How does this Arsenal team compare to the Invincibles?
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
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With the Arsenal Invincbles winning the league at Tottenham in 2004, ESPN's Mark Ogden & The Mirror's John Cross discuss how this current Gunners team compare as they head into of the north London derby.
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Always hard to compare different teams from different eras, especially when they play different formations! But the invincibles won things, so this team can’t compare until they start winning things
The Invincibles never lost a game and they had a punch up with Man Utd (which seems to be a lost art nowadays.) Wenger got manager of the season while Henry came 2nd in both World player of the year and the Ballon d'Or behind Nedved and Zidane respectively which meant he was officially the best striker in the world that year - Oh, and they won the league at White Hart Lane and are the only premier league team to get a Golden trophy. The only similarity between 2023/2024 Arsenal and 2003/2004 Arsenal is getting knocked out of every cup.
Last year Arsenal simply didn't the experience to get through pressure down the stretch and Man City did. This year they have made huge strides forward. There are games left to be played and if Arsenal can handle the pressure this time, they have a shot. There is no margin for error.
The current squad is good but still cannot be Compared to that invincible team that won the title in such a remarkable way !
What Wenger did with limited resources and winning 3 league titles and FA Cups ..Not sure how many current managers can do that...if wenger had the amount of money to spend similar to Mourinho or Pep he would won a lot more titles....
There were no Guardiola and his oil club in the Invincibles era. Arsenal would've won EPL last season if Guardiola didn't manage Man City, who've been dominating EPL in the last seven years
But they didn't.
Excuses.
@@peacelove8395 Because Guardiola is the most consistent football manager in modern football history, who've been massively supported by a state-owned consortium with an almost-limitless transfer budget
@@containedhurricane funny that, because when Liverpool fans remind everyone that they lost 2 titles by 1 point on 2 occasions to this same City side, everyone likes to conveniently forget what you just said to instead say Klopp's a failure for delivering 1 Title in 8 years.
Interesting...
Your right there was "no Guardiola or his oil club" back then but there was possibly the greatest manager of all time and a global juggernaut in man united.
Lehman > Raya
Ben White > Lauren
Saliba > Keown
Campbell > Gabriel
Cole > Zinchenko/Tomiyasu/Kiwior
Saka > Pires/Parlour
Vieira > Rice
Gilberto Silva > Jorginho/Partey
Ljunberg/Reyes > Martinelli
Bergkamp > Havertz
Henry > Gabriel Jesus/Trossard/Saka
I mostly agree
Pires > Saka
@@alexdebono4087 nah saka is better considering his age and ceiling
Toure started most games in invincible season not keown tho
Picture in the papers of Wenger and Arteta standing together looks like Paul o’gradys come back to life 😂
1:23; but, but, but, so many butts :)
hahaha thank you for this
@@willattheark 👍
Yeah, but, no but. I didn't do nuffin' or nuffin'.
i love so many butts
He likes big buts and he cannot lie...
The Invincibles had 10/10 consistent players in every position and would play beautiful football or would get the business done in mud and rain. Who can compare with Henry? Berkgamp? Viera? Cole? Pires? Etc. They were 10/10 week in week out. That’s why they never lost a single game.
I think it's too early to compare, the invincibles won leagues and were in champions league finals but they are heading in the right direction they can be better
Football and tactics has evolved quite a bit. Its hard to tell how successful invincibles would be in this era.
Comparing apples and pears? From 20years. What next the Wright Brothers and F35 fighter jet?? Sky is pants
Apples and oranges* is the saying…but I see your point!
Winning is winning.
you see how slow maguire looks to the strikers and wingers of today ?
like that
game has changed massively since those days - every team has extremely fast wingers and strikers - that wasn't the case back then
No comparison, Invincibles were the team to beat back then and were very experienced. If Im comparing player for player in each position then
Lehmann>Raya
White>Lauren
Saliba>Toure
Campbell>Gabriel
Cole>>All of our LBs
Gilberto>Partey/Jorginho
Vieira>>Rice
Bergkamp>>Odegaard
Pires>>Martinelli
Ljungberg=Saka
Henry>>>>Havertz/Jesus
Maybe you can argue Rice and Vieira can both be in the same team, Saka maybe over Ljungberg (honestly I think even our own fans sleep on how im[ortant Freddie was for us)
0:16 what the heck
that they might win something without Viera?
its started already
This season Mikel A already lost his way @ home agst A Villa. The only thing left now is his personal record. How much pts can he earn as runner up. Less or more than last season ?
He didn't play his best 11 agst Aston V. He was greedy to show the world that he was capable of getting to Champs league semi.
It takes experience, squad depth and character to fight on both fronts.
This team is good and getting better ... even has a way better GD than the invincibles had that season with games to go....so Arteta's team is proper....
But the invincibles did win trophies, this team needs trophies..... especially the pl trophy....
M. City won the last three PL titles in a row so that means they were a stronger team and yet you can't compare the invincibles so what about the Arsenal team which still didn't win something!?
They dont
It doesn’t compare, one team won things, one team doesn’t.
They are projecting what they want as predictions.
Because there is no way you have watched Arsenal and Spurs recently, especially in their last PL games and objectively. expect anything more than an Arsenal win
There's no comparison really
The 2007 Arsenal Invincibles won the European Continental Sextuple and went undefeated for about three years. How on earth can you even contemplate this Arsenal side being anywhere near as good as those legends is beyond anyone.
Womens team?
They don’t
0:38. "No one from this team would get in the Invincibles team". Sorry, Rice is better than Gilberto Silva, as good as he way. Saka is better than Freddie. I love Toure but Gabriel or Saliba are better than him. I also think Ben White is better than Lauren. So that is 4 who would get in. Saying, "but they have not achieved what the invincibles achieved". Dude, I was there at the time and whilst they were obviously overall better than the current team, most of the old team were in their late twenties in 04.
Rice is average.. This team has won nothing, the players aren’t better.
Odegard would get in not rice
Rice is wank 😂😂😂 over rated waste of 100 mil
@@Primitive01 there is no way am going to let this slide. Rice is more than average
Gilberto is a world cup winner. Put some respect on his name! Best DM we’ve ever had. Only Saliba, White and MO get into the invisibles team over Toure, Lauren and Freddie at the moment.
NOT AT ALL THE LEAGUE ISNT EVEN OVER WITH WTF LOL
I think its a bit devious to compare a team of today with a team that was so successful decades ago. But the only team that is better than this Arsenal team is still Man City in recent times ...that a more relevant comparison for me.
?? City, Liverpool, Chelsea and United have all won more than Arsenal in recent times..
Not even close cmon
Scenes if Arteta/Arsenal after spending 800M+ (105M Rice) go Trophyless again 😂
Dummy it ain't 800M+...get ya facts right... And yall talk like he ain't literally changed the whole club... Bs
Well they are not invincible..
Neither were the 04 side, they lost in the Champions League, they lost in the FA Cup, they lost in the League Cup and dived for pens against teams like Portsmouth to nick draws in the league.. Far from invincible.
It doesn't
It doesnt.
Let’s be honest City will 100% win against Forest so it’s a must win for Arsenal.
how is this a question ? comparing a group of bottlers to a team of champions .
arsenal became the broken ones the season after the invincibles . one season wonder
2006 UCL finalists, almost won the PL 2008 too. Not a one season wonder at all.
Were they good in the invincible season?
Only lost the league to Moneybags the following year
@@ChanahsCreativeEdits No one remembers 2nd place finishes and being runners up unfortunately
@@HuwEvans. yeah they had a great season
Let’s go and win this Arsenal and actually Arsenal r ahead and have more points than Man City and it is in Arsenal hands still we r top are theses two men ok
This team isn't anywhere near any of those great Wenger sides.
Lehmann Vs Ramsdale/Raya? Lehmann easy
Lauren Vs White? Lauren
Saliba Vs Campbell? Campbell
Gabriel Vs Kolo Toure? Gabriel
Zinchenko Vs Ashley Cole? I'd say Clichy is better than anything Arsenal have now, let alone the best left back in the PL era
Vieira Vs Rice? Pv4
Gilberto Vs Jorginho? Gilberto
Pires Vs Saka? Pires
Bergkamp Vs Odegaard? Bergkamp
Henry Vs Jesus? Henry
Ljungberg Vs martinelli? Freddie
Only 1 of Arsenal's current team starts for the invincibles. Stop overrating teams and managers who haven't done anything
Uninvincible. There, answered the question for you.
What???? This is like that time sky sports kept trying to tell us Liverpool were the greatest team ever assembled in history…. While they finished second every season.
Will they ever shut up about the season they drew everyone 😂
Unbeaten! Cry about it as much as you like, it's funny.
Yeh but no but yeh but no but
Both teams are pretty mid tbf
Comparing a team that has uno trophy to others with multible trophies ? 😂
He ain't comparing trophies he comparing the players.... What they can do on the field... My opinion none of our players baring Saliba gets in..
you have invincibles arsenal against trophyless arsenal???????? they dont compare at all
We can win the league this season 😅😮😢🎉😂❤
If Arsenal wins this title by mistake, Sky sports world not allow us to hear word again.
Noise pollution everywhere.
1-0 to Arsenal
How can you compare this team, with the invincibles they hav not won anything
promotion and relegation system is of no help to the league and is detrimental.When a popular team is relegated, league popularity, revenue, and team salaries all decrease. Of course, star players will leave the team, and the league's broadcasting rights fees will also take a hit in the next broadcast negotiations. Negotiations on broadcasting fees are not going well in France's Ligue 1. What will happen to the broadcast fees if PSG or Lyon Marseille are relegated? Who buys it? If popularity decreases, broadcasting fees will decrease further .And the owner hates relegation. Who are the owners who invest in second division teams in the first place? If the team is relegated from the first division, it's over. Everything decreases, including profits and investments. In addition, even if promoted from the 2nd division to the 1st division, there is a high probability of being relegated again, and even if the team remains in the 1st division, it will be relegated within 5 years at most. It is also unlikely that the club owner will invest in the team. Rather, he will not spend any money. Sheffield and Burnley are relegated anyway. (Of course, if you are demoted, your profits will decrease even further.) You will also be punished for spending money due to strange rules called ffp and psr. (Nottingham, Everton)
Also, the value of the club decreases due to the risk of relegation. In fact, Bournemouth and Newcastle were sold for a small amount of 120 million pounds and 300 million pounds, respectively...
Also, in the first division, even if there is a promotion and relegation system, the same team is always win there.
Then why the relegation system? (Real.Barça.ManCity.PSG.Bayern. Of course, Leverkusen won this time, but Munich won 11 times in a row.) I think Man City will win the league this time too.
In my opinion, it would be better to make the 1st division a closed league consisting of 24 to 26 teams, and just disband the 2nd division and below. And why are the salaries of players and teams not made public? Let’s create a salary disclosure law
Stop spamming this rubbish
What a load of nonsense
@@moluther2826 be careful, he reports comments! Mine has been removed, I said “what a load of rubbish”
The bias against Arsenal is insane. A draw? Arsenal will win the game comfortably
It doesnt, this team is weak mentally and incomparable to that invincibles team.
You two r not good at your jobs r u
Sky losing the plot...invincibles won the league and didn't lose agame...what has this current bunch won..😂😂
3 major trophys in 20 years embarrassing overrated he not even close to bob palisy 9 major trophys in 9 years 20 trophies in 9 years 😂 put klopp wenger together bob paisley still beat their ass 😂
The current City team is better than any Arsenal team in history or any other English team for that matter.. end of..
They dont