Ian Hislop was saying he wanted to remain friends with Angus and saddened that it didn't happen. The way Ian talked to him especially since the story came out you could see why Angus didn't want to.
Angus had to accept that this would happen because of his actions and the position and personality he cultivated on the show. He can't honestly complain about the actions of Paul and Ian - I think ignoring the issue or moving on too quickly would have been hypocritical and would have ruined the integrity of the show. I do however, believe the show was better with Angus or at least with a permanent host. The guests host novelty has gone on for too long now.....but you can't argue with the show's success
The guest host isn't a novelty, though. It's just that HIGNFY is the one big panel show where the host is a guest as well. It's just a fixed feature. It doesn't add or remove anything, but can make interesting ones themselves a novelty so there are 3 rather than 2 shots at a new fun face for that week
I respectfully disagree. I think the guest hosts add a chaotic element which makes the show more unpredictable and fun. Angus always seemed a smug twat to me, and the show was always about Ian and Paul, really.
@@truecentral718 I respectfully agree with you. A show that might be hosted by Ann Widdecombe one week and Richard Ayoade the next is going to be unpredictable and fun. Ann wasn't the greatest host, but I thought she made the show really funny, mostly at her own expense.
Just me then? I'm early, I'll get the punch and biscuits ready for everyone else when they come in to comment. One cup of Punch, One Biscuit. Got it. (doing it with a civil smile)
I have watched all 56 series of Have I Got News for You, and I can say that it definitely improved after Angus Deayton left. There is added freshness in a different host each week.
He's said he'll never go back and the only episode he watched is the one with Michael Aspel hosting. Personally I think he should go on as a guest panellist.
Qudos to the woman in the audience...I wasn't a great fan of Angus Deayton and a bit of ribbing is one thing but I would call what Hislop and Merton were doing, workplace bullying and not very pleasant to listen to.
People can say what they want about Paul and Ian being mean to Angus, but the program was damaged and would not have lasted or been able to pock fun at public figures with him at the helm. The show got better without Angus.
The show did NOT get better after Angus Deayton. If anything, it got worse because the audience saw that the team of three is actually not a "team" in the real meaning of the word since they don't care about each other. They should be with Deayton, not against him. The "we're three friends talking about the news" illusion disappeared and it was one of the most important things that was keeping the show going. We were mostly watching these three characters and their relationships, the news are easy to come by in any platform.
The show was great but the different guest hosts have definitely added to it. After all the further news of Angus was coming out it was becoming too hard to do the show. If he'd stayed on it probably would not have lasted. Its a shame but I think it couldn't be helped/
Why should they support Angus if they don't agree with his actions? He cheated on his wife to do illegal drugs with sex workers. That is horrible. Cruel. Unethical. Heartless. The drugs were a crime. If my coworker cheats on their spouse and commits a crime, I won't support them for the sake of my company.
@@janeeyre1990 well she wasn't his wife but yes he did cheat on her. He claims he didn't know this woman was a prostitute, he did a very stupid thing regardless. I've seen people do cocaine, its illegal but at least he wasnt' doing Heroin.
Does anybody know what Ian and Paul might have been saying to Angus before this happened? I mean, had that sort of activity been an ongoing concern (doing coke with a hooker sounds like something that doesn't usually happen only once), and they had warned him time after time that he needed to get control of himself? Had he ignored them after they warned him there would be consequences? I think the answers to those questions would shed some light on any bad blood that became apparent, and if we don't know the answers to those questions, I think it sheds light on our own rush to judgement. I think there are always important details to celebrity scandals that the public never gets to know, which is why I really don't like hearing about them. We are guaranteed to get only part of the story because most of it is (rightfully) private.
@@soeffingwhat--- I'm willing to bet that you, Ian, and Paul have all done something the public would disapprove of that's really none of the public's business. I bet you're as pure as the driven snow, huh?
The tension in that room is incredibly thick, and it is obvious that none of them want to be there. Ian and Paul are incredibly smug and sanctimonious about other peoples' personal foibles and peccadilloes, and I fantasize about their comeuppances coming in various humiliating scenarios. Oh, and thanks so much, +RIXRADvidz, some punch and biscuits would be lovely! For some reason, my mouth is very dry and I'm starving...
Except that the previous episode proved that Angus was now a liability, as he was part of the story, not a commentator of it, regardless of whether it was private or not. It was now a public story and was fodder for anyone coming on there or a critic of the program. Deaton should have resigned voluntarily for the good of the show; but, that would require actual moral fiber and courage, which a coke snorting binge with prostitutes, while being in a long term relationship does not demonstrate.
The show is based on taking the piss out of politicians and celebrities and calling them on their behavior and actions. There was no way Angus continue in the role without looking like a hypocrite, and by extension so would the show. Paul, particularly was pretty miffed with Angus.
Aw poor baby Angus, being bullied for cheating on his wife and doing illegal drugs Waaaaah!! Why can't the poor baby break his wedding vows and commit crimes without any negative consequences? WAAAAAAAAAAAH !!! 😭 [/heavy sarcasm]
He wasn't married to Lise, and also if people who cheat on their partners are to be pilloried then why is Charles still allowed to be king? I don't have an opinion on drug use, except that you should probably start. Antidepressants might be good, but only since anticunt medication doesn't exist.
@@michaelj.beglinjr.2804 Unfortunately it got out, though, and in the same way that HIGNFY and Angus himself had a go at people's public lives made private, it is people's business.
Ian Hislop was saying he wanted to remain friends with Angus and saddened that it didn't happen. The way Ian talked to him especially since the story came out you could see why Angus didn't want to.
Thanks for posting.
Thanks.
Angus had to accept that this would happen because of his actions and the position and personality he cultivated on the show. He can't honestly complain about the actions of Paul and Ian - I think ignoring the issue or moving on too quickly would have been hypocritical and would have ruined the integrity of the show. I do however, believe the show was better with Angus or at least with a permanent host. The guests host novelty has gone on for too long now.....but you can't argue with the show's success
The guest host isn't a novelty, though. It's just that HIGNFY is the one big panel show where the host is a guest as well. It's just a fixed feature. It doesn't add or remove anything, but can make interesting ones themselves a novelty so there are 3 rather than 2 shots at a new fun face for that week
@@harsimaja9517 It did add something, the different guest host probably added to the longevity of it. Maybe not, but I think it did.
I like the diversity of personalities - and some of their appearances were outstanding!
I respectfully disagree. I think the guest hosts add a chaotic element which makes the show more unpredictable and fun. Angus always seemed a smug twat to me, and the show was always about Ian and Paul, really.
@@truecentral718 I respectfully agree with you. A show that might be hosted by Ann Widdecombe one week and Richard Ayoade the next is going to be unpredictable and fun. Ann wasn't the greatest host, but I thought she made the show really funny, mostly at her own expense.
Sorry, but it must be said: the bowman hath style! Thanks again.
what about s24e03 which apparently had Paul Merton hosting - would love to see that one. Do they just skip that one when playing reruns?
Nope. It sucked. Period
@@simsum1argh882 You placed the period. Then you wrote it, without placing one. And your opinion wasn't asked for. Hyphen
@@PureGreggy I hope you find a lump in your head that turns out to be cancer. I had cancer once. Have fun with the chemo treatment!!
@@PureGreggy He doesn't need to be asked for his opinion to give it, nor does anyone else.
Just me then? I'm early, I'll get the punch and biscuits ready for everyone else when they come in to comment. One cup of Punch, One Biscuit. Got it. (doing it with a civil smile)
RIXRADvidz we meet again good sir. What are your feelings on Ian and Paul's treatment of Angus?
Elton John had a full beard on the cover of Honky Château. A mustache is part of that, right?
I have watched all 56 series of Have I Got News for You, and I can say that it definitely improved after Angus Deayton left. There is added freshness in a different host each week.
He's said he'll never go back and the only episode he watched is the one with Michael Aspel hosting. Personally I think he should go on as a guest panellist.
Rolf Harris???? LOL lol
Isn't hindsight wonderful.
Qudos to the woman in the audience...I wasn't a great fan of Angus Deayton and a bit of ribbing is one thing but I would call what Hislop and Merton were doing, workplace bullying and not very pleasant to listen to.
crybaby
People can say what they want about Paul and Ian being mean to Angus, but the program was damaged and would not have lasted or been able to pock fun at public figures with him at the helm. The show got better without Angus.
Samuel Morel name three guests bar Clarkson and boris that have been memorable
I can name more Charles Kennedy, William Hague, Jo Brand, Alexander Armstrong, Katherine Ryan, and Jeremy Paxman to name just a few.
They don't hold a candle to Angus with his dry wit and timing
Angus is a talented man, but personal scandal made it impossible for him to stay
@@samuelmorel9340 Don't forget Brian Blessed
The show did NOT get better after Angus Deayton. If anything, it got worse because the audience saw that the team of three is actually not a "team" in the real meaning of the word since they don't care about each other. They should be with Deayton, not against him. The "we're three friends talking about the news" illusion disappeared and it was one of the most important things that was keeping the show going. We were mostly watching these three characters and their relationships, the news are easy to come by in any platform.
The show was great but the different guest hosts have definitely added to it. After all the further news of Angus was coming out it was becoming too hard to do the show. If he'd stayed on it probably would not have lasted. Its a shame but I think it couldn't be helped/
Why should they support Angus if they don't agree with his actions?
He cheated on his wife to do illegal drugs with sex workers.
That is horrible. Cruel. Unethical. Heartless. The drugs were a crime.
If my coworker cheats on their spouse and commits a crime, I won't support them for the sake of my company.
@@janeeyre1990 well she wasn't his wife but yes he did cheat on her. He claims he didn't know this woman was a prostitute, he did a very stupid thing regardless. I've seen people do cocaine, its illegal but at least he wasnt' doing Heroin.
Does anybody know what Ian and Paul might have been saying to Angus before this happened? I mean, had that sort of activity been an ongoing concern (doing coke with a hooker sounds like something that doesn't usually happen only once), and they had warned him time after time that he needed to get control of himself? Had he ignored them after they warned him there would be consequences? I think the answers to those questions would shed some light on any bad blood that became apparent, and if we don't know the answers to those questions, I think it sheds light on our own rush to judgement. I think there are always important details to celebrity scandals that the public never gets to know, which is why I really don't like hearing about them. We are guaranteed to get only part of the story because most of it is (rightfully) private.
@@soeffingwhat--- I'm willing to bet that you, Ian, and Paul have all done something the public would disapprove of that's really none of the public's business. I bet you're as pure as the driven snow, huh?
The tension in that room is incredibly thick, and it is obvious that none of them want to be there. Ian and Paul are incredibly smug and sanctimonious about other peoples' personal foibles and peccadilloes, and I fantasize about their comeuppances coming in various humiliating scenarios. Oh, and thanks so much, +RIXRADvidz, some punch and biscuits would be lovely! For some reason, my mouth is very dry and I'm starving...
Except that the previous episode proved that Angus was now a liability, as he was part of the story, not a commentator of it, regardless of whether it was private or not. It was now a public story and was fodder for anyone coming on there or a critic of the program. Deaton should have resigned voluntarily for the good of the show; but, that would require actual moral fiber and courage, which a coke snorting binge with prostitutes, while being in a long term relationship does not demonstrate.
The show is based on taking the piss out of politicians and celebrities and calling them on their behavior and actions. There was no way Angus continue in the role without looking like a hypocrite, and by extension so would the show. Paul, particularly was pretty miffed with Angus.
Aw poor baby Angus, being bullied for cheating on his wife and doing illegal drugs
Waaaaah!! Why can't the poor baby break his wedding vows and commit crimes without any negative consequences?
WAAAAAAAAAAAH !!! 😭
[/heavy sarcasm]
He wasn't married to Lise, and also if people who cheat on their partners are to be pilloried then why is Charles still allowed to be king?
I don't have an opinion on drug use, except that you should probably start. Antidepressants might be good, but only since anticunt medication doesn't exist.
Even if Angus had been married at the time it would STILL be none of the public's business .
@@michaelj.beglinjr.2804 Unfortunately it got out, though, and in the same way that HIGNFY and Angus himself had a go at people's public lives made private, it is people's business.