The Ultimate Cup Z Speedrun In Under 3 Minutes! - Kirby and the Forgotten Land
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Toy Hammer+☆ Ability with Attack and Speed Boosts. Very amazing run, managed to pull out most of important strats, especially fights against Phantom Meta Knight and Chaos Elfilis were fantastic.
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Loved how you bonked in time to the Masked Dedede fight, while waiting for him to jump back
I call this Dedede Begone!
Literally with max damage buffs and fully charged hammer flip he fallen in 2 hits, both of them depleting his entire health
That part was awesome.
Chaos Elfilis didn't even get a chance to start it's real attack pattern in Phase 2, hot damn
*its
@@whycantihaveaproperusernam9384 It is it's
This guy literally spent 2 more then 2x in the preparation room or whatever it's called, then he did battling, wow, very impressive
*than
I don’t know how I’ll ever recover from Toy Hammer being better than the Forgo Hammer. This was such a jaw dropping video to watch.
My jaw dropped when you managed to smack Dedede right before he landed. Seriously, that was awesome, pal!
Even the greatest most powerful bosses in the Kirby series stand no chance against one squeaky bonky boi
😂 “one squeaky bonky boi” 😂
ye, and the only power it was given was fire…YET IT OBLITERATES EVERY BOSS
I just got a 3:50 myself on this one! Maybe I could get sub 3 eventually, I'd just have to get better at the fast kills.
Phantom MK is tricky, just like normal MK, but I'll eventually get the timing down to swat him out of the air.
The fact that 3:50 in the video is meta night dying
Toy Hammer despite being weaker in raw damage it has faster moves especially the charged flaming one.
But i know it was combination of max upgrades and power buff
2:53 Sillydilo phase skip
Hammer flip is busted in any Kirby game
@@HomieUnicorn true
Shall i say it Flips everything off
No offense intended
It took me like 40 minutes for that cup, and most of that was the spherical final boss
My god…I beat that cup in just less than 10 minutes and I thought I was fast as hell…
I've seen many ultimate cup z speedruns before but holy mother of nova this was too quick to be called a massacre.
Execution doesn't even begin to describe how brutal that was
I still can’t believe this toy hammer is better than masked hammer, which is what I use. Anyway, great job!
Even though this is extremely good, I still don't understand how smart Waddle Dee says the Wr for the Meta Knight Cup without power ups is 6 seconds
You can go out of bounds and trigger Meta Knight Cup, then you finish one fight which has Wild Frosty and Wild Bonkers and the game finishes Colosseum after that
@@Samura1man I believe there is a feature in a game that doesn't save a score if a certain value was 0
Toy hammer is a lot more op than I thought!
Niice! We just saw this stat go up on the waddle dee professor
I thought Wise Waddle Dee doesn't count Modifying Items in runs
@@skyguysZ he doesnt
and then theres me with a 20 minute chaos elfilis fight
Toy Hammer is Amazing 🔥
Me: Woohoo! I finally defeated Chaos Elfilis!! 😁
Chaotic Eye: And here we are...and here we are. 😎
Me: 🤯
Akso me: 💀
My own highest time on Ultimate Cup Z was 8 and a half minutes, and I used maxed-out Morpho Knight Sword with Attack Boost. I had no idea getting under 3 minutes was even possible, and out of all abilites, being done with Toy Hammer.
4:53 holy motherfu-
In the gaint elfilis attack, you can just jump over it to avoid the slow down effect, maybe i can help shave off seconds
The timer slows during a "bullet time" dodge, so it wouldn't make any difference.
OH SO YOU'RE THE ONE WISE WADDLE DEE KEEPS MENTIONING
Took me like an hour first time I played it tho I'm planning to get some better times soon since I've 100%-ed the game now
So you are telling me that a big squeaky hammer is far more powerful than the sword of the handbringer of death infused with the most powerful warrior and half of what os descibed as the ultimate lifeform?
When fully powered up Toy Hammer apparently has the strongest single strike in the game. The balance to that is it takes time to charge. With the right timing you can one or two shot pretty much anything except the last few bosses.
WTF. Imagine ability evolutions, power ups, and the buff items like that in the other Kirby games, would their True Arenas be easier or harder than this one?
I think I know why he chose toy hammer, while the other two higher level hammers technically do more damage, masked hammer has to multi hit to do all the damage it does, which takes a long time, and wild hammer is just slow. I think. Barely used it. Even then, the damage barely matters since they're gonna pretty much one shot anyways so toy hammer + ⭐️ makes sense
Also the damage you deal is kinda limited due to the fact that the game pretty much completely disallows you from one shotting a boss
Well judging from this video I can definitely say something is definitely going to get nerfed at some point.
Did you boost the hammer with rare stones on top of the damage boost?
Toy hammer is even more broken than I thought, damn
I think it charges the fastest, and you can upgrade it to do the normal damage of a normal Hamer
So Toy Hammer is fastest, but does it take a whole lot of work to get good at it? I’ve been using powered up space ranger for fights as sort of a safety thing, but I wanna know the best way for my first run through Ultimate Cup Z.
morpho knight sword is probably the easiest to learn and do ultimate cup z with (highest base attack, invincibility after dodging, sword beam, healing as you attack). toy hammer as long as you power it up with rare stones and learn boss attack patterns enough to know when to charge B, you should be good
Frost is my go-to, because the shield makes you immune to damage.
@@SeraphsWitness interesting
@@yejkiryu you healing yourself ? with the weapon ?? i miss 2 stars to get it 😭😭😭😭
Pretty nutty, though I'm curious to how fast it can be done without [drugs] powering the puffball
apl jucie
@@vexi94_ so true
Every error
0:21 Mini bosses have little to no health, supercharged attacks one-shot them.
0:56 Kirby is too fast he can completely avoid the maze.
1:26 Kirby swung forward yet Phantom Clawroline got hit while being behind Kirby
1:31 Kirby is fast enough to hit Phantom Clawroline before the second phase ever starts.
1:47 Phantom King Dedede takes too long to start the fight
2:05 Kirby took damage despite Phantom King Dedede already being dead
2:23 Kirby’s dodge is broken, he goes through things that should hit him.
3:46 Kirby is hitting Phantom Meta Knight while not even being near him.
4:49 Once again, Kirby’s dodge completely defies how damage works.
4:58 More broken dodges, as Kirby goes through the lightning.
5:28 Kirby is so fast Morpho Knight can’t teleport away to even start the second phase.
5:55 At first I thought Kirby actually jumped over the wave but looking at it, Chaos Elfilis’s spear still hit him, so it’s another dodge that defies physics.
6:03 Kirby is so close to Chaos Elfilis the tornados can’t hit him, despite them spawning on him.
6:24 For the next few spear attacks Kirby shouldn’t be able to go through them, Kirby defying physics again.
6:59 Kirby should have been sucked into the black hole yet he wasn’t.
7:13 Ultimate Cup Z in under three minutes, how? Well it’s time to finally mention HOW BROKEN THE TOY HAMMER IS. Maxing out the thing and giving it three attack power ups results in every one in this entire game that has a health bar and boss fight, turning into a normal enemy, it’s that powerful.
Are you using some trick, or is Toy Hammer Flip that overpowered? This definitely has the most ways to cheese an arena out of any Kirby game
Of course maxed out and with buffs
Toy Hammer deals lots of damage when it's fully upgraded and using Attack Boosts helps to deal extra damage. Fully charge Hammer attack is very powerful.
@@Samura1man is it even better than Masked Hammer?
No, if it was we'd be using it more, but we found out Toy Hammer is far better
@@Samura1man cool, thanks for replying!
Chaos Elfilis is scared of this man
how do you skip phantom meta knight's meteors it never works for me
Omg I just 100% the game without even knowing there's a dodge mechanic ahah
I did freaking sillydillo no dmg without knowing that there's a way to dodge out of his nearly unavoidable dual spin attack
Why is toy hammer used in these speedruns?
Tried to search for an answer but i cannot find
Is like its charge attack stronger or something?
With upgrades, it's pretty much the strongest ability in the game.
@@danielarputharaj9918 yeah bit it says that masked has more power
And it is faster and shoots tornados
I guess toy hammer is just like a one time swing of big damage but it seem like masked is the stronger
@@nadavv4466 Toy hammer does all the damage at once without knocking the enemy around, unlike Masked Hammer which takes a bunch of hits and therefore takes longer
@@zapkido2830 thats dope
Ill start using it more the speedrun looks real cool
i literally still havent beaten this cup, its one of the only things keeping me from 100%. and people are out here beating it in 3 minutes. for reference, i HAVE beaten the true arena from return to dreamland deluxe. though its been a bit since ive tried the ultimate cup Z.
I required multiple attempts to beat the Ultimate Cup Z once and I was using buffs (on Wild Mode), it is pretty hard the first time around. I am able to consistently beat it using Meta Knight Sword now. Meanwhile KRtDLDX you can kinda just cheese the True Arena with Tornado lol
@@Pixiuchu oh yeah, i actually beat the ultimate cup Z now. i did it in wild mode with morpho knight sword and no buffs. i probably couldve done it much earlier with spring breeze mode and with items, but i didnt want to cheese it too hard.
as for return to dreamland, i used the sand ability, which is still pretty cheesy. i tried beating it with mech and hammer but kept dying to the final boss so i gave up.
And here I was (pun not intended) thinking that my 8 minute run with NOBLE RANGER was impressive..
Also I thought Ranger was the better ability for speedrunning-
I love the thumbnail! It looks great
attack boost and that toy hammer is a boss killer
Im still trying to figure out how you get so much damage off with the mini bosses like 0:20. Especially when you almost one tapped Wild Edge. How did you do that?
While following the Meta Knight cup, I discovered that the bosses that spawn in second (like wild edge and fleurina) have a split second after the spawn, before the roar, that they don't have increased defense. On the MK, you can charge when the white appears and release on two charge and almost one shot them. Looks like he immediately charged to three for the Z cup
How are you able to keep the hammer against the Meta Knight?
Bro this is how long the second cup takes me on my fastest time
Why didnt he use King Dedede Hammer +★? Wouldn't that do more damage fully upgraded than the 2nd evolution of it?
I believe the toy hammers faster at the cost of a bit of power
Toy Hammer is actually more powerful than Masked Hammer, Toy Hammers power comes from a single hit being powerful
In a nutshell, Masked does more damage overall but does so in consecutive hits while Toy does the damage all in one hit. So Masked is stronger but Toy id still very powerful and does damage faster
out of curiosity, how does the speedrun differ between buffed and non-buffed for this arena? I'm still learning the non-buffed, and I'm not sure where to find more info.
5:02 just happened to notice this, so I don't think he can really answer your question
I don't have the game but can guess you play it well when you one shot bosses
How did you get Toyhammer + Star?
Upgraded it in the ability shop
Why toy hammer over the other evolution? Isnt it weaker?
It's actually stronger than other upgrades for hammer
God damn respect
is upgraded toy hammer good for beating forgo leon for the actual story? or only for the cup
It's better for Cups, in story you'd need to get rare stones, money and get the blueprint which isn't that fast to get anyway.
Toy hammer does that much damage? Or is there a trick?
This is nuts
Dude someone beat your record by 2:05.38
That is the toy hammer right how do you get it that powerful
He used power ups
Which power ups
@@Cyborg2457 Attack boost (Yogurt) and he upgraded the toy hammer 2 times
Why did you not upgrade the hammer to its final level? Would that make this speed run even faster?
What do you mean? It is fully upgraded
If y9u got deep sleep in the power up roulette, would you use it? Since it wouldnt waste any time?
It doesn't help when I already have Attack and Speed Boosts on
@@Samura1man ok, thanks!
Why the toy hammer and not the masked hammer?
Because Toy Hammer is better than Masked Hammer
I grinded to fet under minute in meta knight cup ,lets see if I can go 3 minute under like you
hey from croatia
Is soul melter ex harder or this
Guys when Kirby dies he gets stronger
How do you get 999 seconds of attack boost? I thought that it only went for like 200 seconds
You can stack up to 5 boosts
Ohhh ok I was really confused lol
is toy hammer just the best?
Amazing
Can someone tell me why upgrading the toy hammer is better than upgrading the double hammer? I just beat the Ultimate Cup Z and it took me WAY longer than this video lol. I had no idea the bosses could be defeated this fast
Mask dedede has a higher damage output yes but it's multiple hits to and takes longer for the full charge. Toy hammer charges faster and only needs one swing
The toy hammer is better in my opinion you get an instant charge if you do a perfect dodge and the charges are extremely fast
Thanks guys!
@@madre6970 Nah I think toy hammer has higher damage too
Is the Toy Hammer at max level the most powerful weapon in the game?
As far as I am aware now, yes it still should be the most powerful ability in the game.
Morpho Knight is still very strong, as well as Masked Hammer, but Toy Hammer is faster for Colosseums
Why his hammer flip do so much damage
is order of the bosses important in speedrun?
No, it's not. Last 5 fights from Phantom Meta Knight onwards are always the same order too.
@@Samura1man thanks a lot
awesome
ok crazy calm down
Is toy hammer better than masked hammer?
Yes
So is toy hammer better than masked hammer?
Toy is one big hit Masked is 2 small hits. Toy is used to land one bigger hit VS 2 smaller ones.
@@cartergamegeek so which one has a larger damaged output?
@@22laws22 Masked is larger if all the hits land Toy however only needs to hit once. By giving up power you make up for that with a faster charge and a bit single hit. It was better to lose a tiny bit of power so you can use only 1 attack. Masked needs all hits to land to get more out of it.
Ultimate cup 🇷🇺❤️Z speedrun
I got a sub 30 tho
Hm ok so the best way to beat it is by fully maxing out toy hammer and then using its max full strike and that just wins?
Nice run, that was super clean. I also had no idea you could smack the sword away in MK's battle!
Imagine Losing towards a toy hammer.
Sounds reasonable when the same pink puff is able to make you lose to a Yo-Yo
and an umbrella
and the greatest show on earth
And a bunch of pills, potions, and a clipboard.
Imagine losing because a pink marshmallow kills you using a balloon or some water
wtf insane run!!
So epic man, These kinds of things motivate me to keep playing Kirby. this speedrun motivated me to make some records, and I think I'm making progress :D
And here I thought my 7:16 run was impressive. This is crazy
Weird how, since miniboss fights don’t end until you inhale the boss or they turn into a hat after their health hits 0, the game basically forces anyone trying to go fast to defile their corpse until they’re forced into hat form.
For yanking Chaos Elfilis soul out of him, what’s the most consistent way of doing it the fastest?
Palm rubbing, it’ll kill your hand but it’s the fastest
I use my palm
@@Samura1man
I feel like I would break my joy cons doing that lol. Maybe time to get a pro controller.
Even if toy hammer is objectively better, i still prefer morpho sword and masked hammer because i find them more fun
Dude, that was amazing! Great job, you deserved it!
7:23 Lol I just realized Meta Knight is clapping
Damn how do you get so much damage on these bosses? I feel like I’m never gonna get past this part lol
I believe you can upgrade your squeaky hammer with coins or something to buff it
The meta knigth and the final boss are very very impresive.
A Yes the every game bronken hammer tradiction
bro really bonked a black hole
HOLY COW
What is the logic behind toy hammer? As opposed to something else? Like Morpho? Or were you intentionally trying to do this sans Morpho?
Toy Hammer is better at killing fast
@@Bair_Rest Yes, if Masked Hammer was better we'd be using it instead
@@Bair_Rest It's a matter of Speed,not Power,masked May do more damage but Toy Is faster since It's One hit and not multi hit
The issue with this game is that you can upgrade every ability to have perfect attack
Meaning some "lower" leveled upgrades will outclass their "higher" leveled ones
Puts Wild Hammer straight to bottom tier as it's redeeming factor w/o upgrades is how strong it is. With upgrades that whole redeeming factor gets thrown out of the window.
@@4GRJ Is this true for Noble Ranger and Chakram cutter being better than their upgrades?
At first, I was like “Wait a sec. Why is Toy Hammer so dang strong?!” Then I looked at the top left of the screen. 😂
I remember starting the game and the nerdy waddle dee guy said the world record for arena was an ability I didn't have, but it was 6 seconds for meta Knight. I since completed everything and morpho Knight sword is so fun to use, but when I went back to the waddle dee they said the world record was actually using toy hammer. Can someone explain what makes it the best weapon for bosses? If I had to guess it would be the fastest charge time and rapid fire, but I still find it strange masked hammer isn't used for the tornados that would basically act as the rapid hits done with the toy hammer but simultaneously to the charged hit.
Edit: just checked, I think masked hammer has the same charge time, but doesn't do the tornados like I thought it did. Morpho Knight sword seems a tiny bit slower charging and much slower swing, but does get the projectiles at full hp and probably does more damage
So there's a couple of things going into that absurd world record.
1) The record is only achievable from a glitched run of the Meta Knight Cup, where you only fight Mr. Frosty and Bonkers to complete the entire cup. This version of the Meta Knight Cup can only be accessed by going out of bounds, which is currently only possible using any of the Hammer abilities. So why Toy Hammer specifically? Well...
2) When bosses are in the middle of a phase transition (e.g. Sillydillo breaking the floor after the first phase or Phantom Clawroline screeching before she makes clones of herself), they take far less damage than they usually would. Why is that important? Toy Hammer's charge attack is a single hit, whereas Masked Hammer's is several hits. Under normal circumstances, I believe they both do the same amount of damage when fully upgraded, but because of the phase transition armor, it's possible to trigger the phase transition from the first hits of Masked Hammer's charge attack, which means that the later hits would then deal significantly less damage because of the armor. Toy Hammer's charge attack, on the other hand, is a single hit, so it won't get affected by the phase transition armor because all of the damage would have been applied before the armor could kick in.
Toy Hammer is THAT broken in this game?!
It because he used max damage and speed buffs
This vid helped me beat the ultimate z cup aswell thank you
How the hell do you stack boosts?
is this in wild mode
Speed runners scare me
Bonk
gg