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I'd trust Musk over Zuckerberg. But I would not submit health information to Musk, I forsee a dystopia where he or someone else will use your health information to see if you are a candidate for deep space travel.
It doesn't matter. It will creep up on you just like the necessity of having a smart phone in 2024. Without a smart phone you can't do anything. Apply for jobs, get an email address. They will slowly lower the no ose around your neck until its too late
Actually, Americans don't have an idea of what a "super app" like wechat is. Wechat doesn't develop all the services by itself or own those services, but provide a platform that all the other apps can join it and integrate their services into Wechat as "mini apps". It's more convinient to use mutiple services in Wechat than opening and switching them from dozens of individual apps. Wechat or Alipay are acting like a sub-operating-system that run on Android or iOS.
It always seemed to me like an unnecessary extra step for a consumer. I can see the appeal of it from a business' point of view; You want to advertise, see browsing/clicking habits, purchase history, etc. Then just make the OS like Apple & Google does. Even Amazon does it with its Fire TV, tablets & Kindle lines. Maybe a person who's too lazy to input their card purcbase information for different vendors everytime might like it but Apple, PayPal, CashApp, Venmo, Amazon Pay, Samsung Pay, Google Wallet, etc have found ways to deal with it.
Supplement: mini APPs uses h5 technology, and China people will only regard it as a substitute for low-frequency temporary scenes, such as ordering food in restaurants, renting bike-sharing, library services, light casual games, etc. If a certain function is to be used heavily, China people will still download an independent app.
Sadly, "we" do. Apple users use everything through Apple and [heavy] Google users will do the same. If Apple released something like this, most apple users will use it. Also, it isn't a monopoly. They don't have to own the items they link to. If Apple launched this, Apple would just link to the doctors. They wouldn't own the doctors, even though they'd be getting paid from it in some way like the advertisements or such.
Google would beg to differ (RUclips, Google, Maps, etc) Amazon would also beg to differ (AWS, Amazon Data Services) US car manufacturers all lobbying government to ban foreign competition would beg to differ
Companies should to strive to innovate and by putting yourself in a superapp ecosystem you become fundamentally bound by the rules of the platform owner. In which case the owner can enact measures to reduce the competitiveness of these smaller app developers. Apple already does this, we don't want another company to do the same but on an even larger scale
CNBC delete my comment that Wechat might be a super app but it's not the most popular in most areas 1.Leader in short videos Douyin (TikTok) 2. Leader in e-commerce (Alibaba and Temu) 3.Leader in streaming (iQiyi, Tencent Video) 4.Leader in food delivery Meituan 5. Leader in Car hailing Didi, 6.Leader in Search Baidu, the App environment is very vibrant in China not just wechat which only dominate chat and payment
@@LKH98 no that's not true, Alibaba, Baidu and Byte Dance are huge rivals to Tecent, Tecent does have minority stake in Meituan and PDD, but it far from a monopoly, in fact Byte Dance's revenue surpass Tencent for the first time last year.
@@LKH98 No that's no true, Alibaba, Baidu and Bytedance are huge rivals to Tencent, in fact Bytedance revenue has surpassed Tencent's so while Tencent is huge it's far from a monopoly.
No that's no true, Alibaba, Baidu and Bytedance are huge rivals to Tencent, in fact Bytedance revenue has surpassed Tencent's so it's far from a monopoly. My comment keeps getting deleted lmao
Facebook is already excessively intrusive. It constantly wants more than I'm willing to share. I'd love to get away from it, sadly it is the only semi-reliable way I have to keep in contact with some people I really do know as friends separated by hundreds, thousands of miles perhaps across borders.
Adding functions to app is easy, the hard thing is to have everyone using your app. The most "super" thing about WeChat is that every Chinese is using it.
Yes, THANKYOU .. wechat is a rubbish app, but cultural conformity is high, and there are no protections for competition or consumers..So the first app to market will never be overthrown.
i see no purpose in a superapp. Basically, something like the iOS ecosystem, or the google ecosystem is essentially a superapp. You still have to click different things to get into each function in a superapp - it isn't much different than just a different app in the same ecosystem. All you need is for the ecosystems to communicate better with each other. iOS apps already all communicate well with each other - just make some additional improvements where needed. If payment is the issue, apple pay or google pay is already like an underlying payment system. If a login is the issue - the apple ID for iOS, or google account for any google app already integrates everything.
It seems that you don't know much about China's super apps. There are thousands of restaurants, bars, hotels, and grocery stores, and it is impossible for them to develop an app. They can provide business services by connecting to super apps and making a few simple pages themselves. The cost is very low, and customers don't need to install an app that they may only use once. This is an important reason why almost all industries in Chinese society are highly digitized.
@@rosebomb9251 A superapp is just a package that contains multiple apps within it. Each function is an app. Each tab is an app. That is how software works. Do you think the Wechat software, which originally handled only chats, can handle maps, payment, and restaurants, without new modules/code added to the program? Each piece of new code is an app. The difference is merely how you package and "name" it. In a superapp, you automatically have all these sub-apps installed - same as iOS - all of apple's main apps are preinstalled. If Apple prevented you from deleting any of those apps, and wrapped it all up under a single icon on your phone that you open and then press a sub-button within the app to access, you would call it a superapp.
@@rosebomb9251stores and customers in North America already connect online through Google; PoSs integrate with IoS and Android payment systems. And many restaurants already use apps like Open Table for booking services. Can the process between these apps and services be better streamlined? Yes, but that is already happening. I struggle to see how an expensive (to develop) Super App will make a real difference here.
@ nah, I just don't need my every single purchase and shopping habits being monitored and collected by corporations and a government that wants to control every person like dogs on a leash. But I guess you enjoy being a good puppy for your masters. Who's a good BOY?! Is it YOU?! Is IT?!
Why U.S. Tech Companies Struggle To Replicate China's - Manufacturing, -drones, -evs, energy transition, commercial shipping, mega constructions, high speed rail. the list goes on.
@@MrBestard US and eu is good at talking.Then find a bunch of talkers indians work for them. You know what the result will be. At least us is better for introducing global talents.
In China you can do anything as long as there isn't a law against it, the government will regulate it once problems occur. In the US you need permissions to do anything so politicians get lobbying money.
It's not a monopoly because wechat is just hosting those "mini apps", not owning. And it is strictly oversaw by a government that have the citizen's best interest in mind, not corporations and billionaires. But i can see why Americans are trying to falsely spin this into an excuse for monopoly so that they can practise it that way when they do it.
"the citizen's best interest in mind" gurrrrrl, I laughed harder than I have in a long time. But what greater comedy can there be from a culture that celebrates a man like Mao that starved, imprisoned, and eliminated more Chinese citizens than any World War. It must be such a great power to control the thoughts and minds of an entire nation of over 1Bil through one single app. Our corporations and billionaires in the West can only dream of that.
it's called a cellphone. lol. it's the same thing, except the navigation is through 1 app, or through a cellphone. Imagine the difference between finding the right area to get to a specific function within 1 app vs finding the right app for a specific function. kettle and pot, different, but very similar in functionality.
@@SifisoMoabj Are you making the argument that diversification is worse for the consumer than the consolidation of all our services under one tech company?
This report seems very biased as it does not sufficiently address its history and downsides. The adoption of a super app was also presented as desirable and the opposing arguments were glossed over as hurdles to overcome. Super apps appeared when one company was able to dominate a market, providing billing, accounts and communication to its participants. Log in with x and pay with y eliminate this need in the west. A super app is just a bad second layer OS. P.S. A company having multiple apps does not make it a super app. Google search, mail, maps, docs and RUclips show how it can be done right.
Seriously. This video seems like something coming out of Davos. "You'll only have ONE app and you'll like it!" (because they don't want you to have a choice)
I already have a “super app”: my phone. It takes two movements or less to switch between apps. Each app’s UI is then perfected for what it does, easy to navigate, and not cluttered with multiple functions. Apple Pay makes payments across all apps seamless already. And it leaves space for innovation and new entrants to the app ecosystem, since no company can lock in all users with network effects and a so-called “walled garden”.
Super apps in the west already exist, they are called browsers. It's not annoying to have many apps, it's annoying to have apps that could've just been a webpage.
Fair point! I'd say, Uber can also be considered a super appp of sorts. Yeah, Facebook is definitely a super app. Heck, Discord in some ways is a super app in itself!
@@TrentonMatthews Uber is a good example of too many apps, I don't get it how it is better than a normal taxi. A few times I was in a place in need of transportation, I have tried ubber, bolt and those scotters, with any of them I found my self needing to download an app on mobile data, then having to create an account, create a virtual credit card, all that while wasting much needed battery and time, and in the end it was more expensive than just calling a taxi, even the e-scotter was more expensive than a safer taxi. With a taxi I just rise my hand and it stops for me, usually have to wait a bit for one to come by, but in my experience less than the time to setup ubber app, and if I'm far away from busy roads I can just call or text the taxi phone number and ask for one, and I pay with cash or with a normal debit card swipe. And the second time I needed a ride, there where no Ubers in the area but there were Bolts, so I had to install another app and go through all the installation process, and in all this I had to agree to terms that I didn't read and I bet I don't agree with them, which I hate. Normal taxis are fine for me, they are regulated, and I don't have to give my all life and details away just to use a service. Edit: And then there is another hassle of having to send emails to close the accounts and delete all my data (I don't even know if they actually deleted it, I can only trust that they followed GDPR), there where no simple "delete my account" button in the app.
The notion of a super app is a slight misnomer. While the likes of WeChat/Weixin can do payments, messaging - a lot of the functionality are provided by other companies (e.g. Didi for taxi). You're replacing multiple apps with one app that hosts many mini apps within it (kinda like an operating system within your operating system) - but it can track your activity very effectively - that is the most concerning part.
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Nah our phones are already super apps. Don’t want one company to have access to all of my data. And the tech bros are just a bunch of fascists so there is no way I’m going to give them access to everything.
lol so you want a bunch of different companies to have access to your data. sorry to tell you that thousands of companies have your data because it's totally legal to buy and sell. but in china it's not
@ sure they have loads of data but it’s not all connected. RUclips for example may know what I like to watch but they don’t know if I make an appointment with my doctor. Or what bank I use. If it’s just one app all that information is in one place.
Like the video stated, in America were never going to have just one app that does everything, we’re gonna have a combination of maybe three or four apps that does everything
Super App is not necessary equivalent to a Super company. It could be the idea of integrating many apps at the user interface level. Under the hood, it still interacts with independent entities.
Supplement: mini APPs uses h5 technology, and China people will only regard it as a substitute for low-frequency temporary scenes, such as ordering food in restaurants, renting bike-sharing, library services, light casual games, etc. If a certain function is to be used heavily, China people will still download an independent app.
Terrible idea for privacy, but WeChat actually fine for security for most Chinese users (I.e, those without any problems with the government) as all users that use payment services are required to be real name registered, and authenticated through the Government’s ID register.
@@Jason-wp2nq 'as all users that use payment services are required to be real name registered, and authenticated through the Government’s ID register.' you act like you don't need this in the west to open the bank account lol. Stop being paranoid.
A superapp can become quite cumbersome and confusing and directionless if its made by a single party. Individual features would not receive the same level of detailed development to improve in the future. I read a comment saying that wechat just allows other apps to act as mini-apps on there. If thats the case, then it is somewhat better for the individual apps. However, the future is NOT superapps, but an AI that is able to connect all apps and services together. So technically i think it matters less if an apps joins every service imaginable since your smartphone is already a "superapp" and being able to access everything with Ai without having to do it manually is the more effective path to the future.
You mean a web browser? The idea of apps was to have standalones, so we're going back. Opera has speed dials on its homepage so I can put the pizza hut order webpage, the amazon website, etc all on one homepage.
Why would I want 1 app for everything? That just feels like a nightmare to navigate. The point of apps is so you can use a different one for a specialized need you have.
In the west it's best not to have a super app. It doesn't foster competition and instead can and will be used a form of control just like in China and other countries. The ability to use other apps or have the choice of other apps is freedom.
At the same time it’s annoying when you need to download a new app for every little thing in the US. I think some apps definitely should be combined into a common interface. Like paying for parking, it’s always dumb when I need to download a new app or make a new account to pay for parking.
I feel that the "experts" are missing an important aspect of why something like WeChat was able to grow the way it has. There was no real competition. We already have all these platforms that are already big. There is no real unique selling point to switch to something else.
There was tons of competition, there is still a lot of competition. If anything, there is more competition in China then in rest of the world, they are communist in name and some aspects, but majority of their market is wild west style capitalism.
The issue with super app is that the threat of having our personal data stolen all at once much easier, let alone the anti-monopoly laws in the United States is making such notion improbable
The only reason super apps work in China is that they don't have the apple app store or Google play on top of a standard OS. Each retailer loads their own custom OS on the phone, so there is no standardization. A super app is basically that standard platform for developers to create apps/web links on top of.
You can use a browser on a mobile without installing most service apps. Yes, it's not as seamless because it's harder to gather unrelated data about the costumer.
I live in China, where super apps are the norm. It’s incredibly convenient to access multiple mini-apps within a single super app. I haven’t used cash or paid with a credit card in the past seven years.
As a Chinese, Wechat is just a bloatware that takes up tens of GBs of storage. It's monopoly is granted by the government because it's also a propaganda tool.
As a Chinese, I can tell you behind the monopoly is government control. And lack of competition makes Wechat a bloatware that takes up dozens of GBs with running so slow.
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Listening a few minutes, None of interviewees really understand the reason Wechat become successful in Super Apps. Questions, does those Giant want to give up years of profit to solicit partners to move in? Does the Apps offers foolproof solutions to small businesses which help to Wechat to cornerstone the massive ecosystem and given they don't even know programming? No. Then no way it would come to US.
logically yes. But the experience of super app like WeChat is that there is no downloading installing and register at all for all applications. The super app just takes care of everything (like account register, identify verify, preference like language and region, etc) even though it’s the first time you’ve ever use a new application on this super app.
A super App is bad because if that App is hacked you lose all your information. Literally everything, your health, payment systems, how you spend your money, fingerprints, health work etc.
@@Johnwicker1903 And look at the quality of the items and service at Walmart compared to a specialty shop where people who know what they're doing run the place.
@@Johnwicker1903 I don't want to do my shopping at one store. That's how you get screwed over on pricing. I price shop between loads of different stores for the best price. Sometimes I'm willing to even pay more if a store offers a better experience. I have no interest in getting everything from one place.
@cawheeler27 Actually, it's mutiple sellers under one app. Its what amazon already does. Now imagine chat, shop, doctor, uber, Airbnb, reddit. All in one.
All those saying data privacy and monopoly concerns; trust me, as tech becomes more and more integrated with your daily life in the future, you'll just forget about those things because they'll become so commonplace that they won't even matter. Instead, you'll come to value efficiency in life more and more, become lazier, and will just want to live as efficiently as the next person. I mean, you already have a smartphone with apps that have your data, you're signed-in to RUclips right now with an IP address that pinpoints to your location, and you probably have some *private* photos uploaded to the cloud. Did those privacy concerns stop you from using these services? Nope. Because the joy and convenience outweigh all other concerns, and everyone else is doing it.
Super app aside, it's still so irritating that FB had to have a whole other app just for the simple messaging function. That idea was and is still so ridiculous, even more so given today's tech advancements. Talk about making life harder and less convenient for your users... absolutely laughable
Thanks for telling us a modern day monopoly would benefit us. Monopolies are just always so fun and have always been beneficial to the people of America!
another interesting thing about internet in china is everyone has to use their real names. I realise this clearly isn’t for everyone, but imagine an internet where you remove anonymity. you will have far less crime and verbal abuse .. etc it’s interesting how that’s playing out in china. I’m curious myself
The Chinese apps don't even have anything to do with the Chinese government. They are all private companies. But yes, I will readily acknowledge there is a cultural difference. Chinese billionaires/oligarchs are still more humble and more in tune with public sentiments than American billionaires/oligarchs. There is recency bias: the Chinese billionaire/oligarch still remembers recent revolutions and understands what happens when an uppity ruling elite becomes too out of touch with common people. The American billionaire/oligarch haven't had to worry about being overthrown in over a century. The last time they felt frightened enough to concede to workers' demands was when the USSR existed, and that was incidentally the Golden Age of the Western working class/middle class, who got to live in relative dignity, protected by some semblance of comprehensive social welfare, which is mostly gone now.
I think a big reason why we don't have a super app here in the US is because we have full-suite of services from multiple providers like Google, Apple and Samsung. China doesn't have these (Google services in particular) which is what caused a vacuum that made local super-apps thrive.
China has Apple and Samsung too you know, with the full suite of services, and they have Baidu(Chinese equivalent of Google, which has its own suite of services). Americans can't comprehend WeChat because you don't have anything like it, because these ones that you mention don't come anywhere close to WeChat in overall functionality.
This is dumb. The "super app" you are describing is called iOS or Android. If you think the OS is a super app and can do all the things, it is and can.
China and the US are two very different countries with very different consumer tastes and online cultures. It's hopeless to try to compare them. US consumers still pay by cash and card, even cheques are used regularly. Many people in China have never even seen a cheque. Payment is overwhelmingly done by scanning QR codes, even for street vendors. As for super-apps, I suspect one reason might be the language. A Chinese character packs a lot more information than an English letter. Chinese words are typically only 2 characters. You can fit a lot more information on a screen in Chinese than you can in English. Therefore an screen layout that looks good in Chinese just wouldn't work in English.
It's possible this video's tone is intended to subtly influence our opinions. China and the U.S. are different; I haven't heard of many Americans moving to China for its advantages, unlike the reverse. This appears to be a sponsored video, and we value our independence. Why should a single company have such influence over our lives? This isn't China.
It's not that Americans don't like moving to China. It's just that China or most of Asia is not immigration friendly. You need to be highly skilled and have very good Chinese language skills to go there. Even then it's a 50-50 that you get PR. And if you think about why Chinese students go abroad, most of them go to get international experience. Unlike in the past 70-80% of students go back after getting 2-5 years of experience abroad. Only few stay back. Also it's China is very competitive with 1.4 billion people, even if just 1% migrates abroad, it's 140,000 people. So situation is more nuanced than you think
WeChat is like a platform more than a app. It doesn't provide all kinds of services but has a bunch of various APIs for many tenants to host their own services.
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One of the big concern you aren't considering is the software development side. It would be such a challenge to get everything working in one super app. As well as a development nightmare to manage it all as well. To manage 1 code base for at least the mobile app would be crazy. Also, not to mention, we basically have multiple "super-apps". 1 - you have your phone itself and its OS where you can download apps and would take on average the same amount of hand movements to navigate it. 2 - Tied to the first one there already super apps through basically tech companies ecosystems i.e. Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc. The only difference is they have separate apps, but they share the same account system that shares your data throughout different apps. 3. There is an app called a browser where you have access to the whole internet which contains web apps etc. One last final point the closest thing we have to a super app is Google, you have android, Google website and app ecosystem, and Chrome.
That wouldn't be a super app, just a bigger streaming service. A super app would try to do more. Think of Netflix games and other unrelated random stuff.
Apple tried something like this with the AppleTV box. The TV app on the AppleTV can aggregate from across your streaming services and provide access to their content in a single app. The issue is that the streaming services have to share access with the TV app. Some do, like Max, but a lot don't. For example, Netflix has made clear it has no interest in sharing access with Apple or any other company. They want you in their app so they can control the experience.
That's antithetical to the point of a super app. A super app is only a super app if it's they have a monopoly on users. It's better named a monopolized app but monopolies are illegal so they don't want to call it that. Why would you use an app with both shopping and chatting if only one or two of your friends use it, and they're on other platforms, and it only has a small number of the things you buy? @@BunnyTheresa
Chinese in China love the super app. It's easy and fast. Save time and stress. China is living in 2050. Go to China and see for yourself. My family and friends did just now.
@@KayyHong This is actually the case. Most foreign competitors weren't allowed in the country and the Chinese government incentivized WeChat to dominate because it was easier for the government spy on the population if they all used the same app.
You're right, short videos will make old people and children addicted, and subconsciously change your mind! Super application is not good either. If it is a capital company, it will monopolize everything in your life! In China, Tencent is at the mercy of the government, the equivalent of a monitoring software. WeChat can lend money in China, and then it can give you social scores through software. As long as you have residual value, he will drain you dry! Super apps are more conducive to the "rich and powerful" harvest wealth! Control which stupid people.
This is an absolutely terrible idea 🤦♂️ and completely unamerican / undemocratic. This will be the fastest way to be controlled by an all powerful oligarchy. If people in this company think this is ok then we have clearly lost our values and already failed as a country 😔
Agree 100%. A super app would require that one company take over everything. That is normal in terrible countries (communist, totalitarian, etc) where people don't get choice and have no freedom or privacy. But it is a bad thing that the West should avoid at apl cost. Bluntly I'd rather have zero apps (do without) than one super app.
Travelled end of last year. Needed a ride from an airport - checked Uber, price was egregious, esp. taking into account local incomes. Checked a local alternative - half the price...
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Absolutely not using a super app owned by Musk or Zuckerberg.
or someone else, doesn't matter who. Monopoly power is always a bad idea.
Or Pichai (Google) or Bezos
Nobody wants ur data anyway 😂
@@redwhite_040 wechat is closed to a monopoly in instant messaging but not in other things.
I'd trust Musk over Zuckerberg. But I would not submit health information to Musk, I forsee a dystopia where he or someone else will use your health information to see if you are a candidate for deep space travel.
I wouldn’t trust the tech bros even if they did create a super app
he said as he comments on youtube...
It doesn't matter. It will creep up on you just like the necessity of having a smart phone in 2024. Without a smart phone you can't do anything. Apply for jobs, get an email address. They will slowly lower the no ose around your neck until its too late
super app for super egos
You wouldn't trust a tech bro the same way you wouldn't trust a government the same way you wouldn't trust a stranger. That's what makes you western
@@jelaniward3418preach. We adapt to things and don’t even know it
Actually, Americans don't have an idea of what a "super app" like wechat is. Wechat doesn't develop all the services by itself or own those services, but provide a platform that all the other apps can join it and integrate their services into Wechat as "mini apps". It's more convinient to use mutiple services in Wechat than opening and switching them from dozens of individual apps. Wechat or Alipay are acting like a sub-operating-system that run on Android or iOS.
It always seemed to me like an unnecessary extra step for a consumer. I can see the appeal of it from a business' point of view; You want to advertise, see browsing/clicking habits, purchase history, etc. Then just make the OS like Apple & Google does. Even Amazon does it with its Fire TV, tablets & Kindle lines.
Maybe a person who's too lazy to input their card purcbase information for different vendors everytime might like it but Apple, PayPal, CashApp, Venmo, Amazon Pay, Samsung Pay, Google Wallet, etc have found ways to deal with it.
Supplement: mini APPs uses h5 technology, and China people will only regard it as a substitute for low-frequency temporary scenes, such as ordering food in restaurants, renting bike-sharing, library services, light casual games, etc. If a certain function is to be used heavily, China people will still download an independent app.
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Your “average” American won’t know but a big chunk does know what it is.
@@ApocalymonAn os from scratch is probably not worth the cost of creating super apps for these companies.
We dont want a monopoly.
But you’re using google.
Sadly, "we" do. Apple users use everything through Apple and [heavy] Google users will do the same. If Apple released something like this, most apple users will use it.
Also, it isn't a monopoly. They don't have to own the items they link to. If Apple launched this, Apple would just link to the doctors. They wouldn't own the doctors, even though they'd be getting paid from it in some way like the advertisements or such.
Google would beg to differ (RUclips, Google, Maps, etc)
Amazon would also beg to differ (AWS, Amazon Data Services)
US car manufacturers all lobbying government to ban foreign competition would beg to differ
Companies should to strive to innovate and by putting yourself in a superapp ecosystem you become fundamentally bound by the rules of the platform owner. In which case the owner can enact measures to reduce the competitiveness of these smaller app developers.
Apple already does this, we don't want another company to do the same but on an even larger scale
i got news for u, many tech companies are monopolies
The title should be "Why US experts struggle to understand everything in China"
Cuz it's written in Chinese?
we dont wanna be like them
@@jaehparrk doing a grear job of it
@@jaehparrk yet the US keeps trying so hard to be like them in terms of innovation
Innovation? More like stealing and making cheap imitations.
CNBC delete my comment that Wechat might be a super app but it's not the most popular in most areas 1.Leader in short videos Douyin (TikTok) 2. Leader in e-commerce (Alibaba and Temu) 3.Leader in streaming (iQiyi, Tencent Video) 4.Leader in food delivery Meituan 5. Leader in Car hailing Didi, 6.Leader in Search Baidu, the App environment is very vibrant in China not just wechat which only dominate chat and payment
True but 3/4 of those apps Tencent invested in….which owns WECHAT
@@LKH98 no that's not true, Alibaba, Baidu and Byte Dance are huge rivals to Tecent, Tecent does have minority stake in Meituan and PDD, but it far from a monopoly, in fact Byte Dance's revenue surpass Tencent for the first time last year.
@@LKH98 No that's no true, Alibaba, Baidu and Bytedance are huge rivals to Tencent, in fact Bytedance revenue has surpassed Tencent's so while Tencent is huge it's far from a monopoly.
No that's no true, Alibaba, Baidu and Bytedance are huge rivals to Tencent, in fact Bytedance revenue has surpassed Tencent's so it's far from a monopoly. My comment keeps getting deleted lmao
@@seancai1049your comment isnt being deleted. Wechat is the most important app in China.
Nobody wants a super app. The Facebook app is already one, which is why it wastes over 1GB of your storage space
@@Powerofthepickle And a lot of people are trying to get away from it!
Facebook is already excessively intrusive. It constantly wants more than I'm willing to share. I'd love to get away from it, sadly it is the only semi-reliable way I have to keep in contact with some people I really do know as friends separated by hundreds, thousands of miles perhaps across borders.
@PamelaCurry Same. I'd leave immediately if it were not for those people. 😑
well it is the google and apple app stores that are the super apps ?
Skill issue. Wechat isn't nearly as bloated as Facebook but still has 10x more useful functions.
Also, we don't want one company knowing everything about us.
What is there worth knowing about you or me?
Yeah, it's a surveillance tool to us Chinese.
They will collecting your browser search history 😂
@@KayyHong No,about him only cuz he did something shady.
@@KayyHong until someone uses your info to try to scam you
we don’t want a super app
who asked you
what would you do if when you okay so he said yes would go?
because you just have not one.
@@sp8871 Ask me, I'm Chinese. We hate Wechat.
Real
We already have that super app, it’s an operating system.
enjoy being backwards
Adding functions to app is easy, the hard thing is to have everyone using your app. The most "super" thing about WeChat is that every Chinese is using it.
Yes, THANKYOU .. wechat is a rubbish app, but cultural conformity is high, and there are no protections for competition or consumers..So the first app to market will never be overthrown.
i see no purpose in a superapp. Basically, something like the iOS ecosystem, or the google ecosystem is essentially a superapp. You still have to click different things to get into each function in a superapp - it isn't much different than just a different app in the same ecosystem. All you need is for the ecosystems to communicate better with each other. iOS apps already all communicate well with each other - just make some additional improvements where needed. If payment is the issue, apple pay or google pay is already like an underlying payment system. If a login is the issue - the apple ID for iOS, or google account for any google app already integrates everything.
It seems that you don't know much about China's super apps. There are thousands of restaurants, bars, hotels, and grocery stores, and it is impossible for them to develop an app. They can provide business services by connecting to super apps and making a few simple pages themselves. The cost is very low, and customers don't need to install an app that they may only use once. This is an important reason why almost all industries in Chinese society are highly digitized.
@@rosebomb9251 A superapp is just a package that contains multiple apps within it. Each function is an app. Each tab is an app. That is how software works. Do you think the Wechat software, which originally handled only chats, can handle maps, payment, and restaurants, without new modules/code added to the program? Each piece of new code is an app. The difference is merely how you package and "name" it. In a superapp, you automatically have all these sub-apps installed - same as iOS - all of apple's main apps are preinstalled. If Apple prevented you from deleting any of those apps, and wrapped it all up under a single icon on your phone that you open and then press a sub-button within the app to access, you would call it a superapp.
@@rosebomb9251stores and customers in North America already connect online through Google; PoSs integrate with IoS and Android payment systems. And many restaurants already use apps like Open Table for booking services. Can the process between these apps and services be better streamlined? Yes, but that is already happening. I struggle to see how an expensive (to develop) Super App will make a real difference here.
When i was in China, i only need a cellphone to do anything. Wechat or alipay. We dont need a wallet , credit card or key at all.
wow that sounds really gross. No THANKS!
@@johnjingleheimersmith9259bet you hate EVs and renewable energy too, huh
@ nah, I just don't need my every single purchase and shopping habits being monitored and collected by corporations and a government that wants to control every person like dogs on a leash. But I guess you enjoy being a good puppy for your masters. Who's a good BOY?! Is it YOU?! Is IT?!
Why U.S. Tech Companies Struggle To Replicate China's - Manufacturing, -drones, -evs, energy transition, commercial shipping, mega constructions, high speed rail. the list goes on.
Forget high speed rail, how about low cost rail lol
Some commentators here would say "we don't want all of the above. Sour grape!
Many Americans don't want to get out of their comfort zone.
@@MrBestard Yep reality hurts. Just like some brave Americans have found out about lives in China on Red Note.
@@MrBestard US and eu is good at talking.Then find a bunch of talkers indians work for them. You know what the result will be. At least us is better for introducing global talents.
In China you can do anything as long as there isn't a law against it, the government will regulate it once problems occur. In the US you need permissions to do anything so politicians get lobbying money.
You’re kidding right?
@@MaineSWHHe is very correct
@@MaineSWH influence bots are going crazy in these comments
China has stricter laws than the US does so that's absolutely not true.
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If you try to be good at everything you’ll be good at nothing. Literally no one wants this
no one whos grown up in america where
WeChat users beg to differ. People hate what they don't have, out of envy?
@@KayyHongWeChat users don’t have a choice lol
Wechat is the best app on earth. too bad americas cant have superior products like china
no one = 1.3 billion people
It's not a monopoly because wechat is just hosting those "mini apps", not owning. And it is strictly oversaw by a government that have the citizen's best interest in mind, not corporations and billionaires.
But i can see why Americans are trying to falsely spin this into an excuse for monopoly so that they can practise it that way when they do it.
"the citizen's best interest in mind" gurrrrrl, I laughed harder than I have in a long time. But what greater comedy can there be from a culture that celebrates a man like Mao that starved, imprisoned, and eliminated more Chinese citizens than any World War. It must be such a great power to control the thoughts and minds of an entire nation of over 1Bil through one single app. Our corporations and billionaires in the West can only dream of that.
No thank you.....I don't want one app that controls my whole life
You want many apps that control your entire life huh
it's called a cellphone. lol. it's the same thing, except the navigation is through 1 app, or through a cellphone. Imagine the difference between finding the right area to get to a specific function within 1 app vs finding the right app for a specific function. kettle and pot, different, but very similar in functionality.
@@SifisoMoabj At least, many apps will not cease my whole life if one fails
@@SifisoMoabj Are you making the argument that diversification is worse for the consumer than the consolidation of all our services under one tech company?
Like it or not, Google controls you
This report seems very biased as it does not sufficiently address its history and downsides. The adoption of a super app was also presented as desirable and the opposing arguments were glossed over as hurdles to overcome. Super apps appeared when one company was able to dominate a market, providing billing, accounts and communication to its participants. Log in with x and pay with y eliminate this need in the west. A super app is just a bad second layer OS.
P.S. A company having multiple apps does not make it a super app. Google search, mail, maps, docs and RUclips show how it can be done right.
This
Seriously. This video seems like something coming out of Davos. "You'll only have ONE app and you'll like it!" (because they don't want you to have a choice)
You forgot to add google pay
Yeah, Wechat is bloatware to us Chinese. The causes of monopoly is because it's a government propoganda tool.
I already have a “super app”: my phone.
It takes two movements or less to switch between apps. Each app’s UI is then perfected for what it does, easy to navigate, and not cluttered with multiple functions.
Apple Pay makes payments across all apps seamless already.
And it leaves space for innovation and new entrants to the app ecosystem, since no company can lock in all users with network effects and a so-called “walled garden”.
Consumer golden rule:
Never put all eggs in one basket.
Super apps in the west already exist, they are called browsers.
It's not annoying to have many apps, it's annoying to have apps that could've just been a webpage.
Consumers are dumb and don't understand this. They want "apps".
Fair point!
I'd say, Uber can also be considered a super appp of sorts.
Yeah, Facebook is definitely a super app.
Heck, Discord in some ways is a super app in itself!
@@TrentonMatthews Uber is a good example of too many apps, I don't get it how it is better than a normal taxi.
A few times I was in a place in need of transportation, I have tried ubber, bolt and those scotters, with any of them I found my self needing to download an app on mobile data, then having to create an account, create a virtual credit card, all that while wasting much needed battery and time, and in the end it was more expensive than just calling a taxi, even the e-scotter was more expensive than a safer taxi.
With a taxi I just rise my hand and it stops for me, usually have to wait a bit for one to come by, but in my experience less than the time to setup ubber app, and if I'm far away from busy roads I can just call or text the taxi phone number and ask for one, and I pay with cash or with a normal debit card swipe.
And the second time I needed a ride, there where no Ubers in the area but there were Bolts, so I had to install another app and go through all the installation process, and in all this I had to agree to terms that I didn't read and I bet I don't agree with them, which I hate.
Normal taxis are fine for me, they are regulated, and I don't have to give my all life and details away just to use a service.
Edit: And then there is another hassle of having to send emails to close the accounts and delete all my data (I don't even know if they actually deleted it, I can only trust that they followed GDPR), there where no simple "delete my account" button in the app.
The notion of a super app is a slight misnomer.
While the likes of WeChat/Weixin can do payments, messaging - a lot of the functionality are provided by other companies (e.g. Didi for taxi). You're replacing multiple apps with one app that hosts many mini apps within it (kinda like an operating system within your operating system) - but it can track your activity very effectively - that is the most concerning part.
It’s pretty simple, we don’t want a super app that’ll increase monopoly practices by big tech
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Eventually someone will invent an app that breathes for us, and we don't even need to do anything 😂
Nah our phones are already super apps. Don’t want one company to have access to all of my data. And the tech bros are just a bunch of fascists so there is no way I’m going to give them access to everything.
@@markvanlieshout3486 Exactly.
lol so you want a bunch of different companies to have access to your data. sorry to tell you that thousands of companies have your data because it's totally legal to buy and sell. but in china it's not
Sorry to break it to you: they already have all of your data. For years now. Remember Snowden?
Well it's either one company has all of your data or hundreds have you data... hmm... I think underexposure is safer no?
@ sure they have loads of data but it’s not all connected. RUclips for example may know what I like to watch but they don’t know if I make an appointment with my doctor. Or what bank I use. If it’s just one app all that information is in one place.
Like the video stated, in America were never going to have just one app that does everything, we’re gonna have a combination of maybe three or four apps that does everything
Super App is not necessary equivalent to a Super company. It could be the idea of integrating many apps at the user interface level. Under the hood, it still interacts with independent entities.
Supplement: mini APPs uses h5 technology, and China people will only regard it as a substitute for low-frequency temporary scenes, such as ordering food in restaurants, renting bike-sharing, library services, light casual games, etc. If a certain function is to be used heavily, China people will still download an independent app.
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NO! Simply, no. Such a terrible idea for security and privacy.
What an ignorant idiot you are! Do you really think you have more security and privacy when you use all of those different apps?😂😂😂
Naive, you still believe you have privacy as long as you are using internet, your digital footprint is everywhere.
Terrible idea for privacy, but WeChat actually fine for security for most Chinese users (I.e, those without any problems with the government) as all users that use payment services are required to be real name registered, and authenticated through the Government’s ID register.
@@Jason-wp2nq 'as all users that use payment services are required to be real name registered, and authenticated through the Government’s ID register.' you act like you don't need this in the west to open the bank account lol. Stop being paranoid.
We call it a browser
We already have 2 Super Apps. Android and iOS, what is the point of creating another OS inside the existing OS?
A superapp can become quite cumbersome and confusing and directionless if its made by a single party.
Individual features would not receive the same level of detailed development to improve in the future.
I read a comment saying that wechat just allows other apps to act as mini-apps on there. If thats the case, then it is somewhat better for the individual apps.
However, the future is NOT superapps, but an AI that is able to connect all apps and services together.
So technically i think it matters less if an apps joins every service imaginable since your smartphone is already a "superapp" and being able to access everything with Ai without having to do it manually is the more effective path to the future.
You mean a web browser?
The idea of apps was to have standalones, so we're going back. Opera has speed dials on its homepage so I can put the pizza hut order webpage, the amazon website, etc all on one homepage.
Try the Vivaldi browser. Norwegian. The team who developed Opera before China bought it.
Why would I want 1 app for everything? That just feels like a nightmare to navigate. The point of apps is so you can use a different one for a specialized need you have.
In the west it's best not to have a super app. It doesn't foster competition and instead can and will be used a form of control just like in China and other countries.
The ability to use other apps or have the choice of other apps is freedom.
wechat is a super app but it only dominate in chat and payment everything else there is a better more popular app than wechat
Exactly 💯
form of control? totally wrong.
At the same time it’s annoying when you need to download a new app for every little thing in the US. I think some apps definitely should be combined into a common interface. Like paying for parking, it’s always dumb when I need to download a new app or make a new account to pay for parking.
You don’t understand anything 🤣
I feel that the "experts" are missing an important aspect of why something like WeChat was able to grow the way it has. There was no real competition. We already have all these platforms that are already big. There is no real unique selling point to switch to something else.
There was tons of competition, there is still a lot of competition. If anything, there is more competition in China then in rest of the world, they are communist in name and some aspects, but majority of their market is wild west style capitalism.
Before they become super, the apps was fighting aggrsively with other competition
The issue with super app is that the threat of having our personal data stolen all at once much easier, let alone the anti-monopoly laws in the United States is making such notion improbable
The only reason super apps work in China is that they don't have the apple app store or Google play on top of a standard OS. Each retailer loads their own custom OS on the phone, so there is no standardization. A super app is basically that standard platform for developers to create apps/web links on top of.
You can use a browser on a mobile without installing most service apps. Yes, it's not as seamless because it's harder to gather unrelated data about the costumer.
it’s simple, trust. people in us wont offer all in daily life to an app owned by either a company or an authority.
A Super App? You mean an Operating System?😂
American : we don't want monopoly
You are using Google or apple product.
I live in China, where super apps are the norm. It’s incredibly convenient to access multiple mini-apps within a single super app. I haven’t used cash or paid with a credit card in the past seven years.
But no one likes a meta super app
Same here. Love WeChat and Alipay
As a Chinese, Wechat is just a bloatware that takes up tens of GBs of storage. It's monopoly is granted by the government because it's also a propaganda tool.
As a Chinese, I can tell you behind the monopoly is government control. And lack of competition makes Wechat a bloatware that takes up dozens of GBs with running so slow.
As a Chinese, Wechat is a bloatware and government propoganda tool.
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Listening a few minutes, None of interviewees really understand the reason Wechat become successful in Super Apps. Questions, does those Giant want to give up years of profit to solicit partners to move in? Does the Apps offers foolproof solutions to small businesses which help to Wechat to cornerstone the massive ecosystem and given they don't even know programming? No. Then no way it would come to US.
Isn’t iOS and Android already the “SuperApp”?
Super app is basically iOS or android😂
logically yes. But the experience of super app like WeChat is that there is no downloading installing and register at all for all applications. The super app just takes care of everything (like account register, identify verify, preference like language and region, etc) even though it’s the first time you’ve ever use a new application on this super app.
A super App is bad because if that App is hacked you lose all your information. Literally everything, your health, payment systems, how you spend your money, fingerprints, health work etc.
There will never be a time where I would want to go just to one place as a one stop shop. I want options.
Actually, it's easier to do everything in one place. Imagine one stop shop store to do all your shopping.
@@Johnwicker1903 And look at the quality of the items and service at Walmart compared to a specialty shop where people who know what they're doing run the place.
@@Johnwicker1903 I don't want to do my shopping at one store. That's how you get screwed over on pricing. I price shop between loads of different stores for the best price. Sometimes I'm willing to even pay more if a store offers a better experience. I have no interest in getting everything from one place.
@cawheeler27 Actually, it's mutiple sellers under one app. Its what amazon already does. Now imagine chat, shop, doctor, uber, Airbnb, reddit. All in one.
As a user and worker in tech, I’d prefer a fragmented market rather than 1 or 2 tech giants with super apps.
Loved alipay and wechat when I lived in china but I don’t see it working in the western world
Might be nice and concerning at same time to have your dating and medical history being shared within one database 😂
Nope . No one isn’t tired of using many apps
All those saying data privacy and monopoly concerns; trust me, as tech becomes more and more integrated with your daily life in the future, you'll just forget about those things because they'll become so commonplace that they won't even matter. Instead, you'll come to value efficiency in life more and more, become lazier, and will just want to live as efficiently as the next person. I mean, you already have a smartphone with apps that have your data, you're signed-in to RUclips right now with an IP address that pinpoints to your location, and you probably have some *private* photos uploaded to the cloud. Did those privacy concerns stop you from using these services? Nope. Because the joy and convenience outweigh all other concerns, and everyone else is doing it.
I'm really over every single company I interact with wanting me to download their app
Super app aside, it's still so irritating that FB had to have a whole other app just for the simple messaging function. That idea was and is still so ridiculous, even more so given today's tech advancements. Talk about making life harder and less convenient for your users... absolutely laughable
It’s called individualism over uniformity.
woah you use 4 apps instead of 1? you are such an individual with an outstanding personality.
convenience and interconnectivity. if you never try you won't understand.
Your individualism of using facebook, instagram, tiktok, youtube, X just like millions of other Americans.b😂
@@MacrosFTW if you hate musk, you can stop using X. if you have the CCP, good luck avoid using wechat.
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What happened to China copying the US?
Uni reverse card played very well.
Other way round b now
I would never use an app like this. No way
There's no way I would use a super app in the US. Never!
Why not?
who asked you
This video. @@sp8871
There are no absolutes
Thanks for telling us a modern day monopoly would benefit us. Monopolies are just always so fun and have always been beneficial to the people of America!
Nothing could go wrong!
Most us industries are monopolies now so what’s different.
@JohnJones-k9d its better to each industry to have its own monopoly than to have single monopoly controlling every industry that exist.
@JohnJones-k9d Technically they aren't. If they were they would be illegal and then the government would have to get involved.
I would love to have a super app here in the US, the problem is that I trust the Chinese government more than I would ever trust Musk or Zuk
I trust the govt more too. they have to answer to 1B people and is under harsh scrutiny. not the same with private entities
another interesting thing about internet in china is everyone has to use their real names. I realise this clearly isn’t for everyone, but imagine an internet where you remove anonymity. you will have far less crime and verbal abuse .. etc
it’s interesting how that’s playing out in china. I’m curious myself
Trust me. As a Chinese, you don't want to trust our government.
i will just ask, what interaction you ever had with them to decide to trust them?
The Chinese apps don't even have anything to do with the Chinese government. They are all private companies. But yes, I will readily acknowledge there is a cultural difference. Chinese billionaires/oligarchs are still more humble and more in tune with public sentiments than American billionaires/oligarchs. There is recency bias: the Chinese billionaire/oligarch still remembers recent revolutions and understands what happens when an uppity ruling elite becomes too out of touch with common people. The American billionaire/oligarch haven't had to worry about being overthrown in over a century. The last time they felt frightened enough to concede to workers' demands was when the USSR existed, and that was incidentally the Golden Age of the Western working class/middle class, who got to live in relative dignity, protected by some semblance of comprehensive social welfare, which is mostly gone now.
I think a big reason why we don't have a super app here in the US is because we have full-suite of services from multiple providers like Google, Apple and Samsung. China doesn't have these (Google services in particular) which is what caused a vacuum that made local super-apps thrive.
你的认知显示出你被美国和西方媒体洗脑成傻子，实际上微信只是在聊天应用上占据主导，支付上有支付宝，至于在线购物和其他微信也没涉及。微信成为超级应用的原因很简单：独一无二的框架使得开发人员很简单就可以创建可靠的应用。事实上阿里巴巴旗下的淘宝也是超级应用。微信只是在人员联系上占据优势。仅此而已，你不会以为中国就微信一个app吧。你真的被西方媒体毒害成不具备正常逻辑思维能力的傻子了！
Just so let you know google pay, apple pay are still not as popular as WeChat pay. :b:
China has Apple and Samsung too you know, with the full suite of services, and they have Baidu(Chinese equivalent of Google, which has its own suite of services). Americans can't comprehend WeChat because you don't have anything like it, because these ones that you mention don't come anywhere close to WeChat in overall functionality.
微信支付宝二维码电子支付之所以能够比苹果支付推广开来是因为成本低，不需要额外的接收设备
然后就是在电子支付的基础上接通各种应用程序
Uber couldn’t even beat Grab lol
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This is dumb. The "super app" you are describing is called iOS or Android. If you think the OS is a super app and can do all the things, it is and can.
Definitely not the same thing.
Lolll literally thought the same 🤣
OR Windows, macOS and Linux for those of us who prefer PCs over mobile.
App and OS are two completely different things.
People calling an operating system a “super app” is exactly why the US is behind on so many tech products 🙄
China and the US are two very different countries with very different consumer tastes and online cultures. It's hopeless to try to compare them. US consumers still pay by cash and card, even cheques are used regularly. Many people in China have never even seen a cheque. Payment is overwhelmingly done by scanning QR codes, even for street vendors. As for super-apps, I suspect one reason might be the language. A Chinese character packs a lot more information than an English letter. Chinese words are typically only 2 characters. You can fit a lot more information on a screen in Chinese than you can in English. Therefore an screen layout that looks good in Chinese just wouldn't work in English.
It's possible this video's tone is intended to subtly influence our opinions. China and the U.S. are different; I haven't heard of many Americans moving to China for its advantages, unlike the reverse. This appears to be a sponsored video, and we value our independence. Why should a single company have such influence over our lives? This isn't China.
It's not that Americans don't like moving to China. It's just that China or most of Asia is not immigration friendly. You need to be highly skilled and have very good Chinese language skills to go there. Even then it's a 50-50 that you get PR. And if you think about why Chinese students go abroad, most of them go to get international experience. Unlike in the past 70-80% of students go back after getting 2-5 years of experience abroad. Only few stay back. Also it's China is very competitive with 1.4 billion people, even if just 1% migrates abroad, it's 140,000 people. So situation is more nuanced than you think
WeChat is like a platform more than a app. It doesn't provide all kinds of services but has a bunch of various APIs for many tenants to host their own services.
Meanwhile, we can’t even agree on a single streaming application and now we are dreaming about a super app.
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This was just a skit by College Humor years ago lmao
there's absolutely no way americans will want that considering the deep mistrust on any single tech company
The super app in China has been around for at least 10 years already 😂
It makes it easier for China to collect and store all your data
China is much superior to America!
@ Goog knows more about you than you know about yourself. Don’t be so naive.
@@JayRoberts244 it is just googles app store ran by china basically?
Jay, they already do that with Facebook, Google, Apple, etc. They don't need some "super app"
One of the big concern you aren't considering is the software development side. It would be such a challenge to get everything working in one super app. As well as a development nightmare to manage it all as well. To manage 1 code base for at least the mobile app would be crazy. Also, not to mention, we basically have multiple "super-apps". 1 - you have your phone itself and its OS where you can download apps and would take on average the same amount of hand movements to navigate it. 2 - Tied to the first one there already super apps through basically tech companies ecosystems i.e. Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc. The only difference is they have separate apps, but they share the same account system that shares your data throughout different apps. 3. There is an app called a browser where you have access to the whole internet which contains web apps etc. One last final point the closest thing we have to a super app is Google, you have android, Google website and app ecosystem, and Chrome.
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I mean the super app everyone will use will be the super intelligent assistant that just uses the right apps for you
Who needs WeChat? Why imitate China at all?
Yeah! We do not need to copy China!
Because they do it better. Super apps are more convenient for users.
@@se7enzee444
Also super convenient for the government
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We are in China now. Our government is the enemy not China. Use Rednote and never use anything billionaires make again. Eat the rich.
WeChat has a big brother that kicks all it's competitors 😂😂
I dont mind a super app for all the video streaming platforms that will allow us to use one platform to watch all the content we want to watch.
That wouldn't be a super app, just a bigger streaming service. A super app would try to do more. Think of Netflix games and other unrelated random stuff.
Piracy has become easier than the legal route, what you describe is what all media pirates use to watch their content.
Apple tried something like this with the AppleTV box. The TV app on the AppleTV can aggregate from across your streaming services and provide access to their content in a single app. The issue is that the streaming services have to share access with the TV app. Some do, like Max, but a lot don't. For example, Netflix has made clear it has no interest in sharing access with Apple or any other company. They want you in their app so they can control the experience.
When i say Hell, you say NO. HELL...
I would never trust my banking derails with Twitter/elon musk.
The US following Chinese models these days!
you mean monopoly?
everyone can build super app. anyone can be successful building one. everyone can choose which super app to use. it is not monopoly.
That's antithetical to the point of a super app. A super app is only a super app if it's they have a monopoly on users. It's better named a monopolized app but monopolies are illegal so they don't want to call it that. Why would you use an app with both shopping and chatting if only one or two of your friends use it, and they're on other platforms, and it only has a small number of the things you buy? @@BunnyTheresa
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They have a super app, because they had no other options, because i guess They didn't want this neither.
Guessing and false assumption is not factual.
Chinese in China love the super app. It's easy and fast. Save time and stress. China is living in 2050. Go to China and see for yourself. My family and friends did just now.
@@KayyHong This is actually the case. Most foreign competitors weren't allowed in the country and the Chinese government incentivized WeChat to dominate because it was easier for the government spy on the population if they all used the same app.
They also have AliPay, which is another super app providing equivalent functionalities. Consumers can choose their preferred super app, so do vendors.
You're right, short videos will make old people and children addicted, and subconsciously change your mind! Super application is not good either. If it is a capital company, it will monopolize everything in your life!
In China, Tencent is at the mercy of the government, the equivalent of a monitoring software.
WeChat can lend money in China, and then it can give you social scores through software. As long as you have residual value, he will drain you dry!
Super apps are more conducive to the "rich and powerful" harvest wealth! Control which stupid people.
isnt the whole point of the cell phone is having an all in one platform that you can use all your tools in?
The US needs 65square more and more
I subbed to them. Thnx. It's amazing and it's run by a nonprofit
whats 65square
wow
@@imanvellani7567 "world's healthiest socials" is how it's advertised and it looks like a 3D video game
Didn't we already have websites that used a web browser? That was a single app going to multiple services just like we're going back to now apparently
This is an absolutely terrible idea 🤦♂️ and completely unamerican / undemocratic. This will be the fastest way to be controlled by an all powerful oligarchy. If people in this company think this is ok then we have clearly lost our values and already failed as a country 😔
It's exactly what rhey want. People who value their freedom should be scared, not just worried.
brother, we already are.
Dude you already have all your info on Apple or Samsung, so technically one company already owns all your data, even if you use 500+ apps
Issue is most Americans don't actually want freedom @TuMalditaMadre
Agree 100%. A super app would require that one company take over everything. That is normal in terrible countries (communist, totalitarian, etc) where people don't get choice and have no freedom or privacy. But it is a bad thing that the West should avoid at apl cost. Bluntly I'd rather have zero apps (do without) than one super app.
Remember many US citizens still use sms now.
Travelled end of last year. Needed a ride from an airport - checked Uber, price was egregious, esp. taking into account local incomes. Checked a local alternative - half the price...
The “Super App” is just the phone we use, 😂 we have become so “ambitious”
no thank you, nobody wants a monopoly, which is exactly what these super apps are.
How do you fail safe against the entire thing? This seems like an easy way for hackers to have a One-Stop shop to all of our data.