I have a take on a take in this video. Instead of it being that Josh gets the MVP for overcoming the loss of a number 1 receiver. Instead Kincaid will have a bigger season than all are expecting(somewhere around Joe’s projected season) and it will detract from Josh’s season since the narrative will change from, “he did it with no weapons” to “Dalton Kincaid emerged and allowed that offense to work without a number 1 receiver a la Travis Kelce”. Call me a cynical bills fan but the national media and the voters always find a way to undercut an Allen MVP
I mean fuck all allen did was pull a dead team with a 500 record to 2 home playoff games while lamar had half his stats and the number 1 defense ans still almost lost the division I'm betting your correct
The things I'm looking for on Sunday in order of importance are... 1. Von Miller's explosiveness 2. Dorian Williams in coverage 3. Kincaid's usage 4. Groot's pass rush 5. McGovern's snaps Nothing about WR distribution because I don't think we'll learn anything for a few weeks there.
@dustinstella6656 I honestly think it's being over blown who cares who the pass is going too and how much clearly we don't have a number one guy you can say Kincaid but that just speculation at this point (probably correct) the only thing I care about is if it's being caught and for positive yards
The Bills have not been to a Super Bowl since the last time they fielded a RB named Davis. Back then It was Kenneth Davis (who was instrumental in THE COMEBACK). Now it's RAY.
About to board a flight from Sydney Australia with my Son to get to the opening game - cannot wait - has been 5 years We’ll try and get to the season launch event and see you do the pod live Go Bills
Ya I don’t normally agree with the other commenter opinion wise but on McDermotts defense you could be the number one over all pick and not see the field if you don’t check the boxes
For sure I just don’t think he will start unless McDermott sees him as the best player or injury strikes. McDermott always plays who he thinks is best regardless of contract, draft position, or fan base popularity
@@AvocadoHank I think he's gonna be forgotten about and he gets open in the end zone. Won't have alot of targets or catches but I can see him having 8 plus TDs easily.
@@junyajax like seriously. He's gonna be doing alot more blocking and he's gonna be on the field in the redzone and teams are gonna forget about him and Josh has always liked to throw to him both in the endzone and on scrambles. I just really see it
@@jd229 yeah we've seen what he can do when he's the number 1 tight end. Imagine how productive he can be if other teams are covering him like he's the fifth option. I'm starting him on my fantasy team.
I have to admit I was surprised Joe when you felt the roster wasn’t as good as last year. I do understand it could not be, however so much upside with the unknowns. I believe in addition by subtraction. Most players lost limping by week 15. Fresh legs- Sustained juice!!
Joe: Nothing ever goes the way you think its going to go (in reference to schedule/wins) Buffalo at the Jets with Zach Wilson........so frustrating. Also, Josh should have won MVP last year. My opinion. If he puts up numbers similar to last year AND wins the divison or deep playoff run, he should win it. Lastly, IF Bills win the division.....will McDermott FINALLY win Coach of the Year? He's waaaay past due, imo.
The closer we get to game 1, the more nervous I get. Maybe it’s my PTSD of watching them flop in big moments since my childhood in the 90’s, or my complete crushed belief that our game against the Chiefs was ours, either way I’m nervous for Sunday and excited all at the same time. Hoping it’s not a repeat of our season opener last year! No matter the outcome- Go Bills!❤🏈💙
Von is a waste of money, I can’t image what the team could have done with that money. Josh will be Josh, the defensive side will struggle all season. It’s going to be a long season and don’t be surprised if Josh gets injured.
Speaking of the 2013 season....the Bills travelled to play the 3-10 Oakland Raiders. We all know what happened. They finished 9-7 and would have broke the drought 4 years earlier.
Mcd in my opinion steps back many players, including Elam because of his near perfect play thinking…. It has happened again. With Daequan Hardy …. The one play that I think McDermott is holding against him… was when he ran back towards the end zone on that punt….. I can see from Hardee’s perspective, to take advantage and show his skills on each and every preseason punt… and he demonstrated his physical skills in that particular play and others …did McDermott, make him aware to play the game as if it’s a regular season game, and make the best decision on each and every punt…???….Hardy like Elam is a very aggressive player…. And can be game changers …. But MCD hinders their growth by taking away their instinctive skills …..and he demands a perfect player…. Let the players be themselves…. And not second guess what they do … I understand a certain scheme, but there are exceptions. Splash plays on D has been really non existent, due to MCD not allowing players to be themselves…and use their instincts….MCD always wants to be regimented …. Instincts is what makes players great …. And results. In splash plays
Rousseau looks to me like he grew into a man in the off-season. He grew into his body and filled out. When he speaks to the media he seems much more mature. A full-grown Groot will be a force this year.
Sorry Joe but they can't inject von Miller into the game like a field goal kicker..if you think that's what they have to do then why is he even on the team???????????
As far as the defense goes and how good they will be …. The issue in the past has been those 3rd down and long conversions they gave up .. and there was a ton of them … the first game vs Arizona… May start off as that, as seasons usually start as they ended the prior year …but after the first few give ups … if it does not improve … then it’s the same old D….And no Super Bowl …
Sorry man, it's the woke media that's pushing the narrative Allen's overrated. Allen doesn't at all fit their favored marketing direction & seen to much from ESPN jumping at any chance they get to knock him. Allen very much gets the same treatment as Caitlyn Clark from them.
Put another way, if Allen and Clark were both black the narrative would be so totally different. Allen 100% would have won an MVP. We just happen to be live in an increasingly racially divided nation. Thank you, mass media.
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I have a take on a take in this video. Instead of it being that Josh gets the MVP for overcoming the loss of a number 1 receiver. Instead Kincaid will have a bigger season than all are expecting(somewhere around Joe’s projected season) and it will detract from Josh’s season since the narrative will change from, “he did it with no weapons” to “Dalton Kincaid emerged and allowed that offense to work without a number 1 receiver a la Travis Kelce”. Call me a cynical bills fan but the national media and the voters always find a way to undercut an Allen MVP
I mean fuck all allen did was pull a dead team with a 500 record to 2 home playoff games while lamar had half his stats and the number 1 defense ans still almost lost the division I'm betting your correct
I got out of work I said to myself I really hope Joe put out a podcast and of course he doesn’t disappoint. Go Bills
So glad you did this Joe! I’m one of those “delusional” thinking Von could be Come Back Player of the Year! Hope is the greatest of all things 😆
There is no need for a #1 receiver under new offensive scheme. Allen has several big targets to throw to.
The text line with Joe is worth every penny! Honestly! Makes me so more rational as a past rabid fan! 😆 my wife promotes it as well! 🤣
Listening to Joe’s informed and reasoned takes has generally better blood pressure scores heading into and during game days.
@scottblakely4419 I'm up north and don't like discord, pretty bummed I'm not on that text line
The things I'm looking for on Sunday in order of importance are...
1. Von Miller's explosiveness
2. Dorian Williams in coverage
3. Kincaid's usage
4. Groot's pass rush
5. McGovern's snaps
Nothing about WR distribution because I don't think we'll learn anything for a few weeks there.
@dustinstella6656 I honestly think it's being over blown who cares who the pass is going too and how much clearly we don't have a number one guy you can say Kincaid but that just speculation at this point (probably correct) the only thing I care about is if it's being caught and for positive yards
The Bills have not been to a Super Bowl since the last time they fielded a RB named Davis. Back then It was Kenneth Davis (who was instrumental in THE COMEBACK). Now it's RAY.
I’m think Allen could have 5k total yds 50 total touchdowns and
@@benjaminmetcalf5012 I fucking hate talking to brain dead ravens fans derrrr he's better cuz mvps
Bishop and Cine back there would give us insane range and speed.
Up early with the best pod around! Thank you Joe and go Bills!
GOOD MORNING! Thank you!
Takes on takes is my favorite segment on the draft dudes. Love that it’s on LOB! Go Bills!
Ray Davis is a superior receiver to Cook simply for fewer drops and better route running
If Rapp and Bishop are healthy, I think we will be fine at safety.
I love listening to your content every morning. It's the only way to start my day! Go Bills!!!
My hot take that is that all bills starters will be available for the start of playoffs (milano included)
It would be amazing to go into the postseason at full health for once
About to board a flight from Sydney Australia with my Son to get to the opening game - cannot wait - has been 5 years
We’ll try and get to the season launch event and see you do the pod live
Go Bills
@@ScottCooper-p7x that's sick from Canada Go Bills
Great show today and always. Sunday cant come fast enough.
You don’t draft someone in the second round to have them sit all year. Cole Bishop will see the field 110%
Who knows at this point? We drafted Elam in round 1 a few years and how long did it take for McDermott to get over his stubbornness?
Ya I don’t normally agree with the other commenter opinion wise but on McDermotts defense you could be the number one over all pick and not see the field if you don’t check the boxes
@@DeepThinker-gc8nz Times have changed though. If this is a “retooling year” we need to see what our tools are capable of doing.
For sure I just don’t think he will start unless McDermott sees him as the best player or injury strikes. McDermott always plays who he thinks is best regardless of contract, draft position, or fan base popularity
I think Shakir is over 1000 yards this year.
Hope so, I drafted him and Kincaid yesterday 😂
@@dirtyrandy2592 Good luck in your fantasy league this coming season. what website are you using for fantasy?
My hot take is that Dawson knox has the most receiving TDs on the team.
As a Dawson Knox defender, I totally agree. Dudes a red zone threat
@@AvocadoHank I think he's gonna be forgotten about and he gets open in the end zone. Won't have alot of targets or catches but I can see him having 8 plus TDs easily.
This has been a weird nagging feeling that I've had for a while now.
@@junyajax like seriously. He's gonna be doing alot more blocking and he's gonna be on the field in the redzone and teams are gonna forget about him and Josh has always liked to throw to him both in the endzone and on scrambles. I just really see it
@@jd229 yeah we've seen what he can do when he's the number 1 tight end. Imagine how productive he can be if other teams are covering him like he's the fifth option. I'm starting him on my fantasy team.
I have to admit I was surprised Joe when you felt the roster wasn’t as good as last year. I do understand it could not be, however so much upside with the unknowns. I believe in addition by subtraction. Most players lost limping by week 15. Fresh legs- Sustained juice!!
Good. Morning Joe
Joe: Nothing ever goes the way you think its going to go (in reference to schedule/wins)
Buffalo at the Jets with Zach Wilson........so frustrating.
Also, Josh should have won MVP last year. My opinion. If he puts up numbers similar to last year AND wins the divison or deep playoff run, he should win it.
Lastly, IF Bills win the division.....will McDermott FINALLY win Coach of the Year? He's waaaay past due, imo.
@@chipsmith2256 we've already seen what happens when allen does all that they give it to lamar lmao
As you said that I got the announcement that Demar was starting. So odd.
The closer we get to game 1, the more nervous I get. Maybe it’s my PTSD of watching them flop in big moments since my childhood in the 90’s, or my complete crushed belief that our game against the Chiefs was ours, either way I’m nervous for Sunday and excited all at the same time. Hoping it’s not a repeat of our season opener last year! No matter the outcome- Go Bills!❤🏈💙
I hear you, was born in 85 so my memory of the bills has been let downs lol. But still a huge fanatic.
Hot take? Bills are still contenders, but the offense is going to look ugly this year, a lot of bully ball
I liked Jim Swartz when he was with the bills
Von is a waste of money, I can’t image what the team could have done with that money. Josh will be Josh, the defensive side will struggle all season. It’s going to be a long season and don’t be surprised if Josh gets injured.
We have a Bass problem
I think the Bills will have two 1000 Yard rushers
I dont think the nfl is ready for what Allen is going to do this year
Don't see James Cook as that agile, more of a 1 cut only back who runs way to upright with no intent on yards after contact.
Speaking of the 2013 season....the Bills travelled to play the 3-10 Oakland Raiders. We all know what happened. They finished 9-7 and would have broke the drought 4 years earlier.
Tyler Bass leads league in FG % going 45/45. 😅
Mcd in my opinion steps back many players, including Elam because of his near perfect play thinking…. It has happened again.
With Daequan Hardy …. The one play that I think McDermott is holding against him… was when he ran back towards the end zone on that punt….. I can see from Hardee’s perspective, to take advantage and show his skills on each and every preseason punt… and he demonstrated his physical skills in that particular play and others …did McDermott, make him aware to play the game as if it’s a regular season game, and make the best decision on each and every punt…???….Hardy like Elam is a very aggressive player…. And can be game changers …. But MCD hinders their growth by taking away their instinctive skills …..and he demands a perfect player…. Let the players be themselves…. And not second guess what they do … I understand a certain scheme, but there are exceptions.
Splash plays on D has been really non existent, due to MCD not allowing players to be themselves…and use their instincts….MCD always wants to be regimented …. Instincts is what makes players great …. And results. In splash plays
Why is Ray Davis listed as RB3 on the depth chart?
Also… Coleman isn’t starting according to the latest depth chart…
Rookies beginning. That will change by game 4.
Rousseau looks to me like he grew into a man in the off-season. He grew into his body and filled out. When he speaks to the media he seems much more mature. A full-grown Groot will be a force this year.
My hot take: The Bills shock everyone and go 11-0 to start the season.
Sorry Joe but they can't inject von Miller into the game like a field goal kicker..if you think that's what they have to do then why is he even on the team???????????
As far as the defense goes and how good they will be …. The issue in the past has been those 3rd down and long conversions they gave up .. and there was a ton of them … the first game vs Arizona… May start off as that, as seasons usually start as they ended the prior year …but after the first few give ups … if it does not improve … then it’s the same old D….And no Super Bowl …
My prediction: Bass will no longer be the starting kicker by week 5.
Edit: I hope to be wrong, and for Bass to return to full form.
Nowhere to Hyde … would have been a really good fantasy football team name.
Von Miller is done. He has been the second he got the ACL. I'll bet anyone he'll never get another sack.
Joe's stats for ja17 he gave yesterday are no where near mvp numbers. So if joe is right then josh will not be mvp. Both things can't be true.
Get used to losing. Even the best player in the league can’t win with a bad coaching staff.
Sorry man, it's the woke media that's pushing the narrative Allen's overrated. Allen doesn't at all fit their favored marketing direction & seen to much from ESPN jumping at any chance they get to knock him. Allen very much gets the same treatment as Caitlyn Clark from them.
Put another way, if Allen and Clark were both black the narrative would be so totally different. Allen 100% would have won an MVP. We just happen to be live in an increasingly racially divided nation. Thank you, mass media.
They have you paying attention and commenting on the narrative they created. That is what the media does.
You have to live in an echo chamber to believe any of what you just said is true
@@ronintsukebin9163 truth
The woke media?? Get real guy