid cool it though. I’m running on stock cooler.
@@sitecontact9653 12600k is still a very capable cpu, the truth is even a 10400f is good, my 3600 still works good, it depends what you do, if you really need the performance, then go for it, but if you only play games, then you wont really need those cpus (for me the best gaming is at least high settings with 60+ fps always, if i achieve that i can also get 144 fps in competitive games because i have 144hz)
Am happy with my 5600x since the rest of the money I put into my psu so that I can run my 3090 cuz that’s where I put most of it into.
I don't believe your 4K benchmark
Bro In 4k, games are more GPU Bound not CPU Bound,if you really want to know the CPU performance difference put the games resolution to 1080p and put the games preset to low, then we get the real CPU performance difference
I'm sold. Getting that 7900. Great video.
So my rig is ryzen 5 3600 pair with a 3080 RTX. I think the i5 12600k would be more price efficient as I can reused my 32gb ram
Wait for the 13600k
You forgot to mention that no gpu currently released and not even the rtx 4000 series supports pci-e 5.0 so there is no difference whether you have it or not
Wow the amd ceo is a liar! She said the 7600x should a bit better than the 12900k? Look at the 3dmark score!
She said in terms of average fps in games. Obviously 12900k is gonna be higher in 3d mark
So the conclusion is, in order for AMD ryzen 7000 series to be on par with intel 12th gen CPUs or in some instances, to beat intel 12th gen counterparts, you need EXPENSIVE MOTHERBOARDS ( Motherboards that cost over the price of the CPU ) , and you need DDR5 RAMs ( Which will cost x3 to x4 times the price of DDR4 RAMs ) . I very much apreciate AMD architectural achievement here, higher base clock speeds, higher all core boost speed. But a customer who buys an expensive AM5 motherboard today, can they trust AMD and have faith that they will not have to change their motherboard again after like 3 years. On intel side, 13th gen CPUs support previous generation CPU socket ( LGA 1700 ) and it will support both DDR4 and DDR5 RAMs. But the downsize is, in order for intel to achieve those claimed perfomance numbers, like Nvidia did, they have to use more power. So customers have to decide whether to buy an expensive motherboard and DDR5 RAMs which will cost them one time and be efficient in running AMD 7000 series or customers who has motherboards which has LGA 1700 socket do not have to spend money on expensive motherboards and RAMs but have to bear the electricity bill every month. LOL
Quality as always
which is better ...... Ryzen 5 5600x and RTX 3060 ti or intel 12600k and RTX 3060 gaming pc build? (Same price in both case in India) For games like csgo, valorant, gta 5, cyberpunk etc .... someone with knowledge please clarify, since I am planning to get this build soon.
Ryzen 5 5600x with 3060 ti will give better performance for gaming.
But if you have other things you would like to do like video editing or not business oriented things having more cores will be better! Having a flexible computer that can do both even if you don’t think you will is a good option
When do the Ryzen 7000 CPUs come out?
Tomorrow. September 27th.
tomorrow
Ok thank you
The AM5 motherboard cost more than my i5 12600K CPU
a i3 12100f beating in single tread a ryzen 7 5800x3d daam
why you make so good content lol
i have I7 11700K
Is it worth upgrading an i7 8700k to an 11700k ? I play on a 3070ti on 1440p mostly fps, and assassins creed
I went from a i7 8700k to an i7 11700k before I moved to an i5 12600k and it was a nice little performance boost, not much but just overall felt smoother and the 1% lows was better as you get a nice little ipc improvement but to be fair it isn’t worth it for the long run and I have an rtx 3070ti. Plus you can have a gen4 nvme ssd but if you are going to do that you might as well upgrade to alder lake as you are going to need a new motherboard anyway or wait for raptor lake
i dont think that the mainstream gamer has a 6950x for 1080p gaming
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I want to ask you a question, please answer me, is there a big difference between a core i5 12600k and 12600kf processor in performance or not?
I think that the only difference between this two cpu are one comes with inner grated graphics and other doesn’t. Other than that, I think everything is similar
For gaming not so different but if you are creator i5-12600k is better because it has igpu inside which is let you use your pc without external GPU
K and Kf without vga.. For this cpus u need Z series motherboard.. Overclockable
@@Hablift u don't need a z series, but if you wanna oc you do. I have a 12600kf on b660, because I don't intend on overclocking anyway
In performance, they are the same. The "F" at the end means that it doesn't come with integrated graphics which means you need a dedicated graphics card. This leads to it being cheaper and it's a great deal if you were going to buy a GPU anyway.
The 12600k is still unbeatable for the price
Nice!
I have a i5 12600k
Man this video is hard to find
Gonna save 5600x for future
Hey, is it possible to build a 1300 dollar budget pc with ryzen 7600x setup. If so , kindly someone tell me or geekawhat pls make a video on that eh
6 cores 😤 Too expensive.
You also need to upgrade to windows 11. 🤮
I game at 4K so the 7950X for me.
Hey people. Do you trust him?🙂🐶
@GeekaWhat what is the best gpu to pair with the ryzen 5 5600x?
Depends at what resolutions are you playing at and what you are planing on doing with your cpu and gpu
I have a 5600x paired with a 6800xt I’m playing at 1440p on a 27c omen 240hz 1440p monitor but I’m just strictly gaming
@@AzSureno I was thinking that same setup also 😭. I’m just tryna play every game on pc no more console for me
@@thatkidugly it wouldn’t be no problem , 5800x and up are people who would do more work like production type stuff or adobe that require more cores
@@AzSureno what about a 6700xt or 6750xt
Is a 5600x and 3080 fine?
no
a 3080 might be a bit too much for 5600x
@@klulms1092 thanks
@@billyeats267 if you want a cpu in that price range, I'd recommend an i5-12400F: it is a bit cheaper, has around the same performance. You could also pair the 12400f with a 3060 (Geeka has a video about cpu and gpu combos)
On 1080p, no. 1440p, probably. 4K, yes
Is 5600X still worth it over i5-2600k for gaming and light editing(After effects)? The 5600X is 229€ and i5-12600k is 379€ in my country but I also have to get the motherboard for both of them. Is it worth to get extra cores or go with 5600 and get slightly better GPU?
5600x and a used 3060ti
The 12400f is cheaper and either equal to or better in most benchmarks. It also takes less power.
Hi mare by eny chance do u have a spare PC that u don't need or use. If so let me know I will take it for u so u have more space to do these amazing videos keep up the good work. 👍 👏 👏
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@@viggoketelaar7106 i dont have many
@@ko9865 ur problem
core i3 + 3060Ti is best
@@vdtb1758 rally
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Can I use ddr4 memory with i5 12600k?
First