Always great information from you Mr. Derbyologist - you're my favourite go-to racing analyst. If I may go off topic here, I was so incredibly saddened to hear of the passing of Cody Dorman today, at age 17. We just watched (two days ago) "Cody's Wish" win at the Breeder's Cup (repeating last year's win) in a very dramatic/close win. My God, bless that boy's good heart for always - along with his incredibly loving and supportive family. Perhaps our Cody, was meant to see the horse named after him, win just one more time. Cheers and thank you for "listening."
I can't express how appreciative I am for you doing making this video. I have tried to read handicapping books on how to make these figures and I start spacing out almost immediately. A video breaking it down, makes all the difference. Thank you so much!
Myself and other handicappers has been using 1/5 = 1 Length for years and find it works as close to perfect as can be, if you’re not a believer good luck...I’ve heard TVG Analysis mention the same on air just before the BC
The Native Dover was given a slow 90 BSF. Baffert thinks Mr Fisk is ready for the big time. Other figure makers agree and give him a 100 (BSF converted). Thats a big gap. Whats your take?
Dirt or turf, strong pace or slow pace, a horse final time is always going to be a true indicator of a horses ability, if you add each fractional, time, you’d see whether horses run full tilt from the start or upside down (turf) as long as a horse go full speed, they’re going to always run to their full energy level...you may not agree, but if that’s not the case, Ask Longines how comes they rate Turf runners, who run so slow early higher than dirt horses higher
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How to make speed figures the process. Leave your questions, so we can do a follow up video 🏇🏇
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Always great information from you Mr. Derbyologist - you're my favourite go-to racing analyst. If I may go off topic here, I was so incredibly saddened to hear of the passing of Cody Dorman today, at age 17. We just watched (two days ago) "Cody's Wish" win at the Breeder's Cup (repeating last year's win) in a very dramatic/close win. My God, bless that boy's good heart for always - along with his incredibly loving and supportive family. Perhaps our Cody, was meant to see the horse named after him, win just one more time. Cheers and thank you for "listening."
@@rivaridge7211 Some sad news indeed on Cody's Wish. It was a good story and Cody's Wish ran a strong race.
I can't express how appreciative I am for you doing making this video. I have tried to read handicapping books on how to make these figures and I start spacing out almost immediately. A video breaking it down, makes all the difference. Thank you so much!
Dynamite video! Just understanding the process a little better makes a big difference.
Are you aware DRF posted 1:44.3 for the Clairborne Futurity vs Keeneland official final clocking of 1:45?
Yes I did hear that - another variable for speed figures to keep track of.
Beyers has become the go to among them all, since he did it best, and, first.
Speed Figures have evolved, but the initial process by Beyer led the way.
Myself and other handicappers has been using 1/5 = 1 Length for years and find it works as close to perfect as can be, if you’re not a believer good luck...I’ve heard TVG Analysis mention the same on air just before the BC
Yes that was the standard for many years, but have seen other discussions on this.
Great video and analysis as usual. Where to obtain or look for beyer speed aside from drf ?
The Native Dover was given a slow 90 BSF. Baffert thinks Mr Fisk is ready for the big time. Other figure makers agree and give him a 100 (BSF converted). Thats a big gap. Whats your take?
I liked the race Mr. Fisk ran in the Native Diver. He seems ready for 9 furlongs, not sure he is a 10 furlong horse.
I’d use pars for G1, G2, G3, Alowance, 2yos & 3yos but not 4yos & Up, they should fit under Md. and Alowance...
Dirt or turf, strong pace or slow pace, a horse final time is always going to be a true indicator of a horses ability, if you add each fractional, time, you’d see whether horses run full tilt from the start or upside down (turf) as long as a horse go full speed, they’re going to always run to their full energy level...you may not agree, but if that’s not the case, Ask Longines how comes they rate Turf runners, who run so slow early higher than dirt horses higher
Some good points to consider.
In my opinion running styles can negate speed figures, they’re most effective when used at the same distance
Between 9’ to 10’ is about as close a handicapper can get it to being correct