Massive respect for not completely losing it after being told to calm down or take a breath three times. I think this guy hasn’t had much experience in real-life social situations.
@@GNRDisturbedSlashaye I’m 22 and I know damn well telling any mad person to calm down in usually fueling the fire, he’s a chronically online nerd tho 😭😭
as someone whose a big fan of haddix (i also enjoy elleon) i gotta say this is absolutely outta pocket. i watched the whole thing go down live and as soon as haddix said "do you need to take a breather" my brain exploded with red flags. like if someone says that to me i am ready to start fighting, and i knew it was over for this team. i love haddix but this was absolutely outta pocket and messed up in every way. he even doubled down on his own stubbornness. he talks in his streams from time to time about being the better person and taking accountability for saying dumb stuff but doesnt take his own advice. im happy to see that all the pro players stood up for andy and took his side cuz this was kinda crazy snake action. im sorry you had to go through that man. this team had a real shot at winning too i was so excited. i hope haddix apologizes
Haddix is a text book narcissist bro, I'm actually happy you're not playing with him anymore. The gas lighting is insane. Narcissists will do and say anything to construe things to make it seem like you're wrong or crazy
Haddix was gaslighting like crazy when he used sunder in a previous fight for no reason meaning it goes on cooldown. He could hqve called out that he almost had hog back up. And on top of that he had BOMB. What a fucking clown
Been watching you for quite long time now bro. You're naturally talented at so many games and i just want to say im happy to see you do so well in everything you do. You've clearly earned everything you've tried hard for and im proud to be one of your subscribers. You're the man, bro 💪
The excessive use of "we" when clearly referring to just you is extremely passive aggressive and cowardly behavior. I know exactly how it feels to hear it, almost like he is talking down to you.
He goes "Andy *has* to be the only shot caller" like bro El leon is the only shot caller I'd ever need. Always on point and any game Ive ever seen him call shots its almost ALWAYS worked out and if it doesnt he has been able to facilitate a turn around... Haddix coping hard fr, what a child.
Considering you both have similar subs (at least on youtube) I think it speaks volumes about you and your character that you have so many people's respect and favorable opinion. If ANYTHING comes from this, it should be that you, as a human, are in the right lane of life. Im embarrassed to admit that I wasted my time watching 3 separate videos to get to the bottom of this, but shit man... guess I just like your content. Cool. Calm. Calculated. Collected. Always a few steps ahead mentally. Winner mentality brother
It's evident haddix just doesn't like ElLeon and feels threatened by his confidence, ability to break down game play, and leadership; which ultimately 'challenges' haddix's self view of 'authority' and his ego. It's clear by haddix's passive-aggressive condescension and gaslighting what his true goal was, 'to get ElLeon off the team.' This is more evident by haddix's excuses in his own video. Objectively, haddix needs to be in complete control, and ElLeon is not a sheep. GGs
Jake got kicked because he was stubborn af and not even his friends could find him cooperative, but I may be mistaking the time he got kicked with Bolts
@@Samuel-lq7kp jake got kicked because they wanted someone else to play because they are friends. Jake might be "uncooperative", but you cant really say hes uncooperative when him and his team went on a 10+ win streak in official pro matches. If he truly was uncooperative, they wouldnt have won so easily.
@@Samuel-lq7kp I mean, it sounds like Jake though. I've played with him in ranked, and he even still does that. I've had to cleanup after Jake making the dumbest plays. So, I honestly wouldn't doubt it in even "pro" play.
getting kicked after a scrim because you lost 1 FG? that's WILD. the worst thing about it, is when you're on a team, EVERYONE is accountable. it is a group effort. Yes one person could have made a mistake one time and it turned the game, but what were the other 5 micro mistakes that caused it to happen? ex) second hog not being up. If everyone was on the same page, with double bombing and hog there's no way that goes south. People to to be humbled and take accountability for being wrong and making a mistake and MOVING ON. one mistake does not define the whole team every time. Error are meant to be learned from, if you don't make mistakes to learn from, you are not improving. You'll find a good team man, i just know it. Keep grinding.
Esports players are some of the least assertive people, that’s why when you see people who are remotely assertive like Weak3n/Kurt or Andy people get in a tizzy about it. Definitely a lack of social skills as well
@fatjawns3671 Let's also state they're probably scared of getting removed from the team which cancels their opportunity at a potential $300k pot. I'm pretty sure that's more of the reason than being socially awkward.
Kind of crazy how he slips up and says “I was considering replacing Andy as well, OR asking the team to replace him” 😭 basically just confirming he had a vendetta from the start. “Words are words but actions are more important” but only when it’s convenient for him to say that you’re playing another game. Not that you’ve been to every scrim etc. Oh well, I hope you can find a team by the next tournament
"if we keep playing with Andy I'm going to mute him" 💀💀LMAO what a prick. Its all good for him to mention the fg flip over and over and over again, DURING and after the game but when its time to delve deeper and hear another opinion its 'do you want to take a breather'. Bro do YOU?!?! How can you say you don't like to put the blame on a single player but you're saying sneaky shit like 'if only we got that fg' insinuating the whole game is on your shoulders off one play. The word 'accountability' even being in haddix's vocabulary is so damn funny.
Odd to argue the ‘you need to sunder quicker’ when it’s two people at a pro level (hypothetically the same level of reaction timing) hitting one button with the same exact damage threshold. definitely seems like an issue more likely to be solved by trying to keep their team off/hold damage when you know that they’re at a coin toss if you don’t think it’s 100% you’re going to win or a perfect fight after either way
Yo andy dont worry bro. We all see your grind. Haddix just wants his participation trophy. He essentially ends up on a similar squad or flake for a new team when shit isnt going his way
hes never liked you. I remember watching his stream a couple of years back where he was making fun of the way you shot called. The mistake he made is putting you on the team in the first place if he already felt some type of way about you.
"Elleon no more in tribe because during mammoth hunt, Elleon use flint spear too late. Haddix think Elleon stupid tribesman. Haddix surperior chieftain of Stone Claw tribe"
This dude has something against u.... coz you basically lost a 50/50 that could've been 70/30 if he played the right way, yet it's still your fault lmao. Just Clownddix 🤡
Wow. Haddix really crossed the line on this one. I don’t see how he can even argue this. He shoulda just said he didn’t like you from the get go. But instead he tries to make you look like the bad guy and lie. So now he’s not just an asshole but he’s a liar too.
Bro, you gotta take into account that your headphones aren't gonna be the same level we hear. I had to keep fucking with the volume for an hour lol. Rooting for you in whatever game you're playing man. I learned how to play jungle from you and I'll never forget that.
@@Codeezey @usaballplayr5 nailed it. The video required hearing coms but they were whisper quiet. Not as much of an issue when we got to the Haddix channel portion.
I always had an odd feeling about haddix but this tips the scales for me. He could’ve saved face here if he simply just said I don’t want to team with Andy because I don’t like him. That would’ve gone over way better than this circus act he conducted to try and look like he was on the right side of things. If there’s one persons ego that needs to be checked it’s haddix’s.
My boy got kicked for losing a 50😂😂 haddix outted himself with that video. I'd never trust him again with anything team based. Bro is psycho and for sure has something against you.
“What did you use sunder on” “idk what I sundered”. That was all I needed to hear. 100% Haddix was in the wrong and can’t own up to a mistake. Instead wants to make you the scapegoat over a 50/50 for a bad SCRIM? You don’t need to be on that team they ain’t gunna be winning shit don’t waste you time with em, make your own squad or join with another team but that alone speaks volumes that he wants to put all the blame on you when he clearly making massive mistakes before the FG even started
Your gonna find a team that you destroy with so long as it doesn’t have these weird ego issues and biases from the start. Can’t wait to see you excel in Vegas. Know your the bigger man here and whether or not it feels like it right now, this is better for you
On my soul, if my sports coach told me to calm down multiple times and blame me for one little mistake in a 30m game and dropped me, I would’ve lost it. So I commend u for staying so calm
total respect for keeping your cool and being level headed. Haddix is my boy but your def in the right. Good luck man im sure youll be taking a trip to vegas still
the problem when u go in to a situation already with a bad taste in your mouth is its easy to set off one or the other. haddix wasnt crazy about haviing u on the team to begin with which is a shame but that causes issues like this. He will say well the first thing after losing the fg is "idk why were not double sundering there" which causes him to sort of feel its a deflect when to you its just analyzing the situation. the rest is just mush going back and forth over nothing really. unfortunate situation not every team can mesh and work out but i hope to see u on a team here soon
Andy it is crazy that you need to defend yourself. It is a 50/50 coin flip in a scrim and acts like its world's final but Haddix is trolling with his sunder if he is making a big deal about it. Absolutely petty that he has to dig at it more and more. I hope you get on a team bro and keep on competing because your always exciting to watch!
Smite just wouldnt be smite without a snakey roster change to start off a season. I think your best content happens when you can focus on the content, and even though it’s not for me, deadlock is probably going to be a bigger game anyway. Wish you the best of luck going forward ElLeon
Smart to keep the options open regardless, point proven with this drama really. I would not be keen to full commit to smite 2 comp, especially after the way hirez dealt with the end of smite 1 pro scene.
Nah he made the right move. If he bitches at Haddix, he gets kicked for being toxic and being bad for the team. He was getting kicked either way. This way, people actually see how much of an asshole haddix was being, he was trying so hard to make Andy seem like the agressor.
@@AB-bx5to Haddix is a A1 gaslighter. Bro couldnt even take accountablity for his 3 massive mistakes during that moment. Honestly blaming the sup that they couldnt secure fg is pure brainrot. Im no longer gonna watch haddix. Absolute clown behaviour
Damn, Andy RT! Big ups to you for keeping your chill. Like chat was saying in screams live, you was playing chess while haddix was learning checkers! Your points were on the dot and haddix refused to be in the wrong. My limit wouldve been "you need to take a breather"? But fr big ups for keeping your cool in such a toxic conversation! It really sucks when youre trying to have a constructive convo with a person with a im never wrong ego.
Sadly the others are kinda pussies and did not want to burn the birdge with haddix.. Sadly in smite it's about keeping connections more than anything else.
Cuz the other ones don’t have balls, they didn’t say anything to the complete ordeal. Elleon shouldn’t trust anyone, to me they are as faulty as Haddix here to see/hear and not do anything about it.
Dude is projecting so hard, saying you were deflecting blame on everyone else when it was literally him trying to deflect from the fact he wasted his hog and their solo had theirs so they were able to steal. He was so salty, he kept trying to bring everything back to the FG play even when you were talking about something else. You said what could be a better game plan for the next time you guys are in that situation and he tried to flip that as you raging. He’s legit a manbaby throwing a tantrum.
Getting blamed for something that Ping has the most control over is wild. Literally a 50/50 chance. If ama has the better ping and you sunder at the same time Ama will win that all the time just because her hit will register first because of the ping. Its the bane of all MOBA's you can see it more prominent when last hitting or denying in deadlock.
The Deadlock stuff is such a red herring. Almost every Smite pro is putting time into Deadlock because anyone being honest realizes what the writing on the wall might be for Smite 2 if it doesn't improve drastically in a year.
Haddix didn't have his own timers up because he wasted is dumb, being susano isn't being a dmg soak so he sux at solo roles, just a bonus assassin when Elleon is common to play assassins from support.
Yeah, I don't see why Haddix just didn't say I don't want Andy on my team or I want my friend on my team instead. Like, dude has to think for a minute before saying something. Honestly, plain and simple ain't gonna be end of the world if he says that
Didn't he blatantly lie saying he didn't use his sunder in a fight? He was deflecting so hard trying not to take accountability himself 😂 I can only hope his manipulation catches up to him, I'd hate to see someone getting away with wronging my king like this
Subbed for the honest, fair, and humble breakdown. I'm just getting into Smite 2 and am here from one of Weak3n's videos on the same topic. Best of luck to you, El Leon. I'm rootin' for ya.
Bro i can relate to you so hard right now. Not losing more than a friend but still.. dealing with gas lighting and instigating liars is such a pain.. like i wanna love people but its hard to love someone who does this crap
Whole problem avoided if Haddix just mans up and says “I don’t wanna team with you, we don’t get along well” and moved on. Idk why he felt the need to try and make Elleon look bad
Only knew you by name when I watched Haddix back in the day. Any ladder gamer can relate to this competitive gamer moment. Bit of bitterness on both sides, nobody likes losing, but a rat is a rat. Now you just need to disqualify them one day and give him the handshake N0tail gave Fly. Good luck going forward brother.
33:35 - Hi, Haddix. My name is Nnamdi Okafor, LPCC. That means I’m a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor. I.e. A clinical therapist. I’m curious about what was coming up for you at the timestamp. Andy is sharing his perspective with you. He’s not using pressurized speech (yelling, posturing, etc) nor is he coming off as threatening. Yet, you respond with suggesting that Andy (the one who hasn’t shown any anger emotions or lack of emotional regulation) “…we take a breather.” I think the question might be whether or not *you* may need a breather. It appears that you have projected your emotions onto Andy due to him not seeing things the way you see them. Your use of “we” is also dismissive and disingenuous. Your suggestion is *not* that you guys collaborate in taking a break. It’s a flippant and dismissive response to the situation, and it’s far from helpful/therapeutic. Further with your dismissiveness, you seem to carry that approach often throughout these exchanges, here. And, it seems that it never appears to be landing. I think you are feeling something, yet you are being *avoidant* in saying what you feel. Would you like to talk about what is happening for you and your feelings as opposed to displacing and projecting onto others?
I watched Weaken video going over what was out there yesterday and thought the whole situation was odd and thought there had to be more to it then what happened in that game. Hopefully you get a new team, would love to see you shred. Haddix is a goof.
Seriously though, I loved watching every single one of the games you guys played as a team… listening to the comms, I think that you made all the best calls constantly, you brought a level of strategy and intelligence to the game, the elevated everyone
I mean, 50/50 quite literally means that half the time you’re gonna lose the obj, it is what it is. The fact that Haddix’ only argument is “oh you should’ve sundered it better” is not only disrespectful to you but to Cherry as well. The dude is a good player, he’s gonna make those plays sometimes, to expect you to always pull it off over another player who is like that and plays competitively too is just asking way too much, it’s unrealistic. No more than that even really needs to be said on the subject
Yall remember the video Haddix put up why he left the bolts cuz he was tired of losing and switched up to the Leviathans so he could get a ring and bro was tearing up saying" The bolts are my family" lmao.
Yea, Haddix just needs to say he wants another support if that's what he wants instead of the Bullshit. But word to the wise man: as soon as you see crazy texts like that you gotta just pick up the phone and call him. A lot of drama comes from texting back and forth, just call him and confront him early on, you're more likely to get the truth faster with less games.
Never heard someone say Deadlock so many times in one sentence. Haddix sounds like he's the one with the secret love for Deadlock. Also acting like a flat out child with a shitty ego. He is using reasons that dont make any sense to try and cover. Friends league :(
Massive respect for not completely losing it after being told to calm down or take a breath three times. I think this guy hasn’t had much experience in real-life social situations.
I think Haddix is like 23 or something so it makes a lot of sense
@@GNRDisturbedSlashaye I’m 22 and I know damn well telling any mad person to calm down in usually fueling the fire, he’s a chronically online nerd tho 😭😭
Get on another team called ACCOUNTABILITY and when you beat him in vegas wear a Tshirt with his face on it.
@elleon mf you liked this comment 😂
@@zquezgaming46 its a joke
@@DeanWBarry too bad lol I was just messing with Leon
@@DeanWBarry nooo the new team name should be breather takers!!
as someone whose a big fan of haddix (i also enjoy elleon) i gotta say this is absolutely outta pocket. i watched the whole thing go down live and as soon as haddix said "do you need to take a breather" my brain exploded with red flags. like if someone says that to me i am ready to start fighting, and i knew it was over for this team. i love haddix but this was absolutely outta pocket and messed up in every way. he even doubled down on his own stubbornness. he talks in his streams from time to time about being the better person and taking accountability for saying dumb stuff but doesnt take his own advice. im happy to see that all the pro players stood up for andy and took his side cuz this was kinda crazy snake action. im sorry you had to go through that man. this team had a real shot at winning too i was so excited. i hope haddix apologizes
Haddix has the maturity of a 12 yo
Smite in general has a lot of shady players. Just look what happened to Jake last year.
well said.
What is a “hog?”
@@nn4mz "hand of the gods".... sunder in smite 2 was called hog in smite 1 years ago
Haddix banned me from chat for saying “We need to step away for a moment”.
and ELLeon and his girl ban people from chat all the time for even dumber reasons. L take tbh, they all sensitive af
U serious bruh? Or this a joke? 😅
@@chrisruiz8292 true leon bnned me before
@@chrisruiz8292 Elleon is not unreasonable. Nothing about his personality paints him as brash.
@@chrisruiz8292 Is this Haddix on his alt?🤣
Haddix is a text book narcissist bro, I'm actually happy you're not playing with him anymore. The gas lighting is insane. Narcissists will do and say anything to construe things to make it seem like you're wrong or crazy
Haddix was gaslighting like crazy when he used sunder in a previous fight for no reason meaning it goes on cooldown. He could hqve called out that he almost had hog back up. And on top of that he had BOMB. What a fucking clown
I came to this conclusion as well
and hes a liar
We seriously can't support people that do what haddix does. Either knock it off or gfto
L haddix thats it. nuff said
Not a chance. A lot more can be said. Like Haddix is such a loooooser 😂 The guy probably picks his nose and eats it still
@@J-Albzhe looks like the type 😂
Haddix is the guy in the office who monitors how long everyone spends in the bathroom on their break.
Been watching you for quite long time now bro. You're naturally talented at so many games and i just want to say im happy to see you do so well in everything you do. You've clearly earned everything you've tried hard for and im proud to be one of your subscribers. You're the man, bro 💪
I’m proud to have you as part of my community infared ❤️💪🏻
@@ELLEONGAMING ♥️
The excessive use of "we" when clearly referring to just you is extremely passive aggressive and cowardly behavior. I know exactly how it feels to hear it, almost like he is talking down to you.
@tjc8668 make sure to wipe it and zip it back up after you're done buddy
@@mohammedfaraj9680 You must be mistaking what you're doing for what he's doing lmfaooo
He wont stand on business and use the word I
@@mohammedfaraj9680 Uninstall real life
He goes "Andy *has* to be the only shot caller" like bro El leon is the only shot caller I'd ever need. Always on point and any game Ive ever seen him call shots its almost ALWAYS worked out and if it doesnt he has been able to facilitate a turn around... Haddix coping hard fr, what a child.
Considering you both have similar subs (at least on youtube) I think it speaks volumes about you and your character that you have so many people's respect and favorable opinion. If ANYTHING comes from this, it should be that you, as a human, are in the right lane of life. Im embarrassed to admit that I wasted my time watching 3 separate videos to get to the bottom of this, but shit man... guess I just like your content. Cool. Calm. Calculated. Collected. Always a few steps ahead mentally. Winner mentality brother
It's evident haddix just doesn't like ElLeon and feels threatened by his confidence, ability to break down game play, and leadership; which ultimately 'challenges' haddix's self view of 'authority' and his ego. It's clear by haddix's passive-aggressive condescension and gaslighting what his true goal was, 'to get ElLeon off the team.' This is more evident by haddix's excuses in his own video. Objectively, haddix needs to be in complete control, and ElLeon is not a sheep. GGs
Man, i love having someone tell me what to do in smite, so i just have to focus on fighting. Its just less work for me to think about
Its an ego thing. Nothing else
Crazy arm chair analysis. What Haddix did was clearly fucked but your not in his psyche. Kinda weird to type an essay like you are
@@Snagavitch i mean hes not wrong regardless
Exactly
this shits dumber than when jake got kicked for jumping
Jake got kicked because he was stubborn af and not even his friends could find him cooperative, but I may be mistaking the time he got kicked with Bolts
Netroid had stockholm sydrome for Genetics.
@@Samuel-lq7kp jake got kicked because they wanted someone else to play because they are friends. Jake might be "uncooperative", but you cant really say hes uncooperative when him and his team went on a 10+ win streak in official pro matches. If he truly was uncooperative, they wouldnt have won so easily.
@@Samuel-lq7kp I mean, it sounds like Jake though. I've played with him in ranked, and he even still does that. I've had to cleanup after Jake making the dumbest plays. So, I honestly wouldn't doubt it in even "pro" play.
Jake, SoT and most spl players treat ranked like you would treat an arena match they don't take it as seriously as yall do.
getting kicked after a scrim because you lost 1 FG? that's WILD. the worst thing about it, is when you're on a team, EVERYONE is accountable. it is a group effort. Yes one person could have made a mistake one time and it turned the game, but what were the other 5 micro mistakes that caused it to happen? ex) second hog not being up. If everyone was on the same page, with double bombing and hog there's no way that goes south. People to to be humbled and take accountability for being wrong and making a mistake and MOVING ON. one mistake does not define the whole team every time. Error are meant to be learned from, if you don't make mistakes to learn from, you are not improving. You'll find a good team man, i just know it. Keep grinding.
Haddix wanted him gone from the jump, he was just looking for an excuse to kick him
Its the fact it was haddix fault that fire giant wasnt secured
None of your other teammates saying anything is crazy
Zap kinda did during the scrim. Not defending zap. I’m not even a fan of his.
THIS!!!
CRAZY
Esports players are some of the least assertive people, that’s why when you see people who are remotely assertive like Weak3n/Kurt or Andy people get in a tizzy about it.
Definitely a lack of social skills as well
@fatjawns3671 Let's also state they're probably scared of getting removed from the team which cancels their opportunity at a potential $300k pot. I'm pretty sure that's more of the reason than being socially awkward.
There's a reason they call it "Smite Friends League" and they aren't changing. Doesn't bode well for S2.
Kind of crazy how he slips up and says “I was considering replacing Andy as well, OR asking the team to replace him” 😭 basically just confirming he had a vendetta from the start. “Words are words but actions are more important” but only when it’s convenient for him to say that you’re playing another game. Not that you’ve been to every scrim etc.
Oh well, I hope you can find a team by the next tournament
Yeah its pretty clear he was basically just looking for a reason to remove him especially after he blocked his ability to play with jake
He also slipped up saying something like “when I kicked Andy I mean we kicked..”😂
"if we keep playing with Andy I'm going to mute him" 💀💀LMAO what a prick. Its all good for him to mention the fg flip over and over and over again, DURING and after the game but when its time to delve deeper and hear another opinion its 'do you want to take a breather'. Bro do YOU?!?! How can you say you don't like to put the blame on a single player but you're saying sneaky shit like 'if only we got that fg' insinuating the whole game is on your shoulders off one play. The word 'accountability' even being in haddix's vocabulary is so damn funny.
and he says its no big deal just casual match
Odd to argue the ‘you need to sunder quicker’ when it’s two people at a pro level (hypothetically the same level of reaction timing) hitting one button with the same exact damage threshold. definitely seems like an issue more likely to be solved by trying to keep their team off/hold damage when you know that they’re at a coin toss if you don’t think it’s 100% you’re going to win or a perfect fight after either way
Not to mention elleon mentioned he had the bug that switches stuff from instant cast to quick cast which he might not notice asap
Still hoping to see you at Vegas
Fr
there he is!!!
Hope I can make it brother. Keep up the good work 🙌🏻
I agree with the Meows in the background
That’s my baby
Gatito ❤️❤️😌@@ELLEONGAMING
been a huge haddix fan for years. this is definitely the end of that
same here hope others follow
Yo andy dont worry bro. We all see your grind. Haddix just wants his participation trophy. He essentially ends up on a similar squad or flake for a new team when shit isnt going his way
hes never liked you. I remember watching his stream a couple of years back where he was making fun of the way you shot called. The mistake he made is putting you on the team in the first place if he already felt some type of way about you.
Haddix body language and inconsistency while explaining his side is W I L D
It’s crazy to me to think we used to be cavemen and now this is the typa problem ppl b having
😂😂😂😂
Haddix would have thrown his club at a turtle instead of saving it for the tiger fight.
"Elleon no more in tribe because during mammoth hunt, Elleon use flint spear too late. Haddix think Elleon stupid tribesman. Haddix surperior chieftain of Stone Claw tribe"
We were never cavemen or came from monkeys. They lied to us.
@@MADDcartman lmao
Bro, the way he was projecting his problems and feelings onto you is insane.
Haddix in the SPL for 3 years = more experience than Andy’s 15 years of MOBA. Lmao.
I was so excited to see you get your chance with the big boys. Hopefully you can assemble a team to play for vegas and prove them wrong!!
This dude has something against u.... coz you basically lost a 50/50 that could've been 70/30 if he played the right way, yet it's still your fault lmao. Just Clownddix 🤡
Wow. Haddix really crossed the line on this one. I don’t see how he can even argue this. He shoulda just said he didn’t like you from the get go. But instead he tries to make you look like the bad guy and lie. So now he’s not just an asshole but he’s a liar too.
I wish Haddix’s future gf a very good future cause the amount of gaslighting you gonna get put thru 💀💀💀
Bro, you gotta take into account that your headphones aren't gonna be the same level we hear. I had to keep fucking with the volume for an hour lol.
Rooting for you in whatever game you're playing man. I learned how to play jungle from you and I'll never forget that.
Ngl, I don’t know what you mean by the first comment. Was there something you couldn’t hear? I watched on my phone and it was totally fine.
@@Codeezey the team comms when he was going over the plays are super low when andi's stream voice is pretty loud compared to them
@@Codeezey @usaballplayr5 nailed it. The video required hearing coms but they were whisper quiet. Not as much of an issue when we got to the Haddix channel portion.
I always had an odd feeling about haddix but this tips the scales for me. He could’ve saved face here if he simply just said I don’t want to team with Andy because I don’t like him. That would’ve gone over way better than this circus act he conducted to try and look like he was on the right side of things. If there’s one persons ego that needs to be checked it’s haddix’s.
My boy got kicked for losing a 50😂😂 haddix outted himself with that video. I'd never trust him again with anything team based. Bro is psycho and for sure has something against you.
Common Snake behavior from Haddix, shitty it played out with you getting the boot Andy
I’m sorry Andy you gotta deal with the immaturity of something like this I hope things go well for you in the future
“What did you use sunder on” “idk what I sundered”. That was all I needed to hear. 100% Haddix was in the wrong and can’t own up to a mistake. Instead wants to make you the scapegoat over a 50/50 for a bad SCRIM?
You don’t need to be on that team they ain’t gunna be winning shit don’t waste you time with em, make your own squad or join with another team but that alone speaks volumes that he wants to put all the blame on you when he clearly making massive mistakes before the FG even started
i love how hes trying to put you down and trying to say you arent ready when you are the best smite player at this current time
1 hour of pure entertainment, thank you Andy 😎
Ready for your stream, sir 💪🏾💜
When is my next interview from the goat dashboard 😎
@ELLEONGAMING haha hopefully sometime soon brotha 👊
Your gonna find a team that you destroy with so long as it doesn’t have these weird ego issues and biases from the start. Can’t wait to see you excel in Vegas. Know your the bigger man here and whether or not it feels like it right now, this is better for you
That's wild. I liked Haddix too. Kinda ratty behavior tbh, it's a rough break man that sucks. I'm hoping the best for you man.
the irony of someone who refers to themselves as "Chaddix" being such a raging incel regarding what is essentially a coin flip is crazy
On my soul, if my sports coach told me to calm down multiple times and blame me for one little mistake in a 30m game and dropped me, I would’ve lost it. So I commend u for staying so calm
haddix probably got bullied as a kid
We all know EL LEON is the Goat my man, Hope u get a much better team (if that's what you're wanting) Keep on keepin on mayne I'm rootin for you
Its insane how condescending he was the entire time.
total respect for keeping your cool and being level headed. Haddix is my boy but your def in the right. Good luck man im sure youll be taking a trip to vegas still
the problem when u go in to a situation already with a bad taste in your mouth is its easy to set off one or the other. haddix wasnt crazy about haviing u on the team to begin with which is a shame but that causes issues like this. He will say well the first thing after losing the fg is "idk why were not double sundering there" which causes him to sort of feel its a deflect when to you its just analyzing the situation. the rest is just mush going back and forth over nothing really. unfortunate situation not every team can mesh and work out but i hope to see u on a team here soon
We know what type of man haddix is
Deadlock has a better future anyway, I respect you for sticking with smite for all these years, but you deserve better imo.
Worst thing you can do is leaving Deadlock for Smite scene. Just focus on where the future is and you will be fine with your gamer skills.
Crazy that no vote could just happen to kick haddix off instead and just find another solo. Yet i know it usually never works out that way.
Andy it is crazy that you need to defend yourself. It is a 50/50 coin flip in a scrim and acts like its world's final but Haddix is trolling with his sunder if he is making a big deal about it. Absolutely petty that he has to dig at it more and more. I hope you get on a team bro and keep on competing because your always exciting to watch!
Smite just wouldnt be smite without a snakey roster change to start off a season. I think your best content happens when you can focus on the content, and even though it’s not for me, deadlock is probably going to be a bigger game anyway. Wish you the best of luck going forward ElLeon
Appreciate the words broski
Smart to keep the options open regardless, point proven with this drama really. I would not be keen to full commit to smite 2 comp, especially after the way hirez dealt with the end of smite 1 pro scene.
You call him out right then and there, you belong. Don’t second guess yourself. Curse em out if you gotta. That’s as upfront as you can be
Nah he made the right move. If he bitches at Haddix, he gets kicked for being toxic and being bad for the team. He was getting kicked either way. This way, people actually see how much of an asshole haddix was being, he was trying so hard to make Andy seem like the agressor.
Amen
@@AB-bx5to Haddix is a A1 gaslighter. Bro couldnt even take accountablity for his 3 massive mistakes during that moment. Honestly blaming the sup that they couldnt secure fg is pure brainrot. Im no longer gonna watch haddix. Absolute clown behaviour
Damn, Andy RT! Big ups to you for keeping your chill. Like chat was saying in screams live, you was playing chess while haddix was learning checkers! Your points were on the dot and haddix refused to be in the wrong. My limit wouldve been "you need to take a breather"? But fr big ups for keeping your cool in such a toxic conversation! It really sucks when youre trying to have a constructive convo with a person with a im never wrong ego.
Haddix ego’d you, that’s a shame. Ppl like that are the ones you stay away from. Egotistical ppl are crazy
most egotistical smiter
Why don't you guys just collectively leave haddix and find a 5th?(im saying this 5 mins in so i dont have the full context yet)
Sadly the others are kinda pussies and did not want to burn the birdge with haddix.. Sadly in smite it's about keeping connections more than anything else.
Cuz the other ones don’t have balls, they didn’t say anything to the complete ordeal.
Elleon shouldn’t trust anyone, to me they are as faulty as Haddix here to see/hear and not do anything about it.
Been watching you for years bro . He has no idea what he just lost
Honestly, you handled this very well, I am impressed. I am going to have to watch you much more often
Dude is projecting so hard, saying you were deflecting blame on everyone else when it was literally him trying to deflect from the fact he wasted his hog and their solo had theirs so they were able to steal. He was so salty, he kept trying to bring everything back to the FG play even when you were talking about something else. You said what could be a better game plan for the next time you guys are in that situation and he tried to flip that as you raging. He’s legit a manbaby throwing a tantrum.
Smite never changes
Getting blamed for something that Ping has the most control over is wild. Literally a 50/50 chance. If ama has the better ping and you sunder at the same time Ama will win that all the time just because her hit will register first because of the ping. Its the bane of all MOBA's you can see it more prominent when last hitting or denying in deadlock.
Here is yet another team Jake will get kicked from. Haddix and Jake's bromance needs to go to the next level anyways.
The Deadlock stuff is such a red herring. Almost every Smite pro is putting time into Deadlock because anyone being honest realizes what the writing on the wall might be for Smite 2 if it doesn't improve drastically in a year.
Only way to team with haddix is if you delete every other game in your steam library I guess
Haddix didn't have his own timers up because he wasted is dumb, being susano isn't being a dmg soak so he sux at solo roles, just a bonus assassin when Elleon is common to play assassins from support.
Yeah, I don't see why Haddix just didn't say I don't want Andy on my team or I want my friend on my team instead. Like, dude has to think for a minute before saying something. Honestly, plain and simple ain't gonna be end of the world if he says that
haddix is the new DmBrandon
After looking at both sides. It just seems like haddix is lost about why he doesn’t want you on the team and doesn’t really like you lol
sucks you had to deal with a snake. hope everything works out for you
Didn't he blatantly lie saying he didn't use his sunder in a fight? He was deflecting so hard trying not to take accountability himself 😂 I can only hope his manipulation catches up to him, I'd hate to see someone getting away with wronging my king like this
All I want to say is haddix literally just complains he has the worst attitude out of any pro. Plus he isn’t the best.
Even if he was the best he still gonna bring Jake and they gonna kill another pro team
the pauses had me fucking DYING... casual pause chill pause. good luck to you bro. this some mcbullshit u gotta deal with. gl on future endeavors g
He Leon these things always make you shine more. Don't worry about the "cut". You'll get something better somewhere.
Subbed for the honest, fair, and humble breakdown. I'm just getting into Smite 2 and am here from one of Weak3n's videos on the same topic. Best of luck to you, El Leon. I'm rootin' for ya.
Bro i can relate to you so hard right now. Not losing more than a friend but still.. dealing with gas lighting and instigating liars is such a pain.. like i wanna love people but its hard to love someone who does this crap
Whole problem avoided if Haddix just mans up and says “I don’t wanna team with you, we don’t get along well” and moved on. Idk why he felt the need to try and make Elleon look bad
Only knew you by name when I watched Haddix back in the day. Any ladder gamer can relate to this competitive gamer moment. Bit of bitterness on both sides, nobody likes losing, but a rat is a rat. Now you just need to disqualify them one day and give him the handshake N0tail gave Fly. Good luck going forward brother.
Make your own scrims team, Beat the former team and make a part 2 to this video.
haddix has always been a little kid and will remain one
33:35 - Hi, Haddix. My name is Nnamdi Okafor, LPCC. That means I’m a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor. I.e. A clinical therapist.
I’m curious about what was coming up for you at the timestamp.
Andy is sharing his perspective with you. He’s not using pressurized speech (yelling, posturing, etc) nor is he coming off as threatening.
Yet, you respond with suggesting that Andy (the one who hasn’t shown any anger emotions or lack of emotional regulation) “…we take a breather.”
I think the question might be whether or not *you* may need a breather. It appears that you have projected your emotions onto Andy due to him not seeing things the way you see them.
Your use of “we” is also dismissive and disingenuous. Your suggestion is *not* that you guys collaborate in taking a break. It’s a flippant and dismissive response to the situation, and it’s far from helpful/therapeutic.
Further with your dismissiveness, you seem to carry that approach often throughout these exchanges, here. And, it seems that it never appears to be landing. I think you are feeling something, yet you are being *avoidant* in saying what you feel.
Would you like to talk about what is happening for you and your feelings as opposed to displacing and projecting onto others?
Never seen someone gaslight themselves so far that even your haters, agree with you
Let’s get these views babyyy. Hope you find a home king!
I watched Weaken video going over what was out there yesterday and thought the whole situation was odd and thought there had to be more to it then what happened in that game.
Hopefully you get a new team, would love to see you shred.
Haddix is a goof.
Never been a Haddix fan. Guy has always been pompous and thinks his shit don’t stink. You did nothing wrong bro. Always got your back bro 🔥
"while he was bodying clay players over and over, improving, VASTLY" i died lol
Leon needs to start his own team and get these chances the man deserves at this point.
Gotta get a team up quick doggie gotta see some dope ass beat down. Maybe Leon becomes the new and up and coming solo laner
Bro, Haddix is just turning into the Dmbrandon of Smite 2
Haddix has always been the dmbrandon of pro smite just not as bad
He only keeps it to a low level because we already have the case of dmbrandon
Dang, I kinda wish I saw you play more with zap. But you’ll bounce back, like you always do. 💪
Seriously though, I loved watching every single one of the games you guys played as a team… listening to the comms, I think that you made all the best calls constantly, you brought a level of strategy and intelligence to the game, the elevated everyone
I mean, 50/50 quite literally means that half the time you’re gonna lose the obj, it is what it is. The fact that Haddix’ only argument is “oh you should’ve sundered it better” is not only disrespectful to you but to Cherry as well. The dude is a good player, he’s gonna make those plays sometimes, to expect you to always pull it off over another player who is like that and plays competitively too is just asking way too much, it’s unrealistic. No more than that even really needs to be said on the subject
Yall remember the video Haddix put up why he left the bolts cuz he was tired of losing and switched up to the Leviathans so he could get a ring and bro was tearing up saying" The bolts are my family" lmao.
if you know smite, you know leon is probably the best mechanical player ever.
L haddix fr, he always act like he got no emotions but i bet he was seething during all this
Yea, Haddix just needs to say he wants another support if that's what he wants instead of the Bullshit. But word to the wise man: as soon as you see crazy texts like that you gotta just pick up the phone and call him. A lot of drama comes from texting back and forth, just call him and confront him early on, you're more likely to get the truth faster with less games.
Never heard someone say Deadlock so many times in one sentence. Haddix sounds like he's the one with the secret love for Deadlock. Also acting like a flat out child with a shitty ego. He is using reasons that dont make any sense to try and cover. Friends league :(
haddix doesn't give a shit about what's good for the team he just wants him and jake to be at vegas together so they can hang out...
Lol he really said my bad thought you weren’t taking smite 2 seriously when he hasn’t even talked to you💀 that’s literally insane