Why Self Taught Riders Crash 12 Times More

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @southend26
    @southend26 Год назад +73

    Best motorcycle instructor on RUclips, hands down.

    • @MotoControlEn
      @MotoControlEn  Год назад +4

      Thanks!:) Hands down, bottoms up!😁

    • @peterholst8875
      @peterholst8875 Год назад +4

      Well as far as I can tell, this guy is the only serious instructor I have seen on RUclips.
      There must be others, I just haven't seen any.
      Most of what shows up on RUclips is crap from yammi or the fire dude, people trying to make a living producing empty clickbait videos and making a "community" but don't have anything to teach.
      A lot of what the fireman preaches is wrong, and about selling you overpriced stuff.

    • @Chopbreaka
      @Chopbreaka Год назад +5

      @Peter Holst Check out Robert Simmons ( Be the boss of your motorcycle) and Moto jitsu

    • @onemanmob6756
      @onemanmob6756 Год назад +1

      Best one I've come across at least... Not only telling you what and how, but also WHY - I personally absorb new information better when I know why I should do it and I agree with the explanation.

    • @Baleur
      @Baleur Год назад +2

      @@Chopbreaka Moto Jitsu is good but he assumes new riders instinctively knows things and avoids explaining them.
      Such as "dont try to steer the bike, just let the front wheel auto-correct", i only EVER heard this from Moto Control, no other tutorial channels mentioned this, at all.

  • @marsoelflaco5722
    @marsoelflaco5722 Год назад +8

    I took a 2 day motorcycle rider/safety course in order to get my license. It was helpful but I watch reputable channels like this for more tips and pointers. ✌🏽

  • @mybibleandmybike
    @mybibleandmybike Год назад +12

    I watch your videos and every ride I go on I will find a parking lot to practice the tips you have taught… now I would not consider myself an expert by any means but I can feel myself becoming more confident the more I practice your techniques… and the most important thing I’m learning on this beautiful machine is that learning never stops and it actually makes u respect the art of riding even more… thank u for ur videos…

    • @MotoControlEn
      @MotoControlEn  Год назад +1

      Wow, thanks! Glad to be of help!

    • @boenq1908
      @boenq1908 Год назад +1

      That's the way to go. Good job, and always keep that way. Be safe.

  • @Introspectiverider99
    @Introspectiverider99 Год назад +2

    30k subs already! Congrats. Glad to see more people discovering this channel

  • @nullshock3381
    @nullshock3381 Год назад +3

    This is why I take the MSF every year, basic every year basic to advanced every other year, it's free in my state(I'm in US.) And it's a fun way to spend the weekend, and I keep my riding skills sharp. I'm aware, I am going above and beyond, but it's something I enjoy.

  • @mhoeij
    @mhoeij Год назад +6

    More recent studies don't find the 12:1 ratio, so I don't think this ratio is still accurate. Even so, it's kind of crazy for riders to go on street without practicing braking and other skills.
    I really appreciate your material to help us become safer. Ideally there would be in-person classes that I can take, and in principle, they are offered where I live, but in practice, these advanced classes never run because nobody ever signs up for them. The only classes that actually run here is the basic MSF course that people need to get their license, the follow-up courses are listed on websites but they never run. Because of this, advice from RUclips is the only source of safety information after the basic MSF course.
    And your channel is the best, you have the highest quality motorcycle safety content on RUclips. I recommend your channel to anyone who rides a motorcycle.
    PS. In addition to safety, there is another reason to learn more, riding is way more enjoyable when we learn more!

    • @diox8tony
      @diox8tony Год назад

      he quotes 2 different stats/ (1) self-taught riders are 12x more likely to crash than trained riders....(2) 92% of all motorcycle crashes are from self-taught riders, only 8% of crashes are trained riders...THESE DON"T MEAN THE SAME THING....#2 could simply mean that 92% of all riders are self-taught, and there is an even chance of crashes. the 2 stats don't connect, and #2 is useless without more info. you can't conclude #1 like he does.

  • @kridcsr1341
    @kridcsr1341 Год назад +11

    Before I bought my first bike, I watched a lot of your videos first. I am practicing by myself based on your lectures. Doing very good so far. Very easy to countersteer or lean bike but only on parking spaces. On the road it's very different because everyone is passing everywhere not caring for anyone.

    • @MotoControlEn
      @MotoControlEn  Год назад +6

      I agree! That's why we practice, so later we can pay more attention to the road situation. For us and for those who are not😁

  • @andrzejswietek4012
    @andrzejswietek4012 Год назад

    Both legs on earth and great experience. Moreover, he has got a seldom gift of explaining complex matters with simple, non theatrical words. Great.

  • @melvinallennavales8547
    @melvinallennavales8547 Год назад

    Simple and direct but also informative, I Agree many self-taught riders are prone to accidents, that why I watched YT specially your channel and practice what I learn from you.

  • @diox8tony
    @diox8tony Год назад +2

    wowowow. (2) 92% of crashes involve self-taught riders....DOES NOT MEAN (1) self taught riders are 12x more likely to crash...#2 doesn't mean anything without knowing how many riders are self taught...if 92% of all riders are self-taught, then there is an equal chance of crashing regardless of training.

  • @samchu5335
    @samchu5335 Год назад +1

    i love how smiley you always are 😁😁
    before the video even starts, we know it's gonna be a good one 🤩

  • @bulltivation7846
    @bulltivation7846 8 месяцев назад

    I'm self taught rider, but I'm taking the riding very respectful and train drills from RUclips videos like yours. I also always reading articles and repeat everything in safe environment and then on the actual road. I would say that there are two types of self taught riders

  • @ritamacedo4434
    @ritamacedo4434 Год назад

    You are the best. All your videos are so informative. Your instructional videos are very clear and very concise. i am very happy that I came across your youtube channel.

  • @drglobule8a
    @drglobule8a 3 месяца назад

    Great video, great channel. I'm a new rider with less than 300km under my wheels, and while I am a total beginner, I feel I at least have the honesty to admit it, and I'm trying to get as much good advice and training as I can, I don't want to end up a statistic. Ride safe, and congratulations, you're a great teacher.

  • @supersportscience2440
    @supersportscience2440 Год назад +3

    If by training we mean something like the Motorcycle Safety Foundation Basic Ridercourse we have in the USA, then the 12:1 ratio isn't nearly correct. We know it because motorcycle insurance costs the same (unless state law requires a discount) whether or not you took the MSF class. Repeated studies show at most a small safety benefit from MSF in the first year of riding, and no measurable benefit after year 2. But by all means take all the training you can, because some things aren't reducible to numbers. I learned by watching hundreds of moto videos, then passing the written test for a learner permit, getting a GSX-R600, and riding by myself in a big parking lot, picking up skills little by little, then on low-traffic roads, and so on. I dropped it at least 11 times in the parking lot but no injuries due to full gear. After the Gixxer was stolen, I got a ZX-10R and resumed the same process of parking lot practice and back road riding until I felt ready to take the skills test, which I passed the first time. On a superbike. At age 56. I still watch as many safety and instruction videos as I can, and a lot of crash videos too, which are a big help in actual traffic because you immediately start seeing similar situations and know how to deal with them. I might even take the MSF basic class sometime since I'm sure they have good ideas.

  • @wadeblake3451
    @wadeblake3451 Год назад

    Excellent advice and approach to riding.

  • @heritagehillsecurity8778
    @heritagehillsecurity8778 Год назад

    This channel is great. Thank you.

  • @girlandherguitar
    @girlandherguitar Год назад

    Your videos are excellent. Thank you so much.

  • @mmariorr9949
    @mmariorr9949 Год назад

    Best on the market instructions simply and smoothly💪💪💪💪💪many thanks for your efforts mate 🏍🏍🏍👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @rememberitsallagame
    @rememberitsallagame Год назад

    Man, wish I'd found you in a car park 20 years ago!, I'd still come for lessons today - if you were a bit more local 😂all the best and keep the videos coming! Bristol UK

  • @WJRobbins125
    @WJRobbins125 Год назад

    Great advice! Thank you Andrei!

  • @aluisious
    @aluisious 4 месяца назад

    Merely the point you make that counter steering is temporary and that the wheel ends up pointing left in a left turn is something that very many people in the USA will argue with forever, despite it being easily observed.
    I can't imagine that being aggressively stupid helps to avoid accidents.

  • @ruidax
    @ruidax Год назад

    Awesome! Thank you so much, great advices! Cheers, from Portugal

  • @vagtzortzis
    @vagtzortzis Год назад +2

    I couldn't stop laughing with your intro! 😂

  • @thomaspotthoff3139
    @thomaspotthoff3139 Год назад

    Loving,and learning so much from your videos! As a rider for more than thirty years, Seems I'm still learning!
    Wholey agree with user below... "Hands Down, the best motorcycle instructor on You Tube!
    So many are giving very dangerous advice... Be careful 'yall!

  • @Murad.bn2
    @Murad.bn2 Год назад

    In the recent year we have drastic increase in quantity of moto couriers, and most of them are on 50cc bikes, while by current legislation they don't need a driving license and number plates. And these guys, driving without training, are crashing daily in our crazy traffic, many get seriously hurt (also because many lack proper safety gear). So proper training is a must, both riding skills and road situation analysis.

  • @MrMangozalo
    @MrMangozalo Год назад +2

    Nacho Vidal LOL!!!!!!😂

  • @arnab6408
    @arnab6408 Год назад +4

    So if we are learning from you on YT, are we self taught or trained? Or maybe both 😉

  • @Chopbreaka
    @Chopbreaka Год назад +1

    Where can I get one of those kid pajama tops you're wearing ? 😂

  • @marcj.sibilia6030
    @marcj.sibilia6030 Год назад +2

    I think your instructional videos are among the best and most clear instructional videos out there. Thank you. But, I think the 12x number is really click-bait. At the time of the Hurt report, probably very few people took motorcycle instruction. Nowadays, instruction is much more common. If it was 5% at the time, instruction would actually make you more likely to crash. Probably at the time, it may have been 10 or 15%, saying there was a significant benefit, but certainly not 1/12. Without the number for fraction of riders with training, the 12x number is meaningless (although it did get me to click on the link). Thanks again for the great instruction.

    • @MotoControlEn
      @MotoControlEn  Год назад +1

      You caught me, I manipulated the statistics a bit, like all russians like to do😁But I think the point of the video is still valid.

    • @rienkhoek4169
      @rienkhoek4169 Год назад +1

      Haha, got you there :) but seriously, i wonder if there is still a substantial difference between, say, the US, where there is very little training necessary to be allowed to ride a bike, and a country like, say, GB, where the bar is set a lot higher.

    • @MotoControlEn
      @MotoControlEn  Год назад

      @@rienkhoek4169 I wonder myself, and I even think there is, though I couldn't find any good study which can prove that.

    • @steve5825
      @steve5825 Год назад

      These videos are not just useful for new riders there is a massive amount of advice and exercises to try even for veteran. Superb work Andrey, you deserve far more subscribers. I tell everyone that trains with me to check out your channel so I hope they do. Personally I’d like to train with you, we can all keep learning new things on motorcycles, the time it is probably most dangerous is if we think we know it all.

  • @Alien26589
    @Alien26589 Год назад

    Lots of Appreciation From Pakistan Bro

  • @akashagarwal869
    @akashagarwal869 Год назад

    in India 90% riders r self taught aftr seeing such good motor vlogging videos i wish we have good driving schools over hai

  • @prototype9904
    @prototype9904 Год назад +2

    In 1981 EVERYONE was basically self taught. Statistics can be made to say just about anything with proper framing. With that being said, numbers from 1981 are useless today m8.
    \m/

  • @grimreamer2512
    @grimreamer2512 Год назад

    Yeah, I don't know man. I took a beginner course for this exact reason and it was a shitshow. The instructor gave a 2-3min explanation of a technique and told us to do it. The instructor didn't care if I understood and proceeded to the next skill. It was a total waste of money. I bought a cheap used KLR I plan to do all the drills with pylons in a parking lot. I can't afford insane rates for private lessons, so this is the best I can do

  • @serjmonroe7585
    @serjmonroe7585 Год назад +1

    Nacho Vidal??)) А ю сисриусли, мэээн?)))
    У тебя очень крутой канал, мужик. И сам ты позитивный очень, радостный. Классно на тебя смотреть и слушать. Желаю успехов!)

  • @boenq1908
    @boenq1908 Год назад +1

    It is true, but it depends on who is the teacher/instructor behind that. -n addition to that, the rider must, I said, must use his/her brain to think from any possibilities that may happen. Just like school. Teachers cannot hold the responsibilities of future life/success of the students. Students must dig deep their own to study.
    It is no difference with learning anything that dealt with skills.
    With that said, self study can be useful or disaster. Most accidents of MC riders caused by:
    1. Lack of skills, do not practice and assume, once one knows how to ride and that's it.
    2. Peer pressures.
    3. Showing off.
    4. Arrogant. And too emotional when riding.
    5. Try to prove the rider knowing everything on the street/environment.
    6. Entitled.
    7. Impatience. Always rush.
    8 do not obey the traffic laws.
    This could happen to any riders who are taught by professional instructors or self taught by family members and friends.
    9. Knowing your bike and check it every time before riding. Just like a pilot does a pre-check flight.
    The key issue is: practice often, be humble when riding, respect other motorists when they do not, use MC as a transportation equipment just like vehicles, and everything will be just fine.

  • @jeanpaulmeyer5772
    @jeanpaulmeyer5772 Год назад

    It's also expensive and unavailable. And starting one is difficult

  • @Alien26589
    @Alien26589 Год назад +1

    I'm a self taught rider and I'm just 23 and I'm riding bike since 10 years now
    Yes
    I was 13 Y O when I started riding a 70 cc bike
    and I learned riding bike 80% by myself and I'm glad to share that I've never been into any accident or never even Got A scratch By bike except those scratches and cuts I got while washing my bike 😆
    Whatever you say about riding like counter steering
    Engine braking (I mostly use gears for braking instead of breaks but not in emergency braking )
    And recently how to control throttle
    I already know these techniques I don't know how but somehow I've been using Many of these techniques for a long time now
    And that's why I love this channel

  • @renegadepsyker
    @renegadepsyker Месяц назад

    If a pedestrian walks onto the street, should I keep riding straight? If my only option is to crash, why should I prioritize their safety over mine? Trying to do something random and falling may be worse, but the thought is, "I should get out of the way" (even if it wasn't my fault, even if they caused the situation). IDK.

  • @keithdainton6043
    @keithdainton6043 Год назад

    I was a self taught rider and I went for 50 years with no accidents till I hung up my motorcycle helmet for a ebike one.

    • @MotoControlEn
      @MotoControlEn  Год назад

      Are e-bike helmets any different from regular ones? I don't have an e-bike yet:)

    • @keithdainton6043
      @keithdainton6043 Год назад

      @@MotoControlEn yes I just wear a regular cycle helmet

  • @umuthoca3148
    @umuthoca3148 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks a lot

  • @dzunku1
    @dzunku1 Год назад

    I took a class which consisted of two 5 hour riding training first. After failing a test, I took one more 5 hour training and passed. Am I considered to be properly trained rider in this video? I bout a NAVi 11days ago and fave been practicing 8 letter myself.

  • @sharifamireye
    @sharifamireye Год назад

    But what about me, who learn bike riding from RUclips, not from any trainer!

  • @ZulRf
    @ZulRf Год назад

    haha, i was self taught and i drop mine in.....the railway....

  • @abtysonofficial
    @abtysonofficial Год назад

    I've been riding for 2 years now and have got a great control over my bike but still i feel like I've got self doubt in me i sometimes don't feel much confident about myself even though what shall i do

  • @noonsun533
    @noonsun533 Год назад

    Thanks

  • @andrechagas4549
    @andrechagas4549 Год назад

    Do you plan on offering a motorcycle training course/class in the near future?

  • @michaelbennett6572
    @michaelbennett6572 3 месяца назад

    Are you misinterpreting those stats? "Riders involved into crash : Self-taught 92%, Trained 8%" doesn't mean that self-taught are 12 times more likely to crash. It means that of those involved in a crash, 92% had no formal training. It is possible that only 8% of all riders received formal training in 1981 and that there is no correlation between training and crashes. You can't draw the 12 times more likely to crash conclusion from that one statistic.

    • @MotoControlEn
      @MotoControlEn  3 месяца назад

      It was sort of a joke with motivational context🙃

  • @JimboSRP
    @JimboSRP Год назад

    My view of anything, whether it is motorcycle riding, car driving, economic forecasting, medical advice - anything - is that you can ignore the experts if you want, but you do so at your own peril. They are not always right, but they have a far better and more informed shot of being right than you do. Play the odds.
    If you want to put yourself on a two-wheeled machine capable of catapulting you through the air at 100mph with the flick of your wrist, slap bang in the middle of hundreds of other machines 10 times your weight and 4 times your size without proper training, that's your right. Just do the right thing and tick the organ donor box before you go out there.

  • @JayReacio
    @JayReacio Год назад

    I’d love to take a motorcycle safety course, but around me they only offer courses on Saturday and Sunday, and I can’t give up a Sunday

    • @nme817
      @nme817 Год назад

      Just use up one Sunday. Maybe save you or someone's life.

    • @nme817
      @nme817 Год назад

      Just use up one Sunday. Maybe save you or someone's life.

    • @JayReacio
      @JayReacio Год назад

      @@nme817 Sunday is for God, it’s a matter of faith and conscience for me

    • @nme817
      @nme817 Год назад +1

      @@JayReacio Okay, so if you crash into a car with a family in it, and one of the children survives but is handicapped and a vegetable for the next 20 years of her life, this is better than missing church for only a single time?

    • @JayReacio
      @JayReacio Год назад

      @@nme817 Yes doing God’s will is more important than literally anything else, and I don’t just go to church, I also abstain from work. That being said God is also the arbiter of life, if He deems someone will live or dies there isn’t anything you can do about it, no amount of MSF courses is going to save you from eternity, The real safety in life comes first and foremost from a relationship with the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ

  • @didntcya
    @didntcya Год назад

    well, hurt report is 40+ years old, I guess there are a bunch of other factors which changed drastically now.

    • @MotoControlEn
      @MotoControlEn  Год назад +1

      Yes they are. Slava Ukraine!

    • @didntcya
      @didntcya Год назад

      @@MotoControlEn suspected that you ok but wasn’t 100% sure ) you have a great channel, wish you all the best

    • @didntcya
      @didntcya Год назад

      by the way you maybe have read or would be interested in MAIDS report. very detailed and informative study 2013

  • @Bugside
    @Bugside Год назад

    ..."not only people make mistakes" shows Tesla logo, nice

  • @chris-eb8ky
    @chris-eb8ky Год назад +2

    First view and first like 👍🏼

    • @chris-eb8ky
      @chris-eb8ky Год назад

      And first comment 😂

    • @MotoControlEn
      @MotoControlEn  Год назад

      @@chris-eb8ky Combo:)

    • @sharp4271
      @sharp4271 Год назад

      4 Days ago?! I am only watching the premiere now!

  • @AmazingHaze420
    @AmazingHaze420 Год назад

    Maybe the numbers are just being misinterpreted. Because the majority of people dont take proper training ok, but they are the majority riding too, so they have to be the majority on crashes as well

  • @santoshsukhai2551
    @santoshsukhai2551 Год назад +2

    I learnt on you tube sooooo……🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤦🤦🤦🤦

    • @ruidax
      @ruidax Год назад +1

      Ahahah
      Same here! Still breathing so we are on the right side of stats 😅😂 cheers buddy, stay safe n enjoy the ride!

    • @boenq1908
      @boenq1908 Год назад +1

      You can learn from anywhere in the world today. You did right. I would suggest to connect with local experienced riders and pick their brains too. Ride safely.

  • @graham7282
    @graham7282 Год назад +1

    LMAO thanks Nacho! 🤭🤭🤭🍆

  • @ocramj6861
    @ocramj6861 2 месяца назад

    marry bike and manual car = manual motorcycle :P ride safe

  • @andycocchia4202
    @andycocchia4202 10 месяцев назад

    Does watching every video I find of yours count as self taught? 😅
    Asking for a friend 🤣

  • @anyamargaux858
    @anyamargaux858 Год назад

    Weird i thought my self

  • @canoai
    @canoai 5 месяцев назад

    I love you man, but feel like I need to correct something here. Thats a wrong way of looking at statistics. For example If %90 of riders are self thought, %92 is expected in the statistic you shared

  • @Muzikji
    @Muzikji Год назад +1

    So you say learning from you channel is a waste of time? we must get trained by instructor in real life?

    • @MotoControlEn
      @MotoControlEn  Год назад

      Yes, trained by me!🤣

    • @Muzikji
      @Muzikji Год назад

      @@MotoControlEn Wow! that's cool thank you, I'll start my journey to Argentina right away! it's just 9000km

    • @MotoControlEn
      @MotoControlEn  Год назад

      @@Muzikji 😁

  • @AKKHUPAWAR
    @AKKHUPAWAR Год назад

    Either your new or motogp biker, basic rule drive slow on road.

  • @mr.robot7669
    @mr.robot7669 Год назад +1

    Wrong come Egypt every one is self-taught riders and we are best in riding bike because we drive with no traffic rule and with mad car drivers

  • @mannyechaluce3814
    @mannyechaluce3814 Год назад

    Hurt report :D he he he

  • @arvingh659
    @arvingh659 Год назад

    🙏🙏

  • @edensmith2426
    @edensmith2426 Год назад

    While I have no doubt that riders that undergo formal training crash at a lower rate than those that don't, your assertion that 'self taught riders crash 12 times more' is simply not correct. You have presented data to back up this claim, but made a logical error interpreting it. The data simply shows that 92% of the sample (of riders involved in accidents) did not have any training. To make any assertion about the effectiveness of formal training in preventing crashes, we need to know what percentage of all riders (including those that don't crash) undertake formal training vs those that don't. If for example, only 8% of all riders take formal training, then the crash statistics actually show that formal training makes no difference at all in crash rates.
    Hypothetically, your argument would be like saying 80% of all crashed motorcycles are black, so therefore riding a black motorcycle makes you 5 times more likely to crash... This would be incorrect, as it would likely just show that black is the most popular colour for motorcycles. We would have to compare this number to the percentage of all motorcycles that are black vs some other colour. If in this hypothetical example, 85% of all motorcycles were black, then the data would actually show that black motorcycles are safer than other colours! Statistics and data are great for making comparisons, but you have to be careful that you are comparing to the right thing.

    • @MotoControlEn
      @MotoControlEn  Год назад

      That was not a mistake. It was a manipulation😁

    • @edensmith2426
      @edensmith2426 Год назад

      @@MotoControlEn Well, that is not very good. If it was an honest mistake, then I could understand. If you are intentionally misrepresenting data to a public audience, then you lose credibility on everything else that you say. While your intention (encouraging new riders to take formal training) is noble, using manipulation and misrepresentation to achieve your goals is not. Please don't abuse statistics and data for click bait. Your quality content and information are what we want to see

  • @DevenportCreations
    @DevenportCreations 8 месяцев назад

    If self taught riders crash more likely does that mean watching your videos isn't going to help me become a good rider. Jk. I know what you mean. 😂😜

  • @ReevansElectro
    @ReevansElectro Год назад

    What was that cheap shot at Tesa for? Tesla drivers are 10 to 12 times safer than North Americans. Facts do get in the way of the popular narrative.

  • @MsStelab
    @MsStelab Год назад

    👌🏻🙌🙌🙌

  • @aalandk
    @aalandk 4 месяца назад

    Aka americans

  • @orhanbiyiklibykl3179
    @orhanbiyiklibykl3179 Год назад

    👏👏👏👏💚🏍🇹🇷

  • @freak1sees714
    @freak1sees714 Год назад +1

    Nacho Vidal?!? Bahahaha