Russell Hantz of Survivor: Heroes Vs Villains angry over losing
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2010
- He was without question the most aggressive player on Survivor: Heroes Vs. Villains, but Russell Hantz didn't receive a single vote from the jury. Coming in third place on the heels of his second-place finish in Samoa last season, Russell was angry about losing to Sandra Diaz-Twine. After the finale in New York City, Russell talked with RealityTVMagazine's Ryan Haidet about how "terrible" Sandra is, why he thinks Rupert is still a "dumbass" and why explains why he is the best Survivor contestant of all time.
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For him to go back to back to the final with out a break is incredible. He was probably drained so much and still dominated the game.
I was wondering why he seemed not as aggressive this season. I mean he didn't find a single idol unlike he did in season 19. I was expecting that same drive and tenacity. Don't get me wrong he was still the same ole Russell, but he seemed kind of over it in season 20.
Andrew C No one saw him play the first time, he had the biggest advantage coming into the game. That’s why JT gave him the idol.
@@a.jdeets5527 They liked him that much that he was on the very next season. Wow. Talk about unfair for the other team.
Amanda did it too!
PolyRon Season 20 He was in it but the guy was physically trained but by far 20 was his best showing made all the all stars look weak
It’s infuriating that people don’t understand that the hardest part of this game is managing to make it to the end while managing to not piss everyone off on the jury. It’s easy to be cutthroat and backstabbing, but much hard to manage to vote people off and still get them to gift you a million dollars.
I mean yeah but people need to understand 2 things: SOCIAL GAME ain't the same as JURY MANAGEMENT. People keep talking about how Russel had 0 social game, then explain how he absolutely steamrolled 2 seasons back to back and was calling the shots the entire time? He had tons of social game. The problem is that he isn't a suckup or pretends to be nice, as he says it himself in this video: I can't play any other way. His social game wasn't lacking, his Jury management was.
@@HugsmadeDrugs He has no social game except for intimidation. Everybody hated him, which is why he received zero votes. There is a reason why people love Boston Rob or Sandra but not him. Because they are very likable as a person. Russell an a-hole and he is going to jail now for a reason. To win its not just about STRATEGY ALONE. You need to predict the unpredictable, you need to have strong jury management, you need to tone down your ego and not openly be arrogant, you need to learn when to be aggressive and stay out of radar, you need to be likable as a person, you need to know who your threat is. Russell had none of them except for strategy. That's it. Boston Rob said it best, he played to get to the final not to win. He has the worse jury management in history, he choose the 2 person that could beat him in a landslide (Identifying your threats), he was arrogant & rude, he never stays under the radar, etc. To top it off, he is the worst sore loser in the history of the game. He is not even among the top 20 greatest ever. Now he can cry his sorry as* in jail because he is not just a horrible player. He is a horrible person & a scammer.
Yes it's easy to backstab but it's not easy to do it in a way that you can make it to FTC
@@HugsmadeDrugssocial game is more complex than simplying lying your ass off. If youre going to lie then cover your ass better. Something clearly he couldnt do. Hes a terrible liar.
No, the problem is people fail to bring goats to the end with them & "jury management" dude all I would say is if I was theree I'll just donate the money to charity and they will go "oh cool here's your vote". In Samoa he said he is a millionairee that is the dumbest move ever, this stuff is a factor it's why peoplee vote off all the people that won a car. He could've also made sure he brought to the jury the people that liked him like Ash and that other country guy. In HvV he never had a chance they were just all bad losers with too high of egos.
i respect him a little more because i didnt know he only had 10 days apart from each season
wow 10 days apart ,I did not know that, and I believe you, jeff probst was right, the game of survivor has specific rules & you have to win within those rules.
Nick Nowicki Yea. He's technically right. So its not soley a game about wits, it's about sore hurt butts on a jury going with their feelings. You can play the best game, but the jury can award someone who didn't do anything the money.
I see what Russell is saying.
Yep, and the key part about that is, when he started season 20, he still had no idea about the Season 19 results. So in his mind, he may have (rightfully) assumed that he beat Natalie and Mick, and he was going for his 2nd million dollars in a row. So why would he change the way he played?
I don't think this is true, I think I remember him saying "I think all stars will reward my game" kinda referring to him knowing he lost. I think he or parvarti win tho if the season didn't focus on the whole "heroes v villains" bit tho. Still the fact that Natalie won in so laughable lol
Notthefather yeah I get what you mean but you can’t really play the best game if you made everyone upset and hurt on the jury. That is part of it and has been since the beginning.
I didn't realise he never left the island between series. That's pretty impressive to put your body/mind through hell then head back out 10 days later to do it all over again. He was at a massive disadvantage and still got to the final 3. It shows a lot about how tough Russell really is. He makes bloody good tv to! Kudos.
no, it was actually an advantage to him. he was still fresh in the game, so he didnt need time to get back up to speed. some players hadnt played in years, so they needed time to adjust back into survivor-mode. but russels mind was already in survivor mode day 1 cause he had just played for 39 days. also, no one saw his first season so no one knew who he was. that was his biggest advantage over everyone else. so many people were voted off based off reputation. tom wastman, boston rob etc. if people had seen russels first season, he would have never made it to the end. he would've been voted off early.
He had two weeks between 19 and 20 Russell said why’ll everyone was going home and was getting to go eat and clean up he was in his hotel room wondering why he wasn’t getting ready to leave and Russell stated Mark Barnett walked in with a couple of producers and said to Russell you think you are the best go prove it and shipped him out again to do 20. Of course Russell could have said no but come on who wouldn’t
@@magicmath2714 but to be fair I’d question why this new guys here and in a season like that I would have targeted Russell right away and Rob tried and almost had him just Tyson screwed it up and Parvati and Daniel were smart to aline with Russell cause they knew he was crazy and no one would vote for him. I knew he probably wouldn’t win 20 but he should have won 19 but Russell did give us some great television to watch the guy was amazing really aggressive but made the seasons fun unless you hated him
it's also the reason russel went 'crazy' during HvV and why he never really worked on his past mistakes or changed
No it was a disadvantage. People have limits. Russell literally played 78 days instead of 39.
He would not have lasted that long if people had seen Survivor Samoa.
Agreed, and it showed in Survivor: RI. The moment he played with people familiar with him, he was ousted real quick.
Dallas This is probably a pretty bullshit statement because Parvati said before HvV that she was gonna align with anyone even if they’re a big threat and Danielle would still align with him because she did trust him! And Russell still would’ve found the idol!
@@LiteDisc It would have taken only the first 30 minutes of the very first episode. No way would that same lineup of Villains let him near the starting line today.
Here's Tommy! He didn’t have it at his first Tribal
Ryley Carroll I know he didn’t have it at the Randy vote out but I personally believe maybe the tribe would’ve been thinking of getting rid of Russell or Randy. And they still would’ve voted out Randy because Russell performs way better at challenges. But who knows it’s just a theory.
damn i didn't know he had only 10 days in between both the seasons he played
Amanda did it too
@@user-ti9jb6ij8f and James
And Malcolm!
And Rupert
And the guy from worlds apart with the red shirt
holy shit. back to back seasons 10 days apart and made it to the end both times. that is ENDURANCE on every level. greatest player
amanda did it too lol
Not just that when he went to the final live for Samoa in December he had to keep his mouth shut about season 20 cause it was already filmed by then. Then goes to the final in May for HvV and still lost that’s tough
@@isarahk Amanda got to go home and part of he season aired before she was flown out for Micronesia. Its not a 10 day turnaround like Russell.
sodamaker films the best players win tho so...
no way hes the greatest player
america loves him because hes good television hes entertaining but he was too aggresive in the game he needed to lighten up and not continuesly being aggresive.
So true, really good way to summarize it all up
I agree. I feel he was trying to hard to make big moves and those big moves ended up costing him so jury votes.
Yeah, but the same argument could have been said for Boston Rob and he won his season.
@@Eternaldarkness3166 Boston Rob was a lot smoother with the way he talked to be. Russel had a very condescending approach and it made him unlikable but Boston Rob made it seem like he actually cared about the player so when they went to jury they didn't feel betrayed. Also Rob took to goats to the end whereas Russell took likeable players to the end.
well said, saddhu saddha saddhu
If I played Survivor with Russell he's the first person I'm gunning to be voted out, pre merge or post merge regardless.
Russell is a little bitch. When he got kicked out early in season 22 he cried like a bitch and had the gall to call his teammates out for thr0wing a challenge to get him out. After the things he pulled its pretty funny. He's not someone to be impressed by, he was willing to stoop lower than anyone else and control weak minds, That's not impressive to me
@@Chasstful ye wym little bitch russell is one of the hardest working and hardest mentality players to ever touch this game.
I wouldn’t, I would work to get on his good side. He’s a perfect person to bring to the finals, everyone will hate him and not want to give him their vote and and he would bring his alliance who’s most useful to him with him to the finals.
Like Probst has said before, "Survivor is a microcosm of the real world". There are people in the world who many would say, "that person is the best and they deserve to be successful in life" and yet they are not because those who get to decide their fate decide that they are not going to win. Russell has now got a bit of that same feeling of resentment and "unfairness".
In reality your character will be the judge. His character and personality was too see through.
Parvati was by far the best player that season. Easily the best social player and probably the best at challenges. The best idol plays of all time. And she had her back to the wall multiple times and managed to save herself.
If u say so..
Russell brought her to the finale.
@@deleted_user_6wa72sak1 lmao okay
Russell was better than her IMO.
If it weren’t for him, she would have been voted out day 2.
I know a lot of people say he had an advantage because no one else had watched his season, but he also had a big disadvantage playing back-to-back so quickly. I feel like those two things basically balance each other out.
He's not the only one to do that though Amanda Kimmel did that but people actually saw some of her game before Micronesia
@@anthonymort5202 Russell made the finals both times
@@dio696 so did Amanda Kimmel
@@artlordkozu9065 I just pointed it out because everybody thinks that Russell is the only one to make it to the final three on back-to-back seasons he's not Amanda Kimmel did it first that's why she's considered a legend
@@artlordkozu9065 and I didn't point out that Amanda did the first to take away from Russell I did it to make the point that he's not the only one to do it Amanda did it before him
haha that impression of Rupert, no waaay noooo not me i am Rupert hahahha
Sandra literally warned the entire tribe of Russell’s oncoming destruction and I really feel like they felt that they owed her for that. I mean I would too. Not only that but Russell told too many lies to too many people. Literally one second he’d make a promise to someone and the next he’d be trying to vote that same person out.
Sandra literally did nothing all game. Oh please
@@lonerebeI the people that played with her disagree with you.
Sandra running to Rupert at the merge to warn the heroes about Russell is my favorite moment of HvV. It's the scene that gave her the win.
@FeverDog420 Thing that always annoyed me was.
It didn't matter whether Russell or Sandra was telling the truth.
The Heroes should have voted Russell. If Russell is telling the truth, the vote is 5-4-1, Russell leaves.
If Russell is lying, the vote ties and Sandra flips on the revote, Russell is gone. And in both scenarios no one would think of giving him the idol.
The Heroes were idiots.
So what if he told lies. It is outwit, outplay, outlast. Lying is part of the game. I don’t believe he outplayed Parvati but he should have been the runner up and Parvati should have won. The jury abdicated their responsibility.
dude just casually stole that plant
sam jude 😂
This was post-reunion show of HvV and they're about to close the event.
Although that represents Russell's Survivor career. Everything has ended but he's still talking ang never crowned Sole Survivor. Huhu
@@debitford out of his control. He did his part. Russell is the 🐐
read that as soon as it happened
That's why he was so good in heroes vs villains he just came off of his previous season so he was already adjusted and still in game mode where as most of the others had a alot of time off
the fact that he was so cocky and arrogant, he didn't realise how poor his jury management skill was. Just like Amanda, she got into final twice and didn't win. So why can't Russell see that? Even Brian who was awful and villainous won, Todd who was cunning won, Parvati the backstabber won so there's no reason why a villain cannot win. Russell is so delusional to think he is the best player in Survivor. Look what happened in Redemption Island, I was so happy he went home early. I'd rather watch Boston Rob or Rupert play again than listening to him "If you're not with me, you're against me" who do you think you are? A freakin god? wake up Russell!
+Afiq Shahril Brian Heidik never let his fellow players know how he felt or how he manipulated them - he totally deserved to win and played one of the best games ever.
Russell has no idea how to manage players without pissing them off (or relying on idols not skill) He wins fan fav for bringing drama to the season because of his play but will never win a jury vote because those people see first hand how troll like he is
+Kerry Taliaferro Brian would have destroyed Russell on contact.
All 3 were bullies, it's just Sandra hides it best. I do think Russel was robbed in Somoa but this season could have gone to any of the 3.
I agree that Russell was robbed in Samoa. The Galu Tribe were a bunch of Bums they were! They dug their own grave turning against Erik, they got overconfident putting all their votes on Russell who played an Idol resulting in Kelly getting blindsided, and then they made Shambo a sitting duck, If they had common sense, they should've eliminated Shambo the one time they lost the Tribal Immunity challenge and went to Tribal Council, That Tribe sucks!
They foolishly take their anger out on Russell, when he proved that he was ten times the better leader of the Foa Foa Four than Mick was! If I was on the Jury in that season, I would talk Mick down for being the worst Tribe leader in Survivor history, I would praise Natalie for being a strong woman but criticize her for not pulling off any big moves/blindsides or at least winning one individual immunity challenge. On the other hand, I'd campaign for Russell to win just like David Murphy did for Boston Rob in Redemption Island and what Spencer Bledsoe did for Tony Vlachos in Cagayan.
Russell, was the reason why Foa Foa had started off as the underdog Tribe and had managed to have 3 remaining members make it to the Final Tribal Council, He might not have had a good social game, but finding THREE hidden immunity Idols and winning the Final Immunity Challenge over Brett, In the end I would vote for him to win in Samoa.
I probably would not vote for him in Heroes Vs. Villains though, because when you have a second chance at competing on Survivor, you want to use the second chance to learn from your mistakes that cost you the game the first time, The way i see it, Russell didn't improve on his Social Game, I would vote for Parvati instead in HvV because her moves stood out more than Russell's did and she won more individual immunity challenges than Russell did. But, I would only vote for Russell a second time if he had voted Parvati out at the Final 4 when he had the chance and had taken Sandra and Jerri with him to the Final Three.
Anyway, that's just my take on how Russell played in his first two seasons!
Sandra sucked at everything and was annoying, the only reason she won cause nobody cared about her and people hated on Russell and parvarti from beating them
Parvati is NOT a bully.
I disagree. Well, Russell WAS a bully, no doubting that. Parvati was just a playful villain and Sandra was actually cool with the heroes (why she got their votes). I think Samoa was an important season to show that if you are an A-Hole you won't win. You can't bully your way to winning survivor. It was showin All Stars and now it's shown in Samoa. The social game matters. Russell was a sacrificial lamb to proving this point to future seasons.
I do agree with Coach in the final tribal that if Russell was a little more apologetic and human, he could have gotten more support, but instead he resorted to calling Rupert 'a dumbass'. Great way to garner votes, idiot.
None of them are bullies bro , if you want to see what an ACTUAL bully on survivor is look up Colton Cumble
3:20, 'and I'll be taking this'
Please... If the cast of HvV would have been able to see the way Russel played in Samoa, he would have been out way earlier, and JT wouldn't have given him his idol. He had an unfair advantage.
Playing back to back season is an unfair advantage. Lol ur dumb
@@tylergoodwin3546 You missed my entire point.
The sure zeroed in on Parvati fast enough.
@@tylergoodwin3546 Playing back to back also means nobody on your 2nd season will know who you are, since they’re filmed back to back too.
@@carriewhitmore maybe, but his point trumped yours.
russell is a very entertaining villian i'm very impressed that he managed to play two seasons back to back and make it to the final 3 twicee is really impressive and no one has ever done it before
I’m pretty sure Amanda Kimmel did it
@@emmalefinson1619yup
“I have the best social game”
5 minutes later - 3:36
He has the shittiest social game of all time. He makes everyone hate him and then expects them to vote for him anyway.
I saw the entire season 19 and I dont know from what can people be offended.. he just humiliated them because they had 8-4 numbers and all 8 of them were on the jury
His ONLY weakness in the game of survivor in my opinion. Only reason he hasn't won is because of an emotional jury
@@lonerebeI He played a good game but if you don't have connections on the Jury your not gonna win overall. You can blame it on a bitter jury but that's something Russell expected and even with him knowing the jury would be bitter he still didn't make an attempt and then gets mad when he doesn't win
He won the player of the season because he got an absurd amount of airtime, compared to everybody else.
He got the amount of airtime he got because he was behind literally every vote and every play (aside pre-merge Hero wins obviously) so of course he's gonna get airtime. He was there. every time.
@@nasierbrown8974 first best
He also got a mind boggling amount of screentime in season 19 he got 25% of the confessionals in samoa
@@rindin1101 Usually the winners, if they're at all interesting, do get the lionshare of the confessionals. At least the character ones. Like, Boston Rob in Redemption Island was 40% of confessionals or something ridiculous.
Proof is in the pudding, you get airtime if you’re entertaining and a good player, look at every single season
Would love to see Russell do a video commentating this video live on his channel. After his last 2 videos he posted, it'd be awesome to hear how he views himself speaking here
He has a point, making it to the end is like 50% of the game, and I'd rather be at the final 3 with 0 votes then be liked by the contestants and be 5th on the jury, dude plays damn hard to stay alive and everyone is so butt hurt that they lost their opportunity because they couldn't play as hard as he did, I never knew he stayed on the island as well that's fucking insane, Russel beat survivor, sadly he didn't win
I mean, that's not really something that says he should win in that final three, because he was sitting beside two people who not only made it to the end before, but also got the votes needed to win. Parvati in Micronesia and Sandra in Pearl Islands.
Cheaters never prosper.
The fact is that people have made it to he final 3 while also being liked by the contestants.... you do not have to choose one way or another. 50% percent of the game is not enough to win which Russell proved twice with his poor performance. 50% is failing..... and that's what his type of strategy gets you, failure. Lying cheating and screwing people over seems to be the easy way out of survivor so it does not seem like he played damn hard. It seems more like he played the easy game by taking every chance to hurt his fellow contestants and then when he had a chance to win at the end by simply saying that he had some regrets he couldn't swallow his ego to sooth the jury. Honestly, screwing people over is part of the game but acting like a D on top of that simply is crap tactics and its called doing too much. If you do have to screw someone over don't be smug afterwards cuz that's how you lose the jury.
Querent2000 how did he cheat? You must be deluded
@@baddragonfire People forget that Parvati also lost. The least hated person always wins at the end. It's probably one of Survivors major flaws. You could have ridden coattails all game but if you spoke to people enough to not hate you you win. If everyone played the way to lets say Natalie did it would be boring.
It's one thing to admire a clever villain if you are watching him on TV, it's another thing entirely to admire him if you are playing with him and your life is made miserable by his antics. In both seasons the jury walked in angry and concluded that it is actually more impressive a feat to survive someone like Russell than to be Russell.
This is the most sound arguement to a Russel loss. I agree 100%. Sore loser effect took him down not the other players.
now he's just like Coach, he thinks his way of playing should be the "standard" whether it works or not. Survivor is about winning whatever way works
@Sam Crow Look the producers have done a lot to make the game better. Sandra's win in HvV was their wake up call that there was a problem with the game and that things needed to change.
Over the past 20 seasons, we have had nothing but good deserving winners. Even Michelle was not that bad.
Coach was really annoying in his first season, but I thought was a lovable doofus here.
If Tony won he should have won
Fr
There all mad they got played like the puppets they are
Nah. Everyone russel delt with was stupid af. Literally. The plans he did none of them where smart. They just looked smart cause everyone else was a idiot
rupert
It all depends on the jury. Parvati I thought should have won since they all hated Russell. Sandra winning twice is a joke tho. People are so gullible, she sold out her mom dying and her husband in the army as to why she should have won.
He really is an egotist.
King you mean?
And whats wrong with that if its true? If someone was rich you call them rich. If someone is dumb you call them dumb. He is an egotist sure and thats because he knows he is the best which is TRUE.
@Abby from wii sports the best never win
Ppl love snakes😏
@@rhondalynch6969 and so u are
Russell is so good that he brought Sandra and Parvati to the end. Sandra and Parvati. Two of the best players in history. That alone should exemplify how horrible his strategy is. He makes big moves, sure, but they don't make sense in the context of the game. Sandra and Parvati manipulated him to oblivion and he won't own up to it (in the case of Sandra, so badly that he still doesn't see that she did). He also "won't change the way he plays" despite it being a proven losing strategy. He was the goat of the season. Everyone wanted to bring him to the end. This interview alone should show just how rotten of a person he is, not to mention stupid
Russell was his own downfall. Had he shown remorse for his actions, I feel the outcome would have been different. Instead, he made himself look like a horrible bully and a nasty and controlling person.
Russell took the wrong people at the end. If he took danielle and candice he would of own. If he was so i control he wud of been able to keep candice.
@@1polyron1 Lmao, he apologized for his actions and said everything he did was pure strategy during his speech. People acted like he was the devil, when there are people that have been on the show and won that have completely lied about their personal lives, cheated and have gone after the personal lives of other players. Russell didn't once say anyone was a bad person on that show or go after anyone personally, not really, but he was called the devil and an awful person by many people he played with, despite the fact that none of those people really know Russell outside of the game. That's what frustrates me the most, you have morons like Ruppert who can't separate a game from reality. Good game play should be rewarded. If the main reason you get to the end is because you're nice and don't take matters into your own hands by making big moves, then your lucky, simple as that. So I agreed with what Russell said in his speech that he wasn't lucky because he took matters into his own hands. If you get to the end because of luck and being nice you don't deserve it.
@@watsupdoc I think he was right taking Sandra even though she won. I'm like Russell in that I don't respect Sandra's gameplay (granted I didn't see Sandra's first season). Everyone nowadays is obsessed with jury management, but that's only one part of the game...you also have to be good at challenges, find idols before other players find them and play them properly and then make good game moves so the jury will respect you. Sandra was only good at the social game, she didn't win jack shit, got outplayed and out maneuvered by Russell (yes I do believe this because Russell and Parvati could have worked together to get rid of Sandra whenever they wanted. No Russell wasn't manipualted by Sandra, he honestly thought Sandra was a weak player that didn't deserve to win). I do think Parvati had a solid case to win it that year, I would have respected it if she won, but no way Sandra deserved it. She only won it because of a bitter jury that over exaggerated the jury management aspect of the game.
@@rmh941 amen. Sandra should NOT have won. Russel or Parvati, deserved it...even Russel couldn't even get rid of her half the time cuz of her immunity wins.
I'm from Louisiana and his accent remind me of home! Love it!
I thought the same. When he was announced he was a Texan, I couldn't believe it..
@@brasstacksboxing409 He lives in Houston now, but he is for sure from Louisiana
@@MsSexyDiva4Lyfe makes sense
Did he win fan favorite on both seasons he was on?
Part of me respects just how hard he tries and pushes himself, but part of me finds his inability to understand his own shortcomings despite not even being able to get a single jury vote cringe worthy. Easily one of the worst social games ever played in the series.
@Dreamleaf He definitely didn’t play a good social game this season but he still should’ve won because of his strategic game and his dominance.
@@bigladthomas He should’ve known that the jury wouldn’t vote for someone who screwed them over. The jury is always bitter, and you have to take that into account when playing the game.
@@bigladthomas that never guarantees a win. You need a good strategic game, a good social game, and a bit of luck. He had only one, good enough to get him in the end but not to win. Also, he played twice after and went home 2nd.
Jerri sums up the hole thing LMAO. "I'm really happy that Sandra won because he depises Sandra soooo much." It's so satisfying !
And this was Survivor's poster child for the darkness talking. Not a ringing endorsement.
She's a proven sitter and quitter. Russell would never, NEVER disrespect the game, himself or his fans by quitting. Sandra has lost all credibility with Season 40.
Sandra is a joke, always has been a joke and can’t play the game without bringing some sob story with her.
@@AllRequired he revived survor single handedly
@@radcolortiedye6718
Russell disrespected the game in the reunion when he claims there was a flaw in it, which there wasn't. Even then, he still signed up to play a third time.
Yup. Every person on Russell’s side did what he wanted. And when he said someone is gone, they were gone! Best player ever.
Lol they literally just were using him paravati was his puppet master jerri was just a gullible woman.
Survivor is a game, outwit, outplay, outlast.. Russel is a master of outlasting but he struggles in outwit (Jury) which he forgets that's the most important part is the Jury and how they perceived you as a player. It takes someone who can outwit the Jury into voting for you, the one who put them there. Such as Tony, Sandra, Rob, etc. If Russel would have made that adjustment after Samoa, he would have been the greatest player ever.
Russell's back to back season performances on Samoa and HvV was great.
Russell come along way since this interview. He’s more respectful now even admitted he was stupid after the show was done.
Yup, and after rewatching Samoa, it's amazing that he didnt win. His game play of being a bully and playing the jury wrong is blown way out of proportion because of HvV. He was brilliant in season 19 and totally robbed by a bitter jury. Season 20 should have gone to Parvati or Russell. No way, Sandra deserves it.
@@radcolortiedye6718 Sandra, unlike Parvati or Russell, actually knew how to manage the jury, so before you make trash takes like these, learn how the game works.
She persuaded a bitter jury, sure. She did not play a better game. That's a fact.
@@radcolortiedye6718 Russell had 0 social game. Sandra's was 1,000,000x better. No one would wanna give a million dollars to an arrogant showboater. We can also take into account how bad Russell's FTC performance was. Keep coming at me with your half baked lame ass excuses for takes.
@@radcolortiedye6718 Also, for even more proof that Sandra > Russell here's a breakdown of their HvV games
the max points for social game are 10, max point for strategic game is 5 and max point for physical game is 1
Sandra
Physical: 0/1
Social: 9/10
Strategic: 4/5
Total: 13/16, 81%
Russell
Physical: 0.5/1
Social: -1/10
Strategic: 5/5
Total: 4.5/16, 28%
and you know what lets throw parvati in here too
Parvati
Physical: 0.5/1
Social: 7/10
Strategic: 3/5
Total: 10.5/16, 65%
so we can really tell who the rightful winner is
That tribe just wasn't going to be tolerant of his antics, which is why he was out fast. To think, all he had to do was play a different game. Also, what matters was that they kicked him out, not what would happen going forward.
And the thing about Sandra, she plays well where it counts. Can't be bothered to convince the people you beat to reward you? Expect to get runner-up. That's all there is to it.
As for Fabio, he was friendly to boot, which is why he got the grand prize.
What he did, whatever you think of him, to go into survivor and do the things he did against all stars back to back seasons. Most players just stand there and hope and pray, and ppl call them great players. He went in there and played like no one ever has.
20 years later he's still my top 2 player until this time (only next to Boston Rob) .... the most conniving, smartest, cut throat player in the history of Survivor.....
Tony better than both of em
He literally got lucky with jerri being a complete bafoon its crazy how a couple bafoons can give this guy so much ego
Tony and Sandra are the best, Tony #1. Sandra was more passive.
@jethyy Look, Russ stated before this show that his main goal was to come in and show America how foolish he could make the supposed "All-Stars" look, in which he did spectacularly. About the pre-merge, CBS only showed 25 seconds of the 15 minute conversation they had, which involved Russell convincing Tyson to switch his vote. That takes serious social skill, and was probably the best Tribal in Survivor history. All this "would have been gone" shit is useless, he's never lost before the jury.
Everyone is just butthurt that he outsmarted them even though it’s literally called Survivor Outwit, Outplay, Outlast. I just don’t think it was really fair for people to not give credit where credit is due. In my opinion, one of the best players ever.
SpKill Maybe he shouldn’t be an asshole to the people voting for him to win a million dollars.
there was a three week gap between the end of filming of samoa and start of HvV
He didn’t go home... that’s impressive.
Wow Russell is obviously bitter. He had the same attitude when he lost in Samoa.Part of Russell's problem is that he takes the wrong people to the end. Boston Rob is also a villain he backstabs people right and left. He's also charming and charismatic. The last time he played he took two people to the end who even the most bitter jury wouldn't give a million dollars to.
Russell should have took jaison instead of Natalie. Would have won for sure
TheAnGryPOolMaN Shambo instead of Jaison. Most of Galu never did gel with Shambo, especially after the flip. Jaison did go to college to study law and is presumably a good public speaker.
Exactly. Rob is basically Russell except he actually does take huge goats to the end. Had Russell taken Jaison and Mick on Samoa, Candice and Danielle in HvV he might have won, and that would be the only way. Just like Rob's only way of winning was taking Natalie and Phillip, and unlike Russell he recognized it and did it.
Jaison was disliked and most an aggravation to people that season, he was a lazy whiner who got on everyones nerves and didnt play the game either. Even a good FTC would have done nothing for him at that point. Russell's best F3 would be Jaison and Shambo. He wins that for sure. Neither of those was ever winning. Jaison and Mick (or Shambo and Mick) might have also won it for him, but Mick would have a shot, wouldnt be as sure a win for him as Jaison and Shambo.
LilannB well Sandra for damn sure didn't deserve it
If no Jury members want to vote for you at the end of the game, that's a result of a flaw in your game, not the Jury failing at their job...this guy could use a book on self awareness
aka... trish
The show is called Survivor, not Make Friends. He outwitted, outplayed and outlasted everyone twice and was robbed twice. When the best player of the season does not win twice, there is a flaw in the game. If I was ever lucky enough to play and someone like Russel annihilated me like that, I'd vote for them twice, cause they deserve to win, you give someone credit where credit is due, whether you like them or not.
bigtomivan You still don’t get it. Part of the game of Survivor, and a major part that is, is JURY MANAGEMENT. And yes, you need to consider bitter jury in your strategy. Russell doesn’t care at all about jury management. His strategy is great only to bring him to the final tribal, not to win it. So there you go, Russell hands down deserves to lose.
It’s already 30+ Seasons of survivor. If you still don’t understand the concept of jury management, then you don’t understand Survivor.
Fadly Razali and there you have the flaw in the system, the winner is not based on who plays the best, who controls the game, who makes the best moves, it’s who pissed you off the least or who you like more. That sounds like a popularity contest, this contest is about who’s the best survivor. It’s on the fkn insignia; outwit, outplay, outlast not out jury management
bigtomivan You still don’t get it. It’s part of the game. Some, if not most of the jury are bitter and whiny, some are not (it appears to me newer players in newer Seasons are less bitter) You’re not gonna be bitter, sure. Good for you. But other players have every right to be bitter and petty. They can cast their vote however they want. You need to account for that in the game. Jeff Probst made it clear in the reunion. THAT IS PART OF SURVIVOR. YOU NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE REACTIONS OF OTHER PLAYERS. Again, repeat after me: JURY MANAGEMENT! If your strategy doesn’t include that, YOU LOSE.
Why can’t Russell fans get that in their heads?
Good interview! Russell was fired up and kept it raw and real!
Say wtf you want but this man managed to make back to back seasons with a 10 day break..imagine that! Give credit where it's due. This man accomplished something that survivors who are highly praised couldn't do..yes some won..but would they make the end again on a 10 day break
@em116 the first time she won, she flew under the radar, which is a very good strategy. no one hated her and she never got voted out. in heros vs villians, she lied to russell and told him coach wanted him out, knowing he would tell his alliance to vote out coach and keep her and courtney around a while longer. and russell totally bought it, therefore he was minipulated.
Are you kidding me? Russell is by far the greatest player. His only downfall is that the jury are the people that he outwitted, outsmarted, outplayed and in the end he took them 1 by 1 even when the numbers weren't on his side. He was the one to change the game.
And the jury was just bitter both times, and they couldn't accept that they were beaten when they were majority. Just so damn sad.
So from my understanding:
Samoa was filmed June-July 2009
Heroes v Villains was filmed August-September 2009
Meanwhile Samoas Live Finale was December 2009
Heroes v Villains Finale was May 2010
So if I'm understanding this thar means Russell played 39 days back to back with a 2 week break, then came back for two live Finale thar he then lost
Ouuuch
Just realized he did go back to back BUT the HVV players got to see the 1st 3 episodes from his first season. They didnt see the entire season but knew enough to have some idea of how he playef
Actually, Samoa was still in edit when this was filming. They didn't get to see anything (the very first season to be like this).
Russell and Parvati were so much fun.
Russel is a corporate man. That's how you become a millionaire by working for other people. He played the sly game because that's what he was brought up in.
As someone who also works in a corporate business, it's cut throat at the top, it's every man for himself. You make acquaintances with those who can put you further up the ladder, and that's exactly what Russel did.
There is no argument anyone can say to explain why he shouldn't have won. He did the most work out of everyone. His intelligence, tenacity, and social game hands down got him to the end. He was in control 95% of the time, he brought Natalie to the end. The reason she won was because she did NOTHING. She didn't manipulate anyone, she didn't lie to anyone, she didn't even win any challenges. She's not smart, she's not athletic, she was just... there when the other 2 people left on the podium had ruffled feathers. She couldn't believe it when she won it. Russel literally carved the path for her and she was behind him the whole time.
Everyone on the jury voted emotionally, and that's not how you make smart decisions. Russel got robbed twice.
The jury almost always votes emotionally. In a perfect world where the jury voted on who played the game best, Russell would’ve won. But he doesn’t play the social game, he makes the jury hate him then expects they’ll be impartial. He should’ve won, but he should’ve known he wouldn’t.
@@livm9306 I don't understand your guy's logic, literally makes no sense. You say he plays the perfect game but both times he had almost the entire tribe hating him, that is such a huge flaw in his gameplay it's obvious, and you guys even point it out, yet you still believe he should have won, even though he was not the best at playing the game like how you guys admit
@drakingson She was, she was asked to do Survivor All-Stars. Unlike Ozzy and them, she has better things to do than to depend on a show to put food on her table like some returning players.
Have you been on the island against him?
Survivor is a #popularitycontest
yes. thou shalt appeal to thy jury.
This is why Russell will always will b my favorite survivor player the way he talks and thinks Russell is the best.
How is he the best hea never won
@@NeanderthalDogma made it to the finals twice found all the hidden idols
The dude with the last name FairPlay is good. Ik this is not about him but I think it was strategic that he lied about his grandma
Can't stand when a jury is bitterand takes everything personally. Jury should always reward gameplay and Russell played a great game
There's more to playing the game than just being the best "back stabber" or "villain" like Russel. This is something he has never come to understand. In the end, you are trying to "earn" the vote of your fellow players. His only true merited title would, and should be, "the most untrustworthy, back-stabbing, evil, lying, cheating, and deceitful player of all time". It's not hard to see why no one on the jury would want to cast their vote for Russel considering the way in which he played the game. In the end, the members of the jury will cast their votes most deserving of winning. Russel's game had virtually no honor or integrity. His only merits were based upon how he arose to new levels of dishonor and lack of integrity. Why would anyone want to reward someone for playing a game that way?
Roger Crow That and a hidden immunity idol was always involved. Not the mark of the best Survivor player.
I don't think you understand that the goal is to get to the end and that the jury has an obligation to vote for the best player. Russell was by far the best player in season 20, and the jury's voting for Sandra and not him is absolutely inexcusable.
@@ronaldm.6150 You're wrong. The point of the game is to get to the end AND get the jury to vote for you (which contrary to what you just said, has no obligation. The whole point is they vote for who they want). Russell is great at part one (but not as great as people say he is - the fact that he's hated by basically every other contestant helps get him there because he makes an ideal goat) but is possibly the worst possible survivor player ever at part two which is why he's never actually won and despite what he believes, has never had any real chance of winning.
@@juliantahyar9517 No, you're wrong. The point of the game is to get to the end, if the jury isn't bitter they'll vote you to win if you were the best of the season, but Russell's juries knowingly incorrectly voting Natalie and Sandra to win. It was Russell who was the Sole Survivor of his seasons.
@@juliantahyar9517 Correct. Getting to the end is easy. But when your fellows are on the jury and each is holding a vote YOU NEED, it's getting their votes that counts. Russell thinks it's all about stealing the chickens. He can't fathom the idea that he actually has to get out of the barn before it burns down.
I love Russell he's one hell of a player for entertainment
Russel used persuasive techniques and strategies, I think he picked up a lot of things from BR - but he plays no social game, which makes it impossible for him to win. He’s just a dangerous goat. He is like a certain party in politics who are literally incapable of seeing both sides of an issue, so they 100% believe their way is the only one worth considering.
He doesn't understand the game. It's not a popular vote. You can't treat people poorly and get their vote. That's the beauty of the game.
"The Fall of Russell Hantz Part 2,: The Funny 115 v2.0. Google it, Read it.
I did :) so good, Sandra got him Changa'd
Russel had an advantage because the cast didn't get a chance to see him play in season 19.
Yep, he has zero chance now
That's not necessarily an advantage
@@BenMatthewson yea it is, Russell as a unknown was lethal, Russell as a known is out first or second tribal
@@floodwaters8887 my point wasn't for Russell's case alone it was in general, people prefer the evil they know to the unknown, therefore those players whose game is unknown could potentially be targeted first due to the fear of being unknown
@@BenMatthewson Disagree, you can fly under the radar as a unknown, Russell as a known could play the perfect game and he'll still got within 2 tribals
@icecoldbruh I understand your point but I also think it matters what people are in your jury. when Amanda lost to Parvati in all stars the jury wasn't as bitter voting for Parvati but then Russell and Boston Rob get a jury that took the game very personal.
No truer words have ever been spoken. LOL.
His frustration is hilarious to watch
Never change Russell :)
I'd like a Russell Hantz vs Rupert Boneham Survivor Game, but have them have the ability to not be voted out so soon in the game.
How was he a fan favorite?
Everybody respects his game.. how can u not?
Russell has tons of heart and grit and was one hell of a player. Love him or hate him, the fact that he did 2 seasons back to back with only 10 days in between, never quit and made it to the end in both seasons is badass. Tons of respect to this man right here, he is a legend. Him, Sandra and Parv are the best f3 of all time
The Jedi mind trick that he played on Tyson I thought was one of the all-time best moves ever. He never even asked Tyson to change is vote.
@@joncheskin in a secret scene u can see Parvati trying to work her magic on him to get him to flip his vote but Tyson said that nobody really convinced him to do it nor did he tell anyone he was going to do it, he just stupidly made a mistake on his own bc he wanted Parvati gone so that he could try and be Russell’s number 1.
If he wants to be consider the best player, he needs to admit he had a bad social game instead of calling the game flawed
A lot of times the jury voting is flawed though, when they vote with their emotions instead of logic
@@lonerebeI what do you mean by logic. of course it's part of the game to know how the jury members vote whether logically or emotionally. if it's just pure logical then the jury members aren't even needed. jury management is the most important part of survivor.
@mcif2485 i agree that players backstab and still get the win. ie Parvarti..but she backstabs and is never mean or rude in the way Russell is..there is a way to finesse the jury and your fellow players.. Russell will never win until he learns that lesson but he said he didnt care so he won't win.
I liked Russell a lot he was great
Still crying foul over his loss FOUR years after the fact? That is just sad.
And to think, he's already been proven to be a one-dimensional, overrated jury fodder. Talk about getting a life when someone needs to practice what they preach. That's disgusting.
To be fair he should of won Samoa HvV I don't know probably not
From day one Villains planned to vote Russell out. And I'm talking about the worst of worst Villains in survivor history; and the fact that he made it all the way to the top 3 kicking people off and carrying Parvati on the palm of his hand.... man, he should at least win a medal
What? Parvati was target number one the moment she stepped on the beach, I think you're misremembering the season. Parvati's name got thrown out pretty much every tribal council.
@Dallas and you wanna know how Parvati survived? Because of Russell. He gave 2 of his idols for her (One of them saved her). He chose to blindside Danielle and Jerri instead of her.
Carrying Parvati? I guess you don't understand her genius strategy. She even said it "I kept him, as my pet".
You speak so much like so many others on here. You sound just the same and yet you think you are all so different. So special. So much better than everyone else you love to denigrate. I can't help smiling a little and yet also feeling a bit sad at the same time.
@mcif2485 honestly if you look at every season of Survivor there have always bitter juries.. the jury is only considered "bitter" by the person who loses. ..the majority of the jury always vote for those who they like better (this is nothing new) For me there is only two objectives in Survivor 1- get to the end and 2- be likeable enough that the jury vote for you. I enjoy Russell as a viewer, he isn't capable of my #2 objective.
My favorite player in the history of servivor so far
I hope one day he comes back to show how much of a
good player
Threat
Idol
MVP
He was and is
He deserves to win 💯💯💯
He's great for entertainment, but lacked when it came to Jury because he showed no remorse for his bad actions. BUt yeah, it was entertaining.
Hobbits do get angry
@icecoldbruh You can also say the way sandra and parvati were edited played a role for their characters as well. Truth be told, anyway you edit it, Russell is the best player ever.
That's a totally brainless opinion.
To those of you wondering Rusell has a youtube channel and has mellowed out
the jury was so bitter but russell still bitter till this day
Can u blame him?
@@brasstacksboxing409 exactly
he lost twice with his "wonderful gameplay" but he is so intelligent that he will NOT change his mind.
Why should he. He is the fan favorite, and the 🐐.
😂😂😂
@SimplyMe2512 Colton from Survivor: One World now currently takes title as Disgusting Human Being
I love how he says Sandra is a terrible player but she's won twice and he's won how many times don't worry I'll wait
Russell is the most enjoyable thing in survivor since Yul for me......He is what a Tv show needs I have only an utmost respect for this Snake:D Everytime he found without a clue the hidden imunity I was laughing my ass of just how briliant it was....
That's what happens if you don't understand that you still have to convince the people you beat to hand you the prize and you need to look at the consequences of your gameplay.
And besides, the people only see .001% of what happens in those 39 days. The players get to see what he is like.
Word of advice: Don't be so quick in drinking that Kool-Aid.
Russell is right on the money in regards to this game. He played twice and got to the end and should have won both.... Now he is playing again in Redemption Island and he has been voted / casted to Redemption - hopefully he will get back in the game and this time get what he deserves the title of Suvivor.
If he got what he deserved, the others would beat the hell out of him and then he would be sent to prison.
I used to think he got robbed but over time came to realize maybe he should have one Samoa but most of the time people award the winner they like or respect more. If you treat people awful they will now vote you to win
russell is the person who is "good tv".... but you will never like being around
HE IS THE KING OF THE SHOW
Totally wrong.
At losing.
@icecoldbruh I know that bitter juries are nothing new. However, there are seasons where juries put personal feelings aside and say that person did play the better game. My point is that some players who back stab (Parvati) still get the win while others (rob) get the lost because of the people on the jury, which is my point.
If Russell played today and dominated like he did back in the day, he easily wins.
You can’t be an asshole to people for 39 days and expect them to give you $1 million.
He just doesn't get it.
Because he’s right, he played amazing! He was in control of the whole game!
He sounds sooo drunk
Ummmmmmm, no..
He was so lucky no one saw him play before
Why is laying low not a valid strategy? Would you all be criticizing Natalie if she had gotten even half the amount of airtime that Russell received? Alienating the jury is a poor strategy to me.