Purchased a detour thanks to your comprehensive review but it's good to see more options. The beam definitely looks much more defined and like how they plan for it to be kept for the long time vs obsolescence.
Glad the review could help. The Detour vs Lupine SL Mono is an interesting comparison. The Lupine SL has the nice sharp beam cutoff and a replaceable battery but it's expensive. I think the Outbound Lighting Detour is a great affordable variation of an StVZO light.
@@TheSweetCyclists Essentially if in the US, Detour is more cost effective but if in EU, you have to pay more due to import taxes (Per mtb forum). Our EU peeps likely have more options since it's a a bit more strict depending lol
Thanks so much for this review. As others mentioned, I think in the USA the Outbound Detour makes more sense. I also like the bit of extra side/width visibility. Looks like Lezyne recently released an StVZO set of lights to the US as well, was considering the SUPER StVZO 600+ but a german review showed their light spread quality and drop-off in brightness to not be great. Hope you'll get a chance to review & compare.
Thanks for all your great work! It's interesting that some of these expensive lights designed for street use pay no attention to the incorporation of simple side lights. Is this because the side lights must also comply to StVZO?
Yes, the StVZO requirements are pretty restrictive regarding side lights. If you're not in a country that requires StVZO, lights like the Outbound Lighting Detour / Trek Commuter Pro RT are a good compromise - you get a proper beam cutoff + side lights + flash modes.
I'm currently in the market to buy a better light for my bike that isn't thrown into the trash after 1 year, do you think the SL Mono is a good purchase if I want to use it on 2 bikes
Yes, the Lupine lights are made to a much higher standard than typical plastic lights. It's an all metal design with replaceable components so you should be able to use their lights for many years.
Hello, if somenone can help me with a doubt. What exactley is StVZO. I read in Wikipedia it's a regulation? I imagine it's implemented so you don't blind cars with your light? Would't this defeat one of the purposes of having flashing lights at night? From what I've seen in other videos StVZO lights only point downward the road. Also not useful in trails were you want to illuminate as much as possible. Is this what StVZO is? Or am I missing something? Thanks!
You are partially correct. StVZO are a set of regulations to reduce glare from bike lights and it actually does ban flashing front lights. StVZO lights feature a sharp beam cutoff which means instead of angling your light downward (like you would with a standard light to reduce glare) you can keep it nearly parallel and see further down the road. See - magicshine.com/blogs/buying-guide/what-you-should-know-about-stvzo-bike-lights
Hey could you review some dynamo lights please? Would love to see something like that here. Especially rear lighting; there is not much of that around it would seem.
The closest thing to a Dynamo light we've reviewed are the Reelight lights. Those use a magnet on the rim. It's hard to beat a battery powered light in terms of output though, it seems like Dynamo lights are better as secondary or commuter lights.
How does this compare to the Magicshine EVO 1700 in terms of maximum light output and beam shape? Ignoring the marketed lumen output value, which one illuminates the furthest in a low beam setting in practice?
Great question. I don't have both lights on hand to make a direct comparison under the same conditions, but I think the EVO 1700 has a wider and further beam (especially in high-beam mode). The Lupine is more compact and feels much more premium as you would expect for the price though. Lupine's lens is also a bit more uniform - I just wish the beam was a bit wider near the front of the bike.
I'm not seeing a fork specific mount, but if you use Lupine's GoPro adapter you should be able to use that in conjunction with 3rd party mounts. GoPro mounts are available in almost any form, so I'm sure there is some combination that could work for you.
Purchased a detour thanks to your comprehensive review but it's good to see more options. The beam definitely looks much more defined and like how they plan for it to be kept for the long time vs obsolescence.
Glad the review could help. The Detour vs Lupine SL Mono is an interesting comparison. The Lupine SL has the nice sharp beam cutoff and a replaceable battery but it's expensive. I think the Outbound Lighting Detour is a great affordable variation of an StVZO light.
@@TheSweetCyclists Essentially if in the US, Detour is more cost effective but if in EU, you have to pay more due to import taxes (Per mtb forum). Our EU peeps likely have more options since it's a a bit more strict depending lol
Thanks so much for this review.
As others mentioned, I think in the USA the Outbound Detour makes more sense. I also like the bit of extra side/width visibility.
Looks like Lezyne recently released an StVZO set of lights to the US as well, was considering the SUPER StVZO 600+ but a german review showed their light spread quality and drop-off in brightness to not be great. Hope you'll get a chance to review & compare.
another great review good job !!
Thanks for all your great work! It's interesting that some of these expensive lights designed for street use pay no attention to the incorporation of simple side lights. Is this because the side lights must also comply to StVZO?
Yes, the StVZO requirements are pretty restrictive regarding side lights. If you're not in a country that requires StVZO, lights like the Outbound Lighting Detour / Trek Commuter Pro RT are a good compromise - you get a proper beam cutoff + side lights + flash modes.
I'm currently in the market to buy a better light for my bike that isn't thrown into the trash after 1 year, do you think the SL Mono is a good purchase if I want to use it on 2 bikes
Yes, the Lupine lights are made to a much higher standard than typical plastic lights. It's an all metal design with replaceable components so you should be able to use their lights for many years.
Hello, if somenone can help me with a doubt. What exactley is StVZO. I read in Wikipedia it's a regulation?
I imagine it's implemented so you don't blind cars with your light? Would't this defeat one of the purposes of having flashing lights at night? From what I've seen in other videos StVZO lights only point downward the road. Also not useful in trails were you want to illuminate as much as possible.
Is this what StVZO is? Or am I missing something?
Thanks!
You are partially correct. StVZO are a set of regulations to reduce glare from bike lights and it actually does ban flashing front lights. StVZO lights feature a sharp beam cutoff which means instead of angling your light downward (like you would with a standard light to reduce glare) you can keep it nearly parallel and see further down the road. See - magicshine.com/blogs/buying-guide/what-you-should-know-about-stvzo-bike-lights
Hey could you review some dynamo lights please? Would love to see something like that here. Especially rear lighting; there is not much of that around it would seem.
The closest thing to a Dynamo light we've reviewed are the Reelight lights. Those use a magnet on the rim. It's hard to beat a battery powered light in terms of output though, it seems like Dynamo lights are better as secondary or commuter lights.
How does this compare to the Magicshine EVO 1700 in terms of maximum light output and beam shape? Ignoring the marketed lumen output value, which one illuminates the furthest in a low beam setting in practice?
Great question. I don't have both lights on hand to make a direct comparison under the same conditions, but I think the EVO 1700 has a wider and further beam (especially in high-beam mode). The Lupine is more compact and feels much more premium as you would expect for the price though. Lupine's lens is also a bit more uniform - I just wish the beam was a bit wider near the front of the bike.
Expensive. But the best.
Classic 👍👌
Do you know if Lupine (or a 3rd party) makes a fork crown mount for the SL Mono? So that it could be mounted below a handlebar bag?
I'm not seeing a fork specific mount, but if you use Lupine's GoPro adapter you should be able to use that in conjunction with 3rd party mounts. GoPro mounts are available in almost any form, so I'm sure there is some combination that could work for you.