Very nice! The original Hornby company (Meccano) achieved Similar in 0 gauge tinplate back in the 1920’s - points, signals and track control of clockwork locomotives. They provided a little lever frame that fitted inside the signal box that controlled up to 6 items. Very charming, now very rare and sought after. Bassett Lowke went one further with an interlocking lever frame that worked in a similar way to the real thing to co-ordinate track and signal movements and prevent conflicts etc - in the 1930’s! Goes to show there’s nothing new under the sun - I really like what you’ve done here and as you can see it’s in the best tradition of the hobby.
My father put full block and interlocks but electrically on my late 70s layout, he got his mate on the S&T to draw him up a wiring plan and it allowed me to set a complete complex route as each colour signal had a connected neutral section so a red the loco would stop at the signal, green or yellow it could proceed and once it was in the section, any train following behind would be halted at the red signal. OK it wasn't a full power box type panel but using Lucas toggle switches I could set a "road" which automatically energised the power, set points to signals and I remember showing it off at school. It was actually very cool and found out he had mechanically done the same with his own 3 rail layout in the early sixties getting the idea from an old BTC signalling film he had to watch when he joined BR.
I cant se why you would go though the extra expense of putting point rodding in if you where going to use ordinary point moters to move them, what I mean is couldn't you have a lever frame at the edge of the layout that controlled the rodding? It seems like the only time would use point moters is when the point is not easily accessible or the means of providing motion through rodding or cables unfeasible. I am still very impressed by the fine scale look of the bell cranks and supports.
I really like this! Having spent my early life in the S&T installing 12" - 1' versions of this! Do you make compensators too, which would help take up the slack if using a manual lever frame?
Hello CSX Rensville - yes you are quite right - the over-centre spring is removed here. This should be removed whenever you install any slow-action turnout motor - they should only be retained when using solenoids or for manual operation. I hope this helps - ^Richard B
Hello Blackstorm86 - you can find this here: www.dccconcepts.com/product-category/the-cobalt-collection/cobalt-point-motor-accessories/workingpointrodding/
Hello Farmer Dave, thanks for the comment. The noise is made by the point motor moving the rodding. The clicking sound is the relays on the main board changing which in turn changes the "frog" power output. I hope this helps. ^Richard B.
Hello TaffBoySlim, In this example, there is a small Cobalt SS motor which is driving the rodding - the rodding is then driving the point. However, you could also use an under-board slow-action motor and have the point cosmetically drive the rodding back to the 'box. I hope this helps - ^Richard B.
@@johnchandrav.1823 Hello John - yes you could connect the rodding to a manual lever if you wish - just be careful to limit the motion of the lever so that you don't damage the cranks :)
Hello John You can find the full range on our website. www.dccconcepts.com/product-category/the-cobalt-collection/cobalt-point-motor-accessories/workingpointrodding/
Very nice! The original Hornby company (Meccano) achieved Similar in 0 gauge tinplate back in the 1920’s - points, signals and track control of clockwork locomotives. They provided a little lever frame that fitted inside the signal box that controlled up to 6 items. Very charming, now very rare and sought after.
Bassett Lowke went one further with an interlocking lever frame that worked in a similar way to the real thing to co-ordinate track and signal movements and prevent conflicts etc - in the 1930’s!
Goes to show there’s nothing new under the sun - I really like what you’ve done here and as you can see it’s in the best tradition of the hobby.
My father put full block and interlocks but electrically on my late 70s layout, he got his mate on the S&T to draw him up a wiring plan and it allowed me to set a complete complex route as each colour signal had a connected neutral section so a red the loco would stop at the signal, green or yellow it could proceed and once it was in the section, any train following behind would be halted at the red signal. OK it wasn't a full power box type panel but using Lucas toggle switches I could set a "road" which automatically energised the power, set points to signals and I remember showing it off at school. It was actually very cool and found out he had mechanically done the same with his own 3 rail layout in the early sixties getting the idea from an old BTC signalling film he had to watch when he joined BR.
@@dodgydruid that sounds amazing and likely to produce a pretty prototypical experience!
Another great innovative idea. Thanks for sharing. Must try them.
I cant se why you would go though the extra expense of putting point rodding in if you where going to use ordinary point moters to move them, what I mean is couldn't you have a lever frame at the edge of the layout that controlled the rodding? It seems like the only time would use point moters is when the point is not easily accessible or the means of providing motion through rodding or cables unfeasible. I am still very impressed by the fine scale look of the bell cranks and supports.
Steam era railways look odd without the signal roads from signal boxes to signals and points 🤷♂️
Any plans to do the earlier GWR round rodding?
I really like this! Having spent my early life in the S&T installing 12" - 1' versions of this! Do you make compensators too, which would help take up the slack if using a manual lever frame?
Hello Simon - yes we do!
You can find them here...
www.dccconcepts.com/product/compensating-crank-pack-3-cranks-accessories/
I hope this helps!
^RB
@@richardbrighton7737 Thank you. I think I should have explored the links before I pinged you!
@@simonjames3845 not a problem at all :)
Very nice. I take it the over centre spring has been removed from the point.
Hello CSX Rensville - yes you are quite right - the over-centre spring is removed here. This should be removed whenever you install any slow-action turnout motor - they should only be retained when using solenoids or for manual operation. I hope this helps - ^Richard B
Are these for sale? I checked your webpage but I didn't see these listed. Did I miss something?
Hello Blackstorm86 - you can find this here: www.dccconcepts.com/product-category/the-cobalt-collection/cobalt-point-motor-accessories/workingpointrodding/
My rod throws do not make that electrical arc noise. What am I doing wrong ?
Hello Farmer Dave, thanks for the comment. The noise is made by the point motor moving the rodding. The clicking sound is the relays on the main board changing which in turn changes the "frog" power output. I hope this helps. ^Richard B.
That’s amazing
Thanks Aviation XL - we like it too :) ^Richard B
I've been wondering how to do this instead of having under board servos
Cool
Is this 'the point being changed by moving the rodding' or 'the rodding being moved by the point changing'?
Hello TaffBoySlim, In this example, there is a small Cobalt SS motor which is driving the rodding - the rodding is then driving the point. However, you could also use an under-board slow-action motor and have the point cosmetically drive the rodding back to the 'box. I hope this helps - ^Richard B.
@@richardbrighton7737 Hi! I have a question..can the rodding be rigged up to a manual lever?
@@johnchandrav.1823 Hello John - yes you could connect the rodding to a manual lever if you wish - just be careful to limit the motion of the lever so that you don't damage the cranks :)
Interesting stuff. Can you refer me to any US suppliers?
its a lever and pivot. good but hardly amazing
Hello John
You can find the full range on our website.
www.dccconcepts.com/product-category/the-cobalt-collection/cobalt-point-motor-accessories/workingpointrodding/