Ep 33 The SOUO S 2000 and The 2025 Honda Goldwing | Crown and Comments
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- I have a brand new 2024 Honda Goldwing Tour. I will also tell you everything I know about the 2025 Honda Goldwing, and, what's up with this SOUO S2000 8-cylinder "Goldwing killer"?
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00:00 - Start
01:18 - Old News
02:19 - Podcast Update
03:24 - I visit Sena offices
04:56 - Discount on CarlinKit Wireless Carplay
05:41 - Brake Free Discount
06:19 - Bohn Armor Coupon
07:04 - Discount on Maintenance Videos
07:58 - Discount on Cruiseman’s Merch
08:25 - 2000cc Goldwing Imposter
18:07 - Your Comments
18:34 - Should I buy manual or DCT?
19:59 - Videos on installing accessories
21:09 - Should I trade my Harley for a Goldwing?
21:59 - Garmin Zumo or Carplay w/Google Maps?
24:00 - How to tie a Goldwing to a trailer
27:03 - Stuck lug nuts
28:15 - Why did I buy a blacked out model?
28:58 - Why no motorcycle lift?
30:05 - Why FOBO TPMS?
30:57 - Will the 6th gen Goldwing last 300k miles?
31:39 - Is my 2024 Goldwing leaving you behind?
32:29 - Stock seat on 2024 Goldwing
33:44 - Why did I buy from Southern Honda instead of local?
36:02 - I just installed CarlinKit
36:45 - Is the white paint on 2024 the same as the 2018?
37:24 - Question about UBS Bolt failure
38:50 - My rider backrest
39:04 - Updates to navigation on 2024
39:20 - Changes coming on 2025 Goldwing
46:17 - Improvements in 2024 over 2018
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Great C&C as usual! I applaud your reasons for buying the 2024 and nobody can argue how beautiful that bike is, yes even with the blacked out look (those wheels are the bomb!!). Thank you for the great content… it’s why I started watching you more than a year ago and is still the reason I can’t wait for the next video to come out! Ride Safe my friend !
Are you still doing youtube videos?
@@briankay3414are you asking me ? Yes.
@robertwhitephotography yes, sorry. Didn't you do Canam Spyder videos years ago? That's where I recognize your name
@@briankay3414 Oh sorry Brian that was not me :) I'm mostly Goldwing with some photography mixed in... one of the hazzards of having such a common name :)
I have to agree with you on the not waiting. I'm of that age too. You never know how long you have. Do it while you can.
Another great C&C. You are 100 percent correct. Stop waiting on tomorrow and live your life today.
Exactly!
Absolutely live for today you may not be here tomorrow. A friend of mine just passed way too early ,here one day gone the next.
I like the ending of your video talking about putting off things… I’m leaving in the morning on a trip to Alaska! I don’t want to be 60 and wish I did it but can’t. Let’s do it!
That 22 blue looks pretty good!
Well said.
Have fun!
Be safe ~almost 60
Thank you CM! Great intel as always. CONGRATULATIONS
on your new bike! Thanks again
CRUISEMAN!!! Love watching the videos. Sorry to hear about your experience at DFW Honda. I have ran the Service Department since 2014 and can assure you would NOT have the same experience. I would love for you to come by our dealership for tour. Not to mention the huge selection of Goldwing accessories we have in stock ready to be installed on your Goldwing for another awesome video.
Thanks
Jacob P.
I agree Jacob. I have witnessed & experienced ya’ll as a team strive to achieve customer satisfaction at all levels.
Will do.
Just watched your Crown and Comments. Just completed my second complete oil change with both filters. As I noted, this is my second oil change event. The neat thing is I'm using AMSOIL METRIC 10W 30 oil. The DCT is noticeable quieter. A friend who purchased a new 2018 Gold Wing DCT Tour noticed the same thing with the AMSOIL. I purchased my 2020 Used from folks in Tennessee as well. Good experience.
Love the C&C! Be here or be no where. Now let’s get that beautiful Wing some lights and accessories. Totally agree to the Brake Free and Bohn Armor. BTW. DFW Honda changed ownership in 2016. Your service experience was in 2009. They are absolutely amazing. The owner is a huge advocate of the Sewell customer service experience philosophy. You might think about taking another visit. I’m quite sure they would love that.
Deal!
congrats on the bike cg
I don’t think a new bike coming out is a bad thing no matter who makes it. I hear a lot about manufacturers copying someone else’s designs but everyone does that to a degree. Buy the brand of bike that makes you happy
Thank you for another great report.... I am like some of the others and totally agree with your comment about not waiting.. We are the same age and feel the same way about that.. That is why I am getting back in riding touring bike. Got a lot of time in the seat during the 80/90's But got out trying to keep another person happy... And thanks to you and Robert I have got my old passion to ride back and so looking forward to it.... Ride safe
Another great crown and comments. I hope you solve your problems with your heated grips.
Thanks for another fantastic video! I’m also of an age where waiting for the next (maybe) great thing, rather than enjoying the opportunity right in front of you, makes little sense. I purchased a new ‘23 Tour DCT in January and am absolutely loving it. I recently met a friend in Atlanta and we rode rented H-D’s-I live in Las Vegas-through Tennessee and the Carolina’s ending up in New York. I was on a brand new ‘24 RoadGlide. It was a very solid bike with tons of torque. That said, I was never more sure that I made the right choice with the GW! Someday I’ll do the Tail of the Dragon again, but on my GW this time.
I am now on my third GW with factory heated grips and they all worked as advertised. Possibly your new bike has a processor or connector issue.
Good Rides
Your videos are getting me interested in riding again. It’s been 30 years since I sold my last bike , a 1988 Kawasaki Voyager 1200. I always wanted a GW, but I wasn’t riding due to “life” but the latest advances (DCT, B/t helmets, GPS, etc) have tweaked my interest. I don’t know that I’d ever get my wife to agree and the highway traffic is daunting compared to what it was 30 years ago. So, I’m watching your exploration of your ‘24 with some interest.
Thanks Cruiseman
I test rode the Star Eluder and actually loved it.
I got my 2023 Goldwing about the same time you did you got your new bike. Going from 2008 to this is a lot. Love your stuff. Had my old bike for 8 years. I’m really interested in accessories recommendations.
I live in Waco maybe I can meet y’all up there some time.
Good video Chris.
Thanks 👍
Got so fed-up with the Honda heated grips on my Integra, changed them for Oxford ones and all problems over!
Great Chris ,like the new ride,Chris Hurst TX 🇬🇧
I was at my Honda dealership, in Canada, the other day and based off the VIN, they told me my fuel pump is one of the ones that needs to be replaced. They said to call back in a couple of weeks to see if they had gotten any in stock, but I'm not holding my breath. It was nice to be able to confirm whether or not I needed to have it replaced though. On a side note, I took part in a Prostrate Cancer Awareness Ride, yesterday, May 25th. The high for the day was +9C (about 47F) with rain and strong winds the entire day.
I agree with buying what you want now if you can swing it. There is a saying “ tomorrow may never come!!!”
Holy Mackerel, if it was me, I’d be upset about the handgrip heat issue; it’s not what you expect on brand new equipment. I guess it’s time to follow roadglide’s suggestion above and give DFW Honda another opportunity. Good luck on this. Please keep us updated on your thoughts regarding a bike jack or lift. Thanks for this video and have a great memorial weekend.
Dealerships only selling MSRP is THE reason I have not pulled the trigger on a new DCT. I will NOT pay top dollar but receive minimum on my trade!
Talk to Southern Honda in East Ridge, TN
My 2018 left hand grip took a crap this winter, my buddies 2021 had the same issue.. stoped at a bike event and spoke with a retired Honda rep about the grip. He said that has been an issue in past so I would say they haven’t resolved…..
Another great crown & comment Chris. I’m going to be in the DFW area next week. Maybe I’ll be able to meet up with you and Robert if you’re at breakfast on the 2nd.
I should be there
Such a great perspective on not putting something off.
On removing the rear wheel. I use a 2x4 about 2’ long. I slide it through the wheel and use the exhaust as my stop. Get my 24” breaker bar and break all the lug nuts loose.
The motorcycle show in Japan didn't have it. It was only at the Motorcycle show in China. Due to the tariffs the US placed on Chinese imports it may cost a lot.
I got the Carlinkit (dongle?) and keep it attached to my 2020 6 speed tour Wing, all the time. It works great, and I haven't had an issue yet. I have had Android auto quit on me once or twice, but it was lack of service. It's a great product, and I'd highly recommend it.
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Agreed ref your “life” thoughts, 100%! Do stuff while you can as you NEVER know what fate has in store for you. Mother Nature never sends a postcard warning you she has her eye on you. Good advice Cruiseman, some people never learn that lesson to their detriment. When at deaths door, you regret what you didn’t do, not what you did. Good video and thanks from the UK. 👍🏻
Use the rear brake to hold the rear wheel
yes, Southern will move your accessories from your previous bike to your new bike. But they will charge you for that service.
Cruiseman I know what that guy was referring to on the subject of having to pay to see your videos, the video of you installing a few upgrades on your new bike, it said one would have to join and pay a monthly fee to view, but the very next day it was available as usual for free, so I guess it was some kind of freak accident judging by your response and not having a clue as to what that gentleman was referring to, maybe it got entertwined with your repair video format somehow, just guessing....Javi G.
At least, the Chinese bike looks interesting. But, to be honest, I`ll go after a Goldwing regardless. I currently ride a Kawa GTR1400, still mega happy with the bike. I ride from the UK to Bulgaria almost every summer. But I feel I need a change. So, though I consider a purchase of a BMW bike/either K1600GTL or R18 Transcontinental/, but my primary choice will be 2021+ Goldwing Tour DCT...
Ref the Chinese “Goldwing”. I think it’s a case of wait and see before making hasty decisions or forming a blinkered view. However, I think the Chinese bike is a BIG kick up the arse to Honda to up their game with the current Wing. As good as it is, it needs a serious upgrade already at the current price point.
Cruiseman. Love the content as always. Just experienced something you mentioned a few months back, i.e., RUclips cancelling subscriptions to your channel w/o any warning or explanation. Signed on to RUclips on Wednesday, and YT had cancelled all of my subscriptions including Chris Caliente and Doddle on a Bike. I'll keep on reupping my subscription if it keeps happening. Peter in Santa Fe.
Interesting
Ref the fuel pump. As posted before, my UK 2019 Goldwing fuel pump failed recently. (no recall for 2018-2019 bikes in the UK). Since the pump was replaced a couple of weeks ago, I have noticed a distinct improvement in performance. The bike seem to be more responsive, a smoother ride and the DCT gear changes are smoother.
You should move the pegs position to where the tip over bar is just behind the foot pegs I have mine just before the tip over bar it gives you a slight bend in the knees and the pegs are a little higher from the ground looks like you have them past the tip over bar so they are closer to the ground
The new Chonda 2000 Gold Ring.....dang difficult to pronounce those W's.......Wonder if they'll team up with AAA for emergency services???
Just to touch on your most recent video with your new 2024 goldwing. RUclips notified me that you had a new video and when I initially tried to view it youtube or your channel gave me a message that in order to view this video I had to join your channel with a payment-which is/was weird bc you have never had that before. I tried viewing it again later and it was fine like always with no message saying I would have to pay to view it. That’s probably what that comment you mention here was referring to.
I bought my first ever gold wing it's a 2023 DCT and man you not kidding that transmission is a dream I do ride the bike in both manual and automatic mode I just like the option of manual or auto there are times I like doing the shifting and being in a gear I want to be in and there are times it is jusrlt a dream to have the ability for manual mode to just not have to worry about shifting and especially when I have a passenger the passenger says to me they are so much more comfortable when the bike is in auto mode they can't feel the shifts and the bike is just so damn smooth so I love my DCT and would je er traded for the manual version ever I do have a se and bike that is manual DCT has me spoiled I am not new to DCT I have had several honda DCT bikes and loved them
I feel the exact same way, if the 50th is that nice Ill trade my 2024. That 2022 was the best color!
Congratulations on the new bike. I am not sure how to send a message. I am interested in how the DCT handles a trailer at low speed parking lot maneuvers and off pavement grass areas,such as a campsite. I have been on goldwings for over 30 years. I have done field events and top gun competitions . I am use to using a clutch. As I am getting older and arthritis is effecting my hands ,not pulling a clutch lever has my attention. I have not found much information on trailer pulling with the DCT. Maybe you could do a video on this to provide so info .
You re-learn how to use the rear brake under low power to get similar effect of a neutral zone.
I'll take odds on that trifecta
Good morning CM! I would like to know where do you get tires when you need them and, who do you trust to install them here in DFW.
Thank you Sir.
Also...LOVED the Stallion Brown!
Hmmm... the question I would consider is is the flat 8 the upgrade Honda should have done or maybe make the flat 6 a bit larger instead of making the GL as small as they have. As for the upgrade, that sound like a Harley Davidson sales tactic, glade your happy and that it worked out for you.
I just traded in a 2021 6 speed tour, no heated grip issues, for a 2024 tour DCT, my 2021 had Gold strike hwy pegs, they are on the 2024 now, no issues. yes they feel spungy but I have a ton of confidence in them 30,000 kms later. they will scrape on the twisties, NOTE: if you are riding a twisty road, your feet shouldn't be on them! just saying
Chris, congrats on the new Wing. Curious if Honda has reengineered the tour-pack (top-case) so it is more easily removed and reinstalled. I have a 2021 DCT Tour and the inability to take this large heavy trunk off and on is my biggest gripe with the bike. I am aware that Max has a kit to assist with this. Have looked at that closely and after considering the labor to install the conversion parts and the resulting labor involved in taking it on & off, I am passing on it. Just can’t understand why Honda can’t give us a trunk that has maybe 4 bolts inside to remove and a couple of quick-disconnect wiring harnesses to allow a much lighter and sportier ride. BMW has had it incorporated in their K1600 GTL for years now.
Right on about the 2025 GW. People don’t understand that marketing is important in product sales. They don’t want to kill sales of the 2024.
Very interesting that they are also using a knock of the Yamaha front end.
Have you seen the new btmoto programmer? It’s great more power much much smoother shifts. Increased rev limiter and no speed governing
Just have one question Cruiseman, what Carlinkit did you get for your GW? Was interested but I would like to know what you are using! Thanks for the great podcasts! Good job!
5.0 2air
Great C & C Cruiseman! And if anyone ever calls you an idiot for not knowing what the 2025 will have as changes, they're an idiot themselves! 😉 Thank you again for your channel!
Is the Memorial sale not applying to the 2001-2017 maintenance videos?
Use code RUclips for a 20% discount
Just curious how many miles were on your 2018 when you traded it in? Also, what did they give you for your 2018 and what did you pay for the 2024? Asking for a friend..... 😉
We’d all be better off buying less chicom stuff.
Something is slightly off with that one that an extra cup holder will not help.
Get the Ranger lift
Are you considering adding traxxion dynamics front shock assembly
Not yet.
My right hand grip 19:22 on my 2022 is often hotter than the left hand side. Not always though. Seems hit and miss
I have same exact issue. At some point I will check the circuit current draw for each side grip while also monitoring the total current draw for both. I have been told that Honda may be pulsing the power to each so that only one grip is energized at any given moment in time. In this way, they reduce the overall power drain by 50% on the electrical system ( generator/battery ). A few years back, I ran a test on my Gerbling heated jacket, which I love, to find the actual current draws at various heat settings and was surprised to find a similar pulsed power approach. So if the control was set to a lower setting, the “ON” pulse time was reduced from the “ON” pulse time at a higher setting. I don’t think in the case of the jacket, it was an attempt to reduce current draw on the bike’s system, but simply the engineering of the control to vary the heat delivery, rather than using an inefficient resistor approach. Just my theory and open to being corrected. And how did I read this pulsed current? I had a Fluke multi-meter with a 10 amp. max. series limit connected in-line with the positive circuit conductor and I had current readings that would flash on and off at a speed that was related to the setting of the controller.
That SOUO 2000 looks absolutely gorgeous.
To the man that's having trouble getting his lug nuts off his DCT. If the parking brake isn't enough to hole the rear wheel, get your wife or someone to apply the rear brake. Problem solved.
Before I entered into motorcycles worlds since 2010..
My 1st motorcycle was made from Chinese technology..
I brought that unit accidentally maybe budget I already have..
Just to make it short..Regarding about Chinese motorcycles..
I agree that In terms of power/speed design & electronics was great..
But didn't not enough to sustain the lorgerabilites..
Maybe rider need extra ability in terms of technical mattes applied..
But I feel great for having a good & bad experience..
This could be my priceless motorcycles until now..
Even I have another 2 kind branded motorcycles
Speaking of homages (copies) how about the Pfmoto Starship 6 or the Starship 3. Now if only they made a Starship 8.
This shearing bolt issue is being perpetuating by an entity that is stuck in the 2012-2015 era Goldwing. Take it as you wish; buy everything old and outdated OR buy something new and PROVEN.
Your Choice! Good Rides
And now for their final act, the Chinese have stolen and copied the mighty Goldwing and made Super Goldwing. But does it have the SOUL of the finest luxury touring motorcycle? Hmmm.
Hello from Belgium a goldwing can do alotte of miles but they say to check valve clearance at 24000 km is that really nassesary to do that every year almost when you drive alotte the airfilter the same terrible thing to do. You're friend Mike says leave him til 70000 km what you think?
I have never adjusted valves on any of my Goldwings.
A Sena support guy told me it is pronounced, "see-nah".
Question for you cruiseman I am new to the gold wing world I have a 2023 DCT I'm a little confused on the 2 filters ok the question there is an oil filter that gets changed everytime you change the oil so the trans filter that gets changed is there a is there a transmission fluid that gets changed that is separate from the oil?
The oil is the same for the DCT and engine.
@cruisemansgarage so basically there are just 2 filters that get changed at different intervals
@@michaelsloane1034 Well, sort of. Every 8,000 miles I change both filters, every 4,000 miles I only change the main oil filter.
I was planning on buying a 2024 non-tour but I hate the green color so much I'm anxiously waiting for the 2025. Thanks for your great channel.
I have heard a lot of hate for the green
Cruiseman sir, I'm 60 been riding for years mainly dual sport and motocross, looking to buy 2005 with 70 k on it, my question sir, is that too many miles or no, It does appear the bike has been serviced properly, just concerned of mileage, your comments would be appreciated I value your insight, thank you , William
70,000 is low milage for a Wing , has it been kept inside, when was the last fluid change ! I have an 04 with over 300,000 no problem with just regular maintenance
@@gerryroberts1643 yes sir according to what he's telling me everything is he changes the oil every 3,000 miles air filters been replaced put new brake pads on it tires are fairly new put a new front brake rotor on it so he's maintained it properly I think I'll take it I hope you're alright thank you
@@gerryroberts1643 and yes it's been kept inside
I think a lot depends on the price.
Bolt, Washer and Gasket came in today. It's a updated bolt, Honda knows there is a issue. So I'm changing it out. Honda wont do anything about it until they get backed into a corner and beat on by a major government or governing body. $30 in parts verses any chance of catastrophic failure. It's a no brainer.
I have an older 1800. The new goldwing does not work for me because I'm 6'4" with long legs. If I buy a new bike I will have to leave Honda and go to BMW grand america or a Harley.
News flash! Wing stuff isn't the biggest. Partszilla is even bigger. Wing stuff prices stink!
Cruize man before you smack the Chinese bike. We need to have a serious talk. Honda has already given in to the Chinese to make parts. I went to my dealership mind you. Because I like to give business locally and I'm wanting authentic Honda part. They called me and I went to pick up my part. I pulled the part of the box to inspect it and you know what I found. Made in China. I am livid. I wonder if all my future parts are going to come from China. I think the Japanese is losing their focus. I thought I could believe in Honda. Seems to me we will have future of our Goldwing's coming from China if this is any indicator.
Could be.
The Chinese bikes are excellent; I can tell based on experience!
Keep fast forwarding the video, on minute 8 now - still self-inflicted commercial ads...
Some people just can't help it...
Really going out on a limb stating the 2025 Gold Wing will have an anniversary badge, new colors, and price increase.😂
So many people are talking about Great Wall’s motorcycles that are replicas of Honda and Yamaha. . They just copy and mix. Most cities in China ban motorcycles from entering the city center. If any motorcycle looks good and sells well on the western market, they will copy it with a ruler and camera, and the resulting junk product will not sell many units anyway! This is how Chinese motorcycles entered Southeast Asian countries such as Vietnam and Thailand decades ago. Within a few years, the market share reached 90%. After a few years, Chinese-made junk motorcycles gradually disappeared from Southeast Asia. . .
Your wrong on so many levels it isn't funny. Kawasaki and Honda have invested heavily in Chinese manufacturing. Many of the engines found on Chinese motorcycles are built under license from Yamaha, Kawasaki and Honda. The Japanese labor costs are huge. That market, like American manufacturing, has about played out. Now, Japanese Manufacturers are looking for cheap labor to remain relevant. CFmoto is doing well especially considering they're but a start-up. Read the reveiws of the Ibex 800T. It's not quite up to Japanese quality, but the basic tech is there and the price is way lower than the competition. Some of their models like the 400ss are stunning at their given price point. It may not be long until the badge on this Souo 2000 reads Honda Goldwing. I'd bet Honda or Yamaha is behind this effort and may put their name on it once the quality is up.
Save yourself, Cruiseman-get an MC Lift; as your videos have made it plain to all who have seen them, your burden of proof is a moot point now. I am long in the tooth, aka known as Old Fart, and I absolutely enjoy the maintenance time when I am not crawling around on the concrete floor, not to mention getting up from the floor. Love that new White GW you purchased too!
I’ve heard the Chinese bikes have major electrical issues
As a motorcycle mechanic and a gl1500 rider I would like to put the screws to one of the souo 2000
When and IF this chinese bike ever makes it to USA market; please evaluate it after maybe 20 or 30 MILLION miles of proven reliability beyond ANY tour bike!
OR roll the dice to save a few thousand dollars with perhaps a 5% chance of outperforming a Goldwing...OR ?
Good LUCK!
TwenTy TwenTy four……not Tweny Tweny Four…,!
I had a Chinese bike once. That was an experience I don't want to repeat. I for one would never buy another Chinese bike no matter how good it seemed. The big downsides to owning one are lack of dealer support, lack of parts, lack of service manuals and frequent breakdowns.
The chinese bike took the front of the yamaha...the handlebar placement doesnt look good at all and im betting anyone that may get one in us and has issues its gonna be just about impossible to fix it and dealers will be few and far between...stick with the wing..its proven to last
starts at 28,550 ...3 year warranty. no friggen way am i giving CHINA my hard earned money... my one owner 88 gl1500 still going strong at 72,000 miles
Saw this on another video: the SUOU 2000GL is basically just the “Harbor Freight Goldwing” 😂
That’s not a compliment, nor is it meant to be. That bike is Fugly !
Listen, china has 2 markets. Actual brands, and knockoffs that only sell in china and 3rd world countries.
Souo is aiming at the most reliable, best reputation motorcycle company... Honda. Good luck!
🌿 this company is the biggest automobile manufacturer in the world 🌎 they sell more than any American or european company and their knockoffs are fantastic if it works like the automobile it will be thousands of dollars less than a standard motorcycle in America
That navigation is without a doubt the worst navigation I have ever use it's pathetic for a 30k bike you basically can't use the damn thing I live in hickory NC and if I got 10 miles from my house and ride back roads the damn navigation is blank showed no roads at all you just see the track line just absolutely terrible I have updated the thing too I notice this all the time if I am on some back cou try roads navigation show no roads or name of the road it's lime the bike don't know where the hell it is you can zoom out and it will show roads 5 miles away from where you are why they don't use Garmin nav is beyond me 30k and a shitty nav for touring really just pathetic so I have to use aftermarket or my android Google maps
You said you won’t buy anything if you can’t pronounce the name of the company straight after admitting you couldn’t pronounce Sena? 🤷🏼♂️
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@cruisemansgarage Still loving your content though.. thanks. 😃
I don’t want Chinese parts . I definitely don’t want a Chinese bike
Sorry I just can't warm up to Gold Wings
Too m.uch garbage
To much plastic
Sure handlebars ???..
Oh no.r bill
Don’t like Honda Goldwing ugly