And for those guys who don’t want to tune and still want decent gains apparently just switch to e85 on stock tune. Stock 87: 341rwhp 360TQ Tuned 87: 363rwhp 381TQ Stock e85: 367rwhp 387TQ
I called to get a tune for my 2018 F150 spoke with a rep gave them the spec/mods I had said it would be next week till they would be able to convert it over to SCT tuner and to call back (price given at this time was 250 dollars). I called back a week later spoke with the same rep and ask about the tune and he said it was not ready and then asked again what year and what was done to my truck. I gave him the same information again and then said it was going to be 499 dollars. I asked why it's more money and he said it was due to the E85 tune and the first quote was without E85. I said that's a huge difference and then he quoted me again at a lower price 399. PLEASE PROVIDE THE CORRECT PRICE THE FIRST TIME!
Pretty impressive gains on stock F150! I know the first thing I'm going to do now after purchasing a new F150 in a few months. I might do Borla or Roush exhaust before the E85 tune though.
@craigjacobson158 Ended up going AWE 3" exhaust paired with their 3" resonated mid-pipe. Sounds amazing, and the quality & fitment is top notch. Highly recommend it!
Hi Mat I have 5.0L F150 2016 and here in France we have plenty of E85 (and BTW it is half the price of 93) Any chance that you have the same real flex fuel tune but for 2016?
So a flex fuel tune is 1 tune that covers all octanes? I have a 2013 f150 5.0 that I'd like to get just one tune that covers all octanes. Is that possible?
Thanks for the video. These are good numbers but nothing that screams "buy me now", not to mention simply using e85 is expected to give a decent bump in performance over 87 anyways. I'm interested in a Tuner but the market seems to mostly want more horsepower and that's just silly to me. The F150 5.0 is built and tuned differently compared to the Stang for obvious reasons. Have you guys experimented with a tune that prioritizes torque gains? I already swapped out the pathetic stock gears for 4.56 but kept stock tires and would love a tuner that gives a substantial increase in torque even if it meant sacrificing horses. Towing uphill is where I want to shine.
Thanks for replying. Shoot us an email at sales@vmppeformance.com with what you're looking for in a tune and one of our tuners can talk with you about tailoring a custom tune to suit your preferences.
@@VMPPerformanceTV is it possible to get all 3 tunes with an ngage? I run e85 when I'm around town but towing I usually try to run 93 when towing but I've run into a few instances where I couldn't get 93 when I was out of town pulling my camper
Ok this is probably a stupid question and I'm totally prepared for the anialation I'm going to get in the comment section!! (Bring it! Lol!) But,will this tune void my factory warranty?
Damn the coyote in the mustang makes 80 hp more on e85 (and a cold air intake) , that’s a huge difference considering it’s the same engine, feel free to school me on why that is
The biggest HP difference is in the intake manifold. The 18+ Mustangs have a different intake manifold than the trucks do and also the driveline on the F-150's has different components that make a difference in wheel horsepower.
slowninja14 if you have 91 that probably means you’re from comifornia so the tunes illegal for you anyway. This is for people that live in America that have freedoms.
@@100k_Journey24 not from Commifornia! Missouri here, but, I drive all over the country, and it's not just Commifornia that you can only get 91 as the highest. Around here we only have a handful of stations that sell 93. A lot of places along the interstates from here to the east coast only sell as high as 91.
@osp80 did you even read my second comment? We can get it here in Mo, but, I travel a lot and huge chunks of the country don't sell higher than 91 along the interstates.
@@VMPPerformanceTV that's the answer I was looking for. The start stop gets really annoying sometimes. Can it be reversed so its default is off and you push the button to turn it on?
How much power would a 18/19 Mustang 5.0 intake manifold buy this thing? I'm guessing with headers, CAI, Mustang intake, and E85, that 440 wouldn't be too much of a reach?
@@jeffersonhenn1086 The headers are a sure thing for me in the future, I'm kind of torn on the Mustang intake, and aftermarket CAI because I know VMP will have a blower kit for these 18/19's sometime in the hopefully near future. Does yours rev out quite a bit higher with the mustang intake?
@@MrLightning54 It gives me another 1000, or so, but if I was you, i wouldn't do it.... I'm installing a Procharger on mine, so it should work for my application..
I feel your pain i have an 18 and at 3975 miles i had to have the 5.0 motor replaced due to oil consumption. Truck only had a borla exhaust and intake no tune and was burning oil like crazy and making very unhealthy noises during idle. I had high hopes for the new gen 3 but now im not so sure.
They still have to replace the engine even if you tune it. The tsb states that it is a problem for these engines and that no prior approval or cost cap needs to be performed
Autostop eliminator will help with oil problems. Ford stated the oil consumption was mostly due to the autostop feature. Something about residual oil being burned. Mine is a 2019 5.0l. Diabled the autostop, and have no oil issues.
You'll see a little less power/torque since the Gen 2 Coyote F150 isn't dual injection (port & direct) like the Gen 3 Coyote F150. I believe engine compression is lower on Gen 2 Coyote F150s too.
@@VMPPerformanceTV could you tell me what kind gain on the E85 tune I can expect? I was told last week that it was primarily a 93 octane tune and I asked them what I could expect from the E85 and they had no clue. Thank you
Also, did you test that E85 TO see how potent it is. Most E85 out here in Phoenix AZ does not measure up. It's weaker than normal E-85. There are local forums and websites that post who has the best E85. Does anyone know how it loses its potency? Is it being manufactured this way cause like most GREEDY FUGGING CORPORATIONS, they are trying to maximize their profits by not giving us TRUE E-85. Also since they learned that the performance community started buying E85 instead of expensive fuels like VP and 114 octane TRICK, which i used to run in all my 2 stroke engines, the price of E85 is the same as gasoline. It used to be AT LEAST $1 CHEAPER PER GALLON before. Not only are they charging more, they are giving us a Sub-Standard product. Fugging ICEHOLES!!!
The 93 allowed us to go to an average of 26 degrees of timing. The E85 let us go to 27-28 at which point, the truck was at MBT and didn't want any more. It responded better down low, as you can see by the chart.
Absolutely no reason we dont have atleast 100 octane fuel mandated in the usa. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that the higher compression engines of today are making more power,and mileage as well as cleaner burning. You would think these so called enviromentalists would or should demand higher octane fuel be mandated!!!! Imagine if they would make the octane needed what the auto companies could do with even higher compression?
TheGto389 It's not the environmentalists that don't want E85 it's the oil compiles. If all cars ran on that much ethanol it would cut back on oil profits. All new cars could be made to run on E85. The mpg's aren't that good on it and that's all people and regulators look at.
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And for those guys who don’t want to tune and still want decent gains apparently just switch to e85 on stock tune.
Stock 87: 341rwhp 360TQ
Tuned 87: 363rwhp 381TQ
Stock e85: 367rwhp 387TQ
I am so excited! I have a CAI, cat back exhaust and cant wait to add this tune!
Just curious as how this tune compares to the OZ "Omega" Tune.... it also runs with all octanes as well.
Now do longtubes, 3.73's, CAI and a Ford Racing Intake Manifold if you thinks its even worth doing as far as $$$ vs gains from it!
I called to get a tune for my 2018 F150 spoke with a rep gave them the spec/mods I had said it would be next week till they would be able to convert it over to SCT tuner and to call back (price given at this time was 250 dollars). I called back a week later spoke with the same rep and ask about the tune and he said it was not ready and then asked again what year and what was done to my truck. I gave him the same information again and then said it was going to be 499 dollars. I asked why it's more money and he said it was due to the E85 tune and the first quote was without E85. I said that's a huge difference and then he quoted me again at a lower price 399. PLEASE PROVIDE THE CORRECT PRICE THE FIRST TIME!
The fact that they didn't reply to this message speaks volumes.
Woooow.
Go with oz tuning
z Trapo I second the oz tune. Vmp makes great super chargers but oz is one hell of a tuner
@@brycea0225 That's what I ended up going with and I'm really happy with the gains and price.
Pretty impressive gains on stock F150! I know the first thing I'm going to do now after purchasing a new F150 in a few months. I might do Borla or Roush exhaust before the E85 tune though.
How did it go did you get the f150?
do the Borla ATAK....Mine sounds amazing
@@sergiodurango8022 Ended up getting a 2020 F150 5.0L V8 with 13k miles
@craigjacobson158 Ended up going AWE 3" exhaust paired with their 3" resonated mid-pipe. Sounds amazing, and the quality & fitment is top notch. Highly recommend it!
Would love to see the same test done on a 2015-2017 F150 5.0.
We will see what we can do.
Ill drive my '15 5.0 F150 down from Ohio if you need a donor truck!
Ge2 f150 coyote we wana see it !
@@VMPPerformanceTV - what kind of gains can we expect from a 2014 5.0 6 speed?
So what does truck run stock in 1/4 mile and after the tune ?
Cool video! Can you guys do the same for '15- '17 mustang GT?
Wow thats just tune and e85 imagine cai headers full exhaust gt manifold coyote be over 400rwhp N/A impressive
Hi Mat
I have 5.0L F150 2016 and here in France we have plenty of E85 (and BTW it is half the price of 93)
Any chance that you have the same real flex fuel tune but for 2016?
Which you guys did stock fuel runs on all fuels and see the difference
Great job guys! Can't wait for you to get us a supercharger for our trucks!
So a flex fuel tune is 1 tune that covers all octanes? I have a 2013 f150 5.0 that I'd like to get just one tune that covers all octanes. Is that possible?
intake cams, intake manifold, and a tune with crazy high shift points is all you need for the older 5.0s ive got a 13 scsb 5.0 too
that's just insane!!!! awesome stuff thanks for sharing
Those are insane gains for a NA V8.
Nice.
Should see what one gets the best fuel economy to.😁😁😁👍
5.slow? That's crazy talk Matt. It's refered to as LSlow.
Only slow without a tune. These cars respond so well to octane. I wish we had 93 here!!!
Thanks for the video. These are good numbers but nothing that screams "buy me now", not to mention simply using e85 is expected to give a decent bump in performance over 87 anyways. I'm interested in a Tuner but the market seems to mostly want more horsepower and that's just silly to me. The F150 5.0 is built and tuned differently compared to the Stang for obvious reasons. Have you guys experimented with a tune that prioritizes torque gains? I already swapped out the pathetic stock gears for 4.56 but kept stock tires and would love a tuner that gives a substantial increase in torque even if it meant sacrificing horses. Towing uphill is where I want to shine.
Thanks for replying. Shoot us an email at sales@vmppeformance.com with what you're looking for in a tune and one of our tuners can talk with you about tailoring a custom tune to suit your preferences.
4.56s on stock tires must make for a lot of shifting? What was your driver behind that?
High compression engines need more octane
Are yall doing this on dyno tunes only or can this be done through a ngage tuner with a mail order tune from yall ?
Great question! This is a remote tune (mail order) and can be done on a SCT or HP Tuners ngauge device.
@@VMPPerformanceTV is it possible to get all 3 tunes with an ngage? I run e85 when I'm around town but towing I usually try to run 93 when towing but I've run into a few instances where I couldn't get 93 when I was out of town pulling my camper
AWESOME numbers
5.0 needs a supercharger period.
Ok this is probably a stupid question and I'm totally prepared for the anialation I'm going to get in the comment section!! (Bring it! Lol!) But,will this tune void my factory warranty?
Yes
What rearend gears does that truck have?
Does this mean you guys are ready to tune my 18’ f150 that I’ve been asking about forever?!
Contact our support team, with your list of modifications!
VMPPerformance Thank you
Damn the coyote in the mustang makes 80 hp more on e85 (and a cold air intake) , that’s a huge difference considering it’s the same engine, feel free to school me on why that is
The biggest HP difference is in the intake manifold. The 18+ Mustangs have a different intake manifold than the trucks do and also the driveline on the F-150's has different components that make a difference in wheel horsepower.
Mustangs sport different cams than the truck version.
on the truck they shoot for more torque for towing and hauling
What about a 91 octane tune? Not everywhere has 93, and don't want to run 87.
slowninja14 if you have 91 that probably means you’re from comifornia so the tunes illegal for you anyway. This is for people that live in America that have freedoms.
@@100k_Journey24 not from Commifornia! Missouri here, but, I drive all over the country, and it's not just Commifornia that you can only get 91 as the highest. Around here we only have a handful of stations that sell 93. A lot of places along the interstates from here to the east coast only sell as high as 91.
@osp80 did you even read my second comment? We can get it here in Mo, but, I travel a lot and huge chunks of the country don't sell higher than 91 along the interstates.
Is it possible to permanently disable the engine auto stop through the tune on an F-150?
Yes.
@@VMPPerformanceTV that's the answer I was looking for. The start stop gets really annoying sometimes. Can it be reversed so its default is off and you push the button to turn it on?
What rear gear ratio? I have a 2019 stx 5.0 same truck as this one!
How much power would a 18/19 Mustang 5.0 intake manifold buy this thing? I'm guessing with headers, CAI, Mustang intake, and E85, that 440 wouldn't be too much of a reach?
To Jeff Skaarland,
On my 18, with all the mods you mentioned, I'm making 420hp 440tq
That is on PBD tune on their dyno....
@@jeffersonhenn1086 The headers are a sure thing for me in the future, I'm kind of torn on the Mustang intake, and aftermarket CAI because I know VMP will have a blower kit for these 18/19's sometime in the hopefully near future. Does yours rev out quite a bit higher with the mustang intake?
@@MrLightning54
It gives me another 1000, or so, but if I was you, i wouldn't do it....
I'm installing a Procharger on mine, so it should work for my application..
@@jeffersonhenn1086 did it kill quite a bit of low rpm tq or something?
But wait! There's more! (using our best Billy Mays voice)
We will be doing some intake testing on this truck in the near future!
What about 3.5 EcoBoost must do crazy numbers
Question. Is this with stock motor or minor bolt on
Best tune the one on 93 😩
340 and 360 eh. You think it might be under rated?
No, that is just the difference between crank horsepower and wheel horsepower
Your crazy
My 18 F150 5.0 is eating oil. .. glad I still have a warranty
I feel your pain i have an 18 and at 3975 miles i had to have the 5.0 motor replaced due to oil consumption. Truck only had a borla exhaust and intake no tune and was burning oil like crazy and making very unhealthy noises during idle. I had high hopes for the new gen 3 but now im not so sure.
They still have to replace the engine even if you tune it. The tsb states that it is a problem for these engines and that no prior approval or cost cap needs to be performed
This is why ford is working on a new V8 4.8 to replace the 5.0
Autostop eliminator will help with oil problems. Ford stated the oil consumption was mostly due to the autostop feature. Something about residual oil being burned. Mine is a 2019 5.0l. Diabled the autostop, and have no oil issues.
@@davea4037 Ford replaced my engine with a late 2019 engine, no oil burning and nice and quiet
This is stock just with tune ?
Are there any plans for supercharging these gen 3 coyote f150s?
Absolutely, our 18+ F150 and Mustang supercharger will come out at the same time.
The 93 tune would be the way to go.
If you dont have e-85 in your area then yes. Otherwise e-85 is cheaper and makes more power.
Would like to see a video like this for the 18 up Mustang GT.
Are gains for the 15-17 coyote also expected around the same?
No.
You'll see a little less power/torque since the Gen 2 Coyote F150 isn't dual injection (port & direct) like the Gen 3 Coyote F150. I believe engine compression is lower on Gen 2 Coyote F150s too.
Why does ford say the 2018 f150 5.0 make 395hp? Why would they give false advertisement like that?
Ford rates the HP at the crank not the wheel like we can measure on the dyno
🤦♂️
More HP than a HP Dyno tuned 2020 GMC 6.2 10spd Denali
Where's this shop located at?
We are located in New Smyrna Beach Florida!
Do y'all offer the E85 for a 2014 f150 5.0??
Contact our support team at sales@vmpperformance.com with a list of modifications to your vehicle.
@@VMPPerformanceTV could you tell me what kind gain on the E85 tune I can expect? I was told last week that it was primarily a 93 octane tune and I asked them what I could expect from the E85 and they had no clue. Thank you
First. Awesome video
Also, did you test that E85 TO see how potent it is. Most E85 out here in Phoenix AZ does not measure up. It's weaker than normal E-85. There are local forums and websites that post who has the best E85. Does anyone know how it loses its potency? Is it being manufactured this way cause like most GREEDY FUGGING CORPORATIONS, they are trying to maximize their profits by not giving us TRUE E-85. Also since they learned that the performance community started buying E85 instead of expensive fuels like VP and 114 octane TRICK, which i used to run in all my 2 stroke engines, the price of E85 is the same as gasoline. It used to be AT LEAST $1 CHEAPER PER GALLON before. Not only are they charging more, they are giving us a Sub-Standard product. Fugging ICEHOLES!!!
These trucks aren’t slow even stock.
Palm Beach Dyno made 429 wheel on e85
You really believe they picked up 100 rwhp with just E85 and a tune? That would be like 500 crank hp...
how much torque at the crank????
Those seem like pretty generous numbers to me... Almost 50hp going from 87 to 93?
And then only 4hp or so, going to E85?
Seems backwards.....
I figured the gains from 93 to E85, would be greater than the gains going from 87, to 93 too.
The 93 allowed us to go to an average of 26 degrees of timing. The E85 let us go to 27-28 at which point, the truck was at MBT and didn't want any more. It responded better down low, as you can see by the chart.
Man I wish we had E85...
right down the street from me 😏😏
Same. We have 2 locations in this state last I checked. F****** bureaucrats.
Yeah I hate that E85 isn't everywhere. Only have E54 in Arizona, which is only slightly better than 93 octane gasoline (only 91 oct in AZ).
Yeah the preformance is better but the gas milage drops big time and is terrible
So buy a stock limited 3.5 ecoboost?
So do 93 octane and tune and still get 22 to 23 mpg hwy.😁👍
Vs E85 16 mpg hwy.😁👎
where im at the e85 is a little over a dollsr cheaper than the 93. so you actually come out ahead
Why would you refuse to fill with 93 or E85 (if available)?! Sounds like some folks are full of shit
hmm take my money
Why would I buy from a company that is just going to talk shit about my truck?
Havent seen Donnie in any chucky vidios lately ? Love Donnie''s tech tips. Lol
Apparently Donnie doesn't work at VMP anymore.
@@chrism.728 must not
Catless tune and intake another 40whp
Too bad they don't do flex tunes anymore.
4x4?
Yes it is
@@VMPPerformanceTV man that's alot of power for a 4x4 would really love to see what that would do supercharged
Absolutely no reason we dont have atleast 100 octane fuel mandated in the usa. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that the higher compression engines of today are making more power,and mileage as well as cleaner burning. You would think these so called enviromentalists would or should demand higher octane fuel be mandated!!!! Imagine if they would make the octane needed what the auto companies could do with even higher compression?
TheGto389 It's not the environmentalists that don't want E85 it's the oil compiles. If all cars ran on that much ethanol it would cut back on oil profits. All new cars could be made to run on E85. The mpg's aren't that good on it and that's all people and regulators look at.
Sign me up VMP!!
5.0 slow????? Buddy you clearly dont know much