I think most of this is a manufacturer's fault. I'd like to see them design so you can do an emergency drop on the battery in case of fire. Are there electric vehicles don't seem to have that many problems Nev s golf carts, grocery carts, I guess we'll have to wait for the hydrogen fuel cell Electric vehicles. What is shame gas cars have gotten ridiculously expensive to repair in no small part to what mechanics are getting and they're not even licensed in most States. Seems like the entirety of the car business is based on extreme greed incompetence disregard for the customer
I own a truck repair shop, I made this argument about the Tesla Semi. All the fanboys claim that it isn't going to break because it doesn't have a "complex" diesel engine. Well the facts are that most of the repairs I get in my shop are not engine repairs. There is still the rest of the truck, suspension, steering, lights, air brake systems, heating and air conditioning, door latches and thousands of other stuff to break. Tesla can't even supply parts to repair it's cars. No way am I going to be able to get what I need to fix the Semi
Modern internal combustion engines from reputable manufacturers all but don't fail. It's all the ancillary stuff that packs up. And all of that ancillary stuff is in any vehicle, be it a '63 Beetle, W whatever Kenworth or a Tesla. OK, I'm not a heavy vehicle operator, but in 35 years of driving cars, the only major failure that I've had in relation to an engine is a failed head gasket on a W203 Mercedes. And my experience seems to be pretty normal. Yes, of course, if you're racing cars or bikes, you'll blow them up, but a "normal", "boring" car will wear out well and truly before the engine dies.
Yea, I went to trade school for auto/diesel. I started out working in a suspension shop. Made leaf springs from flat spring steel stock, etc. I did this because I figured the one thing that will "always be" on vehicles is, where it meets the road. My thought being, until they make them hover, a suspension "problem" will Always need fixed. 👍✌️
The Tesla semi truck is a joke. The companies that run them (Pepsi & Lays) make the drivers sign a lengthy NDA with loads of "or else" clauses. The truck gets about 1/2 the claimed distance. The companies had to drop millions into multi-megawatt 1600 VDC chargers they can only use during off peak hours.
@@cd0999 yeah, I worked for a sign shop. Big crane trucks. A local propane company paid us to convert 5 of our vehicles over to propane burners. Biggest mistake the company ever made. You can't beat diesel power. You just can't, yet.
@ncode03 NOT TRUE !!!!!⛔️⛔️⛔️ Designs change ,things become obsolete . I have several items , from Makita drills to vacuum cleaners etc , all fit for landfill only , as the batteries are OBSOLETE ! The products are FINE !
I don’t know of anyone who wants to work on an EV. I know of young people who are training or recently trained to be mechanics.- none of them want to work on evs. In fact one left because his employer - who had just finished getting them trained - insisted they go and get training for EV’s. Apparently they were not the only technician (mechanic) to leave!
@@suecharnock9369I have been driving Nissan leaf for the past 11 years, got into multiple accidents, never have problems to get it fixed in third party body shops and service centers, didn’t even need to visit dealer.
Low battery issues just like computers in gas cars to malfunction ,what happens if your EV has a low battery and goes into Packman mode and the self driving software starts running people over ,wakawakawaka!
It’s not that dangerous. I’m an electrician. There are clear SOP’s for disconnecting and isolating the battery. There is more Danger in you changing an outlet than working on an ev
“Complexity for EV repairs” is a bit of a euphemism. The reality is “danger of EV repairs.” Small damage to the batteries can lead to thermal runaway days or weeks later, causing an extremely hot fire with toxic smoke, which will destroy anything nearby, even buildings.
Most likely what most mechanics are thinking: "Do I take a risk getting electrocuted or burning my garage" or "Do I play safe and tell the customer I don't work with EVs". The choice is obvious...
@@TRcommanderif they were that much better we would already be using them. The only thing I trust less than a tech bro or yay science person is the Chinese government
😂 there are manual latches on the doors. Please inform your self before hating. Sit in the car. There are electric openers but also manual ones. We can meet in germany I can show you
@@marcbeebee6969 but does everyone know that or read the manuals witch are not included with lots of things anymore now you have to do emergency training to exit a car like a crashed airplane
@@ford351w83 its commen sense if you cant find them dont drive a car. Dont give me that sh**. I am german i have no patience for your tik tok view of world...
@@ford351w83 in a tesla the manual is digital on the screen. You can search doors. You need a more detailed description or did you see a school from the inside once before? Even the people in the ghetto know this. Reflect mate
@@ford351w83 you could never Drive German cars in the past twenty years without reading the manual. Cars are a complicated high investment you can take a hour to read the manual or you are not worthy.
They mentioned the lack of technicians, especially in rural areas, and lack of suitable charging stations in metropolitan areas. I live in a rural area, and the nearest changing station to me is is 30 miles (48km) and the nearest dealer/service center is 65 miles (104km) away. One other thing that is rarely mentioned is due the EVs being substantially heavier than a gas powered vehicle is that tires wear out much more quickly. The average 50/60 thousand mile tires will only last 25 thousand if not less.
Rubbish I drove a toyota prius for the last three years of a 20 year taxi driving career and they didn't suffer from any excessive tyre wear - they suffered the same types of mechanical failures as every other vehicle does - flat batteries, blown light bulb, occasional flat tyre and other mostly minor repairs The biggest problem is the electricals are far too costly to repair - To fix the front end of a priyus was around AUS$15000 so the insurance companies decided to write them off rather than repair them
@@evangiles4403 Toyota prius not really all that much hevier than ICE as the battery is pretty small. It's the Full EV's and new drivers I thnik that love to floor it off the light that causes premature ware As Big Trucks are heavy and those tires seem to be ok but don't race off the light.
I was driving down the onramp leading to the freeway, it was a very sharp bend and I did not see the large rock that an earlier truck had somehow lost from his load. My Honda Civic only had 6" of ground clearance and the rock was 9" high. My car skidded right over it, and caused a massive scratch under my car, but nothing needed repairing/replacing. Do the same with an electric car and the battery will need replacing and that usually cost more than the car cost new.
If it doesn't explode, catch fire, lock you inside and or careen out of control. Just saw a quickly tarnishing Tesla Truck, barreling down 8mi. Laugh Every time I see it. Looks even worse with the staining, rusting, corrosion on the exterior. The front light bar is so tacky, it doesn't require fasteners.
@@Cakebatteredbecause of the repair costs of EV all insurances went up everywhere. My insurance almost double from last year and we had no accident. In England insurance went up even 10 yimes for EV
@@Cakebattered And my insurance will go up for it ! Nothing personal but why should my Insurance premium go up to pay for your electric toy ? This BS Govt Manipulation has Got to STOP. Speaking with my VOTE. Sadly California is a lost cause.
I put 190k on my 1.2L petrol car from new, it's still going strong and the most expensive repairs were the timing chain that set me back around £350. Currently changing oil and filter every 3-5000 miles. The car is 19 years old and fun to maintain.
. Even Joe Biden is getting away from the EV push he once had, his administration is going to push hybrids now . The Democrats have learned mentioning *"**#EVs**"* hurts him on the campaign trail !❗️!
Only because of their cheap design, lack of engineering, and drive for the all mighty dollar no matter the cost the cost being your car, your home, your life. I beleived in all the Hype initially of simple electric cars built to be Simple & bullet proof, alas with all the frail poorly deisgned gadgets. The lies started on day 1 and continues on to this day. I am glad they are expensive as they should be. I hope the Early Adoptors really loose their asses on this. What a Joke. Get Govt OUT ! People are so lazy and refuse to get their hands dirty or learn anything. Like how a spair wheel and Jack is really needed. How Dumb do you have to be. Lets go on a drive with no steering wheel !
465,000 miles on my V8 2003 Mercury Marquis. Less than $700 in repairs since new. Still runs and drives like new, and yes, I am only getting 14 mpg city/25 hwy, but I don't care.. keep your EV, I'll keep my V8 gas car.....
Justin's already making money off it petrocan charging stations already being installed ,most expensive than all the other double on some other chargers wonder if he voted on any infrastructure funding for those ,I smell a rat and his name is Justin.
They just don't make any sense. Their environmental credentials are at best highly questionable, they are proven to be expensive to buy, repair, insure and require more maintenance than most like to admit and the constant updating of new models adds to the already frightening rate of depreciation. The only thing about them which might be engaging for a while might be the rapid low-speed acceleration but the fun of that would wear off pretty quickly leaving you with a characterless, expensive commodity. They are effectively a lesson in how to blow large amounts of money very quickly with little enjoyment or pleasure in return.
Charge at home on off peak hours, don't have a long way to drive each day so you're always within it's range, buy used after it's hugely depreciated, sell after a year and get your money back. Then repeat yearly. Now you have a very low maintenance and running vehicle that doesn't depreciate. People just don't analyze situations very well.
Why do those EV cars need software that always seems to fail? Cant they just build a simple EV that you turn a key that connects the power and off you go, like a large golf cart? Just make them simple and affordable and lots of people would buy them simple as that! instead they worry about having self drive, GPS screens, internet connection, blue tooth, voice command, electric door locks, power seats and other electronic gizmos, large digital dash display all the things that require miles of extra wiring along with too many sensors and computer boards that can fail, Cars like a Honda Fit, Chevy Spark, Toyota Yaris are small cars that have little or no sophisticated electronics or luxuries and they sell , You can hardly find any of those cars for sale, even a cheap EV with only a 150 mile range would sell lots of them, There are millions of people out there that dont drive a lot of miles everyday but need basic transportation like kids driving to high school every day , people that need a second car to run local errands, That was basically the idea of the original VW beetle make a vehicle that is basic transportation cheap enough for anybody to afford, They can always build 100,000 dollar pickup trucks later
SCOTUS striking down Chevron this year and effectively castrating the EPA could actually save the domestic auto market if they are no longer held to ridiculous standards
It’s like a cellphone. You need constant updates so the company can monitor and disable your device when they want you back in the showroom. I have never owned a cellphone for more than 3 or 4 years before it mysteriously died. My wife has an iPad going on 8 years now-never connected to a service. She only uses it with the house WiFi. Never a problem. Never cried to be updated. Battery lasts for days.
One major problem. Any computer that's sits in an controlled environment ok. Put a computer in a box drive around hot cold wet damp dry plus shook around on disgusting roads, it ain't good .
@@brianwhite6616 I was watching a documentary about this not too long ago. The narrator was talking about how electronics occasionally freeze -like your cable box, blue circle on your phone or computer. What happens when the electronics on the car freeze at a critical moment?
There was no information available when the first EV’s were released. The only information available was what was fed to us by ev manufacturers. That held out the pro is that by the time support was needed it would be there.
nah, they wont "build up" in lots... mainly as they have this nifty "self deleting" mode... can activate at any time... leaving an empty barren wasteland, neatly cleared.
Electronics can be easily manipulated or programmed exactly when to fail. That’s why older cars lasted. My 1974 Cadillac was a carburetor, engine, transmission, drive line, rear end-period! Electronic Nothing! If I was good at body work, I would probably still be driving that car today!
They are getting rid of many Tesla repair technicians. I know one that is highly skilled and was let go a week ago. They told him there is not a market for the car repairs. I guess they are just totalling the vehicles after minor or semi severe damage.
From what I've heard many EVs are getting totaled simply for having scratches on the battery covers. No intrusion into the battery compartment, just surface scratches...
I own a 2000 KTM electric dirt bike and a 2022 Chevy Bolt. I bought the Bolt because the KTM was the first dirt bike I have ever had that I didn't have to do constant maintenance on. Now it's 4.5 years old and the only parts I have had to buy are those I knocked off of it hitting trees. My Bolt's first "service" is at 150,000 miles! Of course my Bolt is not my only car. I NEVER intend to travel in it, but for an around town commuter car, I think it's the best car out there. It saves me tons of money. My battery is warrantied for 8 years. If I do have to buy a battery (which is unlikely) , that cost compared to maintenance on my ICE cars will be acceptable, but I don't expect that to happen. I was a Honda technician from 1971 until 2009. I'm retired now but have a shop here at home and probably work harder than when I was in dealerships. BTW, I also hold a U.S. patent on a free valve design for ICE energy transfer units. That's got to be the next big step for ICE. Keep an open mind.
I have towed a few of those EV bikes out of the desert, when they thought they would just keep going LOL for me i have extra gas easily stored those EV bikes are just dead weight
Only five hours at slow chargers. My model y home charger charges at night at 45 miles per hour. At a Tesla supercharger charging takes about fifteen minutes.
My 2023 Model S catastrophically failed after 5k miles. Rear drive unit failed and caused the whole car to shut down. Who builds a car with 2 separate drive units but can’t make it keep going when one fails? That means you don’t have redundancy and instead have double the chance of being stranded. Horrible engineering and design. Took 3 weeks to fix. Sold it within 1 week of it being fixed. My life and my family’s lives are too valuable to save a few pennies on gasoline.
A catastrophic failure might lock the drive axle so the other drive unit won't help you. I think the tesla drives have had its share of problems but are relatively simple, compact systems. Probably bad manufacturing.
How much computer use can there possibly be in an EV? A motor and a speed controller was all experimenters needed decades ago. But the enormous problem I've been asking is where all the chargers are. They're rare from what I've seen, and non existent at lodgings which means you can't travel overnight with an EV. A third of the U.S. population can't even charge at home because they live in rental property with no hope of installing a charger.
My GF was really pissed at Tesla as she had a problem while charging and could not get a support person to help time was 3:00 PST. Problem was related to a update by Tesla which changed the AMP setting to the original charge rate of 34. I had set to 24 amps. At the 34 amp setting it fried the wires. Fortunatly it did not cause a house fire. I did the repair and she rest the the charge rate to 24 amps. Tesla updates should not touch the charge settings.
Nothing wrong with a blower as long as you don't beat the car. But if you need it just to move the car, it's junk. I bought my wife a new Renegade and instead of that pop bottle Turbo 1.3 they all have, (even the Trail Hawk) I drove out 150 miles, and got their "big" naturally aspirated 2.4 with the ZF 9 speed automatic. It's a very well built modern low RPM engine and it takes absolutely no effort for it to run the truck around, which is a surprise considering its size. But my 6 cylinder Pentastar is like that. She's also coupled with a full blown U-Connect system complete with NAV. The pop bottle would have to sound like a jet engine, all the time, to do the same thing. Best move I could've made. And we've had it 5 years now without so much as a check engine light. A really nice little Jeep.
I don't think anybody is going to take an old car battery and use it in a multi million battery storage solution... The insurance company would not allow that...
Electrical problems in cars have always been among the most expensive. Was there any program for training EV mechanics? All mechanics are in short supply at the moment. Software issues are getting to be major problems for all vehicles.
Insurance companies don't have a long term record on EVs. Once they have a ten year history on the actual cost of EV failure, these cars will become uninsurable, when this finally happens the whole EV market will collapse.
@@futurefirm No he is not. You clearly do not know what a conservative is. Elon Musk has described himself as a "moderate" and a "registered independent. He has also expressed libertarian views, believing that the government should rarely impose its will upon the people.
@@JohnSmith-ug5ciI know for a fact, he has agreed to donate 45 millions dollars a month to traitor trump using money he has conned from Tesla owners. That is proof enough for me. He is a CONservative in my book.
@@JohnSmith-ug5ci Nope, he has agreed to donate 45million a month to treasonous trump and has benefitted from that ill-gotten money by conning Tesla owners. That makes him a CONservative in my book.
The "stark reality" I've experienced in my BMW I3 is 4¢ per mile fueling cost, around 2.6¢ maintenance and repair. The only action needed in 114,000 miles which could be called a "repair" has been replacement of the VRLA 12 volt battery, it cost $122 at NAPA Auto Parts and I replaced it myself. The record shows the only cheaper way to get there is by bicycle, or walking.
The problem with both sides of this argument is there are always some of the user population that has a different experience with the same product. Your good experience is countered by the next person whose I3 was horrible for them. Same for ICE vehicles, there are people posting here about Camry’s but my experience with a Camry was bad because the engine blew up. Reality is the blue book reliability data for EV’s isn’t any better then ICE cars, its out there for all of us to look at. The point of this video (i think) is that EVs have not lived up to the hype about being better to repair.
I'm sticking with old school cars with an engine. With a traditional car, the engine if properly maintained will last you for about 15 to 30 years. And if it's a Japanese car then it's going to last you for a very very long time. However, with a battery operated car, after about 5:00 to 6:00 or 7 years, you need to change out the battery and that is a very costly purchase and procedure. And the people that replace it have to be tech savvy. Because it requires someone with the knowledge of how to do it and not a mechanic
@@humming-birdaerialimaging682I get what you're trying to say...but I also know you know what the original post is saying, and that this isn't a real answer.
Buy a Toyota for the same price cost to own car is payments and insurance. That doesn't change electric or gas cars. Drive a Toyota 400 miles, and take 10 minutes to refill and drive another 400 miles. Gasoline and oil changes are much cheaper and the cost of repairs can be done at thousands of repair shops. Toyota can get 200,000 miles if oil changes and air filters serviced.
Newest Toyotas are crap. Toyota got complacent and started mak8ng crap in the early 2000,. I had a 2004 4Runner and it ran fine for the first 30,000 miles, then everything started breaking and malfunctioning one after another. Factory radio/CD player fried, the dashboard fried, the center console info center, blinking in and off. Center diff gasket leaked, rear wheel bearings gone, after $3,600 of out of pocket costs, I got rid of the damned POS. I had purchased the sergice plan to it was in the dealer getting oil and filter changes right on the button. Never Toyota again. I bought a 2017 Ford F250 6.7 diesel years later and it has been very reliable and durable. 116,000 miles on it with just a few minor issues that got fixed right away. Never left me stranded. Hell with Toyota. Has anyone reqd about thr engine gunking issues? Thousands of Toyotas woth engine gunk and they claim it was from lack of oil changes. Customers with receipts showing all oil changes done at thr dealer! Then came thr frame rusting with people losing e tire front ends when thr frame crumbled into dust and the front axle slammed into thr ground. It cost Toyota $3 BILLION to settle th3 class action lawsuit to repair or replace the frames. This was after Toyota kept denying there was a problem and pushing people away until the frames cracked. Toyota makes junk now.
I'm at 336,000 miles, going strong in my 2011 4x4 RAV 4 four cylinder that still averages just under 25 mpg city/highway. I off road it quite a bit and knocked all of the plastic skid "plates" where an expensive battery would be if it were an electric. Picked them up an tossed them back in the car, no expensive repair needed. BTW it's paid off and good for another 100,000 miles. I like the idea of electric vehicles, my finances do not.
All of these are good arguments and yet you left out the big four: Range anxiety as these vehicles don't go very far and the battery degrades a little bit each year so you get less range than advertised. Weak infrastructure, there aren't enough charging stations, and of the ones that are there half of the units don't work unless you're at a Tesla station. And thirdly, the rare earth chemicals needed to make the batteries are in short Supply and are very expensive. People need to wake up and face reality. EVS are a fail. The best solution is a hybrid that can plug in and get about 70 Mi of range on the battery. Contrary to what climate cultists suppose, there's not enough power in the power grid to supply energy to run Vehicles if a large portion of the population has EVS, and keep in mind that fossil fuels power the power plants! Ps. As a former Tesla Model 3 owner I will never get another one .
I agree but I'm reading that the Hybrid's are just as troublesome as the EV's=same difference just gives you a second chance when the battery fails then they drive it to perdition on Gas~!!!
YEP, Toyota went with Hydrogen Fuel Cell instead with the Mirai. Guess what, only a few Hydrogen stations in S California and less in N California. I saw only one Mirai (of a friend) so far, but many many Tesla around me every day, count more than 20 in my neighborhood.
Too many bells and whistles. An EV should be dead-nuts reliable compared to a gasoline vehicle. Think about it: no fuel system, no ignition system, no engine cooling system, no exhaust or evap systems, no catalytic converter, no pressurized engine oil system, no transmission -- all provided the vehicle is designed properly, of course. The motor has essentially one moving part, and the solid-state motor drive has zero. Not much to go wrong, really. But, no...everything has to be grossly over-designed with useless or near-useless features, until it's unreliable and expensive to fix. If the EV industry concentrates on getting a vehicle from point A to point B and back, without the frills, then EVs may become successful in the long run.
I don't get it. The electric motor is very simple and reliable thing which should last around forever. Why it is expensive to repair EV? I get the batery, but the rest must be same or cheaper.
They still have a lot more going on than one would think. They still have coolant and brake fluid. And a tone of computer modules on board and sensors. Everything else will break around the motor and cost more than the car is worth. It’s the automotive industry. They don’t make money by selling long lasting vehicles.
Because of all the electronic gadgets and safety equipment. Take the toyota hilux champ truck they sell at 10.000 bucks and still make a profit. The western world painted itself in a corner with ridiculous high safety standards. The only thing you really need are driver and passenger side airbags and seat belts but our governments require all those ridiculous gadgets and electronic assistants that drive up the price and make it near impossible to fix your car.
I have a Peugeot 1.6 diesel, 2016 model estate, It does a minimum of 80mpg and 100mpg on a run, fully loaded with 4 adults. Why in the name of insanity would I want to switch to an EV???
$.05 cost per mile for electricity vs $.25 per mile cost for gas alone. Also, no oil changes, tune ups, stolen catalytic converters. Eight year battery warranty. Many Tesla fleet vehicles 250,000 miles on original battery.
Electric vehicles are a nightmare to maintain, ev manufacturers must take more responsibility in repairing EVs , every town and city must have several repair shops , they also must have as many charging stations as many as gas stations, I shouldn’t drive more than a couple of blocks to find a charging station. For a small amount as little as 100 per month a manufacturer must guarantee the battery for life. If an ev catches on fire the manufacturer must replace that vehicle, in extreme temperatures a battery mustn’t lose more than 1% a week , let’s assume tomorrow 90% of the cars on the road are electric, with number of charging stations unchanged, waiting time in these charging stations would take all day to charge the numbers of cars waiting to charge would be in the hundreds, and the cost to charge would be prohibitive not to mention blackouts in every city and town, this project is forced on us by impulse without adequate planning.
We have a 2007 Prius and a 2010 Prius. Both have been running great, no major repairs, 50 miles per gallon, nearly 500 mile range on a tankful. Agree with the comments about insufficient capacity for transportation system to handle large percentage of EVs. Not enough charging stations, takes too long to charge, and not enough energy on the grid to get it done even if those 2 problems were solved.
Replying to @markfrank187: "nearly 500 mile range on a tankful" of WHAT?? 1) pizza sauce? 2) shampoo? 3) baby oil? 4) veg oil? I GET IT NOW!! GASOLINE!!!!
Another thing - our electrical grid is already stressed , and they want to dump millions of EVs onto the grid in addition to all of the existing everyday power demands? It won't wok, it just won't.
This is why you need a free market economy. Politicians, ideologues and corporate subsidy grifters have created and legislated this plague upon consumers. They have been paid handsomely by disenfranchised taxpayers. A market economy bankrupts/ends products with much smaller flaws.
@@MarceloGarcia9...and it punished the people responsible through lost credibility and discontinued contracts, such a Chipolte abandoning the fellows who gave them salmonella-contaminated food. More often government-corpoate collusion just causes more of such abuses to get covered up or even subsidized, as in the case of companies putting toxic additives in our food, a fact hardly considered by congressman or reported by corporate news. With such a track record, I daresay the free-market approach is still superior.
This video reminds me of stories my grandpa told of passing model T's sitting on the side of the road with various problems. He said that he would yell "Get a horse " as he would ride past them on his palomino. I'm always amazed at how humans can't seem to see the big picture or think about the future. I suppose that is why about 75% of people end up at retirment age with little to no savings. The reality is that technology will continue until the end of time and the naysayers of today will be thankful that someone had the brains to try something else before crude oil gets super expensive because it is getting harder and more costly to extract. Could you inagine what life would be like if everyone still had to ride a horse? Thankfully there were visionary people around who started building automobiles and didn't quit at the first setback but rather kept working at it until after about 100 years (1886 to 2000) had created a pretty decent mode of transportation that was gradually improved over that period of time and reached it's zenith around the year 2000. In the meantime we had to put up with what were the earlier inferior sometimes frustrating versions of transportation, that were available along the way.
Are the majority not seeing "the bigger picture," or are you overlooking how for every product that delivers on being "the X of the future," there are a 1000 failures or things that end up existing as a niche beside the main product. Not to be cruel, but given Bankman-Fried only got convicted a bit over a year ago, EV enthusiasts should probably take a good look at how things worked out for crypto-bros before trying to shame us for ot buying into the "next big thing." One more thing: a lit of people don't save for retirement because they trust in the promises og the government regarding social security...the same government that's been trying to hamfist this transition to EVs. Just something to think about.
Got a 2007 crv with 200,000 miles plus! Still going except for AC blowing hot air. It still takes me from point A to B. I just have to endure the hot summer heat but bearable with a fan for now. I can't complain too much.
60 percent do not read at a normally level. hard to train the uneducated. I turn my own wrench and finding a good mechanic is hard nowadays. I mean the kind with passion for their craft.
These exact same arguments were made when the world switched from ice (frozen water) to refrigeration for food storage, we all know the winner of that contest. Markets adapt, the world goes on. I’m not a greenie but I am an engineer who enjoys repairing Tesla model 3s, I own 3 of them which I purchased very inexpensively and repaired myself using parts from my local service center. Great cars, fun and very inexpensive to drive.
I'm reminded of the FYX "don't miss out on the next big thing" commercial for the super bowl. How did that turn out. I don't know nor care how things work out for EVs in the long term, but for the love of personal finance, stop dismissing reasonable concerns over the latest big thing by pointing to the relative handful of successful inventions over history while ignoring the mountains of duds.
People were laughing at me when these cars first came out I was mentioning the cost and down time for repairs was going to financially take out a the owner..I also said that in the long run the electric car will not make the distance and the weather changes effects the performance of these vehicles...fast forward some of the people that own one are getting rid of them and going back to combustion vehicles
Create the infrastructure and then try to sell the product. The world is nowhere near ready for this. They need to be introduced much more slowly so they can evolve in a way that the problems can be overcome in an ordered and planned way.
The simpler a vehicle is the more reliable it is .My 97 year old single speed bicycle is testament to this. It let me down once when it had a puncture .It cost 7 shillings and sixpence when it was new, and I recently turned down an offer of £2000 for it. it costs pennys a year to run and in its lifetime has cost the price of a spanner a screwdriver and maybe 3 cans of oil for all the services it has had, EVER.I'm reasonable shure it will last the rest of my life then it will become the property of one of my grand children and last the the rest of their lives as well.
One EV fire required 50000 gallons of water to put out the fire. Several diesel powered water tanker trucks were used to haul the water to the fire scene.
This is a very biased and misleading video. I have been an EV owner for 2 years. Problems - none. Maintenance costs - none. Fuel costs - very low. I recharge twice a week in my garage at home. My energy is from a clean source, hydroelectric. My monthly electricity bills have hardly changed. I went the EV route because gasoline was becoming annoyingly expensive. The battery in my EV has an 8 year warranty. No worries.
I'm so delighted to see the EV fad circling the drain, and I was never buying one of those things, I love my V6 Accord. The video should have also covered the charging issues, and the billions Biden spent on charger stations and only a few were ever built, and then too the copper thieves cutting off the charging cables to sell the copper.
It varies from car to car, Teslas are like one off sports cars, like audis, etc. But the Hyundai ioniq ev uses pretty much every part they can from their hybrid and ice models, and doing that keeps the cost of parts down, and the older nissan leafs are super simple, and easy to work on. The cost of repairs on evs are a compound of issues, everything from auto manufactures making cars in general more difficult to work on, to them making their EVs with all one off custom parts that they cant use on any other model car. As a demonstration, go look at the cost to repair a Tesla door handle compared to any other EV (such as a older hyundai Ioniq). Maybe it sounds like im saying its not as bad as it is, i think rn it isn't, but its just going to get worse unless right to repair gets traction.
I'm an EV owner. Two years ago I damaged my Hyundai Ioniq EV when reversing on a foggy night. It was repaired by a local smash repairer recommended by my insurance company. The car looked as- new after the repair. All good since. So I haven't given up. Why would I?
Insuring your ev or hybrid is alot worse than you think One guy in the uk Got his insurance renewal for is ev It went from 438 pounds per year to 4010 pounds for the same ev Thats if he could even get insurance This after the two car cargo ships caught fire in 5 years , one end up sinking in the north sea and the other was the Fremantle princess which burn down to the water line ..... Most shipping companies in Europe now ban evs and Hybrids from thier cargo ships
What sort of government would actually force these expensive throw away monstrosities on its citizens? If we can't make our own choices, then privately owned vehicles will become a luxury for just a few wealthy people after 2035.
@@gefleigh4264 If that happens, the economy will collapse. EV mandates are unenforceable and unworkable. But as usual, the politicians failed to do their homework because it was more important for them to virtue signal and appear to be champions of the environment, and to be greener than anyone else on the planet.
i remember a guy in the bay area in the 70,s made the news when he took a lawn mower engine and an electric motor with 5 or 6 car alternators one big fan belt and some car batteries in an old car and i think he was getting like 100 miles a gallon from the lawn mower engine keeping batteries charged and drove it for years
I think that the only thing we miss is a EV car repair shop or have in the current repair shops a person, that can deal with a EV problem. Most of the parts are the same for EV/petrol cars, and for the battery, high voltage system and electric motor you need a specialist. So it could be a good business plan to have car repair shop that can handle EVs... All current cars are full of electronic systems, matrix lights, with modern CPUs to hande all the displays and software, etc. If somebody wants an easy and cheap to repair car, he should stay with 10 years old car...
Personally I wouldn’t buy a EV in first place due to all the things mentioned in the video. No thank you. Not worth the money . Yes when the breaks down ect . It gets pricey. . I’ll pass on it.
As an EV owner for more than 6 years and driving more than 70.000 km/year I can tell you that this is definitely not my experience. This video is fear mongering and an exaggeration of the problem. I don't believe that all cars should be EV's, but EV's are definitely here to stay. I wouldn't drive another car for my business trips than an EV.
It’s called the bleeding edge of technology for a reason. Recalling my childhood when my Father took me to the cities impound yard that was filled with wrecked and totaled pre-1960 vehicles. He pointed out the punctured windshields will holes the size of human heads…next the lack of crumple zones and crushed interior compartments splattered with dried blood. Overall, It was a ghastly life changing experience on many levels. I learned to respect the power of technology to be both beneficial and dangerous …
Politicians: “We can engineer better electrical motors. If we mass produce the market will force battery technology to advance alongside it” Law of Thermodynamics: “Hold my beer….”
Yes my insurance keeps going up. The insurance company is not in business, to go out of business. So they spread the increase cost around even to non EV owners .
In twenty years of owning an IC car, I only had two problems with the engine or gearbox. Didn't stop me from having other problems and visiting a mechanic once or twice per year.
Electric vehicles: Stupidest idea ever. Congratulations, you now drive a car powered by coal and natural gas. Lithium mines are visible from space...total wasteland. How environmental is this crap? A Honda Civic uses a hundred pounds of gasoline to travel about five hundred miles. A Tesla needs over a half ton of batteries, and can't even get there. Pathetic.
My U.K. bought Model S bought in 2018 has done 83k miles with three sets of tyres and 3 windscreen wipers. No service needed and the Red Beasty does more miles per charge than when I bought it. Best motor I have ever had and I’m 73 Years Old. This video is total rubbish as far as I am concerned and is biased.
Its like EV are following the cellphone model, something wrong, throw it away and buy a new one. So much for helping the environment.
Exactly.
Boneyards are going to be full of these things.
Sir you got it.
@@aheimdahl5201 Here they don't want them because it's way too expensive to deal with the highly toxic batteries.
@@totallyjonesin I agree.
IMO the battery tech just isn't there yet.
And don't get me started on the battery replacement costs.
How funny when a Tesla emergency repair engineer shows up in a dieselpowered van at the roadside 😂😂😂
Sometimes those vehicles gotta go long distances, the specialized mechanics can not be worried about *"Range_Anxiety"* .
Yep, EVs sucks.
I think most of this is a manufacturer's fault. I'd like to see them design so you can do an emergency drop on the battery in case of fire. Are there electric vehicles don't seem to have that many problems
Nev s golf carts, grocery carts, I guess we'll have to wait for the hydrogen fuel cell
Electric vehicles. What is shame gas cars have gotten ridiculously expensive to repair in no small part to what mechanics are getting and they're not even licensed in most States. Seems like the entirety of the car business is based on extreme greed incompetence disregard for the customer
That's the wakeup call.
@@paulwitmer7138 it's been like this for 20 years now, good morning, sweet prince.
LMFAO!!! Pretty Ironic isnt it. Hahah
I own a truck repair shop, I made this argument about the Tesla Semi. All the fanboys claim that it isn't going to break because it doesn't have a "complex" diesel engine. Well the facts are that most of the repairs I get in my shop are not engine repairs. There is still the rest of the truck, suspension, steering, lights, air brake systems, heating and air conditioning, door latches and thousands of other stuff to break. Tesla can't even supply parts to repair it's cars. No way am I going to be able to get what I need to fix the Semi
Modern internal combustion engines from reputable manufacturers all but don't fail. It's all the ancillary stuff that packs up. And all of that ancillary stuff is in any vehicle, be it a '63 Beetle, W whatever Kenworth or a Tesla. OK, I'm not a heavy vehicle operator, but in 35 years of driving cars, the only major failure that I've had in relation to an engine is a failed head gasket on a W203 Mercedes. And my experience seems to be pretty normal. Yes, of course, if you're racing cars or bikes, you'll blow them up, but a "normal", "boring" car will wear out well and truly before the engine dies.
Yea, I went to trade school for auto/diesel. I started out working in a suspension shop. Made leaf springs from flat spring steel stock, etc. I did this because I figured the one thing that will "always be" on vehicles is, where it meets the road. My thought being, until they make them hover, a suspension "problem" will Always need fixed. 👍✌️
The Tesla semi truck is a joke. The companies that run them (Pepsi & Lays) make the drivers sign a lengthy NDA with loads of "or else" clauses.
The truck gets about 1/2 the claimed distance. The companies had to drop millions into multi-megawatt 1600 VDC chargers they can only use during off peak hours.
@@cd0999 yeah, I worked for a sign shop. Big crane trucks. A local propane company paid us to convert 5 of our vehicles over to propane burners. Biggest mistake the company ever made. You can't beat diesel power. You just can't, yet.
Never will.@@leegoddard2618
Yep those ev are sure great for the environment when so many are being retired so quickly
more toxic land fill
Never mind the manufacturing environmental costs!
Exactly!!!
@@chriscunnane7596 DITTO!
Elon Musk is trash
EV’s are like early cordless power tools, the batteries were built in and when the battery went bad, it was cheaper to just buy another tool.
I remember the 2000s battery power tools, it was hilarious.
The 'tools' do " just buy another" !
That's the globalist idea .
What year are you living in? Almost all battery powered tools nowadays are replaceable and made to be swapped easily
@ncode03 NOT TRUE !!!!!⛔️⛔️⛔️
Designs change ,things become obsolete . I have several items , from Makita drills to vacuum cleaners etc , all fit for landfill only , as the batteries are OBSOLETE ! The products are FINE !
@@ncode03right. And the high price of the replacement battery makes it very attractive just to buy a new one.
One mistake working around a 2,000 pound lithium battery can kill you. Plus they're mechanics, not computer scientists.
I don’t know of anyone who wants to work on an EV. I know of young people who are training or recently trained to be mechanics.- none of them want to work on evs. In fact one left because his employer - who had just finished getting them trained - insisted they go and get training for EV’s. Apparently they were not the only technician (mechanic) to leave!
@@suecharnock9369I have been driving Nissan leaf for the past 11 years, got into multiple accidents, never have problems to get it fixed in third party body shops and service centers, didn’t even need to visit dealer.
Low battery issues just like computers in gas cars to malfunction ,what happens if your EV has a low battery and goes into Packman mode and the self driving software starts running people over ,wakawakawaka!
We repair ordinary digital cameras and they exit 320-volts, imagine an EV output?
It’s not that dangerous. I’m an electrician. There are clear SOP’s for disconnecting and isolating the battery. There is more
Danger in you changing an outlet than working on an ev
A throw-away car. Guess they didn't think about how to dispose of these junk cars.
Doesn't very environmentally friendly.
And carbon fiber ,and lithium ion batteries are NOT RECYCLEABLE
@@georgevavoulis4758 Not true. Lithium easily recyclable. Very profitable to recycle.
I hear if you bury a EV a duracel battery tree will grow
Elon Musk is to blame
“Complexity for EV repairs” is a bit of a euphemism. The reality is “danger of EV repairs.”
Small damage to the batteries can lead to thermal runaway days or weeks later, causing an extremely hot fire with toxic smoke, which will destroy anything nearby, even buildings.
Bingo, best reply i saw today!!!👋👋👋👍👍👍
Most likely what most mechanics are thinking: "Do I take a risk getting electrocuted or burning my garage" or "Do I play safe and tell the customer I don't work with EVs". The choice is obvious...
Not is they have LFP batteries like the standard range Tesla Model 3. Do your research.
EV fans will look you in the eye and deny any of this.
Because they’re ashamed of their poor decision in buying an electric vehicle.
China already use 2 new battery, the iron phosphate and sodium. Both won't burn or explode.
@@TRcommander Sure... and China is one of the counterfeit capitals of the world. Hope they don't use a fake cell in your battery banks....
@@TRcommanderif they were that much better we would already be using them. The only thing I trust less than a tech bro or yay science person is the Chinese government
Yeah but everybody knows they're lying.
My first and my last repair cost me over $ 28,000 dollars ... never again, we sold it
who brought it
Which sucker did you sucker into buying your BV car? 😮
Did you get your money back selling it. Even before EVs were knew to be 🤬I never had any intention of buying one.
Yeah, you drank to Kool-Aid. I will never buy an EV.
You could've bought a brand-new Honda Civic for $28K 🤪
Scary is how the batteries burst into flames without warning and the doors & windows won’t open trapping you inside
😂 there are manual latches on the doors. Please inform your self before hating. Sit in the car. There are electric openers but also manual ones. We can meet in germany I can show you
@@marcbeebee6969 but does everyone know that or read the manuals witch are not included with lots of things anymore now you have to do emergency training to exit a car like a crashed airplane
@@ford351w83 its commen sense if you cant find them dont drive a car. Dont give me that sh**. I am german i have no patience for your tik tok view of world...
@@ford351w83 in a tesla the manual is digital on the screen. You can search doors. You need a more detailed description or did you see a school from the inside once before?
Even the people in the ghetto know this. Reflect mate
@@ford351w83 you could never Drive German cars in the past twenty years without reading the manual. Cars are a complicated high investment you can take a hour to read the manual or you are not worthy.
They mentioned the lack of technicians, especially in rural areas, and lack of suitable charging stations in metropolitan areas. I live in a rural area, and the nearest changing station to me is is 30 miles (48km) and the nearest dealer/service center is 65 miles (104km) away. One other thing that is rarely mentioned is due the EVs being substantially heavier than a gas powered vehicle is that tires wear out much more quickly. The average 50/60 thousand mile tires will only last 25 thousand if not less.
OH boy.
Rubbish I drove a toyota prius for the last three years of a 20 year taxi driving career and they didn't suffer from any excessive tyre wear - they suffered the same types of mechanical failures as every other vehicle does - flat batteries, blown light bulb, occasional flat tyre and other mostly minor repairs
The biggest problem is the electricals are far too costly to repair - To fix the front end of a priyus was around AUS$15000 so the insurance companies decided to write them off rather than repair them
@@evangiles4403 Toyota prius not really all that much hevier than ICE as the battery is pretty small. It's the Full EV's and new drivers I thnik that love to floor it off the light that causes premature ware As Big Trucks are heavy and those tires seem to be ok but don't race off the light.
I was driving down the onramp leading to the freeway, it was a very sharp bend and I did not see the large rock that an earlier truck had somehow lost from his load. My Honda Civic only had 6" of ground clearance and the rock was 9" high. My car skidded right over it, and caused a massive scratch under my car, but nothing needed repairing/replacing. Do the same with an electric car and the battery will need replacing and that usually cost more than the car cost new.
If it doesn't explode, catch fire, lock you inside and or careen out of control.
Just saw a quickly tarnishing Tesla Truck, barreling down 8mi. Laugh Every time I see it.
Looks even worse with the staining, rusting, corrosion on the exterior. The front light bar is so tacky, it doesn't require fasteners.
Your insurance company will cover the repair/replacement.
@@Cakebatteredbecause of the repair costs of EV all insurances went up everywhere. My insurance almost double from last year and we had no accident. In England insurance went up even 10 yimes for EV
@@Cakebattered And my insurance will go up for it ! Nothing personal but why should my Insurance premium go up to pay for your electric toy ? This BS Govt Manipulation has Got to STOP. Speaking with my VOTE. Sadly California is a lost cause.
@@ImLivinSDCa. votes Democrat because a majority have a lower I.Q.
Software. I hate it. The last thing I want is a big iPad on wheels.
Me too~!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes my pal got a big Mecadese its all electronic no key But
as he drives he touche button and the car slows down to 5 MPH he has to stop and restart
EXPENSIVE Throwaway Electronic toys
I put 190k on my 1.2L petrol car from new, it's still going strong and the most expensive repairs were the timing chain that set me back around £350. Currently changing oil and filter every
3-5000 miles. The car is 19 years old and fun to maintain.
Why because they were garbage 🗑 from the beginning
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Even Joe Biden is getting away from the EV push he once had, his administration is going to push hybrids now .
The Democrats have learned mentioning *"**#EVs**"* hurts him on the campaign trail !❗️!
Elon Musk is garbage
Yes, it seems that we Americans have lost all common sense~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My 1995 Nissan 200SX is still going strong after 190,000 miles, and it’s RELIABLE too, -in contrast to BV cars. 😅
Can you imagine what the cost of replacement batteries would have been over time had that Nissan been an EV?
And it's got nice button and dial controls. Not any of this touch crap distracting screens on modern cars....
My 2006 Nissan Altima has 122,000 miles and it is basic transportation. Gets me to work and home. Gets me to the stores and home. I'm good!
But it s not trendy and prolly white privilege
You can have that. Lol. Don’t test drive a Lightning cuz you’ll be very …..very…..tempted. Lightning is awesome!!!
So in essence, The Electric Hot Wheels are like paper plates..Use one time and discard.😂😂😂
why do you think sizzlers failed when it came out in the mid 70s, the insides turned green with a little age
IS THAT SO WRONG???
Only because of their cheap design, lack of engineering, and drive for the all mighty dollar no matter the cost the cost being your car, your home, your life.
I beleived in all the Hype initially of simple electric cars built to be Simple & bullet proof, alas with all the frail poorly deisgned gadgets. The lies started on day 1 and continues on to this day. I am glad they are expensive as they should be. I hope the Early Adoptors really loose their asses on this. What a Joke. Get Govt OUT ! People are so lazy and refuse to get their hands dirty or learn anything. Like how a spair wheel and Jack is really needed. How Dumb do you have to be. Lets go on a drive with no steering wheel !
465,000 miles on my V8 2003 Mercury Marquis. Less than $700 in repairs since new. Still runs and drives like new, and yes, I am only getting 14 mpg city/25 hwy, but I don't care.. keep your EV, I'll keep my V8 gas car.....
Yes these are very nice solid cars. That is why Ford stopped making them. They lasted too long.
Fact: EV owners love waiting for hours to charge their cars and love waiting weeks, months, or years for simple EV repairs.
I own both a combustible vehicle and an EV….it took me 10 minutes to charge my EV at the charging station.
Went government gets involved you know they’re not good.
I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
@@Ricky40369 Acknowledge the source, please .
Ronnie Raygun. Forward to the past
Or is it,
Back to the Future.
DUMMYCRATS
Justin's already making money off it petrocan charging stations already being installed ,most expensive than all the other double on some other chargers wonder if he voted on any infrastructure funding for those ,I smell a rat and his name is Justin.
The car or the government 🤔 😂
They just don't make any sense. Their environmental credentials are at best highly questionable, they are proven to be expensive to buy, repair, insure and require more maintenance than most like to admit and the constant updating of new models adds to the already frightening rate of depreciation. The only thing about them which might be engaging for a while might be the rapid low-speed acceleration but the fun of that would wear off pretty quickly leaving you with a characterless, expensive commodity. They are effectively a lesson in how to blow large amounts of money very quickly with little enjoyment or pleasure in return.
They're an awfully expensive way to virtue signal, aren't they? Governments are delusional if they think their EV mandates are going to work.
You forgot about the satisfying roar of the speaker on some models! Lol
Yes, I assume a person has to be well off or Stupid to buy one~!!!
Charge at home on off peak hours, don't have a long way to drive each day so you're always within it's range, buy used after it's hugely depreciated, sell after a year and get your money back. Then repeat yearly. Now you have a very low maintenance and running vehicle that doesn't depreciate. People just don't analyze situations very well.
And the quick acceleration would lead to more tyre wear as well
Why do those EV cars need software that always seems to fail? Cant they just build a simple EV that you turn a key that connects the power and off you go, like a large golf cart? Just make them simple and affordable and lots of people would buy them simple as that! instead they worry about having self drive, GPS screens, internet connection, blue tooth, voice command, electric door locks, power seats and other electronic gizmos, large digital dash display all the things that require miles of extra wiring along with too many sensors and computer boards that can fail, Cars like a Honda Fit, Chevy Spark, Toyota Yaris are small cars that have little or no sophisticated electronics or luxuries and they sell , You can hardly find any of those cars for sale, even a cheap EV with only a 150 mile range would sell lots of them, There are millions of people out there that dont drive a lot of miles everyday but need basic transportation like kids driving to high school every day , people that need a second car to run local errands, That was basically the idea of the original VW beetle make a vehicle that is basic transportation cheap enough for anybody to afford, They can always build 100,000 dollar pickup trucks later
SCOTUS striking down Chevron this year and effectively castrating the EPA could actually save the domestic auto market if they are no longer held to ridiculous standards
It’s like a cellphone. You need constant updates so the company can monitor and disable your device when they want you back in the showroom. I have never owned a cellphone for more than 3 or 4 years before it mysteriously died. My wife has an iPad going on 8 years now-never connected to a service. She only uses it with the house WiFi. Never a problem. Never cried to be updated. Battery lasts for days.
But won't
One major problem. Any computer that's sits in an controlled environment ok.
Put a computer in a box drive around hot cold wet damp dry plus shook around on disgusting roads, it ain't good .
@@brianwhite6616 I was watching a documentary about this not too long ago. The narrator was talking about how electronics occasionally freeze -like your cable box, blue circle on your phone or computer. What happens when the electronics on the car freeze at a critical moment?
I will drive my reliable 2018 Mazda 3 until the wheels fall off .... it never breaks down.
Same with my little Nissan Versa. Bought it new in 2017, great gas mileage, change the oil and drive … 175,000 miles, going strong
17 year old Ford Fiesta, still running good!
15 year old Smart ForTwo diesel 105,000 miles and still going strong 💪
I drive a 1967 Morris Minor.😊
Yeah@ My poor old 02' Chevy S-10 Blzr 4dr wgn! 230Kmi. Just new distrib.& normal maint.keep tranny fluid clean & use auxiliary tranny cooler.
Wow, if only there were people in the motor trade I.e mechanics, that could’ve predicted this and spoke out about it 🤷🏻♂️😂😂😂..
There was no information available when the first EV’s were released. The only information available was what was fed to us by ev manufacturers. That held out the pro is that by the time support was needed it would be there.
Watch scotty kilmer
No one really listens to the down side till things are failing all over.
Just a matter of time for EV leases to end and build up in lots
nah, they wont "build up" in lots... mainly as they have this nifty "self deleting" mode... can activate at any time... leaving an empty barren wasteland, neatly cleared.
Already started talk to FORD
I drive a 30 yr old suv without any electronics. It has never let me down.
All cars have some electronics.especially those only 30 years old.
You start it with a hand crank or some ?
Electronics can be easily manipulated or programmed exactly when to fail. That’s why older cars lasted. My 1974 Cadillac was a carburetor, engine, transmission, drive line, rear end-period! Electronic Nothing! If I was good at body work, I would probably still be driving that car today!
@@Cblla A starter motor does not need any electronics if the car is old enough.
Stop lying dude.
They are getting rid of many Tesla repair technicians. I know one that is highly skilled and was let go a week ago. They told him there is not a market for the car repairs. I guess they are just totalling the vehicles after minor or semi severe damage.
From what I've heard many EVs are getting totaled simply for having scratches on the battery covers. No intrusion into the battery compartment, just surface scratches...
Disposable cars
That's why I will continue to drive my 2005 Toyota Camry. I will definetly buy another Camry at some point down the road.
2004 Camry XLE here.
Good car
Nice
Camry's are very reliable and last the distance
I was thinking about that being my final car but the newer Toyotas you have to be careful nowadays
I own a 2000 KTM electric dirt bike and a 2022 Chevy Bolt. I bought the Bolt because the KTM was the first dirt bike I have ever had that I didn't have to do constant maintenance on. Now it's 4.5 years old and the only parts I have had to buy are those I knocked off of it hitting trees. My Bolt's first "service" is at 150,000 miles! Of course my Bolt is not my only car. I NEVER intend to travel in it, but for an around town commuter car, I think it's the best car out there. It saves me tons of money. My battery is warrantied for 8 years. If I do have to buy a battery (which is unlikely) , that cost compared to maintenance on my ICE cars will be acceptable, but I don't expect that to happen. I was a Honda technician from 1971 until 2009. I'm retired now but have a shop here at home and probably work harder than when I was in dealerships. BTW, I also hold a U.S. patent on a free valve design for ICE energy transfer units. That's got to be the next big step for ICE. Keep an open mind.
So a $45,000 bolt that you can't travel far in.? 45k just to run errands around town? Wow! What is going on in America!?
I have towed a few of those EV bikes out of the desert, when they thought they would just keep going LOL for me i have extra gas easily stored those EV bikes are just dead weight
@@PAIDFOR50I just bought mine for $21995 where are you getting that price from?
$60 grand for a Kia/Hyundai Kona battery, no thanks !
EV's are disposable vehicles.
A very expensive one
'5' hrs charging should say it all !
What!!!!!!????😮😮😮😮😮
Only five hours at slow chargers. My model y home charger charges at night at 45 miles per hour. At a Tesla supercharger charging takes about fifteen minutes.
Always make me laugh when people who know nothing about electric cars post comments. That makes them think they are experts
Wait till you get a bill for the unrepairable bill on a ev arc flashover.
My 2023 Model S catastrophically failed after 5k miles. Rear drive unit failed and caused the whole car to shut down. Who builds a car with 2 separate drive units but can’t make it keep going when one fails? That means you don’t have redundancy and instead have double the chance of being stranded. Horrible engineering and design. Took 3 weeks to fix. Sold it within 1 week of it being fixed. My life and my family’s lives are too valuable to save a few pennies on gasoline.
All Evs are a joke suckers
A catastrophic failure might lock the drive axle so the other drive unit won't help you. I think the tesla drives have had its share of problems but are relatively simple, compact systems. Probably bad manufacturing.
You sound like a smart person~!!
Electronic junk on wheels,even the junk yards don’t want them.
2005 Buick....run forever...
@@greg5011I have a 2005 corolla manual trans. Same thing. 2 quarts to change trannie fluid. Good for another 200k :)
Owner: why is my EV lock?
Company: you didn't pay your monthly bill
I’m almost positive they can send a signal to disable the car for whatever reason.
@@grazz7865 one tractor firm do that now
you want a belt
no chance
buy one from blogs and it wont work
why no chip to tell clutch to work
so there
How much computer use can there possibly be in an EV? A motor and a speed controller was all experimenters needed decades ago.
But the enormous problem I've been asking is where all the chargers are. They're rare from what I've seen, and non existent at lodgings which means you can't travel overnight with an EV.
A third of the U.S. population can't even charge at home because they live in rental property with no hope of installing a charger.
My GF was really pissed at Tesla as she had a problem while charging and could not get a support person to help time was 3:00 PST. Problem was related to a update by Tesla which changed the AMP setting to the original charge rate of 34. I had set to 24 amps. At the 34 amp setting it fried the wires. Fortunatly it did not cause a house fire. I did the repair and she rest the the charge rate to 24 amps. Tesla updates should not touch the charge settings.
I just want a manual transmission, an I-6 diesel, A/C that works and no electric parking brake and no super turbo assist anything.
Nothing wrong with a blower as long as you don't beat the car. But if you need it just to move the car, it's junk. I bought my wife a new Renegade and instead of that pop bottle Turbo 1.3 they all have, (even the Trail Hawk) I drove out 150 miles, and got their "big" naturally aspirated 2.4 with the ZF 9 speed automatic. It's a very well built modern low RPM engine and it takes absolutely no effort for it to run the truck around, which is a surprise considering its size. But my 6 cylinder Pentastar is like that. She's also coupled with a full blown U-Connect system complete with NAV. The pop bottle would have to sound like a jet engine, all the time, to do the same thing. Best move I could've made. And we've had it 5 years now without so much as a check engine light. A really nice little Jeep.
Yes, and you can drive it Forever~!!!!
I don't think anybody is going to take an old car battery and use it in a multi million battery storage solution... The insurance company would not allow that...
Seat on 800 volts battery going 100mph is not a good idea.
No right to repair!!!! On an OEM laptop. Good luck getting an out of warrant EV fixed.
Exactly. This.
Electrical problems in cars have always been among the most expensive. Was there any program for training EV mechanics? All mechanics are in short supply at the moment. Software issues are getting to be major problems for all vehicles.
Insurance companies don't have a long term record on EVs. Once they have a ten year history on the actual cost of EV failure, these cars will become uninsurable, when this finally happens the whole EV market will collapse.
EVERY EV on the market is a scam.
Elon Musk is a CONservative
@@futurefirm No he is not. You clearly do not know what a conservative is.
Elon Musk has described himself as a "moderate" and a "registered independent. He has also expressed libertarian views, believing that the government should rarely impose its will upon the people.
@@JohnSmith-ug5ciI know for a fact, he has agreed to donate 45 millions dollars a month to traitor trump using money he has conned from Tesla owners. That is proof enough for me. He is a CONservative in my book.
@@JohnSmith-ug5ci Nope, he has agreed to donate 45million a month to treasonous trump and has benefitted from that ill-gotten money by conning Tesla owners. That makes him a CONservative in my book.
@@JohnSmith-ug5ciUnless that very same gov't places orders his direction, then public spending is totally okay 🤭
The "stark reality" I've experienced in my BMW I3 is 4¢ per mile fueling cost, around 2.6¢ maintenance and repair. The only action needed in 114,000 miles which could be called a "repair" has been replacement of the VRLA 12 volt battery, it cost $122 at NAPA Auto Parts and I replaced it myself. The record shows the only cheaper way to get there is by bicycle, or walking.
The problem with both sides of this argument is there are always some of the user population that has a different experience with the same product. Your good experience is countered by the next person whose I3 was horrible for them. Same for ICE vehicles, there are people posting here about Camry’s but my experience with a Camry was bad because the engine blew up.
Reality is the blue book reliability data for EV’s isn’t any better then ICE cars, its out there for all of us to look at. The point of this video (i think) is that EVs have not lived up to the hype about being better to repair.
Loved my little i3..... then went to a Model Y... Have been driving electric since 2014 and never had a single maintenance issue.
I'm sticking with old school cars with an engine. With a traditional car, the engine if properly maintained will last you for about 15 to 30 years. And if it's a Japanese car then it's going to last you for a very very long time. However, with a battery operated car, after about 5:00 to 6:00 or 7 years, you need to change out the battery and that is a very costly purchase and procedure. And the people that replace it have to be tech savvy. Because it requires someone with the knowledge of how to do it and not a mechanic
Anything electric is a disposable product! TVs, dishwashers, refrigerators, washers, smartphones, scooters, skateboards, tablets, laptops!😮
And ALL modern cars are highly electronic, not just EVs.
@@humming-birdaerialimaging682I get what you're trying to say...but I also know you know what the original post is saying, and that this isn't a real answer.
Buy a Toyota for the same price cost to own car is payments and insurance. That doesn't change electric or gas cars. Drive a Toyota 400 miles, and take 10 minutes to refill and drive another 400 miles. Gasoline and oil changes are much cheaper and the cost of repairs can be done at thousands of repair shops. Toyota can get 200,000 miles if oil changes and air filters serviced.
Not true. My 2002 Tacoma and 2007 tundra only get its oil changed once a year. No issues.
Newest Toyotas are crap. Toyota got complacent and started mak8ng crap in the early 2000,. I had a 2004 4Runner and it ran fine for the first 30,000 miles, then everything started breaking and malfunctioning one after another. Factory radio/CD player fried, the dashboard fried, the center console info center, blinking in and off. Center diff gasket leaked, rear wheel bearings gone, after $3,600 of out of pocket costs, I got rid of the damned POS. I had purchased the sergice plan to it was in the dealer getting oil and filter changes right on the button. Never Toyota again. I bought a 2017 Ford F250 6.7 diesel years later and it has been very reliable and durable. 116,000 miles on it with just a few minor issues that got fixed right away. Never left me stranded. Hell with Toyota.
Has anyone reqd about thr engine gunking issues? Thousands of Toyotas woth engine gunk and they claim it was from lack of oil changes. Customers with receipts showing all oil changes done at thr dealer! Then came thr frame rusting with people losing e tire front ends when thr frame crumbled into dust and the front axle slammed into thr ground. It cost Toyota $3 BILLION to settle th3 class action lawsuit to repair or replace the frames. This was after Toyota kept denying there was a problem and pushing people away until the frames cracked.
Toyota makes junk now.
If no rust after 20 years it still works.
I'm at 336,000 miles, going strong in my 2011 4x4 RAV 4 four cylinder that still averages just under 25 mpg city/highway. I off road it quite a bit and knocked all of the plastic skid "plates" where an expensive battery would be if it were an electric. Picked them up an tossed them back in the car, no expensive repair needed. BTW it's paid off and good for another 100,000 miles. I like the idea of electric vehicles, my finances do not.
Not so environmentally friendly as we were told!!!
the same system as with the i phones
Electric vehicle owners should only be allowed to charge their cars using Solar and Wind oower otherwise it's just Pretend..🚘✔💯
LOL; thanks!
All of these are good arguments and yet you left out the big four:
Range anxiety as these vehicles don't go very far and the battery degrades a little bit each year so you get less range than advertised.
Weak infrastructure, there aren't enough charging stations, and of the ones that are there half of the units don't work unless you're at a Tesla station.
And thirdly, the rare earth chemicals needed to make the batteries are in short Supply and are very expensive.
People need to wake up and face reality. EVS are a fail. The best solution is a hybrid that can plug in and get about 70 Mi of range on the battery.
Contrary to what climate cultists suppose, there's not enough power in the power grid to supply energy to run Vehicles if a large portion of the population has EVS, and keep in mind that fossil fuels power the power plants!
Ps. As a former Tesla Model 3 owner I will never get another one .
I agree but I'm reading that the Hybrid's are just as troublesome as the EV's=same difference just gives you a second chance when the battery fails then they drive it to perdition on Gas~!!!
My daughters 2015 model S was a complete POS. Dumbed it after 18 months.
Toyota did tell everyone E.V's weren't practical and everyone laughed
But Government said...
YEP, Toyota went with Hydrogen Fuel Cell instead with the Mirai. Guess what, only a few Hydrogen stations in S California and less in N California. I saw only one Mirai (of a friend) so far, but many many Tesla around me every day, count more than 20 in my neighborhood.
Too many bells and whistles. An EV should be dead-nuts reliable compared to a gasoline vehicle. Think about it: no fuel system, no ignition system, no engine cooling system, no exhaust or evap systems, no catalytic converter, no pressurized engine oil system, no transmission -- all provided the vehicle is designed properly, of course. The motor has essentially one moving part, and the solid-state motor drive has zero. Not much to go wrong, really.
But, no...everything has to be grossly over-designed with useless or near-useless features, until it's unreliable and expensive to fix. If the EV industry concentrates on getting a vehicle from point A to point B and back, without the frills, then EVs may become successful in the long run.
I don't get it. The electric motor is very simple and reliable thing which should last around forever. Why it is expensive to repair EV?
I get the batery, but the rest must be same or cheaper.
It’s like the early rechargeable tools, the battery was built in, and when it went out it was cheaper to just replace the tool.
Yeh but it have over 70 individual cells if 1 go wrong good buy car.
They still have a lot more going on than one would think. They still have coolant and brake fluid. And a tone of computer modules on board and sensors. Everything else will break around the motor and cost more than the car is worth. It’s the automotive industry. They don’t make money by selling long lasting vehicles.
Because of all the electronic gadgets and safety equipment. Take the toyota hilux champ truck they sell at 10.000 bucks and still make a profit. The western world painted itself in a corner with ridiculous high safety standards. The only thing you really need are driver and passenger side airbags and seat belts but our governments require all those ridiculous gadgets and electronic assistants that drive up the price and make it near impossible to fix your car.
When they tell you "We cant get the parts" and the cars only 4 years old .@@skileg10
I have a Peugeot 1.6 diesel, 2016 model estate, It does a minimum of 80mpg and 100mpg on a run, fully loaded with 4 adults. Why in the name of insanity would I want to switch to an EV???
$15,000 for a new battery crazy!
It's not a new battery either. Tesla repairs the old ones and that's what you get for the replacement!!!
For a new Tesla battery it's about $20k.
@@covercalls88 Thats for the battery. How much extra to have it fitted.
@@WalterL-gz5zs yep, another cost to be considered. $20k is shocking enough to start
$.05 cost per mile for electricity vs $.25 per mile cost for gas alone. Also, no oil changes, tune ups, stolen catalytic converters. Eight year battery warranty. Many Tesla fleet vehicles 250,000 miles on original battery.
Electric vehicles are a nightmare to maintain, ev manufacturers must take more responsibility in repairing EVs , every town and city must have several repair shops , they also must have as many charging stations as many as gas stations, I shouldn’t drive more than a couple of blocks to find a charging station. For a small amount as little as 100 per month a manufacturer must guarantee the battery for life. If an ev catches on fire the manufacturer must replace that vehicle, in extreme temperatures a battery mustn’t lose more than 1% a week , let’s assume tomorrow 90% of the cars on the road are electric, with number of charging stations unchanged, waiting time in these charging stations would take all day to charge the numbers of cars waiting to charge would be in the hundreds, and the cost to charge would be prohibitive not to mention blackouts in every city and town, this project is forced on us by impulse without adequate planning.
I've had my Model S for a while, charging for free with a solar array and smile when cruising past the gas stations. No issues.
Just you wait
You can't do that in 10 years old Tesla. Owning a 20 years old car is common now.
Park outside.
We have a 2007 Prius and a 2010 Prius. Both have been running great, no major repairs, 50 miles per gallon, nearly 500 mile range on a tankful. Agree with the comments about insufficient capacity for transportation system to handle large percentage of EVs. Not enough charging stations, takes too long to charge, and not enough energy on the grid to get it done even if those 2 problems were solved.
Replying to @markfrank187:
"nearly 500 mile range on a tankful" of WHAT??
1) pizza sauce?
2) shampoo?
3) baby oil?
4) veg oil?
I GET IT NOW!!
GASOLINE!!!!
Switch to petrol or diesel
what if it doesnt exist? what if it never did? how would you solve it?
Another thing - our electrical grid is already stressed , and they want to dump millions of EVs onto the grid in addition to all of the existing everyday power demands?
It won't wok, it just won't.
This is why you need a free market economy. Politicians, ideologues and corporate subsidy grifters have created and legislated this plague upon consumers. They have been paid handsomely by disenfranchised taxpayers. A market economy bankrupts/ends products with much smaller flaws.
The free market has given consumer listeria, and salmonella outbreaks
@@MarceloGarcia9...and it punished the people responsible through lost credibility and discontinued contracts, such a Chipolte abandoning the fellows who gave them salmonella-contaminated food.
More often government-corpoate collusion just causes more of such abuses to get covered up or even subsidized, as in the case of companies putting toxic additives in our food, a fact hardly considered by congressman or reported by corporate news.
With such a track record, I daresay the free-market approach is still superior.
This video reminds me of stories my grandpa told of passing model T's sitting on the side of the road with various problems. He said that he would yell "Get a horse " as he would ride past them on his palomino. I'm always amazed at how humans can't seem to see the big picture or think about the future. I suppose that is why about 75% of people end up at retirment age with little to no savings. The reality is that technology will continue until the end of time and the naysayers of today will be thankful that someone had the brains to try something else before crude oil gets super expensive because it is getting harder and more costly to extract. Could you inagine what life would be like if everyone still had to ride a horse? Thankfully there were visionary people around who started building automobiles and didn't quit at the first setback but rather kept working at it until after about 100 years (1886 to 2000) had created a pretty decent mode of transportation that was gradually improved over that period of time and reached it's zenith around the year 2000. In the meantime we had to put up with what were the earlier inferior sometimes frustrating versions of transportation, that were available along the way.
Are the majority not seeing "the bigger picture," or are you overlooking how for every product that delivers on being "the X of the future," there are a 1000 failures or things that end up existing as a niche beside the main product.
Not to be cruel, but given Bankman-Fried only got convicted a bit over a year ago, EV enthusiasts should probably take a good look at how things worked out for crypto-bros before trying to shame us for ot buying into the "next big thing."
One more thing: a lit of people don't save for retirement because they trust in the promises og the government regarding social security...the same government that's been trying to hamfist this transition to EVs.
Just something to think about.
To keep the EV market going,they need to keep creating new suckers.
Got a 2007 crv with 200,000 miles plus! Still going except for AC blowing hot air. It still takes me from point A to B. I just have to endure the hot summer heat but bearable with a fan for now. I can't complain too much.
Well I'll just keep driving my 14 year old EV, and continue to enjoy all the $ saving it gets me.
Park outside.
60 percent do not read at a normally level. hard to train the uneducated. I turn my own wrench and finding a good mechanic is hard nowadays. I mean the kind with passion for their craft.
i don’t want to deal with daily plugging and unplugging chore.
i bought a new 2014 Cadillac XT4
These exact same arguments were made when the world switched from ice (frozen water) to refrigeration for food storage, we all know the winner of that contest. Markets adapt, the world goes on. I’m not a greenie but I am an engineer who enjoys repairing Tesla model 3s, I own 3 of them which I purchased very inexpensively and repaired myself using parts from my local service center. Great cars, fun and very inexpensive to drive.
I'm reminded of the FYX "don't miss out on the next big thing" commercial for the super bowl. How did that turn out.
I don't know nor care how things work out for EVs in the long term, but for the love of personal finance, stop dismissing reasonable concerns over the latest big thing by pointing to the relative handful of successful inventions over history while ignoring the mountains of duds.
People were laughing at me when these cars first came out I was mentioning the cost and down time for repairs was going to financially take out a the owner..I also said that in the long run the electric car will not make the distance and the weather changes effects the performance of these vehicles...fast forward some of the people that own one are getting rid of them and going back to combustion vehicles
Create the infrastructure and then try to sell the product. The world is nowhere near ready for this. They need to be introduced much more slowly so they can evolve in a way that the problems can be overcome in an ordered and planned way.
Our reptilian overlords don't want the bugs worked out
They want us off the roads and in 15 min cities
Make sure you get short-term leases if you want to drive one.
I will have an EV when gasoline and diesel is banned, not before.
I will use a bicycle when petroleum is baned
1) high cost of repairs 2) shortage of repair techs 3) uncommon materials hard/ impos-sible to repair 4) significant inconveniences at dealerships.
The simpler a vehicle is the more reliable it is .My 97 year old single speed bicycle is testament to this. It let me down once when it had a puncture .It cost 7 shillings and sixpence when it was new, and I recently turned down an offer of £2000 for it. it costs pennys a year to run and in its lifetime has cost the price of a spanner a screwdriver and maybe 3 cans of oil for all the services it has had, EVER.I'm reasonable shure it will last the rest of my life then it will become the property of one of my grand children and last the the rest of their lives as well.
Look at those caustic filthy battery fires. Defeats the whole perpose.
One EV fire required 50000 gallons of water to put out the fire. Several diesel powered water tanker trucks were used to haul the water to the fire scene.
This is a very biased and misleading video. I have been an EV owner for 2 years. Problems - none. Maintenance costs - none. Fuel costs - very low. I recharge twice a week in my garage at home. My energy is from a clean source, hydroelectric. My monthly electricity bills have hardly changed. I went the EV route because gasoline was becoming annoyingly expensive. The battery in my EV has an 8 year warranty. No worries.
I'm so delighted to see the EV fad circling the drain, and I was never buying one of those things, I love my V6 Accord. The video should have also covered the charging issues, and the billions Biden spent on charger stations and only a few were ever built, and then too the copper thieves cutting off the charging cables to sell the copper.
It varies from car to car, Teslas are like one off sports cars, like audis, etc. But the Hyundai ioniq ev uses pretty much every part they can from their hybrid and ice models, and doing that keeps the cost of parts down, and the older nissan leafs are super simple, and easy to work on. The cost of repairs on evs are a compound of issues, everything from auto manufactures making cars in general more difficult to work on, to them making their EVs with all one off custom parts that they cant use on any other model car. As a demonstration, go look at the cost to repair a Tesla door handle compared to any other EV (such as a older hyundai Ioniq). Maybe it sounds like im saying its not as bad as it is, i think rn it isn't, but its just going to get worse unless right to repair gets traction.
I'm an EV owner. Two years ago I damaged my Hyundai Ioniq EV when reversing on a foggy night. It was repaired by a local smash repairer recommended by my insurance company. The car looked as- new after the repair. All good since. So I haven't given up. Why would I?
Light body damage is a relatively easy repair. It's not a "fault". Keep going and enjoy your EV.
Was the reversing camera not working?
Insuring your ev or hybrid is alot worse than you think
One guy in the uk
Got his insurance renewal for is ev
It went from 438 pounds per year to 4010 pounds for the same ev
Thats if he could even get insurance
This after the two car cargo ships caught fire in 5 years , one end up sinking in the north sea and the other was the Fremantle princess which burn down to the water line .....
Most shipping companies in Europe now ban evs and Hybrids from thier cargo ships
What sort of government would actually force these expensive throw away monstrosities on its citizens? If we can't make our own choices, then privately owned vehicles will become a luxury for just a few wealthy people after 2035.
and diesel powered
Politicians won't use them,!be forced onto us plebs 😢.
@@gefleigh4264 If that happens, the economy will collapse. EV mandates are unenforceable and unworkable. But as usual, the politicians failed to do their homework because it was more important for them to virtue signal and appear to be champions of the environment, and to be greener than anyone else on the planet.
wait till we get there
public buyers will rule what happens
force of people by numbers
i remember a guy in the bay area in the 70,s made the news when he took a lawn mower engine and an electric motor with 5 or 6 car alternators one big fan belt and some car batteries in an old car and i think he was getting like 100 miles a gallon from the lawn mower engine keeping batteries charged and drove it for years
I think that the only thing we miss is a EV car repair shop or have in the current repair shops a person, that can deal with a EV problem. Most of the parts are the same for EV/petrol cars, and for the battery, high voltage system and electric motor you need a specialist. So it could be a good business plan to have car repair shop that can handle EVs... All current cars are full of electronic systems, matrix lights, with modern CPUs to hande all the displays and software, etc. If somebody wants an easy and cheap to repair car, he should stay with 10 years old car...
Personally I wouldn’t buy a EV in first place due to all the things mentioned in the video. No thank you. Not worth the money . Yes when the breaks down ect . It gets pricey. . I’ll pass on it.
As an EV owner for more than 6 years and driving more than 70.000 km/year I can tell you that this is definitely not my experience. This video is fear mongering and an exaggeration of the problem. I don't believe that all cars should be EV's, but EV's are definitely here to stay. I wouldn't drive another car for my business trips than an EV.
I think you’re what’s known as an exception, sir.
It’s called the bleeding edge of technology for a reason. Recalling my childhood when my Father took me to the cities impound yard that was filled with wrecked and totaled pre-1960 vehicles. He pointed out the punctured windshields will holes the size of human heads…next the lack of crumple zones and crushed interior compartments splattered with dried blood. Overall, It was a ghastly life changing experience on many levels. I learned to respect the power of technology to be both beneficial and dangerous …
Bottom line. DON'T BUY AN EV!
Glad I bought a lightly used 2022 Camry a couple of months ago. It replaced my 2005 Camry with 220k miles.
Nice. What a reliable car ❤. Congrats for your purchase 😊
Politicians: “We can engineer better electrical motors. If we mass produce the market will force battery technology to advance alongside it”
Law of Thermodynamics: “Hold my beer….”
Quick Battery swap on the go would be nice. It's all about the profit not saving the planet.
You haven't emphasised enough, what this is doing to our vehicle insurances?
The rest of us pay,!,insurance not in it to make a loss.
Yes my insurance keeps going up.
The insurance company is not in business, to go out of business.
So they spread the increase cost around even to non EV owners .
Just one more reason right to repair needs to be a mandatory law, no loopholes. PERIOD.
EV are not the future!
They are the new Pet Rock on wheels
In twenty years of owning an IC car, I only had two problems with the engine or gearbox. Didn't stop me from having other problems and visiting a mechanic once or twice per year.
Electric vehicles: Stupidest idea ever. Congratulations, you now drive a car powered by coal and natural gas. Lithium mines are visible from space...total wasteland. How environmental is this crap? A Honda Civic uses a hundred pounds of gasoline to travel about five hundred miles. A Tesla needs over a half ton of batteries, and can't even get there. Pathetic.
My U.K. bought Model S bought in 2018 has done 83k miles with three sets of tyres and 3 windscreen wipers. No service needed and the Red Beasty does more miles per charge than when I bought it. Best motor I have ever had and I’m 73 Years Old. This video is total rubbish as far as I am concerned and is biased.
Unrepairable = No Maintainence
You can make a mechanic out of an electrician but you cannot make an electrician out of a mechanic.