'Imagine what the UK could've achieved without Brexit' | James O'Brien on LBC
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- "Categorically untrue, demonstrably false, utterly fraudulent. How did this wonderful country fall for such an almighty con job?"
James O'Brien insists you can 'no longer pretend' that Boris Johnson's Brexit deal was actually 'oven-ready' as the former PM so often claimed.
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Just imagine what we could have achieved without the Tories.
You’ll have to I’m afraid.
More labour lead illegal wars ?
If you thinks things are bad now, which they are, just wait till Labour take over. The sh*ts really going to hit the fan, economic and environmentally wise.
@@David-kk5fx😂😂😂 how can they get ousted? They control the vote entirely
@@David-kk5fx nah the Tories in red get a go then
Imagine if we had a government, even remotely interested in looking after the country and its citizens instead of lining their own slimy pockets.
I totally agree with you 🤬 criminal Tories! PROFITEERING from the pandemic is a crime surely,....
@@davidhoyles8595 One does, just in case you hadn't noticed.
In 2008, the world experienced an economic meltdown. As part of its response, the EU enacted all kinds of financial changes including disclosure provisions. Financial reporting became a discussion in and around 2014 and became law in 2019. As these discussions became more serious, it is precisely at this time that talk of brexit began to assume momentum. Xenophobia was later on used as a tool or a vehicle to get brexit done. If you want to know what the UK would be like today, it would include a lot more wealthier people reporting their financials properly and paying their fair share of taxes.
It was also after the crash that UKIP got massive attention from oligarch media; from a position of being roughly level polling with The Greens, but being far more fetishised.
This is a historical dynamic: a conservative tilted establishment will generally prefer to profer the far right as an ‘alternative’ over radical progressivism, believing they can control the former and knowing that their economic power will be less threatened.
The Ex Tory Chancellor of the Exchequer Nadhim Zahawi who became chairman of the Tory party had to pay £5 million including a £1 million penalty to HM revenue and customs.
I don't think rich people like the ex Tory Chancellor of the Exchequer Nadhim Zahawi who was the boss of the treasury would like more EU disclosure laws about their financial situation.
It is interesting that it was a man called Tom Gardiner who flagged up what Nadhim Zahawi was doing to avoid tax and not the HM revenue and customs.
That in a nutshell is how this came to be
Oh dear, the owners of the Mail and the Telegraph would have had to pay some tax (at last).
Hitting the nail on the head Phillipe. It never fails to astonish me that fallout from the Panama Papers, and new EU anti-taxfraud legislation among other serious financial considerations hardly ever gets mentioned. The fact that in a survey in 2009 only 1% of the electorate were seriously worried about our relationship with the EU, but by 2016 52% of voters wanted to leave is testament to the incredible influence a concerted media campaign can have over a population largely ignorant of the true nature of the issues.
This country was seen as an inspiration, an innovator, an economic power house.... And then Boris and brext happened.
Cameron happened. Never forget
the 'new age' tory's happened in 2010, that's what happened and it's been a never ending disaster ever since...
Maybe in the industrial revolution it was. Since the end of WWII is hasn't inspired or innovated much
@@23merlino
Just after the "New age"Labour party were kicked out. They were a complete and utter shower as well .
@@kaashee he forgot..
How did it happen? Because amongst the dumbed-down electorate, apathy and lack of enquiry rules!
It happened because there were so many people against the EU laws and others who believed boris friggin, johnson's bull droppings about the money that would be saved by not giving to the EU and that money would be paid to the ailing NHS. The same NHS that the tories were intent on destroying, to enable them to privatise it and allow them to have shares in it, to gain more illegitimate money!
No, because Free Movement destroyed Remain with the working class. Oligarchs love immigration. Immigration is capitalism importing an over supply of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Back in the day even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration.
The City of London backed Remain, Old Labour voted Leave.
Bullseye 🎯
as someone who struggles to be succinct with language; this is an awe inspiring verse.
I would add ignorance and a misplaced sense of superiority too. Very little is "great" about Great Britain anymore.
It wasn't a deal at all. It was a TACTIC on December 24th to avoid the 6th Anti Money Laundering Directive which had comee into force on December 6th 2020. The offshore billions were thus protected. 👍🇬🇧👍.
Oh yes! Ask James why he hasn’t mentioned Meghan and Harry lately?
@@nick1065 Why would he?
@@SorbusAucubaria Because he’s wrong about them.
@@nick1065Who cares? Is it important?
Actually trillions
"A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth" Joseph Goebbels
nah its still a lie but people cant tell the difference
Wonder why O’Brien has gone quiet about Meghan and Harry lately?
How true and applicable to Covid. I take it you didn't follow the dictates by those evil Tories for two years? You must have looked into stuff. Or do you still believe it was a Bat in a Wet Market? Remember that doozy of a lie they kept telling.....glad no one believed that.
@Nick I think there are more important things to worry about than tabloid antics.
@@evanhughes7609 Really? He has mentioned them a lot in the past…but he’s gone quiet now. Nothing to do with the hilarious lampooning on South Park surely?
I’m long past caring about the UK right now. All I want is the break up of the UK and Scottish independence whenever that happens. Red and blue Tory England is beyond help I reckon
I served three tours in Northern Ireland during the 80’s and I’m appalled and terrified that the butchery might return.
Born in 83, I consider myself a "treaty baby", lucky enough to never have seen the war.
It's what the DUP want, and what the ERG would condone.
You're absolutely right,but it will have absolutely nothing to do with any hard border between north and south
@@andyjordan79 there will be no hard border, what are they gonna do put customs check points in my kitchen as that’s in the north and my front gardens in the south
It won’t
the last 3 years have brought us to the decision to emigrate to Ireland, I simply cannot live under the rule of this country.
......fascinating..are we supposed to be interested..?
@@chatham43 But you bothered to reply so.......
I went to the U.S. with wife and kids
@@chatham43buddy I took six figures income tax to the US
Don't blame you, if I didn't have responsibilities I'd consider leaving too :/
My mum is disabled and I have the privilege of caring for her, so I can't think of leaving. Otherwise I'd probably go too. Never thought I'd say that, I used to love this country so much. Now I'm disappointed and disgusted at what we've become.
I've never in 40 years believed a tory.
But have you believed in Labour, and if so, why?
@@trytellingthetruth.2068 believing in something is different to believing someone
@@tonedowne
Believing in someone politically, would mean you would need to believe in the party they represent. Would it not.
I’m exactly the same & I’ve always been truly baffled why ANY normal,everyday working class person in the UK would be of any other mind when it comes to the Torys.
I was born in ‘79,which was the same year ‘Thatcher got into power,so as a child born into a working class family,whose grandad was a lifelong miner, (apart for his WW2 years of service obviously) so the fact I could never even contemplate voting for a Tory shouldn’t come as any surprise & how any working class person in the UK could vote Tory is truly beyond my comprehension. To be an everyday working class Tory is literally to be anti self.I’ll never understand working class or even middle class Torys for that matter.
Do you think Labour doesn't lie? Remember WMDs? And that's just the most obvious example. They ALL lie. They ARE a lie. Politics is just a theatrical production. You may need to figure that one out first before you cast your vote based on expectancy rather than reality.
Just imagine how much torture this is for all the Brexit voters that thought they wouldn't be hearing any more about Brexit after voting to leave the EU.
Sadly it's torture for all of us however we voted.
Not torture for me pal
@@davidprosser457 yeah, down with the UK!!!!
Brexit is a sideshow. The Left has embraced open borders Globalisation = rule by international finance capitalism and has no solutions
no it aint torture for brexit voters just dont listen to whinge bucket that is Jimmy on LBC
Imagine what the UK could achieve without the ERG and Eton.
....and the remoaners....totally agree....
@@chatham43 Rather than the term "remoaners", I much prefer the term "people who were right."
Back to the coalface you such and such!
@@chatham43 Buddy...
Brexitter government, with a Brexiteer majority, and a Brexiteer PM, and a Brexiteer deal.
This is Brexiteer's Best Brexit, period.
@@chatham43I prefer people who are economically and financially literate.
I am just wondering when all this ‘why did it happened’ - argument will finish, so that we can discuss ‘why people who have lied and deceived - aren’t hold accountable for all the chaos their lies and deceit, have caused’ ?
As your comment clearly demonstrates, much felll through with the downfall of teaching standards, which started around the Thatcher years,
Ask GG
Fair enough question
I think Johnson and his mates should be in prison for wilfully and maliciously misleading the British people.
For me, it really is as simple as that
All of them, farage, Johnson, JRM el al
Well put.
*You* really are as simple as that
You can add 200,000 counts of manslaughter to that as well.
I doubt it was wilful. That requires a bit of intention and planning. And Johnson is the most intellectually lazy person I've seen with that kind of background. He doesn't care how things work - he really doesn't. He leared at the wrong age that acting the clown removes all requirements for him to actually learn something, so he perfected the clown act and didn't even try to get a clue about things that don't interest him.
I'm not an academic, lawyer or the like, I was just a skilled manual worker when the referendum result was announced - and the first word I uttered when I heard it was: effin' disaster, I mean it was obvious even to me that it was going to cause mayhem. (And sadly I was bang-on right!)
The EU had many opportunities to change their ways, they didn't and we all know what happened next.
@@jasonkingshott2971 and what should have been changed? In your favor? I am pretty sure you will answer along the lines of sovereignty and immigration. If so; have things improved for you? Answ; no. It got worse. Bit hey. Maybe your story is diffetent ( for once)…
@AI-D and you haven't benefitted from the labour shortage?
@@ai-d2121 Absolutely things have improved, out of that toxic, unelected, unaccountable organisation.
@@jasonkingshott2971 Oh, you're being serious. Name anything that has improved.
The largest google search the next day, after the Brexit vote, was What is Brexit? Says allot.
And "what is the EU?" was second
^ everyone with a different opinion than me is a idiot lol
And 'is allot in the dictionary' was the third.
It was “What is the EU?”
It WAS oven ready, it's just that the cooking instructions were "Half-bake on low heat for 7 years"
😂😂
Don't worry, it won't matter by then, we'll all have starved to death long before that.
@@chrisj9700 You mean the legislation that criminal liar Johnson then tried to scrap after a whole 6 months?
Of the oven is not available...mircowave it 🍅
It was cremation-ready, and not much else.
Love when Brexiteers keep saying "We've got our Sovereignty back" when none of them have a clue what Sovereignty is. 🤣
Or how to spell it
Sovrinty mate, no need for that fancy forrin way you spelt it now we got are sovrinty and bloo pissports
Sovereignty is welcoming dinghy boats in 5 stars hotels with visa top up every week...nowadays
Moving power from the EU Superstate to Westminster. You still have to VOTE in a positive government.
@@oinkoink6092 no that's post 1945 Liberalism
BREXIT was something that HAD TO HAPPEN so that Tories (and others) could avoid scrutiny of their London-centric money laundering operations.... IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE.... everything else was the smokescreen that covered it up. The final trick was to make it look as though it was the general public who voted for it, when in fact, the general public was manipulated and cajoled into making that vote to LEAVE the EU. Different means were used to achieve the result, depending on the target group, with some being convinced it was an immigration problem, a border problem or an NHS problem, when it was NONE OF THOSE. Just check out the money being passed to the Cayman Islands, the Bahamas, Bermuda, Jersey, Gibraltar, Cyprus and several others which are ALL CONTROLLED by the City Of London. THAT is what BREXIT was (and still is) about.
Exactly !! well said 👏👏👏
The City of London and big money backed Remain, Old Labour voted Leave.
Propaganda is an immensely powerful tool; when the wealthy tax dodgers, including the media barons, saw they were in danger of having to pay tax, they had to ensure Brexit happened. Due to incoming EU policies on the origins of money, it would also have been impossible for London to continue the vast washing of money at launderettes while still under the watchful eye of the EU. Subsequently the mass brainwashing of a nation was undertaken. The rich and powerful knew the electorate were a very pliable ensemble; they would appeal to their innate xenophobia and latent (though not so latent since Brexit gave them a voice) racism. Anybody warning of economic chaos, travel restrictions or condemning Brexit was considered anti-British, their assertions termed "Project Fear": Those of us who saw through the right wing rhetoric were mocked, our considered approach to Brexit termed Project Fear: Our prophesies about the detrimental effects of Brexit have now become Project Fact; unfortunately you'll never find a Brexit supporter willing to openly admit that they were completely wrong, fooled by a wealthy, tax dodging, elite into voting away their own, their children's and their grandchildren's futures, to ensure the rich could continue, unabated, decimating Britain for their own greed. Subsequently the economy and socio-economic gains of Britain have been destroyed for at least a generation, probably longer.
People need to wake up to reality and think before they vote away their futures, essentially they must stop voting for corporate business agents (Tories) and start voting for agents of the people (that is if you can find any, (New) Labour have removed the ones in their party): Importantly everything must be questioned; all that glitters is not gold, mostly it is Fool's Gold.
@@iberiano-ls2rv the City backed Remain Old Labour voted Leave
@@evolassunglasses4673 But the point here , is that people were manipulated; brainwashed, lied.
It's not just a lost 'half decade' we're talking about, or even an entire decade for that matter. It's more than that. Much more.
A modest prediction is that it's set us back 20 years. But a more accurate assessment would be anything between 30 and 50 years. It's going to take many many years (decades) to get the kind of growth levels and general prosperity that we had prior to the Brexit vote - particularly between the years 1999 and 2009.
We're not going to have another decade in the UK, similar to the 00's for a very long time yet. Brexit has been a massive 'own goal'. It may be abit early to say that it has 'sunk' us, but by 2030 it will have definitely done so. A Labour government may not make much difference now.
Things aren't going to be much better between now and then (by the end of this decade). They will almost certainly get worse.
Well done to James O'Brien for keeping this disaster afresh in our minds each day (someone has to); and for calling out the dreadful, devious and corrupt politicians who've brought us to where we are now.
Here we have a journalist who's prepared to go where few other journalists are - by sticking their neck out every single day, and cutting through the swathes of propaganda that the right wing media saturate us all with - and which millions still lap up.
And that's why he's among the very best of his generation. The best journalists aren't afraid of risking their own reputations by towing the line. Nor do they underplay the actions and behaviour of a corrupt government....several corrupt governments. They tell it like it is - warts and all.
There is no embellishment or softening to their words. It is what it is...and no one does this better than Mr O'Brien.
Absolutely fantastic that I’m totally despondent and what will my grandchildren think of this clown looking back in their history and how we fell in to Medieval History Well done you 🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕
@@Phil4-13 .....I just hope for your sake, that you didn't vote for Brexit. By 'clown' I'm assuming you mean Boris Johnson?
Well said and agreed. (*prepares for the usual hatemail*)
@@robtyman4281 I voted to leave and have no regrets. O'Brien is making a comfortable living off of it; he gets paid well for rehashing the decision to leave the EU.
Oh no most DEFINITELY not was telling people a few years ago this would be like driving a car heading to a wall without any airbags !!!!!!
Destroyed my retirement plans and trapped me in this country :(
Tell us where it states you are unable to move to foreign shores?
@@trytellingthetruth.2068 Please do tell us, oh wise one, how someone close to retirement, with a small amount of cash, emigrates - particularly in light of the loss of free movement in Europe?!
@@trytellingthetruth.2068 Go on then, name a decent country that you can move to while on the UK state pension.
The West is in decline not just us. Open borders Globalisation has hollowed us out
@@evolassunglasses4673 there's countries with open borders? Julian will be pleased - he thought he was trapped here. Can you list them for us?
Imagine what the UK could achieve without the class system, and with a fair distribution of the wealth we all create. Brexit was a shackle that has turned us into a nation of indentured servants to the rich.
so true...
We have always been a nation of indentured servants to the rich. For a 1000 years or more.
The Rich/ City of London backed Remain, Old Labour voted Leave.
Then we need to tax the wealthy and get the money back that they received during Covid
@@23merlino the Rich / the City backed Remain, Old Labour voted Leave
Thanks for putting it in to words for me James,Enough is Enough 👍👍
Off you go then…
James...as a former Public School educated person...after a few more books, a few more years on LBC, why not run for office? You'd et my vote! Totally agree with your views. Think about it …seriously!
We need "intellect" NOT "personality" …the country has had enough of clowns!
That would involve leaving the LBC studio. He could no longer just press the mute button on his political opponents.
Yeah, And he could have his right hand man Carl Beech and Oh Darren 😳
Just as well you don’t need personality as O’Brien doesn’t have one.
As founding member PSBAT you definitely would meet all the requirements.
I know exactly how it happened ... Rupert Murdoch
Don't forget the Rothermeres and Conrad Black.
Coming from New Zealand, where we have the INCREDIBLY competent Labour Party in power through the entirety of covid and other disasters, I have to say that the public reaction to competent leadership is much the same as that of incompetent leadership; thanks, in large part, to the murdoch press. I have no words when I compare the outcomes of the two leadership styles and see much the same sorts of people who defend Johnson absolutely railing about the "awful" Ardern. They're already starting in on her successor Hipkins, who has begun his tenure with some disastrous climate change effects and managed them very well. Yet, half the country, listening to shysters in the press pool, think otherwise.
the thing is, sometimes there would be opportunity to critique, but these tabloids and greedy journalist are all full of hatred and dishonest ranting instead of actual honest discussions about how to make things better. It's more like a competition for them instead.
'The Curse of the Anglsophere' i4m sorry to say.
And a man's name, thank you.
@@for111 haha, the man version is with an "e". I had so many people calling me "dude" I decided to go with clarity 🤣
@@MadCatLady28 😂😂 I've had a lifetime of having my name written as Jo
We are in this sorry state of not paying nurses , rail workers ,post workers ,care workers , but we can pay barristers 15% mps £84k plus expenses and them even using govenrment work as a secondary job we alow their corruption , greed and lying from the top of the tory party, that is why we are in this sorry state.
Don't forget the millions we are able to find to give to Ukraine.
nailed it...
@@trytellingthetruth.2068 And the BILLIONS that the Tories were able to find to enrich their mates and funders. That's only if you're able to live up to your rather self-serving pseudonym.
@@petergaskin1811
and the billions nicked from workers pension pots by Labour. But we'll put that to one side for the moment.
@@trytellingthetruth.2068 How did labour steal money from workers pension pots?
The strange thing is that even with all the evidence some people still think we should have left! How insane are some people who just hate Jonny foreigner!
True, but now embedded in the genes of too many English.
Imagine what we could also have achieved had the Tories not been allowed to sell off our utilities.All that money that companies syphoned off in profits could have gone to upgrading/repairing infrastructure and maybe we wouldn't have sewage in our rivers and rises in energy prices wouldn't be as bad
ComMUniSm!!!
Germans asked “how could this happen” at lot, too. Just 70 years ago.
Now the question remains: Why did David Frost get a lordship for failing to do this after years years and years of negotiations? While Sunak managed it in a couple of months, apparantly just by honestly and pragmatically looking for a solution, according to Van der Leyen.
I am in the EU and would suggest you take little notice of
Von der Leyen. She really belives she IS the EU and not just the Head of the civil service here. She has NO Mandate to go around declaring EU policy, such as rapid entry to the EU by Ukraine (fafter Russia the most corrupt country in Europe)
Just imagine what The UK could do without Tories.
there is a reason labour dont win often
IMAGINE ALL THE TAX THAT COULD HAVE BEEN COLLETED FROM TORY TAX DODGERS THAT COULD HAVE GONE TO PAY FOR OUR HARD WORKING DECENT NURSES AND DOCTORS!!!!
You don't need much imagination.Sterling would be 20% higher against the Euro/USD .As a net importer the fall in Sterling had cost 10's of billions.
Very true....and yet people say our increased fuel bill are not brexit related!
"...a country of *such quality*...*this great country*..."
That's part of it. As with the US, Brits have been brought up to believe in their own special-ness, uniqueness, superiority. It's the 'it couldn't happen here' mentality that has led so many countries to lean so heavily toward fascism without noticing.
"Oven-ready": Not even half-baked.
The mainstream media are severely dumbed down and little to no journalist actually challenges a politician on what they are saying. Also, accountability has been lost from politics since the last financial crash from nearly 15 years ago.
are you talking about the remainer mainstream media?
I now see people I absolutely know voted to leave pretending othwise, while others still blame others for this trickle of nuisances, that I suspect will flow longer and harder. James is one of the few to keep pushing the subject, which is terrifying in itself. Mass denial
Had a guy telling me yesterday that empty supermarket shelves are down to 'the EU punishing us for leaving' - there's no end to the delusions for some
@@stevelaw3886 the trouble, or the luck, for the brexit crew, is that there has been a whole line of unpredictable and unusual circumstances that mask the effect...pandemic, weather, war, liz trust less economic meltdown, China, paper cut, 20 years of no coherent industrial and resilience strategy etc!
If the UK was a democracy we’d have never had Johnson in charge at all
It happened because Cameron wanted a clearer majority in his second term
No because he put the Scottish independence debate to bed by giving a vote he thought he could do the same with European membership. Spectacularly back fired mainly by his own party.
I lost my faith in politicians’ motives when the Mayor of Amity Island was re-elected for Jaws II.
A most astute observation that deserves more upvotes than it has.
"How did it happen?" .".Divide and Rule"....It's the oldest trick in the book! Why?..because it works!
James,April 1st isn't far away, it should be made a national holiday, to celebrate all those Brexiteers!..
Stop buying their newspapers their sports and movie subscriptions etc. Get their mouth pieces out and things might change
Murrrrrr-Dockkk!!! *Jaws theme plays*
What baffles me is I know people who voted for brexit and won't have a word against it despite none of the promises made being delivered .
Just imagine if these tomato producing countries didn't have such bad weather tomatoes would be rolling around our supermarket floors.
And yet it's only the UK with the problems.
Plenty of tomatoes in the EU dude!
@@fitzstv8506 spoke to family in Holland, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, they all say they are experiencing the same as us here in the UK. A friend in Switzerland thou said they are doing ok no reports of any issues so it looks like Switzerland is the place to be heading to if things are that bad here in the UK
@@john-gr8in Naw man! there are no fruit or vegetable issues in the EU the supplies are there and supermarket shelves are full, I live in the EU by the way. Check with your family again either they are mistaken or telling lies.
James I applaud you .I wish our politicians followed you're lead thank you for continuing to speak the truth it means so much to people with morals to have you on side
So, let me get this straight, no unicorns and no rainbows? 😡😡😡😡😡
Oven ready to microwave 😂 nice one Boris 🤣.
As a Canadian 🇨🇦 British born 🇬🇧 I feel sorry for both Britain and the United States. Britain let in Brexit which has been a huge mistake and the United States has catered to Trump another huge mistake…. both countries are suffering a hang over of regret. I hope both countries can fix their mistakes as quickly as possible.
You know nothing about the USA and most Americans want trump back after watching what Biden has done. Worry about Canada not about the rest if the world
@@chrisj9700 Explain the point you're trying to make?
@@c0222 I think he's saying that Scotland, Wales, Northen Ireland and Cornwall should all demand Independence. I disagree. Northumbria should be on the list as well.
If we didn’t go in it in the first place we wouldn’t have to have lend half of Europe countless billions
You had Johnson, we had tRumph. We should consider ourselves lucky to still be alive.
Why? You had no war,
Unlike now.
The Victor Meldrew of radio strikes again! 😂😂😂
I don’t think of myself as clever or intelligent but I’m still baffled at the stupidity of some people who actually believed in Boris Johnson and all his lies 🙄🤦🏼♂️
The standard of this country might not be as high as you suggest
That compassion is all but spent now. People who voted Leave got exactly what they deserved. It’s just a pity that the rest of us got dragged along with them.
.....why not blame remainers who couldn't be bothered to vote in the referendum....?
Boris made a speech praising 'the grafter and the 'grifter'' in 2018. This was a massive clue from him about his character. If any other politician had praised grifters the media would halve pounced on them but, for some reason, perhaps because Boris was a journalist, he was always given a free pass.
It always amazes me when Tories say, “we got brexit done”. What does that even mean? Like it was a carefully built piece of legislation that requires hours of hard work and cooperation.
All you did was leave a union based on lies and an opportunity for power. What have they ever built? Destroying something shouldn’t be described as, “getting it done”.
These are the sort of questions that need answering by the Government
I will never forget sitting next to a chap (whilst sorting letters) who was singing "We're going to have a Brexit (bis), cheap food, cheap food". we certainly did not get the cheap food-not even powdered potato and egg from Uncle Sam.
The frozen food in my freezer is "oven-ready". It doesn't mean it's cooked and ready to eat.
It wont taste as nice either. Much nicer with fresh ingredients.
The ones in power for 13 years should be held to account and dragged to court. They destroy everything, yet face no consequences.
Xenophobia was surely the main driver.
Tickled along by the Tory mainstream gutter press.
You just said why: "A country of this quality". It's that exact attitude.
They fell for it for the same reason that Trump won in the USA and Doug Ford won in Ontario , Canada, Orban won in Hungary and Bolsonaro won in Brazil.
People were gaslit to believe jeremy corbyn would be a disaster. The irony.
No, he should of accepted the result of the Referendum. He was very anti EU all his political life just like his hero Tony Benn. But he flipped flopped and crashed in the Old Labour Leave seats
Well at least they got that bit right.
Slava Ukraini.
@@petergaskin1811 JC wanted to remain... so disaster would have been averted there AT LEAST. No more needs to be said?
well said sir
A colleague of mine still tells me "you were right" it just annoys me that it happened.... she is a very intelligent woman btw.
They lied Straight to our faces With no consequences???
Very,very well said.
💩
Trinidad & Tobago locked on and I am a fan supporting u all the way.
No more Tory!
No more Jack-A Norey!
Let it go Jimmy,
This wonderful country is more than your bubble.
The deal may have been 'Oven Ready', but it's a pity there's no salad or vegetables in the supermarkets to serve with it.....
James, and thinking Mr Johnson was rushed from his holiday to come back and replace Mrs Truss because some people still saw him as the best option to be PM, despite all his lies…
But the important thing about 2016 that I can remember is that you couldn't get impartial advice from either side of the camp. Not ONE program here on RUclips just laying down the pros and cons of remaining in Europe or say the advantages of leaving Europe. It was simplistic horror stories on both sides of the fence.
Thats because there were no pros to leaving. So how would anyone make a OBJECTIVE video about brexit. With the pros of leaving. There were only cons
@@azizaishere Listen you're talking to a working class person who voted to remain. Forget sovereignty, being able to live and work in most of Europe without the hassle of visas and applying for citizenship was a fabulous thing. It was unconceivable to me that some idiots would want to end that because they felt orders came from Brussels rather than White Hall. But neither side said anything sensible including the remain vote. They both just said the UK was doomed if they left or were doomed if they remain.
As an American who has lived in the UK - I thk Brexit will go down in history as simply one of the greatest self-inflicted wounds a developed country suffered in the first 50 years of this century. It’s stunning how ridiculous Brexit is…I’ve not been back to London since 2015 - I anticipate it will have a very different vibe when I next go back (in 2015 London was the center of the entire world)…
I can only imagine how much Boris Johnson must be pulling out his hair going mad and hoping with all hope little Rishi's NI protocol agreement doesn't go through...🤭
I am glad that you are calling out the liers and using the word liers and not dishonest, you just have to call them what they are and don't use more eloquent words to describe them
Brexiteers are doubling down in denial after realising their messiah lied to them 😂😂😂
If you believe anything a politician says, whether it was about Brexit, (no such thing as a hard Brexit) or a manifesto a party comes out with to win your vote. Then you are a fool.
Brexit is just moving power from the EU Superstate to Westminster. You still have to VOTE in a positive government. Corbyn could of set out an alternative. He could of accepted the result of the Referendum. He was very anti EU all his political life just like his hero Tony Benn. He became leader suddenly flipped flopped and crashed in the Old Labour Leave seats
How is your economy doing. 🤔
I've stopped reading everyone's comments 😢
Why ?
Cos, cos I went downstairs and realised I'd finished my last beer. There are no more beers left in my fridge.
This country is ruined. 😢
I voted for Corbyn therefore have a clear conscience. Those who voted for the other guy, however.........
Corbyn should of accepted the result of the Referendum. He was very anti EU all his political life just like his hero Tony Benn. He became leader suddenly flipped flopped and crashed in the Old Labour Leave seats.
@@chrisj9700 Putin is Boris' paymaster!
"How did a lie of this magnitude get sold to a country of this quality?"
The answer is in the question, James. The population of the UK believe - through constant propaganda - that the country is of somehow higher quality than others and therefore can't be sold lies. People of the UK look at the terrible wrong turns that so many countries have historically made and say: "We're British. Can't happen here!"
Just another chapter in the warfare between the classes. The rich vs everyone else, a tale as old as time.
It wasn’t the lies as much as we needed somebody with some form of testicles to stand up to the lies …. We still don’t have anyone !
Of course they can still pretend longer. They have so far against all obviousness.
brexit . . . not thinking further than nose 101 . . .
There’s been so much wrong doing, I had completely forgotten about the Cummings episode 😱
The kinds of l ies the brexiteers said should get them charges
Still waiting for those instantaneous Brexit benefits.
You'll be waiting forever! (Don't worry I do get what you said)
Brexit is just moving power from the EU Superstate to Westminster. You still have to VOTE in a positive government
We would have continued to stagnate. Until hundreds of thousands of Brits. We're living bill to bill on minimum wage terms never entering the housing market..
While rich champagne Charlie's were all over Europe.
The dying death throes of empire.
The Global American Empire is in decline.
exactly, a kneejerk reaction .
Would love to see the call in part of this show; what are people still saying?
Our country needs a compulsory National IQ Test 😂
And then what? Even intelligent people are manipulated into voting one way or another. What's needed are healthy doses of reality and cynicism. Unfortunately, people would rather not have to face reality as they can merely whinge and moan about things afterwards.
Rules you out then
Imagine having a referendum and loosing and not accepting the result.
"if ifs and buts were pots and pans, there would be no need for tinkers."
Speechless. Thank you to the team at LBC 👍
So after 6 years and billions spent on experts and quango's to sort this issue the answer is........ red and green channels at the border.
Sometimes i truly despair at the quality of our governance.
.....2 years....
Just think of your local High Street now vs 2016. Even going back to that was a huge improvement