EA Madden 21 Dev's Pitiful Response To Low Google User Rating: "2 Is Better Than 1!"
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'Ssense of pride and accomplishment"
"surprise mechanics"
"2 is better then a one"
EA lets out another meme banger!
You've forgot the
"Is this good for the player?"
"Don't like it, don't buy it"
Don't forget the original "EA Sports: Its in the Game"
Theres a song in there somewhere
@@Sunnyboy-ob4xz this makes me so sad
I'm impressed that EA just doesn't outright say "We know we're not trying, just buy it! You know you're going to anyway!" at this point.
Edit: Jeez, thanks for all the likes guys!
Shareholders are listening.
It feels like what Micheal Bay said, paraphrasing, i know its crap but your gonna buy it.
I'm just glad i haven't bought a sports game since NHL 2003
@that guy, over yonder at this point EA is going full negatives on everything, they don't want a single positive thing about themselves, ESPECIALLY honesty
But that's true. People buy this game year after year and complain year after year. Stop supporting EA and watch their business model change. Gamers are clearly stupid
They actually have said this indirectly lol 😂
“2 is better than 1.”
Players: *That can be arranged.*
It’s already been lowered to a 1.4 in google reviews
Is that an Alex Lemtov quote? If yes, awesome lol
@@iburstfox2917 niice
@Sonic That is because gamers can act like a bunch of cows. Sure they moo and stamp their feet but they still keep giving up that delicious milk. User scores don't mean anything. Money does.
Lol the best part is people think this score matters. They already got your money .....year after year whales. You have no one to blame but yourselfs.
Yeah it's bad but apparently Madden 21 already sold 20% more copy in the first week than madden 20, so fans can be mad all they want and downshit on internet, at the end EA win. And to be fair if you buy the same game full price every years for 5+ years you kinda deserve to be called at least a Clown.
The kind of people who say things like "you clearly need to get educated".
I agree 100%
This makes me wonder, what sort of human buys this game year after year and still wants more? I mean seriously, it takes a real masochists to buy madden every year.
@@TheSilentSoprano1 mostly casual players that doesnt care about all this stuff
ima clown
"2 Is Better Than 1!"
Players, Users, & Fans: *"Thought you'd never ask"*
*Gives 1 Rating*
That's exactly what we should do.
Review bomb and only give it a one rating.
considering how the game is it probably deserves a one rating.
@Lucas Walker boycott until they change the name to 1K.
Ghost Warrior 38 if it gets too low on the App Store apple will remove the app
That means he still has a job, game is pushed out in time. EA is still keeping him in payroll but not enough to do anything other than re-package the game with new states and reusing everything.
The guy, "They think EA is some evil empire"
Me, pretty sure its Evil Alliance, hence EA, man you cant even get that right.
Evil Antagonists
@@yungzhe Evil Axis
Your new EMPIRE?
Well i think EA stands for Eat Ass.
EA, Evil Actually
Well, paying 0 dollars is better than paying 60-90$.
This is mathematically true!
And then untold thousands buying card packs and overpriced cosmetics.
"Gamers"
sailling the high seas?
F*ckin tell 'em 😒🖕🏼💸💿❌
EA knows they've got enough core suckers that will pay $60 year after year, and probably $600 more in micro transactions. So they're not worry at all. The only way to get them to listen is to not buy the game at all, but EA knows that won't happen.
Real message is here but everyone is busy celebrating and high fiving each other by posting a review score
It’s so bad and I guarantee there are people who will put up way more than six hundred dollars for this dumpster fire in micro transactions
Exactly if u can sell the product as 50 % of what it could why put the other 50 % in when your making more money than u ever did on previous consoles cuz of micro-transactions
"EA knows they've got enough core suckers thay will pay $60 year after year"
2k:👀
@@aszneehitme8691 and another 60 to 100 on b.s. stuff that u can't earn playing the game
EA gets away with this because idiots still buy the game every year.
For people who keeps buying Madden especially at full price-despite knowing it’s a hack copy and paste job and expect something better from E “It’s In The Game” A- as a proper philosopher once paraphrased, “Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, well I’m just an idiot”.
Yeah honestly I’m so tired of this like how bad does it have to get before people wake up and stop buying it every year. Like i can understand liking the game but to get an actual new game you have to wait at least 3-5 years to notice any differences, and even then a lot of the shit is still recycled...
Deserved is the word I'm looking at but this also affects other game scenes and impoverishes the industry in general.
@@ugoeze7360 "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." Ur welcome.
@@HenryCeption thank you, but i think his was a joke.
“2 is better than 1!”
Mathematicians: Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?
Do they float on water?
Tiff: Well they say that 9 is 2 more 7
Kirito: You know Tiff I can't fualt your math on this one
@b b in theory
Everyone else: "..challenge accepted"
I am Arthur, King of the Britons
Madden has been a stale Cheeto for over a decade it’s depressing
Is there a reason for it not to be their response?
Hey Drew!
Why should I listen to you? You are not the expert.
tony tony sadly no, cause idiots are still buying the game
@@00mike91 exactly
RUclips’s getting worryingly comfortable with double unskippable ads
i'm comfortable with adblock...
adblock has existed so long, the first few years of youtube, before i got a smart phone i didnt even know youtube had adverts!
If you have an android phone, download VANCED. It's free RUclips Premium. Screen off, picture in picture, no adds, the works.
If you have an iPhone though, I can't help you.
Press the i in a circle by the ad time, press stop seeing this ad, select a reason and click ok. This should skip the ads for you 👍. You'll have to do this every time though.
i just report all of them as irrelevant
EA: Games are too expensive to make.
Also EA: Puts out literally the same game every year for 10 years, while periodically removing its features.
True!!
Or slicing and cutting every feature to monetize every last bit of the live service garbage they output every year.
Just watch how EA, Activision and Ubisoft will increase their standard price for next gen games to $70 from $60 for no reason.
In fact, it's actually getting cheaper to make, since they have built up a huge library of tools to develop what's essentially the same game, year after year.
Yeah but they add an entire new pixel though
Google user rating: *2 out of 5*
Madden Dev: “Well, 2 is better than 1”
Google users: “We’re gonna do you one even better.”
The stupidity of Madden dev is truly baffling. He’s basically saying a -D is better than a F, both are not great as scores goes, and -D is basically a F anyways.
@@whitewolf3051 it's not stupidity, it's just a non vulgar way to say " we don't give a sh*t, we already got your money "
@@gippooverground8067 Let's see them keep saying this shit when people grow a brain and stop buying this shit.
@Holy Milk In that case, the dev failed even in that.
@@gippooverground8067 Oh, but it is stupidity. If they were smart, they wouldn't treat their customers like that. Even Bethesda treats their customers better, and that's saying a lot. Not trying to give Bethesda a pass, but the point stands.
And that mindset right there is exactly why they're losing customers and their shareholders are pissed.
Poor Dabi. The League of Villains is going out of business with Villains like EA.
@ I would agree, but they still give EA money and I want EA to go bankrupt.
But they aren’t losing money. Fans have been bitching about Madden and the shady tactics for years, yet still buy the games.
They're not though. Fans buy it every year. Screw them if they don't want to learn. Ea should charge 100$ for it.
@@belisarius6949 I don't necessarily want to see the company go bankrupt as I actually know some artists who work at EA and I'd hate to see regular folks out of work. I would argue that the upper management has just been there too long and exclusivity deals have just made them profitable and lazy when it comes to churning out these franchises.
Stop buying Madden , a 2.0 rating is still too high for a glorified copy and paste.
You're preaching to the choir here. Try stopping the causals who don't give a fuck about this to stop buying these shitty games.
Good luck.
That wont happen, people would still buy it even if its the worst game of all time. Madden streamers also are in fault here, they complain but still buy it every year, and still post gameplay all year round until the next Madden arrives.
“What is your occupation?”
“I’m a Madden developer”
“So what do you do the other 364 days in a year?”
@Star-Lord ET that's the madden game executives, most of the developers probably spend the rest of the days begging for work.
Imagine having to work on madden every single year. You know those devs aren't even football fans, terrible project they have to endure. You can see the lack of passion in everything from a few youtube videos of the game 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Alexandra Oskiera EA hires cheap developers with temporary contracts, while at the same time, the devs use EA to pad their resumé to go work elsewhere after their contract is up, which is why Madden games have gone down in quality every year
@From a DOOM fan each bullet has a unique ahegao face
I fix the screwjob I did the day before. Cycle goes on until the new game comes out. Maybe one day we can get it right before the next game comes out...
This year: "2 is better than a 1!"
Next year: "1 is better than a 0!"
...
Dystopian future: "At least we got scored!"
They’re quite literally only a small step away from “at least people left a review!” Which is hilariously terrifying as a big football guy.
It takes a special kind of talent to make a game this bad. It's like they intentionally fucked it up.
Yeah. They probably are thinking at least people care enough to score it.
Even more dystopian future: You left a review, so that means you bought the game! Thanks for the cash, sucker!
Post Apocalypse: "Remember when we had that NFL licence?. Good times."
Doctor: You have been diagnosed with stage 2 cancer
EA: 2 is better than 1
EA - you are doing it wrong.
I laughed out loud when Yong called Madden players intelligent people who buy these games year after year...Love you dude but dont insult intelligence..
ikr?current day madden players are FAR from inteligent
@@DrawntoRetroTech that doesnt make sense
EA: “Well, 2 is better than 1”
Audience: “Yeah... lets change that.”
Let's fix that with a controlled shock.
It’s 1.3 now xD soon about to be 1.2 cx
The only time I would hear that two is better that one is in a suggested threesome.
LuisIsTheName LITN Just don’t say that to them. Otherwise you will get bitch slapped by both
"2 is better than 1!"
yeah, and EA doesn't deserve better.
"EA can't fulfill ALL of your requests!"
_EA can't even fulfill ONE... they are actually fulfilling negative requests at this point._
Honestly the only request is to release a game that's actually finished
Check out the fiasco of sims star wars... thats literally the equivalent of negative requests
At this point it's on consumers to not buy the fucking game. They need to quit being pussies and stop giving EA money else it's never going to change. I'll actually go out on a limb and say at this point I don't think EA is doing anything wrong because people are literally begging to give them money. All they're doing is taking it. If you were on the other end of the deal, in their shoes, you'd probably say, "Well damn I'd make the game as good as it could possibly be!" Then you'd lose your income, so why even bother doing jack shit?
@@exalented watch them say they listen and they will start releasing updated rosters and seasons, as dlc, instead of games, yeap thats right 60-70 dollars dlc... and people will still buy it
"They're not bugs, they are special features for comic purposes"
😂 “surprise mechanics”
@@bloodbath-and-beyond Dark Horse
@@bloodbath-and-beyond Avatar Press.
😂😂 goat comment!
“They’re not bugs, they are bloopers”
“These are intelligent people who buy the game year after year” then proceeds to almost laugh after that statement . Yeah people should just stop buying the game , maybe then they’ll be forced to actually fix things
"If only people understood how it works" - To quote my Coding teacher "Dont bother going into a big company, Find an indy and make it big. Big companies are going for graphics and upgrades faster than we can teach you. Meaning youre going to experience bugs you cant fix without coming back here" (Here being School)
Edit: To me it feels like the devs are going "Well if the C level and Investors dont care about us why should we care about them? Necessary Casualties on the gamer side because theyre the ones who will make the point not us"
Probably because they have no competition that they think like that
Calling people who buy the same game over and over again "intelligent" isn't something I'd do.
For people who keeps buying Madden especially at full price-despite knowing it’s a hack copy and paste job and expect something better from E “It’s In The Game” A- as a proper philosopher once paraphrased, “Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, well I’m just an idiot”.
@@ugoeze7360 "fool me once shame on you, ...fool me twic.....fool me once cant get fooled again."
Full-time POG but that’s not what my barber said
Ewjiml nba2k21 doesn’t even give you update roster cuz of pademic but it still full price
People love football more than they hate madden and EA. That’s all it comes down to. When madden had competition this was never an issue the game was actually really good. I understand to someone who doesn’t love football can’t understand and it sounds crazy but for some people it’s just really hard to refrain. Especially if $60 isn’t a lot of money to you. We just want a good football game . We love the sport and wanna play with our favorite teams and players.
Yong: "These are people who play these games year after year. They are intelligent people."
Me: press X to doubt
I don't think he realizes the type of people to play these games aren't knowledgable of the market or medium at all. They buy Madden, CoD, and maybe some AAA game like Spiderman, and don't engage with gaming in any other way.
I doubt 1% of Madden players even know what The Witcher 3 is, or if they do know of it then it is because of Netflix.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 even tho cod and spiderman are good games
@Luis Martinez It is a bit difficult to buy a variety of games if you don't have a job. Regardless of that the people buying these games just don't know enough about the medium.
There are plenty of "casual gamers" that understand when something is a rip-off or sh*t because they still pay attention to the medium. They just play Looter Shooter's but know when the games go on sale or what companies are sh*t. The people who play Madden don't even go that far, they buy the shiny game on the shelf without question. They aren't intelligent when it comes to games more often than not.
@@JordanWilliams_Link7702 My point was that they only stick to the mainstream "casual" games and stay away from niche stuff. And CoD has a bit of a bumpy history in terms of quality and reputation, I don't think it is fair to call the yearly CoD releases all "good."
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“Clowns” “2 is better than one”. Wow. That is literally a slap in the face. As if we didn’t feel disrespected enough already. They literally dgaf about us AT ALL. As a professional you can’t say things like that. Wtf?
They slap us the face every year they copy and paste a game for the 5th time in a row
Of course they can say that. Cause people aren't smart enough to realize that you're getting the same fucking game Every Single Year. Calling the people that buy the game clowns is being nice about it. More like brainless sheep that follow the flock while EA is swimming in the money that they know those idiots will spend. I used to play the MLB the show games but after getting the 16 and 17 versions of the game it dawned on me they were the same game. So I haven't played one since then. That thing between people's ears called a brain is supppsed to be more than a decoration you know
EA's User Score Goes Down: "2 is better than 1."
The Division's Goes Up: " I love democracy."
What was so bad about the division?
@@thejman5683 I haven't played it so I'm not sure. I think it was the expansion.
The Warlords of New York was an expansion on the 2nd game but took place in the setting of the first and brought back some criticized elements of the first
Majority of people hated Division 1. A sequel comes out and all of a sudden everyone loves the first game. How quickly people's opinions change. It's not like 1 has suddenly changed or improved much from 2. I found both games to be quite crappy looter shooters.
I barely played 2 but from what I did it was decent. Nothing too groundbreaking but I liked the concept of the game. One of the bigger problems I heard about the 1st game it that the enemies were extreme bullet sponges.
"At least it's not a 1"
Are they asking to be kicked to the curb even harder?
If so, many people are happy to oblige.
I agree.
I think they're more than happy to start kicking the developers in person instead
The score already got that low. Now, imagine if that score got so low that it’s -5.
It's amazing, every game is unnecessarily becoming a live service now except for the one genre that that platform would massively benefit. I've been wanting sports games to chill with the annual releases and maybe just do yearly updates instead, for quite some time. Hopefully this breaks the camel's back.
But then they wouldnt make as much money, you wouldny have to give them 60 quid for the game then shill out for more microtransactions since there doesnt need to be a reset
The funniest thing about it, Konami of all companies are doing exactly that with PES 2021 season update for 30 dollars I believe.
I was hoping PES would shift to a live service model given that they can't compete with FIFA's yearly release. Doesn't seem like it though.
The camels back has been broken isn’t that the point of the video?
👍 love your videos deadwing
you cant be sad for people still buying sports games in 2020.
EA's real response: "Who cares, you fools are going to buy it anyway and beg for more microtransactions."
They're right sadly
EA free since ME3
highkey I know people who got angry that the new 2k basketball games demo didn't have a good ingame shop to spend real life money on
like why and how
Madden fans: Buys their game
EA: Clowns..
They're not wrong. Only I don't think it's fair to say only Madden. Everything EA touches turns to shit!
I stopped buying Madden maybe 8 or so years ago. Sucks not having an NFL game but I understand for those guys. It's a habit. Once you break it one year though you're off, you realize there are so many better games that deserve your time.
By buying this shit every year they kind of proved EA right.
Madden fans : Buys their game
ea : Clowns
Madden fans : Buys their game again
ea : exactly
At least EA is honest with their words!
EA 2018: "It gives players Pride & Accomplishment"
EA 2019: "We call it...Surprise Mechanics"
EA 2020: "Well, 2 is better than 1"
EA 2021: ???
Dont like it dont buy it.
Your not getting anything else so you better enjoy it - ea Devs probably
Hopefully bankruptcy in 2021
"You gon buy it anyway"
2021: *sound of wet farts*
2021: "Better than 0"
2022: "Better than -1"
So on and so forth.
I didn't had this much fun with a game I never bought since Fallout 76
Hahahaha
I lost brain cells reading this shit
It is a blast to get some popcorn and watch these shitshows from the sideline.
I didn’t had this much fun with edit comment since brain cells went from 2 to 1.
EA literally have one guy updating the rosters, kits, changing the color on all of the UI, Changed some sliders to make gameplay feel a little different. Then they slap a label on it and call it a brand new game and make BILLIONS from it.
Then the same people who bought it last year who have accrued a ton of additional content (that should be in the game anyway) with recurrent in-game spending now buy pretty much the same game, wiping out all of their gained content, only to do it all over again and then go on Reddit to tell everyone to stop bad-mouthing EA. How can one thing make me laugh so much and yet be so angry at the same time?
For me that would be this
and E vehicles 😂😠😱
Clint: "2 is better than 1."
Internet: "Fixed it for ya bud."
yet 1.4 is better than 1
Only because you're not allowed to give it a 0 😏
I also want to thank you for taking the time to keep the pressure on EA. even if they don’t care at least we have you! Love from Michigan!
"2 is better than 1"
World war 1 has left the chat.
World War 2 had the better ending; couldn't top that
I thought his response was hella funny
@@youseff500 I mean... The ending kinda bombed
@@vanadis2420 it went the neculer ending
i am a manager, if i were to go to my boss with some "well at least is not 1.0" kind of comment, i'd be verbally bitch slapped to kingdom come.
I don't blame developers getting arrogant, it's because they know the clowns will ALWAYS buy the game year after year even when they know the game will be shit
If the games only get a year to be made, granted im sure 90% of the assets get reused, im sure its still pretty crunchy time wise. I don't necessarily put all of the blame solely on the developers themselves.
That doesnt mean you have to be this lazy. That's not an excuse
@@plasmaoctopus1728 That's why I'm blaming the clowns who go out and buy the game year after year even when they know the game is basically the same. Imagine what would happen if in a year the clowns actually don't go out and buy the game, EA will have no option but to actually sit down and make a better version next time.
@@jondoe1444 common sense doesnt apply to sheep (or clowns) ,I'm afraid!!
@@johntorres532 it is an excuse, why spend money developing the game when you can just shit it out and idiots will still buy it
7:56 no they're not intelligent Yong, hes right. They are clowns for buying this trash year after year.
EA: "Two is better than one!"
Me: "So is making a quality game, but clearly you're too lazy to do that. Not to mention you just provoked a bunch of people to downrate the game by making that statement. So I hope you enjoy the review bombing...or rather in your own terms, surprise review scoring mechanics."
Really sad when a gaming company has been turned into a greedy evil empire!
It doesn't matter. Sheeps will buy the next Madden game anyways lol
Can we get it to 1
hahaha so true
@a b that's the sad part actually
Its real simple to speak to these executives! DONT BUY THE DAMN GAME!
But people still buy the damn game and not only that they spend money on ultimate team
It’s that simple..... F%#* em!!!!!!!
It boggles my mind that despite ALL the backlash throughout the YEARS people still support and buy anything that comes out of EA. The entire company needs a reform.
We live in a society with these same problems. I'm not 1 bit surprised they can do this with a product.
I have not purchased an ea title since... Idk when
We want a decent game if we're going to pay $60.
"These clowns think we can give every single request"
"Well, 2 is better than 1!"
The internet: Let me introduce you to "surprise rating drop".
I prefer "Surprise rating adjustment" but your is ok too
"Surprise rating reassignment" for the "recycled feature-light" game.
Let’s get it to zero
Let's fix that with a controlled shock.
The rating is 1.31 stars currently! XD
People aren't just UNDERSTANDABLY upset. They're JUSTIFIABLY upset. I tapped out of sports games a long time ago for this exact reason. They are cash grabs. There's nothing to them and because the genre is a kinda locked in niche, publishers just turn the heat up over time and there's nowhere for the players to go.
Cancel EA.
Im glad i never got into sports games but thats not to say that other games are doing the same
dan p I haven’t bought in ea game in 6 years but I have lots of friends that buy it every year and they see nothing wrong with them sadly they just want a sports game with updated teams every year
Back before GameStop became a complete joke, I had a cashier tell me some sage advice: Buying a sports game is like buying a new car. You lose value buying it new, and if you don’t mind out of date rosters (More of a moot point now with community rosters) pick the game used for $20-30 down the road.
EA? FIFA, NBA are pretty much the same thing. recycled content. sports games for 60$ is a joke.
NHL hasn't even bothered to integrate the "new" Frostbite engine. I refuse to purchase a new NHL game (2018 is my most recent) until that's done as everything else is just window dressing since it doesn't modify the important thing: gameplay.
"2 Is Better Than 1!"
Gamers: "Challenge Accepted"
At least it’s not 0
‐10??? 🤔😑🙄🙄
The rating is 1.31 stars currently! XD
I still remember when ESPN 2K5 used to allow you to create individual drills and 2 a days. extra stress on different cover schemes. and the thing about the game was that it used to have a mid game and post game rundown. i still get on my ps2 and play it sometimes. nowadays, franchise mode doesn't even have SB celebration any different from MD12. its actually kinda sad. Ive seen 8th graders put more effort into their computer lab flash animations.
Sorry but if you're still buying these EA titles. YOU'RE A CLOWN!!!
Mike N - At least Activision tries to make some noticeable changes. I agree with you tho.
I haven't brought a fifa title since fifa 18. Nothing new, even the presentation is the same
What about EA Origin access?
Madden 21 is actually pretty good! It just people who can’t play football crying
@@mallorca_fan9113 Lol😝
"Well, 2 is better than 1"
Everyone: *brings down the score to 1.4* "We're altering the rating. Pray we don't alter it any further."
"don't change our funny internet score, please we beg you! That'll be 60$, see you next year, suckers."
EA
Clint: Well, 1 is better than 0
Tucsoncoyote 2019 “well 0 is better than -1!”
"2 is better than 1"
Everyone : Pray we don't...
"Bla bla bla we don't care if you bring it down to a 0.1 as long as you clowns keep paying for it."
That’s the kind of attitude all Madden Devs have. That’s why they haven’t made any adjustments or changes in years.
“Well... graphics upgrade is better than no upgrades.”
Yeah right more like upscale than an actual upgrade especially since it a copied and paste game since 2017
I'd hardly call that an upgrade
Yong: They buy the game every year. These are inteligent people.
Me: I don't think inteligent means what you think it means
EA: "2 is better than 1!"
*Literally has 0.3 on Metacritic*
Have you even watched the video?
0.3 is better than 0.1!
That means they have a 3, which is even better than 2!
Björn de Wit did you?
@@jeffreyali1456 yes I have. The developer is referring to the Google ratings, not metacritic.
"2 is better than 1"
Say no more, fam....
Gamers: *review bombs madden 21*
EA: 2 "stars is better than 1!"
Also gamers: "wanna see me do it again?"
gamers: *i'm gonna do what's known as a pro gamer move*
The biggest issue is the fact its not a review bomb if the game actually sucks.
Also Gamers : wanna see me do it again?
ea : did the clowns say something, I was too busy counting all the money they spent
"oh I can do this all day...."
I remember when John Madden was actually a part of this franchises making. He would be rolling in his grave to know what has happened to his game and football in general.
John madden is still alive.
Madden: Eh, 2 is fine.
Other games: You didn't get a 5 star, we're withholding "bonuses."
Because sports fans are suckers.
@@johnrockwell5834 plus thats a big revenue for sony and microsoft.
@@johnrockwell5834 I don't think Madden players are real gamers. They're casual sorts of fans who buy every new title, and micro transaction. But not dedicated gamers, with a sense of judgement. BUT! This one was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.
Sorrowdusk why are you gatekeeping
I get New Vegas flashbacks right here
Every time you spend money, you're casting a vote for the kind of world you want.
Yep capitalism is an economic democracy where the consumers have control over what gets produced people have to remember that when things like this happen
This is why I don't like casuals they are a a threat to the industry as a whole due to their poor decisions and buying into this garbage which would have been stopped long ago if everyone didn't buy into this.
David Mazula Not necessarily.. if a company is still making a profit they’re not going to cater to crybabies.. that’s how it is with EA.. they know who they’re selling to which is kids and adults that have the mind of a child (idiots)In a perfect world, the consumer should have all control
@@mrandersong1 agreed I'm actually in an economics class right now we have more power than we realize it's just morons will always out number smart consumers
I genuinely wish this were true.
EA: *Makes trash games, kills franchises, ignores playerbase.*
EA: Why are we being called the worst company..?
Cause a majority of the fans who bitch about EA and their shady tactics still buy their games.
@@Linklex7 Unfortunately. The Sims team did respond to the backlash over the Star Wars pack by saying they'll do better, they actually listed some things players have been requesting for years (also saying those things aren't coming this year) and that there's a new stuff pack coming later this year. It felt like lip service, but I think most of the community is going to wait and see. Needless to say if the stuff pack is a dlc for the Star Wars pack, the community will probably roast the devs.
@@Linklex7 More specifically, not everyone practices what they preach, which I find odd because it's pretty easy to do with EA.
EA: why are our shareholders are mad at us for?
They dare to kill my beloved Simcity franchaise and instead of listening to the feedback what do they did? Launch a stupid DLC and then closed Maxis and abandoned the game.
And all Maxis wanted was to use A WHOLE REGION as a City Map, Maxis wanted to make the best game possible but EA said "nope you dont"
Since that day EA is dead for me
Picture of Madden Dev team.
Picture of photocopier
Me: "It's the same picture."
Clint: "2 is better than 1!"
The internet: "Is that a challenge, bro?"
"oh no, don't change our imaginary number on the internet, whatever will we do? Thanks for the 60$, we'll see you next year!"
EA
"Challenge everything" oh how ironic
Mission accepted
That's probably why Clint has such a laughable opinion of the score, because on a whim... fans will drop the score from a 2 to a 1... it doesn't have a genuine meaning that anyone anywhere should put stock in. Bots, fake reviews and review bombs make a comment like "2 is better than 1" actually make sense.
Wake me up when we start going after the stockholders that enable EA to do this to us
Going after EA will do nothing as long as people still buy their games.
Not sure who to laugh at...EA or people who buy Madden games. I guess I shouldn't laugh at the one making millions upon millions of dollars.
Definitely laugh at the ones buying it EA are fucking geniuses and i wish i could make even 10% of what they make
Idk why we should choose, both groups are extremely questionable. BUT, what EA does is morally bad, whereas what the customers are doing is just dumb. Bad
Sports game fans are zombies, what a surprise.
@@SpencerfromEarth Is it morally bad though? They are making money, that's their job. This kind of stuff is just what is acceptable in a capitalist market.
scamming is acceptable??
Remember what Jeremy Jahns said,"...they respond to your wallets."
After Star Wars Battlefront in 2015
Mom, I wanna be a game designer.
Goes through four years of university
Gets job at EA.
So son, hows designing a game.
I don’t design games... i make digital market places.
Lol
More like "I make digital casinos for kids."
Calling it a market place implies that you got some valuable goods or services for your money. Casino is giving it more credit than it deserves too because at least in a casino, there is at least a possibility, however small, of leaving it with more money than you came in with.
@@Kevin_2435 so it's more like "I made a lie and a scam" then?
@@NinjaWBS Exactly. I hate what games have turned into. I watched Netflix's new series about gaming and there was a chapter talking with Tripp Hawkins about how he got John Madden's support back in the 80s. EA wanted to make Madden 7v7 instead 11v11 like the NFL because computers weren't powerful enough to simulate 22 players at a time. Madden wouldn't allow his name to be on a 7v7 game so EA worked their asses off to make it work 11v11. EA works harder at scamming people than actually making good games.
The fact that the ONLY positive that dev could’ve thought of at the time essentially amounts to “at least it’s a 2 and not a 1” is completely baffling and hilariously bad. There’s damage control, and then there’s making yourself look like an absolute clown.
I stopped playing Madden years ago. This game has been, and still is, garbage. Anyone paying $60+ a year for this trash are fools.
Even worse is when these games go to the bargain bin as soon as the new one comes out. You simply could be a year behind the new releases and get the games for 1/3 the price.
@@dhgmrz17 The Scarcity exists in that the online component only works against people who play the same version. If all die hard's upgrade around the same time and abandon the older version you pretty much get to play with people who are not die hard.
say that louder to the FIFA fans please!
Not fools, addicts. Gambling addicts, sports card collerctors and kids who don't know any better.
These are the people EA targets and manipulates, has been for years
I agree. Pay for crap and then cry when you receive it smh.
I know most people wont see my comment, but thank you so much for talking about Madden on social media and here. My friends and I are die hard Madden Franchise players, and we're still playing Madden 18 because there has been no reason to upgrade since. Every year we just hope it gets better, but each game has been worse and worse. Seeing so many people actually begin talking about all of this gives EA's failure all the exposure it deserves has been a little gratifying for us. God knows if anything changes, and all the 'promised franchise updates' for Madden 21 look benign and lazy... But thank you for shining a light on this area of gaming a lot of people don't care about, but my friends and I do.
The fact that you and your friends are diehard Madden fans and haven't upgraded just goes to show that you value your money more and that you have brains that you use. There are so many mindless drones that just buy the new Madden every time. It's good to see there are people like you for a change.
Hang in there. Hopefully some indie dev makes a football game that doesn't enfringes on EA's monopoly on the genre. Hope you get the game you guys wish for in the future 🙂
As someone who used to like Pokemon games and games made by Bethesda... I feel you. The only way to vote is with your wallet though sadly there seems to be an overwhelming amount of idiots who don't care even if they spend 60€ or more for half assed games. It's so sad how almost every company that was beloved in the past has taken the path for maximum profit while disregarding their fans and reputation.
It's especially sad with sports games since EA is basically the only company making these games... Along with equally shitty Take Two who makes sure the Basketball fans also get screwed.
Rightfully so, sports games are the bottom of the barrel.
@@yiangaruga4928 *cries in elder scrolls and fallout*
Guys i have a simple solution: Don‘t get fooled everytime and just stop buying these games. It‘s that simple! They mock the gamers? Fine. Mock them with your wallet! JUST DO IT AND STOP BUYING THIS GAMES!!!
Do you even realize what you're asking? sports games target kids and people who don't give a shit. they just want to play fifa.
The people who buy these games never heard of youtube and dont watch these videos
@@WhirlingMusic More like they never heard of just buying last year's game at oftentimes less than 10 bucks used.
@Lucius Fawkes If they weren't always so stupid, then competition would be trivial; make a College Bowl game that you play in your own division, and roster changes are much more dramatic, so the game has a legitimate reason to change every year. Making one game and updating for $20 a year to reflect a four year rotation would probably catch much more interest, so you only really need to make a new game every four years.
I've stopped at the 2005s
EA's attitude is as uncaring as a quote from a recently departed actor :
"Oh, you had a bad month ? Fuck you, pay me. What's that ? You had a little fire ? Fuck you, pay me."
And if the score where rated 1
Clint: 1 is better than zero.
1 is good enough to the average madden player
The game doesn't even deserve one point, seriously.
were*
Zero's still better then negative to~.
Internet: challenge accepted
I feel like when madden hit 1 I bet EA will say “WELL 1 IS BETTER THEN A 0”
and when they hit 0 "well at least we cant go negative"
I can’t wait 🙃 till they get the backlash for charging this game $70 bucks for next gen
Colby Burgesd someone is gonna hack the site to make the score negative if they genuinely say that.
I'm gonna pretend you intentionally write "then" to give the image of how stupid EA is. I have an habbit to correct someone's mistake on the usage of "then" and "than" so I'm sorry if I annoy you.
Fawzan Fawzi its the Internet as long as the intended message is gotten then no harm done with the grammar mistake.
"It's too hard and expensive to make video games nowadays".
Sure EA. Tell that to an indie dev and see how well it goes.
honestly the only good/decent sports game thats going around these days thats not fully scamming players by making it a mtx gambling machine for kids or putting secret ads in them is MLB the show which actually fixes bugs etc
They could literally say "Oh, you found an easter egg! We left the Madden 20 logo in the game on purpose" and people would still eat that up
It's surprise bullshit
“2 is better than 1!”
Playerbase: “so you like kicking butts do yah?”
*WE'LL SHOW YOU, OLD MAN*
I don't even play the game but the sheer audacity of the developer has got me to vote it down.
My favorite Sponge Bob!
“How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man”! Lmao!!!!
This is "pride and accomplishment" all over again.
Well madden 2021 sales are up 20% and hits records, pride and accomplishments Indeed.
@@lsd310 because madden is the only football out
at my EBGames when Madden came out i told the store owner there that i would never purchase that game...it is BASICALLY a full priced game trying to be a mobile game, however because it is a full priced game it makes mobile games look fucking good...it is disgusting a full-priced annual released game with microtransactions that RESET every god damn year...WHY WOULD ANYONE BUY THIS SHIT!!!!!!? and that is the single biggest problem with any sports game that EA has their hands on right now...just stop buying it people, you are getting ripped off, you were before but now with microtransactions you should just keep your money!
EA: "I don't understand why people say we're the bad guys"
Maybe because their revenue says otherwise
"if people actually knew how this actually works." please please enlighten us! Stop feeding us corporate bs, twisting the meaning of words, etc. Tear down the wall and enlighten us how it works.
EA - Oh, it's tech stuff that we cannot disclose to you for NDA purposes.
Take our word for it, while we take your money with it.
They’ll probably blame the nfl & their contract with the nfl for the limitations in the game. Which may or may not be valid. Which is another reason why the monopoly *should* be abolished & probably the same reason it hasn’t
Ty Stover is peak white-knighting. *He* doesn't know how it works, either.
If they knew how it worked then the game would be good, weird how plenty of other people have made thousands of good games over the years. Not that any of that changes the fact that if you don't do a good job of something you shouldn't sell it, failures go in the bin not to the shop floor. Sounds like he should do an easier job if his is to hard, maybe start with a bit of sweeping or something
I would buy this thing since 2003, now it’s starting to make sense to let go.
EA with Madden 21: "We've made the worst sports game ever. GOOD JOB EVERYONE!"
2K games with NBA 2K21: "Challenge ACCEPTED!"
Tbh 2k actually does mycareer stories, even tho some are very very bad, atleast they put effort and have a very in-depth myleague mode, whereas madden has some stupid "you got benched for someone with a heart condition" shit, and a copy and paste franchise from 2013
They got ROBBED of NFL2K thats why. I miss that game
Fifa games: backs off slowly
@@Beastking800 2K, EA... most sports game are recycled garbage. I see zero difference between current year vs. older titles
FIFA 21 🤣🤣
Being a developer, I understand that it is hard to get all bugs out. However, there is no excuse to be releasing the same, buggy code year after year. People who use your software expect bugs to be fixed. Clint's reaction is abysmal and I as a leader developer would have been fired for comments like his and taking the attitude that he has. Shame on EA.
“Well 2 is better than 1”
*Not when it’s a Cancer like you EA....*
Clint: Well 1 is better than 0.
Reviewers: hmmmmm
This has been a perfect storm. We’ve been cooped up inside for months, sports got delayed for months, and season lengths reduced. We’ve had no preseason football, no Hall of Fame game. So Madden 21 is the first NFL football we’re encountering in 7 months. And EA proceeds to give us the glitchiest and most lazily put together game in the history of the franchise.
So the current situation was already going to put a bigger than normal spotlight on the game, and they gave us one ugly pig under that spotlight.
And to add to that, their PR team this time around seems to almost be itching for a fight. And again, our tempers have already been shortened by COVID. So if they want a fight, they’re pissing off people at the wrong time.
"... their PR team this time around seems to almost be itching for a fight."
Are we talking about EA or Digital Homicide?
@@battlion507 Both. lol
@@violentjiggler sales figures for madden 21 have beeb higher than 20s, sure theres a vocal group but why on earth would the NFL or EA drop madden when its still raking in money from braindeads who buy it not expecting to get the same rehashed trash.
*How many times do we have to teach you this lesson OLD MAN?!*
Old man: I love the young people.
Get out of the way!!! Can't you see?
Until we stop giving them corporate welfare and watch as shitty business fail like they should
Let’s tickle them for 24 hours.
The "lesson" never sticks because they couldn't care less if the score is bad when people keep giving them money. They should charge 100$ for it. The tardsqueals would still buy it.
Amen, bro.
Preach the TRUTH YongYea!
If you buy anything EA!! Then you deserve to get what you get!! Every single year it’s the same. Stop buying EA games!! It’s as simple as that.
Thats why he called them clowns
Too bad casuals and shills will boost these games sales exponentially. Good games get overshadowed by soulless cash grabs
Sir SpookyBones imagine unironically calling someone a causal for playing games you don't like
@@englandderogatory9224 but its majority casuals playing sports games. Also I've never said anywhere recently I dont like sports games, just that I dont care about them
Sir SpookyBones hmmm yes they're a casual for playing games that you "don't care for" lmao ok gatekeeper
If people stopped buying this crap then they might do something.
"This has been going on for years!" Means people have kept on buying it regardless. Just stop buying it, that'll get their attention. It's like a dog always going back to an owner that kicks it.
Exactly, it's unbelievable the crap people buy. I guess because most people really aren't aware of what they are buying.
The majority of people buying this game don't even know what a microtransaction is, they just see something they like and that it's $10 and click buy lol casuals are the ones buying these games and they don't care at all how the game is
The people who buy it are the people who don’t really complain. They don’t go to review sites or anything. They just buy the yearly game, pay for the micro transactions or whatever, and that’s it.
Exactly you except this shit year after years and still buy it ? Its your fault not they devs.....why do they keep making skyrim? Because people still buy it....
@@hectorrivera4854 yea casuals are whales lol because they are hardcore playing the game....
Here’s a brainstorm. What if the Madden series took a live service route and released a SINGLE game with a subscription service that is updated with each football season for multiple years? Would that work? No more yearly releases and no more copy paste jobs. Just a single game being consistently updated with new players, patches, and rebalancing for a decade
You do know you’re talking about EA right?
Not enough money for greedy EA
That is exactly how a competently implemented live service works, and sports games were originally seen as the perfect way for that model to work. However, up til now, sports fans just shoved their money at publishers and developers, so why would the EA's of the world implement a fair model that doesn't get them ALLthe money. Hopefully, this is the beginning of change, but tone deaf answers like this, free game giveaways and sponsored Co tent, and patches will likely wash out the noise unless the outrage is sustained.
rockstar tried that and people are not happy that gta 5 is on next gen
yobama barrack rockstar does very minimal upgrades. The Map itself has not changed since it came out except for different type of doors for bunkers, clubhouses, and other businesses. I put 35+ days into that game and realized it just was not worth it.
"I just got kicked in the face!"
EA: "Well, at least you didnt get shot :)"
"Intelligent people understand" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. No.
They still will buy every FIFA and Madden that is released.
because there is no other better games we have to result to shut EA feed us
@@133andy how about stop buying shit tho?
Zero intelligent humans play Madden. Madden is literally used as a label for "non-gamer"
@@133andy Why though?.The games don't change with ecah release.Why even get a new one?
@@133andy Then don't buy the new ones? Lmao just keep playing an old one you already own, it's the same fucking game.
The consumer is at fault here. They keep handing out the same game for $60+ every year and the fools eat it up. Stop the cycle. It's an addiction, go outside and play the game.
Absolutely right!
Not completely at fault. There *are* stories of parents just minding their own business, not realizing that behind their back their child yoinked their credit card, bought a game like this, then dropped $200 on lootboxes. There's a reason gambling is illegal around children; they just don't know the value of money.
RdTrler I mean,that’s sorta the parents fault. A child should know that stealing is illegal and should be taught that from their parent.
@@RdTrler
That's the parents fault.
Let´s go outside in the middle of a global pandemic! What could posibbly go wrong?
"Look at the balls just flying all over the place"
-Yong (2020)
Just another friday
Yo we got the same basic pfp
@@Buntod sweet deal bro
Well, it's friday night....
"If people only knew how things actually work" -SDG
Well that's why they are talking about an evil empire and not about the guy specificlly
Everyone knows how these yearly sports games work - Do the minimum amount of work and try to include seasonal characters and teams and try to do better next year, since the yearly sports title buyers are the least demanding customers there are.
That's seriously the reason why they test all the worst things in these sports titles and than wonder why normal players don't like that stuff. Microtransactions, loot boxes, overpriced skins, time savers, cut dlc content and origins "we can simply search your pc and sell whatever we find on it to whoever we want to" all started with those types of games...
It's a sad day when a dev openly admits they're perfectly fine with a broken, glitchy product.
@Pure Or he could've just not say anything. And just because what he said was on Twitter doesn't suddenly mean everyone who didn't like his statement is a "twitter troll". It was highly unprofessional and the game is well documented for being a buggy, glitchy, broken mess with less features than the previous iterations. This was no time to joke about having low player review scores. Don't defend this behavior. Devs/publishers like him get away with shoddy products because of this mentality and I'm glad at least some of their playerbase is FINALLY standing up to them.
This comment aged very well. (Cyberpunk im looking at you)
@@dedcellmmbr6988 Actually the devs themselves are constantly at work with fixing Cyberpunk. Quite a few openly said they know of the problems and are rectifying them. They've also promised adding certain missing features. So the devs themselves are fine in my book. It's the higher-ups at CDPR that messed everything up by forcing the game out before the devs were finished.
@Pure I've said stupid things before, but I'm not the face of a gigantic corporation. Nor do I have hundreds of thousands of followers listening to me. Nor do I have people legitimately angry at me for giving them a broken, glitchy product. And nowhere did I even hint that the world is falling apart. Exaggerating someone's answer to your opinion is the first clue of your opinion being shit. But hey, If you want to keep sucking them off, go for it. Enjoy your shitty, overly monetized sports game that takes away more innovations than it adds.
@@soulechelon2643 lmao still broken. Cyberpunk purposely hid their reviews on consoles and they’re still fine in your book? CDPR fanboys sure like making excuses. You ate that CDPR BS about leaving greed to others, hook, line, and sinker. They’re just like every other company.