IPMI EVERYWHERE! w/The Pi-KVM
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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Laymans guide to wendell's difficulty scale: Configuring this is really easy = 2-3 weekends of tinkering. This basically configures it self /comes preconfigured = 1+ weekends of tinkering. This works straight out of the box = it works straight out of the box.
You're more correct than I want you to be, haha
wat
"now, this can get a little complicated" = will take you the entire summer
FINALLY someone covers this project instead of that project profiting off the back of this one that has done all the work.
I saw this comment at the beginning of the video and I have no idea what other product you're referring to, but now I don't want it and already like this one that much more. Thanks for the heads up :)
My biggest problem with the other project is that it wants money for https
Is that the tiny pilot thing.
what's the profiting off the back one?
Agreed. And a metal enclosure to boot. I LOVE 3d printing, but not for a multi hundred dollar part where a commercial unit is available for similar pricing.
You should consider partnering with him and integrate one of those into your KVM line.
Omg I would buy that eyes closed
One KVM to rule them all!!
You could then put something like zerotier on it. Perfect storm.
This is an amazing project, I have been using it for accessing my DVR camera system remotely for 1-1.5 years now. I know it has a security vulnerability, so this keeps it "air gaped"
IPMI sometimes provides more than just remote access: things like sensors readings, system log (ecc errors, etc), but don't think it's even possible to read those things without motherboard cooperation. But for a small home server on a desktop-ish board this box is definitely very useful.
IPMI=/=KVM
Correct. And even more than that even. A true BMC (e.g. IPMI) has both a direct connection to on-board hardware (like various LPC busses, the PCH/SoC, often an FPGA, etc) as well as itself acts as a video adapter. A lot of home labbers could probably live without some of the more advanced features? But the BMC actually acting as a low power GPU is an extremely important feature. You cannot use this pi project to remote control a system that has no GPU... Whereas that's exactly what a BMC is designed to do. And... That BMC GPU only costs a single 1x pcie lane off the SoC/PCH. So no need to waste a proper 4x/8x/16x slot just for an otherwise useless GPU.
This thing is a very cool piece of kit and absolutely perfect for a lot of home labbers and it even competes well with other iKVM products, but it does not compete, nor can it ever really, with a proper BMC/IPMI on-board solution.
@@shammyh technically, the lpc bus is often exposed as a tpm header, and the superio chip that has all the sensors tends to sit on it, and some boards do have solder pads for the i2c bus of the vrm controllers, the elmor evc overclocking board uses those, so in theory those could be all hooked up as well, but sadly they are not documented
@Austin Kelley "The Intelligent Platform Management Interface (IPMI) is a set of computer interface specifications for an autonomous computer subsystem that provides management and monitoring capabilities independently of the host system's CPU, firmware (BIOS or UEFI) and operating system."
open your eyes, there's far more out there than vastly over priced under performing industrial kit (with far more useless metal than actual usable device) that the ordinary people -that cant vat write off/reclaim the expense as a business- want to actually buy & use in home/lab...
you want sensors , its a pi , plug your $2 heat sensors etc in to a spare spi etc pi pin ,send the data to your Grafana Dashboard Setup m.ruclips.net/video/XCdl5QRyj6E/видео.html Grafana Dashboard Setup for your PLEX & NAS Novaspirit Tech
or put an inline $5 wireless esp32 between the sensors & pi-kvm.
m.ruclips.net/video/JdV4x925au0/видео.html #255 Node-Red, InfluxDB, and Grafana Tutorial on a Raspberry Pi
,Andreas Spiess
m.ruclips.net/video/_r1wN6cD32w/видео.html
Kubernetes 101 - Episode 8 - Kube, meet Raspberry Pi ,Jeff Geerling
True. But you get what you pay for. I'd guess you'd need a homebrew health-check solution for the server itself. It's better than nothing at all with a home-lab server w/o built-in IPMI, IDrac, etc..
This was pretty much the final thing that made it possible for me to move beyond the arctic circle! The thing is that my mum needs her computer(s), but she once-in-a-while has trouble that I need to go troubleshoot for her. I can give her one of these and take care of her things even from the middle of nowhere with my phone and/or a tablet! Excellent.
not moving to the bermuda triangle are you, what is beyond the arctic circle, the northpole ? ;-)
@@jyvben1520 most of the Finnish lapland, or "the best part of Finland" for me.
I have a few home made versions and I've been supporting the project. I work on equipment where the operator console is a distance away. I just hook Pi-KVM up to the console and run it all from my laptop from the same area I'm doing my repairs.
Only tech youtube channel where I actually learn and get excited about actual technology, not only the consumer side...
I love hearing really knowledgeable people say things like
"dramatically way better"
makes me feel dramatically less dumber 👍
I use a Pi Zero with Pi-KVM on it as a remotely-reprogrammable flash drive. Don't even use the keyboard/mouse functions half the time, it's just an awesome ISO selector.
I did a "build your own one" version about a month ago and I'm using it with my homeserver. I think Pi-KVM is one of the the best Pi projects I've ever seen.
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@@blicube3269 heya, RPI CM4 is an imaginary device for me at this point. :) I've never seen one and I don't think I'll ever will. Always out of stock :))
@@rootifera Which country are you in? CM4 is cheaper than RP4
@@blicube3269 it's not the price :) the availability is the issue. Out of stock everywhere, some shops says it won't be in stock before Nov2022....
The cool thing for me on this is that i can finally use off-the-shelf components and build a true server with remote KVM management, specifically with my Unraid Machine. and not have to worry about BIOS issues or managing it in person.
i dont even know what a KVM is or why i would want one
@@charlesballiet7074 Keyboard Video Mouse - it's useful for "headless" servers that don't typically have any input devices plugged in. For example my fileserver has power and ethernet plugged in. That's it. I do all my management over ssh.
But if a kernel upgrade goes wrong, or as happened recently an OS upgrade to the latest release ends up breaking the bootloader, I have to drag the thing out of the corner and dust off a monitor and keyboard and sit there poking at it locally. With KVM I can be wherever with my laptop and do all that work without having to touch the physical box.
just discovered this. instead of finding a monitor and keyboard to make a bios change i'll just install this lol.
YES! Best person for the review :D Thanks Level1Techs for all the great content.
FINALLY an IPMI that's secure enough to be accessible from the internet!!!
u srs
I love how ip-kvm is just one swapped letter away from PI-kvm
This is quite powerful! Don't want your infrastructure docker containers (DNS/VPN) to stay down while you reboot your server? Just migrate them to your new shiny IPMI!
FYI: A Kickstarter for the PiKVM V4 has just begun.
Very cool, and thanks as always Amber!
Feels like the output is more now. Could also be just my perception or YT doing things.
Maniac promoting this with the Level1 KVM being a thing.. Cannot provide enough props for this Wendell.
I'm super happy you were able to get one, been refreshing the US and worldwide sites to buy them since they got listed. have been out of stock with no change since the announcement
Approximately they will be available in two weeks
I have been using the Pi-KVM for some time now and i gotta say its a must for anybody who needs off-site monitoring
2:35 That's exactly what I have! You magician! 🎩
Ah hello IPMI ... I didn't know I needed you until work from home ended and now I'm back at work ;)
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Once it goes up for sale hopefully I will be able to pick one up. A very handy device for when there is no built in BMC.
Have been using this for the past year, breaking all sorts of IT security mandates in the process lol.
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 like always any thingy that Wendell gives his stamp of approval,
by the time video is set to public it out of stock 😁👌
The first batch hasn’t gone on sale yet, still held up in shipping.
@@brwainer ok thinks 👍 so a paper launch 🤡
but at the moment the shipping market is pain in the butt for small guys
2022 will be better,
things back to normal in 2023
IF we don't get a new SHTF moment in 2022
What would be really interesting is an add-on PCIe PiKVM solution that's internal to the rack mounted system. I would love to see that.
BliKVM have created a pcie pikvm. I think its available for pre-order nows. Check out jeff geerlings channel for info
I just got mine and got it set up really quickly for sure a great Kickstarter projekt for once!
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Wendell you are TRULY an absolute gem we're blessed to have lmao
The kit does not include the case and the lcd display. Where can I get the case?
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This is on my list, epic use of the raspberry pi
L1 is always over my head, but I keep finding solutions for things that annoy me. Keep making content.
I'm happy I supported the project.
The hardware bits you are getting don't really add up to $150 but if half is going to support an open source project, I'm fine with that.
Open Source does not mean the guy has to work for nothing. It's still insanely cheap. Similar devices in the Industrie cost 300 to 600 bucks with software only for the first year. 1k is also a common price.
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Just ordered mine today. Canada so it was $230 CDN with shipping but pretty excited to get to testing it. Likely will wonder over to the forum to figure out a few things.
Agreed! So cool!
Lmao 5:20 that's me, I have an old buggy bios server one I've controlled with a pi for like 10 years.
Use it for some weeks. Really nice.
Ok so love the video but the overhead cam was a bit annoying. Heres my dumb suggestion. Draw a box on the table where the overhead cam is looking. Keep the product in the center of that box. Never pick up the product off the table so it doesnt go out of focus.
Whaaaat? An open source project is better than similar software from the "big players" in the arena? I am shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you.
this is why i have internet , all hail our saviour wendell
It's amazing one/two persons can design an entire fucking service/hardware combo better than a billion dollar companies fleet of software developers. It's fucking sickening.
it would not be this cheap if they had designed it !
Would be all custom though could have used a cm4 module.
@@jyvben1520 BLIKVM IS A RPI Compute Module 4 IO Board for PiKVM ruclips.net/video/aehOawHklGE/видео.html
This thing is AMAZING!
Lots of cool stuff to see today. Although if your not up to speed on all things Pi you could be lost very quickly.
This is definitely Frankenstein‘s tool box! Thanks for sharing.
lost ? if a person could not understand/use this, why are they even supporting servers ?
As a tech that works for an MSP and works on some fucked up systems, I'm gonna build one of these into a Pelican case and have a built in monitor. Remotely accessible crash cart that I can plug into anything? Fuck yeah! I won't have to keep an LCD monitor and a mouse/keyboard in my truck anymore.
Eh?
Why are you not using a cheap usb HDMI capture card with your phone or tablet.
Word of warning. I noticed the CSI cable appeared to have a conductive tape/film on the outside layers. If this has been added to a standard FFC cable, beware! It totally screws up the cable impedance!! If you do this to a longer cable it will completely stop a CSI camera from functioning due to impedance mismatch!
Still not quite as good as a true BMC, but pretty crazy that it comes so very close in a platform-agnostic add-on manner. I almost want to get one just to fiddle with it... 😁
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Was hoping you'd make a video on this! I've got one sat in front of me now, one of the most exciting projects I've seen in years. What I'd love to know is if I can interface an Arduino with this for power button control, so I can control multiple devices rather than just one (also using a kvm with hotkey support). I want to remotely support four servers with this :)
I now know what I will spend my money on, when I soon work again :D
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The dislikes are from TP owners who got ripped off
No VGA? You guys must be living in the future. All the servers I work with have VGA outputs.
I really enjoyed your video. I have seen other videos on these type devices. So far I like yours the best. If I could add one suggestion it would be to call all devices by their proper names instead of 'things'. Educate and inform us. Great video. Keep up the great work.
I feel like they designed this before the compute modules released because using the RPi4 CM would've shrunk the size requirements a ton and probably would've helped make routing all the connections way easier than a hat.
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Can't send pictures if it doesn't exist as a pre-order yet. - -- a longtime backer of the project.
I would of liked a portion of the mobo header pins. i.e power off
I really like the pliers sticking out from the mug :D
Thumbs up if you noticed it too!
wish this was combined with a switch or something in order to have multiple connections to it. that'd be the dream versus the outdated Java/ActiveX IP KVMs
It is possible, they've tested many brands of KVM switches and some work with this via keystroke hotkeys (using the true HID accessory) and even GPIO manipulation.
Could this not be achieved with a pi, usb HDMI capture card and a bit of code for one hell of a lot less?
Or I could watch the whole video and realise it's far more than some hacked together things.
Should have known better this is a L1 video after all. :)
That's how I got my first version of pikvm - raspberry, usb-hdmi dongle and pikvm. You don't need the hat to run the same software as presented here, it is described on project's website how to do it, exactly as you are saying. It's actually great low cost way to try the software out if you have some raspberry lying around - those usb-hdmi dongles are like $10 or even less.
Thanks Asrock!
Seems very useful!
Wendell, I do love the idea of combining this with a switchable KVM but only having ATX control over one machine is still killer for me and many others. We'd be better off buying many of the PiKVMs. Is it possible for Level1Techs to create a model of your single monitor x 4 machine KVM with the relevant relays to switch the physical pinouts for the ATX controls between each machine when active in the PiKVM? I'm sure I can hotrod something like this together myself but I think you can sell alot of them. Imagine the ethernet (ATX control) cable from the PiKVM to the Level1KVM then just has a extra ethernet cable for the same ATX controls for each of the downstream computers.
A couple of questions: 1) it seems like the term "KVM" is overloaded. In the 80s I got a KVM where I had to wire 4 sets of keyboard video and mice cables to the back of a switch and then run a 5th set of cables to my monitor, keyboard and mouse. Y then there was a mechanical switch in the front that I would have to physically turn to the system I wanted to run. Now I'm seeing KVM switches (like the one in this video) with just output and no inputs. What is the advantage of what you have in this video over a KVM like in the old days. 2) multi monitor support. I run 2 monitors, and would like to run 3 monitors. Virtually no KVMs that I've seen have dual monitor support, why?
3) how is what you show in the video superior to just SSHing into a machine?
I wonder if they have a POE over the network, hat for this kit.
Another great PERC ('scuse the pun) of this is that it'll be easier to update the firmware on lmao... iDRAC is pure HELL to update and I ain't majorly sure about other RMIs because I only one server that has it, and that's a gen 11 DELL PowerEdge.
Dam you Wendel, It's out of stock !! did you buy everything !!
xD
The first batch hasn’t gone on sale yet, still held up in shipping.
Thanks. I looking for something like that. I wrote little script for my RPi3 to be able to power on and off remotely, but don't have keyboard emulation and screen. So, I definitely go buy one of this.
A bit ago I built my dream 486 however I always wanted to add remote management and any other modernity I could to it. Suspected RPi to be the path but didn't have a clue where to start. Im guessing that this is essentially the system Id imagined.
Where did you get the case?
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Sold out. :( At least there's a notify list though.
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Why oh why is this not called PiPMI
Nah.. It should be the IPM-Pi
Will that tiny fan actually make any meaningful difference to thermals and performance?
Surprisingly, yes, it makes a huge difference on the Pi4. Any moving air will help that hot SoC.
I got the latest PiKVM v3 preassembled but it's lacking the USB A next to the fan wonder where did they change that case...
Two concerns. Is this easy to update and maintain? I ask the the company I work for does vulnerability scans and would require the KVM to be patched. Seems like extra effort.
I see the value and I like the power on and off functionality but it look like it doesn't scale well. If I could control 5 servers that would be amazing
im sold
How does the PiKVM shows itself to the target computer device manager?
I have to point out that at the $145 price point, you can buy a used server motherboard with IPMI support for most home lab type applications. I paid $49 for a dual LGA1366 board and $20 for the IPMI card, so $69 for a server board with IPMI. The next generation Supermicro board (Sandy Bridge) have it builtin. So for $145 plus the cost of a Pi, that motherboard better be very dear to warrant $200+ for KVM support. You can buy entire Dell R710 servers for less than $200...
yeah but what if you want a server with a 5950x? i guess asrock rack has am4 boards with bmc
Who would want to remote manage 10+ year old junk hardware anyways lol?
@@NicolaiSyvertsen your comment indicates a lack of familiarity with these systems.
It is small and useful in many cicumstances. Send it to people short phone support and help them, if they dont have server hardware...
Cool stuff.
So the basic kit is $150? I don't see any options to get an upgraded kit and or the metal case. Am I missing something?
The metal case is missing in the first batch, but later you can download a free drawing of an excellent case for 3d printing on the website
Will there be an option for the metal case? Don’t mind paying extra for a nicer case.
Wendell when are you getting that risc V soc that was supposed to run linux ?
Wendel, you are THE Linux GURU. And you know hardware. with all those audio options on motherboards including Optical and HDMI I was wondering if it was possible if you are ever in the future going to build a home audio system based on a Linux audio distribution?
I've seen other people's builds in forms but they never actually go into detail on how they accomplished it and how the process actually worked out from the software configuration standpoint especially since many of these tools are in Linux.
I really want to do a software d s p that could be used in mobile applications and I was wondering if you would possibly ever do something like this in the future and make a video you want it has it really would open up the options if someone experienced tried this and was able to get it to work properly with the configuration.
with all these motherboards having really good prices and many of them basically being for under $100 and with most of the processing only being CPU bound, all those small mini PCS used in the corporate environment that usually run at around 12 volts would be a perfect addition to mini portable or car audio environments or a home environment for that matter..
would you do something with audio in the future I think that would be really cool
thanks Wendell
Cheeto fingers!
Would be fantastic if you could power via PoE and rack mount a bunch of these bad boys
Based on the documentation this is compatible with POE hats. Unfortunately they're all sold out at the moment.
Hello Everyone, I need some information on how does this Pi KVM works on the work laptop.
My work laptop is located in my house and I would like to travel out of the state without carrying a work laptop. But my office networking guys always monitor my location by checking my IP address and I cant use Team viewers or RDP or VPN routers to access my laptop due to security policies and VPN connection.
So I would like to use the PI KVM to access my work laptop remotely But I am a little afraid to do that because of the office security policy configured in my laptop.
1. I would like to know, Does my office IT security know if I connect this Pi KVM to my offie laptop?.
2. How does my work laptop recognize the Pi KVM HDMI and USB when connected to the laptop?.
3.Does my office laptop recognize the Pi KVM as a suspicious device?.
Could you please help me with my situation?
Video begins at 1:30.
Anyone knows where you can buy ATX ethernet brackets and modules? So you can use it with different pc's on the fly...
I wonder if there is some splitter for DisplayPort 1.4 with DisplayPort passthrough and HDMI out as well so I can connect it between my PC and gaming monitor, and have an HDMI cable to to the streaming PC. I use 1440p and use a 240 Hz monitor. Not sure that would even be possible 🤔
Just curious, if you have 2 normal ethernet ports can you set one to ipmi.
I'd definitely get one of these to play around with. Doesn't look like anyone with it offers shipping to Canada though.
Will be available buyapi.ca
Check the actual project site. There's a CA link. Also out of stock, but at least regional site available.
NEAT!
Haven't been able to get a Pi4 yet. Can you use the POE hat also? 🤔
Hi! Does this NEED the fan? Is there a fanless version? And how loud is it?
The problem I have with the PIKVM is that the video quality is horrendous and it is sooo slow. The mouse moves as a snails pace.
Not properly ipmi but ok. A BMC is still a lot more advanced (sensors, fan profiles, case intrusion, bios updates, serial redirect, and most important it have a GPU/display interface in it)
If Asus released the schematic of my x99 bugged BMC mobos i would had ported openbmc to them. Or at least the pinmux settings of the aspeed chip.
Is it possible that the BMC crash in a few days and I have to reset it from host via ipmi tool? Isn't that funny?
I would love to see this project merged with openbmc to have it working on a aspeed chip. But I think that aspeed iC has less processing power. That chip is behind a big NDA.
Is this really the same kit as mentioned in description? No case and no brackets are in the description from the pishop website.
The metal comes later it was too expensive lol
I have 3 people that want to connect to 3 laptops in my home, all need to be seperate(one person cannot have access to anothers laptop). If I buy 3 of these, can I connect 3 laptops to each over one network/router? Any issues with this?
So where do you find all the (ALL) components to complete this project as per instructions? Or is this a case of 'See what I can do and you can't.) I would like a unit as demonstrated in video.
Nice video one small question can i hear the audio from the source pc?
This has definitely been a missing piece for my homelab
Sick!
This things gonna kill every other IP-KVM. $150 for basically the worlds' smallest KVM that uses open standards like HTML5 and even has WebRTC support now. Kinda wish it had HDMI passtrhough for more permanent installs but. Also does the audio work when you use WebRTC? That would be a cool feature!
Sound is coming! Not so soon but it will,it's implemented in the hardware.