CHOSEN ONES - Terrible Writing Advice
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Idea, in a world where the public puts too much emphasis on destiny, the dark lord invents a chosen one prophecy to fool the public into thinking their only hope is teenagers, just to make his job easier
S Clair Best-seller material right here!
I am so stealing that! Oh wait, nap time. Never mind (zzzz)
S Clair that's..... legit awesome
S Clair I did think of that,where the chosen one prophecy is just a lie.But then we may just have them still win defeating the purpose of the twist...unless you're me and will kick that shit to the curb and make the evil person win over the not so special chosen one.
And then the hero motivated by the thought that they were the chosen one gains the training items and allies necessary to beat the dark lord anyway and the only reason they have all those things is because everyone thought the hero was the chosen one so they just gave it to them and when they learned this wasn't true they just said fuck it.
Dark Souls: The place where being a chosen one is worse than death.
you might not even be the "chosen one chosen one" a local beef jerky with giant club is
And there's no ONE chosen undead, everybody is told the same story, hoping one of them will do it.
Madoka Magica: The place where being a chosen one means getting the honor of destroying the world.
@@urafaget5202 that's right, at the end of the dark souls 1 you're given a choice, to either light the fires or let it die out, in time even if you let the first flame die, another chosen undead will come and light it, probably while fighting abyss monsters like Manus.
@@heavysaber9431 and that Undead's journey will be way easier than ours
Hey Anakin was the chosen one I heard he's great with kids
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, I've heard he also likes to go to the beach with his wife! After all, he loves sand!
LMAO
E Gray he did balance the force by killing all the Jedi then killing palpatine thus destroying the sith
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE ANNIKAN
Rule number 1: The chosen one should be always a shy morally perfect teenager.
Ioan Funny you should say that. I wrote an original story that centered around a Chosen One who as incredibly shy, but morally flawed. She alwo has several internal conflicts. I only did that so that her experiences could give her character development over time. The shyness never fully goes away though.
Or a teenager who kills an entire village for the revenge of his Dead mother.
Ioan *cough* kirito *cough*
Or Keanu Reeves
@@berdansargol1577 anakin
One of the best part of the Lego Movie was how it ruthlessly parodied this trope.
That movie is incredibly clever for what it is.
Reuben Staley
Only for what it is?
You have to BELIEVE in yourself, I know that sounds like a quote from a cat motivation poster, but it's true!
This is all true, because it rhymes.
Alex Stallwitz I recommend playing A Bard's tale. It massively makes fun of this trope too.
Imagine this: the “chosen one” beats the dark lord only to learn that the prophecy was never talking about him
@ehud kotegaro What special?
Percy jackson?
Blade Runner 2049, but in that case it's the reveal what pushes him to beat the bad guy.
I saw this video and had a little bit of a twist in my story. Then I decided to twist it even further and really throw a wrench in things.
A race created by a dark wizard is near extinct, and a clan of Elder Seers saw that this race will topple a rising darkness. One of the last two is the king of an empire, and the other is an assassin of an organization aiming to overthrow the empire. I was originally going to have the assassin topple the empire, but then I also heard through TWA that evil is often undone by it's own hand. So the king summoned a demon too powerful for him to control too long, and said demon will kill him. He indirectly caused the empire to fall as one of the last two of the race by summoning a demon.
@@healyhurst7829 That's a great story.
I remember reading a short story about a dark lord who is told a prophecy that a boy from a certain village would 'rise up, dismantle his government and cast him out of his palace' so he goes to this village finds the three most likely candidates adopts them and turns the village into an experiment for social reform in his empire, as the story goes along the three boys start to take more of an interest in politics and change some of the dark lords long-standing policies, until he retires and names one of them his hair and it's only when he's leaving his fortress for the last time that he realizes that the prophecy was technically fulfilled
That's an interesting take on the concept, got a hearty laugh out of me.
Idk man if it was me I'm sure I won't be flattered to be named the HAIR of a Dark Lord :3
I think they ment "Heir", not "Hair"
The one who wrote this story is a genius as people say,slowly but surely
Some even adds more plot twist as when the Dark Lord's past was a normal folk believes they were a chosen ones from the exact prophecy but their flaws made them fell to the darker side, leading them to their doom and eventually changed them to the Dark Lord like Anakin, Superboy or that short series I forgot.
“I am the chosen one. That means I’m allowed to steal whatever healing items I find, enter houses at will, and break every pot in a 100-mile radius with no consequences!”
Edit: excuse me? You give THIS one 4k upvotes? It’s a half-funny Zelda joke, I’ve posted funnier material than this!
Hey, link had to do the water temple. That's more than enough suffering for all of his lifetimes.
You just described Skyrim
Pottery is a dying business anyway...
Link in almost any zelda game be like:
You can say Link it’s ok-
Someone should write a story where everybody is the Chosen One. Larry was chosen to buy bread on his 15th birthday. Thomas had an appointment with a tailor as foretold by the Oracle. Etc.
SumGuy People probably wouldn’t find that interesting but you could rip off the Incredibles or the Bible make someone jealous enough to try to make everyone the chosen one.
Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning already did that in a way; everyone in that world is 'chosen one' where everyone's fate has been woven into the tapestry of fate, while you the player are sort of the 'unchosen one' who actually can create his own path.
Tales of Symphonia plays around with the chosen one trope, where there are multiple chosen ones but across generations, where even if one is the chosen one they're not guaranteed to save the world at the end of the day as many chosen ones have died before the events of the game, and even once the world is "saved" it turns out it's one big sham of two parallel worlds syphoning each other of their life force, and the whole chosen one system was put it place by the big bad
There was a joke like that on God, the Devil, and Bob. Bob is told by God he's his special guy so thinks nothing can harm him. He goes skydiving without a parachute and God has to tell him "Your my special guy, the pilot is my special guy. The road crew who will be scraping you of the asphalt, he's my special guy." and has to explain to Bob that there is just dumb luck.
Man, I miss that show.
Wasn’t everyone the chosen one in the LEGO movie
I would totally watch a movie where The Chosen One's destiny is to fix a toilet. Have them be germaphobic or something, so they're trying to avoid the inevitable.
Batfan1939 lol yes please I'm not sure if I could write it but I'd definitely read it
Sounds like something ONE would write.
Sounds like an Edgar Wright film.
RIP Polnareff
Batfan1939 Watch the tv show Community then.
Remember when the LEGO Movie pulled that awesome twist about their Chosen One prophecy and ended up doing it better then most Hollywood movies?
Yeah that was great.
Yep-
are you talking about ninja go ?
@@SousukeAizen421 No, pretty sure the original commenter was talking about the original Lego Movie, called "The Lego Movie".
The lego movie was great
Noel The LEGO movie is literally a rip off of The Matrix Emmet= Neo
Megamind actually tackles this concept of the chosen one very well, in the scene where his parents are sending him off the planet they say “You’re meant for...” and it cuts off. It leaves it ambiguous but it also underlines the importance of megamind. We the audience are supposed to fill in the blank and interpret it which makes me appreciate the movie so much more.
And Metroman is supposed to be a chosen one but just wants to live a normal life
@@cosmicspacething3474 i thought he wanted to live lives that gave him recognition like being a superhero or being musicman
@@bluelandyaandgreenlandya1788 I'm pretty sure he wanted to be a normal person because all of them had the choice to be who they wanted but everyone just expected him to save the city from childhood.
@@ww.DuzaFizz He became tired of the Superhero life.
He became a shell of what he once was on the inside, so he decided to fake his death, so he could fill that and be himself again.
He put a lot of thought into his and Megamind's antics.
Metroman also has a motto, "If there is evil, good will always rise up to stop it."
He believed that even when he retired, a new hero would rise to take his place...
He just didn't realize who that hero would be.
Megamind wanted to fit in with others, but his social outcast nature and prison teachings, as well as being the odd one out foiled him into a super villain, cause he believes that's what society wants from him, all he'll be.
Megamind is personally my favorite movie, I love the themes and it knows how to explain these themes to kids without sugarcoating.
What makes it better is that the Father lips says Greatness but since we see from Megamind view,We dont know it the first time
Does this mean that spy kids 3 is well written, the “chosen one” dies in like 3 seconds and the others have to pick up the slack
No. Just because a story has a single interesting idea doesn't automatically make it good.
Huh neat
Was it really that bad? I remember liking it
nargacuga05 better than most fantasy
Spy Kids 3 is the best thing ever written
Love triangles? I prefer love hexacontakaienneagons. They're clearly the best writing device.
How many sides is that.?
69 !
One
don't you mean love rhombicosidodecahedron
Love interests are like a good spice, you sprinkle a ton of them over the story to make it interesting.
I knew a chosen one story, he killed the people who he prophesied to save and then took over the galaxy because of a guy who calls himself the senate
Man, it would be rad to see the senate generate lightning from his fingers, all that power probably motivated the chosen one to join him
HansyPansy and scream "uNlImItEd PoWeR!!"
I heard about that story too. But I thought this “senate” guy wasn’t the senate yet.
@@annnnnnnn394 But at that point, it was treason then
@@Mynti_Dragon man. That guy would be too dangerous to be left alive.
How DARE you sarcastically insult the chosen ones. I am a chosen one myself. According to the profecy I will spend my whole life living in my moms basement.
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tendies
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I'm going to write a story about a perfect chosen one fighting an evil empire while spreading the message of environmentalism with the help of a vampire and a werewolf who went to a magic school with her set in a post apocalyptic fantasy world populated by aliens that have weapons of mass destruction but die from pollen allergy and undead slashers, the story will of course be resolved through a love triangle.
Sounds perfect. Do it.
George Zhang I would give all of my money to buy that book.
Is the chosen one an elf with perfect hair? If so, I would totally buy it.
+Cupcake Wolf and with two rare eye colours. But they're very plain-looking.
Name them Mary Sue
Make the antagonist as the chosen one and let's watch the protagonist struggle against the fate. The moral of the story? Nothing is set in stone and the fate is in your hands.
Fearofthemonster Please write this.
I lack the commitment to write. I always leave them unfinished.
this kinda sounds like berserk which i highly recommend
errrr.... Mastemind?
Castlevania: Mirror Of Fate already did that.
Plot twist: the dark lord IS the chosen one.
Star wars?
Vader
pork0 pretty much
So Darth Vader. That's actually cool
Tomix Aster didn’t they do that with Star Wars?
I want two _chosen one_ stories:
1) The "hero" is a psychopath who want to be a "chosen one". So he sneakily arrange the burning of his own village and his parent's murder so he can get on his journey. He'll also murder his hot "love interest" so he can have an awesome tragic moment in his story.
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2) The _chosen one_ is actually a decoy created by the kingdom so that some special forces or army can get behind the enemy lines and vanquish the Dark Lord with a surprise attack. The hero and his companions are not aware of that, of course.
Woah, now that's som big brain writing ideas ngl
Now that would be a good story.
#2 is awesome! ❤️👌
I am doing the option two, but saying that the hero eventually will turn to fight the royal ending in a big bloodshed and chaos, only for the prophet to achieve his long waited vengeance against the royal, the people and even the "bad guys", if the hero dies in the process, he will just point another one... A little too edgy, i know
That first one reminds me of a really dark Pokemon Nuzlocke story where the main character is an absolute PSYCHO. He did beat N and Ghetsis, but his own Pokemon KILLS HIM for being weak. I think it was called Pitch Black.
Actually I was planning to write a fantasy story in which the prophesised chosen one destined to defeat the ultimate evil is actually the villain. Having been told all along that he was the most special person in the universe he goes on to do terrible things in search of more power to help him fulfil the prophecy under the assumption that he couldn't be in the wrong, because destiny told him so.
Pretty interesting idea
The only aspect to that I can't remember seeing in the text of a story is the fact that this character actually is the chosen one of the prophecy. I can think of a few characters who justified their actions with "I'm chosen, because Fate says so", but it turns out they're not, so it looks like they're just assholes using someone else's word for their own gain.
You should look into the Miracleman series by Alan Moore, it has this good guy becomes bad guy in a very fucked up way.
Yeh I feel like a few stories have sort of pulled that. Like Deathnote, except light was never really a chose one- it all pretty much happened because a death god got bored and Light convinced himself he was a miracle to the world. .
Richard Jones soooo.....anakin skywalker?
That's what I liked about the Lego Movie. It turned out that wizard's prophecy was a lie to get the main character to go on a journey to stop President Business. Everyone was able to rise up and defeat President Business in reality. That was a cool twist on that whole plot.
Having said that, I liked that sort of plot in Dragon Ball Z, where Frieza wiped out the Saiyan species. But, it turned out he "missed a spot" when he killed them off. The ones he didn't kill just so happened to able to go Super Saiyan. Bad luck on Frieza's part.
DBZ works better because it wasn't a chosen one in particular, just the possibility of some saiyan being able to be a Super Saiyan was enough, in other words, it could be anyone of the saiyans who may eventually rebel against him.
So while Goku was ultimately the guy who beat him, it wasn't a real prophecy with a chosen one, though it did follow the trope in a similar way.
when toei started doing DBSuper, I lost all respect for making more outrageous power scaling when it didn't need to and goku's five yr old son becomes a blue hair screaming piece of shit
@@dex3625 For everything Dragon Ball does right, the power scaling is so goddamned annoying. Even as far back as the first Piccolo and Taopaipai, Goku gets defeated by them, but instead of studying why he lost and trying to find weaknesses in them or eliminate weaknesses in himself, he just "gets stronger", or unleashes "hidden strength", like a stat increase in an RPG. It's as if Toriyama is mixing up Dragon Ball with his work on Dragon Quest.
There are times, such as his fight against Tenshinhan, where Goku does win through fighting smartly. But the "just get stronger" bullshit happens so many damn times throughout the series it really pisses me off, and I didn't even bother watching Super after I heard it was pulling even more of that crap to an ever greater extent.
@@Dudebox64 bruh, new hair color=character development
in the lego movie there was abnormal amounts of evidence he was special so him not being the chosen one was more of a plot hole then anything else since the moral was kind of played out.
"We should just wait around for someone special to fix all of our problems."
This is one of my major gripes with the entire superhero genre.
That was basically a core plot point of Incredibles 2.
Yes! I feel the exact same way with every superhero story out there.
@@100lovenana Acceptable in the case of the superhero genre. No one is capable of actually facing the villains. It would be like me telling you to go stop a group of attacking terrorist instead of waiting for the arrival of the police.
@@davidashton3671 Stop being a pussy and go fight terrorist without any training, weapons or special powers
You expect a radom joe to be able to stop an eldericth abomination?
"I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate"
What does that make us?
@@hildakoshill7012 ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
@@abhainnxv1554 *Which is what you are about to become*
That *could* mean that the guy is just our cousins roomate
(Fathers-brothers-nephew)
@@armokil that's what i'm saying!My uncle's niece would be ME, and so it would be That he's just my cousin's former roommate
One of my favorite twists on this trope comes from the Percy Jackson series, which actually does something legitimately unique and surprising with their prophecy and chosen one arc - (SPOILER if you haven't read the Percy Jackson series) in the end, it's NOT the main character whose the chosen one of the prophecy, it's his arch-rival whose aligned with the main villain. Percy doesn't save the world by defeating Kronos with some prophesized 'power of destiny' crap, Luke does. Percy saves the world by yielding, by not fighting and believing in his former friend to do the right thing. And that is SO much more powerful than some 'destiny'.
That actually isn't so unique. I've seen it done at least a couple of times elsewhere.
@@Former_Halo_Fan it's weird, the universe is based off Greek myths so there are a lot of prophecies, its a whole thing, it's more unique from the execution, because there are a bunch of options for chosen ones, but then it's none of them.
That's basically EVERY CHOSEN ONE TROPE in fictional literature and television. In the end he's still the "Chosen One", even other characters comments that the MC is the Chosen one.
The books are great, its fanbase is full of selfish assholes
Watched the Percy Jackson movie before I read the book. During the movie I was waiting for it to be over every second. During the book I never wanted it to end.
The movie sucks
Concepts:
- Chosen One is killed before the beginning of the story, unbeknownst to everyone. The prophecy as it is known is vague, but the real prophecy is actually very detailed and precise - and completely wrong as it turns out. A hero rises to the occasion, but the legendary weapon informs him that he doesn't fit the description of the Chosen One. The hero argues that the Chosen One hasn't shown up and the world needs saving _now,_ so the legendary weapon accepts. The unchosen hero proceeds to save the world, in defiance of the actual prophecy.
- Chosen One is alive and well, but not the protagonist. The protagonist is a minion of the dark lord and student of magic. Chosen One repeatedly attacks the dark lord's fortress, but fails time and again. One day, Chosen One tries to attack again but is met with surrender. Protagonist has already killed the dark lord, permanently, in Chosen One's absence. Turns out the minions didn't like the dark lord either.
That Idea sounds a bit like you are struggling to not have a choosen one but you still have one
For the first story what if the legendary weapon doesn’t accept so the hero has to fight some other way, or give it up for someone else who fits the description (if there is)
The first idea is actually what they did in TloZ: The Wind Waker. Link's sister is kidnapped and he actually "forces" Hylia to accept him as the "chosen one"
The second one could make for great fantasy comedy.
What about a character that's not the chosen one, yet manages to defeat the evil dark lord without using the magic sword / power up destined for the chosen one as the only way to overthrow him by using some clever countermeasure?
of course no one will question the credibility of this prophecy ever
Thing is, I'm writing a story where not only does someone do exactly that (or rather, question if it is in fact a prophecy), but the Chosen One is the one doing it.
Nah, that would require characters to be self aware, and nobody has time for that! (Sarcasm)
What would be funny is a story where we discover, at the end, that the prophecy was actually bullshit all along.
Gordonkris so the lego movie
Except some pretentious general within the resistance who will look down upon the chosen one and ignore him, only to suffer a horrendous defeat and bow down to the chosen one for the rest of the story.
And remember... the prophecy was foretold 1000 years ago.
VintageGamer It is actually 962 years, but 1000 sounds more ominous...
The unwilling Chosen One:
"Has it ever occurred to any of you that we might not be able to trust the words of a bunch of senile old men who died five centuries before I was born?!"
The prophecy was spoken in a dead language whose connotations differ greatly from current languages and therefore can prove fatally wrong if interpreted incorrectly...
Now _that_ would be an interesting story. You're the chosen one and each mysterious old man you meet has a completely different interpretation of your destiny. So finally you ask 'ye olde towne librarian' and she reveals the true passage and its most literal translation... but by the end of the game/series/whatever it turns out even that one was false, because you need to translate thought by thought, not word by word? Either that, or the prophecy was originally 'translated' from gold plates via magic hat, and they don't say anything about a prophecy at all.
Many myths have a cyclical world. How about a story where the chosen one is part of this cycle. So, he feels like nothing matters and doesn't fight the dark lord?
Chosen One stories for MMOs is almost the most immersion breaking bullshit that exists.
Self conscious MMO You're the choosen one
Choosen one: Like the billion others who saved the world already but sonehow the evil respawns like its a MMO
· 0xFFF1 like WOW lmao
Just about to say WoW lol, the best is the instances where you see 30 other people all doing the same thing and some dude is talking specifically to YOU
If everyone becomes the Chosen One, do they stop being Chosen Ones?
"When everyone is super....no one will be."
Somehow, I get the feeling these videos are examples of what NOT to do.
Nah...
Luke William they re you dumb as.
That is a reason why he name his channel TERRIBLE Writting Advice
Untitled and Just: Whoosh or troll?
because these are
My English teacher is rewriting her entire curriculum because of you. I showed her your Evil Empires video and she just instantly fell in love with your way of explanation.
God damn I wish I had gone to your school.
I hope this is a joke. I really do. This channel basically tells you what NOT to do!
Kelcey ...
Kelcey that's the point
VocalCalibration Aiden Scott I know I was joking
This is a big part of why I love the Berserk series so much. Guts, the protagonist, is essentially an anti-chosen one. A normal person who overcomes adversity through his sheer strength and determination to survive... As he's called by an enigmatic figure from that universe- the "struggler". Called as such because he is fighting AGAINST the very nature of fate/causality rather than acting as an emissary of it. A normal human who's fate was to be a demonic sacrifice, now undertaking an impossible mission to destroy his world's apparent equivalent of gods/demons/angels.
Anyone who's interested in a good story with well fleshed out characters and a constant philosophical undertone should not sleep on Berserk
@@TheApostelicPrincess for the story or the animation? Re Zero in the WN are really good, while Berserk got an awfull animation, but the manga was one of the best out there
@@TheApostelicPrincess it's older in like, 2 years. It's not that much of a difference
You forget to mention that the main antagonist is the chosen one instead.
Why isn't this shown in high school English classes?
Ha, good one.
Ginger Grant cuz kids are dumb
Ginger Grant because they aren't creative writing classes
Yeah there are.
I CRI EVERY TEIM
This was done exceedingly well in Morrowind.
Basically, the player character fulfills some criteria of an ancient prophecy, telling of the reincarnation of a legendary dark elf hero. So you set out doing some tasks, researching the other criteria of the prophecy, etc.
So as you slowly begin to fulfill the criteria, everyone is like "yeah, you might be, you might not. If you survive this trial, we will just assume you are."
You go to some remote location, where the Daedra Azura tells you that you are indeed the Nerevarine... But even then who will believe you? Just because you claim that some goddess told you that you are indeed the chosen one? So by various means, you go get support from all the tribes and the three great houses and that settles it. Because when the leaders of all the factions on the damn island say that you are the chosen one, then people might as well just roll with it.
Even after you have defeated the big bad of the story, and Azura appears before you again, you STILL don't know whether you are actually the reincarnation of Nerevar or whether Azura was just through some convoluted plot fooling some random mortal into killing a demigod she herself could not touch due to her limited influence on the mortal plane.
naphackDT The thing I like about it as well is that there's a cave in the game full of ghosts that were supposedly the Nerevarine. Meaning that there were people before the protag that fit the criteria for the Nerevar.
I still prefer the Hero of kvatch. He was a criminal, like the nerevarin, but instead of turning good from a prophecy like the nerevar, he turns good because the emperor told him to. (The hero wasn't there because of the emperor's dreams, he was in the emperor's dreams because he was there.)
Tes games post their third game always have some prophecy. There might be next prophecy on the next es game if they don't follow the first and second tes plots. Nerevarine Prophecy, Emperor's Dreams and Alduin's Wall were the main triggers of the game's main purpose themselves.
I still prefer the hero of ferelden since it his destiny and so is those with the blood of the grey Warden to stop the Blight and along the way you can do some pretty cruel choices
also fallout 2 your town chooses to go trough trials to get the geck and avoid death but outside your town literaly no one cares of your title so you do normal crap and destroy the corrupt us goverment
Anakin may be the Chosen One, but Kenobi was the Obi One!
Actually anakin wasn't the chosen one the high ground was
Shadowmaster 192192 I thought it was the coarse sand...
"Obi Wan, you're our Obi hope!"
Yes, Master Kenobi is truly Wan of a kind.
TheDarthDestruktor gay
boooooh.
I really like how in Ninjago, the chosen one and "dark lord" are father and son who deeply care for each other and don't want to fight. But destiny kinda forces them to.
*Protagonist:* How do you know so much about me?
*Antagonist:* I followed you on Twitter.
*Antagonist:* _now let's make out_
*Protagonist:* _what?_
*Me:* *_ok_*
megumin I ship it.
Ok
Comedy homicide
Rey and Kylo in a nutshell
Vinyl mayadere...
Funny how the one movie character who’s out right called the chosen one actually fell and became a dark lord
But in the end, he fulfils the prophecy by betraying the true dark lord.
Technically he did bring balance because there wasn't enough darkness to come around and too much light
even out the playing field
Kung Pow?
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!!
Imagine in a surprisingly idyllic town in a supposedly grim and dark dystopia a child being born. Suddenly, the sky clears up to throw a single beam of light at the baby and melodic latin chanting is being heard from the distance. This child eventually grows up to avoiding to learn that they're the chosen one at any costs. Mysterious glowing sword found in the woods? How about not touching it but telling the officials about it. There's a wise old man creeping around the city for decades now? Let's do the reasonable thing and not talk to him. Soldiers are approaching the city? Let's move to another city. At the climax the dark overlord catches up the hero and offers him either a position at his side or deadly combat. The hero of course choses the position at -Saurons- the dark overlords side and has a pleasant life as politician. The end.
LeSpeederus good, but you failed to work in the required memory loss angle.
Someone make this comedy now!
LeSpeederus the most ridiculous part of all of that is "pleasant life as a politician"
But where's the love triangle?
On the wise old man - how about the chosen one has him arrested for stalking?
The LEGO Movie actually used this pretty well, especially when Vitruvius reveals that the prophecy was made up.
yeah it did pretty well
If I was the evil overlord, I'd ignore the chosen one. Give him no special attention. I'd regard prophecy as non-sense. Not only that but after my conquests I'd set up a stable meritocracy where the most skilled and bright rise to the top, the strongest warriors become the trainers of the military, the brightest minds lead the sciences. And by the time the chosen one was born, my conquests would be in full swing and if said chosen one was born in my empire, he/she would have a merit based system to live up to and would probably end up heir to my empire. And if they where born in some other nation, no special treatment, no special units specifically on chosen one duty. In fact I'd just leave them be.
Also... I'd denominate my empires resources, training, and infrastructure evenly across the entire empire. That way there isn't a single 'weak spot' to strike.
I remember reading a concept of the story, where there was a prophecy, how those kids will banish the evil overlord out of his castle. The evil overlord in question finds those kids, adopts them and raises them as his heir. They learn everything well, especially politics and economics, prove themselves as competent rulers, so, as the time goes, the evil overlord gives his throne to his heir, who have far surpassed him as rulers, then packs up to leave for the nice retirement house near the beautiful lake, exits the castle... and understands, that the prophecy has just been fulfilled.
What if they forms a revolutionary front against your model society ? Also, since your "empire" is a meritocracy, how will you secure your place and power ?
I don't this wouldn't work though, a profecy is a profecy.
Meritocracy is the Mary Sue of governance.
Makes me think of Fire Emblem Three Houses. Though I personally don't see Edelgard as evil.
In fairness to HP, the only reason why Harry is The Special, is because Dark Lord Voldy validated the prophecy by knowingly engaging it, instead of, you know, ignoring it like he should have done.
True. Other people made Harry "the chosen one", it wasn't a gift from some unknown, transcendental force.
I thought the books (and Dumbledore) make a pretty big effort to point it out.
Well, even if he did avoid it, he risked letting Harry grow up surrounded by the greatest wizard alive, lots of aurors, and training to high hell. So it was either take a chance by MAYBE killing Harry, or do nothing and basically cement your death. So Voldy was drawn a losing hand from the start and was basically fucked either way.
Yep, this is the way how this genre works fine. There was no chosen one untill no nose Voldemort just went on a rampage and fabricated one by accident. Harry had no real powers or anything that made him special, other than his connection to Voldemort which wasn't a real advantage. And he only survived the murder spell because of one item he managed to obtain that gave him a second chance at life.
Where did the prophecy come from in the first place? I've forgotten and don't want to go slogging through wiki pages for an answer
Not first.
Honestly, your videos have the perfect balance of information and entertainment, and that's hard to do.
at the obvious risk of sounding cynical so did Game Theory when it was starting out. now its just gotten sloppy and just soullessly follows whatever's popular, oh that new DLC for Dark Souls 3 better release a theory on it that will make anyone who has even played 10 minutes of this game will cringe at.
my point is all good things pass eventually.
I still find his content enjoyable, and theories interesting (even though they have the occasional hole in them)I really really really hope I don't sound like a fangirl, I respect your opinion and just wanted to add my two cents.
well as long as we can disagree and still respect one another I guess that's good.
You'reThatMantis, I feel that so hard. I used to love GT, but now I get legitemately angry just by looking at the thumbnails that show up in my recommended videos.
Yeah, it used to be about approaching video games with a real life lens. Now its just a sloppy, string together of plot points to make a big statement for whatever game is popular. I miss the time when MatPat consistently applied science to games, regardless of how "realistic" the game itself was. Every now and then there are still a few gems imo, but his theories feel unimaginative and lazy.
Chosen one: *burning*
Comic relief character: *Z A P P E R S*
Chosen One's are so last decade. That's why my story is going to have a Chosen duo!
Twixieshores twin star exorcist?
Twixieshores what about a chosen trio? that's also a love triangle!
A chosen duo can actually work out!
Twixieshores Mario & Luigi?
Twixieshores Sadie and Carter Kane?
Ok, now we all have to ship Mary Sue and the Chosen One, it all works out!
Wait...
Somethings missing...
Oh right!
A LOVE TRIANGLE!
But who should the 3rd person be?
The Dark Lord, jealous of the Chosen One's Chosen-ness because... because.
The McGuffin of course!
Why not both? Form a love square!
how about the Anti-Sue?
^ Who is unknowingly the main villain through magic stuff.
Makes you appreciate Avatar: The Last Airbender even more. That is how you handle a chosen one story correctly.
exactly what I thought of when he talked about stress and conflict in the chosen one
I would say Percy Jackson also handles the chosen one prophecy really well
Avatar is just a trope destroying machine
@@ethanmcfarland8240 It really is. The best way to break a trope is to use it and then subvert it. Not in the "recent star wars trilogy" way, but in the "Knives Out' way.
Yeah one of my favourite details is that the avatar is meant to restore balance to the world. It never means aang is the only one who can restore balance. Theres always a chance he could fail and it could be up to the next avatar. So there's still some tension on whether or not he'll succeed.
The prophecy is true! It was told long ago, that a RUclips channel known as "Terrible Writing Advice" would one day make a video on chosen ones. The video would be around five to six minutes long. Discussing the paradox that comes with telling such stories. How the movie industry loves telling such stories. Now that the prophecy has now been fulfilled, I can now rest in ease.
ruclips.net/video/uwmeH6Rnj2E/видео.html
So going by the logic presented in this video the dark lords best plan for success is just to find anyone who fulfills the prophecy and give them a life of comfort free from the struggles of the rest of the world, if they never see suffering then they will never get the hero's call. Imagine a world where the chosen has been found numerous times but each time the bad guy simply puts them on an island paradise and they never use their destiny infused gifts to serve anyone but themselves.
kind of reminds me of the beyonders series. the dark lord in that series took anyone who was a threat to him to a paradise full of food and maids.
At which point you get the less-common but still classic story of the spoiled prince(ess) with a heart of gold who is ignorant in the ways of the world (and therefore "pure"), who finds out their stepdad has been commiting evil acts and runs away from home to form a resistance movement to overthrow them, discovering more about the world and the Evil Emperors evilyness and meeting a hunky bad boy rogue/pretty peasant girl to form their love triangle with (the third one is their arranged fiancee, who turns out to be evil but redeemable and who they have to fight with as much angst as possible).
at least then tho the story becomes about redeeming one self and taking your life in your own hands and dealing with the chose you want to make.
This is, of course, the story of the Buddha's life and destiny still managed to bite his father in the rear. The life of luxury lead him to experience the falsity of his life and therefore to set out on a hero's journey to seek truth and an escape from the suffering that he powerfully and suddenly discovered in the world (since such suffering was never normalized for him due to having lived in his pleasure palace for so much of his life).
strangehorizons.com/fiction/another-end-of-the-empire/
I feel like this is relevant to your interests, there's a great narrated version somewhere too.
I love how you wrote J.P. as a tragic figure, with his use of complex narrative insight on occasions and expansive vocabulary hinting at mountains of missed potential and hidden skill, all willingly and unknowingly suppressed by his own short term, egocentric mindset, while still giving self-depreciating humour on occasion to hint at him being slightly aware of his own self-squandered skill.
Oh shit
How dare you deeply analyze Funny Love Triangle Man?
makes it seem way deeper than it is
I have an idea that’s probably already done by now, but what about a story told from the sidekick’s point of view, and it shows the “chosen one” after the prophecy, drunken by the amount of love, praise, and power they received, that they eventually begin to desire more power and start to take over world governments one by one, abusing the insane amounts of power he received thanks to the prophecy to overpower armies and nuclear weapons, and now the hero’s original friends have to rise against the seemingly unstoppable “hero” of the prophecy.
Great quote good subtext
@@Egghead012
Or you're Superman, who in his long career has managed to to both. Several times, actually.
Basically Berserk tbh.
Thomas Boeve God damnit you beat me to it.
Mooeymaster46
I mean, the game SteamWorld Quest kinda does something similar to this but it’s a bit different.
only irresponsible teenagers can save the world: every anime
Majority of those journey types of anime are like that but not all of them are.
Me:laughs in MHA
Every Gundam ever.
Not EVERY anime
That describes Joseph Joestar in Part 2 perfectly
Am I the only one who question himself who those damn prophecy writers are?
Hmm, I never thought about that?
I'd like to see a story about the writer of prophecy actually revealed as a war profiteer.
Ancient men from before history back when the first big war was fought that have since become legend
I always imagined them as some fanatic priests desperately trying to make sense of the slurred ramblings of some schizophrenic holy monk gone insane from years of ascetic life far away from society and stoned out of his mind on some magical psychoactive drug.
Professor Trelawney made the one in the Harry Potter universe, so I’d assume they’re all just old soothsayers who are viewed as hacks but can actually predict pretty important things.
would be funny to write a book ware the main character thinks they are the chosen one throughout the whole story and finds out at the end they are not. or one ware the prophecy is simply wrong.
chosen one: but the prophecy said I would defeat you
Villain: you believed that? it was written by shaman hundreds of years ago while they were high on crack.
chosen one: *hangs head in defeat, feeling dumb*
Haha.
thundermw That kinda happened in Percy Jackson and the Olympians lmao
It's an old book, but "May Bird and the Ever After" did that.
thundermw There was a Fairy Odd Parents movie where they thought Timmy was a chosen one, only to figure out after he defeated the bad guys that he wasn't supposed to be the one who saved the day
another one that would be funny is one ware it turns out the villain secretly wrote the prophecy himself just to mess with people and see how many stupid plucky teenagers would show up at his door trying to fulfill it.
That's why I love the way they handled the chosen one in Dark souls. The story goes that only only the chosen one would be capable of escaping the asylum and rekindle the fire, when in fact, there were many "chosen ones" before you that escaped the asylum, only they failed in their quest. In the end, you're just being manipulated.
Being just another regular undead on the path to hollowing puts things in perspective, and gives a whole lot more meaning to the "side quests", the personal adventures other NPC's are having while you're not around, since they are just another random person trying to live their life just like you are. This is very clear in 3, the final fight in the ringed city, no climatic ending, no god-entity, the final fight is fought by two regular undead, nearly hollowed, amidst the dead empires once ruled by gods and legends who died way before. Also a perfect callback to the final fight in 1, where you fight Gwyn once the god who slew the dragons, now a hollowed shell of his former self. Just another one, broken, unfit to keep the fire lit.
I really like the way that Dark Souls 3 handled the chosen one. After all, the entire reason the events of the game happen is because the chosen one, Prince Lothric, refused to re-link the fire. That one decision basically caused all of the game's other events.
One of the ways I liked the chosen one plot done was in an anime called Konosuba where the "chosen one" wasn't special and was just given a special power simply just to get some shit done that was bugging the gods of that world.
In the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity, we, eventually, learn, that our protagonist wasn't the only chosen one, dragged from their world into this one to save it... he/she is just the only one, who wasn't quickly killed by the Kyurem and the rest of Bittercold's cultists. So yeah, the Voice of Life, one of the good guys, was summoning and throwing humans at the problem until one of them got lucky enough and solved it.
Story idea: Since chosen ones always begin the quest after their hometown is destroyed by the Dark Lord, the Dark Lord tracks down the chosen one not to attack, but instead to try and make their life as comfortable as possible so that they'll never want to begin their quest. Circumstances conspire to bring the chosen one down, but the Dark Lord must make sure it never happens so that the chosen one can remain happy in their peaceful little village while the Dark Lord's forces can be free to rule in terror everywhere else.
That's actually an interesting idea
The funny thing is, the whole "the villain should have just ignored the prophecy" rant is basically exactly what gets pointed out in Harry Potter - Harry's prophecy included a few lines that mentioned that the ultimate determiner was that Voldemort would go after him specifically, thereby marking him as an equal. Voldemort didn't hear this part - if he had, and then chose to leave Harry alone, then Harry would have never obtained his motivation or the "power of love" magic that defeated Voldemort the first time and protected him for three books.
Yeah, but you are forgetting the part were the prophecy was butchered by Rowling, because the original idea is that Harry was going to turn into a murderer by killing Voldemort, that was the first five books of the sagas were leading to, but of course, Rowling get coward by the end, and decided not to deal with the consequences of that, you known, Harry actually having character development by doing things that actually aren't heroic like killing someone, but no, throw all that to the trash, so she created the stupid Horcrux that never weren't mention before in the previous books, and write the idiotic Deus Ex Machina scene with the Elder Wand taking Harry out of the guilt of killing Voldemort at the end. Rowling basically raped her own story and character for a cheap pay off.
Eh I think the horcruxes were always a part of the story. They were too well placed in the previous books.
Also a lot of creators kind of weasel out of getting blood on their character's hands or only dabble in it . (Particularly I am thinking of Yu Yu Hakusho my favorite anime, which has a bad habit of not letting people die, or not letting protagonists kill certain people who reasonably would be killed).
I don't really see it as tainting the overall story, but it's a little frustrating.
I don't mind stories that stay generally upbeat through it all, and actually kind of miss them in a day where everyone has to die and be jaded.
The Elder Wand wasn't a Deus Ex Machina. At that point in the story, the mechanics of wand loyalty and how wands will work for the victor of a wizard fight had already been established. The reader had enough information that they could piece together the chain of combats and realise for themselves how things would go down. Harry even spelled out the entire chain of events before the duel, and told Tommy exactly how things would go down. But Voldemort ignored the warning, exactly how he ignores any magical lore he considers unimportant. Gives the whole thing a nice hoist by his own petard feel, totally in line with the running theme of evil being short sighted and self-destructive.
As for horcruxes, I think it's safe to say that the idea of Voldemort splitting his soul up was percolating in her head from at least the second book, with Riddle's diary. It's not an original idea after all, most fantasy fans are probably aware of the concept of liches and phylacteries. I'd hazard that she had the whole thing figured out by book 5, when the locket first appeared.
first book is about them using what they learned at school to solve the mystery. (so pay attention in class, kids!)
Then harry jumps the shark and quits school. Wrote herself into a stupidly long 7 year narrative.
Mister Bad Guy Your comment needs more upvotes. Seriously
This is basically a Mary Sues part two.
How to sneak your Mary Sue in a story
Now I want to make a story about a supervillain who's hears of a prophecy that they will lose their kingdom to a special chosen person. They manage to identify them before anyone else, as a very young child, and kidnap it to raise as their own. The Villain acknowledges the power of fate, but is smart and decides they may as well continue their legacy, even after losing power.
didn't something like this happened to Moses in the Bible? it backfired powerfully
Anakin Skywalker is a clever subversion on the Chosen One cliche, because we're told he is the Chosen One, only for his story to turn into a tragedy, and the OPPOSITE of what was foretold happens. Even by Episode 6, the outcome of the Chosen One prophecy is left ambiguous, as it was the individual heroics of his son Luke that ultimately led to the destruction of the Sith. Audience's are left questioning whether Anakin or Luke were the Chosen One, of if the prophecy even mattered.
The moral of the story being that whether you was set up for greatness (Leia being royalty, Anakin being a Chosen One), or born into hardships (Anakin and Luke both being born into poverty, Han Solo living as a smuggler) your destiny and impact on the world around you is ultimately up to you and the choices you make. No prophecy can change that.
Not so clever, though. The Skywalker subversion is just a variation on Dune's Kwisatz Haderach coming just a bit early due to Lady Jessica's love of the Duke (sorry, spoilers. It's in the first chapter.)
I mean he did kill the emperor but Luke did most of the work
I do believe that Anakin is the Chosen One, but I like how it’s up for interpretation 🥰
No, his destiny always implied bad things for the Jedi, as they discussed in Ep I. The Jedi were hoping to manipulate him into only balancing the dark side of the equation, as was Palpatine hoping the chosen one would destroy everyone but themselves.
A magic system terrible writing advice would be awesome! and there are lots of places to find bad ones....
Infodumped pseudo-sciencific magic system, "best" magic system!
Mahouka cured my insomnina. Specially with the Mc breking all the detailed rules one minutes after they are explained...
Jonas Green Magic is the ultimate source of main characters pulling new abilities out of their ass
Mistborn did that pretty well. I don't care for the series as a whole (think it could have and should have stopped at book one), but one of my favorite bits was the allomancy. Tying different powers to specific metals made for a much more grounded magic system than most books. People couldn't just get new abilities by being special or trying really hard, they had to experiment with different metallic compounds and see what happened.
Yes! I need this!
Don't you just love when magic systems are completely vague and don't seem to have any faults or loopholes unless the plot needs one?
Heres an idea for a chosen one story. The chosen one is discovered and is about to begin training with the wise old mentor, but they are overconfident believing that they are destined to win and rush off to fight the villian before they even start their hero training. The chosen one dies and the villian becomes overconfident, believing they have defeated their only real threat which eventually leads to the villain being caught completely by suprise when the average folk rise up and successfully overthrow and kill them.
Similar to the Emperor
Zach Haake So Miraak?
Hmm i thought it had a star wars ring to it
Also who's Miraak again? Is he related to a certain Skyrim DLC?
Also he tries doing good deeds for everyone in the village but most of them fail or even break the law, but because of his cockiness he gets thrown into prison at one point and tries (unsuccessfully) to get the guards to let him out.
@Casandshail He's the anragonist in the Skyrim DLC Dragonborn
"Can't you see, you're the only person spanning across this truly vast and infinite world who can fulfill this oddly specific and tailor-made task to your liking that will, in the end teach you a valuable moral?!"
"But what if I don't want to?" "Then your parents will die to make you go on this quest." ":("
I'm your old and wise mentor. I will teach you everything you will need to defeat the main antagonist except for one crucial thing so you can learn it for yourself in act 3. Don't bother worrying about my character expanding any further than that, since I'm gonna die anyways.
"Inaccurate prophecies or chosen ones turning evil."
"A prophecy that misread could have been."
"YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!"
i'll actually make a boardgame out of taking everything this channel says literally and i will call it: Terrible quest
Utter Perfection at it's finest
Sooo ... that was one year ago, is the boardgame finished? I am ready to throw money at my screen.
We are patiently waiting...
Where's your kickstarter? What's the delay?? Gimme board game!
We want the board game
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!
YOU WERE TO DESTROY THE CLICHES NOT JOIN THEM!
YOU WERE TO DESTROY THE LAZY WRITING NOT LEAD IT IN DARKNESS...
Chosen One:I HATE YOU!
Ironically, Anakin is not a bad example of a Chosen One. Sure, he fulfills the prophecy, but nobody really thought through what that meant. The Jedi were so self-righteous that they didn't realize that in order to bring balance to the force, THEY would have to be cut down, not their enemies.
I liked how being groomed as the chosen one made Anikin arrogant and unable to face his own failers, projecting them on his master as purposefully holding him back.
Nick Johnson
Eh, I still prefer the interpretation were it's Luke who is the true Chosen One who erased the remaining Sith (pre-extended universe and sequels) after the Jedi nearly got wiped out because they became focused more on politics than the will of The Force, with the understanding that the Dark Side itself was the agent of unbalance. It's in the same sense that a balanced breakfast isn't 50% fresh fruit and 50% battery acid.
Chosen One: Where is my fanbase? Are they safe? Are they all right?
Publisher: It seems, in your popularity, you killed them.
I'm constantly comparing the stories I am trying to write to this... Not sure I like what I am seeing in my stories...
Don't be discouraged, just keep your story entertaining. I've loved a lot of works that have clichés in them, and these videos are primarily about clichés.
Worry not good sir, take these lessons and learn
Derek Mijangos If the cliche bothers you enough, you can edit it out of the story. Don't spend too much time trying to make a perfect story, though, because you'll never get it done.
You could point out cliches in every successful book. Don't worry about it. They became cliches because people used them. And people used them because they worked.
Don't be too dismay with what cliches you are using. Remember, all tropes are not bad. It's just depends of how you executed them. You can use that cliche and foil however you gonna do it to make it unique instead of pursuing the story to make it "original" (no tropes and stories are original). For example, Harry Potter did a good job playing around with the chosen one trope. How to Train Your Dragon films contain a abundant of tropes and cliches like the misunderstanding, but how they handled it was extremely well-done and thus ended up being Dreamwork's most successful films.
I liked how in Star Wars Anakon was never given any special treatment as the chosen one, he had to train with all the other apprentices to become a Jedi, and even then was restricted from certain roles because of his rank.
Here is a fun idea for a story: The Dark Lord hears that a chosen one from a certain village will kill him. But being in the dark lord business for a while, he knows that murdering everyone the chosen one ever knew and loved will just make him kill the dark lord even more, so instead he builds the village a hospital.
I was working on a story back in High School with a Chosen One... that I like to think subverted the concept. I had gotten tired of the “chosen one grows up with no knowledge of their destiny” trope, and wanted to see what would happen if the chosen one was actually trained and prepared.
The world was dying, magic was running out, and the “prophecy” was less about fate and more about one unscrupulous seer’s long-term plan to stop the decline by saving up some of the little remaining magic into artifacts that could unlock the potential in two people, so they could break through the four seals and get magic flowing again.
Only...
1. The proxy who was supposed to pick two “chosen ones” decided to save two dying children (a brother and sister) and then went off the grid, instead of picking someone already competent.
2. He raised & trained the siblings and told them they were meant for great things, but never explained himself properly.
3. The younger brother (3 at the time of his empowerment) had zero idea what it was like to be weak or helpless, and became an entitled sociopath with no interest in saving the world. “It’s dying slow enough that I can conquer the land with my magic and live out a life of luxury and power. If I release magic back into the world it will keep everyone from eventually wasting away... but then I’ll just be an average guy because EVERYONE will have these gifts, so no thanks!”
4. The sister was too idealistic to see her brother’s betrayal coming, and got locked in an enchanted sleep for seven years. So when she woke up, she not only had to deal with traveling the land to break the four Seals, but her brother’s army trying to stop her. Oops.
Ajehy dude where is this story, i gotta read it, please
That’s kinda awesome, please tell me your gonna publish it...
Ajehy Um....where is this story, my guy? 👀
That actually sounds REALLY cool
Benu_Bird screen shot it maybe, one day if something shows up, we’ll lnow
This basically explains why the LEGO movie is great
A.H. Holland
"And all this is true
Because it rhymes"
I know it sounds like a cat poster, but it’s true
A special one with face of yellow
What I'm about to tell you will change the course of history.
(dies)
Here's an idea: A story with a chosen one, but instead of said chosen one saving the world or whatever, someone else does. Like, maybe their love interest, or one of their closest friends who's helped them along the way. Or, pull some plot twist where the prophecy was actually faked by the villain/s, and the _real_ chosen one is another member of the hero's party. I think it would be a fun spin on the cliché.
Okay, this is SUPER weird, because literally just this morning i was looking to see if you had made a video about this yet, and a few hours later, here we go
So you are the Chosen One.
No, J.P is the Chosen One.
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE CHOSEN ONE!!
Me too :)
you were supposed to destroy the sith not join them
How about a story where there are multiple prophesies and nobody knows which one is actually true? Does something like this exist?
The "Mallorian", by David Eddings (a five book sequel to his series "Belgariad") is an epic story about two warring prophecies.
S Isn’t that basically Game of Thrones?
real life
@Tangent of circle. That's depressing and inspiring at the same time
The underlander chronicles a little bit, but it’s brought up mostly in the last book out of five
"Your blatant and tone deaf moralizing has changed our entire perspective"
perfect
I’m currently writing a book with a concept of “the chosen one” sprinkled about on the main character, as he was handpicked to assassinate a important politician in another timeline, but for the entire concept turned on its head when the events of the story prove that the main character is one of the worst people to lead. And that there is nothing special about him in particular except for the fact that he has been so destructive to the social dynamic of the world.
When the readers read the story, they would see so many characters that are more worthy of being the hero of the story and should lead instead of the main character. Infact, I’ve even written the story as if another story was already half way in before the main character showed up with his Mission and messed everything up.
And no, I’m not running the cliche where the hero of the story fucks up then fixes it at the end. My hero progressively gets more and more involved past a point where it’s too late to reverse what has been done.
A lot of you might be thinking that why did I write the main character as such a calamity to the story and think the main character won’t be likeable. The issue is, that even the reader won’t realise the main character is constantly making the wrong decisions. The main character has good intentions, and is on the side of morality, but because the main character lacks the perspective of the antagonists, he eventually becomes the villain of the story before we realise it.
The “chosen child” trained to assassinate an authoritarian politician eventually is revealed to have doomed everyone.
Wow, that sounds great 😍😍
Hows the story?
damn, can I have a link of the wattpad or wherever you're writing it
So how's it going?
It's okay if you haven't written anything substantial, my ultimate story set in the Pokémon universe is mostly in my head too.
@@ArcanineEspeon oof, has it really been 9 months since I’ve posted this? I’ve had a hard time getting through Uni, but I’ve made only a bit of progress, but I’ve fleshed our the story a lot more and added a few more side characters that get more prominent in later sequels.
Taking the time off to iterate on this story instead of forcing myself to write it all down has done wonders. I’ve even studied a bit of philosophy and realised so many of my characters hold many philosophical and ethical values that challenge our system norms. I’ve decided to go back and flesh out a lot of these philosophical values and make it a pivotal arc for their character!
What about a chosen one who is told of their destiny, and immediately rejects it, and then just buggers off to a tropical island to have a peacefuller time.
you mean like jonah wanted to? :D
Sounds like Gintoki
Just what Spyro wanted to do
Destiny finds them and forces them to save the world.
Aang from avatar tried to do this
@@billmore6486 one often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it
Hey, I got some ideas you could Terrible Advice on if you haven't already done them:
- How to write sequels/prequels
-Ghost stories
-Body swap stories
-Time traveling stories
-Detective or mystery stories
That's all I got so far, I might let you know if I come up with anymore...
-Ending twists
-Villains
-character development
-character relationships
-Artificial Intelligence
You simply _cannot_ have majorly important AI characters _without_ so much as mentioning one or more of the following tropes:
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AIIsACrapshoot
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DoAndroidsDream
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThreeLawsCompliant
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JustAMachine
Sure they're occasionally subverted rather than played straight, but they'll _never_ be completely averted. Some character will _always_ at least mention one of them, and more often than not the trope will be a large part of the sentient computer/robot's character, and/or a large part of the story's entire plot.
How to write a time travel story: don't.
"We could flesh out the Chosen one with flaws, or use the stress created by fame and the weight of responsability of saving the world to generate meaningful confict"
So The last airbender and Legend of Korra?
My favourite chosen one story I have read, when I was a child my parents got me a short story about Nosferatu.
The openings line still is he best:
_”an ancient evil stalks the land, only one blood line can stand in its way”_
I like it that someone finally called out the classical "i came from a peasant background therefore i make the best king" cliche.
Isn't the excuse for that usually " I grew up poor and had to work for a living not rich and spoiled like that prince or princess." Even though the peasant wouldn't know anything about ruling a country.
Lol at the Wheel of Time references. Especially the farmhand one. It always bugged me how a boy working the fields at a farm somehow became ruler of the world merely because he was super duper special and/or chosen.
IMO, Wheel of Time did the Chosen One about as well as it can possibly be done by using its huge cast to show that no, you DON'T have to be chosen by fate to be instrumental in saving the world. That's why all the non-destined main characters, from Egwene to Androl, are so important.
Yeah, Rand's a bit boring but the other characters make the story.
well i mean if you actually READ the books, he gets drilled on the shit constantly by Egwene, and dosent really DO everything. he dosent deal with finances, or really anything not related to war or certain laws. he had people who WERE experienced in that shit to handle it for him.
tMeanwhile most of the world spends their time hating him and working against him. And he's going mad.
What's really bugging me, though, is that this video depicts Aviendha as blonde. (that, or she and Elayne switched clothes, as Elayne is reddish blonde afaik)
That only applies to the court intrigue aspect in WoT. The rest he leaves in the hands of those actually skilled in those areas. And even in intrigue, the prophecy and his status unbalance the nobles enough to give him time to git gudder at it.
Still don't like the romance portion though.
Also, the two Blind Guardian songs on the series are awesome.
RUclips algorhytms love this guy, a lo of people found him randomly, myself included.
sadly its not for the best reasons but this is still a quality video
Idea:
The majority of a story points to the chosen one being the author, an ugly child. As everyone begins to learn that they must place their trust in the child. Then, as the time of the final battle draws near (or halfway through it) the real hero emerges, a true professional who has been preparing for the moment their whole life. Everyone, despite learning to love the main character, completely abandons them, they return home, and the real hero saves the day. The end.
Tales of Symphonia's plot is awesome because it first starts out like a cliched chosen one story, but eventually it subverts it and reveals that the main villain is behind the chosen one plot all along! It would be awesome for Terrible Writing Advice to write a "How not to make a JRPG" video!
I feel a lot of jrpgs are generally good about not making chosen ones.
I mean usually the person is pushed into it through pure coincidence/ chance or they are just directly related to the whole plot that is going on in some way.
Like Final Fantasy 9, Zidane is not really a chosen one, but the one that was pretty much meant to destory the world- so he's inevitably tied into it, and everyone else is as well (Garnet is a princess, Vivi is a black mage being manufactured, Freya's homeland is directly threatened , etc) and often these games are about defying fate.
Even in something like Crono Cross, Serge is sort of played up to be the cause of everything, but really it was just an anomaly that happened between two parallel worlds caused by circumstances that happened before he could even know about them. He just happened to be the one it happened to.
I guess we could argue that 'chance' can still be a chosen one thing- like with Harry Potter it can be argued it was just chance he was the chosen one (it is highly implied that Neville could have just as easily been the one in Harry's position). So I guess we could say that jrpgs still sort of have a 'chosen one' aspect to them, but they usually feel like a group , not just one that is totally wrapped into something bigger than themselves due to pure chance and not destiny.
Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver/Legacy of Kain: Defiance built up to one of the best fusions of "You can't fight fate" AND "Screw Destiny".
The Tales Of series is built on deconstructing and sometimes reconstructing JRPG Tropes.
"It would be awesome for Terrible Writing Advice to write a 'How not to make a JRPG' video!"
It would, but until then, CollegeHumor's take on that same idea can hopefully tide you over: ruclips.net/video/IptvSQY9Qa8/видео.html
Unfortunately, they don't include any of the green-question-mark segments of what -not- to do instead. (Just a note, I recommend stopping it before their "subscribe to our channel" blurb at the end, too.)
Check out Dune (The books not the movie).
Its basically about why you shouldn't hope for some chosen one (or charismatic leader) to do the job and a ton of additional religious / social and philosophic critique.
why have a love triangle when you can just have a FRIKING HAREM!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!! WHY BOTHER FLESHING OUT ANYTHING WHEN YOU CAN JUST HAVE FANSERVICE
Because not all authors are lucky enough to live in Japan?
Why have a love triangle, when you can have a LOVE DODECAHEDRON?
AimaeArt flesh out your characters with actual flesh
+UltraOrb66 Do I hear a pussy ass nigga chatting shit about our god and savior Ayato Amagiri?
@UltraOrb66 lmao that's not even an exaggeration
I was chosen to write this comment as prophecy foretold.
BEHOLD!!!!!!!!
I foretold you so!
The predictions of the prophets have come to pass!
Thank you Sahil you saved us
The only chosen one story I can think about that actually does something new is
The Star Wars Prequels
The Chronicles of Riddick is actually unclear about the fact who was the chosen one who brought the downfall of the evil overlord: Riddick who finished him, or Purifier who had saved Riddick before on Crematoria from being cremated?
@@Mysikrysa One evil to defeat the other one ... everyone's evil in this movie so it doesn't matter. At the end, nothing changed for the universe. Love the movie.
@@johnleorid Riddick isn´t evil, he´s chaotic neutral. He´s labeled as evil by general society because he killed some people and it´s strongly hinted in Pitch Black it wasn´t just because. He also doesn´t want to convert everyone to insane religious cult, he just wants to be left alone, and he has never killed anyone unless it was neccessary, so I wouldn´t say nothing changed for the universe. Riddick as the leader of the Necros is certainly an improvement when you compare him to Lord Marshal.
And the LEGO movie
"The Hero of Light will triumph and totally become a bestseller and put those stupid bullies ago school in their place who made fun of my fanfics!"
GodwritterT24omni
I love the way UnLunDun handled this trope. There's a protagonist living a nornal life, supernatural shit occurs and a prophecy is made. 3 chapters later, she gets incapacitated and her best friend says "fuck the prophesy" and takes over the role of protagonist for the rest of the 500 page book.
Okay, your name is one of the first ones to make me laugh out loud.
Thanks for the recommendation though.
I love this channel so much. It's one of those rare channels that's both informative and hilarious at the same time.
My favorite type of chosen one/prophesied hero story that I would love to read is one where the hero/good guys team up with the dark lord/bad guys to kill and defy or seal away fate and destiny itself which can be referred by the name narrative or the god or devil that is controlling everything behind the scenes because they want entertainment, because surprise surprise they don’t exactly like the fact that they have nearly no control over their future and that something else is controlling it.
That basically what happen in the final season of supernatural but I won’t say more because spoilers
suggestions for future terrible writing advice videos:
Shakespeare
kids books
poetry
Yes, do poetry!
Casual CraftMan i kinda agree about kids story/ books/ movies. Oh, i might also add :
- artsy film
- religion films
- rasicm-related films
- ancient weapons
- ancient civilization
- madman antagonist (like Joker from Batman)
- cyberpunk
- weird anime-ish super power
I feel like to properly criticize a religious film, you need ot have firm grasp of the religion it's stemming from and its history, to properly point out how bad and inaccurate most films of that type are.
FAH Holliday nah, i don't mean to that extend. What i mean by religious movies are the one that poorly represent and done an incredibly poor job in 'introducing' the religion aspects. So much so, that none of their persuasion makes any goddamn sense, and makes even the religion group itself loathe it
Even religious people hate most religious movies... their music is cool though.
Idea for next video: Memory Loss.
You know Hollywood(the cultural wasteland of america) will get mad if you release all their(thanks Rick) templates to the public right?
Michael Hamilton LMAO
If you think Hollywood is America's cultural wasteland you have clearly never visited the "Bible Belt"...oh, wait, they might just be all the OTHER kinds of wasteland.
California is cancer, the bible belt rocks
Bible belt is awesome bro, don't have to be salty just because you're from the stinky hippie armpit of america (california)
Jordan Thomas Bible Belt>Commiefornia
I once had the idea for a story about a chosen one whose role is to observe a fantasy world over the ages but never directly interfere with the flow of history
Dunno maybe i should just try writing it
Go ahead and do it. Sounds like an interesting plot.
Well if MMORPGs have helped me learn anything at all is that if you live close to a dangerous place then you CAN get the chosen one to do your laundry, it will also somehow make them a tiny bit stronger...
If you have enough laundry, you can get every chosen one to wash it for you as well. Don't worry, you can generate money from nothing, screw inflation.
Douglas Dragon just ask him to get a rare gem for you worth 1000 dollar and pay him 1 for the effort
The most interesting thing about prophecies was Macbeth. It's the dilemma: would the main villain do all the evil things, rise to be a king and then fall, if he didn't hear the prophecy? The words of the hags actually motivated him. The prophecy created itself.
This reminds me of one homebrew DnD character background:
Almost Chosen one - Your sibling is chosen one celebrity and you have lived in their shadow.
With motivations like : "I'll help my sibling."," I will get out of my sibling's shadow." or "I'll save word sooner then my sibling." and even "I'll destroy the word before my sibling saves it."
Hmm.. how about..
A story about the typical “chosen one” Except, they really just don’t want to be a hero. They want to be a normal child, and want to be famous for.. lets say.. writing a book.. And not because she slays some evil lord. Everyone Starts pressuring her about being a hero, and being the chosen, that she straight up snaps and starts hurting- then eventually killing everyone with the powers the gods have given her.
And after all the chaos she has caused, she looks at herself one last time,
Just to realize, she couldn’t live as the hero she meant to be, and lived long enough to see herself become the very thing she was born to kill.
Does it sound good?
I like it
Where can I read this?
That's basically Neon Genesis Evangelion
@@jasonsmith8802 Then why does everyone seem to be mocking it?
@@milicadiy Mocking what, Evangelion or the Chosen One trope?