Frank Zappa - The Torture Never Stops - FIRST TIME REACTION
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- Frank Zappa - The Torture Never Stops - FIRST TIME REACTION
Halloween month 2024 marches on. This certainly fit the profile, even Frank Zappa said so himself! This was a complete surprise, from the lyrics to the sudden change in direction of instrumentals this had everything you needed to hold your interest. All delivered in a suave, cool way.
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Nobody ever expects Frank Zappa.
Haha I think even with someone trying to explain it to you, it would still be a total surprise!
His chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... His two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... His *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...
Inca Roads is the song that really got me into him the man was amazing
Next Halloween stop - Zombie Woof. You will love it. This reaction was hilarious, thank you, I enjoyed!
Really glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching, and also for requesting a song to check out
The guy that was doing the screaming is Steve Vai. Before Vai started his solo career, Frank took him in under his wing as a 19-year-old. There are numerous interviews with Vai about this. Not a Halloween related Zappa tune, but often suggested to new Zappa listeners (for good reason), is the Yellow Snow Suite from Apostrophe. This will give a very good idea of what Zappa was capable of. If you do decide to dig a little deeper, keep in mind that Zappa composed all parts of his music for his band, and was adamantly against drugs. If you were in his band, drugs were not allowed. I did love this reaction and hope that you will be doing more Zappa!
Just saw Steve Vai with Adrian Belew, Tony Levin and the drummer from Tool.They are touring as "Beat" doing 80s Crimson. Great Show!
@@Pcrimson1 I saw KC last year (not Beat). They were incredible. I can only imagine that Beat is every bit as good.
The drummer is the suitably named Chad Wackerman. This is relatively orthodox for Zappa. Much more strangeness lurks in that rabbit hole. You have been warned.
Oh. My. God! This is his basic work?! 🤯
@@MusicForTheSoulReactions It is. If you end up with a taste for Zappa, pretty much everything else will seem bland.
@@GoodCorporateRobot thats a bold claim you've made there, Sir
Frank Zappa was proper unorthodox in all things mate. You're gonna love him. He was a musical genius until he left us in 1993. Lucky for us while he was alive Frank managed to release about 60 albums over 30 year period. And he also wrote much more that was never even released. So even now 30 years after he passed, there is still new Frank Zappa music being released by his family. Frank was truly an amazing individual, combining insanely complex musical compositions with zany lyrics, sometimes political, sometimes pornographic, always entertaining and enlightening. HE also employed some insanely talented musicians over the years. some of the best out there. We miss you Frank.
He has amassed one hell of a following, and clearly for good reason. I look forward to more mind spangling stuff from him. Cheers for the info and comment
definitive version of torture never stops is on "zoot allures", imo. as usual, the band is trained to watch him at all times. he gives cues about tempo, style, "eyebrows", song changes, interludes, etc... the band is incredibly talented and well-rehearsed. the guy screaming is steve vai, now revered in the shredder world. (frank credits him with "stunt guitar"... haha) there's a great interview with him about his tryout for the band. frank's bands are generally an ever-changing group of all-stars. this is a very deep rabbit hole. he'd released over 50 albums (all of which i have) by the time he died. he recorded EVERYTHING, so albums are still coming out. it's at something like 130 albums... seriously. 130.
That is insane! So many albums! And you have 50 of them 🤯, I think we can call you a super fan!
My favorite version of The Torture Never Stops is the one from 1975 (You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 4/Cheap Thrills). It doesn't have the distracting screams, but harmonica and vocals by Captain Beefheart.
@@SpaceRampage i have the silly wood-crated set of all 6 vols on CD... haha. vol 2 is my fave. it's so wonderful how prolific he is. there are versions of early silly mother's songs, that come back as symphonies. so much depth and breadth. just makes me smile thinking of it all.
You think Genesis had a huge catalogue to go through? Welcome to the Zappa rabbit hole lol. Over 130 official album releases, 64 of them while he was alive, all the others released post mortem
Wow, wow, WOW! That's one hell of a never ending rabbit hole to fall down!!!
@MusicForTheSoulReactions all well worth it! Inca Roads or Don't Eat The Yellow Snow suite would be the next ones to consider. Zappa is very complex, and you gotta integrate yourself easily into his world, if not it gets overwhelming
Another great Halloween song is Nina Hagen:New York, New York which is a live video combining punk and Opera
A good way to learn about him is to watch a vid of his band members talk about him Every sound you hear on that stage drum guitar keyboard scream cow bell came from Franks head
That's amazing, I love hearing when an artist created the whole composition on show, such skill!
Frank Zappa Goblin Girl is a great Halloween song
I'll pop it on the list and see if I can get back round to it, thanks for the recommendation
Frank was a gifted guitarist and composer who had an uncanny ability to get the very best out of every musician he worked with. His music was often a deliberate challenge to the listener, subverting expectations and guiding them along paths he had learned from the likes of Stravinski and in particular Edgar Varese. There's a delightful video here on RUclips of him appearing on a chat show in 1963, where he demonstrated the variety of sounds that can be created using only a bicycle. The host made light of it, but like the house band he clearly knew that Frank was introducing the audience to musique concrete.
Recommended albums: Hot Rats, Burnt Weeny Sandwich, Shut Up And Play Yer Guitar.
Wow, that shows the depth of his talent, being creative enough to find use of a bicycle!!!
Interesting intro to the world of Zappa. Zappa's vocals are more talky after he was attacked onstage in 1971. His larynx was damaged in the fall from the stage. In post-1971 Zappa, he has others handle much of the singing vocals. In the live version, he's being more playful with the styles than on the album version. You may want to check out the album. I believe this is the 1981 Halloween show at the NYC Palladium.
You may want to check out Peaches en Regalia to see what he can really do.
I didn't know that about him being attacked on stage, disgusting that someone would do that, especially impacting a singers vocals!
Well, even before that he distributed vocals around the band - well aware that he didn't have much of a voice. FWIW: Apart from the mad 1988 medley versions, my favorite Tortures are the late-1980-tour versions: the ones with Vinnie on drums, extra solos from either Tommy or Artie, and even that year's sex tape thrown in for good measure.
What I suspect you don't realise at the moment is you're watching one of the greatest composers and some of the best musicians of the 20th century Re:Steve Vai you should watch him and Frank dueting in Stevie's Spanking
One Size Fits All is reasonable place to start. That album has a broad look at his work, wonderful compositions, superb musicianship, 'complex' pieces (theyre not really complex just lots of superb musical nuances) , simple tunes, beautiful melodies, and in parts some memorably funny lyrics......
Frank is brilliant. Only 62 albums plus. Saw him twice. ✨️🎶✨️
Hahaha 62 albums, is that all?!!
@MusicForTheSoulReactions he's a part of much much more but takes no credit. If you get a chance, watch his address in front of the US Congress in the defence of free speech for an insight into the professors mind
@@lesblatnyak5947 Yowzeers, he really did do much more than music! Well done him for pushing for free speech!
@@MusicForTheSoulReactions 62 when he died, but since then it's doubled :-) Lots of unreleased stuff, 2-3 albums still being released a year, Zappa was mega prolific.
"iron sausage" is part of frank's "conceptual continuity". so many tendrils. it's a reference to a previous album (joe's garage)...
IT is literally a song about some rich Prince and his Torture Chamber.
Wow, that makes a lot of sense!
wow, the screamer is steve vai himself
He had some cracking pipes on him!
more zappa please. great reaction
oh my goodness. you have arrived at frank zappa. he's the best. (well, he and jerry garcia.) he uses so much rock history and contemporaneous events. funny jokes and serious music. been to 4 zappa shows. several "zappa plays zappa" shows, too. dwezil is serious about playing frank's difficult stuff properly. love your genesis exploration, and others. felt like eventually we'd get to zappa and the dead.
I've certainly landed at a new and unexplored form of music here with Frank Zappa. It's cool that you've seen him live a few times! I can see he is going to challenge me with his style switch ups 🤣
I attended this concert plus all his Halloween shows in NYC
No way, that's so cool that you were there at the video I just watched! Epic!!
@MusicForTheSoulReactions i saw frank 2 dozen times and almost every Halloween he played ny
Those shows were wild. I also saw the does humour belong in Music show at the Pier in NY
Soooo much to unpack with Zappa if you're not familiar with his work, and I'm sure you'll get tons of suggestions if you want to go that path. Some of the most intensely intricate writing and arrangements, so very, very, very avant garde. The musicians who played with him are legends of their respective crafts. 'Genius' is often overused, but absolutely applies to Zappa's collective catalogue.
I'm sure I'll be back with him at some point, he has peaked my interest with this unusual and off the cuff style!
If you want Halloween music, Frank has released a least 3 albums of Halloween music: Halloween 73 (#114), Halloween 77 (#110) and Halloween 81 (#117)...check 'em out - you'll love it!
Zappa Lives!
Why thank you for this! As long as Zappa has his adoring fans, he lives
The song is called Smoke on the water by Deep Purple
Thank you so much!
FZ was a genius. He wrote some absurd lyrics and some serious ones. A real free speech artist and brilliant musician. He did not drink or use drugs except coffee and cigs. So his demeanor was a bit odd for his day. To a lesser extent I consider Jefferson Airplane a bit experimental and serious about free speech. From '67 to '69 they were the US' best band, I think. They did a weird song with Zappa too. Yes, dig more of it!
The name of Zappa's band was 'The Mothers of Invention'. Try "Montana".
Hi Steve, great to sea you react to Zappa.
Thank you. I can see this will be another journey that will undoubtedly challenge me in new and unique ways! 😂
I genuinely think you’d love Zappa, man. His album Joe’s Garage is the only concept album that compares to the Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.
Well I'm certainly happy to dive into his song list and see how I find it! Although having another lamb lies down on broadway on my hands already sets my mind fizzing from the anticipated challenge 🤣
Listening to Zappa the first couple of times might well be similar to bungy-jumping. Since a major part of Frank Zappa's active time as a composer was before videos became a normal part of music (about early 80s) it might be good to know that his son Dweezil with band is covering much of his material live under the name Zappa plays Zappa (or varities). Much is very hard to play. Check the cover of "Zomby Woof" (also halloweenich!) with Steve Vai (who is the screemer in this video) makes an incredible guest guitar solo.
hahahahaqaaaa.... bungy jumping! hilarious comparison.
Nice one, Steve! 😎
Thank you 🙂
I believe the drummer is of German descent. HIs name is Chad Wackerman.
Very apt name for a drummer!
Inca Roads will blow ye mind fella, watch the "Token of his Extreme" version live 1974...incredible
I'll take a look, cheers for the recommendations!
Steve, you heard Zappa mentioned in Smoke On The Water, by Deep Purple. He also made an appearance in the weird movie 'Head', which featured The Monkees 😳😊
Ah smoke on the water, that was it, thank you! That does sound like a weird movie 🤣
You don't want to know about the iron sausage dude. Rock on.
Hahaha well now you've made me more intrigued 🤣
For a dark theme and sound, you might like Genesis - 'Watcher Of The Skies' from their Foxtrot album (1972)
Cool, be good to cover genesis for Halloween theme month!
The vomiting 🤢 noises are no doubt carefully transcribed in the arrangement.
I bet they are, love it!
haha, yeah - great reaction / responses to that… you were cracking *me* up!
it’s always refreshing to witness someone who loves music deal with Zappa (often a tough nut, he) and doing so with an open mind and a sense of humor, so good on you, Steve.
in his 100 or so albums there are countless musical gems - and yes a fair bit of madness in much of it, but the man was a giant, restless talent - and a master piss-taker / ball-buster - and the juxtaposition of the intellect against the silliness, the compositing, the often exhilarating guitar playing (if it connects with you… fully subjective) and band-leader’ship - the dude is an absolute *treasure* to many of us.
thx for doing it Steve - appreciate your attitude and will be tuning into the channel 😎
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Hey Sean, thank you for both commenting and for the kind feedback. Good to know that with Frank he will do and say things just to mess with me, sounds like he'll have me pulling my hair out in no time 🤣
I’ve got a couple of suggestions….just to dip your toe into some great grinding guitars and bass: Ozzy Osborne (of Black Sabbath) No More Tears……and a REALLY fun one to watch: Enter Sandman by Metallica…live Moscow….1.6 million people attended a rock show in 1991 …one of the first after the Iron Curtain fell.
Black Sabbath is considered, I think, by most people under 50 to be one of the OG metal bands….the bridge between hard rock and metal. For those of us immersed in rock at the time Sabbath broke ( I was 20 or so), they were thought of as the hardest of hard rock bands…along with Judas Priest. Ozzy went his own way and on No More Tears it is the fantastic Zakk Wilde on that dirty dirty guitar. 😁🤘
You've got me at dirty dirty guitar!!! I'll more than happily pop those requests on there for you! Really appreciate you giving me new directions to explore
The "screamer" was Steve Vai =)
Well Steve Vai has some lungs on him!
Insanity by Oingo Boingo is a great one for Halloween
Love the band name there! I'll pop it on the list, cheers
Zappa IS 'mental' and unique. I thought you, Steve, would like Zappa. His lyrics are bonkers. But the Swagger is all Frank. You will find a lot to like (or hate). This guy has the best musicians and has written an insane amount of music.
As a side note, since you like Genesis and Phil Collins, you might not be surprised to hear that Phil liked Zappa (and Mahavishnu Orchestra and Weather Report, two other quirky but excellent bands) so when he went looking for a drummer he knew who he would like to work with and it was Chester Thompson. Chester had worked with Zappa on several albums and also with Weather Report, so when asked Chester said "Sure I'll drum for Genesis" Phil was floored. No audition necessary. He and Phil worked together for 3 decades! Sorry! Bet this is too much useless info.
Not useless info at all. I know diddly squat about Frank Zappa so any info is new to me and interesting, cool that Phil is a fan, doesn't surprise me in the slightest knowing genesis like I do now! I can imagine every song is a wild ride of unpredictability both instrumentally and lyrically!
Interesting. If Steve is perplexed with Genesis sometimes, Zappa should curl his hair. Look forward to this......especially since Steve is 'jazzed'. LOL Would we say Zappa is scary all the time?
He certainly took me by surprise and I would say there is an intimidation to him and his musical styles that I'm going to have to overcome 🤣
@@MusicForTheSoulReactions Zappa can be intimidating. But he is zany, cheeky, and sardonic (to a fault, some might say). But I think he intimidated the musicians too. Being a perfectionist and insanely creative, playing Zappa's music must have been overwhelming at times (you'll hear as you listen to more). Chester said, that in all the bands he has been associated with, only Genesis approached the work level of Zappa. Both would rehearse 8 hours a day, week in and week out, to get it right before recording or touring!
@@rk41gator I can certainly see the similarities between Zappa and Genesis, more so in how they fry my brain! But the work ethic is there for all to see. Its far too complex to be anything else but that!
Ok, let's see how you go...
@@Someonelser1 good luck!
Woah, Steve! You’re heading into major niche territory here. Zappa fans are fanatically devoted. He was a MAJOR talent……I respect the hell out of him. Can’t listen to his music much. I think that’s the way allot of us feel; respect up the yin-yang, but don’t listen.
May I VERY respectfully, ask you…..so that I can manage my expectations when I tap on your channel every day: Are you going to be going on an extended sampling of music before you get back to “the biggies”? Please understand:: your channel…your taste, your journey. I’m excited for you…no matter which direction you choose. I just need to handle MY expectations so that I don’t feel a Little “ aw, phooey” when I check in daily. Perhaps I should just figure that youre going eclectic for awhile, and then it will be a pleasant surprise for me when you revisit my favorite ans continue “the run”. If you’ve grown to love other directions….just say so…….and I will no longer be expecting it.
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Hey, yeah I totally caught on to the niche element of Frank Zappa after this first listen. Don't mind you asking at all. I wouldn't say I'm going on a different path now, I certainly intend to keep returning to the old favourites that both Roadies and I enjoy in equal measure, I suppose I'm finding this to be quite an overwhelming experience in terms of trying to keep bringing it back to the ones I wish to keep exploring further, but then also respecting others who come in and request something née when I of course started this channel journey for me to explore anything and everything given my previous ignorance in musical tastes. I'd probably just say to check out what I've uploaded and if that particular one isn't for you I absolutely respect your preference to not watch it and vice versa to when I cover something that's right up your street. I'm finding trying to satisfy everyone's tastes is becoming harder by the day, especially as more and more recommendations come in frequently! Sorry if you are struggling to stick with the channel in that regard. Have a great upcoming week
@@MusicForTheSoulReactionsI perfectly well understand you’re feeling overwhelmed. After all, it’s OVER 50 years of music you have to choose from and everyone got their faves that they want you to hear. If I could give you a bit of advice…although you did not ask for any. It’s allot easier to NOT feel overwhelmed if you organize it into either genres or decades…….and then move back and forth every week or so. If you run after each “squirrel” that catches your eye or that people suggest, you will quickly feel inundated and might burn out. IF…and that’s a big if….you wish to grow your channel, it will prove harder, from what I’ve seen, if you run hither and yon into myriad genres, until you’ve established yourself a bit more. . You’re basically chasing your own tail and you’ll never catch it. The algo will bring people to you who have shown a preference for an artist when you listen to that artist….but they MIGHT not stick around if you are continuously changing up your vibe.
There will always be someone who likes something, no matter how obscure or niche. Like the gentleman who didn’t want you to “play safe”. Well….”safe” is good for building a channel initially.
You were polite in saying that if I didn’t stick around, you understood. Thank you. I will check in because I like you and your style. Plus, I certainly will be around for that album reaction to DSOTM.
BEST OF LUCK and enjoy the journey! 😁✌️
Be the first, have a shot at the title of being the first to react to NG BIZ, by Frank Zappa. Fortune favours the brave.
Before I take you up on this endeavour, may I kindly ask why this particular song is swerved by all other reactors?! I fear my sanity is on the line with this one for some reason 🤔🤣
@@MusicForTheSoulReactions Okay. NG BIZ is a song composed by Frank Zappa about how he was treated by the record companies, one in particular. Not sure of how much you know about Frank. But Frank was fearless. And NG BIZ gives it to them. If you are brave, try it. You will get more subs ad the comments will be wonderful to read. "Someone out there in that audience knows what we are doing and that person is getting off on it beyond his or her wildest comprehension" - Frank Zappa.
@@bwana-ma-coo-bah425 I like the idea of hearing someone sticking it to the man so to speak! I'll pop it on the list and highlight it for next time I re-visit Frank. I know nothing of the man, the myth, the legend other than his name since starting this channel.
@@MusicForTheSoulReactions I will be looking for it.
just improvised, Zappas way
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there's no "genre" for frank. he cannot be compartmentalized. even w/in a song he can do anything. frank is a genre. 3 good albums to start with are apostrophe, overnite sensation and one size fits all. pretty accessible, but still show off his incredible range.
FZ is (was) very anti drugs but they really help enemies listening to Z one of the best guitarist ever but v experimental to put it mildly
Too bad you did this version first. The album version is much darker. I"ve never seen this version before. This is a much lighter comical version. My fault, I should have told you to do the studio version first.
However, it is Frank live. I was at an earlier Halloween show. They were annual events in New York every year. People would get dressed up in all sorts of costumes and go wild.. He is a master guitarist and composer. After Halloween settles down, you need to revisit his other songs. And if you have time, listen to the album version, it's much creepier...US Roadie 1 on to the next one, Souixie is great...
Ah, that's a shame I went the wrong way song wise, but it was great to see him perform and get a feel for what he and the band are like...Needless to say, I remain perplexed even now 🤣. This was great fun!
iron saussage lol eat it not cruel device
Yeah, one of the most confusing lyrics I've ever come across 🤣
I love Zappa but he is so out there he can be hard to listen to
I'd definitely say he was a challenge, but to me that's always an intrigue rather than a deterent!
@@MusicForTheSoulReactions try the albums Sheik yerboti or apostrophe