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PROOF the Bible Does Not Teach Creation Ex Nihilo - Neither Does 2 Maccabees

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  • Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
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    A video discussing the false teaching that God made all things "out of nothing," versus the biblical teaching God made all things "out of" himself (1 Corinthians 8:6). This video reviews how the Bible presents God creating all things, as well as how terms like "begotten," "born," "create," "creation" and other similar terms are used in the Bible.
    The pagan belief in eternal generation is also refuted using texts which make it clear God begets all things out of himself, not just his Firstborn Son.
    Finally, the video adds in some flat earth garbage for laughs, as flat earth, eternal generation, and creation ex nihilo frequently have the spiritually retarded adherents, also known as false teachers and liars. If anyone you know believes in eternal generation, creation ex nihilo, or flat earth... RUN!
    For more videos on creation in the Bible, including God the Father as the only ultimate Creator, and Jesus as his Firstborn creation, see the videos in this playlist: • Biblical Evidence the ...
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Комментарии • 26

  • @CWJahTube
    @CWJahTube  2 месяца назад +7

    I am addressing religious and scientific frauds and proven liars in this video, like those described in Galatians 1:6-9 as 'accursed perverts.' I am NOT answering someone's sincere demand of an answer like in 1 Peter 3:15. Beware of the liars whose false doctrine is destroyed in this video, because they don't understand the difference between these two texts. Here is how you "stuff false doctrine in [liar's] faces and down their throats" (how else could we non-physically "shut their mouths"?), which is why I said that very thing in my creation ex nihilo video:
    Tit 1:10 For there are many unruly men, profitless talkers, and deceivers of the mind, especially those men who adhere to the circumcision.
    Tit 1:11 It is necessary to shut the mouths of these, as these very men keep on subverting entire households by teaching things they ought not for the sake of dishonest gain.
    But, remember, those whose doctrines were ANIHILATED in my creation ex nihilo video are not capable of understanding these texts... because they are the ones whose 'mouths are being shut' with their own false doctrine.

  • @sek4110
    @sek4110 2 месяца назад +3

    Just found your channel this morning. I found this fascinating.

  • @bicsakxdavid
    @bicsakxdavid 2 месяца назад +7

    Nice video with good points! I'd also go as far as to say that creation ex nihilo is logically impossible and should be thus ruled out as a possibility to begin with. Furthermore, the consensus of the critical scholarship, if I recall correctly, is also that 2 Maccabees 7:28 does not teach creation ex nihilo, but something related to Greco-Roman philosophical framework, where basically this "creation out of things that do not exist" is said to mean "something without form and function" made into "something with form and function".
    May Jah bless you and all in the name of Jesus Christ!

  • @daviddrew3372
    @daviddrew3372 2 месяца назад +6

    Thanks for this: It is completely unnecessary to believe that the creation was XN. Wether or not this proves to be the case as God should allow us to understand it over time the reality is that we the created and finite beings that we are can absolutely revere and appreciate the power, intelligence, wisdom, and love of our creator conceptually and by exploring scientifically His works. Which He has invited us to do.

  • @Snowforest60
    @Snowforest60 Месяц назад +1

    It never made sense to me
    If nothing is the lack of ANY properties you can’t create OUT of nothing since that entails it has a property which is existence

  • @vhansworld2764
    @vhansworld2764 2 месяца назад +4

    All things were created Ex Deo (Out of God)

  • @Skulls6769
    @Skulls6769 Месяц назад +1

    I don't mean this in a mocking way, I can't stop laughing when I watch this video, it's such a passionate statement of sense, I can see why the witness want you back.

  • @michaelhaigh9182
    @michaelhaigh9182 2 месяца назад +7

    I’d like to thank you for this vidio ? Very informative and yes Jehovah as the bible says is energy ov fire 🔥 that’s why we carnt see him as we will be dead strait away

  • @everettcommodore3629
    @everettcommodore3629 2 месяца назад +7

    "OUT OF whom are ALL THINGS..."(Jesus the firsborn, then all [other] things...)1Cor. 8:6

  • @bankhead1
    @bankhead1 2 месяца назад +6

    Hello Greg!

  • @everettcommodore3629
    @everettcommodore3629 2 месяца назад +6

    Hi again Greg...👋🏽😂

  • @russellchido
    @russellchido 2 месяца назад +5

    You are right that the woman is not to be understood in any way that contradicts Genesis, the first book of Moses, the LAW that is being so valiantly upheld in this chapter: she did not have modern biological understanding, but she certainly had *Mosaic* understanding.

  • @CWJahTube
    @CWJahTube  2 месяца назад +3

    So... according to some fake Christians who watched my creation ex nihilo video think these texts:
    1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Christ as Lord in YOUR hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone that demands of YOU a reason for the hope in YOU, but doing so together with a mild temper and deep respect.
    1Pe 3:16 Hold a good conscience, so that in the particular in which YOU are spoken against they may get ashamed who are speaking slightingly of YOUR good conduct in connection with Christ.
    mean I am to be mild and respectful to false teachers and liars who are not 'demanding a reason' from me at all. I've given that to them MANY times! I'm addressing those who openly reject objective facts given IN ANSWER, many times mild and respectful, but who instead of accepting the answer reject facts and teach lies. Like these people whom Jude addresses in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MANNER than we read in 1 Peter 3:15... and for good reasons:
    Jud 1:10 Yet these [men] are speaking abusively of all the things they really do not know; but all the things that they do understand naturally like the unreasoning animals, in these things they go on corrupting themselves.
    Jud 1:11 Too bad for them, because they have gone in the path of Cain, and have rushed into the erroneous course of Ba'laam for reward, and have perished in the rebellious talk of Ko'rah!
    Jud 1:12 These are the rocks hidden below water in YOUR love feasts while they feast with YOU, shepherds that feed themselves without fear; waterless clouds carried this way and that by winds; trees in late autumn, [but] fruitless, having died twice, having been uprooted;
    Jud 1:13 wild waves of the sea that foam up their own causes for shame; stars with no set course, for which the blackness of darkness stands reserved forever.
    Jud 1:14 Yes, the seventh one [in line] from Adam, E'noch, prophesied also regarding them, when he said: "Look! Jehovah came with his holy myriads,
    Jud 1:15 to execute judgment against all, and to convict all the ungodly concerning all their ungodly deeds that they did in an ungodly way, and concerning all the shocking things that ungodly sinners spoke against him."
    Jud 1:16 These men are murmurers, complainers about their lot in life, proceeding according to their own desires, and their mouths speak swelling things, while they are admiring personalities for the sake of [their own] benefit.
    Jud 1:17 As for YOU, beloved ones, call to mind the sayings that have been previously spoken by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ,
    Jud 1:18 how they used to say to YOU: "In the last time there will be ridiculers, proceeding according to their own desires for ungodly things."
    Jud 1:19 These are the ones that make separations, animalistic [men], not having spirituality.
    If you think the above words are 'mild and respectful,' you're stupid, just like Proverbs teaches in numerous other texts.
    Be careful of those who misuse 1 Peter 3:15 to avoid being exposed as liars and false teachers everyone. They don't have anything left to do, so let's try to be understanding. But treat them like Jude, because these people are in NO WAY like those described in 1 Peter 3:15. But since it's the dummies making this false application, the very same dummies who teach all that false doctrine that just got hammered into oblivion, expect it. Reject it. Let them choke on their perverted use of texts which ultimately they use to condemn themselves.--Matthew 7:1.

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  2 месяца назад +5

      Also, if you think rightly calling someone who lies repeatedly a spiritual bastard is wrong, here Paul calls those who teach a false doctrine (lies) "accursed." What would you rather be called? A spiritual bastard, or accursed? Exactly. Stop the hypocrisy where it concerns Christians rightly addressing, not those who "demand an answer" (1 Peter 3:15), but those who openly and who stubbornly teach demonstrable / demonstrated lies about the Bible's teachings:
      Gal 1:6 I marvel that YOU are being so quickly removed from the One who called YOU with Christ's undeserved kindness over to another sort of good news.
      Gal 1:7 But it is not another; only there are certain ones who are causing YOU trouble and wanting to pervert the good news about the Christ.
      Gal 1:8 However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to YOU as good news something beyond what we declared to YOU as good news, let him be accursed.
      Gal 1:9 As we have said above, I also now say again, Whoever it is that is declaring to YOU as good news something beyond what YOU accepted, let him be accursed.

  • @john211murphy
    @john211murphy 2 месяца назад +1

    Guess what Xtians, Neither does "The Big Bang".

  • @CWJahTube
    @CWJahTube  2 месяца назад +4

    Here is how you "stuff false doctrine in [liar's] faces and down their throats" (how else could we non-physically 'shut their mouths'?), which is why I said that very thing in my creation ex nihilo video:
    Tit 1:10 For there are many unruly men, profitless talkers, and deceivers of the mind, especially those men who adhere to the circumcision.
    Tit 1:11 It is necessary to shut the mouths of these, as these very men keep on subverting entire households by teaching things they ought not for the sake of dishonest gain.
    But, remember, those whose doctrines were ANIHILATED in my creation ex nihilo video are not capable of understanding these texts... because they are the ones whose 'mouths are being shut' with their own false doctrine.

  • @jacobninjaman1751
    @jacobninjaman1751 2 месяца назад +1

    Quick question. Who created the something that God used to make the other somethings from?

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  2 месяца назад +7

      Watch the video. Answered all throughout. It's his eternal being. God created directly from it.

    • @pretzelogic2689
      @pretzelogic2689 2 месяца назад +1

      Holy Depot. He's got an account.

    • @jacobninjaman1751
      @jacobninjaman1751 2 месяца назад

      @@CWJahTube Sounds like a distinction without a difference.

    • @jacobninjaman1751
      @jacobninjaman1751 2 месяца назад +1

      @@pretzelogic2689 That made me laugh. I'm using that one in the future. LOL

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  2 месяца назад +2

      @jacobninjaman1751 Nope. You just don't understand the assumption in or the implication of your own question, namely, the "something" God uses to make everything was "created," as you wrote. Clearly, you also did not watch the video, and now I'm not even sure you read my reply here. If you did either one, you'd never have asked such a question. But you did so...