The pops and bangs are real trough the exhaust, its a form of anti-lag to keep the turbo spooling. Check out the channel "engineering explained" on youtube. The exhaust has electronic operated valves so you can put the exhaust in quiet mode when driven around town and loud when racing down the country lanes.
Fake engine sounds in hyundai i30 N what a load of bollix.got a fastback and it sounds great and I've got it in shadow grey.not common as muck like the Golf.
An Opel Astra OPC would eat this Hyundai i30N for dinner anywhere.. by the way yes you might say is dated but Astra OPC is still available on Opel dealers.. so it does qualify ! (>_< )
LOL the I30N looks like a station wagon. To each their own I guess. I drove the Elantra GT Sport the other day which is our version of the i30 - really a pretty terrible driving car with an awkwardly designed interior and an ok engine.
If you can't live with the stiff ride, don't put it in sport/N mode. Those are too stiff for our crappy potholed UK roads yes; but there is a custom mode, so set that to soft suspension and change everything else to how you want. Sport/N mode are only for use on flat roads which we don't have here in the UK or use on tracks.
Parkers But why would you have comfort in a hot hatch/performance car? It's like buying an Aygo and then complain that Toyota didn't build it big enough to transport your dinertable in it......
Woudam it's a hatchback still, which means it will be used on normal roads often. If you drive a lot, you'll get sick of jostling suspension and hard seats. If you only want a track car, maybe something else than a fwd hatch!
Rennie Ash Then again, why would you buy a hot hatch? You buy a hot hatch in the first place for performance and excitement, that's where the Golf loses a lot of points.
@ "All I have to do is modify my car to be better than the Hyundai".. you just said it yourself... then what happens when you modify the Hyundai ? it will smoke the Golf.. let's be real, the only people who say bad things about the i30n are Golf owners.. because the Hyundai destroys the Golf in literally every aspect.. apart from price and that's because the Golf will cost you MORE to get LESS.
@ In which way ? Because this video just proves it doesn't. I know driving a Golf you don't have much logic but please try to dispute the evidence not your emotions
@ LOL you're comparing a more expensive car ? Guess what ? The more expensive Ferrari will destroy the golf r too... You are so illogical it hurts. Typical butthurt golf owner who is upset about getting spanked by a Hyundai
The customisability of the i30 N plays to its advantage here: have it in N mode for all but the steering and/or dampers and it is epic to drive and comfortable enough!
Parkers thanks... a clarification please: did you mean in your reply that you had the suspension in Normal mode but - as said in the video - you still couldn't live with such a firm ride? Great review by the way!
Yep. So in N mode it was rock hard (no complaints there, as that mode is designed for track use). In Normal mode, however, it was still very firm and not as comfortable as the Golf GTI. Not intolerable, but probably one of the firmest standard rides of the current hot hatch crop.
You can remove the strut brace... if you really want to. Take it off when heading to the tip or carrying a long load, then fix it back on and keep it there at all other times.
@@redline589 anything other then normal it feels rock hard they say, yea right, normal and eco mode are soft, sport is harder and Nmode is indeed rock hard, and in custom mode, you pick what you want, so yea i agree on neil, golf loving clowns :D
Golf is easy prey for the i30N in a drag race, it is simply way down on power. An Australian test put them at a proper drag strip and the i30N blew the GTi into the weeds.
Almost every comparison comes up with the same conclusion. Don't understand why people are so negative about the Golf. If track days are your main concern buy something else.
Joe Maybe because a hot hatch is supposed to be a car you take to a track once in a while but is still practical enough to perform more mondaine tasks? Since you can’t take the GTi to a track for more than 15 minutes...if it was any other brand it would be cold a ‘warm hatch’.
An Opel Astra OPC would eat this Hyundai i30N for dinner anywhere and is looking much nicer too inside-out.. Astra OPC is still available on Opel dealers so, it qualify perfectly.. ;0)
As a Stage 2 is38 MK7 GTI owner I respect Hyundai/Kia for putting out fun cars now. Hopefully VW MK8 steps it up a notch. Unfortunately we Americans only get the Veloster N which I can't really see myself driving in it.
The i30n can be completely customised though... You could have it permanently set to the softest suspension setting with the rest of the stuff set to sport settings
Have you driven one? If the Elantra GT Sport I drove is any indication, and it is because it's essentially one level down from the I30n as a "warm" hatch - you'll want to keep your GTI. You can tell a lot about a performance version of a car by testing the lower level of it. The base Golf is a great little car, the i30/Elantra GT is quite subpar in every measure.
So not true, I've driven the GTI, Type-R and i30N all in one week. The GTI is a fast Golf, a Golf is a great daily, the GTI is just faster, can't do anything wrong either. The Type-R is pretty hardcore, loves to rev all the way to 7000, feels very fast and planted. But the drive modes are not customizable and rev matching only works in the firmest/race setting. The type-R looks like a spaceship and its a hate it or love it design. The i30N can be driven in different drive modes and all feel different plus you can have a setting where you can set everything yourself. When driven in normal its just like the GTI, a fast i30, but when put in sport, or N mode its a whole different animal. The steering is sharp and direct, the sound with pops and bangs make you giggle, rev matching works perfect everytime and if you want pops'n bangs but not the stiff suspenion you can set it up yourself in the custom drive mode, also the difference between soft and stiff suspenion is night and day and really makes it 2 (or 3 or 4) cars in one.
Sadly the closest we'll get is the Veloster N which I will try to drive when it comes out but I think the I30 looks much better and is much more practical. I just can't daily a manual - I sit in too much traffic. I wish someone else would make a DCT as good as VW/Audi so we would have more options.
Hyundai confirmed there will be an automatic (in DCT form) at the end of 2019 for the i30N and the Veloster N. I can understand that the i30N looks better then the Veloster but they should drive the same since its the same platform they are build on.
tubejorrit - thanks for the info, that's really good news. VW is starting to hike up the price of the GTI to what I think is too high for 2019 (up another $1100 base price) - luckily I got a fantastic deal last week on my '18 so I'm good for now. I will definitely consider the Veloster N with a DCT when they release it. It does seem like it will be a fun car.
Loko Motion it beats it by simply having for power. The current golf platform has been there since 2014 and at that time the power it had was really good. But then you can get dsg, which will compensate for the lack of power. Between you and me, would you choose the i30 n only because it can outrun a gti in a straight?
Wedow dct is a real hard transmission to get right and the only way they will get it right, it's by getting it done by a german engineer. Pretty much how they manage to make rival cars to germans. Simply employ the german.
The base I30N cost £24k and that's if you don't care about getting the electronic LSD, sports exhaust and an extra 25bhp but it has almost everything else the I30N performance has which has a base price of £28k. The best part is both come with loads of that standard equipment which would cost quite a bit on the golf GTi such as the satnav and apple car play and android auto. There are some differences in spec between the I30N and the I30N performance but they pretty well equipped. FYI the BASE Golf GTi 5 door manual without any options STARTS at £29K, the base golf GTi 5 door performance pack with a manual STARTS at £30K
Have driven both and I gotta say, what Hyundai pulled off with the i30 n is beyond incredible. For me it better in almost everything. It sounds incredible, looks stunning, drives amazing and if you don't wnat that sporty touch it can also become a comfortable cruiser.
Well here is a proof that an older Astra OPC is quicker and can go faster at greater speed than the new Hyundai i30 N : ruclips.net/video/RhjCfvSwLbg/видео.html
albertrll : if you need another good example a Seat Leon Cupra from 2016 will also kick the 2018 Hyundai i30 N performance in the nut sack here :ruclips.net/video/Ce9RihOI6E8/видео.html
Connor Grainger I apologise, didn't mean to become negative, just disappointed, they could do much better, and I can't wait for the AWD 2 LITRE rocket to match the audi rs3 lol
A car that is easier to live with if it's your DD is always the winner if you ask me.. I wouldn't hesitate to take the GTI in this case. I have driven one, its awesome. Don't even need to drive the Hyundai when they talk about rock hard ride quality. I'm not 19 anymore.
I love the i30N. Would take it over the GTI. I actually am 4eally happy you guys brought up the shiney black plastic interior on the GTI. I hate the fingerprints. Great review guys!
Not sure if that's really true, the Dacia Sandero is one of the lowest at depreciating percentage wise. Now I wouldn't have thought that........easy to fall victim to preconceptions isn't it?
Comfort mode in the I30N? Did yours not have it or something? You mention 'normal' mode. It should have comfort as an option. Custom allows to use performance options with comfort damping if you prefer. Edit: $$, The I30N is also a lot less expensive with a much better warranty.
You get much more options with I30N. I love the Gofl R, but GTI is just overrated and more expensive! I30N is a bit heavy... But there is 308GTI which is lighter... a lot, but it doesn't have that sound and some things like revmatching... Ugh... If I had the money, it would be hard to make right choice :/ xD
You all didn’t seem to mention the best parts of the i30. Did I miss the part where you can change almost every part of the i30 suspension, steering, exhaust, engine performance, and launch control. How about the crackling exhaust. Really you said none of this. You act like the i30 is just like a GTI, it’s sooo not! GTI is boring and acts like they did 40 years ago. Evolve VW
Parkers I heard it, but even that was done when both the VW and i30 were both revving their engines at the same time. If you didn’t know the i30 sounds that way, many would think it was the VW making that noise. Mentioning the i30’s unique exhaust, launch control, and the 1,900 ways the engine/suspension/exhaust may be configured would have been nice. Look at the review by Straightpipes on the i30 for example. I did enjoy your video though.
VoltecRules the rev corresponded to the car shown on screen at the time. Don't know how you could mix that up. Besides, everyone's carrying on about the exhaust pops like it is the coolest feature of a car
What about the CUPRA 300?! It's usually put in the same category. You mention the adjustable suspension on the Hyundai (standard) but you highlight the ride is rock hard in anything other that the standard setting. Then you say the ride isn't comfortable. Isnt it adjustable suspension optional extra on the golf?
Is the warranty in the UK 5 years and do they let you drive it on a race track [but not in a competition event] and still offer the warranty like down under?
The Hyundai has a custom setting where you can set up the suspension in comfort mode and the steering in normal mode. So it can be just as easy as the GTI to live with on a daily basis.
I wish Hyundai would bring the I30 N to the USA, I guess we're getting the Veloster N instead. Kinda funky looking but I've read it's the same underneath. Also get a thesaurus and find another adverb instead of "really". Keep up the good work 👍
VW golfs are over rated,I've looked at them but they don't excite me :/ there so boring,if your going to spend that much money the Hyundai is the clear winner and also Hyundai have said in Australia that they will honor the warranty if you break it on the track so long as it's not in a competition. Would VW honor that? No lol
N is faster, but if i am correct the GTI can shift from second to 3rd at 75MPH. The guy driving shifted safely. No matter though i still project the N to win because it makes sense to win stock vs stock. Modified vs modified i have my bets down on GTI
Yet again another review of a GTI that is manual, why are there no comparisons out there with a DSG or the performance pack version. It would give a whole different story.
Good point, but I suspect the other videos you've watched pick a manual Golf for the same reason as us - the Hyundai i30 N doesn't have an auto 'box option, so it wouldn't be comparing like-for-like. ^This is a Golf GTI Performance, btw. AB
Would be interesting but there's about £40 a month difference between the Golf GTI Performance DSG and a manual i30 N Performance, so you'd have to really want the auto!
The Veloster N is going to be the i30N.5. I’ve heard they have tweaked some things they have learned since they released the i30 N in Europe. Plus it’s not even out till the end of the year so there is still room for improvements. Hyundai’s goal is to be the golf gti killer and I think they have done it. Besides the interior it’s kinda blah. The noises these Hyundai hatches make stock is pretty awesome.
Good luck to the Veloster N at dethroning the GTI, especially with an expected starting price of over 30k. The interiors on those Hyundais are terrible.
I don't know why the Hyundai is even compared with the Golf .. Maybe because it's New at the moment, but in the long term the GTI will still look drive and feel like a quality car whereas the Hyundai will look and feel like a piece of shit when its older. Just look at old Hyundai Coupes if you are confused.
People just aren't getting this right now since the Hyundai is the flavor of the month. Let's wait until the Veloster N gets to the US and they try to sell it for 35K and they sit on dealer lots..
Not sure that the Golf R is a competitor for the GTI. VW has designed one to have track potential and the other for the road. The GTI Performance is not a track car but it is a wonderful road car.
I have to admit while I actually like both for the same reasons pointed out in the review, the launch in the drag race had me wondering if they even have 100hp each! lol That was slow motion. Why can't manufacturers figure out a way to stop torque steer?? Anyway, first video I've seen from you guys. Nice going. Subbed.
The runway we had was a little bumpy and damp on that day, so we’ve no doubt the cars could get off the line a lot quicker. Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for the subscribe.
It's Funny how when the Golf Gti /R is compared to the Audi S3 it gets the public vote, but when you compare it to a Hyundai it losers the vote buy people saying it's Common . 😕
One big point of difference is the Warranty - Hyundai will cover you if you take it to a track for non-competitive fun and the brakes will last all day - VW will wash their hands of you and will even go so far as to check your facebook profile for pictures to use as "evidence" to void your Warranty.
Only possible downside to the i30N will be the depreciation compared to the Golf (undeservedly so). I will be keeping a close eye on that as I think it could be a huge bargain at 2 years old.
No Wonder not saying i dont like it but i work with a lot of people that are too focused on a status symbol all trying to one up each other and its just so boring there is vw's and audis everywhere in firms carpark, also the cars are just too common now and they all nearly look the same the asian junkyard as you call it is something i know full well all the people i work with would look at in the works car park and say " who's is that hyundai thing aren't they cheap and nasty" but would be shocked at its ability to out perform all of there amazing high priced german boring boxes.
You can immediately tell the difference in suspension, body roll, and steering from 2:20(i30 N) vs 2:46(GTI) I think the answer is obvious which car is more fun to drive if anyone has ever driven a performance hot-hatchbacks
There is quite a large difference in price between the basic versions of these cars. Not so much with the performance versions as shown here. Probably worth taking into account if deciding which to buy though.
Keep in mind the GTI is getting up there in age. Wait for the next model and Hyundai will be shitting their pants. I'd still take this golf over anything manufactured by Hyundai
The second iteration of this will be more peppy and will be a smash the hot hatch competition. The only real rival would be the Type R cause that's the only one to rival its warranty and reliability.
(Adaptive) suspension can be adjusted, so i30N isn't 'N Mode' firm all the time. Well done for a slightly half-baked analysis of the new, spectacularly priced and generously specced Hyundai. Gonna buy one all the same, as the Golf is as boring as ever and others hot hatch 'legends' are underwhelming or overpriced.
So, here's the difference between the two, in a nutshell: - Golf's for the city pantomime of starting from the lights, while at the same time being reasonably comfortable; - i30N is for track use and will eat Golf GTI after 2 laps with ease; not so easy to live with every day though. Personally, I would get the i30N because quality of the interior may be in Golf's favor, but quality aside the design is so boring that it's almost in contrast with quite nice exterior design. I don't buy this "slow evolution" argument if what it means is that the dashboard shape hasn't changed in 30 years. Enough with the old, it should stay in the past!
The fact that the GTI and some Hyundai is being talked about at the same time is an accomplishment for Hyundai. Look where they were in the 80s and 90s, hell, even early 2000s they were making Crap cars
Decent little hot hatch. Not massively exciting but a good all-rounder and perfect for everyday use. If you want something a little sharper, though, how about an Ibiza CUPRA?
The Hyundai i30N already looks horrendously dated, like a second hand car from 2013, especially sitting next to the updated mk7.5 GOLF GTI, which is a rare design hit for VW.
SuperGeronimo999 the hyundai front end "is" outdate. Their LEDs are still doted like in the old LED's from 2010. The gti has smooth LED's. -outdated in my book The i30 front has nothing ground breaking. When you lunch a new model, it needs to stand out from the pack and the hyndai doesn't. -outdated in my book The interior is a total flop, it look old and seems to use old tech, old school gage cluster. Even the older gti has one. -outdated in my book The gti does not need to be flamboyant to stand out and not look outdated since it's a classic and a good recipe never gets outdated until it's not a good recipe. In the gti case, it's still a good recipe, it outsoles all of its competition grouped together.
Golf is the definition of meh. Surely depends on where you live, but here (near nuclear power plant, Grohnde, Germany) every kid owns a Golf. If not as first car, its the second. 0815.
Why would you compare a regular GTI? The Club Sport should have been used instead....and would have easily won 🤔 My APR Stage 1 GTI destroys the I30N 😎
wtf, why did the gti driver shift up that early? It sounds like the engine was in the mid 4k rpms at shifting. In my opinion the i30n is a nice performance hot hatch, but i rather would buy the gti. It´s simply more mature.
i30n hands down. 5 year unlimited km warranty including track day coverage, and capped priced servicing. hyundai back their product, its good to see
i30N sounds the best among its competitors. that nice little thing.... mmm!!
MrPodgoon it’s a fake engine sound and electrically piped through the stereo. Fake!
Probably right but I suspect the depreciation will sound like a Lancaster bomber. GTI for me thanks.
J T you want me to show you an vídeo of my stock i30n to see if its a fake sound? You can have the radio off it does the same sound
The pops and bangs are real trough the exhaust, its a form of anti-lag to keep the turbo spooling. Check out the channel "engineering explained" on youtube. The exhaust has electronic operated valves so you can put the exhaust in quiet mode when driven around town and loud when racing down the country lanes.
Fake engine sounds in hyundai i30 N what a load of bollix.got a fastback and it sounds great and I've got it in shadow grey.not common as muck like the Golf.
Give the jacket back to Clarkson
It would be a bit too small for him!
i30N looks and sounds muuuuchhh better......
says people who drive stock cars lmao
Anthony RS Considering it's stock, it's still pretty damn good.
yeh that popcorn popping sounds
An Opel Astra OPC would eat this Hyundai i30N for dinner anywhere.. by the way yes you might say is dated but Astra OPC is still available on Opel dealers.. so it does qualify ! (>_< )
LOL the I30N looks like a station wagon. To each their own I guess. I drove the Elantra GT Sport the other day which is our version of the i30 - really a pretty terrible driving car with an awkwardly designed interior and an ok engine.
If you can't live with the stiff ride, don't put it in sport/N mode. Those are too stiff for our crappy potholed UK roads yes; but there is a custom mode, so set that to soft suspension and change everything else to how you want. Sport/N mode are only for use on flat roads which we don't have here in the UK or use on tracks.
Agreed, but it is still firmer and more uncomfortable than most of its rivals even in normal mode.
Parkers
But why would you have comfort in a hot hatch/performance car? It's like buying an Aygo and then complain that Toyota didn't build it big enough to transport your dinertable in it......
We don't have roads at all there anymore, one pothole took the wheel out my hands the other day, and I was driving a double decker!
Woudam it's a hatchback still, which means it will be used on normal roads often. If you drive a lot, you'll get sick of jostling suspension and hard seats. If you only want a track car, maybe something else than a fwd hatch!
Rennie Ash
Then again, why would you buy a hot hatch? You buy a hot hatch in the first place for performance and excitement, that's where the Golf loses a lot of points.
I30N reliable faster looks better sounds better much cheaper cheaper to maintain.
WINNER!!!
how do you know its reliable? it just came out. Thats ur opinion about the looks. It does sound pretty good tho.
Exorcismer it has a 5 year unlimited warranty as standard
@ "All I have to do is modify my car to be better than the Hyundai".. you just said it yourself... then what happens when you modify the Hyundai ? it will smoke the Golf.. let's be real, the only people who say bad things about the i30n are Golf owners.. because the Hyundai destroys the Golf in literally every aspect.. apart from price and that's because the Golf will cost you MORE to get LESS.
@ In which way ? Because this video just proves it doesn't.
I know driving a Golf you don't have much logic but please try to dispute the evidence not your emotions
@ LOL you're comparing a more expensive car ? Guess what ? The more expensive Ferrari will destroy the golf r too... You are so illogical it hurts. Typical butthurt golf owner who is upset about getting spanked by a Hyundai
I'm here to see an i30N in a different colour to the light blue.
Fill your boots.
Its nice to see it in a different colour but tbh i would probs still buy it in that blue
Honestly, it looks so good, it goes with any color, IMO. I'd like a red one.
Mine is white
i ordered the performance blue (light blue) enough with the boring colours!
The customisability of the i30 N plays to its advantage here: have it in N mode for all but the steering and/or dampers and it is epic to drive and comfortable enough!
Fair point, Steve. We had it on that setting throughout the time we spent with the car. 👍
Parkers thanks... a clarification please: did you mean in your reply that you had the suspension in Normal mode but - as said in the video - you still couldn't live with such a firm ride?
Great review by the way!
Glad you enjoyed it! It’s the first twin test and drag race we’ve ever done, so make sure you subscribe to catch all our future videos.
Yep. So in N mode it was rock hard (no complaints there, as that mode is designed for track use). In Normal mode, however, it was still very firm and not as comfortable as the Golf GTI. Not intolerable, but probably one of the firmest standard rides of the current hot hatch crop.
Parkers thank you, really appreciate the replies! Now subscribed.
You can remove the strut brace... if you really want to. Take it off when heading to the tip or carrying a long load, then fix it back on and keep it there at all other times.
The Hyundai has custom settings so you can soften the suspension you Golf GTi loving clowns.
Realtalk it turns in another car when you change the settings
Exactly.
They know about the settings bro they talk about the drive mode settings at 1:45
@@redline589 anything other then normal it feels rock hard they say, yea right, normal and eco mode are soft, sport is harder and Nmode is indeed rock hard, and in custom mode, you pick what you want, so yea i agree on neil, golf loving clowns :D
What was that Drag Race? The Driver in the Golf shifted at like 3-4000 RPM
Enfant Terrible Must be still in running in mode 😂
Golf is easy prey for the i30N in a drag race, it is simply way down on power. An Australian test put them at a proper drag strip and the i30N blew the GTi into the weeds.
Almost every comparison comes up with the same conclusion. Don't understand why people are so negative about the Golf. If track days are your main concern buy something else.
Joe Maybe because a hot hatch is supposed to be a car you take to a track once in a while but is still practical enough to perform more mondaine tasks? Since you can’t take the GTi to a track for more than 15 minutes...if it was any other brand it would be cold a ‘warm hatch’.
Joe . Its because ww diesel scandal and ww consern have oilproblem in turbo motors.older ww turbo motors dont have oilproblem.
Hyundai for the win ✌🏼👏🏼👏🏼
johan peralta that fisher price interior would get old real quick
Stangman 98 get it upholstery an still win
An Opel Astra OPC would eat this Hyundai i30N for dinner anywhere and is looking much nicer too inside-out..
Astra OPC is still available on Opel dealers so, it qualify perfectly.. ;0)
Pop Laurentiu remember this is hyundai first performance car an they did good lets see in the future
What the 2013 Genesis coupe Rspec was around before this car and it is a high performance model.
As a Stage 2 is38 MK7 GTI owner I respect Hyundai/Kia for putting out fun cars now. Hopefully VW MK8 steps it up a notch. Unfortunately we Americans only get the Veloster N which I can't really see myself driving in it.
The i30n can be completely customised though... You could have it permanently set to the softest suspension setting with the rest of the stuff set to sport settings
Too many salty faceless gti fanboys in this comment section, ashamed of you all as i own a gti and would rather have the i30n.
Have you driven one? If the Elantra GT Sport I drove is any indication, and it is because it's essentially one level down from the I30n as a "warm" hatch - you'll want to keep your GTI. You can tell a lot about a performance version of a car by testing the lower level of it. The base Golf is a great little car, the i30/Elantra GT is quite subpar in every measure.
So not true, I've driven the GTI, Type-R and i30N all in one week. The GTI is a fast Golf, a Golf is a great daily, the GTI is just faster, can't do anything wrong either. The Type-R is pretty hardcore, loves to rev all the way to 7000, feels very fast and planted. But the drive modes are not customizable and rev matching only works in the firmest/race setting. The type-R looks like a spaceship and its a hate it or love it design. The i30N can be driven in different drive modes and all feel different plus you can have a setting where you can set everything yourself. When driven in normal its just like the GTI, a fast i30, but when put in sport, or N mode its a whole different animal. The steering is sharp and direct, the sound with pops and bangs make you giggle, rev matching works perfect everytime and if you want pops'n bangs but not the stiff suspenion you can set it up yourself in the custom drive mode, also the difference between soft and stiff suspenion is night and day and really makes it 2 (or 3 or 4) cars in one.
Sadly the closest we'll get is the Veloster N which I will try to drive when it comes out but I think the I30 looks much better and is much more practical. I just can't daily a manual - I sit in too much traffic. I wish someone else would make a DCT as good as VW/Audi so we would have more options.
Hyundai confirmed there will be an automatic (in DCT form) at the end of 2019 for the i30N and the Veloster N. I can understand that the i30N looks better then the Veloster but they should drive the same since its the same platform they are build on.
tubejorrit - thanks for the info, that's really good news. VW is starting to hike up the price of the GTI to what I think is too high for 2019 (up another $1100 base price) - luckily I got a fantastic deal last week on my '18 so I'm good for now. I will definitely consider the Veloster N with a DCT when they release it. It does seem like it will be a fun car.
My friend has a i30n performance it's awesome
Lucky friend - especially with the waiting list as long as it currently is!
Have you ever raced your RS against his N ? I’d like to know the outcome.
vr43000gtkid my car has the FPM 375 kits not a fair race but the n is quick and sound awesome :-)
Steve BHP DEVON damn, I was curious on how the N would fair against the RS. Since it’s getting compared to it by many different sources
As an all rounder the i30N is nowhere near the GTI! I'm glad they admitted that the interior on the i30N is just awful(I've been in one).
Interiors do nothing for me if that's all you care about buy a luxury euro car
Hyundai's very first Hot Hatch just beat the VW Golf GTI?? Houston we have got a problem. .
Loko Motion it beats it by simply having for power.
The current golf platform has been there since 2014 and at that time the power it had was really good.
But then you can get dsg, which will compensate for the lack of power.
Between you and me, would you choose the i30 n only because it can outrun a gti in a straight?
Charles-David Bérubé I30n will have an 8 speed dual clutch for the next model year. Gonna a be serious competition if they can get that dct right
Wedow dct is a real hard transmission to get right and the only way they will get it right, it's by getting it done by a german engineer.
Pretty much how they manage to make rival cars to germans. Simply employ the german.
Wedow same for the ford focus rs. It's a german creation, the kia stinger: german, etc
Charles-David Bérubé it outruns it on a track as well so yes. I'd have it every time. Much better looking than the yawn fest golf also.
The base I30N cost £24k and that's if you don't care about getting the electronic LSD, sports exhaust and an extra 25bhp but it has almost everything else the I30N performance has which has a base price of £28k. The best part is both come with loads of that standard equipment which would cost quite a bit on the golf GTi such as the satnav and apple car play and android auto. There are some differences in spec between the I30N and the I30N performance but they pretty well equipped. FYI the BASE Golf GTi 5 door manual without any options STARTS at £29K, the base golf GTi 5 door performance pack with a manual STARTS at £30K
I30 N far superior performer than the Golf gti..finally the Golf has been dethroned. I would take the Hyundai anyday and all day...what a car!!!
Have driven both and I gotta say, what Hyundai pulled off with the i30 n is beyond incredible. For me it better in almost everything. It sounds incredible, looks stunning, drives amazing and if you don't wnat that sporty touch it can also become a comfortable cruiser.
I30N for me!
I would get an Opel Astra OPC instead of this Hyundai not just for the looks but for performance too ! ;0)
Pop Laurentiu I hear there good for finding ditches 😂
Butt hurt because an older car looks better inside-out & has few more horses ? ;)
Well here is a proof that an older Astra OPC is quicker and can go faster at greater speed than the new Hyundai i30 N : ruclips.net/video/RhjCfvSwLbg/видео.html
albertrll : if you need another good example a Seat Leon Cupra from 2016 will also kick the 2018 Hyundai i30 N performance in the nut sack here :ruclips.net/video/Ce9RihOI6E8/видео.html
If the GTI was the DSG version and started with "launch control" as much as a GTI has it then it would have been a much different result.
Can't wait to the Hyundai i20 N
It’s not been confirmed yet, but fingers crossed!
I love Hyundai.
Car Reviews Really? An i20 N will make you happy! I take it you are not a car fan. If this i30 is boring and slow! Imagine anything less!!!! Oh dear.
Connor Grainger I apologise, didn't mean to become negative, just disappointed, they could do much better, and I can't wait for the AWD 2 LITRE rocket to match the audi rs3 lol
Ranim Bill Hyundai also have a RN30 in development which is 360bhp and 4wheel drive due for release in 2019
Always rooting for the gti but since the i30 n has arrived I think I fell in love again. It sounds so damn good.
A car that is easier to live with if it's your DD is always the winner if you ask me.. I wouldn't hesitate to take the GTI in this case. I have driven one, its awesome. Don't even need to drive the Hyundai when they talk about rock hard ride quality. I'm not 19 anymore.
Nice review guys. James, you are definitely the new, more polite Clarkson! That i30N is truly something!! And what a great noise! It's on my list.....
Both great. Just ordered the golf. Got a family to think of, plus love the golf interior
at 3.12 onwards the passenger appears to have smelt some shit........
WrappersParadise LOL
I love the i30N. Would take it over the GTI. I actually am 4eally happy you guys brought up the shiney black plastic interior on the GTI. I hate the fingerprints. Great review guys!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video, keep an eye out for our Cheap Fast Car of the Year award - featuring the i30N - later on in the summer.
Important if your buying not leasing etc is resales values. golf gti's hold value pretty sold, can't imagine the same for the hyundai
Not sure if that's really true, the Dacia Sandero is one of the lowest at depreciating percentage wise. Now I wouldn't have thought that........easy to fall victim to preconceptions isn't it?
Performance wise its still a GTI killer.
I will go for the GTI! Just for the quality!
Performance blue or this grey, which one do you prefer for a i30N
Definitely the blue!
Comfort mode in the I30N? Did yours not have it or something? You mention 'normal' mode. It should have comfort as an option. Custom allows to use performance options with comfort damping if you prefer.
Edit: $$, The I30N is also a lot less expensive with a much better warranty.
I’ll take the i30 N :)
Hyundai i30 N most definitely.. or even the new Veloster N.
You get much more options with I30N. I love the Gofl R, but GTI is just overrated and more expensive!
I30N is a bit heavy... But there is 308GTI which is lighter... a lot, but it doesn't have that sound and some things like revmatching... Ugh... If I had the money, it would be hard to make right choice :/ xD
At 0.10, is that condensation inside the new GTI's headlamp? Has VW dropped the ball?
You all didn’t seem to mention the best parts of the i30. Did I miss the part where you can change almost every part of the i30 suspension, steering, exhaust, engine performance, and launch control. How about the crackling exhaust. Really you said none of this. You act like the i30 is just like a GTI, it’s sooo not! GTI is boring and acts like they did 40 years ago. Evolve VW
Go to 6:30 for some gratuitous exhaust cracking.
Parkers I heard it, but even that was done when both the VW and i30 were both revving their engines at the same time. If you didn’t know the i30 sounds that way, many would think it was the VW making that noise. Mentioning the i30’s unique exhaust, launch control, and the 1,900 ways the engine/suspension/exhaust may be configured would have been nice. Look at the review by Straightpipes on the i30 for example. I did enjoy your video though.
You can do all that in the gti too
VoltecRules the rev corresponded to the car shown on screen at the time. Don't know how you could mix that up. Besides, everyone's carrying on about the exhaust pops like it is the coolest feature of a car
What about the CUPRA 300?! It's usually put in the same category. You mention the adjustable suspension on the Hyundai (standard) but you highlight the ride is rock hard in anything other that the standard setting. Then you say the ride isn't comfortable. Isnt it adjustable suspension optional extra on the golf?
Is the warranty in the UK 5 years and do they let you drive it on a race track [but not in a competition event] and still offer the warranty like down under?
Yep, five years unlimited miles including track day use.
The Hyundai has a custom setting where you can set up the suspension in comfort mode and the steering in normal mode. So it can be just as easy as the GTI to live with on a daily basis.
It’s a Golf, not a Spitfire. So what’s with the flying jacket?
James feels the cold.
AB
I wish Hyundai would bring the I30 N to the USA, I guess we're getting the Veloster N instead. Kinda funky looking but I've read it's the same underneath. Also get a thesaurus and find another adverb instead of "really". Keep up the good work 👍
That’s a shame that you’re missing out. Many thanks, we will try our best!
When Honda said "bye bye gti" things moved on .
Not sure why the humble gti is compared against an i30n. Do they still make a R32 version?
VW golfs are over rated,I've looked at them but they don't excite me :/ there so boring,if your going to spend that much money the Hyundai is the clear winner and also Hyundai have said in Australia that they will honor the warranty if you break it on the track so long as it's not in a competition.
Would VW honor that? No lol
Peace Dog to many fanboys
N is faster, but if i am correct the GTI can shift from second to 3rd at 75MPH. The guy driving shifted safely. No matter though i still project the N to win because it makes sense to win stock vs stock. Modified vs modified i have my bets down on GTI
Yet again another review of a GTI that is manual, why are there no comparisons out there with a DSG or the performance pack version. It would give a whole different story.
Good point, but I suspect the other videos you've watched pick a manual Golf for the same reason as us - the Hyundai i30 N doesn't have an auto 'box option, so it wouldn't be comparing like-for-like.
^This is a Golf GTI Performance, btw.
AB
It just would be interesting to see how much of a difference it does make. As a lot of people opt for the DSG option.
Would be interesting but there's about £40 a month difference between the Golf GTI Performance DSG and a manual i30 N Performance, so you'd have to really want the auto!
Yeah that's true, still would rather have the auto DSG. I sit in traffic all day so that's a big selling point for me.
Such a shame he doesn t know how to shift a manual gearbox! Comon guys!!
I'd take the gti any day of the week....proven pedigree and won't lose a fortune in resales
The Veloster N is going to be the i30N.5. I’ve heard they have tweaked some things they have learned since they released the i30 N in Europe. Plus it’s not even out till the end of the year so there is still room for improvements. Hyundai’s goal is to be the golf gti killer and I think they have done it. Besides the interior it’s kinda blah. The noises these Hyundai hatches make stock is pretty awesome.
Good luck to the Veloster N at dethroning the GTI, especially with an expected starting price of over 30k. The interiors on those Hyundais are terrible.
I don't know why the Hyundai is even compared with the Golf .. Maybe because it's New at the moment, but in the long term the GTI will still look drive and feel like a quality car whereas the Hyundai will look and feel like a piece of shit when its older. Just look at old Hyundai Coupes if you are confused.
People just aren't getting this right now since the Hyundai is the flavor of the month. Let's wait until the Veloster N gets to the US and they try to sell it for 35K and they sit on dealer lots..
Wouldn't the GTI Clubsport be the direct competitor?
If VW had any left it would be, they've all sold!
Not sure that the Golf R is a competitor for the GTI. VW has designed one to have track potential and the other for the road. The GTI Performance is not a track car but it is a wonderful road car.
I have to admit while I actually like both for the same reasons pointed out in the review, the launch in the drag race had me wondering if they even have 100hp each! lol That was slow motion. Why can't manufacturers figure out a way to stop torque steer??
Anyway, first video I've seen from you guys. Nice going. Subbed.
The runway we had was a little bumpy and damp on that day, so we’ve no doubt the cars could get off the line a lot quicker. Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for the subscribe.
It's Funny how when the Golf Gti /R is compared to the Audi S3 it gets the public vote, but when you compare it to a Hyundai it losers the vote buy people saying it's Common . 😕
Drag race starts at 6:30
does the GTI have DSG and launch control?
One big point of difference is the Warranty - Hyundai will cover you if you take it to a track for non-competitive fun and the brakes will last all day - VW will wash their hands of you and will even go so far as to check your facebook profile for pictures to use as "evidence" to void your Warranty.
Sooooo do we all seem to forget that the 308gti 270 can beat them both around a track???
Sheldon Gannon but it's a peugeot.
Only possible downside to the i30N will be the depreciation compared to the Golf (undeservedly so). I will be keeping a close eye on that as I think it could be a huge bargain at 2 years old.
Do VWs and german cars in general have reputations for not being reliable and expensive to fix and maintain on the UK like in the U.S.
I own a golf gti and would rather have the Hyundai.
so do us a favour and sell the GTI ... and buy your asian junkyard
liar liar pants on fire
No Wonder Funny how an Asian junkyard is more reliable and better engineered than the VW.
Says a lot..
No Wonder not saying i dont like it but i work with a lot of people that are too focused on a status symbol all trying to one up each other and its just so boring there is vw's and audis everywhere in firms carpark, also the cars are just too common now and they all nearly look the same the asian junkyard as you call it is something i know full well all the people i work with would look at in the works car park and say " who's is that hyundai thing aren't they cheap and nasty" but would be shocked at its ability to out perform all of there amazing high priced german boring boxes.
No Wonder I'm so surprised at how stupid you are. LOL
That shift in the Golf at 7:01....
Pretty good effort for Hyundais first hot hatch to be pitched against a GTI.
"Oh that piano black is not easy to clean" 1st world problems
Gives you an idea of just how good the GTI is that we have to start moaning about the piano black trim to find anything wrong with it!
See your point
Just rub it with a microfibre
These are first world cars...
Parkers you only need to look at the thing to see what is wrong with it. It's dull.
You can immediately tell the difference in suspension, body roll, and steering from 2:20(i30 N) vs 2:46(GTI)
I think the answer is obvious which car is more fun to drive if anyone has ever driven a performance hot-hatchbacks
can't wait for the veloster N here in the states.
Can’t take him seriously especially considering he stole that jacket from the top gun film set! 😂
hahahaha the sandwich bite at the staredown
You don’t get that in one of James Batchelor‘s videos.
There is quite a large difference in price between the basic versions of these cars. Not so much with the performance versions as shown here. Probably worth taking into account if deciding which to buy though.
Awful drag race. And no shot of the cars’ dashboards/interiors while reviewing the cars’ dashboards/interiors, duh?
Keep in mind the GTI is getting up there in age. Wait for the next model and Hyundai will be shitting their pants. I'd still take this golf over anything manufactured by Hyundai
Yeah that comment really didnt age well I guess
The second iteration of this will be more peppy and will be a smash the hot hatch competition. The only real rival would be the Type R cause that's the only one to rival its warranty and reliability.
(Adaptive) suspension can be adjusted, so i30N isn't 'N Mode' firm all the time. Well done for a slightly half-baked analysis of the new, spectacularly priced and generously specced Hyundai. Gonna buy one all the same, as the Golf is as boring as ever and others hot hatch 'legends' are underwhelming or overpriced.
the i30N is a lot better than what you just showed !! it has way more stuff that you didn't talk about
First compare the DSG gti to the i30 and then of course tell me about when you have to sell the two cars.
So, here's the difference between the two, in a nutshell:
- Golf's for the city pantomime of starting from the lights, while at the same time being reasonably comfortable;
- i30N is for track use and will eat Golf GTI after 2 laps with ease; not so easy to live with every day though.
Personally, I would get the i30N because quality of the interior may be in Golf's favor, but quality aside the design is so boring that it's almost in contrast with quite nice exterior design.
I don't buy this "slow evolution" argument if what it means is that the dashboard shape hasn't changed in 30 years. Enough with the old, it should stay in the past!
Why won't you compare the i30N with the Clubsport ...???!
Volkswagen no longer sell it in the UK.
Parkers too bad :(.
GTI Every Day !!!!!!!
That Hyundai can be as fast as light, but they are nasty in any form,
The fact that the GTI and some Hyundai is being talked about at the same time is an accomplishment for Hyundai. Look where they were in the 80s and 90s, hell, even early 2000s they were making Crap cars
still are really.
what wheels are on the vw
What is your opinion on polo 6r gti , previous polo gti
Decent little hot hatch. Not massively exciting but a good all-rounder and perfect for everyday use. If you want something a little sharper, though, how about an Ibiza CUPRA?
They should’ve used the dual clutch GTI
Awesome Hyundai!
VW will offer a competition package for the Golf which will make it quicker, the total price will be just short of a 911 for the extra 8bhp.
Thanks for the Video - if i were young i would buy a i30n as an ex hyundai coupe fx driver
Good choice!
lets see if hyundai can back up its hype with n30. looks pretty impressive so far
Lets see the i30n against the GTI Clubsport. They are much closer competition.
They may have similar power/handling and fun to drive. But VW still has better interior and Hyundai is cheaper to run. It's up to the buyers.
The golf, is an icon. It’s a much better car. All you have to do is map it and it will walk past the “Hyundai”
Great video. Ruined by a terrible jacket
Oh... Make sure you like and subscribe, yeah? Maybe then I can afford to buy a new one...
JD
Don't you mean "made memorable by epic jacket"?
I really liked this review guys. The unscripted feel was refreshing, and you still got all the important points across.
Vw expensive slow.is more of the same...the winner i30 N
The Hyundai i30N already looks horrendously dated, like a second hand car from 2013, especially sitting next to the updated mk7.5 GOLF GTI, which is a rare design hit for VW.
averagejoe looks are subjective, however every human and their dog own a GTI. And no it doesn’t look particularly good in my books, it’s pretty “meh”
LMAO, i almost burst out laughing! i30N has the most beautiful front ever, and Golf still looks like it did 10yrs ago
SuperGeronimo999 the hyundai front end "is" outdate. Their LEDs are still doted like in the old LED's from 2010.
The gti has smooth LED's.
-outdated in my book
The i30 front has nothing ground breaking. When you lunch a new model, it needs to stand out from the pack and the hyndai doesn't.
-outdated in my book
The interior is a total flop, it look old and seems to use old tech, old school gage cluster. Even the older gti has one.
-outdated in my book
The gti does not need to be flamboyant to stand out and not look outdated since it's a classic and a good recipe never gets outdated until it's not a good recipe. In the gti case, it's still a good recipe, it outsoles all of its competition grouped together.
Golf is the definition of meh. Surely depends on where you live, but here (near nuclear power plant, Grohnde, Germany) every kid owns a Golf. If not as first car, its the second. 0815.
Fanboy alert.
Why would you compare a regular GTI? The Club Sport should have been used instead....and would have easily won 🤔 My APR Stage 1 GTI destroys the I30N 😎
Reason being is this is a new car test - you can no longer by the Clubsport new in the UK.
The former CEO from VW Wintercorn had many respects from Hyundai. Now you know why.
The I30 wins, not a fan a VW liars and junk cars.
wtf, why did the gti driver shift up that early? It sounds like the engine was in the mid 4k rpms at shifting.
In my opinion the i30n is a nice performance hot hatch, but i rather would buy the gti. It´s simply more mature.