If we would’ve known the 120A was gonna be this good, Gaijin should’ve given China the J11B. PL-12’s are good but not completely cracked, much better avionics package with good flight performance but nooooooo that’s makes too much sense. Here we got a J11 mixed with J11A stuff. Same terrible radar as the su27S/J11 with MAW and r77. Ok
I have been saying this since before we even knew the j11a was coming. We already have pl12, 8's, 5c's all they would have to do is add the pl15 when the meteor drops but "Gaijin likes money" -Mr.Krabs
Yeah China honestly should have recieved the J10 in place of the J8F, receiving the the M2K treatment and getting the updated weapons later on, don’t know how I feel about the way the flanker is in the game despite it being one of my favorite aircraft ever built
Its not 120A but a bit cut 120C Real 120a has phoenix-like homing head and same characteristics The range is also very very questionable. Irl British tested both 120A and 77 and they found out that 77 has a bit more range and more maneuverability Thats gayjin, they like to add non existing things. First thing I remember is aphe shell for t-44 which it has never had and same for m1 for example But they do lie and, you know, we have a "swings balance" but rn its too stupid as the Reds just can do literally nothing with those brooen radars and dogshit missiles
Pretty baffled they went with the J11A instead of the B since Pl-12 is in the game, and iirc it should have a better RWR. also still just using imported stuff instead of J10 and FC1k. c'mon gaijin.
Gaijin has an extremely noticeable habit of adding a plane that we should’ve gotten 3 patches ago now so it’s DOA. J-11B is what we should’ve gotten now
Yeah I cant fly this although I want to. I think you're better off using the J8F. Only 2 Amraams, but they're better and the RWR is modern. The J11A is literally a copy of the normal J11, except it gets MAW and R77s. ... Im *still* waiting for my J10 though :)
I was gonna say i get why they didnt add the J-11B cause AESA but doing a quick Wikipedia search the first J-11Bs didn't have AESA, just a much better pulse doppler, RWR, MAW and ECM, with PL-8 and PL-12, that would probably make it the best Flanker in the game but it wouldnt be game breaking. Later down the line you can add a J-11BG with AESA, PL-10 and PL-15 and the chinese engines
It would still be better than this J-11A because it has better avionics better radar better RWR and most likely doesn't have a 10km ACM mode to top it off
I played some matches rb and I can tell you that the markers for missiles don’t really work for fox 3s. It’s quite similar to the tactical gameplay in ec. Still faster and more „spammy“
Huh honestly wondering whats the worst at top tier with the lack of situational awareness the J-11 gets the two bus's in the F-4 ICE and the Tornado F.3 Late if you take the teams out of it it's a fair toss
incredible how war thunder does something wrong and the tilte says "THE WORST CHINA HAS TO OFFER". Dude, if it was an american jet the title would be "Gaijin attacks again", I love the product of propaganda in western society
What US treatment? The US has always been the most competitive nation in war thunder since the F-14 was added. If China were to actually get the US treatment the America mains wouldve been crying on the forum for days like they did when the Su-27 was announced
USA has been extremely powerful for years. The worst that they've been able to say for a long time is that sometimes they might be second best or that they're overall the best with the exception of an opponent being a bit better than them in one aspect.
It’s not the worst. You just gotta be more careful with your approaches and set up with engagements. Rwr should be more so a tool or a guide not something to rely on. Different play style for sure. Flanking is the name of the game I’d say. It’s a flanker for a reason.
1: LMAO what do you think is worse? 2: It's not a "flanker" and was never given that name by the russians. "Flanker" is the NATO reporting name for the plane, and it's simply a word beginning with the letter 'F' that they pulled out of a hat. The Su-27 isn't noteworthy at being a flanker than the Mig-21 was for being a bed for fish.
If we would’ve known the 120A was gonna be this good, Gaijin should’ve given China the J11B. PL-12’s are good but not completely cracked, much better avionics package with good flight performance but nooooooo that’s makes too much sense. Here we got a J11 mixed with J11A stuff. Same terrible radar as the su27S/J11 with MAW and r77. Ok
And no ground ordinance like it did irl. Whack.
J-11A MLU then
I have been saying this since before we even knew the j11a was coming. We already have pl12, 8's, 5c's all they would have to do is add the pl15 when the meteor drops but "Gaijin likes money" -Mr.Krabs
Yeah China honestly should have recieved the J10 in place of the J8F, receiving the the M2K treatment and getting the updated weapons later on, don’t know how I feel about the way the flanker is in the game despite it being one of my favorite aircraft ever built
Its not 120A but a bit cut 120C
Real 120a has phoenix-like homing head and same characteristics
The range is also very very questionable.
Irl British tested both 120A and 77 and they found out that 77 has a bit more range and more maneuverability
Thats gayjin, they like to add non existing things. First thing I remember is aphe shell for t-44 which it has never had and same for m1 for example
But they do lie and, you know, we have a "swings balance" but rn its too stupid as the Reds just can do literally nothing with those brooen radars and dogshit missiles
No one:
Chinese RWR lady: "C H E W Y C O R V E T T E"
the bruetooth device is ready to pear
And I was bitching with my 27sm!
with all the options China now has gaijin still decides to absolutely fk China over with hammy down soviet export models.
Pretty baffled they went with the J11A instead of the B since Pl-12 is in the game, and iirc it should have a better RWR. also still just using imported stuff instead of J10 and FC1k. c'mon gaijin.
Will probably be added later
aesa radar I think
Truly Pain
@@ItzCPU_ i have hopes for the Christmas update but I fear I shouldn’t get too excited, for the J10 atleast
Gaijin has an extremely noticeable habit of adding a plane that we should’ve gotten 3 patches ago now so it’s DOA. J-11B is what we should’ve gotten now
Yeah I cant fly this although I want to. I think you're better off using the J8F. Only 2 Amraams, but they're better and the RWR is modern.
The J11A is literally a copy of the normal J11, except it gets MAW and R77s.
... Im *still* waiting for my J10 though :)
I was gonna say i get why they didnt add the J-11B cause AESA but doing a quick Wikipedia search the first J-11Bs didn't have AESA, just a much better pulse doppler, RWR, MAW and ECM, with PL-8 and PL-12, that would probably make it the best Flanker in the game but it wouldnt be game breaking. Later down the line you can add a J-11BG with AESA, PL-10 and PL-15 and the chinese engines
I chose to grind Sweden over going for the J11A I wish they just added the J10 or aim 120s to the MLU
AIM-120A irl wasnt as good as it is ingame
THIS AIM120A look like a aim120c
same way how the r27er was 10x as good as it is ingame than irl lol
Now imagine the Israeli F-15C without TWS or HMS ACM
Wait until they add F-CK-1 in lol.
The fuck
It would still be better than this J-11A because it has better avionics better radar better RWR and most likely doesn't have a 10km ACM mode to top it off
J-11A is probably my favorite rn also because it's gonna keep getting better Armaments
it won't
it never carried chinese missiles so it's just gonna stay in this garbo state pretty much forever
J-11 Is meh. I'm a big sucker for nice interiors. The J-11 is just so bland inside. Great video as always!
kinda jank not simming the spo-15 range to threat. it HAS the ability to with the ring. shame its not modeled
7:33 Well said SimplySinful
@@ItzCPU_ he's a wise man
what would u say is your personal fave ARH platform for sim? ive been getting alot more vids recommended to me about the gamemode n im curious
@@blessthismessss F15 hand down
What you think about new SB RWR mechanics then you dont see friendly locks and friendly fire at you ?
I played some matches rb and I can tell you that the markers for missiles don’t really work for fox 3s.
It’s quite similar to the tactical gameplay in ec. Still faster and more „spammy“
Can I get a video on yak-141?
love the vids! keep them coming. need better stuff for red side ASAP. give us the R-77-1!
@@Sky_King7 gibgivgibgibgibgibgibgibgibgib
@@nimbal3304the funny thing is that the r77-1 in the files still performs worse than the 120A. Fox 3's are a fucking joke
Huh honestly wondering whats the worst at top tier with the lack of situational awareness the J-11 gets the two bus's in the F-4 ICE and the Tornado F.3 Late if you take the teams out of it it's a fair toss
I kinda like the J-11
Try the F4F Ice, it is more fun.
just notch big bro russian bias
9:19 yes, yes you did
Nah bro he didn't. Tree is a fed fr fr
incredible how war thunder does something wrong and the tilte says "THE WORST CHINA HAS TO OFFER". Dude, if it was an american jet the title would be "Gaijin attacks again", I love the product of propaganda in western society
bruh it’s just a game 😭😭😭
China getting the USA treatment
What? The US is one of the most competitive nations at top tier, only nation that might beat it is japan.
USA was never bad and if it was it was for one patch
What US treatment? The US has always been the most competitive nation in war thunder since the F-14 was added. If China were to actually get the US treatment the America mains wouldve been crying on the forum for days like they did when the Su-27 was announced
USA has been extremely powerful for years. The worst that they've been able to say for a long time is that sometimes they might be second best or that they're overall the best with the exception of an opponent being a bit better than them in one aspect.
Another US main talking bs not understanding how handheld his TT is
It’s not the worst. You just gotta be more careful with your approaches and set up with engagements. Rwr should be more so a tool or a guide not something to rely on. Different play style for sure. Flanking is the name of the game I’d say. It’s a flanker for a reason.
Alright, i'm taking notes...
You can’t flank enemies when you both spawn across from each other and even if you try to sneak behind them they can see you with TWS before you do so
@SalSal-om1en especially if both party just goes right
1: LMAO what do you think is worse? 2: It's not a "flanker" and was never given that name by the russians. "Flanker" is the NATO reporting name for the plane, and it's simply a word beginning with the letter 'F' that they pulled out of a hat. The Su-27 isn't noteworthy at being a flanker than the Mig-21 was for being a bed for fish.
It is objectively the worst and factually the worst it literally can't guide missiles at more than one target at once