Oh my goodness, why so many haters on here? Yes the guy may be a bit different from other Luthiers, doesn't mean he can't go fishing, hang out with his "lovely wife" and charge 35K for his guitars - that's up to him and good on him. Certainly does not make him an "asshole"! Oh boy, there are some horrible people around!
In all fairness to Steve, he has branched out in experimentation with different designs that have potential to grab the interest of players, for their needs. I started out with a lot of different masters designs and didn't settle into my real preferences until 25 years down the road. The fact that Steve is trying different models, will put him in a place that will give better focus on which-ever designs he chooses to stay with in the future. So Steve has an excitement about his craft that will outlast many ups and downs with a guitar maker's life's pursuit. We all have to admit that this craft is a lovely pursuit.
Very nice film documentary on guitar maker Stephen Connor. I met Stephen many years ago when he lived in Waltham, MA. Nice young man and very good guitar maker. I am so glad that he moved to Cape Cod and that he is experiencing much success there for his beautiful classical guitars.
Played Alembic Series II in ninety's, great sounding and great looking bass, but heavy. Played couple of times Renaissance RB 4, soft and wiggly strings, but great sound ! Mr. Tuner is institution of turning wood into a sound and music ! Thank you....
This guitar tour was like being with Andrew Sagovia in Madrid Spain with the Legendary Great est Luthier, Antonio Torres. The Sound and the Artistry captures the magnificent Golden era the Romantic Sound that only the great Luthiers can create when building the guitar. The Guitar is a universe on it's own Evolution, from the wood to the polish to the interior and exterior, to the Machine tuners, to the strings,and final construction the completion
Steve Connor has created an artistic, creative, fun, rewarding and financially successful life. Kudos! I just finished my first complete guitar build and, though, it is lovely to look at and wonderful to play, it is not nearly in the same league as a Connor. I wonder how many guitars he has built since 2009? What a treat to see and hear his story.
Very interesting! Kudos to Mr. Connor for being such a laid back guy. This video showed at least 100 processes that would've frustrated me to the point of blinding rage!
а для чего вы оставляете такие огромные потеки клея внутри гитары? Клеевые кляксы и капли делают лучше акустику гитары за счет отражений и интерференции звука?
What an awesome video. Thank you for sharing it. I saw this video a few years ago. I joined your channel. But I never received any more videos. Do you still post videos? Also. What kind of glue do you use? I hope you will post more videos.
Wow. A lotta haters on this page. His guitar sounds great - they're always out of tune when first strung. If he can get $30k for a guitar, good luck to him - Braz Rosewd maybe? The guitar build looks detailed and well executed. The big question regards the absence of a heel where the neck joins the body. Seems a much simpler process with, possibly, more predictable results re neck angle. Got me thinking, for sure.
He does nothing of the sort, and if he did, such frequency would changed in the completed instrument. He admitted he is guided more by intuition, than science, and the science he does mention are just fluff and puff buzz words, like fractals. Does he even know the fractal equation?
@@NeverTalkToCops1 The lattice bracing in the video is somewhat fractal, in fact there are some main struts that are bigger than the struts between them, and he could have made a third series of even smaller struts to put between the second ones. It's very easy to produce fractal structures, even if you don't know the equations. The point is whether using fractals gives good results in guitar making. Does a too dense lattice structure make a better sounding guitar? They say that it is better to put as little bracing as possible. The secret to make good guitars is to tap tune the top properly, whatever the bracing system, not to invent weird bracings because you can't make good guitars with the standard ones.
@@NeverTalkToCops1 I agree. I would rather have a guitar built by someone who believes in physics, than whatever just comes to mind. Kind of a rookie and lazy way to build.
R. Cumpiano, "Guitarmaking: Tradition and Technology", Chronicle Books Complete description of the making of both traditional acoustic and classical guitars.
The book by Trevor Gore and Gerard Gilet are something you should not miss "The contemporary Acoustic Guitar". Trevor is a Mechanical Engineer and the books are far beyond a PhD in research and analysis
How much do you think a good violin or cello for student in a conservatory will cost ? He is talking about serious students. However there are good handmade instruments for half of that. There are students and there are students.
We applaud your experimentation! I don't think any of those bracing patterns fall out of fractal geometry. Perhaps you collected data on the performance of these bracing patterns, if not, all your work is lost, save for something you discovered by chance and remembered. It is likely you did not discover anything worthwhile, as the guitar building world is not recommending your methods.
As north americas finest poet /musician and painter said-- iF YOU THROW SAND at an oyster ..you get pearls ...BUT if you throw sand at a man you only get ULCERS.
guitar way out of tune at 4:40. :( Rest of the video they are just incredible. Very sweet voices on these. Your business philosophy is similar to Steve Jobs. He went to India when he was young.
An $8,000 guitar is not a student model. That's something a talented guitarist might save up for over a fairly long period of time before before being able to buy. I live in Sonoma County and I'm surrounded by Luthiers. Do their guitars cost a pretty penny? Yes. $8,000 is is in the middle to upper range for a luthier of note, and sometimes you'll see people asking $12,000 - $15,000 for really special guitars. I've never even heard of this guy. He seems like a real asshole, and his work is creative, yet average. Even if I could afford it, I wouldn't buy a guitar from him. To put it in his words, it's because, of "ethics." And just as a little note - This guy has the nerve to say that he invented the side port? WTF
He seems pretentious. He also seems like he inherited money to begin with; I know a lot of the top luthiers in my area which is considered the guitar mecca of the world, and I've never heard his name, not once. It doesn't make sense. He's selling student models for $8,000? Who is he selling to? Probably friends of his parents who are probably filthy rich, thinking he can just start at the top if he slaps a certain price tag on his instruments. Look at the top music schools in the country... How much do you think those guitarists are spending on their guitars? The answer is between $800 - $2,500 and those are guys that technically aren't beginners but students. Now look at the professional industry. The only people paying this much for guitars are the top of the top when it comes to live classical performance, and again, I've never even heard his name. I smell a trust fund baby. Just calling it now.
Yeah...he was exaggerating of his valuable guitars valued at $8,000 to $30K. I never hear of his name in the luthier world. Even Jose Ramirez top model guitar sold for $20K . Who is Steve Connor? IS he build better guitar than Jose Ramirez or Antonio Torres? I would love to buy an original A. Torres guitar for $30K
You can actually buy a hand crafted guitars at low end Price ($1,000 - $3,000 only ) and you all check this amazing value classical guitars made by Luca Waldner (based in Italy) and his website is www.lucawaldner.com/. He made 2 models; : Almedina and Almedina Limited Edition model. Go to his website to check this amazing guitars.
He is quite a well regarded luthier. Eliot Fisk, David Tannenboum, Odair Assad all play his instruments in concert as did Ernesto Tamoy before he died.
Over priced. Look at all the great makers and you can find classics for 8k that'll get get you in the concert hall. Classic Hausers are 35k to 100k or Fredirich, Damman etc. You can get a newer Romanillos for 34k if you're lucky enough to find one.
If I should try to make a guitar, I'd probably make a shitty one. I won't let that stop me, however--after all why shouldn't a shitty guitarist make himself a shitty guitar if he want to?
Love your Movie and work , some time ago I shot a film about a Luthier in our outback town in Australia , if you like please Google : Comboyne Luthier Kind Regards
That is a very good indian rosewood ... but Guitars souldnt be paint in the inside .... i would not buy a acustic guitar that was painted in the inside, because it takes wall the sount profundity of the tone´s guitar .. the rest of the work I think is perfect!
It's shellac, not paint, and some of the greatest luthiers of all time, such as I Fleta, did it. It is for aesthetic reasons and because helps the timber handle changes in humidity.
Steve Connor's guitars are NOT worth anywhere near $8k. A real maker like Petros Guitars - I can totally understand them being at $8k or more due to their EXTREME attention to detail on all their models. Steve sounds like a trust fund baby in the way he talks about money which it seems he really doesnt know the value of a dollar.
wow. so much bullshit. I am a luthier myself, properly learned my trade and finished my 3 year degree in germany with an exam in front of the chamber of crafts. I know many colleagues of mine that will do work of equal or better quality for far less. 8000-35000 is as overpriced as it gets. Sorry, thats the truth. And its not even like he is doing any special kind of decorations that would justify the price. The models that are shown here are built very simply - this does not matter in the end result but you can see he even does all the connections sloppily to save time. thats fine but it won't justify the price.
Wood isn't that expensive. Master grade cedar, spruce, koa, and other back/sides woods would cost about $500 per guitar, on the high side, for the GOOD stuff.
boblob2003 even with Brazilian rosewood, alpine spruce, cuban mahogany for neck, ebony for board and bridge Adirondack for braces and other appointments that would be $1500 - $2000, I bet he would charge $20000 for guitar like that.
the ridicoulous sound port, all it does is change the body resonance of the guitar - usually for the worse, but this lousy builder cant hear that, he is only listening from above the guitar and hears a certain volume only. overall his guitars are rubbish sounding, and not better in any way by being hand made. there are many factory made guitars that sound better then this.
It raises the "air" resonance frequency, which you could obtain by increasing the sound hole diameter. What's the point in making holes in the sides? But I've seen worse things in guitar making... nowadays everyone comes out with pointless "innovations".
Yeah, he'll keep doing it well until one day, you know, he won't, then ouch, spurt. + I couldn't help but notice the bandage on his fingers in the shot immediately after the juggling shot.
delusion of self grandeur .... $8000 for a student model.... I know students at Julliard that pay far less for a violins and other stringed instruments INCLUDING guitars. they have no complaints
***** your avg learners (not counting the prodigies) would not know the difference....as I said I know the cream of the crop music students that do with less. to answer your question...Nothing, there's nothing wrong with Y C40
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Thank you for inspiring this old man to try again!
It’s magical finding a playing guitar luthier
Oh my goodness, why so many haters on here? Yes the guy may be a bit different from other Luthiers, doesn't mean he can't go fishing, hang out with his "lovely wife" and charge 35K for his guitars - that's up to him and good on him. Certainly does not make him an "asshole"! Oh boy, there are some horrible people around!
Sir, you can sense the passion when you speak. Very nice guitars. If it was within my price range I would definitely buy one.
In all fairness to Steve, he has branched out in experimentation with different designs that have potential to grab the interest of players, for their needs. I started out with a lot of different masters designs and didn't settle into my real preferences until 25 years down the road. The fact that Steve is trying different models, will put him in a place that will give better focus on which-ever designs he chooses to stay with in the future. So Steve has an excitement about his craft that will outlast many ups and downs with a guitar maker's life's pursuit. We all have to admit that this craft is a lovely pursuit.
William Laskin came up with the soundport on the side, not you...
Very nice film documentary on guitar maker Stephen Connor. I met Stephen many years ago when he lived in Waltham, MA. Nice young man and very good guitar maker. I am so glad that he moved to Cape Cod and that he is experiencing much success there for his beautiful classical guitars.
Lovely video! I'll get down Cape to visit one of these decades :-)
Played Alembic Series II in ninety's, great sounding and great looking bass, but heavy.
Played couple of times Renaissance RB 4, soft and wiggly strings, but great sound !
Mr. Tuner is institution of turning wood into a sound and music !
Thank you....
This guitar tour was like being with Andrew Sagovia in Madrid Spain with the Legendary Great est Luthier, Antonio Torres. The Sound and the Artistry captures the magnificent Golden era the Romantic Sound that only the great Luthiers can create when building the guitar. The Guitar is a universe on it's own Evolution, from the wood to the polish to the interior and exterior, to the Machine tuners, to the strings,and final construction the
completion
Steve Connor has created an artistic, creative, fun, rewarding and financially successful life. Kudos! I just finished my first complete guitar build and, though, it is lovely to look at and wonderful to play, it is not nearly in the same league as a Connor. I wonder how many guitars he has built since 2009? What a treat to see and hear his story.
A great amount of nice stuff
Your guitars Sabin are realy beautifull and greatly sounding!!! Amazing talent!!!
the harmonic spectrum is too, is a great guitar, very well made, congratulations
Very interesting! Kudos to Mr. Connor for being such a laid back guy. This video showed at least 100 processes that would've frustrated me to the point of blinding rage!
Nice to this work of art. Thanks
Well done! A fascinating look at what goes into making great guitars.
Did you glue a heel less neck onto the top of the soundboard? How does that hold up over time? Just curious, cause I’ve never seen that done before.
He'll use a tenon joint into the heel block, as is used in most steel string guitars.
Not so common for classical instruments.
What is the musical piece at 4:26?
а для чего вы оставляете такие огромные потеки клея внутри гитары? Клеевые кляксы и капли делают лучше акустику гитары за счет отражений и интерференции звука?
Thanks I'm glad you found the video interesting! Steve is such an amazing person in addition to being an amazing luthier.
Science and artistry become one. Oh love the t-shirt btw.
What an awesome video. Thank you for sharing it. I saw this video a few years ago. I joined your channel. But I never received any more videos. Do you still post videos? Also. What kind of glue do you use? I hope you will post more videos.
William Laskin invented the sound port and arm bevel a true genius and great Canadian luthier!!!
OMG! It's so beautiful!!
Great vid. Appreciate your work. charlie tew, raleigh, nc
You don't use a bridge plate?
Wow. A lotta haters on this page. His guitar sounds great - they're always out of tune when first strung. If he can get $30k for a guitar, good luck to him - Braz Rosewd maybe? The guitar build looks detailed and well executed. The big question regards the absence of a heel where the neck joins the body. Seems a much simpler process with, possibly, more predictable results re neck angle. Got me thinking, for sure.
No guitar is worth $30.000.
If a guitar goes rapidly out of tune when first strung, just play your guitar for two more hours before making the video.
Sounds more like an intonation problem.
I like to learn how to make classical guitars what should I do ...How do I find materials..
Do you design each bracing to vibrate at a specific frequency?
He does nothing of the sort, and if he did, such frequency would changed in the completed instrument. He admitted he is guided more by intuition, than science, and the science he does mention are just fluff and puff buzz words, like fractals. Does he even know the fractal equation?
@@NeverTalkToCops1 The lattice bracing in the video is somewhat fractal, in fact there are some main struts that are bigger than the struts between them, and he could have made a third series of even smaller struts to put between the second ones. It's very easy to produce fractal structures, even if you don't know the equations. The point is whether using fractals gives good results in guitar making. Does a too dense lattice structure make a better sounding guitar? They say that it is better to put as little bracing as possible.
The secret to make good guitars is to tap tune the top properly, whatever the bracing system, not to invent weird bracings because you can't make good guitars with the standard ones.
@@NeverTalkToCops1 I agree. I would rather have a guitar built by someone who believes in physics, than whatever just comes to mind.
Kind of a rookie and lazy way to build.
The magnetic portal is a great idea.
Beautiful guitar im a irish classical guitarist i would to try one of your guitars some day
I'm confused! Do live in a Dutch Wind Mill and is the dog playing the guitar?
whats the song he plays at 15:54
How does one go about learning how to build guitars? Any recommended resources?? Books??
BEST WAY TO DI IT: be really wealthy & wake up one day & say "Daddy, Mommy I need millions of dollars for a lighthouse & guitar making equipment"
R. Cumpiano, "Guitarmaking: Tradition and Technology", Chronicle Books
Complete description of the making of both traditional acoustic and classical guitars.
what a great vid! Thanks for posting !!
nice looking stuff. but whats with all the sloppy glue squeeze out?
Awesome
what is the melody at 13.53?
Francisco Tárrega - Capricho árabe
The book by Trevor Gore and Gerard Gilet are something you should not miss "The contemporary Acoustic Guitar". Trevor is a Mechanical Engineer and the books are far beyond a PhD in research and analysis
what is the title of that song? 00:00-00:38
192k to 840k a year (if they all sold), that brought a smile to my face.
How can you put a price on a beautiful hand crafted guitar? But he thinks students can afford $8000. What a world he must live in.
G George You are certainly wrong in everything your statement says
A world of sports cars and country estates.
How much do you think a good violin or cello for student in a conservatory will cost ? He is talking about serious students. However there are good handmade instruments for half of that. There are students and there are students.
09:53 wat the titel of this musique pleez !
$8,000 as a budget guitar for students? Did I hear correctly?
EYyyyy,, i have this same T-shirt....!!! :-)
song at 10:00?
Prelude No.3 by Villa-Lobos
Song at 9:54?
That's the Prelude from the Bach Cello Suite No.1
you know what i understood what you were saying
You can turn down the volume with your right hand!
Actual guitar players know this!
Don’t hate
So many glue! Oo
Yes , painful to watch . I don't think Titebond belongs on an expensive instrument . Animal glue please
EXCELLENT VIDEO GOOD JOB....!!! Is Your Back Ground Peruvian Or Argentinian by Chance?
We applaud your experimentation! I don't think any of those bracing patterns fall out of fractal geometry. Perhaps you collected data on the performance of these bracing patterns, if not, all your work is lost, save for something you discovered by chance and remembered. It is likely you did not discover anything worthwhile, as the guitar building world is not recommending your methods.
As north americas finest poet /musician and painter said-- iF YOU THROW SAND at an oyster ..you get pearls ...BUT if you throw sand at a man you only get ULCERS.
The song at first is Canción Caroreña - Rodrigo Riera
Wow, everyone with an ISP and a computer becomes a critic nowadays!
Uhh.........yeah?
guitar way out of tune at 4:40. :( Rest of the video they are just incredible. Very sweet voices on these. Your business philosophy is similar to Steve Jobs. He went to India when he was young.
So Im not the only one? Great! Last time my ear got better probably because all the time i think guitars are out of tune.
Doing a favour to the students with a $20,000 guitar LOL
"Hand crafted guitar" using a side bender...way to go.
WesFanMan Sure, betcha can chop down a tree with bare hands
An $8,000 guitar is not a student model. That's something a talented guitarist might save up for over a fairly long period of time before before being able to buy. I live in Sonoma County and I'm surrounded by Luthiers. Do their guitars cost a pretty penny? Yes. $8,000 is is in the middle to upper range for a luthier of note, and sometimes you'll see people asking $12,000 - $15,000 for really special guitars. I've never even heard of this guy.
He seems like a real asshole, and his work is creative, yet average. Even if I could afford it, I wouldn't buy a guitar from him. To put it in his words, it's because, of "ethics."
And just as a little note - This guy has the nerve to say that he invented the side port? WTF
He seems pretentious. He also seems like he inherited money to begin with; I know a lot of the top luthiers in my area which is considered the guitar mecca of the world, and I've never heard his name, not once. It doesn't make sense. He's selling student models for $8,000? Who is he selling to? Probably friends of his parents who are probably filthy rich, thinking he can just start at the top if he slaps a certain price tag on his instruments.
Look at the top music schools in the country... How much do you think those guitarists are spending on their guitars? The answer is between $800 - $2,500 and those are guys that technically aren't beginners but students.
Now look at the professional industry. The only people paying this much for guitars are the top of the top when it comes to live classical performance, and again, I've never even heard his name. I smell a trust fund baby. Just calling it now.
Yeah...he was exaggerating of his valuable guitars valued at $8,000 to $30K. I never hear of his name in the luthier world. Even Jose Ramirez top model guitar sold for $20K . Who is Steve Connor? IS he build better guitar than Jose Ramirez or Antonio Torres? I would love to buy an original A. Torres guitar for $30K
You can actually buy a hand crafted guitars at low end Price ($1,000 - $3,000 only ) and you all check this amazing value classical guitars made by Luca Waldner (based in Italy) and his website is www.lucawaldner.com/. He made 2 models; : Almedina and Almedina Limited Edition model. Go to his website to check this amazing guitars.
He is quite a well regarded luthier. Eliot Fisk, David Tannenboum, Odair Assad all play his instruments in concert as did Ernesto Tamoy before he died.
Over priced. Look at all the great makers and you can find classics for 8k that'll get get you in the concert hall. Classic Hausers are 35k to 100k or Fredirich, Damman etc. You can get a newer Romanillos for 34k if you're lucky enough to find one.
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How about showing us how he makes those rosettes?
Oh yeah that's right....he doesn't....it's practically a glue on.
If I should try to make a guitar, I'd probably make a shitty one. I won't let that stop me, however--after all why shouldn't a shitty guitarist make himself a shitty guitar if he want to?
who is to say what sounds right? WHO?
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After watching this video, I really want to burn my $20 guitar and stop to follow my dream as a guitar player.
Love your Movie and work , some time ago I shot a film about a Luthier in our outback town in Australia , if you like please Google : Comboyne Luthier Kind Regards
ill giver er a go mate
That is a very good indian rosewood ... but Guitars souldnt be paint in the inside .... i would not buy a acustic guitar that was painted in the inside, because it takes wall the sount profundity of the tone´s guitar .. the rest of the work I think is perfect!
It's shellac, not paint, and some of the greatest luthiers of all time, such as I Fleta, did it. It is for aesthetic reasons and because helps the timber handle changes in humidity.
@@rjlchristie So let's paint the interior of the top, for aesthetic reasons! XD
@@andsalomoni If you think that's a good idea, you go ahead and do that. The rest of us would regard that as patently foolish.
@@rjlchristie It's just as good as painting the interior of the back! XD XD
@@andsalomoni Since you're the expert, you go tell that to Ignacio Fleta and sons and other elite luthiers. I'll just stick to relaying facts.
I just wanted to point out that all the music in this video is out of tune. The guitar is not very well tuned and/or intonation.
Not all of it. There's some fine stuff starting at 13:25.
Data compression, transcoding, etc. is not going to give us the very best audio/video.
he is driving a Porsche 924....nuff said?
@@lancethrustworthy
Yeah, well, the tuning starting then is acceptable.
Steve Connor's guitars are NOT worth anywhere near $8k. A real maker like Petros Guitars - I can totally understand them being at $8k or more due to their EXTREME attention to detail on all their models.
Steve sounds like a trust fund baby in the way he talks about money which it seems he really doesnt know the value of a dollar.
Looks like a honeycomb copy of a Reynolds. Guitar is nice but has to be tuned and played by artist to compare
wow. so much bullshit. I am a luthier myself, properly learned my trade and finished my 3 year degree in germany with an exam in front of the chamber of crafts. I know many colleagues of mine that will do work of equal or better quality for far less. 8000-35000 is as overpriced as it gets. Sorry, thats the truth. And its not even like he is doing any special kind of decorations that would justify the price. The models that are shown here are built very simply - this does not matter in the end result but you can see he even does all the connections sloppily to save time. thats fine but it won't justify the price.
Guitar is the hardest instrument to play,,
I'm about to quit it..
Charging students eight grand so you can go fishing instead of working? No, thanks.
3:24 Is that a jewish guitar?
LOL - looks like David's guitar.
So he makes ~24 guitars a year a minimum of $8K a pop... I'm in the wrong business!
Wood isn't that expensive. Master grade cedar, spruce, koa, and other back/sides woods would cost about $500 per guitar, on the high side, for the GOOD stuff.
boblob2003 even with Brazilian rosewood, alpine spruce, cuban mahogany for neck, ebony for board and bridge Adirondack for braces and other appointments that would be $1500 - $2000, I bet he would charge $20000 for guitar like that.
the ridicoulous sound port, all it does is change the body resonance of the guitar - usually for the worse, but this lousy builder cant hear that, he is only listening from above the guitar and hears a certain volume only. overall his guitars are rubbish sounding, and not better in any way by being hand made. there are many factory made guitars that sound better then this.
he drives a Porsche 924, nuff said?
It raises the "air" resonance frequency, which you could obtain by increasing the sound hole diameter. What's the point in making holes in the sides? But I've seen worse things in guitar making... nowadays everyone comes out with pointless "innovations".
A guy that makes hand made guitars wants me to know that hand made guitars are better than other guitars. BWAHAHAHAHA. Yeah i believe that.
No just No $8000.00 to $35000.00! Gimme a fucking break!
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The thing you did do good was juggle the chisel .
Yeah, he'll keep doing it well until one day, you know, he won't, then ouch, spurt.
+ I couldn't help but notice the bandage on his fingers in the shot immediately after the juggling shot.
I have an 8 dollar guitar ;)
Robert Johnson started out on three wires nailed to a shed wall ;)
Crazy. After about $1500 (~$750 cost) you are paying for art not sound.
delusion of self grandeur .... $8000 for a student model....
I know students at Julliard that pay far less for a violins and other stringed instruments INCLUDING guitars. they have no complaints
***** your avg learners (not counting the prodigies) would not know the difference....as I said I know the cream of the crop music students that do with less.
to answer your question...Nothing, there's nothing wrong with Y C40
PrimWhisperer .
The guitar playing was out of tune
lmao.
8k for a student????? are you kidding me, must be a rich student....
They may be ok for some people but I don't like them sorry