@@fastage101 He sparked energy off the bench, sure. But his 3pts and 2 rebounds in their 2023 championship run is barely noticeable. You Denver fans acting like because he exudes energy while playing it equates to being good. Saying he excelled is damn laughable.
Start Watson and Braun. Bring MPJ off the bench with Russ, run a 5 out with the Second unit and possibly push leads. Braun Watson and Gordon can be a solid defensive and athletic trio to play alongside Jokic and Murray. It might take a few games to get them acclimated to their new roles but defensively they can make a huge immediate impact. Russ has played with Durant and MPJ has a very similar game. They may end up having great chemistry.
This is simply how the market goes. I’m not sure why we still have these conversations. A player that’s not purely elite will be among the highest paid when they sign a new contract. Then the market goes up again and they are out of the top 10. Murray didn’t even get the full max, let alone if he would’ve achieved any accolades. Again, this is simply how it goes.
Yeah, I'm not sure how all these analysts magically think that's going to change? Do they think Westbrook is going to have that big of an effect? I think he'll help......and anything different than just "let Murray run the bench squad as Jokic rests" will be good to see tried at least.
@@KClouisville It will change if Malone come up with something useful, or maybe Jokic will help him with that. Jokic grown up to a real leader and now can help with organizing game plan.
@@KClouisvilleMalone needs to use MPJ for the second team to create some shooting and let him find his shots so when he comes back in with the starters his already warm
Denver Nuggets will win everything. They don't have to change anything. They have the best team. They really enjoy playing and proving themselves. There is no other team like this in the NBA.
I’m optimistic with the additions and having a step up by the youth. As far as Malone goes, he should definitely be ranked higher. The culture he developed and you can point to the fact that a lot of the NBA is copying the Nuggets (right?). Thanks
Of course they do. They’re literally 2nd best odds to win the west and 5th to win title (but would be favored head to head in the finals vs anyone besides MAYBE Celtics who they were 2-0 vs last yr). They’re essentially the 3rd best title odds to win. If they’re 100% healthy im taking them to beat anyone in 7 games.
Better win it this year, there is basically no chance with 3 guys getting paid over $140 million next year. Even if Jokic is probably underpaid the other 2 of them are way overpaid and will have to push their bodies close to injury nightly to make them worth their deals.
The Wolves winning is a pipe dream. OKC is NOT the best in the West. Dallas beat both of them with an injured Lulka. Now they have Klay, Marshall and Grimes? Assuming no major injuries, Dallas is easily going to be the team to beat. I'm hoping Braun takes a step up because Russ could be a great spark off the bench. But if they have to lean on him as a main cog, I think they're screwed. MPJ is the key. He can be a 25ppg scorer, but he also showed he can disappear when it matters. It's going to depend on how he plays this year.
Idk how people think the mavs getting klay is magically gonna get them a finals win! Klay has played like garbage and teams are gonna attack him on defense forcing the mavs to take him out! Buddy hield would have been a better option. The mavs will be 4-5 where they’ve been for a while. Kyrie is also starting to get older and isn’t gonna be able to move how he does forever
@@fastage101 3rd most 3pt shots made in the league at 39% is "garbage"? Maybe do some work on your math skills before you comment.... The Mavs had a career 32% 3pt shooter at SF last year and Boston responded by covering Luka & Kyrie plus the Centers, then daring Washington and Jones to beat them from the outside (and they responded by shooting under 20% for the series). Then the bench players were equally bad. Klay has never shot worse than 39% and has never played with an actual PG who could get him open looks, and now you have two 38% 3pt shooters who play tough defense coming off the bench. In 5 games, Dallas lost by double digits twice, by 7 pts twice, and won by the 3rd largest marging in the history of NBA Finals. Now you've replaced 3 non-shooters with 3 guys shooting 38%-40%? And you don't see how it will help? Are you drunk? Did you forget Doncic is the 2nd leading playoff scorer in history, but was playing the entire playoffs on a sprained knee and played the Finals with a sternum bruise on top of it? And STILL averaged 29/10/6 against Boston? Yeah, I'm liking our chances.
@@SDesWriter you don’t need shooting to win championships you need defense . Look at all the teams that have won lately. They have dominated on defense in the post season. You also need a guy who’s gonna contribute not only in shooting but rebounds and assist and klay doesn’t do that. Klay averages 2 assist per game and 3 rebounds that’s not good enough for your teams 3rd best player. Klay has been terrible in the post season the last 2 years. You just lost not 1 but 2 key pieces on defense. The reason why it worked in GS is because they had 3 guys who could defend whole curry and Klay shoot. Luca is far below average on defense and kyrie is good against guards but struggles against match ups. Denver’s starting 5 is beyond better than the mavs. Murray is below kyrie, AG is far better than PJ, MPJ has out played Klay and shoots the same percentage he rebounds way more, and Christian can play stellar defense especially on big bodied SG which Luka is, jokic is still the best player in the world. You need defense and offense and yall don’t have defense. Let alone Luka has health concerns and Klay is 34. Plays 3% is 2% higher than league average but his FG% is 3% lower than league average. And every player has injuries in the playoffs don’t give me the excuse that his ankle was beat up
@@fastage101 Dallas held Boston to 20ppg below their average. How much better does their defense need to be? They lost because they couldn't hit open sots. It allowed Boston to go on runs and it gave up easy fastbreak opportunities. Yes, Luka being healthy means another 5-10ppg, but that would barely be enough to make them competitive against Boston's defense (even better than the Mavs). They needed a 15-20ppg scorer and now they have him plus 2 bench players to bring in for defense and knock down open shots. Boston can get hotter from 3, but they can't play any better as a team. Brown is a 22ppg guy and Tatum tends to play below his average in the big games. KP is their only ace in the hole, if he manages to stay healthy for once. Then again, Lively won't be a rookie this time around and I think that contest will be closer as well.
@@SDesWriter and they got rid of 3 defensive pieces. And you need Luka to be an active defender and not get cooked by the other teams best play. And I personally don’t think the mavs make it back to the finals because the west is so stacked.
Depending on how coach plays the roster I agree. If he keeps refusing to develop young talent we’re in trouble. Payton Watson needs to see like 1600 minutes this season with significant time on court w/ Jok
I have a feeling AG will explode this season in memory of his brother, just like RJ Barrett will for the Raptors. Grief can do that to you and make you extra motivated to work hard.
They got worse. Russ is far from prime Russ so he shouldn't play more than 15-20m a game during the regular season, and CB is not the screen navigator KCP was so guards will get downhill on Jokic a lot more and the defense will collapse and suffer against good 3 point teams. We also have no one who can shoot 3s outside of 3 starters, allegedly Strawther but he's got to do it for a couple seasons before I will rely on him to make them. Also we haven't seen Murray yet but he looked hobbled in the Olympics, like he didn't heal from the season. And you can bet he is furious most of the sports world said he isn't worth $50m a year, but historically Murray is injured if he pushes early in the season so that anger might backfire. With Russ around who has his own problems, I could see a big fight or something happening sending Murray to a suspension with Russ barking bad things in Murray's ear.
@@FrankM-u1wlmao Russ is gonna motivate Murray that he needs to play like an all star. Russ is also gonna push him in practice to play better and harder. Murray is gonna be a beast because of Russ. Russ is also gonna provide energy we’ve never had on the second team. CB may not navigate screens as good as KCP but he’s good at it. CB also brings a presence towards the paint KCP didn’t bring, Braun also does better on bigger SG which a lot of teams have now. Peyton should be better and was a force on defense last year. Sheesh if you want a heavy defensive team 😂the huge length you go jokic,Murray, Peyton,AG, and MPJ that’s so much damn length to play against
No, the team will not win the Western Conference unless there are a lot of injuries. Their biggest threats are the Timberwolves, Thunder, and Mavericks. I doubt that Malone will ever be considered a top 5 or top 15 coach. I don't think Malone is that great of a coach, and Jokic has to make up for many of his awful coaching decisions.
The year Denver won in 2023 they had in reality best starting 8 but after trading Bruce B and Jeff last year Denver N and even Mainstream M are trying to sell us story about best starting 5. So SWIPA this year are trying to sell us on best starting 4 hahaha.. Lets face it this year will be a disaster and next year after you lose AG i dont see a reason of keeping Jokic in Denver anymore after project dynasty kick in witch is dead on arrival ..
This comparison of Jokic to Mozart is absurd! "Did anybody coach Mozart?" Mozart was 5'4" !! There is absolutely no way he could dunk or rebound! Of course Michael Malone wouldn't start him!
Nobody ever wants to hold the NBA’s oligarchs responsible for the league prioritizing profits over sports competition. The CBA will completely waste the best player in basketball. Our local oligarch has so much money, he could pay any salaries needed, and his decedents will live off his money for generations. This is turning into a bad joke! 🙃🙃🙃
Basically you’re asking 3 rookies to play at veteran level lol
You had 1 rookie you asked to play like a veteran put championship and he excelled!
What is the OKC thunder to you? I thought it was a bunch a young players playing as veterans, what about you?
@@fastage101 Braun? He was okay but to say he "excelled" is a bit reach. He had good moments here and there but he was trash mid last post-season.
@@LeonarRonquillo trash his rookie year? He was a key contributor sparked energy for the and helped win multiple games in Miami
@@fastage101 He sparked energy off the bench, sure. But his 3pts and 2 rebounds in their 2023 championship run is barely noticeable. You Denver fans acting like because he exudes energy while playing it equates to being good.
Saying he excelled is damn laughable.
That's great they seem to love being under dogs.
0:05 yep, my thoughts exactly swipe😂, i swear its like people are forgetting just how good the nuggets are, AGAIN😂
EXACTLY!!!
I don’t get how losing KCP takes us out of contention but they never wanted to give KCP all defensive credit
So basically Are We Better then last year? No, we are worse! Are others Better then last year? Yes they are! Simple...
Start Watson and Braun. Bring MPJ off the bench with Russ, run a 5 out with the Second unit and possibly push leads. Braun Watson and Gordon can be a solid defensive and athletic trio to play alongside Jokic and Murray. It might take a few games to get them acclimated to their new roles but defensively they can make a huge immediate impact. Russ has played with Durant and MPJ has a very similar game. They may end up having great chemistry.
Hopefully yes
Dario Saric, Vlatko Cancar. Both those dudes can shoot. Trey Alexander, dude can shoot.
Jamal has higher paycheck than Luka Doncic and same as Stephen Curry ...omg
This is simply how the market goes. I’m not sure why we still have these conversations. A player that’s not purely elite will be among the highest paid when they sign a new contract. Then the market goes up again and they are out of the top 10. Murray didn’t even get the full max, let alone if he would’ve achieved any accolades. Again, this is simply how it goes.
Malone cant create anything for the second squad for years, Jokic plus-minus says that.
Yeah, I'm not sure how all these analysts magically think that's going to change? Do they think Westbrook is going to have that big of an effect? I think he'll help......and anything different than just "let Murray run the bench squad as Jokic rests" will be good to see tried at least.
@@KClouisville It will change if Malone come up with something useful, or maybe Jokic will help him with that. Jokic grown up to a real leader and now can help with organizing game plan.
@@KClouisvilleMalone needs to use MPJ for the second team to create some shooting and let him find his shots so when he comes back in with the starters his already warm
Denver Nuggets will win everything. They don't have to change anything. They have the best team. They really enjoy playing and proving themselves. There is no other team like this in the NBA.
I’m optimistic with the additions and having a step up by the youth. As far as Malone goes, he should definitely be ranked higher. The culture he developed and you can point to the fact that a lot of the NBA is copying the Nuggets (right?). Thanks
Of course they do. They’re literally 2nd best odds to win the west and 5th to win title (but would be favored head to head in the finals vs anyone besides MAYBE Celtics who they were 2-0 vs last yr).
They’re essentially the 3rd best title odds to win. If they’re 100% healthy im taking them to beat anyone in 7 games.
Better win it this year, there is basically no chance with 3 guys getting paid over $140 million next year. Even if Jokic is probably underpaid the other 2 of them are way overpaid and will have to push their bodies close to injury nightly to make them worth their deals.
The Wolves winning is a pipe dream. OKC is NOT the best in the West. Dallas beat both of them with an injured Lulka. Now they have Klay, Marshall and Grimes? Assuming no major injuries, Dallas is easily going to be the team to beat.
I'm hoping Braun takes a step up because Russ could be a great spark off the bench. But if they have to lean on him as a main cog, I think they're screwed. MPJ is the key. He can be a 25ppg scorer, but he also showed he can disappear when it matters. It's going to depend on how he plays this year.
Idk how people think the mavs getting klay is magically gonna get them a finals win! Klay has played like garbage and teams are gonna attack him on defense forcing the mavs to take him out! Buddy hield would have been a better option. The mavs will be 4-5 where they’ve been for a while. Kyrie is also starting to get older and isn’t gonna be able to move how he does forever
@@fastage101 3rd most 3pt shots made in the league at 39% is "garbage"? Maybe do some work on your math skills before you comment....
The Mavs had a career 32% 3pt shooter at SF last year and Boston responded by covering Luka & Kyrie plus the Centers, then daring Washington and Jones to beat them from the outside (and they responded by shooting under 20% for the series). Then the bench players were equally bad. Klay has never shot worse than 39% and has never played with an actual PG who could get him open looks, and now you have two 38% 3pt shooters who play tough defense coming off the bench.
In 5 games, Dallas lost by double digits twice, by 7 pts twice, and won by the 3rd largest marging in the history of NBA Finals. Now you've replaced 3 non-shooters with 3 guys shooting 38%-40%? And you don't see how it will help? Are you drunk? Did you forget Doncic is the 2nd leading playoff scorer in history, but was playing the entire playoffs on a sprained knee and played the Finals with a sternum bruise on top of it? And STILL averaged 29/10/6 against Boston?
Yeah, I'm liking our chances.
@@SDesWriter you don’t need shooting to win championships you need defense . Look at all the teams that have won lately. They have dominated on defense in the post season. You also need a guy who’s gonna contribute not only in shooting but rebounds and assist and klay doesn’t do that. Klay averages 2 assist per game and 3 rebounds that’s not good enough for your teams 3rd best player. Klay has been terrible in the post season the last 2 years. You just lost not 1 but 2 key pieces on defense. The reason why it worked in GS is because they had 3 guys who could defend whole curry and Klay shoot. Luca is far below average on defense and kyrie is good against guards but struggles against match ups. Denver’s starting 5 is beyond better than the mavs. Murray is below kyrie, AG is far better than PJ, MPJ has out played Klay and shoots the same percentage he rebounds way more, and Christian can play stellar defense especially on big bodied SG which Luka is, jokic is still the best player in the world. You need defense and offense and yall don’t have defense. Let alone Luka has health concerns and Klay is 34. Plays 3% is 2% higher than league average but his FG% is 3% lower than league average. And every player has injuries in the playoffs don’t give me the excuse that his ankle was beat up
@@fastage101 Dallas held Boston to 20ppg below their average. How much better does their defense need to be? They lost because they couldn't hit open sots. It allowed Boston to go on runs and it gave up easy fastbreak opportunities. Yes, Luka being healthy means another 5-10ppg, but that would barely be enough to make them competitive against Boston's defense (even better than the Mavs). They needed a 15-20ppg scorer and now they have him plus 2 bench players to bring in for defense and knock down open shots.
Boston can get hotter from 3, but they can't play any better as a team. Brown is a 22ppg guy and Tatum tends to play below his average in the big games. KP is their only ace in the hole, if he manages to stay healthy for once. Then again, Lively won't be a rookie this time around and I think that contest will be closer as well.
@@SDesWriter and they got rid of 3 defensive pieces. And you need Luka to be an active defender and not get cooked by the other teams best play. And I personally don’t think the mavs make it back to the finals because the west is so stacked.
We’re probably better off underrated and written off. Historically league wide attention and great Nuggets teams don’t mesh well re: playoff success.
People do not understand that Nuggets are BETTER this season!!
Depending on how coach plays the roster I agree. If he keeps refusing to develop young talent we’re in trouble. Payton Watson needs to see like 1600 minutes this season with significant time on court w/ Jok
I’m a nuggets fan too but let’s be real, they’ve only gotten worse.
I have a feeling AG will explode this season in memory of his brother, just like RJ Barrett will for the Raptors. Grief can do that to you and make you extra motivated to work hard.
They got worse. Russ is far from prime Russ so he shouldn't play more than 15-20m a game during the regular season, and CB is not the screen navigator KCP was so guards will get downhill on Jokic a lot more and the defense will collapse and suffer against good 3 point teams. We also have no one who can shoot 3s outside of 3 starters, allegedly Strawther but he's got to do it for a couple seasons before I will rely on him to make them.
Also we haven't seen Murray yet but he looked hobbled in the Olympics, like he didn't heal from the season. And you can bet he is furious most of the sports world said he isn't worth $50m a year, but historically Murray is injured if he pushes early in the season so that anger might backfire. With Russ around who has his own problems, I could see a big fight or something happening sending Murray to a suspension with Russ barking bad things in Murray's ear.
@@FrankM-u1wlmao Russ is gonna motivate Murray that he needs to play like an all star. Russ is also gonna push him in practice to play better and harder. Murray is gonna be a beast because of Russ. Russ is also gonna provide energy we’ve never had on the second team. CB may not navigate screens as good as KCP but he’s good at it. CB also brings a presence towards the paint KCP didn’t bring, Braun also does better on bigger SG which a lot of teams have now. Peyton should be better and was a force on defense last year. Sheesh if you want a heavy defensive team 😂the huge length you go jokic,Murray, Peyton,AG, and MPJ that’s so much damn length to play against
No, the team will not win the Western Conference unless there are a lot of injuries. Their biggest threats are the Timberwolves, Thunder, and Mavericks. I doubt that Malone will ever be considered a top 5 or top 15 coach. I don't think Malone is that great of a coach, and Jokic has to make up for many of his awful coaching decisions.
Corny crying and overreacting
The year Denver won in 2023 they had in reality best starting 8 but after trading Bruce B and Jeff last year Denver N and even Mainstream M are trying to sell us story about best starting 5.
So SWIPA this year are trying to sell us on best starting 4 hahaha..
Lets face it this year will be a disaster and next year after you lose AG i dont see a reason of keeping Jokic in Denver anymore after project dynasty kick in witch is dead on arrival ..
Zero chance and I’m a nuggets fan. Let’s just be realistic
Your expectations for CB seem a bit unrealistic.
This comparison of Jokic to Mozart is absurd! "Did anybody coach Mozart?" Mozart was 5'4" !! There is absolutely no way he could dunk or rebound! Of course Michael Malone wouldn't start him!
Nobody ever wants to hold the NBA’s oligarchs responsible for the league prioritizing profits over sports competition. The CBA will completely waste the best player in basketball. Our local oligarch has so much money, he could pay any salaries needed, and his decedents will live off his money for generations. This is turning into a bad joke! 🙃🙃🙃
Nope
bro get better camera or internet. you always hacking .
leave swipa alone !! he got the mic the camera coming next check