Top 5 things that make ZERO sense in Honkai: Star Rail...
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hi guys, today i list down 5 things that made no sense to me as i played the game. It is my opinion, it might be totally wrong. Comment down below what you think and what other vids you'd like to see :D (i do videos based on comments im a nolife).
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:10 Im not jesus
0:19 The Best set in the game
2:00 Aggro is not real
2:59 The paths are cosmetics
3:57 Some characters' kit is funny
5:47 Some characters' trace is funny
6:54 Honorable mentions
7:28 Im not jesus again
7:35 Outro
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Clara:has higher aggro value. has skill and buff that makes her more likely to be attacked. Has the most slapable face. Literally a counter attack character made to be attacked.
Enemy:*looks at tingyun*
Enemy: “I like ya cut G”
Shes already dead 😭😭
Woah there chill, she doesn't have a slappable face. I know you wanna hit her but calm down
Basically like that one time I went MoC on my alt
My Clara has:
>Aggro increase from ult
>Aggro increase from March skill
>Aggro increase from Lynx
>The enemies STILL target Tingyun more
your enemies targeting tingyun? HOW?
I'm legit 99% convinced Tingyun has Destruction level taunt value. She gets hit as often as my Dan Heng IL or even my Jingliu when I use her with them.
The way I understand it (unless I'm completely wrong) is that Jingyuan's Lightning Lord is more of a manifestation of power than an autonomous entity, which is why it can't act while Jingyuan is stunned. Numby IS an autonomous entity, with its own personality, and therefore can act on its own, and why they're called Topaz AND Numby.
Iirc lightning lord in lore is essentially a gift to jy from the reignbow arbiter (Lan) so it is an extension of himself/his powers
cope players using lore to excuse shit design
@@seb3661Won’t deny it’s bad design, but at the same time it wouldn’t make sense for LL to attack while Jing Yuan is stunned since Jing Yuan should be the one controlling it
Oh btw adding onto this LL seems to be the gift from Lan to all generals on the luofu so it's more of like a hunt emanator blessing not just something that manifested (although jy for some reason isn't a hunt emanator despite being like among the top 5 most skilled warriors currently alive in the alliance) in jy due to Lan or smth
So technically speaking since it's a power that's succeeded from generation to generation it should grow less and less personal to each general and prolly still have the ability to act separately from the general when needed but it don't seem to work that way
So ig it's just tied to his spirit and path and personal to him for some reason...
@@seb3661i think the one coping is you, blud 😅
The destruction path is THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE of having great survivability
There is always a price to pay, whatever it can be
Blade is the gold of destruction, soon we will get Sam, he is also has hp regen.
@@SlL222 clara is 2nd best destruction because she fits the deccription
True DHIL is squishy as hell but a destruction path 💀
Well, the goal was to make a bruiser class, which Blade and Clara do very well. And since Daniel IL was added, it's just big blast damage numbers
@@ashrafhakim379He is imposter of destruction path 😩, especially his kit kinda like hunt character
Celestial Diffrentiator is indeed completely useless. Herta really cant let us have a break in simulated universe 💀
I bet herta added that as purely a RNG factor to farming planar sets 😭
me who has it on my seele: yeaaa lol
@@LittleMissZackyVeeyo seele eating McDonald's burgers instead of popeyes
@@LittleMissZackyVee 😅
it works for me so lol@@ec2552
Clara and Blade are what my idea of a "destruction" character should be. the limited Erudition characters and hunt characters are for the most part what they are told to be and do that job pretty well. now the question is... WHAT THE FUCK IS JINGLIU AND DHIL ??? i swear they are the definition of "lore accurate strength" lmao.
They're the type of who lean in Strength over survivability, But they do have some Defence, Like my jingliu having 4500 hp 🙂
And my IL having 40% effect res 🙂
If you look closely at the "subscribe for more" light cone there is sushang being crushed at the bottom so basically this is her alternative signature(a term I came up with and almost every character has one).
You should fight moc using the ghost hunters team from the recent 1.5 event (Mc, Guinaifen, Sushang, and Huohuo)
I wanna see a world tour of that team fr. MOC, Swarm disaster, and weekly bosses
We purging Argenti with ghost guns fr 💀
You can actually get an achievement for rocking that team, nice little detail as it refers to Ghostbusters 😂
I think celestial differentiator was made for yanqing or any character that increases their cr and have low cr to start. So for the first initial hit they do they can benefit from the added cr until they can buff themselves up for the rest of the fight.
Basically still useless because no one uses yanqing 💀
Makes sense
Destruction does have great survivability. If the enemies are dead, no one's gonna threaten your survival.
I'm.more.concerend about the fact that half of the erudition characters have abilities that don't target every enemy and instead do blast attacks(Serval, Himako, QQ)
LOL it make sense now, destroying the enemies so we dont get to die 😌✊But true though erudition like Serval doing blasts is pretty weird haha
The only thing destruction has about "survivability" Is just the bonus res from the trace
Nihility characters doing a better job than erudition by having blast and aoe kit (Guinaifen, Kafka, Welt)
Dude I swear QQ is a destruction character and not erudition
It's to create different set ups. Himeko is designed around breaking to charage follow up, Serval does bonus atks to shocked enemies (so it's kinda to keep her under control as a gen 1 4 star), and QQ... is QQ.
1:53 Ok but here me out. Bronya’s Cramage support scales off her own Cramage. This set is good since it gives her 16% for free thus making her support stronger. And she does have guaranteed crit normals from her traces so the differentiator set is basically useless
broken keel gives perma 10 cdmg to the party and she already has eff res in her traces, her buff would only give 3% more off celestial and only during ult uptime
Broken kneel do better just abit less cdmg but
- effect res
- global cdmg buff
Compare to that set which only effect her ult
So like what you said, it's useless but like ENTIRELY since broken kneel came out
That set was only useable at the beginning of the games spawn for support Bronya. After Broken Keel was released, it lost any value it had lol. The only scenario this set could be useable is for the zero cycle runs. And even then it's hard to utilize
Yep i think that will be the only use for the set XD But then again broken keel might just still be better heh
No this is obviously a set for Jingliu. She gets 60% crit rate bonus for her first attack and then she gives gerself 50% crit rate! (JK still useless).
3:09 from what I know, destruction tend to kill EVERYthing (including themselves)
This means both sides dies
Eat their own team or eat all SP at once or eat their own HP.
For jing yuan I would say that the lightning lord has to be summon (from what I understand story wise) to whereas numby is a "separate entity" from topaz ( idk just a theory)
Jinyuan could be fixed with : when LL gains 10 stacks it gets to attack immediately.
What doesnt make sense is that Bronya didnt became an Emanator of Nihility yet based on her Story Arc.
Wait if i'm not mistaken she doesn't have one yet?
**yet**
Wait which one, i don't understand
What’s that
@@israyantidien4287 "I used the most depressed team in Honkai Star Rail"
Yanqing is part of the top 1% strongest people of the luofu possibly the entire xianzhou alliance but we haven't seen the other ships his only problem is that he exclusively fights the top 0.1% strongest people he doesn't stand a chance against but I'll give him one thing he tries at least he truly does his best and we know he's probably going to be general one day maybe after fu xuan
Well tbf Topaz and Numby are two different entities, Jung Yuan has to control lightning lord himself from what we see in cutscenes, so it makes sense for lightning lord to not be able to attack if Jing Yuan is stunned
Some techniques break on entry, so maybe for farming where you're guaranteed instant kill everything on opening hit.
The lightning lord is a spirit conjured but Jing. Numby is an independent entity so there is no issue.
Still in "Subscribe for more" lightcone, you can see Sushang underneath the stone plate, so it kinda makes sense? (7:00)
I did think of that, but there is a 4* LC swordplay, which features Sushang entirely, so it kinda makes more sense for the other one to be Guinaifen's signature xd
I think the reason why lighting lord cant attack if jing yuan is stun or something while numby can is that jing yuan summon lightning lord and numby is a different living being than topaz
this is good video but im excited about that 1.6 is almost coming out, and i hope i get Ruan Mei! wish me luck! and Happy Holiday Everyone!
alphabeta965 has given us the christmas blessing 😌✊
I have celestial differentiator set on my Seele only because I have pieces with really good substat rolls. However, besides giving crit damage, it can be useful for her first ultie attack (if she has enough energy) to activate Herta's shop light cone effect
the way I looked at that one Yanqing Trace that boost Effect Res was hoyo saying to build him with the effect res Orb and Rope set, and I'm inclined to agree. My Bronya and the rest of the team love their little support Yanqing, he may get bullied in that team too but he's supporting, just like how he supports the general
I feel like the celestial set was meant for Characters like yang jing or maybe jingliu, that buff their crit rate with their skill or similar. With celestial they gain CDmg to use with that Rate as well as crit rate for their first turn,where their buff isn't up yet.
But yes balancing wise it is a bit weak,as sets like the one with CRate and skill/basic damage provides similar damage buff that also applies on non crit hits.
Even for jingliu it suvk. Jingliu need to be on transcend state to deal ton of dmg and missing 20% elemental skill dmg bonus from rutilant is quite a bad idea. Guess it artifact purely for farming daily creep on map. Wher u one shot them in one turn. Using technique SW, this artifact on himeko proc on follow up then enemy low 50% herta followup.
Sometimes it feels like Celestial Differentiator is a set tailored to Yanqing, to give him the extra CR he'll need to crit in the first attack while he doesn't have Soulsync active, same reason why his signature LC has the same weird mechanic.
But it's still not a good enough excuse to make it that bad, also 120% CD is SO high to reach if you're not running a CD body most times so having such a trashy CR increase is just plain dumb.
I use the planar crit buff set for my Danheng and it works surprisingly well
This video was much needed… thank you
Perhaps Celestial Differentiator would work on Yanqing? After all, his soul-steel buff needs a turn to become active, and you don't need much (if any) crit rate on him because of his self buffs. Probably not worth it because of some other sets (I haven't really looked into it, so idk), but that would be one use for it
In 2:34 Man... That moan... THAT MOAN... Damnit, i forget to use my headphones and it's blasting so LOUD my parents hear it... My heart skip a beat for a sec lol
I can't lie, i had the power to remove that sound effect, but i just went and slammed it in, i had evil intentions of perhaps some people's parents hearing it, i am evil 😭
@@GodDoggos nah it's fine bro, just surprised and then get double surprise after my mom enter my room like a cops lol 😂
One thing that don't make sense to me, and maybe this is a thing in genshin, but why do we have credit requirements on top of other material requirements? This counts for leveling characters, ascension, lightcones and traces. As one who want to get multiple characters up and ready, I find it frustrating that I have to split my focus in both farming materials and keep an eye on having enough credits. I much more prefer to use my credits on healing materials, recipes and synthesize materials. Don't know if this is just me.
I can explain the reason for topaz and jing yuan follow ups. Numby it’s numby, it is a living creature that does what’s best for its owner, the lightning lord is a summon that jing yuan does, you can’t summon if you are unconscious or asleep, it requires you to be awake or conscious.
i never even noticed the YQ trace that gives him eff res while soulsync is active😂😂 what the hell is the point of that if hes going to get hit and stunned anyway
Maybe for that one instance of YQ winning swarm from 1 lucky eff resist 😌✊
5:31 Even Lynx a 4* scale their Basic Attack with her own HP%
Can't wait for part 2
i'll assume that if a light cone has two or more people, one of them might have the same path as the lc. just like sushang in 'subscribe for more!' lc.
if you look closely, there's aventurine in 'trend of the universal market' lc. so he might be a preservation
(dance dance dance lc is an exception)
svarog harmony when
2:06 Tingyun the true eon of preservation and Yanqing is its emanator
Single most annoying thing I have encountered is that you have to teleport around to heal your team when farming (if not using an abundance character). When you farm something (with say a Fu Xuan as sustain) then your team will drop hp after every round.
It's really dumb that after like 2-3 rounds I gotta quit out of the menu, teleport to the next space anchor to heal up, teleport back and start the same run again, which is just a tedious and totally unnecessary process.
I feel like after every paid run (paid with trailblazer energy) your team should heal to full hp.
I’m not gonna test it but if we have a unit whose crit dmg fluctuates between the boundary for the celestial differentiator, maybe it refreshes idk
The celestial differentiator is kinda good on JL just for the 1st effect.
Apparently the topaz lightcone picture shows Aventurine as well so it could be his path
The topaz preservation lc actually features aventurine on the right side if you look closely and aventurine will be imaginary preservation character so i dont think its THAT absurd (im coping btw)
7:05 well this LC is for aventurine you can see him in the background
to jingyuan, i think why he's lightning lord won't attack if jingyuan is stun i think it's because he needs to summon it first before he attack. Meanwhile numby is a real living being even if topaz gets stunned he can still attack. (This is what i think)
Regarding Gepard. Try moving around in a set of metal armor and carry around a person sized Guitar case looking metal shield. I'm surprise bro could even move at all.
I use Celestial Differentiator on just Bronya, purely because of the Crit DMG boost. And while I don't have her E4 but in theory it would help with the Follow-up too.
Broken Keel would give your team more crit Damage that Bronya with the differentiator. Unless your broken keel has good crit damage rolls
Actually not.
The difference is minimal (Celestial has 16% while Keel gives 10%) and it boils down to substats at that point.
What makes no sense to me is how it takes salvaging ten whole 5* relics to synthesize just one. Just for the synthesizing RNG to be beyond trash. I wouldn't mind the number if they gave more ways to receive the self-modeling resin just so we could at least cope with a main stat or something.
Really, why did they give us a second crit% set when the one we had is actually ok and the crit DMG is complete garbage?? I really hope they make a better crit DMG set soon.
The only thing that make sense is God doggo updating his video ❤❤❤
The only thing that make sense is swanky dropping a fire comment 😌😌😌
LL is only controlled by him, Numby just wants the money on her own
Natasha can also take out a debuff from an ally through trace
I legit use the celestial diffrentiator on my blade and i have been fine and danty
3:34 but DHIL has huge base HP. The difficulty of dhil's survivability is nowhere as hard as my seele
As for Yanqing's Effect res is there so he cant become affected by anything for ONE TIME, That's the purpose of that thing, you cant just expect the enemies to ignore everyone or dont do a aoe debuff like kafka or something
Nice video, refreshing. You asked for things that makes no sense? There is one that we all choose to forget... Pela's age.
2:36-2:41 made me choke on my own saliva 😂😂😂 it's just comedy gold
1:39 You'll be saying that,
But come rain and snow, you'll be happy those stairs exists, than only a slippery angled walkway.
(I have no clue what rain and snow would equal in HSR,
maybe something that needs to get 1shot on first turn.
Trotter?)
Nice video 😂
And dude did you ever had to babysit a kid they are too fast for the small legs
Wait, but what if you use Celestial Differentiator on Break effect Ruan Mei to kill everyone in simulated universe in one shot more consistantly?
LL is ancient spirit bound to a Jing Yuang(bet you watched Shaman King, what happens to spirit when shaman losing concentration? Yep) , while Numby is his own entity, also we all now warp trotters is far more powerful than we see them to be
the first one is made for that first turn for yanqing
My counter to the topaz argument is that Numby is a living being and LL is Jing Yuan’s Summon
Hunt: big single numbers
Erudition: many small numbers
Nihidity: debuf
Harmony: buff
Abundance: negative attack
Prevention: wall
Destruction: the ability to hit multiple targets or just one with extremely big numbers along with being able to heal themselves or kill themselves but also can kill the self’s while healing themselves or also killing every team mate you have or
Lore accurate bailu right here 😂 (5:16)
Ya like even the character paths are mixed up like destruction which does hunt and erudition job
Preservation doing abundance job too plus now a harmony gonna do dmg off turn like what’re we gonna get it’s interesting and not making sense and bro got me tripped at 4:18
Heres the tging i have to disagree about the differentiator set.My yanqing WAS trash (hes now less trash) but with differentoitor I had good crit on the first hit and yanqing's talent starts to make him less trash
Lest we forget that Tingyun is the Aeon of Preservation in disguise.
Destruction path can attack at most 3 enemies, at least with their skill or ultimate. Some passive does attack everyone, but most Destruction only attack at most 3 enemies. While erudition can attack every single enemy, means 5 enemies in their kit, either in ultimate or their skill, or their passive.
Funfact- that sett is for Yanqing. That's his best because his first hit is so low, it literally doesn't crit. This takes care of it, and then after activating his passive ability his crit rate is sky rocketing, not needing anything else. On him you should only build crit damage either way, and this sett is the perfect sett for his shortcomings too.
I thought it was a lore thing for why LL cant move when JingYuan is CC'd, JY has to actually control him kinda like a mecha or something.
For god's sake release an abundance lightcone which can cleanse on skill to buff bailu😢
That celestial differentiator is like royal set of weapon that from paimo's shop
Like
Whats the point adding crit but then remove the crit again for every hit😂😂😂
Bro Tingyun has her own agro value
That electric god is summoned whilst numby is a partner. Makes pretty good sense to me. I mean if we do compare both, numby will literally be by topaz side when dying and that god doesnt do that for jingyuan, also his ultimate literally shows that god is summoned.
Fuxuan having Critrate traces
Yep I did mention that too haha! Kinda funny how she is still insane even with the minor traces not helping her main role xd
Team idea
Use Blade, Jingliu, Qingqiu and whatever other character you want in the last slot.
All can have enhanced normal attack/skill and cannot gain SP when enhanced.
poor Natasha, she DOES get max health scaling on her basics...
from her last Eidolon. So they won't be patching HER, at least.
Crit rate on fuxuan traces is like wtf...
I alway thought Celestial Differentiator is made for Yanqing and maybe future character that has similar kit like him
Since Yanqing alway start the battle with almost to 0 crit rate, the 60 crit rate is there for his first attack
After thay, he already got the crit rate buff from his passive
we already got the rutilant, literally every DPS use this now(except FuA or ult-based lile argenti)
Or glamoth
Bailu hits with her tail, so it's seems logical that basic attack scale is ATK, and Gepard seems logic this way.
Now HP scaleers:
Linx is simplest - she uses her weight to deal as much damage as possible with her pickaxe.
Let's see Fu Xuan I can explain her HP scaling, that she uses her "life energy" to attack.. maybe.. I can assume...
Ok, next Huo Huo. This will be a little more interesting. I can assume that when *Tail* forces her to attack, her "swinging attacks" uses a little bit of her weight to deal at least some damage or as heliobus, he uses some of her actual life energy to control her.
They should honestly just change the description of destruction of instead of "more survivability" it should be "High risk, High reward"
I love my little Huohuo I will never pull for another abundance.
I'm more interested in why he used the Celestial Differentiator on Kafka...
Who has no need of Crit builds...
the question is why do you put crit build on kafka
woah
Why Arlan's splash art has peppy in it yet hes nowhere to be seen when we're playing as him 😡 i mean look at Topaz she has numby at her side all the time 😑
Maybe we can unlock a Peppy mode with Arlan eventually and make him actually SS tier💀
1. celestial diff just needs a rework
2. aggro isn't just based on taunt value, lower health = higher aggro. try giving tingyun an hp% orb and she'd get hit less
3. eh destruction is fine, jingliu is just overtuned, IL needs high investment.
4. chonky oinky deals less damage than jy and is an independent unit while LL is a manifestation, jy is stunned, he can't manifest LL
5. i gen think they just realized late that letting hp scalers basic atk scale with atk is dumb so they fixed it too late
6. traces eh.
7. well!
What never really made sense to me is how Y’know how we have 7 5*s on the standard banner? And, 7 types, as well as 7 paths. So, okay, each character should get one path and one type? NOOOO. Gepard and Yanqing both have an ice element, and quantum isn’t on the standard banner.
Why clara isn’t called clara and svarog but topaz and numby is
Wanna know something that even more not make sense(atleast for me)
The gimmick the characters have now, like it's feels weird for these characters
Topaz, a hunt specialize to dealing HIGH DAMAGE, MAIN DAMAGE, or something like thay.... Use as support(main dps topaz still work but you get what i mean)
Hanya a harmony, specialize at BUFFING your teams... Debuff an enemies with skill
Like even if i comparw her to lupcha or fuxu, both still make sense
Fuxuan stil work as preservation and her cr is basically a bonus
Meanwhile luocha.... His sht literally comes from eidolon, and i never count eidolon as MAIN kit but hanya his "buff" Literally comes from her marking which is debuff
Oh and characters that actively(like from talent or skill etc)give dot can be put on this list but not that much problem for me
Btw i want to put huohuo but like atleast her main focus is not from her ult even though everyone think different (they considered her heal as bonus instead)
Compare destruction, they still has bonus effect res so it's still count as "survivability", but still i hope they make an actual destruction or change the description to something like more sacrifice thing I mean we have blade with her health, IL with 3 sp, JL sucking her teams health
And another reason is that it's a DPS role so there might be a problem around making their kit
But hey it's still early year we might be get even more crazier
Jingyuan. Simple Really, in the lore lightning lord tied to jingyuan itself or more like his summon really while numby is dumpy... It is it own entity not tied to topaz.
The path system is fine imo (for the most part). I'm not gonna talk on supports since i honestly think all supportive units (offensive and defensive alike) have been perfectly fitting in their roles. It's just that some have a niche on top of their main supportive class. So that leaves dps. The only true outliers are DHIL, jingliu, and seele. Cause all 3 are competing with other dps classes in their roles while still being best in slot in their own respective archetype. All other limited dps are fitting in their role. Jy, argenti suck in single target for the most part. Kafka is dot queen but not a crit hypercarry. Blade is the only limited destruction that follow the rules of the path. And topaz while having the niche of supporting foa units, she's still a single target carry through and through. The path system itself isn't an issue it's some outlier units that are imo.
As internet say, to appreciate cleanse you need to experience Near death experience first
And Arlan straight up killed himself 😂😂😂
Still waiting for ghost hunting squad run
I see 2 comments so far on this.. perhaps its time ...
Just do it ⌚ meme@@GodDoggos
Ah yes celestial set
I used to use it on seele with hunt path she obliderate every single foe except last boss she swip 1 bar and gamble afterward 😂
Here is one you missed: Sushang’s Sword Stance proc is a fixed percentage. Even if she uses her technique or ult, that base percentage never increases, her ult just gives her an extra proc *attempt*. If her traces/eidolons/ult gave her a higher percentage for her Sword Stance to happen (even if they give it to her Technique), she would be able to make up for her inconsistent damage. I honestly think Qingque is more consistent than Sushang (Botha at E6) because of this.
TLDR: plz buff Sushang’s Sword Stance proc Hoyo
I think Jing yuan's stuff make sense at least lore wise, his Lightning lord is his power right, it follow his movement, just see the cutscene, while Numby is a different entity than Topaz thus can still move even if Topaz is stunned. Lorewise it makes sense, gameplay wise it so bad.
My good man I cannot be trusted with a free life sized Bailu.
I don't know that anyone notices this that why certain characters don't do well against enemies despite each of them follows their specific paths like an example why Sushang does no damage despite being a hunt character that were supposed to do massive damage or even Herta who can't even do any aoe damage despite being a erudition character
Well, most sushang damage comes from breaking enemies and attacking a weakness broken enemies. So, if your didn't deal any damage, it might be because you play her wrong
About herta, give her decent equipment and she'll become a good farmer. Her damage comes from her FuA, so if you expect she demolish enemies by using skill or ultimate then you might play her wrong
Since AoE Debuffer exists (Looking at you fishes), I think that eff res is relevant enough
I think bailu has too little base speed considering how fast she canonically runs in the heliobi event......