Kumena Tyrant of Orazca Commander Deck Tech

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  • Опубликовано: 6 янв 2025

Комментарии • 131

  • @ThaMobstarr
    @ThaMobstarr 2 года назад

    I love that you took the time at the start of the video to go through the mindset and general strategy, when playing with Kumena at the helm!

  • @Chidori599
    @Chidori599 7 лет назад +11

    Something Jimmy did and I personally did in my own deck is I messed around with some of the explore cards. Merfolk Branchwalker and Path of Discovery. Giving free counters or land draws always felt good in this deck. And slyvan scrying to make sure I got reliquary tower early.

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад +2

      He got a crazy engine going. I think green card draw is one of the most fun, certainly convoluted but way better than just "draw a card" amiright?

  • @Mattismen
    @Mattismen 7 лет назад +56

    What am I going to do with all this mana, you ask? Hyrdas. The answer is always hydras.

    • @leviv168
      @leviv168 7 лет назад

      mattismen yes. Yesyesyes. I love hydras

    • @PerfectPencil
      @PerfectPencil 7 лет назад +2

      I did clones. Rite of Replication, spitting image etc etc. I'll just clone your Hydra!

    • @christinabutterfield1801
      @christinabutterfield1801 7 лет назад

      PerfectPencil and it'll come in as a 0/0 because it has an X cost. Lol

    • @PerfectPencil
      @PerfectPencil 7 лет назад +1

      Not all Hydras at 0/0s.

    • @christinabutterfield1801
      @christinabutterfield1801 7 лет назад

      PerfectPencil most do

  • @mcclussy552
    @mcclussy552 5 лет назад +7

    I know voltron is not the strongest path with Kumena, but I need to be able to 21 someone saying "Murmaider, Murmaider, Murmaider, Murmaider..." to be able to say that my MTG experience is truly fulfilling. \m/

  • @oqihouqiop
    @oqihouqiop 6 лет назад +6

    You're missing out on cold eye Selkie! 1/1 islandwalk for 3 cmc and you draw cards equal to the amount of damage you deal

  • @OblivionKisame
    @OblivionKisame 7 лет назад

    I did the same thing with the merfolk deck from merfolk vs goblins and took it and the merfolk from one the more recent commander decks that had merfolk in them. This is why I love prebuilt mtg decks wether it's a intro deck, commander deck or vs deck or what ever the case I love taking them and building them into something better while still using the the base of what the deck is supposed to do.

  • @MattGoodreau
    @MattGoodreau 7 лет назад

    Hey Jumbo!! Glad to see you took my advice!! Lol this was the exact deck I suggested you build on your last mermaid tribal video. As you were listing off the cards I was like "yes, got it....yes, got it, etc." Your deck list is like 90% the same as mine. ;) good job breaking it down. Also, I like the include of cauldron.

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад

      I think there will be A LOT of overlap with this commander ... cause ... well, merfolk

  • @ninjafished
    @ninjafished 7 лет назад

    I really like that you and I evaulate and build in similar ways. I found some great synergy between merrow reejery and kindred discovery. Untapping lands drawing cards feels great. Also i think retreat to coralhelm is an over looked gem. Untapping is obviously good, but so is scrying when you're getting flooded. Also nice to crack a fetch and tap down a threat. Goes amazingly well with harvest season... Tap all your merfs, put lands in, untap them all. Feels good. and speaking of good I enjoyed this video so keep it up my man

  • @jamesbuntain4772
    @jamesbuntain4772 7 лет назад

    love the vid, another sneaky way to win, is if you have a lord of atlantis or master of pearl trident, you can slam down a stormtide leviathan. Literally give your board islandwalk, lock anyone out that cant get through their flooded lands, then smack em with fish army

  • @anthonydelfino6171
    @anthonydelfino6171 7 лет назад +1

    I had Throne of the God Pharaoh in Kumena initially and very quickly removed it from the deck. Even running all the untap every turn effects (except Seedborn Muse) I just found I wasn't untapping my creatures on opponents turns often enough to justify leaving all my merfolk tapped at the end of my turn for a little extra damage.
    Also, similarly to Swift Warden, I really like Vodalian Illusionist for single-target protection, plus with the up-side of being able to do things like phasing out another player's commander denying them access for a round.

  • @redundancycheck
    @redundancycheck 7 лет назад +6

    Kinda sad how they chose to discontinue the duel decks. Inspired me to make both Goblin and Merfolk EDH decks. The value (Krenko, Merrow Reejery, etc) is insane. I'll miss duel decks because I love breaking them down.

    • @dngerouds
      @dngerouds 7 лет назад +1

      redundancycheck My words. Merrow Reejery wins me games.

  • @brocpage4204
    @brocpage4204 7 лет назад +1

    I have been messing around with Kumena for a little bit. I've been a UG merfolk player isnce Thrasios. I ended up putting the 5 swords in the deck with True-Name for some extra value. Alongside Craterhoof, Pathbreaker, and Thunderfoot Baloth.
    One thing I'd like to note, don't underestimate Kumena's draw ability. A Cryptbreaker in the command zone is super powerful. I ended up cutting a lot of my big draw spells in favor of smaller cantrips to fix my draws.

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад

      Sounds like you made a pretty aggressive deck ... so fun

  • @kapittsalt
    @kapittsalt 7 лет назад +1

    Learn something in every epi. Asante.

  • @BOBSMITH-YouTubeStoleMyHandle
    @BOBSMITH-YouTubeStoleMyHandle 4 года назад

    What do you guys think about doing an update to this Tech with the new Merfolk like Hullbreacher and Thieving Skydiver?? Great video!!

  • @adambarkman1326
    @adambarkman1326 5 лет назад

    I think one of the best synergies with the Islandwalk strategy is Stormtide Leviathan, provides an easy way through with all your Islandwalk Merfolk and hurts the opponents ability to attack.

  • @KeiruKeiru
    @KeiruKeiru 7 лет назад +5

    A thought occurs. If you have a Myr Battlesphere enter with Arcane Adaptation on the battlefield, you make a bunch of myr-folk.

  • @oom-3262
    @oom-3262 7 лет назад +9

    I have to use kumena for a simic deck with no merfolks.
    Just to see the faces.

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад +6

      Everyone laughs and ignores you then BAM Arcane Adaptation!

    • @felixbillington6151
      @felixbillington6151 7 лет назад +1

      God I would wet myself at the table 😂😂

  • @wasf8569
    @wasf8569 7 лет назад

    How about Intruder Alarm and Presence of Gond? In my tests it allows me to buy my entire deck, play everything (if you have Cryptolith rite) and assuring my victory. I'm really loving Kumena's deck.

  • @DrukenReaps
    @DrukenReaps 7 лет назад +4

    This might be one of your best videos when you talk about how zendikar resurgent may not belong here. I see people run good cards in decks that don't want that card or can't use the card all the time. I try to tell people that "staples" don't always go in every deck but it can be tough to get this through to them....

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад +1

      I'm glad you liked that. This deck tech really didn't cover much new territory. At first, I felt like it was boring but I realized that it didn't have to be really unique if I just share some theory behind why certain cards work.

  • @samuelmitchell9799
    @samuelmitchell9799 4 года назад

    Question about character interaction here: when cards say "merfolk you control get +1/+1", do those count as counters? because its not adding a counter like Kumena's ability, they just get that from being a merfolk

  • @travisbecker4948
    @travisbecker4948 3 года назад

    Hi DJ! Thank you for this. I've been muddling through trying to work up a Merfolk +1/+1 EDH deck and this just answered all my questions...
    ...Except one: where do you get all the background Undersea and Merfolk images from?? I want to combine all of them and make the collection my screen saver at work. You rock and keep the budget decks coming!!

  • @TheRadaR581
    @TheRadaR581 7 лет назад

    Just played a version of this deck last night for a game of Emperor. Ended the game by going off with Cryptolith Rite, Intruder Alarm, and Kumena. My deck has now been named Crypto-Fish.

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад +1

      Nice! Intruder alarm scares me, but this deck clearly takes far more advantage of its effect than most decks

  • @leviv168
    @leviv168 7 лет назад +4

    Hey Jumbo can you do a Keranos god of the storm deck tech? I just built a extreme budget one (I only bought a reliquary tower) and I was wondering if you could do one so I could see other ideas for it. Keep up the great videos man I love them!

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад

      I had an idea for a Keranos deck ... but it was stax-y and grindy and mean, and not budget. What were you thinking?

    • @leviv168
      @leviv168 7 лет назад

      Jumbo Commander mine is just a ton of card draw and counters with a some creatures/enchantment that play off cards. I can get a list posted on tapped out over the weekend and link it if you would like. Its just stuff I had laying around

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад

      I always love lists, although I have so SO many logged you don't need to rush it

    • @leviv168
      @leviv168 7 лет назад

      Jumbo Commander alright cool. I really appreciate your interest but it really is nothing special. I'll link it to this comment thread sometime in the near future

    • @leviv168
      @leviv168 7 лет назад

      tappedout.net/mtg-decks/keranos-for-jumbo/
      here is a link to the deck on tapped out :)

  • @ericwilliamson5548
    @ericwilliamson5548 7 лет назад

    Building for the Wifey currently! Great video!

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад +1

      You are a good husband

    • @dngerouds
      @dngerouds 7 лет назад +1

      Eric Williamson merrow reejerey + cost reduction (heralds horn) + Somerwald sage / mana doubler = play a merfolk, untap the sage, float mana, play a merfolk, untap sage, play kumena, untap sage, draw a card, proceed to deck out and win with a merfolk paradox engine.

  • @brandoncreek5709
    @brandoncreek5709 5 лет назад

    Just finished building Kumena and I'm glad to say I finally have a blue deck! Lol

  • @KeiruKeiru
    @KeiruKeiru 7 лет назад

    On the budget merfolk video, I commented about building a Zur merfolk tribal deck. I put the deck together and played it against my friend's Kumena deck leading to one of the jankiest wins in my commander career. On my side of the board is Zur plus a couple of 1/1's. My opponent has just swung with all his creatures and is positioned to KO me next turn. Unbeknownst to him, I have Mirrorweave in my hand. I turn all my creature sideways and cast Mirrorweave, targeting the Wanderwine Prophets that he just happened to have on the battlefield.
    The inclusions of Mirrorweave and Mirror Entity are what really drive me towards having white in the deck. I'm waiting for the day when I can Mirrorweave a Lord of Atlantis and make the board a mathematical nightmare.

  • @metalsabatico
    @metalsabatico 7 лет назад +2

    Zendikar Resurgent is great because it easily lets you rebuild your board. You got boardwiped? "I'll tap a land cast a merfolk and draw a card. I drew a merfolk so I do the same again. Then I'll recast my commander and now I have three merfolk and I'll draw another card before my next turn." I could easily go like that.

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад

      It could. I think that a lot of these card choices depend on your metagame

    • @metalsabatico
      @metalsabatico 7 лет назад

      Jumbo Commander Right. Anyways, great video, as always.

    • @dngerouds
      @dngerouds 7 лет назад

      metalsabatico Dont worry. Add a somerwald sage, as you will add merrow reejerey anyways (also works with Nyktos shrine of nyx, any 2+ manarock and cost reduction) and proceed to have a merfolk mini paradox engine.

  • @TheMystcast
    @TheMystcast 7 лет назад

    Literally 4c merfolk was my original idea. However after playtesting it does not work well. We dont have the synergy there with the cards. Sadly. However Kumena at the helm and your 99 focus on unblockable and athem affects with a bunch of draw power engines. You are asking for a tier 1. deck cost about 600 USD.

  • @psychosugar3320
    @psychosugar3320 7 лет назад +2

    This is really well timed for me, I just got kumena for $19

    • @ForeverLaxx
      @ForeverLaxx 7 лет назад +2

      You paid 18 dollars too many.

    • @psychosugar3320
      @psychosugar3320 7 лет назад

      ForeverLaxx lol I hope not

    • @ForeverLaxx
      @ForeverLaxx 7 лет назад

      +Psycho Sugar
      Kumena is jank. You paid for the hype. Sorry.

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад +2

      When standard overlaps with EDH we have to pay for time. We all know that these cards will bottom out at rotation but if I wanna play I'm going to have to wade through standard fiances.

  • @COOPALOOPTROOPA
    @COOPALOOPTROOPA 4 года назад

    WHAT IF YOU MADE AN ATRAXA MERFOLK DECK ?

  • @felixbillington6151
    @felixbillington6151 7 лет назад

    I really like card draw. I have a Damia, sage of stone deck just for that.

  • @kozad86
    @kozad86 7 лет назад +4

    Please do a Azor, the Lawbringer tech. 🙃

    • @MattGoodreau
      @MattGoodreau 7 лет назад

      Richard Landgren agreed!! I feel like he's got a lot of potential. Idk about sphinx tribal though.....but maybe it could be good.

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад

      I started but then he gave me some trouble but I think that I will work through it and get you all something!

  • @tornadojoe87
    @tornadojoe87 5 лет назад

    just started watching this vid.. i wonder if theres any merfolk token creators to maybe throw in some doublers for those +1 counters ;)

  • @smargio
    @smargio 7 лет назад

    My friend will be pleased

  • @zumbiebunny
    @zumbiebunny 7 лет назад

    it can be endless with Arcane Adaptation,Amoeboid Changeling,Unnatural Selection , even chameleon colossus could be fun

  • @Zyonide
    @Zyonide 7 лет назад

    great deck

  • @dam49365
    @dam49365 5 лет назад

    Use the enchantment that turn all creatures to a chosen type

  • @primalchaotix3715
    @primalchaotix3715 7 лет назад

    I want a commander deck with hydras If you can make one

  • @jmobley6
    @jmobley6 7 лет назад

    I’m guessing since this is a tribal deck you’d toss in Path of Ancestry?

  • @jamezdizzle23
    @jamezdizzle23 7 лет назад

    I know it is not a merfolk but as far as finishers go you got to include craterhoof right?

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад +1

      Hoof is pretty insane. I think I included triumph of the hordes.

    • @jamezdizzle23
      @jamezdizzle23 7 лет назад

      Jumbo Commander , I wish I would have thought of that. Unlockable infect is hilarious.

  • @halopgriffon
    @halopgriffon 7 лет назад

    Thanks for the deck tech! I opened Kumena from my reward packs from the pre-release and have started to build a deck around him. This video certainly gave me some ideas to pick from.
    How do you feel about putting Deepchannel Mentor or Craterhoof Behemoth in the deck? Craterhoof has won me too many games to count. I feel he would be a good addition to the deck, even if he's not a merfolk. Also, would Arcane Adaptation be too much of a do-nothing card for the deck? I'm trying it out right now but haven't had a chance to play it too often. I also currently run Coat of Arms because not many people in my group play tribal, but I have not had a chance to play it yet.
    Thanks again :)

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад

      Hoof has probably won me more games than any other card.

  • @georgezamyatin
    @georgezamyatin 6 лет назад

    Hey DJ! Loved you on command zone. Would a doubling season be worth it in this deck?

    • @delituna8381
      @delituna8381 5 лет назад

      I'm currently made a kumena EDH deck and yes it would be good with the many new cards to come out with the ravnica sets like simic ascendancy, deeproot waters, frilled mystic and more I also took apart a atraxa pre con to add more cards to focus on +1/+1 unblockable Merfolk I also use kiora crashing wave with many cards that just double counters to get instant emblem and star pumping out 9/9 krakens. Doubling season is a great card for this

  • @legiterategaming1868
    @legiterategaming1868 7 лет назад

    no cauldron of souls in the deck list ?

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад

      No, I left it out even though I really like the card. I think it's too expensive ... but I could be wrong. If I was playing this deck personally I would find room.

  • @YT747
    @YT747 7 лет назад +24

    I find this decktech to be a bit suspicious and... *fishy* . ...I'll show myself out. =P

  • @lukasbubliauskas
    @lukasbubliauskas 6 лет назад

    Add Deeproot Waters! Your board will get HUGE with that spell!

  • @Super123were
    @Super123were 7 лет назад

    Can we have a Naya Dino tech please!!!!

  • @starsam4411
    @starsam4411 7 лет назад

    Please do a deck tech on Azor!!

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад +1

      I started off but had trouble finishing. I'm hoping that the sphinx gives me a revelation.

    • @starsam4411
      @starsam4411 7 лет назад

      Jumbo Commander I agree it’s tricky cause there are a couple ways you can go. I’d love to see your take on it as I have built your Locust God deck and love it!!!

    • @adamloomos
      @adamloomos 7 лет назад

      Jumbo Commander I’ve been brewing an Azor theme deck. Load it up with Azorius flavor cards: Supreme Verdict, Azorius Charm, Render Silent, Lavinia, etc. Supplement with additional law and order themed cards like Authority of the Consuls just so we don’t get desperate and play anything with an Azorius watermark

  • @homebrewhorus7110
    @homebrewhorus7110 7 лет назад

    Do a white commander that has sunmare that would be great

  • @ChillyJack
    @ChillyJack 7 лет назад +2

    Harvest Season is nice for late game deck thinning so the rest of your draws for the game are probably gas.

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад +1

      It also must be so satisfying to cast that for 10 lands

    • @shoroku1101
      @shoroku1101 6 лет назад

      I’ve also found that in my play group having lots of mana to throw a crap load of gas out ALL AT ONCE is how you win mostly.

  • @ClubbingSealCub
    @ClubbingSealCub 7 лет назад

    I'm not a big fan of the card, but at least Merfolks won't have to restort to Derevi now.

  • @GoblinmasterYT
    @GoblinmasterYT 7 лет назад +3

    Curse of the bounty boi!

  • @SacredCharizard
    @SacredCharizard 7 лет назад

    Merfolk is a tempo deck in modern, not an agro deck.

  • @ShifuDaxiongmao
    @ShifuDaxiongmao 7 лет назад

    Friendly advice: Opposition WILL make you a primary target in your game, unless you're delaying something very powerful from another player.

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад

      It is unlikely that opposition can win you a game if you become focused. This card is very political and shutting down the best creature of each opponent is not the way to do it. I would focus on doing favors and disrupting a single player.

  • @KBgamer2010
    @KBgamer2010 7 лет назад +1

    Can't run the classic persist cards unless you run Xenograft or Arcane Adaptation...play one or the other name merfolk and bam....your persist guys are now merfolk

    • @PerfectPencil
      @PerfectPencil 7 лет назад

      This might be the first convincing argument I've seen for running Arcane Adaptation. I guess the only downside is you have to actually pull it to get all the benefit.

    • @KBgamer2010
      @KBgamer2010 7 лет назад

      Hey to be fair, I run either of those or Conspiracy when I'm running a tribal deck, cards that aren't supported by the tribe but would be amazing if they were...
      Conspiracy = Replaces creature types in play, hand, deck, and grave with chosen creature type
      Xenograft = Adds chosen creature type to creatures in play
      Arcane Adaptation = Adds chosen creature type to creatures in play, hand, deck, and grave
      like for example, (Using my Ally deck for the following examples)
      Turntimber Ranger with its wolf tokens when an ally enters the battlefield, one of those 3 cards added into the mix and bam, infinite ally/wolf tokens...
      Restoration Angel + Panharmonicon + General Tazeri? Play Conspiracy and bam, infinite ally tutors....
      Need to get those good non-ally combo creatures? Play Arcane Adaptation and then play General Tazari and bam you can now tutor for ANY of your creatures
      unfortunately Arcane Adaptation and Xenograft can't get the same explosive effects as Conspiracy, but they can fill in the roles if the deck runs blue and not black

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад

      It's a combo!

    • @KBgamer2010
      @KBgamer2010 7 лет назад

      Besides,
      Who wouldn't want a Dragon Lair Spider that makes 1/1 Green Ally tokens when an opponent cast a spell?
      Or a Brago who can trigger any ally?
      Or one of my favorites, Endrik Sahr making 1/1 black Ally tokens that use to be Thrulls?

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 7 лет назад

      Problem I see with running those to ensure a tribal theme is that the two cards have to see each other, and with the lack of tutors for enchantments in these colors, its unlikely.

  • @homebrewhorus7110
    @homebrewhorus7110 7 лет назад

    I wish i had a cardbthat could be commander

  • @JackEpoch
    @JackEpoch 5 лет назад

    Ok yeah i get you when you said not budget..... over $1000 on card kingdom

  • @joshvmcconnell
    @joshvmcconnell 2 года назад

    Quick reminder that paradox engine is banned in commander.

    • @Renegadetothe64th
      @Renegadetothe64th Год назад

      Paradox Engine was so good in this deck before it got banned. But Intruder Alarm is also a good replacement.

  • @homebrewhorus7110
    @homebrewhorus7110 7 лет назад

    Anyone here got anthousa and not using her

    • @adamloomos
      @adamloomos 7 лет назад

      Pulled two copies from my Theros fat pack. Ugh.

    • @homebrewhorus7110
      @homebrewhorus7110 7 лет назад

      Adam Loomos i actually want her can you send them to me

  • @pagodapapi8547
    @pagodapapi8547 7 лет назад

    Yoooooo!!!!! It worked hahaha!!!

  • @EMPCraft
    @EMPCraft 7 лет назад

    I actually Liked merfolk, nur now everyone is hyped for IT in Every Format and IT annoys me so hard that even RUclipsrs Push For that so hard. Just stupid merfolk now

  • @88Hyo
    @88Hyo 7 лет назад +1

    Tishana > kumena

    • @PerfectPencil
      @PerfectPencil 7 лет назад +1

      Tishana is great in the 99. You have to have the team out already to get the most out of her, while Kumena only requires you to have 2 other merfolk out before his draw engine can start.

    • @tishmarie4143
      @tishmarie4143 6 лет назад +1

      I've been thinking about using Tishana as my commander but I like kumena for sure,still building it tho.

  • @Draco9909
    @Draco9909 5 лет назад

    Heh lol bye paradox engine

  • @monster2slayer
    @monster2slayer 7 лет назад

    never liked merfolk.

    • @JumboCommander
      @JumboCommander  7 лет назад +7

      Darling, it's better down where it's wetter, take it from me

    • @monster2slayer
      @monster2slayer 7 лет назад

      Jumbo Commander im more the sandpaper and blood kind of guy. i like sen triplets and the scorpion god :-]