Just to clarify here - I don't think either of these 70 cost units are top meta picks, but both will be more niche play with increased value for Limited PVP events like CM or LGB. I think 6k paid for the unit and 200 shards is a nice value for people who regularly spend on the game, but I personally wouldn't advise 36-40k Free to pity either of these units, they're not worth that IMO. Anyway I hope this is helpful for some people that were trying to maybe pick between the 2 and take advantage of that bundle.
Perfectly timed music crescendo, building up to the final category; your video craftsmanship is stellar as always. Thank you, you and the other stellar creators keep me invested in the game.
I LOVED this format! I was really engaged the whole way through. Also just wanted to say I use your VC doc all the time. So helpful when considering what units to pull based on what I have/planning. Thank you JB!
The main battle FF music Is from Distant Worlds The Journey of 100! The intro music is a cover of 'The Man with the Machine Gun' from FF8 - I linked it in the description.
i got Ashen Lynx for 7.5k free visiore.. i felt lucky and i was right!. Now im going to buy Kitone as i want them both as options for CMs. One thing to note about HP barrier over regular barriers.. ON HIT status effects dont land on HP barriers, i havent tried w debuffs, but i used status effects too much (to realize and test later) that even without resistances to a status or negative resists.... the status effects dont land until HP barrier are broken.. because Lynx HP barrier is physical status effects tied to physical attacks wont land until depleted (unless they come before dmg or are TP skills). Great content today Mr. JB79. a great comparison and analisis. Thanks for your hard work!
That banger intro track! I'm terrible at saving, so I'm broke from A2. So unless I can lucksack on discount pull, they both aren't happening. Definitely not worth buying a $65 pack to buy a unit in my world. Give me my rosaluna 😍
That's understandable, for people who regularly spend I think the unit + 200 shards for 6k paid is a nice value, but for people who don't spend as much I totally get it! I wouldn't invest a 36-40k free vis pity into either of these units.
This is a great comparison of the units on paper. I love the presentation and the metrics that are being compared. I agree with you that using these quantitative comparisons miss some of the nuance provided by their kits, ai, and supporting members. I think an accompanying AI test would help capture some of that. Personally I'm a bit underwhelmed by the units. I was looking forward to them because I like the OG versions and play both fist and water. I would have liked them to have a 9 step, and/or been included in the permanent pool. Now I have to think hard about whether or not I pull them for limited guild battles. This was a great resource!
Meta impact wise, I think they're a bit of a step down from some cost 70 units we received recently like Shalze, HLucio, and WRaph - those units though are frankly overpowered for their cost level, so it's a high bar to live up to. I still think they're both pretty strong for their cost and are solid units in the grand scheme of the game, but are both entirely skippable for most players.
Great video as always! It would be so nice to see detailed analysis of Elder VC awakening from you (or maybe together with ReadyPlayerWill) - maybe in a form of tierlist to set priorities (like which VC to awaken in first wave, in second etc.) Thanks in advance!
The cost to upgrade them is pretty small, just 175 vision shop currency for the tokens and 1m gil. If you're lacking in that currency I would just upgrade whatever main cards you use first. They gave us enough to upgrade like 6 or 8 of them right off the bat.
@@JB79 well, it's hard to disagree, but we have little over 100 non-limited VC and I don't think that 175 ur vision medals is a low price, esp for F2P. Anyway, I thought it was a relevant idea for the content
Hey @JB79 can i ask , unreleated to this video, the 4th anni was on jp like 3 months ago i think, when do you think it will come to global ? I'm still very new and asides from getting Dario i will save everything for anni :)
We celebrated the 4th anniversary of JP at the same time, we're only about 1 month behind them now. The developers will recognize global's true 4th anniversary from when we launched in late march and JP will celebrate it with us, we're about 1 month from that - we should see the return of FF13 as well as our fan voted Jeume unit.
A big factor for me could be how powerful my Dark is. I currently don't have a viable 70 cost dark unit, though, so Kitone could be a potential target for me depending on the banners.
That is what I was saying there at the end; how the unit fits into your account is a major part of the character evaluation, that frankly I cannot tell you without seeing it for myself.
It was news to me that Kitone was also getting the paid pack, super excited for that. Lucked out and got Lynx on the 300 ticket, now I wish I would have paid for the 120 Oelde last week
You read my mind here. I was wondering if only could afford one which one I should go with Before this I really wanted kitone. Dark and strike are such big strengths for me, while water is a weakness. Such a hard call
If you don't have a good Water box, I really can't imagine you getting a great value of Lynx right now and it would be maybe more of a future investment if you had some thoughts about any of those future potential bow units I talked about.
Anyone know if these two units will be on the standard pool, or if they will be occasionally available with crystal warriors? Both have a niche in my account but I never like the idea of pulling for 70 cost units.
Kit one's drip is cuter, and the dynamic pose helps that but shadiwlynx is such a great character. But Xiza was my first UR, my first 120 and they'll pair well together. Will they ever win, tho...
I'm not exactly sure which options are available to you in the new player banners - I would probably start with an Agility card that supports my main team though as my first choice, and after that I'd try and get an area resist card.
I don't think that is a difficulty of range units; the difficulty is do they have competitive survivability, utility and damage to make them worth using. For the most part the answer to that question has been no, or at least the answer has been they're more niche; however, I do believe they have at least addressed the survivability and utility arguments with Lynx.
I think both units have looked very underwhelming in practice from what I've seen on JP side compared to their respective kits on paper. I'l pull for Kitone only just because I like the character design.
Kitone for me is a little underwhelming, especially if you have the rest of the fist options; I dont think everyone has access to what Lynx needs to make her work right now, nor is Water or Bow in a top meta position, but I do believe the kit is good enough that the value is there and will probably age better over time.
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Just to clarify here - I don't think either of these 70 cost units are top meta picks, but both will be more niche play with increased value for Limited PVP events like CM or LGB. I think 6k paid for the unit and 200 shards is a nice value for people who regularly spend on the game, but I personally wouldn't advise 36-40k Free to pity either of these units, they're not worth that IMO. Anyway I hope this is helpful for some people that were trying to maybe pick between the 2 and take advantage of that bundle.
Perfectly timed music crescendo, building up to the final category; your video craftsmanship is stellar as always. Thank you, you and the other stellar creators keep me invested in the game.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video! I managed to pull both in these last couple of days. While not META defining, they are both fun to play with!
Yes they are! I've had fun with them too, congrats on pulling them!
I LOVED this format! I was really engaged the whole way through. Also just wanted to say I use your VC doc all the time. So helpful when considering what units to pull based on what I have/planning. Thank you JB!
Awesome! Thank you! Glad it's helpful for you!
Damn this music got me going
The main battle FF music Is from Distant Worlds The Journey of 100! The intro music is a cover of 'The Man with the Machine Gun' from FF8 - I linked it in the description.
i got Ashen Lynx for 7.5k free visiore.. i felt lucky and i was right!. Now im going to buy Kitone as i want them both as options for CMs. One thing to note about HP barrier over regular barriers.. ON HIT status effects dont land on HP barriers, i havent tried w debuffs, but i used status effects too much (to realize and test later) that even without resistances to a status or negative resists.... the status effects dont land until HP barrier are broken.. because Lynx HP barrier is physical status effects tied to physical attacks wont land until depleted (unless they come before dmg or are TP skills). Great content today Mr. JB79. a great comparison and analisis. Thanks for your hard work!
Great point, I didn't elaborate, but that is one of several reasons HP barriers are far superior to the old hit or turn based ones.
dang.. the production is so professional
Thank you!
Really amazing video. I’ve an awesome intro JB, you are getting real good.
Thank you 🥰
That intro goes hard
That banger intro track! I'm terrible at saving, so I'm broke from A2. So unless I can lucksack on discount pull, they both aren't happening.
Definitely not worth buying a $65 pack to buy a unit in my world.
Give me my rosaluna 😍
That's understandable, for people who regularly spend I think the unit + 200 shards for 6k paid is a nice value, but for people who don't spend as much I totally get it! I wouldn't invest a 36-40k free vis pity into either of these units.
This is a great comparison of the units on paper. I love the presentation and the metrics that are being compared. I agree with you that using these quantitative comparisons miss some of the nuance provided by their kits, ai, and supporting members. I think an accompanying AI test would help capture some of that.
Personally I'm a bit underwhelmed by the units. I was looking forward to them because I like the OG versions and play both fist and water. I would have liked them to have a 9 step, and/or been included in the permanent pool. Now I have to think hard about whether or not I pull them for limited guild battles.
This was a great resource!
Meta impact wise, I think they're a bit of a step down from some cost 70 units we received recently like Shalze, HLucio, and WRaph - those units though are frankly overpowered for their cost level, so it's a high bar to live up to. I still think they're both pretty strong for their cost and are solid units in the grand scheme of the game, but are both entirely skippable for most players.
Great video as always! It would be so nice to see detailed analysis of Elder VC awakening from you (or maybe together with ReadyPlayerWill) - maybe in a form of tierlist to set priorities (like which VC to awaken in first wave, in second etc.) Thanks in advance!
The cost to upgrade them is pretty small, just 175 vision shop currency for the tokens and 1m gil. If you're lacking in that currency I would just upgrade whatever main cards you use first. They gave us enough to upgrade like 6 or 8 of them right off the bat.
@@JB79 well, it's hard to disagree, but we have little over 100 non-limited VC and I don't think that 175 ur vision medals is a low price, esp for F2P. Anyway, I thought it was a relevant idea for the content
@@AntonLazarev probably something we'll end up discussing in the Leonis Report; thanks for the suggestion.
Hey @JB79 can i ask , unreleated to this video, the 4th anni was on jp like 3 months ago i think, when do you think it will come to global ? I'm still very new and asides from getting Dario i will save everything for anni :)
We celebrated the 4th anniversary of JP at the same time, we're only about 1 month behind them now. The developers will recognize global's true 4th anniversary from when we launched in late march and JP will celebrate it with us, we're about 1 month from that - we should see the return of FF13 as well as our fan voted Jeume unit.
🔥🔥🔥 I LIKE THIS VIDEO A LOT !!!
Thank you! Hope it helped you make a decision on them if you were wanting to go for either of them!
A big factor for me could be how powerful my Dark is. I currently don't have a viable 70 cost dark unit, though, so Kitone could be a potential target for me depending on the banners.
That is what I was saying there at the end; how the unit fits into your account is a major part of the character evaluation, that frankly I cannot tell you without seeing it for myself.
I finally found your channel! I love when you're on the Leonis report on Will's channel. Smash or pass, am I right? Lol
Thanks for stopping by, welcome to the channel!
It was news to me that Kitone was also getting the paid pack, super excited for that. Lucked out and got Lynx on the 300 ticket, now I wish I would have paid for the 120 Oelde last week
Great Luck, congrats!
You read my mind here. I was wondering if only could afford one which one I should go with
Before this I really wanted kitone. Dark and strike are such big strengths for me, while water is a weakness. Such a hard call
If you don't have a good Water box, I really can't imagine you getting a great value of Lynx right now and it would be maybe more of a future investment if you had some thoughts about any of those future potential bow units I talked about.
Anyone know if these two units will be on the standard pool, or if they will be occasionally available with crystal warriors? Both have a niche in my account but I never like the idea of pulling for 70 cost units.
Neither will be added to the standard pool. The Crystal Warriors banners do return periodically though.
Tys JB…awmesome video
Thanks for watching!
thinking of pulling for kitone just for her tmr
8 AGI TMR is very tempting.
Kit one's drip is cuter, and the dynamic pose helps that but shadiwlynx is such a great character. But Xiza was my first UR, my first 120 and they'll pair well together. Will they ever win, tho...
Love both of these characters hard to choose between them aesthetically, I really like Kitones more modern more mature look though.
@@JB79 right? Kinda wish that was her base skin. Shadowlynx *is* bae, tho
As a new player Wich vision card should I get from the ur vision card
I'm not exactly sure which options are available to you in the new player banners - I would probably start with an Agility card that supports my main team though as my first choice, and after that I'd try and get an area resist card.
You really went out of your way to make Lynx good.
And how exactly did I do that?
The disadvanatage is she is range, difficult to chain with your other units.
I don't think that is a difficulty of range units; the difficulty is do they have competitive survivability, utility and damage to make them worth using. For the most part the answer to that question has been no, or at least the answer has been they're more niche; however, I do believe they have at least addressed the survivability and utility arguments with Lynx.
I think both units have looked very underwhelming in practice from what I've seen on JP side compared to their respective kits on paper. I'l pull for Kitone only just because I like the character design.
Kitone for me is a little underwhelming, especially if you have the rest of the fist options; I dont think everyone has access to what Lynx needs to make her work right now, nor is Water or Bow in a top meta position, but I do believe the kit is good enough that the value is there and will probably age better over time.
@@JB79 Oh please JB! You know you are pulling Kitone, if only for that TMR, lol. So am I!
@@cedj4504 💯
In the end up water is still weak ...
That is perception, not reality. Water is actually very strong as an element.
my opinion range uint is trash + water we all know it that worst element in game and never have been in meta spot in global
We had about a week in the meta spotlight, back when Astrius, Amnelis, and Celes were new. XD
A2 in water teams also slap. Like seriously, when has the meta ever shifted far beyond Dark and Light comps? Maybe Bradley that one time lol
I really couldn't disagree more about water; Glaci/Oelde/Faris is one of the best teams in the game right now.
Dead wrong on water, but to each their own
The unit wont be meta, but is certainly not trash. Water is EASILY playable and strong, if not meta.